Hopes, Guesses & Prognostications for the 2012 NFL Schedule

Hopes, Guesses & Prognostications for the 2012 NFL Schedule

Note: Former Bears tight end (and blog favorite) Desmond Clark has let me know he disagrees quite strongly with my take on the Matt Forte contract situation. I have offered him a chance to pen a rebuttal and he has accepted. As soon as I receive that I will post it here.

There are two major NFL events in April. The draft is the centerpiece. It receives four days of live television coverage across three networks and, as the industry it has become, employs thousands upon thousands of human beings. Fans begin debating who their teams will select in the first round of the coming draft literally ten seconds after they are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention (and sometimes sooner).

The announcement of the coming year's schedule involves four or five guys in an office in midtown Manhattan. Ten or twelve gallons of coffee. A pack of Marlboro reds the fellas have to lean out the window to smoke. The programming heads of CBS, Fox, NBC and ESPN on the speakerphone. It is my favorite day of the off-season. And its not close. This is where we find out what our primetime football is going to be for the entire year. What our Thanksgiving games will be. When the Bears will meet the Packers, Lions and Vikings. On a personal level this is when I decide the dates of my annual in-season Chicago voyage. It is Christmas for me, except I like it a lot more.

The schedule is usually released around the second Tuesday in April. Here are some thoughts on what I'm expecting. I've never attempted to guess the schedule before. I'm interested to see how I do.

  • We know the Giants will host the Cowboys on the opening Wednesday night. Some reports have the first Sunday night matchup being Peyton's Broncos hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers. It almost makes too much sense.
  • NBC airs the Thanksgiving night game this year so the league will try to hand them a sure thing. My guess? Peyton's Broncos at Foxboro to meet Brady and Belichick.
  • If you're wondering if the Bears will play on Thanksgiving, here is what you need to consider: will the league want to send Houston to Detroit on their biggest afternoon of the regular season? If they don't, then it'll be an AFC team going to Dallas to meet the CBS requirement (and Pittsburgh is an option). Imagine this Thanksgiving lineup. Bears at Lions. Steelers at Cowboys. Peyton at Brady.
  • The Jets travel to Jacksonville. Tebow goes home. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't see how the league does not make this a Monday Night Football game and allow ESPN to fawn all over Tebus of Nazareth for their forty day and forty night pregame show. (This immediately becomes the most unwatchable three hours of TV all year.)
  • My prediction. Bears close season at home against the Lions and open on the road against either the Packers or Vikings.
  • With the Thursday night games starting in Week 2, the league needs to be fair. You can't ask any of the teams playing Sunday to take their first big hits of the calendar year and travel for a midweek game. The Giants will have a week of rest at that point. Send them to Baltimore or Cincinnati. Everyone's happy.
  • Bears total primetime games will be hurt by their schedule. They have the two least sexy divisions in the league on their schedule: AFC South and NFC West. I'm guessing two Sunday nighters (Packers, Cowboys), one Monday nighter (Niners) and a Thursday nighter (Colts).
  • The Saints are slated to play the Giants in Jersey. I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying a Bill Parcells-led Saints team at the Meadowlands will be a guaranteed Sunday night affair and might actually be a contender for the Thanksgiving night slot.
  • Weird prediction. The league rewards the Buffalo Bills' signing of Mario Williams by allowing them to open at home on Monday night against the New York Jets.

I have got a million more but I won't bore you. Here's a question for you to ponder, both in a personal and football context. Do you want the Bears to play on Thanksgiving? Why or why not?

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  • You go Dez!

    I lived in Denver when Dez was there, and they loved him there too. He's the Emery Moorehead of this generation.

  • Of course I want them to play on Thanksgiving. I'd want them to play every holiday of the year if the schedule allowed it. Besides if they play on Thanksgiving, I don't have to scramble to find a seat at a sports bar if the Skins or Giants are playing at the same time.

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    In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You mean you don't have the NFL Package on Direct TV...?
    Couldn't live without it. It was a requirement when I built my house, that the builder had to guarantee Direct TV would work. (southern exposure no trees that would grow to block for 50 years.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Direct TV can fuck themselves. Went round and round and round with them for two months trying to get an install team out.
    They suck donkey dick.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP, now that you're PS3ed... I would highly recommend the PS3 package. You can pay quarterly (just in case cutty tries to chase down another INT early in the year), and besides the opening weekend debacle, the streaming was perfect all year.

    And the main channel continuously shows highlights and coverage of all the other games in rotation. It was well worth it when we were playing maings. And I only interfaced with PlayStation not the tools at DTV. Just a thought.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, I'm pondering it. If the quality was consistently good, I'm sorely tempted to take the plunge. Didn't they have opening weekend problems last year (not that a software guy should be bitching about release day glitches)?

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    I didn't know there was a PS3 option. Definitely need to get the beloved on the home screen.

    65 inch plasma for me. Bears, Bulls, Hawks... All year long.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Favorite actor Dennehy. Favorite beer O'Douls.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hahahahahahahahah...gonna go watch that video again.

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    In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Never had a problem with DTV. My install went fine. But I've heard that is a crap shoot. All local contractors. Some are good, some aren't.

    Not to rub salt in the wound, but the actual Sunday NFL Ticket, with the bells and whistles is amazing. It's almost better when the Bears have a national game (night game, not the national Sunday game), because I can watch redzone, or pick a couple of games to watch.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    MBP, opening weekend was a fucking mess. The whole thing froze up for the entire weekend and only repeated a 5 minute segment over and over. I was so fucking pissed I can't tell you... but after that, everything was crystal clear for the rest of the year.

    Well worth the $84/quarter man.

    Mike, you can choose any game to watch, but their main, 'home' screen is like a sports center report but they cut to show segments of other games going on that are in the redzone. It's good stuff.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Yeah, that is the problem with them - and their home office could care less if the local service is terrible. They just want you off the phone. Spent over a dozen hours on the phone with various people, installers, CSRs, etc...and no dice.
    Stood me up on several install dates too. Luckily I work from home or I would have REALLY gone ballistic. At the end, I said fuck it and switched to FIOS.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    when I called them on opening weekend, 3 different support/sales dudes didn't even know they did a deal with EA and were offering ST streaming through the PS.

    I just hung up on the third guy mid-sentence. It was ridiculous.

    It always really shocks me how some of these huge companies succeed despite themselves. They are all terrible.

  • I'm happy if Tannehill gets pushed Top 10. Pondermania.

    Pushes skill positions down the board into Bear hands.

    I don't think Tannehill is 1st round talent either.


  • QoTD:

    Do you think Dennis Rodman would pay child support if he won the lottery?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If his children happened to be blackjack dealers at the high roller tables in Vegas, then yes.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hee hee.... hee hee

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I will be naming my first born "Mega" or "Lotto" if I win...

    That's a promise.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    You have the same odds of being mauled by a polarbear and a regular bear in the same day.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So you're saying there's a chance!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    HAHAHAHAHAHA... Brilliant!


  • I imagine I will find myself agreeing with Dez.

  • Dave, I think you and canada would make a wonderful new agent tandem for forte once he wakes up from his dream and shitcans his buffoon of a current agent (who's trying to ruin his name and career for a %).

    Dezzy! one of my all-time favorite bears... who got the shaft. Timing is everything unfortunately; Dez should have been a big part of the O the last two seasons.

    And finally (in this morning's smorgasbord of thoughts):

    Seeing dave duerson’s fucking mind on a tray yesterday got me thinking…

    We never really said anything about it when it happened, but I think Barber has CTE and I think he knows it.

    I also think that’s why he was making bad decisions at the end of the year and I think that’s why he’s walking away out of the blue from potential millions next year. In my estimation, the guy was an excellent back-up RB last year and the two bonehead plays don’t define his bears tenure for me… although they will unfortunately for most.

    The way he played the game makes me very confident there’s something going on health/mentally with him. Anyway, I thought he was a damn good back and I wish him the best… and hope he doesn’t have CTE.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Finally watched the video of Duerson's brain autopsy. Yikes.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeah. terrible. Gave me the willies and made me really sad. Fuck man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dave and I would get a deal done!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I thought about the same thing myself re: Barber retiring. His brutal style of running was admirabe, but you knew it was going to shorten his NFL career, I just hope it dent affect him later in life. Because CTE is a degenerative disease, many of the symptoms don't show up until later in life even if the injuries occurred in high school, college or earlier in life.

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    I don't know what to do with CTE. I love football. My son has been a very good youth football player and is heading to HS next year. CTE challenges everything. I coach youth football. My club and league has been following all of the protocols for concussion symptoms and return to play rules. But coaches aren't Doctors.

    I come to terms with it, by saying it impacts only a small percentage of athletes, who have played on in to the NFL and that little kids don't hit hard enough to cause issues.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Do a little more research on CTE and you'll find it's not about 1 or 2 hard hits. It's about CHRONIC trauma to the brain over a long period of time.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Maybe you could help them by giving everybody pads that are too small for them. Small shoulder pads, give the lineman QB pads, give the QB no pads at all.

    Sounds crazy, but everyone will pull up and not hit as hard. Or, if they do, broken ribs heal. Broken heads do not.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    Unfortunately Shady is right. Like I said, I don't know what to do with CTE. The research is not thorough. It's only based on dead brains. So the sample is skewed. What about the brains of players that live long, healthy productive lives without any of the outward signs of CTE. That is a much bigger set.

    Proper tackling technique, staying alert on the field, calling anything that remotely resembles a concussion a concussion, getting clearance to return to practice/games etc.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    that's a good start that is eons ahead of the way things were done when I was playing mike.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Sure is. Water was for sissy's.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    A frightening concept, that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I've thought about that GP, and proposed it to people. Does not engender much of a response.

    One thing that would be interesting is to see whether there are much in the way of CTE symptoms among professional soccer players. They get their heads knocked around a bit too - but is repeated headers (and banging skulls with other players when trying to head the ball) sufficent, or is bigger trauma needed?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Go back to the leather helmets!

    Is there some study as to which sports incur the most concussions?

    I know Goodell likes to say Soccer gets their fair share too, but that might just be PR.

    My guess

    1) Boxing (MMA?)
    2) Football
    3) Hockey
    4) Rugby (?)
    5) Soccer

  • I live in Brussels, Belgium, so of course i do NOT want them to play thanksgiving, like i also always hope they don't play night games. (both situations --> game from 2AM til 5.30 AM with a work day to follow.

    Hooray for noon games !

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    I love your beer (and bruge was amazing), but you're still a bunch of savages!


  • A tip of the hat to the class act known as Desmond Clark.

  • From Shefter....

    Eagles announced LT Jason Peters ruptured his Achilles tendon Tuesday, March 27, while training in Texas. Surgery scheduled for Tuesday.

    WOW!!! Talk about a huuuuge loss. Man, tht sucks, you know... for them.

  • LT Jason Peters tearing his achilles could affect the Bears in a few ways.

    1) Eagles can target either Bell or McNeil now that they're a bit more desperate.

    2) Eagles can now move LT to the #1 priority in the draft ahead of LB and DT/DE.

    Considering that Vick gets hurt easily, I can understand the latter. That could mean that either LB Keuchly or DT Cox, who many had them drafting, might now be available for us at #19. Some also had them drafting WR Floyd to complement Jackson, so Floyd could theoretically fall too.

  • check my post below $, really interesting that peters was freaking undrafted! Amazing. Hope emery can pull a similar rabbit out of his hat.

  • All hail the Floyd....

  • Keuchly!!

  • Interesting: http://nfl.si.com/2012/03/30/what-do-all-pro-teams-tell-us-about-nfl-draft/?xid=cnnbin

    Someone should have sent this to angelo 10 years ago.

  • I hate the Detroit Lions and this is why...

    - Jim Shwartz. I hate his face. Plain and simple, I just can't stand that fucking smug look on it at all times. It would be worth the battery charge for punching him if I happened to see him on the street.

    - Suh. Cheap shotting piece of shit who's game went to hell last year. Pretty sure he's actually insane. Wouldn't surprise me if it came out that he is a child rapist.

    - Stafford. He looks like an overgrown lesbian. An athletic Chaz Bono if you will. I'm really rooting for 3rd Bears induced season ending injury this year. Fuck him. All of the pundits had him above Cuttler last year, and I don't think he's half the player. We'll see this year when we have our version of Megatron out there

    I would really like to play on Thanksgiving. So we can beat the shit out of these doucheynes in front of a national audience.

  • An athletic Chaz Bono if you will.

    If Sonny was a bit more athletic, he may have missed his George of the Jungle endgame moment.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Man, no quarter asked, no quarter given. But that's what I like about this site....

  • Coach I couldn't possibly agree more!!!!! When we pummeled those cocksuckers last year, that was the highlight of the season for me. How Stafford got away with throwing DJ around by the helmet is almost as big of a mystery as Harper spearing Earl and getting away with it (still!). After the Lions beat us last year and were acting like they were going to beat us for the next ten years, I knew we were going to smoke them the next time.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    It was time for big brother to put little brother in his place.

    Now we have to repay the Pack for beating us 4 times in a calendar year.

    This is the year to settle all debts! Pepp and Mercilus to hurt double douche Rodgers. Forte, Bell and Beast to pound those pussy Ds the Pack and Loins trot out there.

  • We love your rants 'stache.

  • Panthers traded running back Mike Goodson to the Oakland Raiders in exchange for offensive tackle Bruce Campbell.

  • How many god damn RBs do the Panthers have?

  • Shit... Every team needs a Bruce Campbell.

    Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Say hello to my boom stick! Who wants some?!

  • Fuck Jim Shwartz is face.

  • Steelers hosting Bills OT Demetrius Bell

  • My money is on the Steelers reeling him in. They were decimated by inj last year, and need to go younger.

    I just don't know if they got the cash for him.

  • #Bills free agent OT Demetrius Bell will visit the #Eagles, reports

  • Gee, I sure liked that guy:

    Between 1988 and 1993, average 88(!) tackles per season. As a defensive tackle. Crazy.

    One of the more underrated Bears IMO.

  • In reply to SC Dave:


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Me too. He was really funny too. He was perfect for the WWF.

  • No trip to Green Bay for me - just got pulled from that work trip to go to...

    West Virginia. And not Charleston either. Somewhere off the beaten path.

    If you guys don't hear from me in about a week, call the State Patrol.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    West Vagennee? What do they have besides black lung? lol

  • Even the town is scary.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    that is rather slippery of you, agent Starling...


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    dener neer ner neer ner neeer...

    you sure do got a purdy mouth boyah!

  • In reply to MB30SD:



  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Which reminds of that old WV joke about if you divorce your wife, is she still your sister....

  • 60M on CTE


  • BTW, that pic of Manning - I don't think anyone other than Frankenstein's monster has a forehead that massive. He might now even have the pegs in his neck....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Were you the one who posted the "manning face" team logos? Made me laugh out loud.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Not I but I wish I'd seen it.....

  • In reply to tobijohn:


  • In reply to Shady:

    Thanks, that IS funny....

  • First time poster gang. Been reading you guys a while. Good stuff. I had to jump in on the CTE stuff. My son plays too Big Mike. I also worry about the potential damage to him. That said, I will let him play. My gut tells me this problem mostly lies with collegiate level players and beyond. If not, it seems we would see disproportionate numers of 55 year old men with serious problems. Hell my doctor played on the O-line at Michigan. I don't doubt this problem is very real and serious. I just don't believe it has life altering effects on mediocre high school football players.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Welcome Johnny, nice to have you. I mentioned to MB during a MW3 ass kicking session that we should designate a day for long time readers first time posters to say hi and share their thoughts, but I digress.

    I dont have any kids, but assuming I did, I'm not sure I would let them play tackle football. Everything coming out of studies of CTE show that regardless of the skill level of the player, repeated trauma of the brain due to concussions and other actions that "bruise" the brain lead to this terrible degenerative disease. I understand current players in the NFL are highly compensated, and may feel they understand the risks, but if it were my kid- I'd give him a baseball glove and have a catch or shoot hoops in the driveway.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Oh my god... playing with doc right now and he... we... are getting LIT up! Jesus.

    Shady, get on this bitch man

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Read this

  • In reply to Shady:

    Thanks Shady. It has admittedly been a struggle and I may still pull the plug on football even though it would kill him. Unfortunately, you can't make a kid like baseball if he doesn't. I am watching closely and have gotten involved with the local youth program to educate parents.
    Just out of curiosity, do any of you know guys that played in their youth and are having CTE type problems now? I don't, and that is what I keep coming back to. It seems like the problem would be painfully obvious among middle aged men that played the game through High School if the real damage were done then.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the athletes we talk about re CTE were active in sports growing up. I also wouldn't be surprised if suffering head injuries at a young age when the brain is still developing makes a person more likely to suffer from CTE or a similar disease.

  • In reply to Shady:

    From what I'm reading, you're right - although a kid who becomes susceptible to concussions early on may be particularly unlikely to have a lengthy career in pro sports...or the connection may be so tenuous if something like CTE develops late in life that a link to an early adolescence (or earlier) brain trauma isn't made.
    Scary, scary stuff.

  • In reply to Johnnywad:

    Documentary on the dangers of high school football, including a couple high profile heat stroke cases (in one the player eventually died), as well as CTE and how even non-concussion hits are damaging.


  • As of today, #Bengals have most remaining cap room with $20.5 million, #Jaguars have second most with $20.2 million, reports PFT.

  • Bears: $3.5 million left


  • Well, we're not gonna buy much with that. How can we even afford to sign our draft picks with $3.5M?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Let's just say the answer to that is tweeting himself into a trade ..... people with the Forte fixation don't seem to realise this is a business and we are out of cash. People that would rather starve to death rather than sell the family silver.

  • Right, the REST of us have a Forte fixation...Oh-kay.

  • We are not out of cash. We are running low on cap space.

    There is a huge difference.

  • That is cutting it real tight. Not sure if we can get Okoye with that in the tank. I'm not too worried about the future though.

    Ultimately, Cutler, Lach, Forte and Beast will be restructured and the 2014 cap increase will more than cover it.

    Forte's non-contract is becoming a bit of a handicapp for us this year though. It almost leads me to believe, despite their assurances, that the Bears may very well be quietly working a deal with the Browns, Pats or some other team who has mula and need at HB.

  • I know we're all Tebowed out, but how did you guys miss this? You maings are slacking!


  • Does faith count as a PED?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Haha. I just posted that cause whether you like it or not, Tebow is comedy gold. Like this comment,

    "Just wait until Sanchez injures his groin"


    "I though Wolverine healed himself"

  • *we

    meant 'whether we like it or not' not you specifically MBP. Should listen more to English teacher's advice 'never use the 2nd person!'

    Anyhow, in between the crazy rants, there's some pretty funny comments on that thread.

  • Interesting list of which teams are tracking which draft prospects.


    Here's the Bears list.

    *West Virginia linebacker Bruce Irvin (3/?).

    *Montana defensive back Trumaine Johnson (?/?).

    *Memphis guard Ronald Leary (3/?).

    Baylor receiver Kendall Wright (4/?).

    [Also could've sworn the Bears talked to both WR Hill and DE Mercilus.]

    Nice to see the Bears are listening to me and looking at CB Trumain Johnson. I wonder how many more visits, interviews, lunches go unreported, or if teams actually draft prospects without ever meeting them...

  • Really like Trumain Johnson. Im biased as im a big montana grizz fan since I once lived in Missoula. Now THAT is a football town. literally the WHOLE town shows up. Beautiful stadium surrounded by mountains. Plus they have a college PLAYOFF. Perenial National Champ Favorites.

    Anyone think we take a chance at Dre Kirkpatrick from bama if he's there?

  • Lovie talked to Stephen Hill and took him out to dinner.

    At the draft we talked to Mercilus.

  • At the draft? Did I sleep through the month of April? WTF.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I haven't turn the time back on the Earth yet. My bad.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    had to bounce last night, wife pissed about something

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    That sounds familiar - no worries, but you did miss out on some awesome free-for-all matches.
    It was good to see ya on there.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    shocking, that's never happened to me before.

    Come play more often maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw... curiously enough, you (rage-)quite RIGHT after we almost bumped into each other in the cave and I got the better of the exchange.

    Coincidence? hmmmm.....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ha! you are correct, you bastard. She came down and made a comment, I looked over and you fucking dropped me in the cave. I proceeded to say, "a distracted soldier is a dead soldier"....

    and it was all over from there.

  • did he close the deal? Did he at least get a kiss goodnight and a promise for a follow up date?

  • Any of you guys read u on DE Chandler Jones? I think he'll be a beast. But then again I'm a little biased since we're both from 'Cuse! Honestly I think hell be great for theBears and was supposed to be drafted in the first round before his injury.......


    Her face isn't much to look at, but I would've loved to have at that when I was in high school...Hell, who I'm kiddin, I wouldn't kick her outta bed for eatin crackers now either...at least for a one nighter...

  • Curious what the 'electronic device' was that she used to force him to have sex with her? She hold a taser to his head while he went down on her or what??

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    A vibrator... she used it on herself infront of him and he simply couldn't resist after watching that.

    Hell, what 15 year old boy (or any single guy) could?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    true true

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I spent countless hours hoping the same thing would happen to me. I can't believe thes guys rat these ladies out. I woulda took it to the grave!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Ditto Murph!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The kid was already wired. She just turned him on:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aye caramba ...

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    I believe that means using email, text or some other electronic communication device. In this case, there appears to have been a website involved.

  • http://www.aboutads.info/choices/

    posting this again for you guys. If you want to clean your browser of companies stalking you for their adds, go to the page above and it will let you opt out of all those companies ad programs. Fuckers.

  • Leaf has that vaguely meth look to his skin now


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Don't know about the skin but he's got that look in his eyes like he's dead inside.

  • Watched some tape on Mercilus. I do not want the Bears picking him. Wootton 2.0 mang. Don't fucking do it. I'd rather see an OL pick or another DE. Let Cory have one more shot. They have that same stiff playing style.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I thought about that for awhile.

    They play similar but Mercilus reminds me of JPP. I don't see much of Wootton and Mercilus similarites but there is a big difference between them.

    Wootton was still recovering from his injury in college when we drafted him. Mercilus is healthy. We might never see what Wootton could have been because of that injury but they both could be great if they live up to their potential.

    Last year a player that played in a small college was best suited for a 3-4 and was considered a risk since he didn't play against any big schools. He dominated in a 4-3 and while playing for a team that had a very weak offense. Von Miller.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Phil is looking for men amongst men Waffle. I thinking he's already done his homework and can probably tell you every time Mercilus shat himself.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Yeah, I've gone off him too Waffle. Looking through the 'top' DEs, Ingram is the only guy I'd like to see lining up opposite Pep, although Perry doesn't look terrible. I trust Emery will go BPA and if that means CB, then so be it. A trade down might be the best solution combined with trading our lower picks for a higher one - for some reason I trust Emery and his scouts to get us some quality starters moving forward. It's a weird feeling being fully behind your front office.

  • If they did trade Forte ... IF ... then a trade down could leave us with three second round picks and we could use one of those to pick up Lamar Miller (or maybe Doug Martin), still leaving us two decent picks.

  • The worst of this is it would not surprise me the slightest bit should it prove to be true:

    And it certainly would help the cause of those that wish to disarm the American populace.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Not sure I get your point Dave. Who's trying to disarm the American populace? I haven't heard any politicians trying to make hay about gun control. It seems like a dead issue nationally.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Agreed - I'm pretty liberal and if anything, gun laws nationally have become extremely loose. Conceal carry laws are everywhere now. So this nutty "disarm the American populace" stuff...really?
    Seen any black copters lately?

  • Okay, I'm going to give what I consider a likely scenario where I would be okay with trading Forte.

    1) This would require Forte to be unwilling to sign a contract at an affordable number and the writing on the wall that he leaves Chicago in 2013.

    2) This would require Matt Khalil to be a truly special LT prospect. And it would require Emery to see a RB later in the draft that can fill out a rotation with Bush and Bell.

    3) I would be willing to trade Forte to the Browns in exchange for a first round pick swap and an extra pick, probably either this year's fourth or maybe next year's third.

    The Browns get Forte instead of Richardson, but they're happy because they still have two unused first round picks. That could give them better position to get a QB without overspending, or else just some other quality to combine with McCoy and Forte.

    We're happy because we get back the 2013 pick we spent to get Marshall or else a 2012 equivalent value; we free up cap space, and we're comfortable taking someone like Doug Martin with a high pick. Most important, we get a 10 year starting left tackle (remember, trade would be contingent on Minny taking Claiborne or someone else).

    I have a feeling Minny passing on Khalil is the least likely piece of this scenario that will happen, but that's where I would draw the line. I'd consider trading for Reiff, but not up to #4, and not without getting more value for the pick. Maybe trade with Jacksonville or Carolina and try to get a third plus a 2013 third?

  • One other comment on trades... I would love if there was some way to get a 2013 first from either Jacksonville or Miami. Wonder what either of them would take...

  • This is my rant for all of you grandparents and parents.

    Stay fucking healthy all throughout your life. I know that is almost impossible but you don't need alcohol or nicotine and eating just a tiny bit better will not kill you.

    I have watched my grandmother slowly forget me over time because of all the mini-strokes she has had in the last year. She started smoking at age 14 and never stopped till a few months ago. She didn't get cancer but the smoking increased the chance of strokes. One year ago my grandmother knew who I was, saw the ring I got my fiance, and knew my birthday. Now, she just knows that I am related to her and lives in a nursery home. She cries to me begging me to take her back home but she can't take care of herself anymore.

    I have watched my grandfather slowly become weaker everyday. This guy was a fucking ox. The arms , the chest, and the greatest guy on the fucking planet to me. He never ate healthy, when he was young he put his body through torture by drinking and partying. When I was born, yes little ole me, he quit smoking and drinking to raise me. He came over to my house today, he is skinny now, face shrunken in, and weak. It hurts each day knowing that he doesn't have that much more to go on but is still hanging in there.

    My whole rant is this. I am okay with drinking every now and then. I understand that some diseases you can't protect yourself from. I am not saying eat a salad every day.

    I am saying, if you don't think it won't catch up to you, it will. If you don't think your children or grandchildren will not notice, they will. If you don't give a shit about your life then please care about your future kids that will have to go through this crap.

  • Totally agree Artoo. May I also add.......LIFT WITH THE LEGS!!!! Just had my 5th back surgery in 9 months on Friday. Should be the last. Im only 33 years old. Should of listened to my late father when he said to "work smart not hard". 15+ years as a mechanic/welder/fabricator isn't what he had in mind. I'm paying the price now. So please I know how rushed we all get. But it only takes one mistake to put you on an operators table.

  • ... and don't forget to wear sunscreen.

    Well said, Artoo. I can't think of a more wide-rangingly destructive drug than alcohol. To witness people after a certain hour in a social setting is like walking amongst the dead, and it's frightening to think that it's deemed normal. My own faculties have been irretrievably damaged and I stopped drinking when I was 36.

    My uncle was a doctor (R.I.P.), and whenever he saw me he'd ask me if I was still smoking. I'd say no and then he'd shrug and say "watch the salt, that'll put you in a box a lot quicker."

    Easy on the salt.

  • Wait, whoa ...dude ... A RING ??!! See with all the multiple concussions and drinking and Class As, I'd forgotten about that. Man, step away from the ring. Not until you're into your thirties. Smell the flowers a little. I'm sure she's a great girl and everything, but you will feel differently in ten years. Finish school and leave America for a year, see some of those lovely exotic flowers ... and then fuck those flowers.

  • How do you forget? We are family and we talk everyday!

    Time will tell mate.

  • Jesus said it's not what goes into your mouth that defiles a man but what come's out of it. What good is it to preserve your body that will eventually fade and pass away without taking great care to protect your soul. That's my 2 cents on the matter.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Are you one of those people who believe in the idea that if your child has a broken arm, you just pray about it and let God handle it?

    I was always taught your body is a temple thus, you have to take care of it.

  • No Artoo I'm not one of those. Your response was not the one I expected though because I didn't intend to offend. Sorry if you saw any on what I said. I was just speaking to the other side of what you said. The scripture's also liken's the body to a spring and poses the question, can a pure well bring forth bitter water? Hence, spiritually speaking, while taking care of one's body a person can totally miss the boat on taking care of one's soul. Not so unreasonable is it?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    It makes more sense that way then the first post.

    I assumed that you were implying that we can't prevent some of these diseases or problems.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'm was going to make a joke about it but they are true words, spiritual or not. You can be in great shape but be a raging asshole. And vice versa. But I'd rather not be a raging asshole, aside from posts to this comment board.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I can be in raging shape and a great asshole?


  • Hey, it's your asshole.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Cut me some slack guys, Easter's coming up and you gotta let me slip in the Good Word once in a while.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That's what I tell my wife...


    Uh, no, sincerely, I generally agree with the sentiment.

  • Where did this myth that Garza was a good center come from? Dead last in the NFL according to BR.


    Rebuttals? Bueller?

    Profootballfocus.com have him at 26.

    Angelo's last kick to the Bears' testicles was failing to throw another 500K at Olin. And before anyone says he was washed up, depending on which site you go to, the Saints' line was ranked anywhere from 2nd to 4th best in the league last season. Hardly possible with a crippled center now, is it?

    Garza was a patch-up, a temporary measure to alleviate the Angelo botchery with Kreutz. He's fit to play RG or backup RG, but we need to be looking at Konz really closely. The knock against him was his low bench rep count at the combine, but we've all had bad days at the gym. Drafting him and putting Garza back at RG allows the lineup : GC, CW, PK, RG, LL. Now that's a line you can certainly run behind, and you don't have the liability of Webb on pass plays.

    We could also likely trade down and still get Konz plus a DE, or Lamar if they deal Forte.

    If we're not drafting Urlacher's heir this year - and there doesn't appear to be one - then it's got to be replacing Olin, because Garza is not the guy.

  • You do realize that Kreutz only played in 4 games last year, right Irish?


    But, sure, I'm sure his presence on the retired list had everything to do with the Saints OL success and not guys like Nicks and Evans, etc.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Not to mention that offensive line is probably THE most difficult subgroup of individual positions in football to rank using statistical analysis.
    But go ahead, tell me why Garza was terrible last year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I wasn't analysing Garza in-depth last year, I don't have the time, it's not my job. Did you actually read the BR brief on Garza or are you just jumping on the comment because it was mine?

    People have their favorite players and defend them in spite of actual analysis. You don't suddenly start playing center in the NFL and expect to be good. Our line was worst or next to worst in the NFL the last two years. The line starts with the guy in the middle. Kreutz had seen his best days, it's true, but so has Garza, and they were at the guard position. How many seasons go by without thinking of drafting an actual center?

  • No, I'm jumping on it because you a) attacked Angelo over not overpaying for a washed-up Center, and b) used the Saints ranking to justify why Olin wasn't washed up.
    You could only do that if you didn't even know that Olin WAS washed up last year, only played in 4 games, and had zippo to do with the Saints success last year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Actually, I'm saying we need to draft a center, Mike. Kreutz is an afterthought. Where we draft him is the question. Do we wait until Garza retires before we draft a center? The guy needs to be groomed, he needs to be on the roster BEFORE Garza retires. People are hung up on LT because of Webb's play. Thing is, Gabe Carimi can play LT so he probably will. I don't know what Edwin is like at center, but Spencer was one of the worst in the NFL on any list you see. Now if you have your future center on the roster - not just some guard filling in at a push - then that guy serves as your solid backup, somebody you can have confidence in.

    Hilgenberg was undrafted, Kreutz wasn't a first rounder, but Nick Mangold was a 1st, so was Alex Mack , so was Maurkice Pouncey. Ryan Kalil and Andre Gurode were second rounders, Birk, Wells, were 5th/6th, and Jeff Saturday was undrafted, so it is somewhat of a crapshoot. But if we did draft a tackle in the first, do we want that guy protecting Jay's blind-side this year? No. And we don't want Webb there either so I don't see we have much of a choice in making Carimi the LT.

    Then again, we badly need a DE and a LB, so I'm glad it's Emery with the headache.

  • It is categorically a truth in the NFL that you can fill interior line positions easier than the Tackles - and the same guy you referenced earlier (and yes, I read his analysis of Garza) made the point that if you want a franchise tackle, you're going to pay through the draft or FA to get one. They don't come in later rounds more than once a blue moon. That doesn't mean you can't find someone that can start there and be serviceable. No one - no one drafts Pro Bowlers at every position. You do what you can with what's there and play to the strengths of your existing personnel.
    Same with defensive ends.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Of course we don't wait until after Garza retires to draft a Center, if we do indeed go the draft route at all...but your initial post posed the question as if we got screwed by having Garza at center rather than Kreutz.
    And after watching Kreutz get whipped pretty on a regular basis in his final years, that's not the case. Garza was an improvement, and our run blocking was much better because of it. Kreutz couldn't move anymore.
    I'd be perfectly happy to take a low-round pick on Center, this year or next, or to sign away a promising young one from someone else this year or next. But positing it as a position of urgency when we are weakest at LT on the O-line and have pressing needs at WR, LB, DE, DT, and even, I daresay, at CB...I just don't agree with that. And for what it counts, Mike Pouncey was a mid-first round pick (15) last year.
    Where did he rank according to PFF in pass-block efficiency?
    PFF also ranked our line as dead last in run-blocking in spite of the fact that we finished 9th in rushing with a journeyman backup and our evidently marginal Pro-Bowl running back.
    either PFF's rankings are gibberish,
    Matt Forte is really, really good,
    or our O-line is better than advertised.

  • And that "grading" was done by a guy that had the Bears drafting a TE in the first round this year. So, you'll pardon me if I take his thoughts with a grain of salt.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Absolutely irrelevant. Did you read the analysis? I don't have to knock Garza, the people whose job it is have already done that. So I turn your question back to you, why is Garza so good ?

  • Because my eyes tell me that he is a much, much more mobile Center than Kreutz was and because it was his first year as a full-time starter at the position.
    And because we didn't self-destruct on the interior of the line like several people thought we would just because Kreutz left.
    Turns out Angelo was right to let him go and maybe should have done it a year or two earlier.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ^ This.

    Kreutz had become a liability, and was playing on reputation for more than a couple of years. While I don't really have any idea of the truth of it, there was also the notion that the offensive could never become Jay's with Olin on the team. And you cannot call a guy a franchise QB if he is not THE MAN on the offensive side of the ball.

  • Your site there? Pro Football Focus? Yeah, they gave the Vikings the 7th best OL ranking in the league - in spite of the fact they gave up the FIFTH MOST SACKS IN THE LEAGUE, and I think if you watched them the last couple of years, their OL was a wet paper sack. Their rushing numbers are skewed because they have Purple Jesus in the backfield and two scrambling QBs that were running for their lives most of the season.

    That made so little sense that a VIKINGS blogger called them out on what gibberish it was.

  • I'm anything but an offensive line apologist, but Garza was without a doubt our best lineman last season - which obviously isn't saying a whole lot. Before last season, I had serious doubts about his transition from G to C in replacing Kreutz, but there is absolutely no question, outside of signing a top tier FA, moving Garza to C was the right move.

    P.S. Bleacher Report is never again to be used as a reliable source of rankings or analysis.

  • Quick - tell me what round Olin was drafted in. So we need to trade Forte, trade down draft spots, and then blow our first (or giving you the benefit of the doubt, our second) on a Center.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Fine. We'll keep playing guards as centers, tackles as guards and then maybe give Urlacher a shot at playing QB.

  • Sounds about as reasonable as your approach: piss away a first rounder in the same season that we trade away a Pro Bowl running back so that we can draft a backup Center.


  • Yikes! Rabbit, go easy on thelad. Holy cow... that west veerginya trip is really getting you saucy.

    For the record, I do agree with Irish 100%... it's just that this year can't be the year. Garza will just have to do... LT, DB, and lb are just too critical and need to be filled with high picks this year. Emery simply can't fix 11 years of abject buffoonery in one off-season.

    Hopefully over the next three years emery crafts a totally new and young bad-ass online, gets us a new peanut, mike brown, briggsy and lach. That's all... not too much to ask for right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can you imagine ten years of Emery? I wonder what that would have looked like. Damn.

  • I'm not ready to give him the Congressional Medal of Honor just yet irish, but he's off to a decent start, and we haven't even seen his draft yet. I really really hope he dazzles us come april. If the oline doesn't get a could nice upgrades by the time the 3rd or 4th game rolls around (hopefully before that), I am going to be disappointed.

    IFF he does turn out to be the bad ass we all think he can, let's just hope we're all around to see the next 10 years of what he can do.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "If" is about right; so far, Emery has merely not been stupid. Despite all the hullabaloo, Marshall is an unknown quantity for us. Believe me, I sure hope I have to acknowledge early in the season (and ideally even moreso at the end) what a great pick-up Brandon was, but right now he has as many catches for the Bears as I do.

    Two things would kick him right back in the Jerry camp, and that would be failing to address the offensive line and thinking the Michael Bush means we don't need Matt Forte. In fact, that would make him look *so much* like Angelo.

  • I get where MBP is coming from.

    I get where Irish is coming from.

    We have to meet in the middle road. I can't help but think if we needed someone, Emery would have went out and got them...or will in the draft.

  • They might actually like a guy in the sixth round to play center, I'd be cool with that too if Tice/Emery want someone. It's really DE and LB that worry me. I'm not doing the drafting, thankfully, I'll trust the boys. On offense I think we look good to go already. Defense not so much, but if we're controlling the ball and scoring points on O, and play well-enough on D .. .who cares?

  • All right, I want to get a better LB next to Urlacher but Roach will do.

    The main reason our defense will decline dramatically is if we do not get a compliment or someone who can play like Peppers on the other side.

    Pass rush is everything in Cover Two. IT will never work without it.

  • Oh, and you missed some fun battles last night.. Johnny and DOC! Showed up to play with shady and me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Just so you know, I have your gamer tag in my phone, don't be surprised when you get your ass kicked by some random person and then you get a message after the round saying...

    Da Bears.

  • get some.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Irish, you know I am on your side when it comes to trading Forte if the price is right, but you do see where MBP is coming from?

    Emery's drafting will be better than Angelo's. No doubt but Emery is not going to draft a stud every round. I don't care how many number 1's you have. One or two is going to be a bust. It is rare an Andrew Luck comes in the draft but guess what? He can be a bust too.

    We all know the story of Manning and Leaf. The tape was identical and no one faulted either of them for choosing who they did. Some players are meant to play in the NFL and some are meant to work at Wendy's. That simple.

    The price has to be damn good to trade away Forte imo. He plays at a first round level but is really only worth maybe 2 second round picks and 2 thirds. If we do that then Emery has to nail a stud in each round or getting a first for next year to justify getting rid of Forte.

    Yes, Forte is old by running back standards and had two seasons where he was injured. That being said we will be lucky if he plays another four years. If we know that then every GM knows that. You are only going to get two or three tops out of Forte.

    If Emery doesn't trade Forte away and drafts a 3 or 4 studs out of 7 then next year lets get the guy more picks but right now I don't know how well he can do in the draft. I mean, even Belicheat messes up and I bet he cheats in the draft room too.

  • At this stage I hope they sign Forte, or at least make him play for us this year. He just doesn't seem to be that popular as a potential trade, no point in trading him for poor picks, although Lamar Williams would be a solid pickup to complement Bush. I do trust Emery to do the right thing, and I guess we can scrape by without drafting a center, but Brian has nobody to go in there for him and do a job - we saw what happened when Hattie Hillenmeyer tried to be our mike. We'll get no push and get eaten alive in the passing game if we don't get a legit opposite for Pep. We'll see.

  • Some players are meant to play in the NFL and some are meant to work at Wendy's. That simple.

    Jeff, we have a new quote for the back of this year's t-shirt.

  • Speaking of Forte, I'm still eagerly waiting Dez's rebuttal of Jeff's position. Am I supposed to believe Desmond Clark actually has a life and something other to do this weekend than respond? What makes him better than me anyhow?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    that's pretty unfair tobi... he played the game, he went through the contract talks, he's seen it from the inside... albeit, one side of the inside.

    Besides that fact that he's one of my favorite Bears not only for his play, but his attitude and leadership, it would be very interesting to hear a player's pov. That and there's no way emery's going to come on and give his.

    How could his POV not enhance the disucssion?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My post was tongue in cheek. Dez was one of my favorites as well. Hell, I'm all for the Bears bringing him back. I'll bet the time off would actually help. I wouldn't be suprised if he's just as good as he was when they quit using him (which I never understood as there didn't seem to be any drop-off in his skills or abilities)....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I knew your post was tongue-in-cheek, tobi. How come MB didn't? What makes me better than him?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Alright, alright! Nobody's better than anybody. We all put our pants on one leg at a time. It's the new world order that I will be initiating once I'm crowned King of the World....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    But until my coronation, I will continue to scoop litter boxes and make my own lunch (the latter is not dependent on the former).....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Sorry, but I am better. My Appalachian ancestors were English royalty. On the Illinois side, they were German military. So you see, superior genetics. We smoke and drink all day, yet we typically live to our late '90's.

    Pant's, ha ha, I'm not wearing any pants.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    My father's side of the family was Irish/Dutch/German that accomplished nothing particularly noteworthy (well, my father graduated from dental school so that's something). However, my maternal grandmother's people were the Qajars who ruled Iran for about two hundred years until the former Shah's father staged a military coup in 1925 and forced the last one to abdicate. The Qajar Dynasty was known for its corruption and ineptitude so yeah, I guess you are better but once I'm in the drivers seat, I promise to better the Qajars' rep. Crunch, I like your attitude so once that day comes, I'm going to be granting you a fiefdom or something similar...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    TobiJohn Khan Qajar... you're blocking my sunlight.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Given you don't wear pants, I'm guessing there were a few alliances with the Highlanders in that sang real of yours.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Nope. German English Welsh, one Frenchman and one American Indian. Typical mutt.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think that was the point of the sarcastic post. Tobi (jokingly) doesn't understand how Dez could have anything better to do this weekend than get his guest post written up.

    I think we're all looking forward to reading that. Who knows, maybe we can get him posting on here more often...

  • btw erik, my mom is going through the same thing as your grandma, not the same cause, but the same basic outcome. It’s terrible, and heart/gut wrenching. Plain and simple.

    The one thing I would add to your thoughts would be to live every fucking day like it's your last gents – because it could be. The heath stuff is a no brainer, but just as much, you HAVE to enjoy your lives as much as possible. The only thing that will be with you on your deathbed will be your experiences and the people/relationships that you've had/have.

    Turn in your corpse in well used and well-worn with travel, love, life, and experiences that have made you and the world better. Live for those who can’t anymore.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll second that. I've lost 2 brothers to accidents and 4 of my best friends (two to accidents and 2 to cancer). I don't have a living relative from the previous generation. It totally sucks but what can you do? Nobody lived their life to spite you. If they made bad choices, it's their life. Not to mention genetics plays as big of a part on your long-term health as anything. If you have good genetics you can get away with shit for decades. If you have bad genetics you can't get away with anything. It's a crap shoot.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    yep. wow, sorry canada, that's tough man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Most of it happened years ago. That's the thing, if you live long enough you outlive all your friends and relatives. My mom always told me that was the worst part about getting old.

    Really sorry to about your mom's dementia. An uncle and aunt (different families) had that. Really a hard thing to deal with. I was lucky with my parents. Both of them had major heart attacks and checked out quick. It's hard on the living but I'm pretty sure all of us would sign up for that one as long as we'd lived a long, healthy life.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Alzheimers, MB ? That's a tough one. Sorry mang.

  • dementia mate. fucking sucks, she was/is an amazing person. Thank you, appreciate it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One of my great-uncles went through that - was horrible for his wife as he became incredibly hostile and paranoid towards the end. Of course, it's probably pretty uniquely symptomatic per case...
    Hate to hear of anybody going through that - sorry, maing.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    thanks my man

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well said, MB.

    When my wife died from leukemia five+ years ago, I thought that of all things I should take out of it was to learn to *live* each day, and as many moments of those days as I can.

    Easier said than done.

    Not long after my wife's death, my mother wrote me a note that remains on my refrigerator. It says:

    "David, dear

    You know, hon, the older I get the more I realize how little we have to say about what life holds for us - how little influence we really have - how nearly everything is beyond our purview.

    Except... our relations with one another. We *can* do something there... we can try to make our dealings with one another as agreeable as possible - as understanding as possible - as loving as possible. *That* helps.

    Another lesson easier read than done. Thanks so much for trying, Mom.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    thanks for sharing dave... I have to go get that dirt out of my eyes now, excuse me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    dave, my deepest condolences btw my man. Jesus, I can't even imagine. So sorry you had to go through that.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I had to read Frankl's Man Search for Meaning for a class once. It's an interesting take on life and meaning.


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Good one Dave. That's really the only piece of advice I give younger people. Cherish your parents while they are alive. If you do, when they are gone you'll miss them but you won't feel guilty. Being a recovering Catholic, I have enough guilt without adding to the load.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Cherish all those you love while they are alive. As you know so well, Canada.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Moms rock .... cancer sucks .... and that's about the size of that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I can agree with that.

  • btw, I agree with Irish. tell her you'll meet her at soldier field for the december Packer game in 10 years, then go and get some... nad not just women. Get to europe, south america, asia... get out there man. you only go round once.

  • Did you guys see me on MW3 last night? 10 KILLS. A few assists. That's a new PR. By Far. Nitty's getting better. You motherfuckers better look out.

    Only semi agree with you, MB, on BF3. In many ways, it seems to be a superior game. But it's obviously much more technical and a bit confusing. For now, I'm having more fun on MW3 but BF3 is nice for a change-up.

  • Can't wait to play you again! I think BF3 is a much, much better looking game but didn't get a chance to play the multiplayer.

  • I'm down for a sesh Doc, either game maing. Have you finished the single player yet? The jet mission taking off from the super carrier was badass.

  • No Shady, no single player yet. I did attempt a takeoff with a jet on multiplayer but crashed and burned on the runway.

    As for time for gaming, well, it comes in spurts and rarely for long. I'll try to find some time again soon. Usually, when I can get on, it's past yours, rabbits and Johnny's bedtime.

  • I just got a ps3 and am looking to whoop some culo at Fifa 12. Cant say the same abt MW3 since im better at it in 360. Just in case any of you fellas want to try something else.......

  • Killzone 3 multiplayer is $15 on PSN.

    I am willing to play that with everyone. My PSN name is gpldan if you want to friend me.

    KZ3 moves a little "heavier" than other twitch shooters, and thus the move to aim is easier. I can play it pretty well with game controller. It has jet packs but no heavy vehicles. I have the Sony headphones with mic as well.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Tried it, didn't like it. What about Madden?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Madden is good. 13 won't be out until August, I think 13 will be a big overhaul of the 12 engine.

    12 had magic Linebackers. All of them could run and leap like Lack in his prime, and were gifted with pre-cognition like the pasty chicks in Minority Report. Slant-ins were nigh impossible.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    I hope they make it to where you can pass rush with Peppers like in Madden 11.

    Madden 12 has two things I hate.

    1. You cannot return with Hester (madden 11 I could return almost every time)

    2. Great players lose battles with crappy players. Ex. Peppers vs. LT for the Vikings, he gets dominated when I know Peppers doesn't.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was going to try that when/if I ever pick up a move controller "gun". But not in a rush with my growing addiction to MW3.

  • Well if anybody wants some KZ3, there are Mechs, Jetpacks, all kinds of grenade fun, I think more "fun" than MW3 or BF3.

  • http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index.ssf/2012/04/poe_might_not_be_as_good_as_sc.html

    Opinions, opinions..

  • I think mock drafts are pretty cool but generally wrong. The reason I do like the Sam Farmer one is because I broke down the article and just listed out the possible picks. The biggest thing to take from this is not who will be on the board by the time we pick but the fact that everyone on this list would make the Bears better. I now truly believe that whether we take a WR, DT, OG, CB, S, etc the guy that is selected will come in and will contribute immediately. Add that guy to an already SB contender Bears team if healthy along with Marshall and Bush and we are looking good. Emery, do your thing mang.

    QB Andrew Luck, Stanford
    QB Robert Griffin III, Baylor
    OT Matt Kalil, USC
    QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
    RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
    WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
    CB Morris Claiborne, LSU
    DT Dontari Poe, Memphis
    DE Quinton Coples, North Carolina
    OT Riley Reiff, Iowa
    DT Michael Brockers, LSU
    ILB Luke Kuechly, Boston College
    DE/OLB Melvin Ingram, South Carolina
    CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama
    DT Fletcher Cox, Mississippi State
    WR Michael Floyd, Notre Dame
    CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina
    TE Coby Fleener, Stanford
    OG David DeCastro, Stanford
    DE Whitney Mercilus, Illinois \
    OG Cordy Glenn, Georgia
    WR Kendall Wright, Baylor
    S Mark Barron, Alabama
    OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
    RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech
    WR Rueben Randle, LSU
    DE Nick Perry, USC
    OG Amini Silatolu, Midwestern State
    C Peter Konz, Wisconsin
    DT Devon Still, Penn State
    DT Kendall Reyes, Connecticut
    DT Jerel Worthy, Michigan State

  • Ah, crap.

    I broke da blog

  • Wow! I just read on Twitter that Brett Farve is gonna be a Cleveland Brown!


  • Stupid blog. Posts things out of sequence

  • Crunch said it before I could. Farve a Brown.

  • Really? I thought it was an April Fools joke.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    it was lol

  • My latest. Kendall Wright is starting to look like a really nice pick in the first. He and Bennett can alternate the flanker and slot positions with Marshall primarily playing the X position. Also really like Lavonte David in round 2; he's got a great skill set for the cover-2 and some good upside for the future. Cam Johnson is as likely an answer at DE as any of the guys that we might draft higher. Mosley is a solid LT prospect, who will benefit from the solid O-line coaching Tice can offer. In the 5th round, Burfict would be worth the risk (though I expect someone to take him in the 3rd). Donnie Fletcher is a solid cover-2 corner who was snubbed from the combine despite a solid senior bowl performance. Greg McCoy could be another Corey Graham type on specials.

    Round 1 (19) – Kendall Wright (WR)
    Round 2 (50) – Lavonte David (OLB)
    Round 3 (79) – Cam Johnson (DE)
    Round 4 (111) – Brandon Mosley (OT)
    Round 5 (150) – Vontaze Burfict (OLB)
    Round 6 (184) – Donnie Fletcher (CB)
    Round 7 (220) – Greg McCoy (CB/KR)

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Just say no on Burfict

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Burfict is a cancer.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    SI brought this dude into this blog, and I'm going to take him out.

    Sadly, he's just too much of a POS.

    I had so much hope when I first heard of him and posted his highlight vid. But the dude is Jamarcus Webb2, but with a horrible, violent attitude. He's a fucking lazy thug. Let's stay the hell away. Def. not Bear material… he’s a lion without a doubt.

  • Favre has to be april fools joke. That would be the end of Holmgren in Cleveland.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Jenn Sterger is going to run the Browns cheerleaders. What do they call them, the Brownies?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    sterger + Bruckheimer movies = symptom of almost everything that is wrong with america

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/shutdown-50-44-alshon-jeffery-wr-south-carolina-041809263.html

  • Too bad we didn't keep Greg Olsen.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    oh jesus christ dave.

  • I liked the last bit :

    "NFL Comparison: Roy Williams, Chicago Bears ...."

  • And the plot thickens:



  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm "learning" to kinda keep my trap shut on theses kinda things until the evidence comes out in court MB. The older I get, the more I realize the prudent thing for me to do is temper my responses. This blog has been very helpful to me in that area.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    You're welcome.

  • ha!

  • Ha Spoken like a true friend Doc. I appreciate the humor. See I ain't such a bad guy either.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, when we jump on MW3 why do i only get to choose shitty weapons classes instead of my custom classes? I'm stuck with heavy machine guns with no sights like Rambo 3 and grendades instead of my usual claymores, bouncing betty's and hajii missles.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    i keeeel you, alah, la la la la la la la la la!!!!!!

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Creating classes for a public game and a private game are separate. You'll notice the host can also create custom default classes as well, like the Jugg classes I created for Doc.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    OOohhhhhhh... so thaaaat's why.

    I think you need to go into a private room (when you're not playing with us) and set up your 'private room classes'. I will also make sure that I check the settings to not block customer classes, but I'm pretty sure I'm not.

    Try that tonight and we can jump into a session and see if it works.


  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I was wondering the same thing.

  • MB's move is to block us from using weapons manufactured in the last 30 years. I was using an M60 machine gun last used in Grenada with an iron sight that they found in a Spanish Galleon sunk off the Florida coast in 1845.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:


    1. As my old high school coach (and probably yours too) used to tell me. MB, he'd say.... “MB, excuses... see they're like assholes son... everyone's got one of em... and they Aaaaaall stink. Now get the fuck back out there and get some boyah!" He'd say.

    2. I will not, and cannot, take responsibility for your ignorance of the law sons. Now, please get out the manual that came with your copy of MW3 and read it cover to cover again. Thank you... this has been a public service announcement.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Took me a week to figure out how to use the kill streaks.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    what do you mean use them?

    I only found out the other night about the Predator turbo boost... which I now use every time.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Picking them from the list and using them. I didn't bother reading that manual, and besides, I don't think I earned a kill streak for....uh, a very long time.
    Now I happily call down death from above on you and Nuggets.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm sure you've seen the expert testimonies re: his claims that it was him crying for help in the background of the 911 call.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yep. hence the 'the plot thickens' quote.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Was trying to keep it quiet last night...and btw, I was on a rampage in public Domination games last night. Something like 100 kills 30 assists and 50 deaths in a four game streak.
    It was pretty awesome.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ooops, didn't see the second link.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The guy in the second link, Ed Primeau, is one of two audio experts to conclude that the screams in the 911 call are not Zimmerman's (fwiw).

    As for that first link, ha ha, what a load of CRAP. ABC is completely shameless.

    The "exclusive" video they "obtained" was actually downloaded from the City of Sanford youtube page. I "obtained" it myself, three days ago. It's one of five clips entitled 'Escort.avi':


    Not only did I "obtain" it (using DownloadHelper - a free FireFox extension), I also "enhanced" it (using VideoLan's VLC media player - also free). ABC employs some of the best video editors in the business, and they paid a private company to adjust sharpness and contrast? What a joke.

    Do it yourself - with all five of the clips. Watch them, frame by frame. Then watch them again, this time with the sharpness jacked up. You'll understand why ABC, in the video linked by MB, never actually plays the "exclusive" new video they "obtained," which supposedly "reveals" Zimmerman's injuries.

    They hype it, but they never show it. All they show is a single "enhanced" frame, a cherry-picked still shot. Wingnuts did that days ago. Maybe ABC will show more on World News, but if not, pathetic.

    I could show you individual "enhanced" frames in which the back of Zimmerman's skull appears to be caved-in, monsterously misshapen, or in the process of being teleported to the starship Enterprise.

    The videos are low-quality. They're pixelated, full of artifacts. Increasing the sharpness does not "enhance" them. It highlights imperfections in the video.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Here it is, ABC's "exclusive" "enhanced" "digitized" still-shot that "reveals" Zimmerman's life-threatening head injury, "reported" 4 days ago by the Daily Caller:


    Matt Gutman might as well just suck Dan Reihl's dick.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Are they the ones that also edited the 911 call crunchy? The one where they made it sound like Zimmerman was profiling the dude cause he was black when in fact he was just answering the dispatchers question on what race he was?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That was NBC, the Today Show.

    US TV news is worthless.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Just keep living the dream of 24 hours news and the Internet - you can always find sources to confirm your prejudices. What a country!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    ****MUST CREDIT ABC****

    New Exclusive Enhanced ABC Video Reveals:
    Martin Sought To Carve Initials In Zimmerman's Skull

    Related: Sanford cops have no ears, eyes, or lips.

    Full Story on ABC WORLD NEWS with Diane Heifer.

    ****MUST CREDIT ABC****

  • So... it looks like another Lion is getting wild -

    Reefer Madness

    I'm pretty sure that's Irish's boy... NFL games: 0, pot arrests: 2.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Wow. Look, I'm just trying to get my boys hooked up. I mean, when Hurd went down things went dry ... we need to draft a dealer in the first round.

  • That second sentence is brutal :-)


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Listened to an interview with him on Sirius not more than a month ago and the guy sounded like he had finally gotten his shit together and taken some accountability for his actions when he was in the league.

    Guess he was just continuing to put up a front. Sad.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    jesus. wtf is wrong with that dude? He looks like a caveman in that pic.

    What a waste.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • No trip to West Virginia - which is great...but I missed out on Lambeau Field because of the whole thing, so bummer.

    On the flip side, I still get to take my lunchtime trips to the beach this week and have a PS3 waiting for me in the evenings.

    Net, net - it's a win.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Not a fan of natural beauty, I guess, if you'd rather get raped in Green bay than West Virginia.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Not a big fan of mountain folk, no. At least in Green Bay, I can outrun them and head for the border.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    To each his own, city boy.

    I'd rather fight a bunch of hillbilly rapists and lose than run from a Packer fan and live to tell about it like a big puss.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


    Crunch, correct me if I'm wrong, but you sir.... reside in the aforementioned state.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Tecnically, no. I'm on the border. But I have lived in WV.

    Not offended by the anti-WV remarks, btw. Just like to rag on MBHaP, for some reason.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Only my pride would be wounded, not my butthole, Buttsteak.

    Is that where the nickname came from?

    It's OK, I actually thought WV was really a pretty drive, but I have no desire to drive 8 hours by myself for business.
    That's not relaxing, it's nerve wracking.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    A brave man dies but once, Posse.

    And you know where my nickname came from. #!&!!%#$% MB.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    you're welcome buttsteak.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    You can find Crunch, Smoke Manmuscle, Blast Hardcheese, Thick McRunfast ..... and others at Mystery Science Theater 3000


  • Nice Rabbit. Eliminating hillbilly anal rape from your business life is always a good thing.

    btw, any of you guys parrotheads? Nice to see S.Payton is keeping himself busy these days. He looks monumentally sorry for what he did if you ask me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SK_OyZUxZ_c

  • OK, after reading all the posts in this thread (including my own), I think it's safe to say the NFL doldrums have officially set in....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    lol, tobi, lol

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    But we do have Brandon Marshall. It wasn't a dream.

    Thank you God.

  • http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/02/mikel-leshoure-doesnt-show-up-for-arraignment/

    ruh roh...

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Wasn't this the phenom we were so unwise to not have drafted? Sorry if I'm casting the stone in the wrong direction, but what do you say about this guy now, Irish?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Eh ... can I have his number?

  • Looking at the mock drafts is there really only one Safety in the 1st round?? How can that be?

  • Yep, I'd almost rather take baron over Mercilus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok so then is this class of receivers really that good or was it just the fact that the safeties were that bad? I mean if these guys were such studs there had to have been some colleges developing stud safeties to cover them. Right?

  • no clue sac, sometimes it's just like that right? One year there's a buncha WRs and DEs, the next it's OL and DBs.

    Who knows? Too bad, cause we sure could have used a stacked OL and DB draft this year. Oh well, time to see emery pull some magic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Whatever is fashionable with the "journalists" that are "experts" because of their "professional" coverage of the sport...

  • I always thought if we were going to draft a safety it should be the best in the draft, what do we do if he falls to us? Apart from TE it's the only best-at-position we could draft. Kickers aside.

  • man, people are so fucking crazy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/oikos-university-shooting_n_1397572.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D148595

  • Man, Angelo really screwed the pooch not drafting LeShoure.
    That guy has turned out to be a real stud.

    Mikel, if you're going to eat the pot, one word: brownie mix.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Sooooper.... geeeeeniuous.


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, gee, damn that Angelo guy... and I bet that jerk Lovie had something to do with it too! After all, he could have played an entire *game* for the Bears before the drug busts started coming in!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


    oh mikel

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We found out why he dropped to 54 now.

  • hee hee


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