Audibles From the Long Snapper: More Forte, Schedule Coming, Draft Party

Audibles From the Long Snapper: More Forte, Schedule Coming, Draft Party

How the Chicago Bears Can Help Forte Save Face

The dispute between Matt Forte and Halas Hall reached its pinnacle last week with Forte's Twitter tantrum following Phil Emery's signing of Michael Bush. (A wonderful signing. Bush adds versatility Marion Barber did not possess.) Sean Jensen of the Sun-Times had this quote from Lovie Smith this morning:

Right now, Matt Forte the football player has a problem with our organization. It's not about one person.

Lovie is right. Forte feels disrespected by Lovie, Phil Emery, Ted Phillips, the McCaskey family and the cute broad speaking to children in front of the Seurat painting at the Art Institute of Chicago. The solution here is simple, however. The Bears need to make it public they're reopening discussions with Forte's people. Invite the Double Deuce and his agent Adisa Bakari to Halas Hall. Sit them in the room. Make a deal. Since no one knows for sure what offer is currently on the table, Forte can save face by the Bears front office making it look like his vocal unhappiness ushered this deal down the aisle.

It is a cosmetic concept but Forte's misguided tweet painted him in a corner wherein I'm not sure he can accept whatever their current offer is without losing all credibility with the media and around the league. That's why the Bears should bring he and his agent in. I don't believe Matt Forte is a great running back, worthy of breaking the team's cap. I do believe they are far superior with him than without him.

Schedule, Schedule, Schedule

The NFL announced yesterday the Cowboys will face the Giants at the Meadowlands on Wednesday night, September 5th to open the 2012 season. This was a significant upset. Most expected the decision to come down to the Packers and Steelers - both visiting the Giants this year.

A few things to remember about the schedule this year. (1) The Patriots will meet the Rams in the ridiculous, annual London game. The Rams have signed a deal to host that game for the next few years. (2) Thursday night football begins the second week of the season. Because of that every team in football will have a primetime game this season. (3) NBC has taken over the Thanksgiving night game from the NFL Network. NBC won't want to be stuck with a clunker don't be surprised if a major division rivalry isn't sitting in this space.  (Giants v. Eagles, Bears v. Packers, Steelers v. Ravens...etc.)

Don't Forget DaBlog's First Round NFL Draft Party

Where: Cortland's Garage, Bucktown

When: Thursday night, April 26th. Starting at 6 PM.

What: For $5 you can be entered into a raffle to win a pair of lower tier tickets to a 2012 Chicago Bears game at Soldier Field. (We'll announce which game when the schedule is released.) Once you enter the raffle there is a $25 open bar at the bar in place from the second the Colts go on the clock until the final pick of the round is made. There will also be other giveaways throughout the evening.

Hope to see you there.

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  • First of all - Forte is a turd.

  • Secondly - that doesn't mean we should not give him a 4 year deal.

  • WiWG - Perfectly summed up.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    isnt' that WWTD?

    (what would tebow do)

  • Lovie's comment on the OL is sad and misguided. You can only do so many 3 step drops before the Dline knows to step back and bat down every slant and the DB's know to jump every quick release route. Any Oline would be sufficient if all you did was everything possible not to expose the fact that none of them can pass block for more than 2 seconds.
    If we are truly going to use this shit Oline this year we'd better be in shotgun or moving that fucking pocket 50% of the time.

    Forte's agent needs to man up and set a meeting with Halas Hall to get this shit ironed out. McCaskey has said they have made a fair offer. The best thing to do is have that shitty agent tweak it a bit to make it a little bit fatter without being insulting and take it to the brass to get it done. Then get your lazy ass out there and get Matt a fucking shoe deal or something. D-Rose signed a 250Mil shoe deal. Matt is behaving like a dbag so it may be more difficult for him but he can certainly make a mil or 2 by slinging Papa Johns or sweat wicking socks, powerade or underarmour...

    I'm hoping for OL in FA but it doesn't look promising so let's at least put the best lipstick on that pig as possible. If you're not going to get Jay actual protection you might as well get him another huge awesome receiver that can run 40yards after the 3yard slant that he throws while getting driven into the ground......

    DL or LB in the draft scares me because Angelo fucked it up so often. We should have gotten a FA DE to fill the gap. Back up Strong Side LB can still be filled by a good vet, call Pisa, I'm sure his knee is healed by now.

    It seems like the draft is 30days away but that it has been that far away for weeks. When the fuck is the draft going to happen? waiting for it is like watching the grass grow except that it is made worse because while I'm watching the grass grow I have to listen to baseball talk on sports radio. Fucking baseball? I'll play a double header all day long but if i'm going to be subjected to Cubs and White sox drivel for months when the guys should be talking about free agency and the draft and how bad Marshall is going to fucking destroy the NFCN DB's then i'm going to be day drinking ALOT and work productivity will suffer.

    I'm out of things to mention right now and i'm too tired to go into politics, the trayvon debacle, Iran sucking, etc.

    I'm praying that Pro Football Weekly quickly runs a story sometime today that we signed Okoye and Aubrayo Franklin.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    yes, Aubrayo Franklin. Think Anthony Adams back when Anthony Adams was Anthony Adams and not Anthony Adams with torn calf and knee damage.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    +1. Nothing worse than hearing The Score crew bitch and moan about numerous coaches rejecting the Illini...


    Pisa has been taken my man. However, I think LB Hawthorne is still out there, and he would be a HUGE upgrade.

    However, the Forte situation is handi/capping us (see how I did that).
    The Bears must reserve a certain amount of money just in case a deal does get done. I have a feeling that this is affecting Okoye too. I think that Okoyer really wants to sign with the Bears, but the Bears have told him, "Do us a solid. Wait a little."

  • As an Illini fan, please do anything to get this shitty coaching search off of my tv, radio, twitter feed...anything to keep the media from reminding me that we fired a great guy and a good coach and will end up with someone from the fucking MAC.

  • All turnovers now will be subject to review like scoring plays. No coaching challenged will be needed.

  • AND, there's a move to take the replays OUT of the hands of the on-field referee. This will

    A) Speed things up.

    B) Eliminate the inherent conflict of interest in having the Referee decide weather to overrule HIMSELF or one of his crew members.

    C) Anything that takes a decision out of the hands of the likes of Ed Hochuli and his ilk, fine by me.

    They need to address the "ALL SCORING PLAYS REVIEWED" concept as well to include all POTENTIAL scoring plays. If a questionalbe play was ruled a TD and must be reviewed, that SAME play should be reveiewed if it was ruled NOT a TD.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I agree completely. To admit there may be mistakes on scoring plays, but to then neglect to review where a mistake may have ruled it as a non-scoring play seems terribly inconsistent.

    Problem is: define "potential".

    Without the change, how do refs react? Err on the side of caution and call it a TD knowing that the play can be reviewed automatically, or err on the side of self-preservation and call it a non-TD so that your inability to make the right call becomes less official.

    Also a benefit - Irish conspiracy alert - less people to pay off to ensure the proper playoff story lines are followed. Yeah, I know... it's not the NBA ("make sure this one goes 7 games and Lebron gets his ring").

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Just what we need, Al. LONGER football games.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Exactly. I hope they streamline the reviewing process. When it's obvious, one review, bam, call it.

    Maybe the NFL is trying to sneak in more beer commercials.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    They blew the chance to speed things up by not moving the trvire to the booth booth and staying with the totally inefficent "Boyz in the Hood" system.

    With today's technology there's no reason for reviews to take HALF as long as they do.

    Besides having the BOOTH do the review, here's what else I'd do.

    A) You get 30 Seconds.
    It's a football play, not The Zapruder Film.

    B) REAL TIME reviews only. No slo-mo. Slo-mo THAT is unfair to thew on-field zebras. If you have to slow it down for frame by frame analysis then it's too close to overturn and let's play on.
    These reviews were intended to overturn OBVIOUSgaffes, not find the 2 guys in the grassy knoll.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Thanks, Al. Definitely got a chuckle from me on the Zapruder reference!

  • There's no need for Forte to save face. The organization went out and publicly kissed his ass yesterday and made what they sauy is a very generous offer. Now Forte just has to sign on the dotted line and show us that he is the elite back he claims to be.

    And I wish I could make it out for the draft party. That sounds like a blast, although I dont know how long the open bar would last with me there. I'm up to about a handle of Beam or Williams every 3 days.

  • That explains some of your half-cocked rants.

  • A handle of Beam! That's my kinda drinking!

    However, I believe you're the guy who said I drink piss simply because I find Sierra Nevada disgusting.

    Beam is my favorite booze.. but seriously.. it's some piss.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Beam is the nectar of gods.

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    You are all wrong on Lovie Smith. Lovie always supports whoever he has. His public loyalty drives the Chicago Media and fans insane. He also always says, things like we try to get better at every position.

    These statements are about coaching and motivating the players he has. If you are Webb, you go to war for Lovie. He had your back when you were the 3rd worst tackle in the league. Does it make you better? It has a better chance of making you better than the head coach coming out and saying we suck at left tackle.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    that's somewhat of a silly theorem mike.

    You are either a good football player… or you’re some 7th rd project from Eastern Metaphysical Bumfuck State that gets easily handled by every fucking DE with a god damned heartbeat. Not only did he allow the MOST SACKS IN THE NFL last year, but he also had the most penalties levied against him. Bonus! net-net, I’ve never seen a bunch of pep talks and cheerleading lies automagically turn an absolute turd into a shining prince.

    The guy is a POS of a LT and wouldn’t be on the 2nd string for any other reasonable team. Us not addressing the OL is fucking frightening after the last 4 years. I am still trying to be patient and wait and see just what brilliantly sneaky and surprising move emery pulls out of his ass to get us Jason Peters for our 2014 7th round pick and a case of old style.

    If we start the 4th game with the line we had last year, we will be in deeeeeep shit by the last quarter… when Jay will barely be able to walk, never mind run away from all the guys chasing him…. Yes, that’s even with levi horn, Irish’s fantasy feel-good practice-squad-to-best-LT-in-the-NFL surprise story of the century.

    Fuck me, shitcan that turd Webb and get us a real LT lovie you fucking dipshit. (how’s that for patience?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Shit. Can. That. Turd.

    (If not, use a lot of shotgun and bootlegs)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    LEE-VI ! LEE-VI !

    Maybe if Ginny kisses the turd ... he'll turn into the shining prince ?

    Question for the board. Did we not draft a LT in the first round?

    (blog shakes head)

    {No Irish .... you see when a player is drafted after playing LT for four years in college, it really means that they're a RT, and not capable of playing LT in the NFL. We say "they're projected to play RT in the NFL...." and then nobody questions this and we all move on. Capiche? }


  • You draft LTs in the first round to fill your holes in RT and guard.

    I thought you knew football.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I'll just be the damn noob then .... where do we draft NFL LT's from?

    Centers projected to be guards? No wait .... fat tight ends? That's it. Fat tight ends.

  • Undrafted free agents... Or we pull them from other teams' practice squads...

    (Fat tight ends, of course)

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    It is not a silly theorem. It's a proven reality. What Lovie knows and what Lovie says publicly are completely unrelated. He'll back Webb/Grossman/Martz/Hester publicly until he's got a viable path.

    He knows talent. He knows what he has. Youth Football coaches can tell what they have.. You cussing up a storm about the left tackle, doesn't make the LT better or worse.

    If the Bears don't improve their offensive line this year, it will be because of a series of decisions they made (Marshall, Campbell, Bush, Idonije, etc) not because they don't see what they have at LT.

    I'm an O-Line guy. Played it, coach it. I love great O-Line play. I also believe the guys they have passed on in FA wouldn't change the course of the season, the way the pickups they made will.

    Personally if Jonathan Martin is on the Board, along with Mercilus and Floyd at 19. I'd take Martin. I think he upgrades the team the most.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    You cussing up a storm about the left tackle, doesn't make the LT better or worse.


    MB cussed a storm up about Angelo, and it seemed to make Angelo even worse. I thought he was having an effect.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    how dare you!

    Who do you think finally got Angelo fired??!!!

    Yes, that's right, me and my righteous whining about him day in and day out... you're welcome... buncha damn ingrates.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    I get it. So by the power of this board, bitch away. But be careful what you bitch for... Your bitch may come true.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    pretty happy with the one I just got... shall we try to go 2 for 2?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Start bitching more for a o-line and someone to play d-end like Peppers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    what do you think I have been doing!?

    Well, Oline and a real FS at least.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    I gotta agree with you, Mike. The Ditka school of mouth foam in players' faces did not seem to make anyone any better.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Totally agree Dave. Yelling and screaming works on kids but once you're a professional most of them tune it out.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    Waiiiiit, wait, wait a second there tiger.

    We DID have a viable alternative for weeks on end... only when grossman went down did that VERY viable alternative have to come in and… then rightfully won the job he should have had 6-9 weeks previously. Same thing with Vasher, tommie, etc... etc... etc… once lovie sticks up for you, be damned if you’re total garbage, he’s going to drive it into the ground until his job is threatened.

    Thus, the ONLY thing that makes lovie change his mind/ways is being told straight up that, 'you WILL be fired if you don't fucking win this year asshole.'

    And don't you 4 bastages put words in my mouth please. I could give a 9lb Gambian rat’s ass (yes, I’m using it again… did you see those fucking things?!) what or how lovie SAYS anything about anyone, I want him to fucking DO something about it.

    When the guy is obviously a total POS at thee most important position on our line (with our franchise QBs health and life hanging in the balance), you don't continue to try and develop an obviously outmatched project… you fill that critical gap with a known entity who's proven to do the damn job at this level… after FOUR YEARS!!!

    Guys, it’s not rocket science. I’m arguing that we remove a young, proven-terrible entity at the most critical spot on our line with someone who we know can and will protect Jay… and you’re arguing about this with me… why in god’s name?

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes, he is sometimes loyal beyond to the point of diminishing return. If being too loyal is the Coach's biggest fault, I'll go with that.

    It's true that in each case the promise of improvement, or return to better form, was a false hope.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    so forte can speak his mind
    and get the shit thrown
    right back in his face

    lovie can't say what he thinks
    cause he will offend the weak-minded
    so he just says nice things

    the problem with language
    it is a seed
    planted in the mind
    and can eat a hole through
    the psyche of even the strongest
    individuals' head

    lotta seeds being planted
    near and far

    forte has a right to speak
    people bled for that right
    fuck all of our judgement
    just speak and let them talk......mat

    lovie is positive
    it sets a vibe in his athlete
    who is working his ass off
    to better himself
    for our benefit
    so keep the webb talk upbeat...... lovie

    the time to settle 'issues"
    is in the fall
    at practice
    then level the language to the play portrayed

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think Lovie says the negative things too. Just behind closed doors, to the players face. Or maybe even on the practice field. But publicly he supports his players no matter what. If I'm wrong on this, then he is negligent and shouldn't be coaching. I have a hard time believing guys like Urlacher would love a coach so much, if the coach doesn't come down hard on the slackers or underachievers.

  • Yeah Doc, good point. It is hard to imagine guys like Brian, Olin(!) and Peppers putting up with too much of that shit.

  • Shanahan noted that Cutler went from benching 225 pounds 27 times to three times before he was diagnosed with diabetes.

    ‘‘He lost 30 pounds, Shanahan said, “but he never missed a practice or game, and he never complained. So when I hear people question his toughness, I just laugh. People have no idea what type of toughness this guy has, how he plays with pain. They just don’t know.”

  • Cutler is the man and is the right QB for Chicago. I can't wait until we go to the playoffs and beyond this year so people can shut the fuck up about him.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    amen brother

  • wow, 27 times for a QB. THAT is impressive. And some of these HUGE 300+LB linemen can't even get past 15... pathetic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think 3 x 225 is pretty impressive.

  • yes, but you live among small people.

  • I'm sorry but I am highly skeptical of the "225lbs 27 times" That would put him in the top 20 in the NFL combine and with a bunch of 340lb linemen. Sure he's strong and tough but unless he was juicing I'm not buying it.

  • He did 23 reps at the combine, Sac. Twenty-seven pre-diabetes is very believable.

    He also ran a 4.76 40.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    He is a big boy but thats pretty nuts for a QB. One shy of the record set by Brady Quinn. I think I can do 225 about 10-12 times if I dont do my pyramid. Right now I do about 6-8 reps by the time I get to 225 and thats tough. I tried to do 10 a couple weeks ago and didnt make it. Sat there with the bar on my chest for a few seconds until the guy next to me noticed and finally helped out. How embarassing.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Why would Shanahan lie?

  • He's Irish, ain't he.

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  • I like Matty a lot. I am willing to overlook the twitter crap completely... he didn't slam any other player, he didn't make any slurs, he simply made a few statements out of frustration. In the end his comments will only hurt himself financially; so why should I care.

    Forte is a top 10 RB, who wants top 5 pay. But he is also a 2nd round pick that gave 1st rounder numbers in his first four. He is wanting to be compensated for being underpaid in the past and that just won't happen. Take the 8 million a year for four years Matt, prove your knee injury means nothing and make your numbers match a top 5 back.

    For me, Matt is probably the most versatile RB in the game today. Not many other 6'2" three down true tailbacks in the game that have his feet and tackle breaking ability and can adjust to the ball in the air the way Matt can, he can do more with a screen than most other backs and is decent at protection; his only knock is short yardage. He makes our entire offense more dynamic simply by being on the field. With all of that said, I think he should take the current offer and stop twittering.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Tackle-breaking? Who, Forte? Decent in protection ? Forte? Haven't seen it myself. Now Bush in protection, yessir .... and no back is scarier on a screen than he, and his feet are at least as quick as Forte's - for a guy his size that's pretty incredible. A versatile back can run inside, outside, catch it and pass protect. Forte can do half of those things well. But yes, we will be a better team if he takes his 8M and somehow scrapes through the next year on such a pittance. Lovie's comments today sound like a precursor to some other announcement ...

  • Your response does not reflect my observations, nor I daresay most people who have watched Matt play football.

    Matt Forte is better than Michael Bush.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    It would be really nice to have them both on the team. Matt, take Irish's advice and scrape by on the $8M for just one more year man. If you'd like I'll send you a case of shrimps ramen to get you by.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw dave, I agree with your basic statement, but Bush is MUCH better in short yardage/goaline and in protection.

    And he did have more than double the TDs last year in fewer games (I believe)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    beef mang

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    You ask Matt to "make your numbers match a top 5 back", while still not paying him to be one. What you propose is that Matt continue to be underpaid. I don't get it.

    Personally, I think the Bears should leave the contract offer as it, but add incentives that, should Matt perform in the Top Five, would get him into the top five in pay.

    Simple, really.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    seems fair.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    As long as there's a touchdown and 3rd down converions clause inserted, I'd be for that.

    But Bush might be taking away some of those stats. But in the long run, Bush will make Forte last longer. No way can any RB last with the way we were riding Forte.

  • True, true, true! I'm not suggesting that getting Bush was a bad thing in any way. But he is *not* a substitute/replacement for Matt.

    We can all agree that the Bears are much better off with both than one or the other. But if it were just one, I take Forte 100 times out of 100.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    one thing is sure
    when a D has to scheme
    for the bears
    it used to be forte... first
    now let us see if his numbers improve
    he should have one of his best years
    under a tice run system
    that includes multiple weapons
    forte can say what he wants
    cause he has gone to bat for this club
    time and time again
    shame on our percieved
    calculating interference
    into his contract battle
    to our team ... the last 3 years
    he was as valuable
    as any back out there
    he wasn't equal or better
    but, he was our best
    and in my mind that is good enough
    to ask for the $



  • Saw this beside it - looks like we might have messed up by not going after Mark Anderson.

  • A stupid stat in my opinion.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Agreed, it's basically a highest average YPC list.

  • New OT rules passed. Same system for regular season as the postseason.

  • San Francisco 49ers reached agreement with former Giants running back Brandon Jacobs.

  • wow. whiny bitch.

    I don't get that dude. 6'4", 265fuckingLBS who runs a 4.5 40... and he gets leg tackled a whole whole lot. Fuck man, if I was that big and fast it would take 5 guys to bring me down every time. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    Maybe his center of gravity is just too high? I should have taken more physics classes

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's hard for a 6'4" dude to lower the boom on a guy that just dives at your legs because they know not to hit you up top.

    However, you can hit him up top now and he will fall down as usual.

    Oh, that whiny bitch made Major Wright look silly two years ago.

  • you're using that as your barometer erik? Jesus, him and about 10 other NFL RBs.

    Major crumble is a dogshit tackler.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It is a lot easier for me to tackle the guy by knocking my shoulders into his knees than taking him head up.

    Did your coach make you believe you could hit anyone head up and not get run over?

    If so, you should be playing NFL right now and have 399905 MJ sneakers. I was taught to make sound tackles and to lower the boom when you knew that you could.

    Major has this problem. He lowers the boom or hesitates and misses a lot of tackles.

  • He made Urlacher look weak too. Lach didn't quite get low enough, and thought he could just pad-smack him to the ground - nope. He'll make the 49ers better, fo sho.

    Let's bring out the Juggernaut:

  • In reply to Jokey:

    The problem is, he's not running all the time with authority anymore.

  • And Tom Brady juked (and I use that term loosely) Lach out of his shoes a couple of years ago too.
    That doesn't make him Cam Newton.

  • So who all is going to da blog party?

  • In reply to Shady:

    I will.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'm coming and bringing friends.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'm going to show up with a name that reads: "Hello my name is: MB30SD" and call everyone maing. Not like you suckers will know the difference muahahahahaja ahhhh just kidding...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Please! You wish. You're nowhere near as handsome, smart, and your penis probably isn't 10 inches either.

    An obvious imposter!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll just bring my PS3, my copy of MW3, and see if I end up with a positive KD ratio.

    That should be a dead giveaway.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Cold. How long are you staying in Chicago Mike?

  • He knows that I keeeed.

    I'll be up there Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and flying back to VA on Sunday.

    Hoping to do a tour of Soldier Field while I'm there.
    My tour of Lambeau is probably going to be next Monday morning sometime. Wish I had a memento to leave behind.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You should definately try and do the tour of Soldier Field. It was really cool and you get to see the locker room, trainers area etc. And of course you have to get an italian beef sandwich from Al's off West Taylor. Wish I could join you guys for the draft party!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    positive KD ratios are for campers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    lol - that free-for-all match cheered me right the hell up a couple of nights ago. Thanks, maing!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    bastard. As did the one before it for me... uhhhh... so there!


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Those Little Birds are a motherfucker, aren't they?

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  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The AH-6 overwatch...the personal helicopter bodyguard in MW3.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Me and my brothers.

  • Clocked jeffery at a 4.38 first 40 attempt

  • Jeffery 4.47 on second attempt

  • Forte is a difference maker - 2nd in 20+ runs last year. His backups don't have his speed. He gives us an element the other passing teams don't have; without him, we don't measure up.

  • I know... I don't want to be negative because I am totally pummped for this year. And I think we have gotten markedly better... and I know this is just media bullshit talk, but his style still just pisses me off man.
    danpompei about 4 hours ago
    Lovie indicates Major Wright and Chris Conte starting safeties,but says "we need to add a safety."

    MB: Yes lovie, you fucking think? And not some project or cast off... we need another franchise 'mike brown' after 5 years of garbage lovie. We've tried the white formula, and the swole formula. Maybe it's time to employ the strategy successful teams use... get a 1st round type safety that can and will play back there for years, not games.

    danpompei about 4 hours ago
    Lovie doesn't rule out using Hester more on offense: We’re continuing to look for ways to get a better plan for how we use Devin Hester.

    MB: Awesome. You know, since that worked so well the last time we tried it.

    danpompei about 4 hours ago Lovie: We like the group of OL we have right now. We can be successful with them. But if someone can improve us, we’ll look at them.

    MB: You'll look? You think maybe we can improve on the 1st to 3rd worst line in the NFL 4 years running? You fucking think that might be possible or smart lovie?

    Still SMH at this guy man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB what are we going to do with you? Why do you let Lovie speak get you so worked up? After 8 years you should know what he's going to say and ignore it. Of course Webb sucks. Can he get better? Yes. Will he ever be anything other than just a guy at LT? No. Tice will help him out to get better and have TE's and RB's chip away. The Genius was so stubborn he would never help a guy out. Possibly Carimi ends up on the left side. Who knows what Emery will do in the draft? You have to like our chances in the draft this year. Tice is no dummy and he will be working with Emery. There will still be a lot of movement in FA after the draft. Even that dope JA signed Ruben after the draft.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Loviespeak is so boring and cliched, I usually fall asleep before gtting worked up about the obvious lies.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...and that is why we call him LDL.....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "There's a lot of football left to go. We like the group of guys we have. We're a good football team. I think we're a better football team than that. I'm not going to discuss that right now" Yup listening to a Lovie post game interview is like watching the Princess Bride for the 5,000 time only not enjoyable.

  • I agree with all of you about Lovie speak but he's not going to change so why is it an issue? It's like watching interviews with athletes. Almost all of us know what they are going to say. Who cares? It's like Forte bitching. Who cares?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    it's the offseason canada. I have to be fired up about SOMETHING maings. Just fodder for the boys.

  • And you rarely get laid afterwards.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Tice will have Webb the fuck out of LT pronto, he's not blind. Just really fat.

  • Not sure of that just yet Irish. I do hold out some hope that Tice will have blocking schemes to help out the OL. Especially when they are up against top notch DL's and blitzing teams. I never once got the impression The Genius ever put a player in a position to succeed. He just put players in his fabulous schemes and let the chips fall where they may.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The Bears have not with even a shred of consistency, since 1965 anyway, put offensive players in a position to succeed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..I love yeah brah...

    LDL is the stick and you are the Hornets's get's ugly every time you two

  • There was one thing I read in the article about Lovie and the OL that gave me some hope. Lovie was excited about Tice's offense, especially the changes in the blocking schemes. I think Tice will tailor his offense around the talent we have (unlike The Genius). Also, I'm pretty sure Brandon Marshall is going to make DC's think twice about blitzing all game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    CB..."Also, I'm pretty sure Brandon Marshall is going to make DC's think twice about blitzing all game."

    If they don't "Cutty" and the "Beast" have the kind of season they had when the went to the Pro-Bowl together

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    here's my thing canada.... should we need 'special' ro 'creative' blocking schemes to help our shitty oline out? Why don't we just get a better oline and then just worry about running and throwing the ball to all of the available backs and TEs?

    That sounds like a much better plan to me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "ro creative" sounds like Scooby Doo giving a birth control talk to kids.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • couldn't agree with you more I have said on earlier post's...a straight line is the fastest way to the finish line.

    Double get your arse and your homie agent in to HH and get it don'e...simple..quit acting like my teenage daughter grow a couple and stop the "F"ing drama..or I will let you borrow one of my daughters dresses with 22 on it...beyauch!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Good stuff, Lobo. That got me laughing.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Lobo, I'd love to see that in the 800 metres final in the olympics, that would be proper LOL material :o)

    Running a straight line to the finish that is ... not your daughter growing a couple ... like right there on the track. That would be gross. Not your daughter, I mean the actual balls sprouting out of her ....

    {Eh ... yeah, we get you Irish ...}


  • EWWWW! Too much information, Irish!

  • tee hee hee

  • NFL Network...SB XX...hey Jimmy Mac cruising Bourbon Street!!!!

    right now!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I can picture it now.

    "Hey Jay, you must be really pumped to be in New Orleans for the superbowl, 26 years after the Bears lifted their last Lombardi here ..."

    "Well ... y'know .... the women are sluts here .... whatever ..."

    (Lovie cuts in)

    "We like sluts ... we'll get them drunk and take it from there."

  • that was funny

  • LDL's Press-conference's in a nut shell.

    Why they don't just put a cardboard cut out of him, place a speaker where his mouth should be and just play these all the time and rewind:

    “Last week, we won as a football team and everything went right for us. Today, it felt like the total opposite.”

    “We let one get away from us today. We have to find a way to finish the game.”

    “We have a kicker that's hit some bad balls, and he has to get it right.”

    “You have to play rookies, they're the best players we have. That's how we look at it.”

    “We're going to play the best players. “

    “We had opportunities but we couldn't put it away. We've got to find a way to win.”

    “We just want to play good football. We don't want to beat ourselves.”

    “Cedric is a good football player,”

    "Right now, Caleb Hanie is our starting quarterback."

    “Offensively, we needed to put points on the board.”

    “We are a good Football team”

    “We have plenty of football left”

    "Right now, Rex Grossman is our starting quarterback."

    "Right now, Kyle Orton is our starting quarterback."

    “I feel like we had control of the game most of the time.”

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Many of those comments are in losing causes. Lovie has a winning record. All the rest of 'em? Yep!

    Totally agree about the cardboard cutout. People hate how boring he is when he speaks to the media. For me, boring is good. The media makes every little thing into some monumental controversy to sell their product. Why give them that opportunity?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    agree on the losses CB...his pree conferences' remind me of this:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Love that clip.

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    In reply to lobotobear:

    You forgot, and I'm paraphrasing "blah, blah, whatever, whatever, AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE"

  • In reply to lobotobear:


    Lovie-isms! Love it (pun intended)

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    “Cedric is a good football player,”

    Hahaha. A favorite.

  • Somebody clarify this for me..

    Why do baby momma's get so much money in child support?

  • Every state is different but it's based on the fathers income. Why all famous young men don't wrap that rascal or get snipped is beyond me (unless, of course, they're ass deep in friends).

  • Tweet Urlacher and tell him if you find out .....

  • Tee hee

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's just mind boggling that a women needs 100,000 a year to raise a child.

    I mean, by the time the kid is ten, the mom could very well be a millionaire.

  • It's the basic conceit of the court:

    The kid gets to live the lifestyle he/she would have lived had they stayed married, even if it wasn't the father's decision to get divorced.

    The only way to undo that is for the father to have primary custody.

    Illinois has a new formula, the 50/50 split. Custody is split and the equation is based on the difference between the mother and father's income. That's usually a losing proposition for NFL players too.

    NFL players are pretty much screwed until they invent a pill that makes sperm unable to swim but has no other side-effects.

  • not if her mom is an actual woman, artoo.

  • You are young and single so you have yet to start paying household expenses. It goes fast, padawan...and college tuition ain't getting any cheaper.

  • Are you trying to tell us something Artoo? Are congratulations in order? Told you brah, you can always hit Thailand, no child support here. It's a man's world.

  • Nope. Just saw how much T.O. and Rodman owe in child support.

  • On the Road... with Lovie Smith,0,861800.story

  • Bears Mock Drafts (as of 3-25-12)

    Here’s the top 3 draft gurus according to Butch.

    Kiper (ESPN). OT Mike Adams

    McShay (ESPN). WR Michael Floyd

    Nawrocki (PFW). CB Stephon Gilmore

    Other prognostications:

    Casserly (NFL Network). DE Whitney Mercilus

    Banks (SI). DE Whitney Mercilus

    Campbell (Walter Football) WR Kendall Wright

    Bunting (National Football Post) DE Quinton Coples

    Dove (Bleacher Report) DE Whitney Mercilus

    Davis (NFL Network) WR Michael Floyd

    Reuter (NFL Network) DE Nick Perry

    Brooks (NFL Network) DE Andre Branch

    If you guys have other experts who you like (or updates), feel free to add.

  • Notes. Many analysts had us drafting Floyd originally, but two factors have changed that. 1) Marshall 2) Floyd’s great combine, which theoretically moved him beyond our reach. On the other hand, Wright performed well on his pro day, (couple that with Floyd’s alcohol incidents), which may make Floyd available for us again. With Marshall’s flirtation with suspension, some insist that the Bears will insure themselves.

    As you can discern, the consensus now points to DE at #19, with Mercilus as the favorite. However, Mercilus is a bit controversial. Some believe that a “one year wonder” shouldn’t be drafted that highly, and even mock him falling to the 2nd. While others argue that he may be drafted before Coples.

    For those hoping for a Webb replacement, only Kiper has us drafting an OT, and I think this will change too. There’s a reason for that. Some view Reiff and Adams more as RTs in the NFL. Also, some experts think Martin is a pure LT, just not good enough to be drafted at #19. As a matter of fact, some rank other LT prospects like Jeff Allen, Mitchell Swartz and Bobbie Massie ahead of him.

    As for CB, really only two players would make sense for us here (both are big): Dre Kirkpatrick and Stephon Gilmore. Kirkpatrick comes with minor character concerns, but more importantly, the cover 2 doesn’t place a high premium on the position. Nevertheless, that philosophy was under Angelo. If Emery truly goes by BPA, then either become real possibilities.

    Other dark horses: LB Kuechly; DT Cox; WR Wright; WR Hill;

    Here’s a link to Kiper and McShay talking hard core draft.

  • I think Floyd could drop to us still if people still consider Justin Blackmon the best WR on board.

    A lot of people are thinking that the WR group are going to drop down. Thus, Flyd could still fall to us. Depends on how much Wright and Blackmon increase their stock.

  • I just wonder if Emery would draft Floyd if he is available.

    First, he trades a guy with a personality disorder. Then, he drafts a guy with some DUIs and other alchohol related rumblings.

  • It's the NFL.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Next thing you know they're going to let guys play that have murder raps, drug charges and assault charges on their records.
    And then where will we be?
    Why, Baltimore, that's where!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Just tell Ginny they are all really nice boys.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Haha. I wouldn't mind Floyd, but we all know Lovie and Ginny don't like "troubled" players.

    Emery might not give a fuck though. Ought to be interesting.

  • Do we not shoot ourselves in the foot by drafting a receiver in the first? With Marshall, Bennett, Hester and Roy, is a first round WR that much of a need? Over DE/LB or OT? Surely we could pick up a value receiver in the 3rd or 4th rounds, that's where good scouting comes in.

  • Roy is no longer on the team.

  • Here's some nice break down on Kirkpatrick v Gilmore

  • Here's a quick bio on Michael Floyd

    I like that his fav WR is Fitz. Marshall and Fitz are pals, so if he comes on board, he can introduce him.

  • I would so love to see Keuchly. But I just don't see him falling to us.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I'd love to see us draft Keuchly if he fell, would Nick Perry be there for us in the second if we did?

  • Boom:!/si_vault/status/182910781044695040/photo/1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...scary part I remember that one.....sheesh how old am I...

  • The kid has skills

  • Well... oddly enough - the ONLY upset in the entire Madden 2013 cover bracket was our favorite disgruntled RB -

    Vote for Erin Rodgers!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I'm glad they put Forte against Willis. No way Forte beats him.

    I think it's actually gonna come down to Rodgers, Megatron, Cam and Gronk.

  • How in thee hell did Tebow lose...

    I thought all he did was win?

  • hee hee

  • more fun with cutler's impressive bench press, it was higher than chris williams, and j martin & mike adams this year


    "We feel like we have a good plan at the left tackle. … We have all of our options open right now, but if we end up playing J'Marcus Webb at left tackle next year, we'll be comfortable with that."

    Yeah LDL....... Titanic's Captain Edward John Smith just thought it was an ice cube than ran into and that "were all set" and it's all good.

  • I really hope we McNeil is wanting to play for Chicago for a cheap contract filled with incentives.

    He would be a great pickup that I would be okay with competing with Webb for the job.

    McNeil and Okoye is really the best two guys we could sign right now. Please Emery...

  • What's the cap situation now Artoo? Surely we're up against it now ?

  • any thought boys and girls?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    great analysis. Guy seemed to really know his shit. Coples was the only one who he really really liked.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, but did you see Coples get grilled by Casserly at NFL Network?

    Coples looked like Nixon at the Kennedy debate...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Can we draft both of those D-ends?

  • R2...from you lips to the football Gods ears!!!!!

    still thinking we need help on the O..not sure if McNeil is it though...

    and then to top it off without fort knox we need another badass receiver..AND HESTER IS NOT IT!!!!!! LDL...

  • I think Jeff has an interview or a guest that will be on this blog. Pretty cool

    Desmond Clark.

  • DEZZY!!!!

  • Dude, what the fuck Urkel?!

    That chick is full of shit anyway. golddigger. Step offa my boy steeeeeve. (dude, someone HAS to do this after a TD next year)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What is it with you and Erkel?

  • dude, steve is the man. step off.

  • Pretty cool 6min synopsis of 2011 by NFL Films.

  • Scientist cuts open Duerson's brain and shows you the damage, up close and real.

    (video is halfway down the page)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "It's too small for an adult male's brain," she says. "There's shrinkage pretty much throughout the brain."

    "I would assume that with this amount of damage the person was very cognitively impaired. I would assume they were demented, had substantial problems with their speech and gait, that this person was Parkinsonian, was slow to speak and walk, if he could walk at all."

  • Puts his final act in a heroic new light.

  • "But the diagnosis helps understand why Duerson ended his life the way he did. Of the 50 cases that have so far been diagnosed as having CTE at the brain bank, no fewer than 10 of them killed themselves, while others died in strange and violent ways such as wild car chases, gun accidents or drug overdoses."

    Reminds me of an article I read in San Francisco Weekly. For years people thought football simply attracted "crazy" ppl (or euphemestically "a special breed"). Now we know that it also helps create some through brain damage.

    I wonder if that drug resveratrol will be effective in limiting concussion side effects...hope so.

  • I would like to see more clinical trials on reservatrol, agreed.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    holy fuck... that was dave duerson's actual fucking brain man... his fucking brain.


  • #Bears announce they've agreed to terms with WR Devin Thomas on a one-year contract.
    Height: 6-2 Weight: 221 Age: 25

  • Sean Jensen ‏ @seankjensen
    Don't get concerned about the position; he had three catches for 37 yards in 16 games last season. His value is on special teams

  • Well, that came out of left field. It only further reinforces my hunch that Knox will be PUPed at the least, most likely IRed.

    We should be signing Okoye, not throwing around money for more sp teamers.

  • I guess Lovie feels happy with Toe & Flatbread in there.

  • I'm guessing they asked Okoye to give them a chance to match his best offer. Okoye is still making the rounds. Actually I'm hoping that's what is going on. If Okoye is happy playing for the Bears, why not?

  • Wow. Looks like a smart pickup to me. Thirty-fourth overall pick in the 2008 draft. Never lived up to his potential, but has been a great special teams player, especially for the Giants last season.

  • Awesome signing. No way we're drafting a WR in the first now. Good.,0,2564456.story

  • im not so sure about that.

    D-Thomas & Weems are not really viable no. 2's. They are replacements for Roy, Hurd. I could still see us drafting a receiver fairly high.
    What if draft unfolds and Floyd still there, and all the 1st rd level linemen are gone? best player available.

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    In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Quinton Coples, come on down. I've now seen two mocks that have him available at 19. That would be the bomb. He's a stud, with upside.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    i see him dropping out of the top 10, but all the way to 19?

    I mean, if everybody is so scared of his ork ethic (because that would be the reason he drops), why would we potentially fuck up our 1st pick on a lazy bum? I get the connection with Peppers, but at some point it has to come from within.

  • In reply to Big Mike:

    What's the name of that sure top5 pick that dropped all the way to the second round last year? that was knee related i if i remember? Did he do anything this year?

    i don't know, just asking. But when over half the NFL don't wanna touch you in spite of your immense potential, i'd be really scared to pick that dude. And im a Tar heel (b-ball) fan.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    You're thinking of Da'Quan Bowers.

    25 tackles, 1.5 sacks. Not a monster year, but then again, we are talking about the Bucs. He had one good game against Carolina where he picked up 1/3 of his tackles for the season and all of his sacks, and then he more or less disappeared again.

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    In reply to Big Mike:

    One of the main reasons he was dropping was more teams taking WR/OT/QBs than expected.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    No doubt we'll draft a WR. No way we should be drafting Floyd when we need an end, a LB or an OT/C. No way.

    Marshall, Bennett, Bush, Davis, Hester ... there's 5 targets to be getting on with. Briggs, Urlacher ... and that's that. Peppers .... that's it. We need other help before we draft a WR in the first.

  • Emery is doing something Angelo rarely did. Create depth.

  • MBHP - Here's your Perry Mason moment:

    Zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and back of his head, according to a police report, but the video, provided ABC News by the city of Sanford, shows no obvious sign of injury.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Saw that - pretty odd.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He didn't appear to have recently gotten his ass kicked.
    And I found it strange beforehand that his bludgeoned head healed so quickly that it didn't need treatment in the ER.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Posse - the one cop was looking at the back of his head but I didn't see any real damage there or on his face. I predict that this does not end well.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Even Perry Mason would lose if the case was tried in the courtroom of Georgie's dad, retired judge Robert Zimmerman.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Forgot to post the link:

    Trayvon tried to beat my poor Georgie to death.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Here's the best part - Judge Zimmerman on the haters (the President, the NAACP, and the Congressional Black Caucus) who seek to gain notoriety and profit from the Zimmerman's pain:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm perfectly willing to say, btw, it's not conclusive because maybe the EMTs did such a stellar job at the scene that he looked great by the time he made it back to the station. Only they really know what he looked like in the immediate aftermath. The public won't know that until they are compelled to testify, and that ain't happening without an arrest and a charge being brought.
    In the end, I still think one only need to look at it from the perspective of Trayvon Martin that night and think, what would I have done?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Stellar job, alright. The medics assessed Zimmerman's injuries, staunched his bleeding, cleaned him up, and released him, without a single bandage, in record time.

    Here's more footage of Zimmerman arriving at the Sanford PD. These (consolidated) vids are time-stamped. They were recorded about 30 minutes after the shooting.

    Remember, Zimmerman claims that he, not Trayvon, is the person heard screaming for help in this 911 call:

    Trayvon supposedly hit Zimmerman (who, btw, doesn't look like a scared little fat boy) hard enough to break his nose and knock him to the ground, and then continued to beat him while he was down. Trayvon apparently used a weapon of some kind, because accd. to the funeral director, he had no cuts or scrapes on his hands.

    But a little quick work by a medic makes Zimmerman look like he's being brought in on a vandalism charge? Not likely.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Oh, I agree.

    And Zimmerman is not a fat 250 lbs. What is intriguing me now is that I can't find any definitive statements on the location of the gunshot wound, other than the upper chest area. No idea whether it originated in front or back.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, it's amazing, with the paperwork that cops and medics do, that we have nothing definitive, just grainy surveillance video, media speculation, lawyers statements, etc.

    That sort of information, when presented to an American audience, is polarizing. By the time the truth comes out, people will have formed their opinions.

    I hope it turns out that Zimmerman is guilty or innocent beyond any doubt. Otherwise there will be rioting in the streets. I'm starting to think that's the whole point. Paranoid, I know.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    PS: The funeral director (interviewed by Nancy Grace) said the gunshot wound appeared to be in the upper chest, but added (paraphrasing), "that's where the autopsy is done." Apparently, Martin's chest was opened by the ME.

    The funeral director didn't notice any other wounds. I don't think he could have missed a gunshot wound to the back. There's no way the cops and medics could have missed it. So, 99.9% certain: front chest area.

  • Looks like we got a new DA on the team and his name is Devin Thomas. 6'2 220, talent but needs to step up. Bye bye Dane, we've replaced your tiny slow white dropping balls ass with a jacked fast silky chocolate underachiever that will be playing with a ton of confidence after helping win the G-Men get to the superbowl.

    I feel good about this pickup. I also like that he is fucking huge compared to Sanzenbacher and is an automatic upgrade.

    what a douchebag. so awesomely gay

  • MB, Legadu is still our there. Why aren't we going after him? Did he get hurt last year?

  • This is such a bad idea on so many levels:

    The concept is that you take a trained office of the law with a minimum of a year in service, post-academy, and replace him with a civilian with two weeks of training, and put them in charge of tracking and documenting the status of registered sex offenders.
    Bad idea for the safety and welfare of the released offenders, bad idea for the $27k a year employees that are undertrained, underpaid, and unarmed in potentially dangerous situations, and bad idea for the state that will assume liability for the inevitable screwups that will result from this program.
    Rather than matching state police staffing levels to match the need in the community, let's cut some corners on public safety in the worst way possible. The part that kills me is the two weeks of training these civvies get. My driving classes took longer than that.

  • Firm thoughts ... by Jack Handey :

    1. The Bears are actually happy with our O-line, and will only be drafting for depth on that line.

    2. Forte will not be playing under the franchise tag as it only benefits matt forte. Recent comments from both sides suggest a disturbance in the force. I don't think he'll play in Chicago again.

  • I don't understand your second comment - "it only benefits matt forte" to play under the tag?
    I don't get it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He gets 7.7M guaranteed this year if he plays under the tag. He might only run one play, break his leg, and he gets 7.7M. If we tag him, and he comes back next year, we pay him 120% of that. Still cheaper than the 14M he wants (or whatever), but then next year he walks away and the Bears get no compensation. This franchise thing all ends up with the Bears letting him walk for free.

    His numbers will go down this year no matter what, he'll never be worth more in a trade than he is right now. His numbers the last two years were inflated due to the lack of talent on the Bears' offense. If we're going to trade him - which is the most likely scenario seeing as nobody wants to pay him $14M a year, then it needs to be now. The franchise route is no good for us. It's good for Forte. No team is going to want to give us picks and then pay him the money they know he wants on top of that. He plays under franchise tags and he eventually walks for free and the other team just has to deal with the salary.

  • Trading Forte is now our only option. He's not getting paid what he wants - that's clearly not going to happen. Emery will not sit there, give the man $7.7M in guaranteed money and watch him sit out the off-season. The Bears are just waiting for the best offer, it's obvious.

    Tice is going to have a ground game, with or without him. Forte thinks he's more important than he actually is. One thing our O-line can do is run-block, Cutler can do the playaction thing, it's all good. Bush, Bell, Clutts, Unga. We can do this ... plus we'll have more picks, and cash to play with in FA. Hi Plax!

    Forte's best numbers are behind him, he just doesn't realise that.

  • Why would he sit out the offseason if he signs the tender? That just means he's pissing away $30k in fines for each day he misses. And if he's not signed to an extension by mid-July, signing the tender is the only contract option he has.
    You are absolutely dead-set on finding a reason, any reason, to trade him.
    For what, pocket lint and some chewing gum?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The tag on Forte heavily benefits the Bears because they pay him to play this year, not guaranteeing money in future years for performance that may or may not happen.
    If he's the big winner in this, then why wouldn't he, and every other guy that got tagged this year, just be ecstatic about it?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He is ecstatic about ti. He can't lose. We can. And we are guaranteeing him money - 7.7M next year! He breaks his leg in pre-season, and he gets 7.7M for playing no football. How does a franchise tagged Forte benefit the Bears?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He's not ecstatic!!!!
    He's fucking pissed, Irish!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I know. I'd be suicidal if somebody offered me me eight million dollars to play football for a year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Forte is forcing it - my feelings are irrelevant. I'd rather he was on the team, but he's not playing it that way. If he signs the tag, we lose, cos he'll walk for free one day. The problem I see is that we can't find a good trade for him because teams aren't going to want to pay him 14M after giving up the picks for him. We're going to get hosed either way.

    But we'll run the ball with or without him.

  • Every contract expires, Irish. That makes no sense - the tag is to our benefit.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    How? We'd have to sign him tot the tag next year too (I don't believe the Bears will pay him 14M a year, nor should they) .. .so we'd tag him again ..... and then watch him walk off into the sunset the following year with no compensation. He wins in any sceanrio. We don't. It doesn't look good for us because no team is going to want to bend over after giving up the picks for him.

    We either trade him for below his value, or he walks away for free in a coouple of years ... all of his money is gauranteed in that time. He literally can't lose.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    SMH at your logic on this.

  • Irish, in 2 years he'll be old by running back standards and some new toy will have come along and we wouldn't want him anyway. The fact that we can franchise him for 2 years in a row is a huge advantage. It allows the Bears to pay him one year at a time instead of for multiple years upfront. Our window is 2years anyway....

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    That's a very good point. As long as we're prepared to get nothing back pick-wise in two years for him, we're win-win. We gave him a fair salary and had his best years out of him.

    I don't feel so bad now. I still think they'll trade him for getting pissy, but I hope they don't. Another two years and bye bye. I can handle that, and as you say, that's about our window anyway.

  • Irish you are off your rocker. Forte will be Bear in 2012. Unga? Your really still bringing up fucking Unga? I don't think he even exists. And I really do not get your raging Bush boner. He's a pretty good back, Forte is a great, special, top 5 in the league back. What else could he have done last year to prove it?

  • He just hates him for whatever reason. It has gone far beyond rational thought for some time now on this subject.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I don't hate Forte - he's a whiny bitch, business should be kept in-house - but I don't hate him. At this point I'd rather see him on the roster, but he's not exactly making that easy, and he's just backing the organization into a corner which could end in a trade. That trade won't bring good value given the money he's looking for. Is there anybody out there with a bunch of picks to deal plus a lot of cap space?

    All I ever talked about was investigating his worth to us, it's hardly personal. It's not like we can't win without him - if he stays, great. If he goes, we can improve the roster in other areas and sign a tackle. It's all good.


    "Never go Full Retard" monologue from Tropic Thunder, 2008 By Robert Downey Jr.

  • if we don´t sing Forte by next week. this draft will be more interesting than we all are expecting.

  • 5. Defensive end Andre Carter — Carter racked up double-digit sacks in 14 games last year, but he hasn’t been signed because he’s still “limping heavily” after a late-season quadriceps tear. Carter should find work quickly once he’s healthy.


    I just HAVE to believe this is propaganda to throw off the competition in preparation for some big moves to sure up our most very biggest worst weakest link. A smart GM who's seen the tape over the last 4 years doesn't look at a totally unchanged… “For the second consecutive season, the Bears were ranked last in the protection index.The team’s pass protection improved from a rating of 33.1 in 2010 to 43.2 in 2011, but the Bears were far behind the reigning leader, the New Orleans Saints, who had a score of 88.0.”… line and say, "let's just go with these same guys again!"
    it's not possible. New scheme and wasted backs on chips be damned.

    And this just can't be real: "As for left tackle J’Marcus Webb, who allowed 12 sacks last season, Smith is optimistic the 2010 seventh-round pick will improve. “There are some things you have to do to help him out a little bit more at times, which we plan to do,” Smith said. “So you can make a case and throw out stats on what he did.”

    I mean, no coach with an IQ over room temp can actually believe that bullshit right? How much can he possibly improve? From very last to what... maybe 10 spots MAX? That still puts him in the bottom 1/3 of tackles. We want that protecting cutty?

    Nope, simply. can't. be. real.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Mike Tice knows more than any of us MB. Nobody has said (on the BEars' staff) that Webb is perfect. I do believe that Tice can work his protections with Webb through scheming and called-plays. If Forte gets moved, then we could afford a FA LT if so reqquired. Caruimi could move to LT - Lovie has just come out with thsi, but he said he likes CW at LG. We have alternatives to Webb on the roster already.

  • We're going to hammer people with our offense this year, not worried about that. No pass rush and no linebackers - now that's worrying.

  • ok, tell you what guys. I'll leave it alone (or try my hardest).

    I simply don't believe that you can turn shit to gold after 4 years of trying... with essentially the same guys. Yes we got better last year than the year before... moving us from very last in the NFL to 3rd worst last year. Awesome!

    I'll tell you this... if carimi's knee implodes and we lose one other starter and the shit hits the fan, don't cry about it on this blog or I will blow you the fuck up (except lobo, johnny and a couple others who've also been advocating more depth at line).

    Likewise, if the line ends up working, and we don't have injuries, and they break into say, the top half of NFL lines, I'll very publically eat my crow on this here blog.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll assume Garza can keep playing at his level from last year.

    I will assume that Cookie, once his arm heals, will revert to his late season form.

    I will assume Spencer holds down RG if LL cannot.

    I will assume Carmini comes back at a high level.

    We need a LT.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I personally, think those are some big assumptions since there are always going to be big injuries.

    And even if we lose only carimi, it puts a big hole in the effectvieness of that line. But, given your assumptions above, and as you correctly state, we still have thee worst offensive lineman in the NFL last year at the most critical spot on that line. I don't think losing a back and/or TE on every play just to help his sorry ass is a viable option that maximizes our new options.

    wait... well, shit... my leaving it alone lasted one post. Damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One pick in the top 3 rounds has to be OL or my brain will melt. Even in a year not known for great OL in the draft I know for a fact that a OL taken in the 1st or 2nd rounds will be better than Webb. I know it because I am simply not a vegetable.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But the line was working last year MB. It was, up to a point. Even J'MArcus was okay for a while when MAd AMrtz reined in his 7 step drops and let Tice use his protections. With a healthy line and Tice calling the plays, we should be noticeably better than we were at our best last year. Add to that the offense being more 'sensibly' called, audibles, designed bootlegs, Tight-end usage and Brandon Marshall, and I'm actually feeling pretty positive with the setup.

    Bear in mind, Tice will move Carimi to LT if shit isn't working out .... I believe Louis can play RT, I think he was playing hurt when he gave up all those sacks and they just had no one else to put in.

    But even with WEbb at LT, he'll have Bush in there chipping in, KD, Spaeth, whoever. I trust Tice to be smarter than Marta was in working with the tools he has, instead of calling plays for the tools he'd like to have. They'll pick up a guy in the draft, and it'll all be good mang.

  • Williams is more likely to move back to LT than Carimi. They've publicly said this already.
    I would not be surprised to see a lineup (from left to right) of:
    Cookie, Big Ed, Garza, Louis, Carimi with Webb as a backup at both tackle spots.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    cookie at LT was a disaster. I believe in tice, but the guy ain’t a magician.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I like that lineup. Although Lovie did say in his most recent bit in the trib :

    In addressing Webb's inconsistency , Smith said, "You can look at the situation sometimes and anybody in the league can look bad. There are some things you have to do to help them out at times, which we plan to do."

    Smith said Carimi is likely to start camp at right tackle, but did not rule out a shift to the left side.

    He also said Chris Williams could move back to tackle, but he probably could make a better case for him at guard.,0,1806030.column

    That would suggest a lineup of GC, CW, RG, EW/CD, LL - at least the blind-side would be rock solid and that's a scary run-blocking crew when you throw in Clutts and Bush. The play-action off that is surely unstoppable with Marshall, Davis and Bennett.

  • and what happens when carimi is lost forever when his TWICE surgically reparied knee blows up for the last time.... and we lose, say garza for 4-5 games?

    uh oh! Paging J webb to left tackle again... paging jwebb.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well I've been calling for a Konz pick if we can get him, center is a bigger need than tackle for me. They'll draft a tackle don't worry. Horn is there. Sure, if we get injuries on the line we're in trouble. Ten years of ignoring the line will do that. They can't fix that over night.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bingo! 100%correct, but they should be trying to fix it now, yes?

    Why add another year of not fixing it into the equation is my stance.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We just managed to replace our starting center with a serviceable Guard and if anything, the line play improved.
    Center is not a pressing matter this year. If we draft a Center before round 7 if at all this year, I'll fall over.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Spencer can play center if garza hits the wall.

    Not worried about center specifically, was just trying to give a most probable 'what if' (based on garza's age).

    Get us a known entity at LT and a couple higher round Oline picks (2 and maybe 4 or 5) and I will be very happy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah, that was a response to the "center is a bigger need than tackle" comment.
    No fucking way. Tackle is the issue. We have pretty good depth on the interior.

  • I totally agree Irish, and think that is very possible... to a degree. It was working before we had injuries... but guess what... we will this year too, guaranteed. I am just hoping carimi's knee lasts one or two full reg season games.

    Look, I'm not advocating we get 5 new guys who are all pro bowlers. I just think we need more than a rookie or two (even if one of them is a 1st rd guy) to sure up the line. I would have been MORE than happy with a Gaither, or McNiel, or even D.Bell pick up in FA... AND then a couple higher oline pick-ups (2nd or 3rd rounders)... but doing nothing and claiming that a scheme change will fix everything and we have ok depth... that's just not true.

    We have one more year with lach, briggs, maybe pep, potentially forte… and this is the year man. Why not sell out to give us our best chances of getting it done - instead of relying on a line that's proven for 4 years to be bottom of the barrel?

    Above all, I just hope this is all posturing and that emery is not only going to knock the draft out the park, but will make some additional pick-ups when all the cutting/shifting goes on during the pre-season. I believe he will do much better here than angelo’s did with his cowboys cast offs last year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey, I was one of those too!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    you too dave.

  • ok, floggin a dead horse. Let's wait and see what we look like when the reg season opener goes down. I trust emery will have done the right thing by then.


    Say what???

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I saw that. No way that happens. That would be ridiculous. Like Albertsons only selling their brand of bargain goods. won't happen.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Albertsons - my first job.
    I think it's even worse - I can't think of a good analogy because it's so damn restrictive.
    What the fuck.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    can't happen... won't happen. just silly.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No fucking way! Are you kidding me? The PS4 will eliminate sharing video games or renting or buying used ones? That's fucking fascist!

    I bought a backward compatible PS3 before they discontinued it. Why did they discontinue it? Because they still wanted people to buy a PS2 AND a PS3. Fuck them.

    Everytime I play my backward compatible PS3 I feel a little Thomas Paine in me.

    If the new PS4 indeed prohibits playing used/borrowed games, I'm switching to whatever new system doesn't. I may also switch to Linux if Windows becomes Nazi-ish too.

  • Yeah, I would stop buying Sony after that. I would rig a PC to the television before I would revert to closed consoles.

  • Why would anyone (who's not rich) buy a PS4 in that case? In Asia, they sell consoles pre-chipped so that they can play copied games. Games are $2 here. They get the rich kids in the west to subsidise everything - chipping your console is a piece of piss. Paying $60 for games is insane. Moral high ground is for people with cash.

  • yep, but I gotta say... I've gotten WAY more than my $60 worth out of MW3. You can't get that much entertainment (in pure hrs) for $60 anywhere else.

    (and humiliation, frustration, anger, smack talking, etc…)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Speaking of which, I need to go rewatch that hardcore free-for-all match from last night.

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    All this talk about Tice seeing good stuff from one of the worst OLines in the NFL is a little bit to much.
    If that's the case Tice should lose his job if the new scheme & his bigger role doesn't make this group improve. Right?
    There where great FA for little money & the Bears had a lot of cap space for at least one of them. And I'm not talking about some Over 30 ex guard that Tice knew when Seinfeld was in the second season.

    That suntimes article speaks about misunderstood players and lack of cap space. That's just crap. 1) It was Tice that invented a line who looked like this fron Week 4 on: RT-LT-RG-C-RG !!! 2) The Bears can play around with the players contracts like any other team.

    Just lame propaganda.

    PS: At least there is a potential real GM in the house so you just have to love the Bears this year.

    Mihai (Romania)

  • In reply to Barb Mar:

    well put mihai.

    Nice to know my frame of thought has some support in the carpathian/transylvanians.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wonder how much of what has ailed the OL for the last four years can be attributed to the last two offensive co-ordinators? If the highest rated O-line in the NFL the last few years had to handle Martz's game plans, I wonder where they would have ranked....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    I'd bet the Saints offense passed as much, if not more, than Martz and Turner called in Chicago.

  • In reply to Shady:

    But they have (or should I say, had) receivers that can get open.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Perhaps because they had time to finish a damn route before the guy throwing it to them was creamed?

  • since erik is pursuing frivolity by going to... class, I'll play him today.

    Some interesting pro day prospect scouting reports can be found here:

  • AWESOME!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I love lamp.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    and I love boobies rabbit:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB if you haven't seen the movie Winter's Bone, check it out. She plays the daughter of a hillbilly meth head. There's no skin in it but she's great and the movie is very realistic.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    A movie about Hillbilly meth heads. Great. Does it have Elmo in it?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That movie was the most depressing fucking thing I've seen since....well, the news that Snooki was pregnant.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I hear that was a great movie, a friend recommended it to me. Forgot to check it out.

  • MBP is right, it is depressing but very believable. I was shocked when I saw her doing promo for the Hunger Games. Had no idea she was such a babe.

  • here's one for you and johnny:

    (there could be 100 more for cali... even 5 or 6 for SD... they left out karl strauss for christ sake!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lucky Bucket, out of Nebraska, is fantastic.
    Ditto for Boulevard out of Kansas City. Best unfiltered Wheat I've ever had. Bar none. And I've had alot.

    The ones they listed from Virginia are kind of "meh".

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that's a cool chart. I love Goose Island. they've been doing some great Belgian type ales lately and i've been testing the fuck out of them.

  • Holy shit that is fucking brilliant:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ha, found this close by :

  • Earl Scruggs, RIP:

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Ach, screwed up.

    Clickable link: Scruggs, Cash, & Dylan

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Saw Earl playing with his family back in the mid '70's. Incredible. His son Randy on guitar is as good as it gets in this genre of music. Killer live album from the same period.

  • Hey Irish, I just found you a new way to make some extra cash for... and with... the twins:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice one mang. I could totally take an 8 year old girl. I'm going to check that out ASAP.

  • dude! go back to sleep.

  • On center not being a pressing need - we have 3 LTs, 4 if you include Horn. Center-wise, Spencer was rated 30 out of 32 centers in the NFL as a Seahawk and Edwin will hopefully be starting as a guard, so it becomes a very pressing need if/when Garza goes down. Are we supposed to hope he doesn't get injured and then draft his replacement when he retires?

    Preparation means assuming Garza/Urlacher go down and having somebody who can step in.

    We have no depth at C/LB. Tackles we have.

  • no, we have a body at LT, the most important spot on the line. We need a real LT above anything else right now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Anyone know how much cash we have left?

  • Ugghhh:

    Fucking sign Okoye now.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    don't feel too badly johnny. We just got a guy who made 3 recs for 37 yards last year... I wonder if he can play left tackle at all?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    do you mean this guy?

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Yes that guy.

    But your post has me wondering two things:

    1. First, why are you looking at playgirl magazine calendars John?

    2. Jacked doesn't always = great football players.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    here's one for you johnny:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    #2... case in point:

    #1 on the list.... Vernon Gholston

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you know this link is in your "favorites" on your desktop

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Hahahahaha, you caught me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ha! great question MB. I looked up Devin Thomas the other day when news got out because I remember a Devin Thomas recovering 2 fumbles in the NFC Championship game. Then under a couple of links I saw some thumbnail pics and thought to myself, "there is no fucking way this guy is that gay." Then i clicked on the link and confirmed that in fact this guy was Devin Thomas of the Chicago Bears.

    Good pickup though. Sam Hurd-esque without the drug dealing, showed signs of real athletic and WR talent in college and maybe in an environment like Chicago he can thrive. we'll see but I'm still pissed that we haven't improved DL or OL. Losing Adams and Okoye won't make us better.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I was just mussin mang. I totally get how you can easily end up on a gay porn site while searching for something innocent like, “tight workout shorts”. Oh wait… have I said too much?!

    In all seriousness, I am totally down with having some good back up options at WR and getting ST studs on board, but for reasonbaly big cap hits and ahead of real needs like OL or DL or FS? Hmmmm....

    I did float a (conspiracy) theory to MBP and Shady light night while we were blowing each other up with RPGs....

    Ready? Here we go…. all these higher profile ST pick ups by emery early on... what if he's prepping to give toub the HC gig next year (unless lovie take us to the show) by setting him up to succeed and have a huge year this year? Makes his argument/reasoning that much stronger/easier.

    Just a thought that creeped into my mind... churn that around and tell me what you think. Boom!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No fucking way Emery is going to risk this window just to give Dave Toub the HC job. We lost 2 special teamers and replaced them with 2 guys that can offer the same if not more. That is an improvement.

    Emery brought in Brandon Marshall because he knew that the Bears are wasting Cutler without viable threats.

    Emery brought in Bush and Campbell because Barber almost single handedly kept us out of the playoffs with the help of Hanie. Hanie is the ultimated playoff cockblocker.

    Everyone knows that we go to the playoffs with a healthy Cutler/Marshall/Urlacher/Pep. Even packer fan boys have to admit that. Bears are going to the NFC Championship if remotely healthy and Lovie will get an extension if that happens.

    I want to say Rodgers Dead but without a bookend to Pep i'll just say Rodgers you'd better be semi concerned. Now on the other hand I can say with confidence that Marshall is going to fucking embarass guys on opposing defenses. Winfield will be cut after the Bears play Minny twice. Delmas will rip a hammy trying to keep up with Marshall when we play the Lions. Packers are straight fucked now that they have to deal with a video game character at WR for the Bears.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    speaking of the packers....

    wish him the best of luck.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    yeah, that sucks, collins was a baller

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    For his sake, I hope Nick retires. Kind of like these guys you see with all the concussions - how many is one supposed to "take for the team"?

  • this one's for shady:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not bad, maybe he could teach you a thing or twoooo dooooood hahaha.

  • In reply to Shady:



    Hahahaha... check out grossman on the bench. Wish he'd have stayed there.

    Oh oh... speaking of small-hands... I just went out to lunch with a budy from back in the day, and his wife told me that her best friend is...... Ashley Fox. Sister of a one Rex Daniel Grossman III.

    Any of you guys want an autograph?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh man that would be so sweet! I'd cherish that till the day I died. If only I had a photo of him fumbling for the millionth time.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh hell yes - but how does he hold on to a pen?


    You're fucking welcome.

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