How I Might Approach this Chicago Bears Offseason

How I Might Approach this Chicago Bears Offseason

As things are beginning to shake out around the NFL and teams are the free agency period is approaching with rapidity, it is time for me to start guessing. That's all this time of year is for football writers, after all. None of us know which team is going to cut which player. None of us know which prospect has become the apple of which team's eye. And then there's the bloody franchise tag making the whole system even more unpredictable. So here are four guesses, mixed with criticisms, opinions and erroneous conjecture.

  • Tackling the wide receiver is a tricky proposition but it is actually rather easy this offseason. If Phil Emery can't orchestrate the near-impossible trade for Brandon Marshall, there are four WRs on the market with 80-100 catch potential: Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Marques Colston and Stevie Johnson. Jackson possesses the combination of speed and size Cutler covets on the outside and he's spent his career playing with an enigmatic quarterback in a dynamic offense. The Bears could then use their first round draft pick to take either Kendall Wright from Baylor or Michael Floyd of Notre Dame (both projected to be available) and find themselves with an entirely rebuilt receiving corps heading into 2012.
  • I think it's time for the Bears to put more value on the cornerback position. For years we've heard that corner in the Lovie system is valued less than around the rest of the league because it is far more reliant on sound tackling and discipline than on excellent cover skills. But the league has changed and teams are now moving to almost exclusive passing attacks. With what might be the deepest FA cornerback field in a generation, I'd like to see Emery add some physicality on the outside. Cortland Finegan would do that. So would Brent Grimes if he becomes available. Brandon Carr, Carlos Rogers and the Terrell Thomas (coming off a bad injury in 2011 for the Giants) would all be improvements to the Bears secondary.
  • The more days goes by the less likely I believe the Bears will be interested in a premier defensive end on the FA market. Those guys cost a boatload of money and defensive end is fourth or fifth on the Bears' needs chart. Mario Williams will require not only a lot of years but a lot of money. It will be interesting to see if the Bears become players for Robert Mathis or Osi Umenyiora - two elite, pass rushing veterans who might require a less-lengthy commitment.
  • Let's not forget backup quarterback. Right now Peyton Manning is clouding the issue. When he lands somewhere the dominoes will begin to fall. But it seems two players will be available next month: Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell. Both would provide the Bears with experience and poise behind Jay Cutler. Both would have led the 2011 Bears to the postseason after Cutty broke his thumb.

You'll notice I've left the offensive line out of the mix. Why? Because I believe Mike Tice will convince Phil Emery he can win with Webb, Williams, Garza, Spencer, Louis and Carimi. And I believe those will be the guys playing offensive line for the Bears this year.

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  • First to pull the valve stem and let the air out of the tires on the Marcus Colston bandwagon. I don't feel the least bit bad about vandalizing this wagon after watching his season somewhat closer this season than in the past.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Secondarily, I'm surprised that Blogfather took a pass this post on the Briggs issue. Briggs is in the last year of a front loaded deal, which means another year making what he made last year. I have a feeling that before camp begins, we will hear some squealing on this.

    Lambo scissors doors don't install themselves.

  • GP he's got 2 years left on his contract. I'm guessing Emery adds a couple of years with some extra cash. #54 is in the same boat but he's not raising a stink about it (this time).

    We definitely need to upgrade the CB spot. I also agree that Tice isn't going to scream and yell for another OL. We're pretty well set except at LT. With Tice not being insane he will give Webb help when he needs it. I'd love to see them upgrade LT, just don't think it will happen.

    No doubt the WR position will be upgraded. Only JA could think adding Roy Williams and Sam Hurd to a WR group made up of Bennett, Knox and Hester was going to be the nipples on the tits. I'm so glad JA got canned. He did some things fairly well but his blind spots were amazing. Not to mention, no GM was worse in the first round of the draft. He wasn't all that great in the second round either.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    OK, here's from last year's Sun Times article:

    Briggs, 30, has three seasons left on his deal, which will pay him $3.65 million this season, $3.75 million in 2012 and $6.25 million in 2013. The New York Jets’ Bart Scott, who signed a six-year, $48 million deal in 2009, will make more than Briggs this season. Scott has been to one Pro Bowl, and that was as an alternate.

    My bad, I thought he had two last year. But I knew he wasn't getting paid the big bucks this year.

    The only question is, do you want to take a 2.5M hit to your cap in a year when you want to sign people, and reverse the order of his last two years, so he is paid his 6.25M this year?

    I think you probably try and work that deal if you can, just to make him happy and get one more Pro Bowl year from him. He shut up and played this year... eventually.

  • In reply to gpldan:


    That was my first thought, just flip the last two and shut him up. Fuck me maings, I would kill a dude for a $3.7M year (ok, not really, but you know what I mean).

    Perspective briggsy my man, a liiiiiittle perspective dude.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I dunno, MB30 - for $3.7m a year, I'm not so sure I'm kidding.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I still think they will add a couple of years and give him a bonus to pad this year. He talks too much but he comes to play. Every D snap last year. That's crazy! That hit on Megatron would make me reach for my wallet if I was Emery.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Can someone give me valid reasons as to why Lance Louis or Chris Williams couldn't play LT better than the revolving doors we have currently installed?

    Saying we shouldn't go after Mario Williams is a head-scratcher. We're well under the cap. We don't actually need to go out and get a bunch of guys in FA. Marshall and Mario would do just fine. Marshall puts us over the top on offense and Mario makes our DBs look a whole lot better. With Tice being more sensible about what we attempt, our offense should be potent regardless of what happens. Agree that we should be wary of Colston - in order to make 80-100 grabs he's got to be available all season. HE he has 4 seasons of 12-16 games played. That's not bad, so if we had a pay-for play contract .....

    I have a good feeling about Emery now the cancer has been cut out. A couple of players in FA and a couple of gems from the draft has us in very good position next season. We need the balls to pull the trigger on a Mario Williams type signing though - we need a pass rush perhaps more than we need a receiver.

  • Well, we already saw Chris at LT and it turns out he's way, way better at Guard.
    LL at LT is an unknown but the struggles he had at RT towards the end of the year (which I think were injury-related but who knows) do not make one particularly eager to see him get knocked around at LT. It would be interesting to see whether coordinators started going after him more in the last third of the season.

  • Webb is Tice's guy.

    Tice has also said that C.Williams is better at run blocking than pass blocking in his career so far.

    Lance Louis however, we do not know how well he would do a LT. My guess is that they want to see if Webb improves after one year at the position.

  • Agree, need getting better play from the trenches

  • I'm saying trade Briggs for Uminyora. Both are unhappy with their current deals and the Bears could badly use someone opposite Peppers. Losing Briggs would hurt but he's not going to stop whining about his contract. They could draft a LB in the second or third round to step in.
    I skip on VJax. I go Bowe or Stevie Johnson along with Floyd or Jeffries. Or if they slip to us at 19 I say Dre' Kirkpatrick or even Jenoris Jennings.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    He would be a nice pickup but I think Briggs is worth more.

    Everyone is wanting to trade Briggs now.

  • I don't want to trade Briggs, but I don't want to pay him any more either. What I do not want to do is release him; there's too much value there for that.

    The hallmark of a good GM is not just finding good players, its making sure not to overpay for players even if they are good.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Absolutely wouldn't want to trade Briggs, but if he's going to whine his way out of town we may as well get something of value in return. Umenyora is younger and more talented than Idonije. Draft a OLB in the 1st or 2nd and you've put more youth on the team without decimating the team.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    It's hard to fathom how many people are happy with dumping Briggsy.

    That would leave us with a LB roster of precisely Brian Urlacher. We can't go into the season with one decent LB, especially not one his age. Very few LBs can 'step in' to the world of NFL defenses where everything happens a lot faster. It's strengthening our LB roster we need to be doing, not weakening it. I would have no problem with Emery selling our draft so that we could get both Konz and Burfict. Quality rather than quantity.

  • Getting rid of Briggs now would be a waste. No one is going to give us equal value and it would just shit in Lach's cheerios for no substantial improvement on D. Now, if we're talking one of the other young studs on the Giants D-line, I could maybe, maybe consider thinking about it, but they'd be stupid to take that trade.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Are we going to find Briggs' replacement in the second or third round though? We franchised him in '07, I can take a whiner - but replacing linebackers when we don't need to ....

    I think it's madness to draft a WR in the first. Look at the rarity of first year receivers who produce. Last season there was AJ Green, and was Cruz a rookie or a second year guy? We don't have the time to train up another receiver, we need to be winning come September. Somebody mentioned Stephen Hill in the 3rd. 6'5. That'll do me.

  • I also wouldn't hate bringing in Zach Brown (OLB) with our 19. As much as I hate thinking about skipping a WR with the first round pick I just keeping thinking about how many first year receivers actually make an impact unless they're top 10. Bears D is aging badly and I'd rather take OT/LB/CB or DE with #19 and sign a FA receiver or two. Bowe and Eddie Royal would be good complimentary pieces.

    We need to address the defense badly in the draft though. Mario Williams would be a pipe dream. He would eat every last bit of the cap space and as many holes as the Bears have would not be ideal.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    You get Mario, everyone will look good on defense.

    Offensively we would have to rely on the draft. It would buy us time to fine replacements on the Defensive side.

  • I don't even think they could sign him given the signing bonus and yearly salary he will command. I would say they would if they didn't have the Forte contract, among many others to re-sign. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the guy but I just can't see it happening and still having enough cap space to fill the roster with capable starters and back-ups. The Bears are not one key FA aquisition from being super bowl contenders. They need at least a WR and o-line help and possibly a corner if one is not drafted. There are tons of holes to fill.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I agree that M. Williams will take a lot of cap space, but it's still doable (even if Forte does get franchised). We got Pepp, and I can't exactly remember our cap that year, but I'm almost positive it wasn't more than we have this year. We can always back-load the contract.

    Also, if we don't have enough cap space for him, nearly no one does this year. That would mean that only about 5 teams (with their own resignings and franchised players) would have the cap for him.

    M. Williams is an option for us - unlike for the Pack, Lions or Vikes...

    Getting M.Williams will to me signal we're trying to win NOW. But like I said, Emery is going to have to decide on whether he wants to win now, or build HIS team to win in 2-3 years. He may not be as sentimental about Lach, Briggs, Peanut, Hester winning a championship.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    But there aren't tons of holes to fill. WR. DE. Two big FA signings would do it. Two.

    We get those guys, here's what happens ....

    Our offense is the tits - and most games are over by the second quarter. Our pass rushers then just have to pin their ears back.....

    We don't need a corner if we get Mario Williams.

    We're good at safety with Conte/Steltz, Pringles and Merriweather as backups. Again, they all look good with Mario AND Peppers in front of them.

    We have the players on O-line already - we were doing quite well until the injuries - even with a liability like Webb playing LT. We do need a center in case Garza goes down, and he won't play forever anyway. Konz fixes that problem.

    Throw Burfict into that soup somehow and we roll the clock back 27 years. Total domination.

  • Add to that CB, TE, possibly safety. Tim Jennings and Kellen Davis are FA's and the Bears have to decide to re-sign them or not. I don't trust Major Wright to stay healthy and we don't know what Steltz is yet. They need more than one receiver as well. They've got Earl and that's about it. I will never trust Jamarcus Webb. I want him on the bench where he belongs, so to me they are also in need of a capable LT. I'm not even asking for a stud LT, just one that doesn't look overmatched everytime he plays.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Thankfully I don't see anyone going after KD, he's still under the radar and will like Tice calling the shots.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Mario Williams and Julius Peppers as bookends. Picture it. Henry Melton, Paea and Okoye in the sandwich, with Izzy ready to spell the ends. It's practically unblockable, and if you sneak DJ Moore in behind that lot it spells murder. Class isn't cheap.

  • Okoye is a FA and if we let him slip away then I will be sad.

    That dude has potential like Melton does. IT would be sweet to have to young DT's set for awhile.

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  • In reply to SI Camps:

    Did we just get spammed?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Dude should know we are all WAY past our playing days. Watching us put the pads on again would be painful, like watching an old folks home re-enact the fight scene between Anakin and Obi-Wan.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll be 60 this year. Do you really think that's too old to strap on the pads? YIKES!

    There are very few trades in the NFL. Not sure why so many posters keep fantasizing about it. Trade a multiple Pro-Bowl LB when we have nothing behind him. Doesn't make sense.

    Same with trading Hester. Somebody posted he's one-dimensional and we should trade him. Yes he's one-dimensional. However, that one dimension is greatest of all time. With Knox down we only have Earl Bennett as a returner. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention, with a sane OC let's see what Devin can do once he heals up.

    I posted the same at the end of the last thread. We need more good players not different good players.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    bingo canada. you and I are of very similar minds on this stuff. A bit scary actually.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Ha Ha. Strap on the chin strap Canada!

    If you read my post from the previous thread, all those trade talks fall into my "Third Camp" category of Bears fans this off-season.

    The Tin-Foil on head camp. These are probably the same guys who have a system to beat Vegas lol

    It's fun though. It's a lot more fun than talking about percentages like last off-season, that's for sure...

  • Totally agree. I get it's fun to kick 'em around but realistically very unlikely.

    The thought of getting smoked on the gridiron is frightening to me. Hell, it was 40 years ago. When I read posters calling NFL'ers pussies, I have to laugh. Other than punters and kickers, you have to have a brass set under your kilt to go out there and throw down.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You can redshirt at QB Canada. I'm 40 next month, but shoot me full of cocaine and cortisone and I'll be good to go. Worked for Lawrence Taylor.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The wife and I went and seen Phantom Menace 3D on Friday. It was OK... kinda like watching the Phantom Menace, in 3D.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:


  • Randy Moss wants to come back to the NFL!! Could u see the Bears with Moss, a round 1 WR like Floyd and with Earl Bennet lined up on sundays? Also even throw in Roy Williams if he can make the team...Williams and Moss for Cutty to throw to could make for an explosive pass game.

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    Moss flamed out with 3 teams in one year (NE, Minn, Tenn). Not sure there's much left in the tank.

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    Williams and Moss explosive? About as much as opening a can of soda.

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    Sorry man, but it was clear about picking NE garbage.

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:


  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    Tice was head coach while Moss was on the Vikings, right? We might have an angle there.

    But seriously, how hard was that to call? "Ok, here's the play. Moss runs 50 yds down field - throw it to him."

    You know, I did hear one really interesting tid bit on Moss that made me rethink who he was.

    A CB, I forgot who, was asked why Moss was so hard to defend. The CB responded that Moss was not just 6'4 with great hands, speed, vertical, but that he worked at his craft. The interviewer asked for an example - 'Well, his eyes, his pupils don't get big when the ball's near. As a corner, you're trained to look at a WRs eyes, and if they get big, then you know the ball's coming and you put your hands up or get into position. With Moss, you never know. The ball could be in the air and the cb would never know'.

    I'm paraphrasing, but I thought that was really interesting. How dee hell do you train your pupils!?

  • I like the angle. I don't like Moss.

    I have heard that story.

    There is another one.A former player talked about how when he went to look up for the ball, he couldn't see it because of the lights, but Moss would catch it every time.

    As long as it got anywhere near his hands, it was good.

  • Weed - copious amounts of weed.
    And I'm sure he paid with straight cash, homie.

  • Cris Carter just came out and called Moss a quitter. It seems his last three teams would agree.

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    Sure would have loved Moss about ten years ago .... not so sure about screwing our draft for a WR that will take years before we stop flaming him on the blog though.

  • Fuck me, I would settle for the 2007 Moss.
    But now...the guy is toast. He will be lucky to sign with an AFL team.

  • Have you guys seen MA Men? Funny shit.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ok, maybe not so funny to this Masshole

  • Not much left in the tank or Lack of motivation?

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    Either way, why hitch your wagon to him? If 3 different teams can't motivate him, knowing he's likely headed to the scrap heap, how are we going to motivate him?

  • In reply to CUTTYWINS:

    The tank fell off about three blocks back. Motivation left town somewhere around the five million dollar mark.

  • Moss needs to stay retired! No interest here.

  • Jeff, I hope You´d be wrong about the offensive line. Need one more young gun there, who says Mike Adams???, I´m fine with Webb as a back up either side, but need talent there. u can have the NY´s recivers in chicago but if no time to launch..... who cares..

  • In reply to elcaney:

    Bingo, bingo, bingo!

  • In reply to elcaney:

    I am sure that Emery is going to build depth and talent through the draft.

    If Mike Adams is the best playmaker available then he will draft him. We need to fill holes but we cannot keep passing on good players to fill a need.

  • I got your point R2, I´d agree if (following this order):
    a) A better LT is aviable at our time (called Kalil or Reiff or Jonathan Martin) I won´t take any chance to risk a season by other injury.
    b) Alshon Jeffery runs 4.6 at least, don´t trust in Floyd kid. I´d need to be in the interview room with Emery in that moment to give or not my vote.
    b) Mark Barron is aviable.

  • In reply to elcaney:

    I'd say anyone in the line room could play LT better than Webb. It's not that he's a bad pass blocker ... he can't pass block whatsoever - the man can literally not stop anyone. Fill a sack full of shit and leave it at LT and Cutty is safer on a drop-back.

  • In reply to elcaney:


  • Artoo, from last thread:
    "Dudes, I need the thread or some new comments about how "The Princess Bride" works at getting laid or getting a girl. I remember a few but my roommate still doesn't believe it works. If you guys remember what thread it was or your comment, just write it. Thanks."

    Is that the thread where Irish recommends Booty Talk and The Creampie Ebony Series? If so, it's here:

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Wow. Thank you.

    Ha, you know something, only us followers will know who Johnny is.

    He changes his name more than Ocho.

  • I have seen that movie 4 times and had sex immediately afterwards three times. It works.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Admit it, Crunch - you ARE Larry Page.

    Remember, use your power for good.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    If I had 17 billion dollars I wouldn't need to search Da Bears Blog for date flicks. I'd get the IP of this chick, jailbait or not, and woo her with the ultimate aphrodisiac. Is that evil?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    If you had 17 billion, I would expect you to do the same charitable works on DBB that you already do...finding me my Mishka bear shirt and being an occasionally misguided voice of reason.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    i think it's a crime that no one else has thanked you for bringing this girl to our attention.

    thank you.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    her name is riley steele. she's a porn star. so i'm pretty sure your 17 billion would work just fine on her. learn some more about my new love at this NSFW link:

  • In reply to evantonio:

    ...or your $1,700

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Riley Steele? Sounds like she needs to meet up with Dick Ryder.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Nice find. How'd you do it? And why'd you tell me? I liked her better when she was innocent and corruptable.

    I'm telling you in advance this time, if this woman's boobies are fake too, I don't want to know about it.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    when you drop an image into google image search, it brings back all similar images. and while i also enjoyed the innocent and corruptible, i've since learned that i enjoy seeing the naked being corrupted just as much.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Very cool. I tested it by dragging Blogfaddahs gravatar into image search. Yep, it's Larry Vaughn, Mayor of Amity.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Which reminds me ......

  • Which thread was it when someone said after the apocalypse scene in Princess Bride, it opens the door for anal sex?

    Crown or GP said that .. I think.

  • Same thread:

    Quit dreaming about PS3somes with men and do your homework.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    hee hee

    (I see how you did that)

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    LMAO.. nice one. Sigh, I guess I will get started on it.

  • Moss, really? Jesus.

    Vjax or Stevie AND Floyd or Colsoton/Manningham

  • Canada, this one's for you my man:

    ...and all those FOOLS who think the latin chick even comes close to holding a candle in the same universe. Puh-fucking-lease

    Holy. Boobies.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bless you, my son!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll see you an Upton and raise you a Sofia!

    Oh, and this is just for you Artoo...

  • Oh my! Like I told MB, you guys take your pick and I'll take the other one. I'm sure they would both be thrilled to hook up with me. Or not.

  • That photo is a lie. There is no panties underneath that skirt.

  • These are state sponsored propaganda.

    These were taken when she was what, 19... she's not, what... 35?

    Common main, I can PROMISE you she dooon look like that no mowah.

    And Kate 1,000 times over maing. Easily.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    now... not not

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You gotta compare both in their prime MB!

    This message brought to you LatinaLovers State Association.


    "If there's more cushion, there's more push'n!"

  • Ha. No thanks. I'll leave her to you.

    I get 'to each his own' but honestly in this case, there just is no case (for the other chick)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think he has a great case, because I'd choose Vergara over Upton too (if I wasn't so busy boinking Marrissa Tomei and Liz Hurley). Here's why:

    1) Vergara is within my age range. I could accept her inevitable sexual advances without looking like a cradle robber.

    2) More booty. Better lips. Could possibly arrange threesome with hometown gurl Shakira, or keep me from getting fucked by Juan Valdez.

    3) Look how cute she is. Baby Jesus!

  • I honestly don't know what the fuck this is, but it's strangely mesmerizing:

    Oh, and I still think we need a pro-level LT and an inside guy with one of our 3's. I like addressing DB, but I think we're in more need of a real FS... that said, we need another viable corner too. Not sure what happened to Timmy J in the second half, but he looked as bad as he looked as good in the first half.

    We do need another DE, but we also need to figure something out at ILB AND OLB. This offseason CAN be a HUGE catalyst for a SB year, and many things seem to be pretty straight forward (like we finally need to pick up a #1WR), but it's also going to be a little tricky with our existing player contract issues. Going to be fun seeing if Emery was the right man for the gig.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

  • Wow- luckily we dont have anyone in the bottom 20. Kinda suprised GB has 2 and Tampa 3.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The vodka at the end of the clip explains a lot. Very cool.

    I agree with everything you posted. Irish keeps pounding away for a center and mlb but those are depth issues. We need to address starter issues and make a run, now.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Couldn't agree more Canada.


    Which are impact positions? Well, what are the three or four positions which are most highly paid?

    QB (check, FINALLY)
    DE (We got one then were a game away from the SB)
    LT (IF QB wants to stay alive, we need one)
    WR (The G-mens 3rd option would be our 1st)

  • I'd throw in a CB and Safety on that list too.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    It's weird Canada, but in our Cover 2, they're not as important as in the 3-4 defenses.

    Just look at the Jets. In order for their system to work, they NEED a Revis. Or look at the Steelers and Ravens. They NEED a HOF Safety in order to function.

    The Cover 2 can get by without Probowl CBs or Safeties. The pass rush in the Cover 2 is what determines its success, which explains why they went out and signed Pepp and why they kept drafting DEs and DTs in spade.

    The Cover 2 is a little weird in that the CBs must tackle a bit like S, while the S must cover a bit like CBs.

    That being said, when we do have a PB safety (with a PB DT) the system produces a lot of turnovers. Mike Brown types get interceptions, while Steltz types knock the ball down or make tackles.

  • EXACTLY!!!
    You read my mind.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    that's a frightening prospect.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nicely played.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Aha. We should only draft starters for next season? Come back and visit when Garza and Lac go down in the first game boys! Konz/Burfict would start one day, but they've got to be drafted high. We just can't say Urlacher and Garza have a couple years left and then wait a couple of years to draft their replacements - we need those guys now IMHO.

    We're looking at a roster that presents two very serious problems.

    Scenario 1 - pre-season. Garza gets injured. His backup is currently at RG, and hold the front page - he was rated the 28th best center in the league with the Seahawks and can't pass-protect. Alternatives? Edwin Williams ... who is not a center (neither was Garza admittedly). Result - bad news for the offense.

    Scenario 2 - pre-season. Lac gets injured. JT Thomas just got busted for waccy baccy. I don't even know who would go in for Lac. I know this. Whoever it is, they will suck at playing mike in the NFL. Hillen-night-meyer style. Result - we have no defense.

    We're not even set at OLB, quite apart from a Briggs injury. I'm still pissed we let go of Mark Anderson, he was begging to be honed as an OLB.

    Selling the draft for a Konz/Burfict scenario might seem like a 'future' deal and a waste right now, but I honestly think we're screwing ourselves if we don't invest now.

    Urgency comes in the WR/DE area - both fixable in free agency. We can't afford to play revolving doors at C/MLB the way we played musical safeties under Angelo for years. Those kind of dudes need to be drafted high and drafted soon.

  • I can solve the Graza problem.

    Webb,C.Williams,Spencer, Louis,Carimi

    Funny. No one is talking about where we are going to put Spencer or Louis this year.

    Everyone forget about BJ coming back play the RT means no Louis there.

  • Nah, Spencer sucks at center hence the Seahags dumping his ass. If he starts at center for us and you can call the season. I'm good with Lance playing anywhere on the line, especially over Webb. Are we even sold on Spencer yet ?

  • He started at guard and didn't do that bad.

    Tice started to like him towards the end of the season.


    great article

  • It's a good article. But in a draft that is flush with WR talent, and very little OL talent - are we going to go get Burfict or something with that pick?

    If Floyd is on the board then, I say you take him and deal him for OL talent, if you really think he's not ready after the combine.

  • You're not so much Superman, Artoo, more Jimmy Olsen :o)

  • Completely agree with that. Not interested in us starting some Knox-replacement who hangs Cutler out to dry because they can't run routes and it's all a bit new to them. We need, as the man says, to win in September.

    The window is closing. If there's a decent big-bodied receiver falls to us in the third, then cool ... but if a top tackle, top ten mike ... or Konz falls to us - bite hard.

  • Fuck, thoughts with Tommie:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Unfortunately she passed this morning. I feel for the guy. Just amrried a few weeks ago after having his second kid with her just in December or something. Thoughts and prayers.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Condolences to Tommie Harris and his two children.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No doubt. Tommie was terribly immature when he was with us but seemed like a genuinely nice guy. Hope he rebounds.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    He was a bit enigmatic. There are a few of those in the NFL. Barber is like that.

    I can't help but think that after he got injured, he became very disappointed. It's like a pianist losing a finger. Must suck.

    All best wishes to Tommie. If he or Mike Brown were in the SB, Lach and the rest would be sporting rings right now.

  • "Tim Bream, the Bears' head athletic trainer for the past 15 years, is leaving the team to take the same position at his alma mater, Penn State."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    same dude who trained up the GOAT?

    Remember when hester said in an interview a few years back, something like, "I haven't had to do a single leg workout since I left The U."

    I just smh. wtf is that shit? Good riddance douche…

    Maybe we'll get a guy who can stop all the injuries and the slow recoveries we seem to always have now. Don’t let the door hit your glutes on the way out meathead.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is that Gronk?

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1 he was not allowed to slide around the showers too much? and he missed it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    maybe he should of gone to the stretching area a long time ago..LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you ever click on what you thought was a Jay Cutler video and get Jay Cutler? champion bodybuilder? Here he is trying to turn off his fancy home a/v system:

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


    I thought maybe jay just put on a little extra weight this offseason buttsteak.

    I pick things up and I put them down.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I see your meathead version of jay cutler, and raise you this:

    Too bad I wasn't a photog in my youth, instead of, "Cristy, can you please take off your (fucking gay 80's wannabe) sunglasses and show us your beautiful eyes"

    I would have drunkenly blurted out... yeah, now take off your top and show us your perky little tits honey.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If you listen, you can hear a woman say disapprovingly, "... but she looks naked, doesn't she?" Her boyfriend responds, "Yeah, she looks great." Ha.

    OK, I'm going all in:

    (Sorry about the late response, btw. Migraines. They come in bunches and lately I've been sleeping them off.)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Makes you wonder how much coin PSU was throwing at about frying pan to the fire.

  • From the WTF File:

    I will just say one thing....... FUCK ME IF WE DON"T GET SOME REAL O-LINEMEN!!!!!!

    The old phrase comes to mind...if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck..guess what? IT'S A FUCKING DUCK!!!!!

    from the article:
    •J’Marcus Webb: The most maligned of the team’s tackles, Webb started his first season at left tackle after starting on the right side as a rookie. According to Pro Football Focus, Webb ranked as the worst full-time starter at his position in the NFL, and was responsible for 38 pressures.


    •Frank Omiyale: The Bears' second-most penalized offensive lineman, Omiyale was flagged seven times for 35 yards in 2011, resulting in three stalled drives.

    HEY ASS-GOBLIN...go bag groceries at Dominick's!!!!!

    I can't believe we are going into off season with the attitude "We Are All Set" for the line well just FUCK ME!!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Webb is a work in progress. Tice apparently sees something in the kid. He's big, I'll give him that. But this is his what - 4th year?

    A first round pick at OL should be competing for a Pro Bowl spot in his 4th year. The Packers got way more out of Beluga Whale at RT than we've ever gotten from Webb, and this is one area we can't blame on coaching.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    3rd year and 2nd year at LT.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    agree GP...they keep saying "He's a physical specimen" so was pool boy and see how that worked out for us...damn

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    But Pool Boy didn't even see the field. Tice believed in Webb enough to start the guy at LT for nearly the entire season.
    That's good enough for me to not be all jittery over LT as a position of need next year.
    I also don't understand the allure of Konz that some people have. Garza is no spring chicken but he was excellent at C last year.
    I am really not keen on spending the 1st rounder on OL again; it'll be a reach and we need D depth as much right now if not more than OL help.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Pool Boy. Muscles Paella. Jebus H........

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I agree Webb isn't a great option (not to mention OMG). I thought the interior of the line was good last year. I'm hoping Carimi is the real deal. I also think Tice will make these guys look way better this year on pass plays. Between giving them some help, rolling Cutler out and letting Cutler call audibles, I think that adds up to a quantum leap. I really hated "The Genius".

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Sorry Canada, but I cant drink this particular Kool-aid. The #1 need on the Bears is still offensive line.

  • In reply to SC Dave:


  • In reply to SC Dave:

    It's a bit of a leap of faith but I'm a half full kinda guy. I'd love to see an upgrade at LT but I just don't see it happening.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Believe me, I hope you're right man. I'm not disagreeing with your premise that it seems unlikely they will go after a LT, but I suppose it depends on whether or not our new GM thinks the current crop has any toughness.

    I hope that Emery means it, and is not just shrewdly playing the "grabowski" side of the fan base. Instilling old-school toughness back into the Bears was Ditka's greatest accomplishment as HC.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm in your boat Canada. It would be nice to have a premier LT (I still think that could be Lance - he certainly couldn't do any worse).

    Tice will be the key. Chipping, smarter play-calling tailored to the strengths and weaknesses of the line/Cutty. The roll-outs. Shorter pass routes. Audibles !!

    Competition for LT is important though, and - ahem - a backup/future center. The center will need a mentor. Angelo failed in tht respect. Olin should have been .mentoring a padawan

  • I'm not sure that he wasn't; Garza stepped in without a hitch from his guard spot. I wish he had done it a year earlier, to be honest.
    My concern with Louis at LT is what I stated earlier; in theory, Webb was facing much better pass rushers then LL, and Louis dropped off in the last third of the season. I hope it can be chalked up to wear and tear and not because he was exposed as weak in pass protection.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I love Tice, but sometimes I wonder if he (like Martz) has too much confidence in his coaching. Tice has stated that unless a "stud" LT falls to them at 19, he's fine with Webb (reality be damned).

    Like John Lenin said, "I'm an artist. Give me a tuba and I'll get you something out of it". Well, Tice has got a big fat tuba at LT.

    There's also another saying

    "Pride cometh before the fall" in this case, it can be literal as in Cutler falling with the rest of our season.

  • You never know. They could have Webb on the Lyle Alzedo diet for the summer and dude comes back a beast.

  • I don't beleive Tice thinks Webb is all that - he's being diplomatic. You don't get many 7th round picks playing in Hawaii for a reason. The dude cannot pass-protect because he's too big and slow and there's no way around it. What's the point of having a LT that needs help every time you pass the ball? Chris Williams used to manhandle this season's sackmaster. What happened there ? If we could answer that question and put him back where he belongs - is Webb any better ? Then you have competition at guard, and could even sit Spencer so he can do his job of backing-up Garza .. on the bench with Webb.

    CW - EW - Garza - LL - GC

  • He manhandled him once, Irish. And then he got torn up the beginning of the next season. I wish he had been the long-term answer at LT. That's certainly what we drafted him for. If Webb isn't the guy at LT, I have full faith in Tice to make sure it's fixed before next August. If he's starting, then Tice obviously sees something in him that our untrained eyes do not.

  • Well, I haven't been around much lately, as it's pack up our shit and move time... so, likely someone may have posted this... but I find it incredibly amusing -


    Peyton's face x NFL logos

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault: fav if the Saints...looks like it's from the movie......Aliens

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    pretty clever actually.

    the bears one gave me the willies (see how I did that). Just creepy.

  • interesting read re: NFCN team parity and how FA this year will effect it:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice summary of NFCN. I still think we're the best division even with the Vikes who are in every game, but just can't seem to close games out. We have 3 PB QBS imo, some HOFs at LB, DE, CB etc.

    The Vikings intrigue me. Do they seriously think Ponder is the future? Joe Webb to me gave them more of a spark. If they don't believe in either, they can always pick RG3 this year and trade either Ponder or Joe Webb for picks. Hell, they can trade down for someone who does want RG3 and draft a franchise LT and WR to go with Peterson.

    And while on the topic, how effective will Peterson be? and more importantly, how will that effect his fantasy value? :P

    The Los Angeles Vikings...since I live in L.A. I kinda want that to happen so I can see my Bears beat them once a year live!

    Yes please.

  • If anyone can come back from that injury it will be AP. I'd have to guess his top speed will be gone. Tough spot for the BiQueens. Webb reminds me of their old QB T. Jackson. Lots of talent, always on the cusp of being good but never getting over the hump. Although TJ waxed us last year. Sigh. Ponder? Who knows? Glad it's not our problem. I'd be surprised but not shocked if the Queens left town.

  • If the Queens go to L.A., will they stay in the central division?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    NFC North.. i meant north

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Maybe they go to the west and St. Louis comes to the North...

    I'd prefer, and I know this won't happen, the Vikes go to the AFC West, and we get the Chiefs in the NFC North.

    There's no way in hell they break up that division, but I'd kill to have the Bears play 3 hours away every year.

    Would the NFL break up our division though? I'm guessing we just travel further.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    The Chiefs are a stalwart of the AFC, having represented them in early Super Bowls. No way they move to the NFC.

    The RAMS, otoh, switching with the Vikes if the Vikes go to L.A. makes sense. That switches an indoor dome team with another dome team.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    If that happened after I lived in Omaha for ten years and then moved to the East Coast, I'd fucking lose my shit.
    It's bad enough the frigging NFC East road game this year will be in DALLAS?!?!?
    I might have to drive to Tennessee to see the Titans game.

  • I'll take a ponder or Joe Webb any old day.

  • Alshon Jeffery was listed at 229 pounds at South Carolina. Now he's reportedly at 249

  • Artoo you are just freaking crazy with the info these days...

    That twitter thing created a monster!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I want to know what his grade point average has done.

    Stay in those books boy!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My GPA is up.

    I actually won another scholarship. I am tired of mediocre talent Willie, if I can scout and find good players. Our gm should be able to too.

  • good job lad, good job.

  • Artoo, you may talk your way into working with a scouting service for a little bit after you graduate. It's the right time to do it and you enjoy this stuff. Keep making contacts on twitter and cultivate those relationships as best you can.

  • ok, so that's a no on him.

    I have this theory... fat people are lazy. Sorry. I said it. they just are. I've proven it to myself over years with exposure to employees and coworkers. Sorry if I’ve offended anyone, and if I have, I suggest you stop being lazy and get your fat ass on an exercise and diet regimen.

    Unless there's an actual medical reason, it is 100% the truth. Have you ever watched the biggest looser? you put those people into a fucking bootcamp environment where they literally can… not… eat garbage and sit on their ass all day and they lose like 200 fucking lbs.

    But I digress... so no thanks on his fat, lazy ass. (I know, I've said too much already)

    [[ no packer fans were harmed in the making of this post ™ ]]

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ha Ha - the correct term MB is "Big Boneded".

    You wanna hear the weirdest lazy ppl theory I ever heard?

    My great aunt thinks ppl with beards are lazy. I guess in her 1920s logic (she's nearing 100 yrs old), folks who don't bother shaving don't bother doing anything else lol

  • CARTMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB my favorite sister is tubby. She works harder than almost anyone I know. Her metabolism is the shits. If she takes in more than 1,000 calories a day she gains weight.

    I know what you're getting at and I mostly agree with ya. But like any stereotype there's a lot of truth to it and some bullshit. BTW, I'd rather poke out my eyes than watch the biggest loser.

    Love the disclaimer at the end of your post.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Like I sadi Canada, unless there's a legit medical condition.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    In my experience of me and those I know, 90%+ of the battle is about what we eat - we all know so many people that actually exercise a lot and still carry a lot of fat.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'll bet real money your sister has a thyroid deficiency. Yeah sure, some GP or endocrinologist who sitting squarely in the box ran some tests and she's "within the range". BS, she needs more. Pass this web site on to her, CB:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You can't always judge a book by its cover MB. I've spent most of my life doing landscaping and tree work. I've hired many football players and other athletes. I live in a college town. The only "physical specimens" worth anything were former farm boys. The rest have no endurance to work 10-12 hour days. I usually end up firing them. More often than not, a skinny 110 lb. girl or a fat farm boy can slug more sod and be more productive in a day than than a college football player. Never worked with an athlete who could run a chainsaw or haul wood for 12 hours in a day, much less 4 hours. Fat farm boys and skinny white boys run them into the ground every time. The only athletes worth their salt are usually track people.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Huh, interesting corm.

    I guess the computer/software industry has a different brand of fat people... you know, the lazy ones.

    btw, it was a totally personal observation based on personal experience, and was most certainly a generalization.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know where your coming from, just making a different observation. I do work for local Walmarts and other stores, so I know what your talking about. Most of those people using the carts in the store or using the handicap spots are fat, lazy people.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    My family is farm folk on one side and you are absolutely right. Being "cut" has zero to do with how well you can hold up doing the backbreaking physical labor and dealing with the mental aspect too.
    If you need some tough labor done, gimme one of my German volk from the Ohio River valley or downstate Illinois that weigh 300 lbs and are only 6 ft tall. They may eat more egg noodles and beef in one setting than Kobayashi could pull off but they can also throw around concrete block like it's styrofoam.
    I am ex-track/cross country so I just tried not to get in the way when there was lifting to be done but I got my work ethic from them.

  • I don't know what would make me more sick, being on a fucking boat that's doing that, or playing pool on a table that's doing that.!

    ... and we still can't find a fucking cure for cancer. Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, a little parody about a music topic you brought up recently.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Thanks corm, that was funny.

    I left something for you up top under the header, 'boobies'

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I saw Gilbert Gottfried do an impression of Bob Dylan getting his haircut by Floyd the Barber (Andy Griffith). By the end of the bit I had tears in my eyes and was blowing snot bubbles. The sound stage crew were all laughing so hard you could hear them.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I would love to see that. Andy Griffith is one of my favorite shows.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thats the same technology that made it possible for the segway to be invented just so the companies owner could then drive himself off a cliff with one.

  • @ErikGrogan Just in @nfllive per @johnclayton says #Bears shld go aft @BMarshall19 via trade 4 WR? Ur definitely on 2 smthg!

    So, John Clayton thinks it would be a great idea to get Marshall.

    Go figure.

  • John Clayton looks like he should win some world's ugliest dog contest, but seriously. Brandon Marshall would be nice, but the dolphins gave up two 2nd round picks for Marshall, something im guessing Emery doesn't want to do in his 1st year. The guy has been evaluating college talent his entire career so it just doesn't make sense to think he wants to trade any picks away. It's probably never going to happen. VJax, Bowe or another FA WR seem much more likely to happen, especially if Knox is done.

  • In reply to Shady:

    A third and a player to Miami would do it.

    I do agree. One of the things Emery said was how well he knows this draft and who is good or bad.

  • In reply to Shady:

    But Marshall would only cost us 6 million a year and probably puts us in the super bowl. V-jax wants 10.

  • JT Thomas arrested this afternoon for smoking ganj in the open.

    He's shaping up as Glitchy's last bust

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This guy has been doing some great stuff for kids.

    Very sad that he got busted with marijuana.

  • great stuff for kids... like taking one to prom?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Like you never got a prom date high? If not, either your ship was in or you weren't trying hard enough!!!!!!!!!

    Have I said too much?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He has been traveling over the U.S. helping kids with epilepsy and other problems.

  • The crime that's not a crime.

    Alcohol - the most destructive drug on the planet - remains legal because it's taxable. What a world we live in.

  • Legal because it's taxable? No, it's taxable because it's legal. And it's legal because it's a socially acceptable drug for a long laundry list of historical reasons, vs. some of the others we could list off (mind you, I'm not saying all of those reasons hold equal weight). If marijuana, just as an example, becomes socially acceptable enough, it gets legalized and then becomes taxable. I think it's evident that we're reaching that tipping point in the US, at least in more socially liberal communities.
    "Destructive" is also pretty subjective - we'd have to sort out what measure we're using to define that. Lord knows that, say, Russia is a great case study in what alcohol abuse can do to the health and welfare of a country.
    BTW I'm not advocating one way or the other on legalization of pot; it's not my thing...but the parallels between the current situation and the original prohibition of alcohol in the US are strikingly similar (although not identical).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think there's a big difference between Alcohol Prohibition and the "WAR ON DRUGS". The war on drugs has been much more harmful. The US has the highest incarceration rate in the world among "free" countries, and violent crime prosecution rates have dropped dramatically due to law enforcement resource allocation. Drug prohibition also dramatically increases violent crime rates, and not just in the US. We've turned Columbia, parts of Peru, and parts of Mexico into Narco States. It's crazy stupid policy.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I don't disagree on any of those points.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No drug comes close to alcohol for the sheer number of people that get affected by it. It's only socially acceptable because it's legal, if we were starting classifying drugs from scratch I don't think it would be legal. A bunch of stoned people are way safer than a bunch of boozed up people. Alcohol brings out the worst in people and a lot of things happen which aren't good as a result - and there it is every two minutes during the superbowl.

    Drink up kids, it's legal.

  • Irish, I hate to tell you this but drinking was socially acceptable even when it was illegal here for the better part of a decade. That's why it was so damn profitable. It didn't lose its allure or place at social events just because of a little thing like federal prosecution.

    Alcohol brings out the worst in -some- people, particularly when they go overboard with it.

    Different people have different reactions to different chemicals. What works for you or doesn't work for you, has not a whole lot to do with me. That's as true of prescription drugs as it is of banned substances.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I watched the '85 Bears win the Superbowl in a bar near where Thomas was arrested. Later that year I was myself arrested, on a BS charge of public drunkenness, in the same area. It was BS because at the time, in the Sunnyside section of Morgantown, on a weekend, EVERYBODY was drunk. It was like a block party. The sidewalks were literally impassable. You had to walk along the side of the road if you wanted to switch bars or go to a restaurant. Cop caught me and a friend on the road, tossed us in a squad car, locked us up for the night, and fined us a combined $300.00. That's how the city generated revenue.

    You don't have to be high to drive the wrong way on a one-way street in Morgantown, or any town in NW WV or SW PA. It's a region of blind knolls and narrow, poorly illuminated and poorly marked, winding roads that once were horse trails. Even in Pittsburgh, few streets are laid out in a logical grid the way they are in Chicago.

    You have to assume the cops gave Thomas a breathalyser. It seems likely, since they found weed in the car, that they gave him a drug test also. I wonder if the misdemeanor possession charge against Thomas will turn out to include DUI?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Agreed, particularly on the Pittsburgh traffic grid. It is insane in the city, and worse in the backwoods outside of the downtown area.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Jesus, Pittsburgh. I once studied a Pgh bus map to get to a place 2 transfers and 4 circuitous miles away, only to find that I had travelled 4 blocks from my starting point. The street changed names 4 times in a fucking loop.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I thought my GPS was going to have a stroke when I drove from the airport to downtown - even the highways don't match up with what the nav system was looking for.

  • Lions are rumored to be interested in aggressive and some say dirty corner back Cortland Finnegan if the Titans don't bring him back.

    Why are the Bears not pursing or even thinking about V.Jackson? They must be looking at someone else.. Marshall..come out to play..Marshall...

  • That fucking low life, cheap shot artist would fit right in with that bunch.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I was thinking the same thing. I don't want that guy anywhere near our locker room.

  • The Lions are in cap trouble - so we could nick one of their players.

  • I think southpark is one of the best things ever, btw:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Loved the cool down spray!

  • alalalalalalalalalala!

  • In reply to Shady:

    Brutal, Shady.

  • My feelings on some of the "trade picks" discussion.

    I'm not a big baseball guy, but I think Theo Epstein is absolutely fascinating to listen to when he talks about his sport. He understands how to develop a team through the minors and I believe in his philosophy when he talks.

    Emery is a scout just the same. If his strength is to build one of the best scouting programs in the NFL, and to dedicate our assets to that effort, then we need to buy in to that philosophy.

    What does that mean? That means we trade a cap liability (Briggs could be an example of that) for picks rather than another player. We trade our draft picks for more picks rather than vets. We trust Emery to find WRs that can start in year 1 from the draft, even if not at a probowl level, rather than sacrificing depth for an overpriced trade. For that reason, I stay away from trading two picks to get Marshall.

    Good GMs see the value in FA pickups. And we have anywhere from 2 to 5 WR spots that need to be filled this off-season. So free agency is a way to do that... but the focus needs to be the draft.

    I think we can use our top 4 picks, plus rounds 4&5 to trade up or build depth, and come out with some substantial improvements this off-season. I posted last thread: Interior OL in round 1 (Konz), a DE, LB and CB in Rounds 2-4, Other Round 3 for a WR, and use the 5th rounder to get trade position. Use our cap space to get another FA WR and we're suddenly looking decent. If you trust Emery, we suddenly see youth on the D, a better O-line and a better recieving corpse.

    Trade both 3rd rounders for Marshall, use the 1st on another WR, and the 2nd on an interior OL, and you've just lost a lot of that defensive depth Emery could have drafted.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Hopefully that corpse will include Roy Williams being buried as a Bear. Sorry, nb, couldn't let it go. :)

    Actually, I very much like your scenario, and hope to see something like that happen. There is no substitute for a good line.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Dave, you're a very bad man.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Totally agree about letting Emery use his scout skills in the draft. Wouldn't that be a pleasant change of events?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Now that's the shit I'm talking about NBIT. Yessir. Although we need only trade one pick for Marshall if we give them back a player - say any receiver bar Bennett.

  • Where you at Irish? I usually stay up to read your comments.

  • That's a first. Sometimes I need to plug out of the internet and attend to that 'life' thing. Everyone in the house is sick right now, except me, cos I have to make the dollars. But bless you my son ....

  • Haha, why is everyone sick there? Your not making my idea of moving there sound so good.

    Diarrhea is not fun. I wouldn't know but...

  • My new nanny came back from Cambodia with her ten month old baby, and brings it over to show off. The kid's dripping with snot and coughing and I just knew. Sure enough, a few days alter, my kids are in and out of hospital with mega-snot, diaharrea, coughing, green-ye goo and fevers. Then the girlfriend gets it, the nanny gets it ....

    But hey, remember you would be a king over here Artoo, your only competition for the cutest chicks on the planet are a bunch of fat 60 year-old ex-pats. Living costs are cheap - if you even just want to take a year out, it wouldn't cost that much.

  • Possible draft for the Bears if we do not get a WR in FA.

    1 - Michael Floyd (WR)
    2 - Kelechi Osemele (G) [trading up using 4th round pick in exchange for a 6th]
    3* - Cam Johnson (DE)
    3 - Terrell Manning (LB)
    4 - Traded
    5 - Chris Givens (WR)
    6* - Jack Crawford (DE)
    6 - Risard Matthews (WR/PR)
    7 - Brandon Barden (TE)

    FA - Jared Gaither (LT, Chargers) - $9 million
    FA - Brandon Carr (CB, Chiefs) - $4.5 million
    FA - Richard Marshall (CB/S, Cardinals) - $1.5 million
    FA - Kyle Orton (QB, KC) - $2 million
    FA - Erin Henderson (OLB, Vikings) - $1.5 million

    Leaving approx $12 million to pay Forte and other current FAs. Give Briggs an extra $1.5 million this year instead of next with a 2 year extension. Give Forte about $6 million for the year. Keep the other $4.5 to pay other players as needed.

    Pros - A lot of youth for the D, possibly major upgrades on O-line, first round talent at WR, rockstar players at backup QB and CB.

    Cons - Only one true starter added at WR, no upgrade at TE or backup RB. Cap space becomes an issue fast. LT pickup could be a waste due to injury.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Think Orton works for $2mill next year? I doubt it. I would be very surprised if Orton and Campbell don't start, or at least compete for starting possitions.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Honestly, probably not. A couple of those FA moves require a smallish contract, but we can't spend more than $2 million on a backup QB, which is why we probably won't get Orton.

    Orton and Campbell will be best put somewhere where a rookie needs a veteran backup to possibly start the first few games of a season or maybe even the entire first season (kinda like Hasselback is doing in front of Blaine Gabbert). If Peyton leaves Indy, then the Colts could be a good destination for either of those guys.

    But we're not in that situation and $2 million is the most we can dedicate to a back QB. I think Drew Staunton might be another option, but it depends on how Orton and Campbell fair in terms of interest.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Orton for 2 or even 3 would be the sale of the century. Cementing the most important position on the team has been the least addressed on the blog. If we have Orton at #2 last season, those blue benders aren't in the SB, we are. Probably. Maybe. I don't know, but we'd look a whole lot better.

  • For you Irish, my next off-season projection will feature Burfect in the first round.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Cos that's what better happen, bro. No Konz or Burfict (or stud LT) and I'll puke a nut.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    NB, I like your draft but you left off key elements in FA. I will not trust a rookie reciever to come in and be a #1 receiver, especially with the 19th pick. Also, we need a solid D-end to compliment Peppers. Idonije just doesn't cut it. I want Bowe to solidify the receiving corp. The guy put up over 1,000 yards with Ricky Stanzi throwing to him a good part of the season. At D-end that's where I don't know where the Bears could go. I like Avril and I love Mario Williams. However, what are the chances of being able to sign a star D-end and Bowe. I'm not an expert on the salary cap but with all the FA's the Bears have to sign of their own plus draft picks I can't see enough cap space to sign everyone they need. I do like that you went Gaither in FA though. I can't watch Webb get Cutler killed anymore.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    JAB1, that list was specifically written assuming we can't get a FA wide reciever - assume all the good ones are either franchised or picked up elsewhere for too much money, whatever. So we use #19 on our best shot at a starter and pick up 2 more in the later rounds for depth (hoping one will be able to get 30-35 catches this year).

    As for D-End, notice I draft one high in the third and another later on, plus we would keep Izzy; not ideal but you can't have everything. Avril and Mario might both get franchised or priced out of our range.

    The big FA pickups in this scenario would be at CB (Carr) and LT (Gaither); if we can pull off both of those it would be a huge upgrade but there would absolutely not be money leftover for a blockbuster DE.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Sorry, but We need playmakers no a bunch of fillins

  • Hey how u guys doin'?

    What i would like to see this offseason:
    - Sign Forte
    - 2 free agents for immediate upgrades on WR and DL
    - Draft: Add OL (preferably a LT), WR, LB en CB with our first 4 picks in rounds 1 to 3. Starting from 4th round, it's a complete waste of time to even speculate imo.

    For the free agents, i'd like:
    - WR --> Colston: read an article that Saints have Brees and their pro bowl OL to sign, so i say make this guy feel wanted, and he can be gotten. Top WR, and we weaken the Saints.
    - Avril from DET would be a nice option if possible.

    Now, i'm not sure we'll get to be able to do all three with our cap. Colston should be our nr 1 priority though.

    From the draft:
    - Im not a fan of drafting a WR in the 1st round. too tricky, and with my plan we already got Colston. I'd go with the dude from Georgia tech, Stephen Hill. I'd think with can get him with our first pick in the 3rd round. He's big (6-5), got speed, big hands, and upside.
    - First round for me needs to be trenches: either DE or OL. If Mike Adams is there and Tice likes him, go for it. Otherwise best DE available.
    - next three picks, like is said: best available LB, CB, WR (in Emery i trust, for now)

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Oh i forgot: of course, get a backup QB through FA.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Ah, but who ? Garrard? Flynn? J Webb?

    Also, Burfict is called a top-ten talent that will drop. Can we afford to say no at #19?

  • I am interested in Burfict at #19.
    It makes you start thinking alot more seriously about moving Briggs, that's for sure.

  • Flynn will be way too expensive. I actually like the Garrard idea, if he is ok with being a backup.

    And if somebody drops that you can't pass up...i say draft talent over need. Unless it's a MAJOR need and the guy that fits isnt a reach at that slot.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Two biggest issues I see with your plan:
    - I could see both Avril and Colston get retained by their teams.
    - There just isn't a LT available in round 1 at our position. Tackle is a thin spot in the draft this year. But otherwise I like your plan.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    There could be a LT available in Mike Adams (Ohio State I believe). I don't know if he lasts that long, but he could be a good pick up.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yeah, Avril is a reach, i know. That's just my ideal plan. As long as we're dreaming, let's dream big :-)

    But on Colston, i see him hitting FA, no tag, and from there on out, it's on. I mean if you're the saints, and you got to deal with Brees and much can you even spend on him?

    And if no LT (Adams) either you draft a DE, or a falling talent at other needs OR trade down.
    And in that case , i'd just give Tice what he wants, and gamble on Webb. One more season of helping him out with TE's, RB's and scheme. and see how he grows.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Stephen Hill ! Now if he can do this for us, he might be the guy. Third round. I like. Good call.

    This is the very definition of stretching the field. 95% of those balls land out of bounds.

  • 5 thoughts:
    1. Would love Vjax or Bowe in FA. Would love Marshall, too, but not likely.
    2. We need an established No. 1, which means avoid Manningham. Don't underestimate the value of Nicks and Cruz in that Giants run. I'm not sold Manningham would make the huge catches against top corners. We can't afford to spend big money on another 2nd or 3rd WR without a no. 1.
    3. No, no, no, and no again to Moss. Saw a blogger say this would be a good pickup since his production in his last year would still have been second on the Bears. He played for 3 teams that year...he didn't have it then, he sure as hell won't now. If he had it then, he wouldn't have moved so many times and been cut by desperate teams like the Titans and Vikings. The Patriots obviously need a deep threat, so if they cut him...Also don't need the circus that would come with Moss.
    4. Tice as OC will dramatically help the line. We were 7-3 before the injuries with Martz calling plays and not helping the tackles enough. With smarter play-calling (designed roll-outs, help on obvious pass plays, shorter drops, etc.), we can win with what we have. Also have to remember we lost 2 linemen to injuries along with Cutty and Forte. I'd still draft a lineman for the future, but Carimi will hopefully stay healthy this year and give us the boost we didn't get last year.
    5. If we can get WR in FA and draft another, I'd focus a lot of the other picks on defense. Urlacher, Briggs, Peanut, and Peppers are still balling, but when the fade comes, it will come without warning, and we can't afford to lose a step in our Tampa 2 system.

  • On the Forte thing .... are we happy signing Forte for the big dollars when he's had two serious knee injuries? We could franchise him, and flog him for a first and a second, happy days. Running backs come cheaper in the draft these days, you can get right bargains in the second round.

  • Yes, yes we are. Forte isn't just a running back, he's 40% of our offense last year. Chris Williams's career was saved because Forte knows how to work mastefully with a pulling guard. Jay Cutler looked awesome throwing to top tier possession guy (Bennett) and a running back (Forte)... without any real recieving threat that means Bennett and Forte are really good at what they do. The Lions and the Pats both suffered tremendously for the lack of a running game. We can't be those teams.

    But I am conscious of the 30 year rule for RBs, which is why I wouldn't be against a U shaped contract (bonus in year 1, big money in years 5 and 6, with a dip in the middle). That way he's playing happy, but if production drops off, we'll have some warning before his next big payday.

  • I unfortunately agree with this tact.

  • I do agree. Do not sign this man to a long term deal.

    Franchise him.

  • This would go against the Bears (former?) philosophy of rewarding your own, and would send a message to all RB that might wish to sign with the Bears in the future to hold out season one because these guys are not going to pay.

    I think it is a *very* bad idea to fail to write Forte a decent contract. nb proposes a way to structure the contract that makes sense to me.

  • And we can franchise him the following year too at 120%.

  • If we do that then we need to trade him.

  • right, Tag the guy.

  • You mean all 50 members of Allen's Mega Pussy Posse will have to get new jobs? No more VIP on the Swole?

    There goes the good news on the unemployment rate....

  • Coming out of 8th grade, I was a lazy fucker. I thought since I played soccer and could run, I was fit and all that.

    My dad made me do 3 summers on a road crew doing survey work and digging holes. 3 fucking hot summers of 12 hour days.

    What happens is a Gladwell 'Tipping Point', where it's not strength or explosiveness or anything, it's just being as Gustav Hasford says.. hard. You can work and work and just go all day, you don't stop and you rarely get tired. It's fucking awful to get there, but it's good once you do. I almost got killed that first summer falling asleep at the wheel, only some deep well of reserve woke me up before I hit a tree. So it's a PITA getting there, but getting there means you can work hard and it has nothing to do with how defined your muscles are - although you get pretty fucking scrappy. At the end of that last summer, I think I was 6'3" and about 160lbs.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Correction that was my 3rd summer, junior year when I had my driver's license.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Funny... I think a lot of what you are saying applies to parenting. Good parents aren't neccesarily full of energy or brilliant or even especially interesting people. They're just always on... they learn to be completely dedicated to the task at hand from getting the kids fed in the morning to putting them to bed at night. They always make time to listen to their kids, and they always put their kids first. Its emotionally exhausting, its physically draining, and getting their requires tremendous sacrifice. But once you're there, you know you're a great parent.

    And hopefully you decide to buy a Volvo in case you don't notice that tree in time. There are like 50 airbags in those things.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    gotta be careful with this one NB... 'always put their kids first'. That can and does put serious strain on a marriage - unless you don't want or need any attention/sex/focus.

    There HAS to be ballance (like everything in life), and unfortunately I just don't think this is part of the deal for a lot of 'good' moms.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB you are absolutely correct. But I've seen couples that consistently put themselves having fun over their kids... it starts to show after a while. Its a tricky balance, but the way I see it you are doing your family a favor by taking time for yourself sometimes. Kinda like leaving work in the middle of the day for a trip to the gym - counterintuitive to be gone for an hour when you're busy, but it makes for a better quality afternoon.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    100% on both accounts NB.

    I wouldn't suggest the super mom route to new parents, being super mom is awesome, but it doesn't leave much room for even clark kent wife.

    In the end, if the marriage gets taxed, the family gets taxed. Balance is critical both ways.

    Don't mention the gym, going on my second week of being sick. damn it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I guess it comes down to whose first. You or your kids. Those mothers who insist on having their own life, fuck them. I've accepted that my own personal life is over now that I have kids. I had my time, and I wasted most of it in bars.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Amen MB.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    there it is.

    I've found that people who've played organized football into and through high school and were in leadership positions (starters, captains, etc...) are a lot of the time very hard workers and are mentally tougher than those who haven't played sports or worked hard doing manuel labor at a young age.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My Grandfather was a coal miner for 40 years. Most of that time he worked underground, with pick and shovel. He was never a muscular guy. At the age of 85, he could still out-hoe and out-dig me in his half-acre garden. I worked much faster, but in the end, he always got more done (and he had black lung and a bad leg from a compound fracture in mine collapse, and I was 20 yo). I had a similar experience working as a roofer with an ex-golden gloves lightweight. Thin little middle-aged guy, made me look drunk trying to keep up.

    The kind of pounding your body takes doing hard labor is very different from the stress you put on your muscles working out. It's similar to the difference between an exercise regimen geared to football and an actual football game.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Crunch, I'd put money on it that your Grandpa had many injuries during his career. He probably blew out a few discs in his back and had some shoulder disc problems among others. It's amazing how the body can heal itself if you work through the problems through mental toughness and activity.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    He had no choice, Fifth. He had six children. The company owned his house, his property, the town, and its only store. It controlled the government and police. It was work or starve.

    I'm sure he worked hurt. He was buried alive twice that I know of, once with a crushed leg. Others died in those cave-ins. God knows what happened to their children.

    Last I saw, Harlan County USA was available on NetFlix and HuluPlus. You can watch it at Dailymotion via the links below. It documents events that occurred in Kentucky in the 1970's, but it's pretty horrifying nevertheless. I can only imagine what coal mining must have been like in the 1920's, when my grandfather started. He never talked about it (he never talked about anything).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    holy shit that's just horrific stuff. And I whine about a shitty day at my work. Sheesh.

    I can't even fathom one day without light, never mind every fucking day... and that's not even talking about all the dangers.

    That dude singing is actually 28.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    At least miners get good pay and benefits these days. It took 100 years of fighting National Guardsman and Pinkerton goons armed with tommy guns, though.

    You might like the movie Matewan, directed by John Sayles (90% on Rotten Tomatoes). It's based on real events that took place in the coal fields of WV in the 1920s.

    It's on youtube, but the quality isn't the greatest (not bad though).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Crunch, both of my Grandpa's started as lumberjacks at 14 in Upper Michigan, and one of them was a farmer and iron ore miner. The latter died from Black Lung Disease at 90, but he had emphysema for the last 17 years of his life from farming, working in the mines, and WW2. His Dad died from the influenza epidemic in 1920 when he was 4, and he got his 1st jobs at 6. At 6, he was in charge of cleaning the school and starting the fire in the morning, and he also helped a neighbor moonshine besides his farm chores. At 14, he was in charge of running the farm and plowing the fields behind a horse. He was a wiry 6'3" but had the largest fingers and hands I've ever seen. He was the toughest guy I ever met and the funniest. He's legendary among my friends for his humor. My Grandma's still around and she's just as tough and funny as him. Both immigrants who don't understand giving up, they've both been on their deathbed many times and always make it back. My Grandpa never said his goodbyes until the VA told him he would never go home again. My Grandma was told she had less than 6 months to live about 5 years ago due to cancer. She laughed at the Doctor. She's still got the potty mouth of a drunken sailor. After her chemo, when she would wear a Harley Davidson doo rag, she told the doctors she wanted to have surgery to get rid of the colostomy bag. The doctors said there's no way you will survive the surgery. She said fuck that, then I'd rather die. Sure as shit, she survived the surgery and is doing good now.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Prohibition era juvenile delinquents in the family, I see. Me too, on my father's side.

    You've probably read Ken Kesey's "Sometimes a Great Notion," but if not, you won't be disappointed. It's about a logging family in the Pacific Northwest who's motto is "Never Give an Inch," and the difference between strenth and weakness. The plot is a little anti-union, so more your cup of tea than the stuff I linked above. But it's one of the great American novels of all time, imo. It's what I think about when I think of logging. That, and my own near-death experiences with a chainsaw.

    Don't bother with the movie, btw.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I grew up in a Union family, but the Unions went too far and got too powerful, especially the government unions. The biggest problems with unions today is they don't look within and get rid of the duds. Instead, they protect them at all costs, even though this mentality puts many businesses under water and screws the good workers. I'm not saying that about mining unions, because most of them got shit for pensions. It was organized theft as far as I'm concerned. I haven't read Kesey's book, but I got a lot out of the book Night Comes to the Cumberlands. I learned a lot about property rights and mining rights from this book.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Government is a special case. Coal mining is also very different from manufacturing in that mining companies can't relocate to China when the workers get too demanding. Instead they blast entire mountains to extract the coal with a minimum of manpower. On the bright side, every mountaintop removed and bedrock fracked lowers my electricity bill (sarcasm).

  • Trivia Truth:

    Before Whitney hooked up with thugster Bobby Brown and started doing the crack pipe, her boyfriend she dumped to go with Bobby was the historically underrated black running QB, the Vick before Vick was Sick - Randall Cunningham.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Damn GP...totally forgot about that..

  • If we don't get one of the big time free agent receivers I would take Moss. We have a franchise QB with no one for him to throw the ball to! How many more years do you want to waste Cutler?

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    you sir, are smoking crack. Moss should not even be a possibility. the guy is not only a cancer (just ask chilly), but he's done.

    Speaking of crackers... are you the old racist JB?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's so cracker he's saltine.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I had to do it:

    The greatest Whitney Houston comedy bit I've seen. I saw this shit 8 years ago back when he was funny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd like Vjacks, Bowe, Johnson or Colston (in that order). If none of them were to happen would you be OK with what we have right now? I sure as fuck wouldn't and would take a shot on Moss. That was my point and no I'm not this old racist JB you speak of......

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    1. that's good. He was outdated.

    2. Vjax - That's a puff piece, but pretty much the sentiment here. We'll see. I'd love him too, but the guy's an ahole and he's expensive.

    2. Bowe - I don;t know why, but I'm not sold on him as a Vjax/marshall/anquan level guy. Just a gut feeling. But emery does have the inside track and I would imagine this is very possible.

    3. Johnson is becoming my #1 choice. He's also an asshole, but not on the legal level of vjax. He's also SUPER young and he's the only guy this last year who beat the shit out of revis island. I think becoming a bear would be a very good thing for him (and vice versa obviously). He’ll be a LOT cheaper than any of the others you mentioned.

    4. Colston – I know he’s been injured a lot and is getting older, there’s also the brees and 3 other amazing receivers thing up in Nola, so you don’t really know. He’d obviously be a huge upgrade to anything we have.

    5. What about M. Floyd? He’s at least in the #2 or 3 spot for me. Great guy, hard worker, big, playmaking guy who works hard under the radar and won’t command huge sums

    It all comes down to price for me I guess. There is no doubt we need a legit #1 WR this year or emery will get panned hardcore, basically there is no way he won’t pick up a #1. He HAS to. So, the question really becomes JB, can we get two of those guys for the price of a vJax? I think if we go Stevie AND M. Floyd we potentially can get two #1s for the price of one. Shit, we can use that spare #3 or even a #4 to sweeten a deal and keep some cash.

    So, that’s my pick, final answer… stevie Johnson AND Floyd.

    NB, how much will that cost us?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I do like M. Floyd and I'd be more than OK with him and Stevie. I would think to get both of them it would come at a pretty steep price but the organization has the $$$ and it's about time they give Cutler some weapons.

    What's with you calling me JB again? Are you saying I'm racist????

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    Answer carefully, MB. Jersey boy, could be from Kearney. Could be packing.

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    no, i't faster that writing out your handle... I don't even remember the other dude's actual handle anyway.

    He's been gone a couple years so you're good there vinny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I got ya, all good. I prefer Pauly D though. LOL

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    "What the hell do you know about surfing, Major? You're from goddamned New Jersey! "

    - Col. Kilgore

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    I'll tell you what, if he was cheap enough, it's not like we wouldn't have the space - the guy is #2 on the all-time TD receptions list after all. Is our WR roster that laoded with talent we couldn't find a spot for him? If his legs are still there ..... it might be worth kicking his tires.

    The fact that three teams have told him to fk off in one year though .....

  • If we don't get a top FA WR, then yes, Moss would be worth a look just to improve upon what we've got. It'll be interesting to see if the Pats look into him at all since they let him go the last time.
    As for Forte, I'm fine with signing him for for bigger change if for no other reason than it shows potential free agents that if you work hard, you'll be rewarded for your contributions. It's a risk, sure, but signing anyone long term is a risk in this game (see Knox's injury and Peyton's neck). If you don't sign him, it sends a message that the players are merely warm bodies to you. The Bears have been pretty decent the past few years in rewarding their own, so I hope they continue that as long as the commitment is there and the player is producing. Forte is a great back who works hard and fits our offense perfectly. Sign him, if not now, then after you tag him.

  • In reply to bearsfanatic:

    I'd rather have TO than moss I'f I'm sifting through the garbage.

    There is NO WAY IN HELL emery passes on a FA WR this year. That would be akin to career suicide. We'll get one of them.

    Stevie and floyd are who I've finally settled on. How bout dem apples.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...don't either of those cancerous MOTH%#@%@#$%ER's(Moss-TO).....LDL won't have it..simple..

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Last night I watched that crazy YT video where TO is playing for the Niners against the Cowboys and he keeps running back to the star on the 50 yard line after he scores, then Emmit Smith does it, then TO does it again but gets poleaxed by Teague. Can't get the link because I'm at work, but surely this is where the TD celebration penalty comes from. It was ridiculous.

    The best celebrations were Walter's - just flip the ball to the nearest zebra. Class.

  • Unfortunately, one can't do it the old fashioned way where you just touch the ball to the ground. Ask Megatron :-)

  • Well boys hear comes FA: I WANT SOME MARIO TO CHI-TOWN!!!!

  • Speaking of Moss, I saw another me-first, has-been WR who is woefully considering a comeback play in a celebrity basketball game in Indy during the Super Bowl week. Turns out TO was the main celeb, and he hasn't changed a bit. He was shooting baskets by himself and stood apart from the others a lot. He continued to shoot (all alone) during the pre-game INTRODUCTIONS. He then spent half the time arguing with the refs during a charity basketball game. He would be arguing as the next play was happening behind him.
    Anyone who signs either of those clowns isn't too concerned about improving the roster or about the locker room environment. Maybe Jerry Jones will sign both of them. Then he can solicit sponsorship from The Scooter Store for a new sign in his stadium.

  • hey $, really? Still???

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    or this:

    Up... and then around.

    Can we get her to market the shake weight?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    up and around.......MB is that your new move for Valentines Day to the wifey? LOL!!!!

    you sick S.O.B.....!!!!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    sex? what's that lobo?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the only way the interview would be better is if she was running in slow motion like a Baywatch!

  • Here you go MB...Happy Valentines BOOTY CALL!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    boobies, Lobo... boobies.

  • MB. Guys. My wife is taking the kids out of town for a week starting this Saturday. I'm thinking it would be a perfect opportunity to rent a PS3 and do some online ass-kicking with you fellas. Does anyone know where I could rent one? All the blockbusters have closed down so...

    Also, what is the game you're playing? Modern Warfare 3? Is there anything else I'll need?

  • Doc...A Geographical Bachelor!!!!!! woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • what in thee fuck Doc. You married an angel didn't you?!

    I would pay MONEY for my wife to do that Doc. You are a lucky maing… maing.

    Good question. No idea now that BB went belly up. Hmmm...

    ok, here you go:

    ...or, you could find a used on on craig's list for cheap? Just make sure it comes with at least one controller, and if the guy wants you to pick it up somewhere deep in the woods, don’t go.

    Yes, MW3 (and don't ever let shady talk you into playing that TERRIBLE zombies game on black ops)

    Oh, lastly, you will most certainly also need this:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ...and tell them you're from the republic of Wayida.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah. She's good people. I'm trying to talk her into letting me buy one. With PS3, we pay 8 a month for netflix, vs. 90 a month for direct tv. Not to mention the savings on Sunday Ticket. My plan. Find a way to secure said PS3 and do nothing but play games for a solid week (with a smidge of teaching mixed in).

  • excellent. we'll be there. will be good to have you on.

  • I waited a long, long time to buy one and it was one of the best value purchases I ever made. You're spot on with Netflix. Their streaming library has gotten to be really extensive. I don't watch much tv anymore but when I do, it's 50/50 netflix vs live, and netflix is so cheap in comparison. You can also (allegedly) rip movies to your PC hard drive and use the PS3 to stream videos from it wirelessly.

    I don't shill for products much but I love my PS3.

  • Does Gamestop do that?

    Idk, can anyone rent a playstation and play online? They don't need to create a name or something?

  • good thought erik.

    $210 for a used PS3 40G:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Am I missing something? What's all the storage for? 40GB and I'm seeing some with 320GB. Is that for storing movies or what?

  • And game files, photos, music.
    You can use an external hard drive if you ever use up the 40 gb of internal space.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    says the guy who rarely accepts game invites.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was on last night late; didn't get home from the gym until 11:30pm EST so I wasn't around long - the night before, I was in a fucking terrible mood. Ter-ruh-bull.

    But I'll be happy to serve up some claymores tonight if I see you on.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wait... tonight?!?!?! I have to take my wife out to dinner and give her all the crap I bought her for over-commercialized, capitalism day.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'll catch you tomorrow.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    gfffffghkahdladkhs This is so tempting.. you have no idea.

  • dude, you can do this AND go to a game next year.... it's in 9 months minimum! You owe this to yourself erik for getting that scholarship again.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You're like a crack dealer. Games are addictive, Artoo. I have the scars from cubital tunnel surgery to prove it.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    totally maing. it's so bad. I fucking dream about it, bad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dude, I got a new bed with that money lol I literally have had a bed that was older than me.

    I got a tempurpedic bed brand new 1500. If any of you know how much it really cost to get one of these its like 4000.

    It's really how I have been able to stay on here or get on here so much. BEST SLEEP EVER.

    Want a bed..get one of those. promise

  • sleep is super important. good for you.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I - like many men - suffer from sleep apnea (and on my own!), so any kind of expensive bed is a complete waste of cash when you're waking up literally hundreds of times every night.

  • Okay. Manning is blowing up smoke and playing games.

    The Texans are not that stupid to cut Shaub and Leniart to have a old aging qb like Manning play and teach T.J.Yates some things.


  • that also...I find it hard to believe that you put Schaub on the shelf.....o fuck do we have another Narcissus?

    The re-incarnation of # 4 in # 18?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Idk... I want to say Yes but I really believe that 18 will make that team scary.

    He will have a top ten young defense.

    A running game, WR, and a oline.

    Holy shit. He wants another Superbowl.

  • The Cincinnati Bengals hired former safety Mark Carrier as defensive backs coach and promoted Paul Guenther to linebackers coach, the team announced Monday

  • Nitty's in, Baby

    Just got off the phone with the wife. Today, I'll be buying my new PS3. That's right. BUYING. Oh fuck yeah! Daddy's happy now!!!!!! Thank God for Tax season! HELL YEAH.

    MB, Browne, Shady, can I have a HELL YEAH!??!!!

    Shit I'm pumped.

  • Congrats - you won't regret it. Well, minus the sleep deficit thing; this won't help!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    but his wife will. trust me.

    Oh doc, you need a headset so we can hear you moaning in pain.


  • You know, I didn't want to say anything, but I actually have MW3 - it's just sitting there like a crack pipe, beckoning...


    Common maings. Jump on in.

  • And not even on layaway! Awesome!

  • Congrats gritty nitty, but prepare yourself for complete humiliation. Just ask MB.

  • In reply to Shady:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    this is for you:

  • In reply to MB30SD:



    nothing new boys and girls........sheite this blog has been professing for the last three years....Blogfader ........... send a link to E-man so we can help in in FA & The Draft!!! hahahahahahaha

  • MB, What's with all the links to the Arab music?



    (just replace the music playing with the link we've been laying down)

    It's my favorite weapon to crush someone with... the music shady put to it. You'll see.... oh, you'll see alright.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, the guy in that video is a fucking MONSTER. Shady is a little like that, but that dude is a 4-5 hr a day addict. Guy is fucking brutal.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This is more my speed.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    pretty funny actually.

  • Hot Stock Tip: I'm long on Teledildonics,2817,2398754,00.asp?obref=obinsite

    Some guy named Rex keeps asking for a foot version, though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Freaky. Reminds me of that game pod thing from Existenz. Probably a good investment, as long as nothing goes horribly wrong.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • Okay this one is for Irish, so I'm assuming we hate our safety, hate our left tackle, must get a top level backup QB, and draft Burfict in round 1. Also assumes we trade Briggs for Marshall (and I mixed in some other trades too).

    Assume Briggs makes unreasonable contract demands until we are forced to trade him. Miami, acting shrewdly, trades us Marshall for Briggs and our lower 3rd round pick. So we have our #1 WR, but we're desperate to fill out the LB group, so...

    1 - Vontaze Burfict (LB, Arizona State)
    2 - Zebrie Sanders (OT, Florida State) [move up 5-10 spots to get him; trade down from 5 to top of 7 in exchange]
    3* - Julian Miller (DE, West Viginia) [move down 10-15 spots to get him; move up from top of 7 to bottom of 5 in exchange]
    4 - Dwight Jones (WR, North Carolina)
    5 - Blake Gideon (FS, Texas)
    6 - Chris Rainey (RB, Florida)
    7 - Demario Davis (OLB, Arkansas State)

    Cap Cost - Trade Marshall costs about $4 million in cap space
    FA - Kyle Orton (backup QB) - $4 million
    FA - Eddie Royal (WR) - $2 million
    FA - Tracy Porter (CB) - $2 million
    FA - Robert Mathis (DE) - $3.5 million

    Pros - Marshall. Youth at LB and CB. Another safety to try out. Another candidate to play tackle with Webb and Carimi. An awesome backup QB. A 3rd and maybe fourth player at WR together with Bennett and Marshall. A temporary fix at DE in Mathis who'll be cheap enough to get given the other moves. We take a shot on a late round RB and drop Marion Barber.

    Cons - Again I'm reaching on cap space, but probably not as much as the last one. We don't get better at LB, just not worse (assuming Burfict is good). We don't really improve anywhere on D as much as maintain and try to get younger. We have a lot of risky pickups (Mathis, Royal, Sanders, Miller, even Blake Gideon). We probably never find out if Enderle is any good.

    Irish likes risks, but I couldn't see Emery doing this off-season. Too many opportunities to ruin his reputation in year 1. Though I could see the Briggs trade and Burfict draft. Moving up for Sanders would be a surprise, so would paying Orton $4 million to be the backup, but this was for Irish...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Orton wants to start somewhere. So that won't happen. We could get Hill from Detroit or resign Mccown.

    I doubt we go after Royal or that corner. I forgot about Mathis and he would be decent if we cannot get anyone else.

    I can say this much, Reggie Wayne is going to looking for a new home and do not be surprised if that guy becomes our number one and we spend our money on defense.

    That's if Emery is looking to help Lovie out. If Emery is looking long term.. We will draft guys that will become good players but not right away.

    It will be interesting to see how Emery works this draft and FA class. Does he help the coach out to win now or does he begin to build the team he wants for the next few years?

    Can he do both? Idk.

  • Artoo I tend to agree with you, but I did this for Irish. If we're going to get Orton on our team, he's going to cost a few million.

    I think the best place for Kyle (and he deserves this) is to do what Hasselback is doing in Tennessee. Play good football while the future franchise guy (there its Gabbert) learns the ropes and gets a chance to develop. Depending on all the details, Orton could end up starting for a year or two before the rookie is ready to step in. And by that point he probably will be ready to be a veteran backup unless he's playing lights out and another team wants to start him.

    Teams where he could land: Seattle, Indy, KC, Cleveland.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I want to see us draft Burfict as a backup/replacement for Lac, not trade away our other good LB to make our receivers better. Give them a pick and a receiver for Marshall. It doesn't make sense to weaken our LB corps to make our WRs better.

    No quick fixes either. Get Mario Williams or bust. Don't settle for less. Draft the guy if you can't get MW.

  • Hey, I'm all for using FA to right the ship but lets be rational here, I'd be surprised if the Bears get Mario. I can see signing a WR but I'm not sure the Bears will go after Mario, he'll be too expensive. Not that I wouldn't love to have him but I don't think Emery is going to break out the check book and spend away his first year. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want to give Lovie a contract extension without making him work for it.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Yeah it's looking not good for the Mario train.

    We can still hope. He would take away the need for a compliment for Peppers and stay with us for a couple of years.

  • Which reciever exactly are we going to give them? The only guys with any trade value are Hester and Bennett. Knox might have had value, but there's too much uncertainty with his injury.

    Trading Bennett for Marshall is probably a decent upgrade, but it doesn't accomplish the goal of growing our WR group, especially if we draft Burfict in Round 1 instead of another WR. So if we get Marshall for Earl and also manage a great WR steal in round 3, we're left with basically two recievers... not exactly a great strategy.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Agreed - although do we still own the rights to Sam Hurd?

    Miami would be the perfect location for him.


  • Nice find. Have to say the write-up on Izzy makes me think what I've posted about him previously is on point. He's not the answer to bookend Pepp, but he could be one of the best rushers coming off the bench in the league. Give him 30 snaps a game, get Pepp and someone else to take 40-50 each as starters and we're looking really good on the edge. And that role will probably come with a very reasonable contract, maybe $1.5 million or so. Very doable, as long as Izzy isn't still trying to get big money as an every down starter.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    If Izzy is trying to break the bank, ask him to open his locker and take his butt out of here, saving this money could tag Avril, Mario or any every down starter and "last chance guy" called Favre´s killer.


    Uh oh

  • Hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.

  • I found this ruh roh link attached to the one you posted Artoo. It seems more and more individuals involved in charity's need some charity of their own. Since gangee is totally harmless, wink wink, surely he was just trying to take a short cut. He he.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

  • hee hee.... hee hee

    Karma's a bitch ain't it?


    Sweet...more ideas people!


    Gives off the idea about Mathis being a nice FA.

  • I wonder if that Penn State cunt is still lurking here.

    Looks like Curley and Schultz both walk because JoePa croaked. That is BULLSHIT.

    By dying, that makes the 2nd time Joe ducked responsibility. Maybe he'll be held accountable wherever he is now...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oh I like this one too:

    The jury for Sandusky's upcoming trial will come from Centre County. Prosecutors had asked to have them come from somewhere else because, well, everyone in Centre County seems to have a connection to Penn State and The Second Mile, including some Centre County judges.

    This is turning into an episode of the Lincoln Lawyer.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Absolutely unbelievable.

  • Tricky Dick was such a.... dick

  • While the PS3 is a marvy bit of kit, in some ways I miss the days of PC games, mainly because you could Mod them.

    Valve and Bethesda got together and had Stephen Merchant do some more dialog, and added the Portal robot to Skyrim. He'll follow you around and make snarky commentary on your dungeon quests. See, now that's brilliant. But only available to PC owners.

    The downside of the PC Mod community was that it instantly made all FPS like MW3 pointless to play against PC players, because they all just hacked their drivers to add aimbots. So the hackers immolated the PC as a FPS platform, which is why you are all playing MW3 on PS3s now, because it's fairly unhackable. Esp. with what they did with this latest 4.1 firmware update.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Which is why I am absolutely dying for Counterstrike on the PS3 to get here because it will have native support for keyboard/mouse.
    When that happens, oh baby....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    settle down Clay More (your new name... clay)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You know I'm going to harass the hell out of you to buy CS when it gets released shortly.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    we haven't even gotten into BF3 maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Counterstrike is the king of shooters - no f-cking around with deathmatch, just pure objective based teamwork.

    Although, after watching some BF3 vids on youtube, I gotta admit, I'm tempted.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeeeeees, cooooome to me my preeeecioooouuus.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Counterstrike is the biggest game among Thai kids. The version they play looks about a step up from Wolfenstein, and not by much.

  • That is probably 1.6...which is by far the most successful online PC FPS in terms of longevity and peak player usage. And it's absolutely the gold standard (that was for you) of PC mods, given it's Half-life roots.
    Even thought the graphics now are somewhat rough, it's still playable - it's not BF3 but it's hardly Wolfenstein 3D. Maybe you meant the one that was based on the Quake engine.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I can't play where i work anyway GP.

    Well, ok, maybe a bit....

    (take that 4B!.... oh, and that fat latin chick too)

  • Doc, did you get it done!?

  • for all those who want Moss: (enjoy)


    Gay, totally gay.

  • MB,

    Okay so I got the system and got it all set up, blue tooth and all. Everything was pretty easy actually, except the one thing I expected to be easy; Getting the game to work. I put the game in after the system was set up but I'll be goddamned if I can't figure out how to get it to play.

    Also, how do I go about looking for you fools online? I found myself outside some virtual mall walking around not knowing what the fuck to do. How do I search for people? How do I play my game? My call sign is docnitty34, as it should be. I probably won't be able to play much until Saturday, but it's on after that.

  • Virtual mall? That sounds like the Wii!!!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wow, Nitty - I've had my PS3 for a year and a half and you're the first person to point out this Playstation Home avatar thing to me..

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I know. Fucking weird right? There were all these avatars standing around talking to themselves. I think it's the Playstation Network or Store or some shit. You can demo games there I think. But I can't figure out what to do to actually play the game I bought and actually find you fuckers online.

  • my name is deadrabbit04...I think mb30sd is...mb30sd.
    And Shady is Shadynuggets (something or another)...
    Waffle is...I can't remember.

    If you get back to the main menu of the PS3, it should scroll sideways and vertically between main functionality groupings and specific settings or programs.
    I believe it's called the xmb.
    So, if you get to that, scroll over to Games and then down to the disc icon and click the X button.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shady is shadynuggets4 I think. Johnny is Johnnypelo1, but sadly he rarely graces us with his presence. I think my constant diatribe of complaining and talking smack while playing turned him off participating.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Okay, yeah, I saw the games icon but it had some weird headings. I only spent a little time on it last night so, I'm sure I'll figure it out.

    As for getting you homies to join me, is there a search thing where I just enter your names?

  • yes, last menu item on the right.

    Pretty easy to add fools. I'll add you when I get home and maybe that will give you an option to sign up more easily.

    for the record I tried to change my name to "El ChupaCabra" but I can't without loosing all my prestige.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You mean the one that says "Friends"? I tried that one and it was empty. I didn't see a search bar. Like I said, I'll try again tonight and I'm sure I'll figure it out.

  • Doc -

    You are in something called Playstation Home.

    Exit that. It's an app on the PS3, it's not the game. If you can't find the game icon, it will look like a disc and say MW3, then just insert the disc after the system is totally booted and it will auto-start.

    Home is gay.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I've been in that retarded fucking thing. What marketing buffoon came up with that gem, jesus. Probably thought it was the most brilliant idea. brutal.

    Doc, not sure why the game isn't working. Are you sure you bought a PS3 and not a PS2? Are you sure the game is for PS3 and not Xbox.... and other shit like that? Did you buy a new system or a used one that could be defective?

    I'll jump on when I get him and try to tell you how to sign up to play online, but shady can probably tell you straight up.... or just google it, there will most certainly be a bunch of easy to follow step-by-step tutorials our there. Let me know if you can't get it done on your own.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    him = home

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    All brand new, mang.

  • wow, look at you!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Taxes. And you thought I was crazy for having a third kid.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't know much about the PS3, but devices that have a CD/DVD drive are often shipped with the drive locked.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    WTF was I thinking of? Scanners? Doc, don't scan anything with your new PS3 until you unlock the light bar thingy.

  • It's just ShadyNuggets. And try ejecting the game and putting it back in from the PS home screen, should start up automatically. If not, go to the games menu and scroll down to the MW3 disc icon and hit x. I suggest you play the capaign mode before jumping into the deep end that is multiplayer.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That's definitely the plan. I'm pretty sure I won't last very long with any of you guys. Unless there's like, math questions and shit.

  • Playstation Home has a classroom with a whiteboard, you can have your avatar go up there and do integrals and shit for Sony points.

  • btw, really?

    (hey 4B, check out the 11 second mark)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She really is a beauty. Looks like Marilyn Monroe in that vid.

  • So there are quite a few things that make me feel old, people not getting Monty Python or Airplane references and that kind of thing. But I think people are simply forgetting things much faster. I had to tell three people this week that when you dial a long distance number from a land line you need to dial a 1 before the area code... jebus.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    "Ohhhh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK..."

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Hey Nineteen, that's 'Retha Franklin
    She don't remember the Queen of Soul

    Tried to get my nieces to listen to Aretha and Dionne Warwick (Whitney Houston's Godmother and cousin), but they think I'm crazy.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    You do? Shit.

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    Cuidado... Llamas!

  • The Bucs and Bengals are going to have a lot of room in the cap space.


  • Oh jesus:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cris Carter should go fuck himself with straight cash, homie for even suggesting that.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Cris Carter is a douchebag

  • More sad news from the music industry today. All the members of Nickelback were found alive and well in their hotel room this morning.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    ... and this just in .... tributes from the entertainment world have been flooding in for Rosie O'Donnell who farted earlier today. She was 49.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Now that's funny. Nickelback sucks all forms of ass.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Nickelback is sort of like Smash Mouth. I've never met anyone who says "yeah man, that's my favorite band, their music really gets me pumped." I don't even know anyone who owns any of their songs. But somehow they sell ridiculous amounts of records. Go figure.

    And by the way, if anything bad happens to a member of the band we will never hear the end of it. Tributes all over the radio. Trust me, its better this way.


    Andrew Brandt predicts V-Jack and Colston will hit the open market, while Welker, Bowe and Desean will get the Tag (or a contract) from their team.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Colston is a injury prone possession wideout we don't need.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm taking it you're a VJax guy then GP. I'm just not sure about him. If Bowe can't be had I'd still rather see Colston than Jax I think. I like the fact that Bowe got his numbers without guys named Rivers and Brees throwing to him. Has Colston really been injured that many times? I honestly don't know.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I've been fucked over the last two fantasy seasons by Colston. This last season, he sat out much of mid-season and scored no points. He has a lot of injury issues.

    VJax is good. Bowe has character issues, but don't they all?

    We need a big target that can go up and get it, and that was not Roy the Baby Giraffe.

    I'm also on the Floyd bandwagon as a rook. I know the party line is that rook wideouts don't have the routes down, but Floyd is a talent - even if he is a Domer.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I like Floyd but as a we got Floyd and Vjax or Colston. Not a we got Floyd and he's our # 1. He's a talent but he's not a come in first year and be a 1,300 yard guy talent. I hope the Bears make an offer for Gaither to shore up the left side of the line. It doesn't matter who Cutler has as receivers if Webb is protecting him.

  • See this? Three Iranian bombers were foiled in Bangkok for attempted reprisals at the Israeli embassy for the assassination of their nuclear scientists - police approached one guy, who then proceeded to throw a grenade at them. It bounced off something, came straight back at him and blew his legs off. Here he is, alive, legless, just lying there with no one in any particualr hurry to go to his aid. Instant karma.

  • Were you nearby?

    Don't believe in Iranian moron
    His type like a curse
    Instant karma's gonna get him
    If I don't get him first
    Don't believe that shock and awe
    Can really change the world
    As it spins in revolution
    It spirals and turns
    I, I believe in love

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Finally we found one guy with worse accuracy than Caleb Hanie.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That guy was able to hit the ground at his feet before the grenade blew up in his face, so still more accurate than Hanie.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    His facebook page is still up.

  • Receiver, recciver, receiver. How many do we really need? 3? 4? If Knoxx can't play, and We let Williams go, then that leaves Us with 3? Bennett, Hester, and Sanzenbacher?

  • In reply to JWilson:

    I'd say 2. The way I look at it is Hester and Sanzenbacher =1 receiver. Neither has really shown anything. I think Sanzenbacher could be tons better next year though.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    Agreed we need 2. Hester needs to not play wideout except in long field situations to create matchup issues.

    and sometimes Hester

    that would get it done

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Flip in stevie for vjax and pick up a cheap #3 to replace whitebread and I'm down.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Brandon augmentation ....

    Flip Brandon Marshall for Stevie/Vjax, throw in a bargain basement Brandon Lloyd and let the games begin. Show me 33-1 about the Bears then.

  • In reply to JWilson:

    Sanzenbacher had too many drops last year. he will not be on this years squad. You can't be small and slow and have bad hands.

    You will see 1 big name FA WR this year and a 2nd tier guy as well to compliment Bennett and Williams/Hester.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Johnny sighting!

    yep. I'm small... but I'm slow.

    Agree, one big signing and one small. I'd love to do stevie and floyd though... probably get those deals done for a similar price to just Vjax.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gimme Floyd and Camarillo.

  • Chucky gives Jaws the slip

  • Pomepii thinks Louis will go to LG and Cookie will go to backup LT with Omlette gone.

    I think LL could be a good RG if we gave him a shot there, but Cookie was a disaster at tackle, and I think Tice knows this.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He'd be a better RG than Spencer, and I don't like having our backup center playing beside the guy he's backing up. If somebody throws a grenade on the field..... I mean, the loss of human life would be bad enough, but if you lose two centers in one go. Just sayin'

  • To tell you the truth .. Don't write your goodbye letters to Roy Williams yet.

    I don't think he is leaving.

  • Is he worth keeping? I really don't think so.

  • He should stay until we get someone better to replace him.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    absolutely Johnny.

    Knox's helmet kissing his ass all but gauranteed a spot for Roy.

    And honestly, he did look better toward the end.

    We have ONE wr, Bennett.

    We're going to get Vjax or Colston, or some #2 like Meachem in FA.
    (all signs are pointing to a WR in FA)

    One second rounder in the draft.

    So our starting lineup might go something like.

    Colston. Bennett. Mcnutt.

    With Williams, Hester, Sanzen rounding out the squad.

  • The problem is, he's not going to contribute at all on specials...and unless we are completely fucking crazy, he will be at best our 4th WR by the start of training camp.
    That means he's eating roster space for no reason. Gimme a schmuck that can at least return kicks or tackle for that 4th spot.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Most likely, Sanczen and that 2nd round WR would play specials.

    I also think we're resigning Graham, some safeties and a shit load of LBs, which should fill out the SP teams nicely (not to mention I have absolute faith in Toub).

    We need actual WRs that aren't in a back brace and are over 5'10 who know the system.

  • I hope not. He's not 4'11 for starters. Always a positive. I think we see much more production from Roy next season ...
    (gulps kool-aid)
    ...... what with Cutty's roll-outs and Tice's schemes, not to mention Roy's extra time developing his chemistry with Cutler. Right now he's our #2 until we bring in more studly receivers. Give Hester 5 or 6 snaps a game and send him deep. it'll be sweet ....

  • It seems unbelievably quiet at Halas Hall since Phil Emery's news conference. Do we have any sense for how his role and authority is developing compared to general managers like Ted Thompson, moves he's considering on his staff, the timing of selecting directors of pro and college personnel now that Tim Ruskell is gone, etc.? I'm open-minded at this point but the silence seems strange. Surely they don't think all that needed to be changed was the GM. Phil, Chicago

    You are right about Halas Hall being very quiet since Emery's news conference. This is by design. Get used to it. The Bears have gone into lock-down mode in terms of dealing with the media and public. We have been told Emery will not speak at the scouting combine, though the large majority of NFL general managers do, and Jerry Angelo always did. We also have been told all other members of the front office and assistant coaches are now off limits to reporters all offseason. This is a new policy. The Bears don't want us to know what they are doing or thinking because they believe it puts them at a competitive disadvantage. In my opinion, it is part of a decades-old NFL tradition of unreasonable paranoia. I can tell you Emery's plan was to wait until after the draft to make any staff additions or changes.

  • All three of the potential candidates listed could play SAM linebacker if the team thinks it needs an upgrade at Roach’s spot. But of the three, Hawthorne possesses the most versatility and upside. A four-year veteran, Hawthorne notched 115 tackles in 2011 to go with two sacks and three interceptions, one of which he returned 77 yards for a touchdown (with a Grade II MCL sprain). Bears coach Lovie Smith, a native of East Texas, is no doubt familiar with Hawthorne, who grew up with former safety Danieal Manning in Corsicana, Texas.

    Nicknamed “Heater”, Hawthorne has posted more than 100 tackles and led the team in tackles each of the last three seasons. What’s more is he’s played all three linebacker spots. Coincidentally, Hawthorne’s first NFL start came against the Bears in 2009, and he posted 16 tackles in that contest.

    Normally a middle linebacker, Hawthorne has also led the Seahawks in tackles from the weak side. In Chicago, Hawthorne, 26, could potentially play Roach’s spot where he’d be an upgrade against the run and in pass coverage, and simultaneously serve as the heir apparent to either Briggs on the weak side or Urlacher in the middle.

    Under the last personnel regime, the Bears expressed some interest in Hawthorne. But it’s unclear now how Emery views him.


  • THAT I live. Yes please!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    like... fucking LIKE

  • Sounds like a gamer to me.

    And that's why no matter how much Irish wants a C or LB in the 1st, I say sign a cover-2 fit or draft 'em later.

    There's a lot of these types in later rounds.

    I don't trust our coaches to develop Safeties or Wrs for shit, but they do squeeze the most out of LBs and Dlinemen.

  • other possible late round gems at LB...

    Miles Burress

    Keenan Robinson.

  • I know the guy didnt have a choice but Audi? Really? 10-1 he has a sister named Porche or Mercedes.

  • I'll sing this til I'm blue in the face - show me the guy who goes in for Urlacher that isn't a laugh-in. Bueller? Bueller ?


    Translation: MARIO FUCKING WILLIAMS and a number 1 WR to be named later.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    As Mr. White in "Reservoir Dogs" says,

    "Gentlemen, Gentlemen, let's not start sucking each other's dicks..."

    Big money for Bears means a Bud-light instead of Natural Light...

    I'll believe it when I see it.

  • well put

  • I just don't understand the persistence of this attitude in light of the Peppers signing. Just does not make sense.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Absolutely. I smell a Mario Williams signing after reading that. I don't think George needs to blow smoke up anyone's ass. Marshall is relatively cheap if we swing that trade. We can do this.

  • Marshall and Williams..

    We set!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    We got a bunch of rejects from the 99cent bin not one year ago, that's how.

    We got a new sheriff in town, but the owners are still the same.

    Only hope for all of us is that George inherited more Halas than McCaskey genes...

  • You could fill that other LB spot that Roach is in into perpetuity with solid but aging vets playing for league minimum and you are just fine.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I don't know maing, do you remember how bad ass we were with the samoan dude (can't remember his name)? I love the idea of a 4th year guy erik mentions above... he sounds like a monster. Flop lambos contract, get heater and we're the best LBs corps in the nfl.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm still a Pisa supporter. That's my guy. I want him back with a full year of rehab under his belt. That was a scary LB corps.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Or get that dude Stephen Hill in the 3rd like somebody mentioned. 6'5 with hands. Still get two studs int eh first two rds. I like.

  • We need to draft a OL in the first round no matter what. We have the franchise QB, RB, 3rd WR, LB's, HOF DE, 2nd yr up and coming DT, FG kicker, Punter, fullback that can longsnap if needed, TE's, etc.

    That means we really can address OL, WR and Corner while playing with some FA dough on a bookend to Pep, a WR that pees on smaller DB's and maybe a corner. Bring back a healthy PISA for dirt cheap money. It makes sense. Trust me, I was almost a doctor.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    If Emery is taking the long view, the choice is obvious - go with OL in the 1st and probably 2nd round. The way to build a dynasty is with the O line and a good QB. Emery inherited a QB that is good enough. The line is not, plain and simple.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Our immediate need is a LT, and if we didn't "win" that last game, we could possibly have drafted Martin.

    But now, at 19, can we reach for an LT?

    Our only hope is that other teams begin reaching for QBs, 4 preferably (Luck, RG3, Tannenheil, and long shot Weeden)

    Barron (S) is such a good prospect and TE has received a lot of attention that he might get drafted b4 we're on the board.

    Konz (C) , DeCastro, and (G) Richardson (HB) ditto.

    So that could move us up 8 spots to draft positions we really need (LT) (WR) (DE).

    The only problem is, there's almost always a gold rush for LT and DEs...

  • We were doing reasonably well on the line before the injuries, surely Lance could be tried out at LT if the worst came to the worst and they don't bring any new guys in. I just don't see how they think Webb will become a good pass blocker if he hasn't by this stage.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    pisa, that's his name. he's done.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    there's an old saying:

    Never bring a knife to an RPG fight and never count a bad ass samoan out.

  • another dude's take:

  • The most underrated movie of the '90s could be 15 Minutes. I'd like to see Edward Burns and DeNiro team up again in the future.
    Also, I seriously hate blaming Bruce Weber. Who else can I point the finger at? Good recruiter, runs a great defense, but I can't stand an offense that will run 30 seconds off the clock with our 7 footer at the top of the key while we are 10 points down. That is coaching? Right?
    Remember when Weber was at Southern? No talent on the team but run run run run. If Paul and Richardson were given that kind of freedom to just run and play "street ball" I swear we would score 90 points a game.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    The dunk by Leonard in transition last night in the first couple of minutes? That is what I want to see more of out of this team...instead, they spend the first 30 minutes being perimeter oriented, never passing into the post, and then take bad jump shots.
    They are excellent at attacking the basket but they don't do it!
    I don't get it.
    I stopped trying to figure this years roster out a few weeks ago.
    Paul, Richardson, Bertrand, and Leonard (I'm still not sure about Abrams) are dangerous but they seem to have regressed significantly in the last month. I cannot believe they are now 1-7 over their last 8 games. It is incredible.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Paul in particular is so effective getting to the basket and yet it takes him forever to get aggressive in ballgames.

    And not one of them is any good at feeding the post; Griffey can do it but the guy has been a fixture on the bench for weeks.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Good Point about Griff too. I can see why Bertrand gets the start, but if Griffey is going to score 18 off the bench against Michigan, why is he only going to play for three minutes the next game?
    I am also not sold on Abrams, but he seems to be maturing b4 our eyes.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Great point about them attacking the basket. Our guards and Bertrand are like lightning driving to the hoop, yet they just play lob-potato. I know you like Weber MBhP, I do too. But that is coaching, neh? Does it need to be addressed? Could Illini be the first big division school since the early 90s(army) to hire new basketball and football coaches the same year? Is there something that my father and I are missing? Every year I use the Illini to cure my Bear woes... I feel like i am in some sort of frustrating sports nightmare.
    Maybe D.Rose will get to feeling better.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    That's exactly how I felt last night - the Illini b-ball team is my escape during the spring lull until free agency and the draft...
    I had high hopes they'd sneak into the tourney this year and I would have traveled to watch them.
    I'm just hoping they don't lose to Nebraska on the road because I will NEVER, EVER live that down. Trust me.

    I am starting to think we need to change coaches in spite of his recruiting, but my fear is that it would reset alot of relationships that his assistants have built up in-state over the past six years.

    Abrams is definitely maturing - he just needs to get his 3-pt shot straightened out. Without it, it will always be difficult for him to truly prosper with a guy like Leonard b/c defenses will feel comfortable sagging back into the post.

    I think Bruce has never truly adjusted the O this year to match Leonard's ability versus Tisdale's strengths last year.
    Tisdale was very comfortable with the ball in the high post and it allowed him to pick and pop. Leonard needs to get the ball on the low block with time to set and reset position. Unfortunately, our guards seem completely clueless on how to get the ball to him up high where he can go get it. It should be much simpler than what they're doing. Bring DJ down in the corner, run Leonard off a screen to the low block to get position, dump the ball in, and either kick it back for a three or make an interior move. It's not rocket science when you've got a 7'1" monster like Leonard.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I seen Leonard once this year vs Wisconsin, and he looked really good. They should get him the ball more inside like WI should get the ball to Berrgren more inside. That was an exciting back and forth game I enjoyed watching.
    I frinking love Bo Ryan. He's got to be one of the best coaches in the country. Year after year they win with inferior talent. Big game in 30 minutes against MSU. Don't expect to win, but hope its a tough close game. Wisconsin's problem this year is they live and die by the 3. They would have beat OSU if they would have made just 25% of their 3's.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    When Bo Ryan was at UW-Platteville, where they won several D3 championships, they played a much faster game and played about 10 players. He changed his style at WI because they don't have the talent to play 10 deep.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Yep, he's one helluva ball coach. WI is always a tough out, even in their down years.

  • Purdue is the winner of the 2012 MBHAP "Roster full of guys I want to punch in the face for no particular reason, just because they have punchable faces" Award.

    Particularly Ryne Smith - the guy is such a douchenozzle, I want to hit my TV with a ballpeen hammer whenever he shows up.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Put Hummel on that list man... It seems like that dude has been kicking our ass for six years.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I feel bad for his ACL tears but for chrissake when does he run out of eligibility? He's been in college since the 90's, I'm pretty sure.

  • It's only fucking Valentine's Day and I'm already sick of speculating.

    Can we just FF to draft day? I'm tried of waiting.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bring it on!

  • One more for ya MBhP. Paul and Leonard go pro? or play together another season?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I would love to see both come back. Sometimes it takes just one more summer for guys to figure out what they were doing wrong in their approach to the game. Leonard will be a high pick one way or the other, but Paul has the ability to be special too. He's not there yet - just gets too complacement with his jump shooting.

    Can you imagine if this team had a talent like Richmond on it? And they didn't play like a bunch of basketcases?

  • Hey ender, rabbit... I think you meant to chat about that sheite here:

    (mumbles to himself: fucking basketball… pussies)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm with GP, all of this speculation is killing me, especially after the tragic ending to our season.

    I just want to get a shiny new OL for Christmasdraftday. Then some total Grabowski OL in the second round with a last name like Plurf or some shit.

    I would also like a 6'2 or taller WR that can bring down the occasional high throw was Cutty.

    And furthermore I would like an angry black or samoan linebacker that loves to kill dudes to replace Roach.

    And finally I would like Mario Williams at DE. The combo of Williams and Peppers would instantly add 2 wins to any schedule if not more.

    I would also like cheerleaders...really slutty cheerleaders.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Yeah whats up with no cheerleaders? We had em at one time and then poof?

  • I'm all about the Honey bears making a comeback. Should be George's priority. I'm convinced we'll win a superbowl with them if we do - Asians and nubian queens only.

  • Irish... do you know you're.... irish?

  • Sorry Irish; didn't see that until after I replied to your comment below.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Let 's hear it then men - blogwide - what three moves do you want to see this off-season, be it FA or draft ?

    I 'll go with :

    1. Draft Konz (or Burfict if he's gone).
    2. Sign Mario W.
    3. Throw the Dolphins what they want for Marshall.

    Happy days.

  • I agree with GPL, Waffle, and Sac above: speculation about FA & the draft makes the wait seem longer, and we need cheerleaders.

    So with the first pick in the 2012 cheerleader draft, Buttsteak chooses...

    (Clip is PG-13. No nudity or swearing. But still, may not be SFW)

  • 1. Konz (or the hieghest value guy at DB, then LB if DB not available)
    2. Sign Stevie (and M.Floyd... for the same price as Vjax)
    3. Cliff Avril

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    for that, you get a bouncing betty party:

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    bring it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My bad MB, I just thought after 400 post or so, most being video game oriented, I could derail the thread. The ChiNow basketball thread you posted has zero comments, zero comments, zero comments. How can i discuss basketball with myself? I tried, and that is why i brought the discussion to ya'll, because I can't figure the Illini out.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    fair enough... and I was just mussin with you guys. I'm probably in the minority of dudes here who don't follow bball

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    I hate basketball. Basketball comments don't bother me, except that they look like football comments at a glance. The PS3 stuff I can just zoom right past.

  • This guy Jeremy Lin for the Knickerbockers is a helluva story. But if I hear one more stupid pun using his name, I will seriously Linch somebody.

  • I wonder what Bernie Lincicome thinks of this kid.

  • Super Lintendo!! Lin On Me!

    Some lucky lady in NYC is gonna feel a couple inches of pain tonight!!!!

  • In reply to Crown:

    Nice...I know Jeff likes that asshole but I can't stand the guy personally, even more so from his twitter feed.
    He's a terrible writer as far as I'm concerned.

  • In reply to Crown:


  • doc, you ready tonight?

  • LegoHead and McShay talking about prospects in the trenches, including Mike Adams.

  • I had a goo at Mike Adams videos to see what all the fuss is about. No way should we let that guy be our first pick. He's J'Marcus Webb II waiting to happen. Lots of lumbering mediocre run-blocking, and in the few pass plays you'll see in his vidz, it's all patty-cake-pansy-blocks and not a pancake in sight. If he ever saw a speed-rusher I think we'd see Webb all over again. He'd still be coming out of his stance as Cutler's nut bounces off the turf. A big mummy..

    No. No. No.

    We're not going to draft a good LT this year. We won't get one in FA. Jerry fkd up ten years in a row and there will be no super-fix for failing that long in the draft, we just have to look at what we have and make do for the moment. Lance must be our best shot at having a decent LT, there's just nobody else - I know he's only 6'3 but that means good leverage in a positive light - Barber can chip in, or Tice can run double-TE sets with our big 6'7 lads to help out. Only bring in Webb as an extra tackle on running plays and goal-line stuff.

  • Hey Rabbit, this one's for you:

  • funny (and sad):

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ha, that's actually interesting.

  • did you see the first one (it's even better):



  • dude, I want me one o' thems Paramount Marauders. That thing is sick.

    Oh, and you better start preparing Erik:

    (you too buttsteak)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Why me? Because I don't play wargames?

    I'm going up in the Rapture, my friend. Have fun fighting for the last drop of fuel.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Don't know why... you just came to mind. Why not?

    You are - because you're in Verginya?

    I'm part of the chosen ones my man. I'll put a good word in for you with the big man though. Just remember, trust no one they're after your fuel/water/food/women.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Chosen one? You mean you've chosen one of Trac's legs to grab onto? Because that's the only way you're going up. For he who lusts in his heart commits adultery.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I am probably right out then.

    I do have some compromising pictures of St. Peter with a Nun, so I'm hoping I can just blackmail my way into the club.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's an alterboy in drag. No way you'll be able to blackmail the Rock with that.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    hahahahahaha... I was going to make an 'nun not alter boy' remark myself.

    And excuse me, but the chosen people all get issues a get out of jail free card when we get clipped by the moil maing. I'll post a pic of it sometime.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    the card... not my penis.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Heaven's bouncer. He's got some pull.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    just don't do this:

  • Hey Jeff, how about kicking down about some rugby since it's the offseason, and it's a lot more interesting than basketball (lin lin lin lin lin)?

    Did you see the 7's champeenship? Pretty dominant win by the samoans I thought. Also watcher Glouchester play North 'Ampton in premier league last night. Man, 7s pales in comparison to the brutality of premiere league 'real' rugby. Those are some tough dudes maing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Rugby. That's where a bunch of guys in tight shorts squirm around in the mud, right?

    I'm putting in a request for a 'Draft the Ultimate Cheerleading Squad' thread. But first get somebody to fix this #@%@$!@$ blog so I can post jpg's.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    kind of, but throw in... jesus, I don't even know how to describe it. It's not hitting per se, but more like just getting run over constantly. Just watch a match for 15 minutes and you know what I mean. Great sport.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Just joking, MB. Rugby is a good game, more like football or hockey than male mud wrestling.

  • Houston Texans outside linebacker Mario Williams will be an unrestricted free agent on March 13 and the team is "trying to create enough salary-cap space to make Williams an offer impressive enough to get him to sign a long-term contract before free agency begins," according to the Houston Chronicle.
    Williams, however, is saying that he's not worried so much about how large the pile of cash is that's offered. "I'm not worried about that," Williams said Thursday, the paper reports. "It's really not that big of a deal to me. I was the first pick (in 2006), and I've already had everything I really wanted, so my biggest thing is to be in a good position, a good scheme, a good system and continuing my career. Hopefully, it works out. It's always important to be in a position to be successful."
    The Texans shelled out $54 million to Williams over the last six seasons. He delivered with 192 solo tackles, 53.5 sacks, 11 forced fumbles, and one interception.
    This past season, he started the season with five sacks in five games but his season ended early with an injury to his pectoral muscle. The Chronicle reports that Williams says he's been fully healthy for the last two weeks.
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  • We have a great Scheme for you Mario. Basically you line up opposite of where ever Julius lines up, and you guys kill people. It's great. Come here.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think that's how he's looking at it all right. He already has the cash. He wants fewer double teams. Seriously - how do you block our line if he's on it? Four guys. Period. Cover 2 works like a dream with him in the mix. What the hell is 12-15 million when it buys you a superbowl?

    I don't know where this 20 million cap space figure comes from. Isn't it more like 35 after we sign Briggs and Forte when we throw in last years 8 million rollover? Do it. Peppers and Mario sandwich. Yes please. Make it rain. Win lose or draw it would be fun to watch.

  • Yup. Like I said some months back when I kick started the M.Williams bandwagon, since the Texans switched to the 3-4 Wade D, Williams might not be the that interested.

    He's a younger Peppers, period. The similarites are almost errie.

    He must be at that age when he begins looking at his health, impact and legacy, and if he were smart, he'd come to the Bears.

    It just makes too much sense.

    We should send his old bud Okoye down there with a Chicago Pizza.

  • Wow, the Patriots have 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders. Here come da defense 2 go wid da offense..... see that Jerry ? You see what they did there ?

  • The only thing Jerry sees is his cold, empty house.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hee hee... heeee heeee.

  • that's an every fucking year occurrence. What they do with those picks seems to have dropped off a bit, but man... how can you not be a contender every year with those kinds of drafts.

    Fuck me... and fuck jerry angelo... right in his blindassed squirrel face.

  • what sucks more is that the Pats switched to a 4-3 which means they're going to take quality guys off the board who could've gone to us.

  • Maybe they might give one up to us rather than pay out a bunch of money or just to up their number of picks? We could still get Konz and Burfict, or step up and get a tackle not named Mike Adams.

  • With the new cba rule.. paying rooks is not a problem.

  • Rex has a great team building exercise. What happens is... all the players send Rex pictures of their girlfriend's feet, and then he will pick out shoes for all of them.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that shit is creepy to me, I just don't get it.... feet?!? Why feet?

    I get butts, I get legs, I even get backs to some degree (and I obviously get boobs)... but feet? Why are they a sex object? To each his own I guess.

    (hypothesis - maybe because he hasn't been able to see his own since he was a youngster?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's hard to think of a less sexual part of the body. Kneecap? Thumb? How about a nice hot armpit?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    knees, backs of knees, necks... I at least see the aesthetics of those parts... but fucking feet?

    btw, here's shady's favorite riddle. Can you name 10 body parts that are only 3 letters?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ear eye toe lip ass
    arm leg hip tit ---
    other tit?

    Can I use symbols?
    ( y )
    ( l )
    What's the answer?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    And it better not be "lap."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    in no part order:

    1. hip
    2. Gum
    3. Eye
    4. Ear
    5. Rib
    6. Arm
    7. Toe
    8. Lip
    9. Leg
    10. Jaw

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I guess 'ass' is slang. Jaw is ok, but 'rib' is strictly internal. Tit is better. Gut works too. That makes 11.
    ear eye toe lip jaw gut
    arm leg hip tit gum

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I knew a chick in college that had a thing for elbows.
    I kid you not. She was someone else's headache.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Dude, kneecaps are sexy on non-blimp females. Dark females. The nape of the neck is my favourite though.

    Erm ... I'll get my coat ...

  • There's nothing sexy about kneecaps, unless they're down on the floor, up in the air, or wide apart. I don't really care what color they are.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I actually read somewhere that the part of the brain that has to do with sex is located very near to the part that controls the feet, so that the wires can get mixed up.

    Don't know how true it is, but it seems more biological than psychological....

  • For all the ass men out there, I present you butt cleav dress:

  • In reply to Crown:

    Ho.Ly.Sheite.... muslim.

    That is ridiculous. What would you do if you saw that on the street? Classic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to Crown:

    finger? nose? other?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That dress does nothing for me, at all, and I like booty. But it's a shape thing with me. I like the curves. That crack looks more plumberly than womanly to me.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I'm an ass man myself crunch, but there is nothing more revolting that a long crack.

  • In reply to Crown:

    you might like this then boys (psssst, she's the one in the middle):

  • In reply to Crown:

    Hot Damn!


    for you MB

  • seens it erik. thanks though, it's a good one.

  • Ok, so maybe there can be too much of a good thing:

  • Alright fellas. I'm heading up to Reno again this weekend. Who do you guys like in the UFC fights this Saturday?

    Last weekend Bears were at 20-1 to win the big game. Last year I got them at the beggining of the season at 34-1. Personell wise this is the exact same team at this point, maybe even slightly depleted with Knox etc. So maybe Vegas knows something we dont know.

  • Edgar (although I like henderson)
    Jackson (have to go with my boy, although sadly he's getting old/over)
    Okami (I guess)

    don't know or don't care about the others. Have a blast. Don't get into any testosteron fights while there... and watch out for all the maxes.

  • If we get a DE and WR alone we could do it. The 9-7 Giants??

  • I thought there was no point to sneaking into the playoffs...

  • MB,

    I may not be able to join you until Saturday, but we'll see tonight. Don't want to push my luck with the wife.

  • I gets it maings. It's ok, shady wasn't on last night, and I saw MBP but we didn't hook up because I think we're both tryin out some new moves for when we all get together.

    It's going to be a shoot 'em up maing. Johnny, will you join us?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Next week, I'm going to be a geographical bachelor (wife is taking my sweet pea to go see friends and relatives in the midwest), so I will be around non-stop starting tuesday night.'re right - I got some new gear now.

    Doc, you're going to love it. Have you had a chance to try out the single-player yet? I recommend the Special Ops Survival mode for easing into the controls and how to use the different gear. It's fun.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


    Sweet. We'll be both be sans wife and kids. Mine leaves on Saturday. Can't fucking wait!.

    Johnny, Shady, MB, don't you have relatives your wives can go visit?

  • fuck, tell me about it. no, sadly, I don't. They all live here for fuck sake. But I am going to africa week after next for two weeks by myself. That should be a nice break.

    Shady's a lone gunman, lad has nothing to worry about... lucky bastard.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Why do you go to Africa?

    I thought you lived in San Diego?

  • maybe my wife can go visit your wife's family ???

    I'm grasping at straws here.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i'll be on saturday. wife is going to wedding shower. I will also be on tonight after 1030pm. I will play like shit though because i will have at least 3 manhattans in me by then.

    PS- want whorish cheerleaders like in that Keanu Reeves football movie

  • Respect the cock, Doc. Seduce and destroy.

    We. Are. Men.

  • Not sure if this has been posted (new thread please, Jefe) but,....

    RIP Wife of Butter

  • This only seems to be floating around wingnutter sites for now:

    But, I do think there is some heavy dis-info going on. The 15,000 Iranian special forces (as if they had 1,000 elite soldiers) going to Syria, Syria in essentially a civil war now, and now all this sabre rattling over airstrikes against the Iranian nuke sites.

    Crazy stuff.

    The 3rd week of May, the G8 Summit is in Chicago. This place is already going to look like a fortress. If there is a shooting war in the Middle East by then, I don't even think I will be able to come into work.

    This is getting annoying.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wonder what all those Ron Paul Tea-Bagger "Libertarians" think of this...

  • Most of them love it. It's like a real life Tom Clancy novel to those peckerheads. It justifies their bunker in Wyoming they have a mortgage on, and their paranoia.

    For regular people like me, it sucks. As a lifelong (off and on) Chicagoan, the idea that we're looking at some crazy rerun of the '68 Democratic convention, it's offensive. The idea that a Middle East shooting war plus a G8 summit makes some sort of cocktail of violence is offensive. I don't want to see this city have anything happen to it. Let Seattle deal with it, those fucking hippies would probably love it. Grabowskis? Not so much.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was annoyed when the comics blew up Soldier Field for God's sake.

    First of all, take a look at this:

    Are you telling me Urlacher is just going to stand there like that with the field under attack? Fuck no, he's going to rip that super villian's head off and shit down his neck! Secondly, they attack during Bears warm-up? What kind of villians are they? Wait until the Packers are going to score - THEN make the field collapse.

    I do think it's interesting that the new Dark Knight movie ripped this idea off, however. Gave it to the fucking Steelers, though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Chicago is now only the 3rd most corrupt city in America. Whatever happened to the glory days?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I'm working on it Trac. Working on it. Gotta start at Loyola.

  • Butch and gp, them are some asinine comments. Ron Paul is the only one trying to stop the drumbeat of war with Iran. If you read any Libertarian publications like Reason or Cato they constantly talk about stopping these stupid wars. Not sure what your reading.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I know, that's why I wanted to hear Libertarians speak up, but like always, when the war drums beat, they tend to stay mum.

    So are you against the "interventionism" of us helping out Isreal against Iran then Fifth?

  • Absolutely against intervention, but I doubt that will happen. The US already has Iran flanked. There's a reason Ron Paul has more support from active military than any other Presidential candidate. We don't need another long term manufactured war. Israel can take of itself if it feels threatened.

  • I love this. Football fans willing to 'tackle" the tough issues of the day waiting on the draft. Ooohrah.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Ok. I am happy to stand corrected. I hope they don't want war. Most people I know that call themselves Libertarian are wackjobs.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's like poking the skinny kid in the schoolyard.

    No question they'll invade Iran, that's why Iraq was scaled down - they've been making the preliminary comments about it just like Iraq II. Next stop Venezuela. 30 trillion coming up.

  • For 1 Million Dollars, who gave Iran the technology?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Space Aliens?

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Yuri Orlov?


    Some bods that jumped off that list :

    DE Calais Campbell : I was impressed with the Cardinals defense this year, and he's only got 4 years on him.

    QB: Chad Henne, Matt Flynn

    DT : Paul Soliai. Animal. 5 yrs.

    WR : Marques Colston. 6 yrs. There's only three tall receivers available. V-jax will cost a bomb and Burress is a ten yearr vet.

    LB: Anthony Spencer. 6'4 255. 5 yrs. No 6 footers like Hawthorne.

  • LaRon Landry at SS?

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