Bears Hire Jeremy Bates to Coach the Quarterback

Bears Hire Jeremy Bates to Coach the Quarterback

The Bears exhausted as many options as they could in and around the NFL but ended up "settling" for the right man to coach their quarterback and coordinate their passing game: Jeremy Bates.

For those that will point to Bates' tenure as offensive coordinator in Seattle as a negative I say the following: who cares? Bates will not be coordinating the Bears offense. He will not be charged with installing an offensive game plan each week or with orchestrating halftime adjustments in the locker room. His job will be simply to tailor to the passing game to the strengths of his friend and former pupil Jay Cutler. His job will be ever more simply to make Jay Cutler happy.

This was the smart move.  For those in the media who once again wrongly wrote that Cutler and Bates were not as close as reported, time to check your sources. For those who yelped about Tice and Bates not being able to co-exist, time to check your information. Cutler has his man and the quarterback has taken another power step with the Chicago Bears franchise.

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  • First to say this is not done.

    Second to say get Marshall

    and the Trinity will be complete.

  • Artoo....Marshall. Vjak, Bowe all the above.....nice move!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    btw...wanted to put R2...see what I did there?

  • Amen Artoo, make it so.

  • yep, now all we need are guys to block for him and guys to actually catch what he throws them!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    DRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!! my GUARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and a Tackle!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Louis, Spencer, and C.Williams look like legitimate guards.

    We just need someone on the left side to step up his game.

  • artoo.....I question C.W. and his health...#1 draft how long on IR? Spencer I will hang on for L.L. so long farewell!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Lance Louis is a mauler. I want to see more of this guy. He destroyed Babin and Cole when we played the eagles.

  • one game....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I think the Seahawk game is the one I am looking at.

  • Nah Lobo, Louis got injured when he showed great speed in running down an interception - can't remember who - and he played hurt the rest of the year because there was either no one to replace him or he was hiding the injury. Dude's a baller that got bad press because people didn't realise he was playing hurt IMHO.

  • Kamerion Wimbley (play clip at about 1:30)

    Grampa Huge is a getting forgetful.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Hey, one play and your calling Pa forgetful?! Come on, like everyone remembered that play.


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Nice try, Artoo. Protecting your doddering old Grampaw. But it's time to put him in a home:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    and williams had a freak accident a la lach. They are both good.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    first year his back... remember?

  • I'd be cool with either Lance or Chris at LT, preferably Lance. Use Webb as a backup with whoever we draft - hopefully Konz. If we don't go Konz then Burfict would be sweet. Cook the books and get Marshall and Mario Williams in the there ... then start looking for Superbowl odds.

  • Patriot fans ripping into Wes Welker....fine we will take him....."f"ing ass-goblin pat fans

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Brady would never let him go. That is more false hope than Marshall coming here.

  • btw...I was just shaking my head on the fickle Pat fans...guy is aka Steve Largent like and they want him wont happen I know but if they are trowing him away throw him our way.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Yeah, like they even would have got to the Bowl without Welker.

  • but hope is what we got artoo...

  • Plus, we need a *big* receiver, I'm not pouring millions into a dwarf - no matter how Waddle-like he is.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    THAT is truly a laugh riot. Do those mopes think you GET to the Super Bowl if Welker doesn't snag triple-digit catches? You'd think they'd never WON a Super Bowl.

    I repeat my previous Super Bowl rant:

    I'm sure Myra Kraft was a WONDERFUL Lady, but I absolutely DETESTED the "Win One For Myra" storyline that was foisted on us. I mean, the woman DID enjoy THREE Super Bowl Championships during her lifetime. DON'T tell me I have to feel BAD because the Patsies couldn't win a 4th in her name. Especially since they are coached by a Hall-Of-Fame Prick & convicted Cheater.

    Spare me the manufactured pathos angle.

  • Waddle & Sylvy with GRINCHGECO!!! joking about Gonk shirtless doing the white man 's overbite dance!!

  • BradBiggs28 minutes agoIn #Bears press release, Jeremy Bates does not have title "passing game coordinator."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    we can call him "Squidgy the "f"ing space dog" all I care...just as long as Cutty and him get great output...


    I cannot wait for the Bears to come down here to TN!!!!! I am going to that game and you know what I will wear..

  • Cue Brando

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I like Gp. I like.

  • wow, shamless self-promotion Erik.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dude, All I am saying is get ready for a repeat, you love to bust my balls.

    My steel balls. Lmao

  • yes, I do.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Back off m'boy there ...

    Granpa Bolt.

  • Artoo,I'll be there for sure. Unless something goes terribly wrong and they schedule a date I cant possibly make I will be there and buy you a Beer.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    That will be awesome.

  • Btw, I was reading a lot of articles and everyone had written off us hiring Bates. The Bears organization sounded like they did not even want to interview him.

    That being said, we cannot give up our false hope for Marshall. If the Bears were willing to get Bates, I bet they are willing to get Marshall.

  • agree

  • check the Megatron 'opening' below erik, how insane would that be!

  • How would you guys feel about a Vjax (or Bowe) and manningham combo in FA? I like VJax more, because as you all know, I want a 6'5" 225+ guy at #1. Marshall or Anquan would be my wet dream, but both are highly unlikely.

    Then donate Roy to the Chi zoo, I looked it up and they don't have a newborn giraffe yet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    how about them apples gents:

    How much of a fucking coupe would that be? Holy sheite muslims.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Megatron wants a Fitz like deal. Yet - Fitz is overpaid. No wideout is worth that. Just my opinion.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I do no man. Was pep worth it?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow.. if we get him.. We would scare everyone.

    I like MB.

    One point though, the Lions would not let him go. Never..

    If they do.. holy cow.. I would break the bank for him.

  • yep, they're going to have to let avril, tullock or others go to keep him... all of which we could use

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dang. If we do not go after at least one of those guys, I would be shocked.

    Avril and Johnson are wanting big paydays.

    I would only pay C.Johnson the big bucks. Avril is a great compliment.

  • Getting Megatron would be 120 Mil and up.

    That's a lot of Mula.

    I don't trust one year wonder DEs, which is why I want M.Williams not Avril.

    Tuloch is solid, but we need to get young at LB.

    The Lions are not going to be as deep this year unless they have an A+ draft and some restructuring magic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So many of these guys are insanely overpaid.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    But in the end, by definition, they are worth exactly what they get paid.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Since Mario is UFA, I had hopes until his mega-catch at the Super Bowl.

    That may have moved his market price and the Giants resolve to keep him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    maybe GP. Can't keep 'em all.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Manningham is going to cost us too much in my opinion.

    I rather spend a lot on a number one than a lot for a number 2 who would be a number one on our team.

    Did that make sense?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Marshall is probably better than V-Jax and he'd be cheaper too because he already got his upfront cash. BM is probably 6M a year - that frees up more cash to get somebody else in.

  • Vjak over Manningham...the more I look into it big is better for Cutty..I know he had a great receiver in Marshall ( I know artoo it's very unlikely..but.....) but he needs someone to go up and get it...he's had smurfs for to long and he needs a fighter for the ball...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    BOTH lobo... both!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the blood just went to the wrong head thinking of having both...btw...I've fallen and I can't get up....!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    VJax loves jump balls.

    Manningham is ehh. Still better than others on our team.

    If we go the cheap route then I can see us getting Manningham.

  • Artoo......and Bowe? I like that Emery may have a couple of cards up his sleeve with that one.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    That would be another great option.

  • Colston is there, there's a few big dudes.

  • MB...Roy to Lincoln or Brookfield?...

    I would actually send him to the State Fair and have kids throw grapefruits at him and see if he could catch them.. the prize for no catches, to give the kids his shit ass way to get rid of all the inventory.

  • Form Da Site:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Cutler said that Bates was “very responsible” for his success in Denver.

    “He was very vital in my growth and my experience as a quarterback there,” Cutler said. “The last couple years he had full control of my development and our plays coming in.

    “He’s a grinder. He’s a guy that’s going to work extremely hard to find weaknesses in defenses and he’s going to be able to present it to us in a way that we understand and will be able to make plays where we can take advantage of those weaknesses.”

  • love the words find weakness in the D and present it to me...Martzy was........." f" that just drop seven and "f"er Roy will catch it....yeah thanks see how that worked out for us.

  • dabearsblog I would pay a million dollars to watch this Giants ceremony with Woody, Rex and Mr. T. #Jets

    This is pretty funny when you think about what Rexy said about the Giants. Cold.

  • I don’t know how long it will be up, so look now.

    That pic of the giants at the podium at their parade. Can you please look at eli fucking manning in those ridiculous old man glasses and member’s only jacket and tell me that dude looks like an nfl football player, never mind the SB MVP. Jesus Christo!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...He wanted to look older for the crowd and wore Archie's Member!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    MB...are you jealous cause he looks so swank???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • Zach Zaidman @ZachZaidman Close
    #Bears will not hire a 'passing coordinator.' The only vacancy remaining on the offensive coaching staff is offensive line coach.

  • Call Him...............
    Master Bates............
    Sure Bates........
    Guru Bates.........

    don't give a flying fuck just get Cutty into the zone any way you can.


  • bbbbbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    poor Eli and he had Archie's Old Man Shades and Member's Jacket on!!!

  • hilarious... but she was hot

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    or you can have her at the parade:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    how could aaron rodgers do this.

    BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! I still LOL every, single, time.

  • Speaking of Swank:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    is it cold out dear?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    don't love her mug at all... but really pretty rig.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the picture of slater in a leotard on down the page is funny too. That guy is a tool.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I saw that too MB and puked a little in my mouth....dufus...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    slater as a dufus not you MB.....

  • Look for Tice to try for this guy to backfill his old job:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...shit all you have to say is this:
    2008-2011 St. Louis Rams OL

    crikey all wood!!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    not to worried about whomever tice brings in for line coach. I'm sure he'll still have a heavy hand in it all

  • In reply to MB30SD:



    Fucking clowns, that's a whaleshark... they are going extinct. brilliant you bunch of fucking morons. No wonder we'll follow shortly behind them and all the other species we’re wiping out.

    Humans are indeed a fucking viruuus unto this planet.

    Bring on the apocalypse baby!

    (not bought into the pointless endangered animal killing thing? Ok, here’s one for you: a viruuus indeed)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Viruses don't chop their spawn into kindling.
    RE your first example - the following is pretty sickening:

    Click the tabs marked 'Price List' and 'Terms.' It costs $250 to kill a Monkey, $3000 for a Giraffe, $450 for an Ostrich, etc. The menu doesn't say how much it costs to kill a Hippo, Lion, Buffalo, Leopard, Rhino or Elephant.

    But the proprietor stated in a recent vanity article that an Elephant costs $45,000. That doesn't include:
    - Government trophy fees
    - The cost of alcoholic beverages and special catering.
    - Air charter costs and commercial air travel.
    - Hotel accommodations before and after the safari.
    - Gratuities
    - Crating, processing and documentation of trophies.
    - Transport of animals from the field.

    Your tax-break dollars hard at work.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was in awe of that fish this morning.

  • why...why..why...why...???????

    I WANT OL not an unproven WR #1....get Vjak,Marshall Bowe any o them please Emery!!!!



  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Wait Lobo.. patience. Free agency will tell all.

  • Ingram and Upshaw are great players for the future imo.

  • I know Artoo..I know ...damn I really can't wait to see the moves are new GM is about to do..FA here we come!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Those schmucks have zero understanding of the Bears if they think we draft receivers that high. Just wasting cyber-inches.....

  • This Bears offseason will shape up into 3 camps.

    1st camp. Sign a stud WR in FA, Vjax, Colston or Bowe and pick one of the cheaper ones up in FA or in the later rounds of the draft.

    2nd camp. Sign M.Williams then use the 1st to pick up a POTENTIAL stud WR in the 1st rd of the draft, aka Alshon, Floyd.

    3rd camp. The delusional tinfoil on head camp that thinks we can afford a Vjax AND M.Williams while making some improbable trades like Forte and Briggs for a 1st or Brandon Marshall.

    I'm in the 2nd Camp. I just look at our division (and it all starts there) and we got no pass rush against Rodgers or Stafford.

    We got two 4,000 yard passers in our division and unless we trust our Oline to hold up in a shoot out, we MUST put pressure on those guys.

    Getting a Peppers Jr. also automatically improves our somewhat suspect secondary and aging LBs.

    I understand the 1st camp, but do we really believe Peanut can keep shutting down Megatron or that our Cover 2 can magically deny TEs like Pettigrew, (Graham, Gronk, etc)

    Do we really want to see Jennings, Moore or Graham on the other Jennings, Jordy, or Finley?

    We need to rattle Rodgers and Stafford (a la Gmen with Brady) to even have a chance at the division, much less playoffs or SB.

    Championships start with the lines.

  • tin foil hat people will win out because as we speak we are brain washing Emery for that scenario......

    look into the magic eight ball and it will tell all.....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    That video made me sad

    It's like one of the muppets right after a divorce living in a crappy apt lol


  • Never a more true statement than that last sentence, 4ever.

    I still think the most important signing is Matt Forte.

  • 4th camp?

    Trade a 2nd/3rd and Knox for Marshall.

    Make Mario Williams a priority attempt in FA.

    Draft either Burfict or Konz, or pull off a deal where we can get both.

    Win superbowl.

  • As I recall, there are character questions for Burfict, so I don't see the Bears going after him.

    Konz would be a great choice and I'm still entirely in favor of beefing up the offensive line. A good LT is obviously a need, and if Webb continues to improve he could backup both sides as he has experience at both now. This assumes Carimi will be good, which is unclear.

    It is a pipe dream at this point to talk about any trade that includes Johnny Knox. Who in their right mind would give anything for a small receiver with a BROKEN BACK? Yeah, Knox would start as a returner on most teams, but it is less than certain that he will ever play again.

  • Camp 2 is fool's gold. It excludes you from drafting Konz or Burfict and therefore missing out on our top two needs going forward. Garza and Lac have no decent backups. Spencer (our backup center essentially) is plauying RG. Lac has nobody behind him. We can get a stud WR in FA that doesn't need three eyars to get with the program. We are not building for the future - we need to win NOW.

  • STOP THE INBREEDING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    or you MB..

  • IF we do go the 1st camp route, then I think it's absolutely imperative to pick up a LT in the 1st round.

    A guy like (T) Mike Adams in order to survive the shootouts.

    Brady and Manning didn't have 7th rounders protecting their blind side for the last decade or so.

  • 4E85...that's what I am saying hard to have a shoot out went your QB is on his arse......

    thank you seven step drop.$#$%#!@%$#!@$#!$!!!!!!!!!

  • Again, when do we draft our future Olin and Brians ?

  • Lance can play LT. CW can play LT.

  • Those are long term needs Irish.

    We just resigned Garza who I think was a PB alternate. Spencer is in the wings and still in his twenties.

    You also have to put into play Edwin Williams and Levi Horn, both of whom Tice is high on.

    If Lach goes down, no one in the entire NFL, yet alone draft, can replace him who's not named Willis.

    Lach, Peppers and Cutler are the difference between an 8-8 team and a SB team; those are the guys who just can't go down for us.

    Hopefully our new GM has a good eye and can pick up a gem at LB or C in the later rounds. It's been done before, esp at those positions.

    But for now, we need immediate impact players at impact positions. LT, WR, DE, CB, S.

  • Clarity has returned to our passing game with the Bates hire. Things are coming into focus boys.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • WHAT!!!!???? when did we trade Peppy to Detroit? Detroit wishes...

    NFC North All-Star Team
    In the box for Peppy (DET)

  • From the File of "Who gives a rats ass?"

  • do you think I can say I was the Waterboy for the Patriots and get this trip? lol

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    you're a sick man lobo

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    He must want a spanking.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Yep, the cartel boys would love to have that...they'd make sure there was a good supply of "the cure for what ever ails you"on hand for those boys. They really need a "get away" vacation from the horseshit game they played Sun nite.

  • Bates ... what took them so long? An offense being run by sensible adults - about time. Now let's see if Emery gets it and gets some help on the o-line and couple of impact receivers. This could get interesting.

  • In reply to ccia:

    Is it a Martz scenario? They go around the houses when a prominent candidate is avaialble and then eventually go back and sign them ... because there's more than meets the eye.

  • This scenario was different.

    Everyone was saying that he wasn't even on the interview list and said that the connection between him and Cutler was overrated.

    Idk..this has more of a weird vibe to it.

  • In my mind this move was Lovie's, and I like it. This dude Jeremy Bates was supposed to be our OC after Turner was fired, but he decided to join that asshat Pete Carroll in Seattle, leaving us with Mad Mike.

    What intrigues me most will be watching the dynamic between the three: Cutler, Tice and Bates. The Cutty, Martz, Day combo last season certainly had issues with scheming, audibles and timeliness of the play calling but I have a suspicion the majority of those issues stemmed with Martz. "Tell martz fuck you!" Remember when the sideline mics picked that gem up from Cutler? haha

  • In reply to Shady:

    That was a strange scene. Cutty has to work with the guy that reamed him on network TV. Throw in the amazing Shane Day - whose last job was photocopying playbooks for the Niners, and that is one CF of a situation.

    Bates + Cutty working out the passing game together, with Tice looking after blocking/running/general offensive philosophy .....sounds like a winner to me. We just need Emery to hit a homer in FA and get some roster backups in the draft and we're looking really sweet. Next season there could be actual realistic expectation to succeed rather than just sniffing the kool-aid.

  • No one kill me or try to say I am crazy. Just think this out.

    What if we traded Briggs for Marshall. Straight up.

  • It's good to talk.

    Here's the dealie. We trade Briggs and we have exactly one LB worth a fuck. One. Lac goes down injured and we instantly become the weakest LB corps in the league.\

    Now, trade Knox and a 2nd for Marshall .... sweet. But Lance ...? Nah.

    We should have pushed the boat out for Poz last season, I think he was one of the biggest tacklers statistically this year.

  • I know. I was assuming we would draft a LB because there are a lot of good LB's in this years draft.

    Upshaw, Hightower, Burfict, and many more that I believe could fill Briggs shoes. Big if but if you can swing the back broken Knox and third to Miami. I would bite.

  • erik, what's up with the briggsy hate man, he's just trying to get his.

    in all honesty, he's our best playmaking LB when he's not throwing games on purpose. 7 time probowler maing... SEVEN!

  • The best way to improve is to add talent without giving up any. Briggs ain't going anywhere. We have a big bog GM now and I can't see him making a move like that.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Agreed. He's not going to come-in and pull Josh McDaniels retardo-moves. Move Knox + pick for Marshall and this thing is over, in the bag. Get talent in, don't give up any. Absolutely.

    Briggs and Forte are going nowhere.

  • It likely won't happen... unless Briggs gets ugly with the contract talk. Miami has a solid D that respects a good linebacker (Jason Taylor). Briggs could certainly find a worse place to finish his career. And the cap issues with Briggs and Marshall cancel each other out in the trade.

    It could happen... possibly with some draft position swaps as well depending who has better bargaining power based on contract talks (maybe our lower third for Miami's fourth, or trade fourths, something like that).

    We'd have to draft two defensive starters with out first four picks for sure, and bring in some FA talent at linebacker. Neither of those is outside the realm of possibility.

    Dunno, it would be a big switch in emphasis for the team's cap strategy, but it could make sense as part of a larger plan.

  • Great idea to me.Peyton should go to the 49ers,no one still believes in Alex Smith and the defense for the 49ers was very good.

    Think about it

  • Easy divison to win in. Their oline is pretty decent. He has a run game and a defense.

    Weather is always nice and that makes it easier on a qb.

  • It makes our trip to the Bowl a harder one if we're up against Turtlehead rather than Smith.

  • I just can't see Harbaugh going after Peyton. I think that would be the wrong way to go for him. Right now, the 9er's have chemistry and a lot of players would be pissed at a move like that. The Niners didn't go to the Super Bowl because of their KR blunders, going after Peyton would be highly illogical.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Who would you rather pay more Trac?

    Peyton or Smith?

  • Let me count the ways.

    1. As recent as a week or 2 ago, Peyton still didn't have any velocity on his throws.
    2. Jimmy H. is building his team now, bringing on Peyton delays his forward progress because even if Peyton can improve his velocity, Jim would have to change up his scheme to fit Peyton.
    3. Harbaugh doesn't want a salty dog that was someone else's golden child, he wants to go out and get his qb for the future that will be a long term fixture if Smith doesn't pan out.
    4. Smith's team mates love him. Bringing on Peyton would disrupt team chemistry.
    5. Peyton, if healthy, will be going to a team where the qb position is a major problem. I'm thinking team like Seattle, Miami or Tampa.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Why is anyone talking about Peyton Manning? His own team doesn't want him. He's done. He's one Pepperami-Briggsy sandwich away from being spam-in-a-chair.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I've heard that the 49rs west coast offense isn't the best fit for Manning. And even though Peyton is a sizeable upgrade from Smith, the bigger issue there is the lack of WRs. I imagine a couple of the Indy FAs could follow Manning, but that might tick a lot of returning starters off in San Fran. Dunno, sounds like it could go the way of Philly or NYJ: lots of talent, but chemistry kills the team's record.

  • Grams will pwn you noobs:

  • In reply to Shady:

    It keeps your brain young, and NintenCats can't eat you.

  • I'm on Kurt Warner's boat and I'm selling T-shirts. 2 rings? So what?

  • You know what Irish? I could see Eli being compared to Plunkett when it's all said and done, it kinda fits.

  • Be careful Irish.

    If Cuter were ever to win 2 SBs, that's the same argument that would be used to keep him out of Canton...

  • But I'd love that sonofabitch so hard and so much that the whole world could feel it ... and Canton could kiss the right-hand side of my royal Irish arse. Two more Lombardis for my boys ... a girl can dream.

  • Chargers waiving LT Marcus McNeill?
    By Mark J. Miller

    The San Diego Chargers finished the season 8-8 and out of the postseason so now they will start to rebuild for next year with between $10 million and $15 million worth of room under the expected salary cap of around $120 million, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.
    The team is expected to add another chunk of money to that by waiving left tackle Marcus McNeill and his $10 million salary, the paper notes. The 28-year-old Chicago native's salary isn't guaranteed; he has to have a team doctor clear him to play in mid-March in order for that to happen and that remains doubtful, according to the Union-Trib.
    McNeill has been with the team since being selected in the second round of the 2006 draft out of Auburn. Since then, he's started 82 games and had two fumble recoveries.

  • Artoo..this is the part that worries me:

    McNeill needs medical clearance by March 15 to guarantee his $10.5 million salary, but Chargers doctors won't be giving the green light after neck and back injuries limited him to 20-of-32 games the past two seasons.

    and yes, I know this comes with the territory.........but I am not sure truthfully


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    McNeil is going to look for a team that wants to take a chance on him. I think the Bears could be that team, but not for $10.5 million guaranteed. I'd be fine with $10.5 million if he started 16 games though, so there could be room to restructure.

    And if McNeil starts at LT for 16 games and Webb and Carimi compete for the right side, we will see big improvement from the O-line.

    But that's a big if, as others have said.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    NBIT...agree with improvement but there is a big but!

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    NBIT...two simple words...FUCK WEBB!!!!!!

  • Two questions.

    1) How injured is McNeil?

    2) How much will he cost?

    IF he is cleared and IF he takes an injury discount for a year or two, that would be a huge coup for Da Bears.

    If we signed McNeil, than that would make Webb a solid swing Tackle for both banged up McNeil and BearJew.

    Also, if we got McNeil, that would give us a lot of options in the Draft.

    Suddenly S, CB, LB and G/C would become real options in the first round.

  • If he wants ten million I say give that to mario Williams. Lance Louis is looking for a spot if Carimi goes back in at RT and he's too good to leave off the line. Somebody for the love of God jsut accept that Webb will never be a pass-blocker and get him the hell away from my QB's blind-side. I think Tice would have made the move already if Carimi hadn't gone down.


  • my favorite:

  • Meanwhile, former Broncos tight end Tony Scheffler -- now with the Detroit Lions -- tweeted: "Don't like seeing Jeremy Bates in the NFC North..... #greatcoach"

  • I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Walter lays out our needs, but I see more than one item I disagree with.

    1) Yes LT is a need, but probably not a realistic spot to fill as I have posted previously. The bigger danger there is wasting money or draft picks on a reach that doesn't pan out.

    2) Tight End is not a high priority need for us. Its trendy in the NFL to have stud TEs, but not worth overpaying. We can resign an FA or draft in the mid-rounds and be just fine. Look at San Fran and the Pats - TEs are great, but the lack of a true WR deep threat will get you every time.

    3) He over-values Izzy (most of us undervalue him). He'll be resigned, but he's not the solution to our DE issues.

    4) He over-value Kalil Bell. Decent backup RB, I'd like to see more two RB sets with Forte and Bell both threatening the chip block into a pass catching route that the modern TEs are famous for. But I don't see him as a top 3 priority in team free agents.

    5) He undervalues Steltz who is a solid role-player at FS. Certainly more solid than Tim Jennings.

    6) He completely misses the point on Corey Graham, who is an absolute must re-sign.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    agree on most of what you said NB. Most certainly #6.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I like what #4 on his list expressed 100%

    Interior Lineman: Chris Spencer was a sieve at right guard; he allowed the third-most pressures in the NFL last year. The Bears can either draft a right guard to replace him, or a center so Roberto Garza can move back to Spencer's position. Both Peter Konz and Cordy Glenn will be options at No. 19.

    I WANT KONZ......bring in another badger with the BearJew!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    and this too:

    Left Tackle: I think it's safe to call J'Marcus Webb a lost cause at left tackle. He was guilty of a whopping 12 sacks and 14 penalties in 2011.

    FUCK YOU WEBB!!!!!

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    #5 I was really really impressed with Steltz. I felt he outpeformed C. Harris, Merriweather, Wright, and it wasn't even close.

    Steltz is also a suberb SP teamer.

    By now, he must know this system like the back of his hands, which can counter balance his lack of speed.

    Wright has proven that speed without awareness is a waste.

    Like the old saying goes, "Youth is wasted on the young"

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Am I the only Kellen Davis fan in the world? Seriously, his highlights reel is insane. We have two 6'7 tight ends. Two. Mad Martz just chose to ignore them as the rest of the league began embracing Ron Turner's philosophy of tight ends.... but wait and see what happens when a former tight end is calling the plays.

    Two big ends and Brandon Marshall ? Good luck to the teams trying to cover them ... with Forte waiting in the backfield.

  • damn, these are super, superfly:

    NB, I think you should rock these to your next court date.

  • So do you think MA tweeted LDL & say thanks for the memories......................oh btw my ring fits great to bad your losers and you don't have one?

  • Fucking hilarious!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    what kind fucked up world is this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    TACO FEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • I got this letter today from Goodell via email. No mention of CTE or concussions.


    To NFL Fans:

    Now that another remarkable NFL season has concluded, let me express my gratitude on behalf of all 32 NFL teams for your incredible support. Record numbers of you watched at home, made your way to the stadium, and connected with the NFL in numerous other ways during the 2011 season. Your love of football is what makes the NFL special.

    We are proud of the quality of the game today. From the individuals and team skills on display in every game to the record-breaking achievements of future Hall of Famers, the 2011 season was extraordinary on many levels.

    It finished up with some of the most exciting playoff games of recent years leading to a tense, drama-filled Super Bowl between the Giants and Patriots that was the most-watched show in the history of television. What a tribute to our players, coaches, and fans!

    As good as it’s been, I believe the NFL’s best days are ahead. Our responsibility in leading the league is to protect and enhance the bond between our game and the passionate fans who sustain it. We know we have to earn your trust every day and prove we are worthy of your amazing support.

    Our commitment to improve everything we do is ongoing. We are not done yet. From the game on the field to the fan experience at home -- and everything in between -- there are ways we can do even better. We owe it to you, the fans, to believe in better and strive for more. Our game has always evolved and that will continue. I encourage you to visit our new web site – – to explore how the game has improved over the past century. There are more good changes to come.

    Our mission is captured very simply in these four words:
    Forever forward. Forever football. Thank you once again for your passion and commitment to the game we all love.

    Roger Goodell

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...between the lines say

    " Thanks for all the $$$$ you have given to the NFL but we aren't done yet until we get $15.00 for a stadium Hot dog" and then some, don't be shy to give us your credit card and we will keep it on file and hit it weekly." oh btw fuck you! XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX Rog

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Hugs and kisses. LOL.

  • I know that Rosenbloom is now being given the same treatment as ESPN on this site, but I happen to think his article on the Bates hire is pretty spot on with a lot of people's thinking around these parts.

    Apologies if posting this link will cause the world to implode:,0,4775045.column

  • In reply to evantonio:

    A stopped clock is right twice a day.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    tee hee hee...tic toc

  • In reply to evantonio:

    I liked this smart ass remark by him on his twitter.

    "And if ESPN ever gets a Super Bowl, the halftime act will be Yankees-Red Sox. "

  • here's a list of the top 100 FA this year:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We had more than of few of these lists last year and look what that got us MB. Hurd, Williams, Barber. Jerra got lazy and raided one teams rubbish bin. Hopefully we go after Mario. I would be seriously stoked if that happens. I think this year is Cutty's turn for a solid FA signing and I wouldn't be surprised if Emery swings a deal for Bowe. Not sure Brandon Marshall will get signed by the Bears but don't think it will happen for a variety of reasons.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I still think The Barbarian is a good one..I would like to keep him...but we will see.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    last year is last year Trac... hence the whole angelo firing and new GM hiring.

    from everything I read about Emory the one (of the two) things that stood out is his ability to evaluate talent well. Our needs have been painfully obvious to everyone but jerry angelo for 4+ years now. It’s time to see if we finally have the right man to fill them this year.

    And while you can't judge a new GM by one off season, this year will go a long way to helping us understand just how much power he has at halas, and how good a talent guy (and possibly an influencer if he has to talk lovie out of some fucking more pool jumpers) he really is.

    I'm excited. At least there’s finally hope for a good draft/FA, where before there was none. I'm pulling for you phill!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you know the drill by now

    Dear baby jebus,

    my favorite out of all the jebuses

    shine your grace on thee, with possible FA's for Emery.


    oh btw of course # 8

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    lobo...loooobo. You home sick this week maings? You've been on fire!

    you want Vjax, Colston, AND Bowe? Common maings... pick one.

    There is so much talent out there this year. How about these guys:

    - Colston (didn't know he was 6'5" 225 (they can't keep brees, nicks, AND colston... they'll give up Colston before the other two)
    * (or stevie J)

    - I'm down with mario, although avril would be just as good in my mind if not too expensive.... and the lions have 3 or 4 other high-end FAs that they need to resign.

    - Carlos rodgers?!?! He's 31, but played a hell of a year and could instantly be our answer at the other CB position

    - Jarred Gaither at LT. I think McNiel is too old and injured. Gaither was also injured but he's a house and is very young.

    - Curtis Lofton to play with/spell Lach. Dude is 25 and he's a BEAST!

    - How about Michael Griffin, at S for the Titans... I think he was a pro bowler this year wasn't he?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB.....Winter is usually a down time for me, I stay in the Studio so I have more time to hop on the IN-EAR-NETS!!!!!lol

    as for picking one over the other...well

    would love VJAK but understand with the head case thing and LDL

    now Coulston has the same build but less of a head case..and with what I read on the may be tough for them to keep him

    MARIO ...YES!!!YES!!!YES!!!! him and Peppy as bookends make a fuckdodgers sandwich!!!!

    would love a LT..... McNeil as I posted earlier not sure with the clearance of the doc's

    I love your list damn it's like going to the Flip Side Bar...A TACO FEST!!!!!!!!! lol

    I guess I am just finally excited about our off-season and maybe we can get to the next level,,,

  • Does anybody know if the Bears can still franchise Forte if some team offers him crazy money?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Trac...I believe they can fran him no matter what.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I'm also getting the felling he will accept knowing that there maybe a bigger deal in the works with E-man.

    ..........Interesting how a new perspective happens when one un-clenches one's hand and the other is receptive.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    "It depends on the motive of (the franchise tag)," Forte said Thursday

    Adding further,

    "If they are doing the franchise tag just to get more time in order to negotiate a long-term deal then I would be OK with it.


  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Isn't that the whole point of franchising a player? You're locking them in for a year ?

  • Sort of.

  • I do not believe that is the best strategy. I get DEs probably have the best chance of contributing right away, but we should address it in FA, we already have plenty of depth with melt, paella, toe, adio, etc...

    BradBiggsabout an hour agoRT @MattBowen41: WR, DE, LT and CB. Still see Bears targeting D-Line at No. 19. RT @ThatTrash: @MattBowen41 #Bears biggest needs in draft?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...agree.................I just don't get it either...they still think we have Glitchy....and going after the DE

    I think E..will look to O before D...

  • Well good luck with that Tampa WTF!!!!!!!:

  • can any one explain to me why everyone keeps say "We need to Copy the Blue Print of the G-Men"

    1. VICIOUS D- hmmmm if the can't score on you how can the other team win

    2. RUN THE ROCK---duh? if you slam the rock down the opponents throat and have 3/4 of the time of possession..odds you win

    3. LIMITED TURN OVERS- again you give the opportunity for your opponent to have the ball and score........ yeah your going to lose

    last but not least I've been hearing this since a tadpole in Pop Warner League........

    Offense wins games / Offense Sells Tickets

    But Defense wins Championships

    Is that not what the G-Men did, just follow the quote?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Weren't they like the worst rushing team in the league this year?

    This is the team that lost to the Seahawks, Eagles and twice to the Redskins. 9-7 teams are not to be copied.

    We'll kick the crap out of the Giants next year. Our D will expose Eli as the turd he is, and their D won't be any match for what we have on O. Next season is our season.

  • These guys are interesting, and I found this to be pretty damn cool.

    Corm, Doc, Canada... so where does this sit in the music spectrum?

    (ps. The lead singer's a damn decent driver)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It wouldn't play for me. Sometimes links won't play in Canada. It said it's not available in some areas. Oh well. Fucking Commies!

  • one more thing to the list MB...and I saw the tweet from BM to JC

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    “Maybe down the road, we may have some extra picks, and we may be able to trade for him,” Marshall said.

    I'm not so sure about Marshall now ... he must be really stupid if he thinks we're trading golden balls.

  • I'm fond of #2 & #3 scenario on Mock Draft...not #1 go to FA for this.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I would not trade Briggs for Blackmon (or to move up and get Blackmon) is a very interesting idea. I have really mixed feelings about trading a team leader for a rookie reciever (they are so risky), but it would be one way to exit a potentially ugly contract dispute and free up even more cap space for some FA moves.

    He's giving too much for Marshall, especially if we already trade Briggs for Blackmon.

    He's also giving up too much (probably next year's rounds 2-4) to make Hightower and Marshall happen. This is a superbowl or bust draft for a team that has a lot of needs but that can stay competitive during the retooling process with smart drafting.

    He also does not address the O-line anywhere in the top 3 rounds (2 WRs and a LB swap). In fact he doesn't draft o-line at all. That's not gonna fly.

    This team will not get better by basically only improving one position in the top 3 rounds.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    MB will like this.

    Blackmon is being compared to Boldin in terms of style and play.

  • Bate Hard.

    No Manningham. He is going to get overcompensated by some stupid organization based on the fact Cruz and Nicks were double teamed in th SB and he made one Tyree-like catch.

    Let us not be that stupid organization.

    I want Malcom Flloyd. You can get him for 1/5 the price of VJax and dude is 6'5. Just the big body that we need. He would have been used more if it wasnt for Gates and Jackson.

  • In reply to Crown:

    crown... my... man.

    As you know, Floyd has been my #1 ask for 2 years now. I've given up. Just don't think it will happen, and he's been pretty badly injured the last couple years. Finally, he too has benefited greatly from double teams on vjax and gates.

    But, if we can find a way, I'd love to have him... but I'd want another guy too, maybe colston. How’s that for a duo, Floyd and colston.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good points brew. I will defer to you on SD WRs. Floyd and Colston would be tremendous.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I had Colston in FF. He was often injured and for awhile, wasn't integrated well into the Saints plans. He made a late season comeback.

  • In reply to Crown:

    I don't think you could get Floyd cheap. SD were shopping V-Jax ... not Floyd. He's a keeper. There's no question we'd be better off financially trying to get Marshall with the condition of his contract. Philbin would give him up and we've got receivers to trade also.

    And no Manningham. A Giants receiver becomes less outside that group, not more. We need size, I'm tired of saying it and people are tired of hearing it, but it's been my crusade for years like Lobo's guards. APrt one is done - Angelo's gone. Now let's get Cutty those weapons he needs so that no one is talking silly talk about turds like Eli Manning again.

  • Colston has been in the league a suprisingly long amount of time, but he would undoubedly be a more viable option than alligator arms Roy boy.

  • Men!!! didn`t watch the SB??? Round 1: Mike Adams LT or the best WR aviable and Cliff Avril and the best WR aviable from FA

  • In reply to elcaney:

    You do know that Avril tried to kill Cutler with a helmet shot to the chin in the last game in Detroit, right?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    one more reason to contract him: to keep him out of Cutler, weaking the lions dline and grab a player who is getting better with years and (still 25). it would be better Mario Williams but I consider save money for a elite reciver. in case of a corner we still have 2 & 3 rounds for the best aviable.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I want my man Lance and Carimi at bookends this season.

    Webb is a liability to the franchise golden boy. I don't care if you can run block, if you can't look after the goose that lays the golden eggs then get the fuck off my line.

  • Irish, I love you man, but you crazy if you think Louis will be a LT and if Tice would start Louis over Webb. Not happening unless something drastic goes down.

  • Webb is a RT playing LT isn't he? And he sucks at it. If it's Lance at LT over Webb being on the line, Lance all day.

    Or ..... move CW back to tackle and insert Lance at guard. Anything that results in Webb sitting on a bench is good for Cutler.

  • Lance and Carimi on the right side of the line makes the most sense - by a mile. Tice has seen more than enough of Webb at LT now that if HE doesn't think he's good enough to be starting and covering Jay's blindside, then the Bears will absolutely address the position this offseason.
    We do all agree that a) Tice is the undisputed OC this year (no passing game "coordinator"). Right?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Tice loves Webb.

    Webb is our LT unless someone unexpectedly drops to us..According to Tice.

  • That was my point, Artoo.

  • Fellas- all this talk of free agency and nobody is mentioning how bad our DB's got burned last year. Raiders game? Broncos game? Big plays that broke our back. All I ask from the new GM is he gets a stud DB. This team lives and dies off of D

  • agree sac... hence my ask for a DB in Rd 1 and a FS in FA.

  • can improve the secondary by improving the D-line. just sayin...

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Absolutely. Mario Williams should be #1 on our list in the off-season. Marshall next. That should be 18 Million right there. Instant pass rush and HUGE improvement to the defensive backfield's performance and our offense .... but we'd still have the cap space to look after Briggs/ Forte. Want more cap space? Trade Pep.

  • yup. trade pep so that teams can focus on williams while the rest of the d-line does nothing. it'll be sweet.

    or keep them both. but i'm not ready to throw my hat into the mario williams ring just yet. we don't know if the texans are going to let him get to free agency and even if they are, i'm not too sure how i feel about having the 2 highest-paid DEs in the league (please note i haven't looked this up so i don't know if peppers is the highest paid DE. it just seems like he would be with that contract).

    is alonzo spellman still playing? he had a big wingspan.

  • Irish, trading Pep would be like trying to trade Holmes or Asougmha.

    Their contracts are too much to pay and they would be better off keeping them.

    Remember why the Skins kept Hanyesworth for so long? It was mainly because of the money they still had to pay him.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Yes, you can to a point.

    The pass rush cannot get there in time when the qb literally throws it up to the WR the moment the ball hits his hands. Now this doesn't happen all the time but Peppers usually just misses a lot of sacks by a second.

    If we could get Ingram to play opposite of Peppers.. we could look dangerous.

  • what in the complete fuck is this absolute bullshit?!

    What in thee fuck is this world coming to man. this is fucking completely inane.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    social media illness?!?!? Are you fucking serious?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No. It's not serious.

    If it has a cause, it will be in this line:

    "A team of environmentalists, led by Erin Brockovich, are testing soil samples to see if the illness could be related to a chemical spill from a train wreck near the school years earlier. "

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Or this:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that I get. Holy fucking shit, did you see that dude light his water on fire?

    ...ok, so why only girls from that school? I smella scheme to get out of school. Clever little fuckers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Actually, Leroy NY is right in Fracking Alley,-77.805176&spn=9.577126,19.665527

    Another possibility is that all the girls had some fucking vampire pact to eat Jimsom Weed. That would cause Tourette's like that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    jimsom weed... interesting.

    that shit is all over san diego.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    In fairness, that's all Ohio valley madness.

  • Tim Holt as off.line coach

  • Link Please!

  • On cell. Its on twitter though

  • psssssst, look down $


    Awesome, and shockingly he's from Tampa Bay!?!?! Can you believe it?

    10th on the list ain't bad though:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That second link is the top rated O-lines according to NFL stats MB?

    Sure looks like it, which is interesting as they rank.

    1. Bills
    2. Saints
    3. Titans
    4. Bengals
    5. Raiders

    What I do like is that TB gave up only 64 QB hits. Bears gave up 87 while Rams gave up 114! Ouch. And the experts wonder why Bradford "regressed".

  • I watched a RAMS game this year. Bradford ended up on the ground in the fetal position after it. Poor guy.

  • 2nd tier FAs...

    26. Brent Grimes, CB, Falcons

    27. Robert Mathis, DE, Colts

    28. Jared Gaither, T, Chargers

    29. Scott Wells, C, Packers

    30. Dashon Goldson, S, 49ers (franchise tag candidate)

    31. Curtis Lofton, ILB, Falcons

    32. Reggie Wayne, WR, Colts

    33. Fred Davis, TE, Redskins

    34. Brandon Lloyd, WR, Rams

    35. Dan Connor, ILB, Panthers

    36. Sione Pouha, DT, Jets

    37. Ben Grubbs, G, Ravens

    38. Josh Scobee, K, Jaguars (franchise tag candidate)

    39. Erin Henderson, LB, Vikings

    40. Tyvon Branch, S, Raiders

    41. Jason Jones, DT, Titans

    42. Steve Weatherford, P, Giants

    43. Matt Prater, K, Broncos (franchise tag candidate)

    44. David Hawthorne, ILB, Seahawks

    45. Cory Redding, DT, Ravens

    46. Jarret Johnson, OLB, Ravens

    47. Michael Griffin, S, Titans

    48. London Fletcher, ILB, Redskins

    49. Mario Manningham, WR, Giants

    50. Kendall Langford, DT, Dolphins

    51. Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Broncos

    52. Connor Barth, K, Buccaneers

    53. Barrett Ruud, ILB, Titans

    Read more:

  • reggie wayne. remember when that dick torched our defense for a TD in the superbowl? i hope his anus falls off.

  • Whoa Nelly! London. Fletcher. I know he's 36 but plug the roster man. That would be sweet.

  • Okay, a scenario:

    We offer Marcus McNeil $5 million guaranteed, $100K for every game he starts, $150K on top of that for every game he starts at left tackle (capping out at $9 million base if he's our starting LT all 16 games), plus another $1-3 million in statistics based incentives (sacks/pressures allowed, etc.). With a great season, he does a little better than the $10.5 SD would owe him.

    We draft Konz in round 1, and pick up a veteran swing man in FA. So we have Konz/Garza at center, CW/Vet/ + CS or EW at guard (only one of those 4 starts if Garza plays guard), and Carimi/Webb at RT. That's eight roster spots on what would be a very improved line.

    Then we pick up Bowe as our other big FA move and pay Forte, devoting something like $12-14 million between the two of them. This basically exhausts our cap space other than minor pickups.

    Rounds 2, 3, 3, & 4 all go to picking up four (or three with trades) players for the defense, basically best available, plus one more reciever. We need two reciever pickups this off-season as we're losing Williams, Hurd and maybe Knox.

    Example Draft:
    2 - Andre Branch (DE, Clemson)
    3 (plus our 5th to trade up) - Xavier Rhodes (CB, Florida State)
    3 - Danny Trevathan (OLB, Kentucky)
    4 - Tim Benford (WR, Tennessee Tech)
    6 - Jake Stoneburner (TE, Ohio State)
    7 - Jack Crawford (DE, Penn State)

    We tell Briggs there is no cap space to pay him this year, but if he wants to restructure we can add a year or two onto his contract (I think he has 2 years left). If he refuses, we tell him he can look for a trade and try to get a middle first rounder for him. I could see, for example, New England giving us one of their two low first rounders for him and possibly also a little more (like a trade up of say a 3rd for a 4th). We use that 1st round pick to draft another linebacker and still go after a second LB like Trevathan in the third.

    Net result:
    Offense improves at the O-line and at WR, but ties up most of our available cap space. We would need to bring back Bell and give the TEs a chance to compete with the rookie, but Forte is happy and ready to work. We probably look at some undrafted FAs as well for RB and TE. We also need to bring back McCown and Enderle at QB unless another vet FA pops up - but there is likely no money for a bigger name like Orton.

    Defense gets a lot younger with hopefully 2-3 new starters and an immediate replacement for Briggs if he walks. Defense has a solid prospect bookend for Peppers, and a partner for Peanut in the secondary. Steltz and Wright probably continue at safety, but improved corner and linebacker play will make them look better automatically. Downside is we cannot pay Izzy if wants a big payday, though he would really be excellent as one of our three main DEs. We draft no new blood at DT, but hope that one of the 5 or so guys on the roster now (Paea) can improve over the off-season.

    Specials hopefully also sees 2-3 new contributors from the mid to late round picks. I have no idea who they would be.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    If we are able to get a first round pick from anybody by trading Briggs then it should get done.

    I doubt you could get him for a 3 or 4th round.

  • I would absolutely keep Briggs over another 3rd or 4th rounder. If we got a second rounder still in the top 40, it'd be tempting, but I still think that Briggs and Lach have a chemistry that is really valuable to our team. When we're really clicking you see those guys on the sideline getting each other pumped and its infectious.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    If Izzy wants a bonanza payday at his age then good luck and so long, Iz.

  • Honestly, if Bowe, McNeil and Forte all get paid and we keep Brigg's contract, we might not have the space for even a moderate contract for Izzy. $3-4 million a year, for example, could be too rich, but another team with cap space could offer a big enough bonus to pull him away.

    Going off of Artoo, that is a reason to consider trading Briggs. We free up quite a bit of cap space (thereby keeping Izzy and maybe making another veteran pickup), and get pretty good draft pick in the process.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    IF we cut Barber, which I don't want to , and Omiyale or players like him. It will free up a lot cap space.

    To be honest, if we don't get a discount from Izzy, I say let him go. Trading Briggs and Knox will free up some room to make another impact FA.

    Granted Briggs and Urlacher play great together.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    We have a pro bowl LB that's costing the Bears peanuts. Letting Briggs slip out of his contract would not be a very shrewd GM move on Emery's part. I don't see him going anywhere.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I don't see the Bears making any noise in FA for O-line players NB. Remember what Tice said a few weeks ago? Unless a high caliber player falls to us in the draft, "we're all set". WR and DL & DB's will get most of the attention in the first 3 rounds.

  • Would someone correct me if I'm wrong...but the only viable WR we have right now is Mr. Bennet,,so we actually need three or four starting WR for this year..right? I don't think Johnny will be coming back anytime soon, Hester is a failed experiment at WR, and that idiot from Dallas can go back to Dallas or just retire and save anyone else the false hope.

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    I still wonder what Hester might do with an offense run by someone who can adjust their system to the talent at hand. Maybe we have one of those now?

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    Hester is a failed experiment as a number 1, but he's still a nice option as a deep threat and dangerous in space. There are packages where we can get good play from him. Plus, he's got to take a roster spot somewhere so we can have him on specials (just like Graham taking a CB spot).

    We also have Sanzenbacher, and I think he did enough to earn another spot given how many other openings we've got.

    Knox is a maybe, Bennett is a yes. Assuming they both come back, we've got 4 guys. Williams and Hurd are the two spots that need to be filled. Most teams have 6-7 WRs on roster; if we pick up two guys we'll have 6 on roster.

    We'll get a couple of UFAs to look at, but I don't see us making more than 2 notable FA/draft pickups. Possibly 3 if we get 2 in the draft.

  • Hester also looked a bit anemic the last few games too, so not sure what is up with him.

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    Pretty sure he was playing through some injuries....

  • I don't hate Briggs MB. He should play his out contract and stop whining. That's all.

    Seriously. You want your big WR? Trade Briggs straight up for Marshall. Jason Taylor retired and what we can't pay him this year Miami can.

    There are a lot of great LB's in this draft. A lot.

  • If Emery convinced the Fish to go Briggs for Marshall straight up, he would get +50 DBB blog points and a free coupon to Outback Steak House with unlimited refills.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Adding by subtraction gp? Highly illogical. Does anyone really think the Bears will trade Briggs when his contract works to the Bears favor?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    So, what do you think the chances are that Briggs - who threatened to sit out last year - will do so this year?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nada. I think his career would be effectively over if he did that. I don't think anyone's gonna beat down his door with the big bucks after a year away from football at his age. He really has no viable options other than playing out his contract next year, year after that might be a different story.


    Looks like Knox likely will not be ready for 2012 season, at least definitely not training camp. Not sure if that means he's done with the Bears or what, but it does look like we'll need a third WR spot filled this off-season.

  • NBiT
    Thought you might appreciate this, if you haven't seen it: Hanukkah card sent out by the Santorum campaign --

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I commend his campaign for having the courage to send that card.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    He followed that up by sending the New Testament dancers to the local Synagogue and a baby jebus manger set to Mayor Bloomberg.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That qualifies as courage these days?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I happen to believe that political correctness is the antithesis of courage. Standing firm on the Word requires much of it these days.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Nah. All it takes is a stupid fundamentalist. They stand firm, they can do naught else.

  • Blogfather could perhaps compose some kind of card for all of us to sign, perhaps using scanned signatures or what have you - and put it on a big card and send it to Johnny Knox.

    Dude's career is probably over, and he gave his all to the team while he was here.

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