Audibles From the Long Snapper: Little To Write About Edition

Audibles From the Long Snapper: Little To Write About Edition

Party Update No. 1

We will have the Chicago location of the NFL Draft first round party selected, I hope, by the end of next week. We will have several prizes but the grand prize will be two terrific seats (beside me) for a Bears game next year. I won't be selecting that game until the schedule is released in early April but it will almost certainly be in either November or December. Once we have the location set, I'll provide all the details needed. It will be a very fun night.

Bears Raise Ticket Prices and That's Fine

I know some fans want to yell and scream whenever the franchise they support raises ticket prices but don't complain when it comes to minimal increases at Soldier Field. (1) Soldier Field is the NFL's smallest stadium and in order to maintain the intimacy that makes it one of America's greatest sport venues it is imperative for ownership to adjust to the market. (2) The interesting quote from Ted Phillips is this one:

"Player spending, if one year you are a little higher, typically you will be a little lower (the next)," Phillips said. "Last year, the plan was not to be in the bottom quartile of spending. A lot of that, frankly, is we were setting aside some money for Matt Forte, which didn't transpire."

If money was set aside for it to happen why didn't it happen? And does this quote not lead one to conclude perhaps the organization was upset Jerry could not reach a deal with Matt's people? I would imagine if ownership curbed spending last offseason in preparation for a large Forte contract and that contract never materialized, they would be pretty upset. This is an ownership group that has all but shed their frugal reputation over a half decade of big contracts and I wonder if Jerry's lack of progress with Forte wasn't their final straw.

Why I Like Plaxico Burress 

I know, I know Plaxico has stated ad nauseum he'd like to play for the Philadelphia Eagles but I feel confident stating the giraffe will play for whatever team cuts him the biggest check. Plax is no longer the outside threat he once was but he can provide two desperately necessary elements for Cutty. (1) Cutty tends to sail passes high over the middle. It is impossible to throw the ball over Plax's head. (2) A dynamic threat in the red zone. Plax was great for Mark Sanchez in 2011. I don't believe Burress should be perceived as the answer for the Bears at wide receiver in 2012. But he could be an answer towards developing a top tier receiver corps.

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  • I guess can Emery convince him to come to Chicago?

  • i'd rather he convinces vincent jackson. but if he can get vincent AND plax, i'll be happy. it will even make me give him the benefit of the doubt heading into the draft.

  • In the event that I did happen to win the tickets, please do not make it the first week of November. I'd jump off a bridge...and the ones around here are really high up.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    If you win those and you can't go, I'd be glad to take them off your hands.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I bet you would.

    I am really looking forward to the draft party now.

  • I wonder if Jerry's lack of progress with Forte wasn't their final straw.

    I doubt Jerry had much to do with the negotiations between Forte's agent and the Bears.

    Come on now, Forte's agent kept dropping the DeAngelo Williams bomb to the press. The guy is a douche and a dreamer. Williams and his agent fucked the Panthers sideways.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, it would be nice if the failure to cut a deal with Forte was Angelo's fault. Something could get done now, that won't break the bank.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's going to be interesting to see if Emery can get a deal done. Forte will get his money one way or the other (unless he gets hurt the first year).

  • all the buzz I heard about Dontari Poe, made me pondering over, it would the best go for Avril or Mario in FA or move forward in the draft for the next "fridge" and move Okoye or Paea to DE? would it worthwhile?

  • In reply to elcaney:

    Okoye has gotten reps at end before for both us and Houston.
    I don't think Paea ever has, and after he played well late last year, I don't see him getting moved.
    I am pretty certain the Bears will go DE lots earlier then DT in the draft.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I´m getting that feeling as well.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Brownie, Green Bay is a pretty shitty town with not much for entertainment value. Since your gonna be right by Lambeau I suggest going to the Packer Hall of Fame. I think it's inside the stadium now. It's got some cool history. I suggest wearing your Bears gear too. Of course your gonna get some shit, but it's all fun and games. Represent! You went to college in MN, so you know the drill. If you get a chance to tour the stadium, that's pretty cool too. Growing up and living my whole life in Wisconsin I hate the Packers as much as anyone but it's one hell of a football stadium.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I was going to say the same thing about wearing the Bears gear. MBP would take a mountain of shit but it would be in good fun. Any time you can go to an historical mecca of sports, you should. They have as much history as the Bears and more success. It would be very cool.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks, guys - yeah, if I have any time at all while I'm there, I'm going to stop by Lambeau and hopefully get a tour. If I happen to be wearing some Bears gear while I do it...well, I'm sure it happens all the time.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That Poe dude looks like a one-man wrecking crew though. I'd have zero problem if we picked him up. Interior pass rush / rapist.

  • In reply to elcaney:

    Paean could not play dend

  • Congrats to the US fitba (soccer) team for beating the Italians. Yeah it was just a friendly but as my country has been cheated by the Italians before, I do enjoy watching them lose. Dempsey is a fantastic player and Klinsmann is a very good manager.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Yeah, that game was pretty awesome.

    I usually don't watch soccer, but I'm glad I caught that game. Anytime you beat a team for the 1st time in 80 years, friendly or not, is a nice story.

    It was a sweet counter attack efficient goal by Dempsey.

    And the US' furious defense of the goal late in the game was thrilling, reminded me of this little clip from "Braveheart"

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I didn't hear that. Nice one. The Italians rarely play well as a team, but as a bunch of individuals.

  • Hines Ward being released

    Any takers?

    Oh, and who has two thumbs and was trying to sell Plax over all other FA WRs last offseason?

    This guy.

  • Pretty old.

  • Nah. He's a 4th or 5th receiver now. His speed is completely gone. Great down field blocker though.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yeah, older.

    I converted Ward to TE in Madden years ago, but maybe it's too late to do that in real life.

  • F>or those who follow Bill Barnwell and his 'agent' pov colums, here's the one abt Super Mario:

    Orange Julius - Super Mario as DE's....droool.....

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    this is the best part :

    "The real dropoff comes at age 32, when the top 50 pass-rushers average 0.53 sacks per game and never again approach an average above that half-sack-per-game figure. You'll note that the market's two other prominent defensive ends are 31-year-old Robert Mathis and 33-year-old John Abraham. Each of those players have likely already played his best football. Your team can lock up Mario Williams on a five-year deal and actually see him play out the entire contract before he can be expected to suffer any sort of serious decline."

  • Davey Jones is dead. Sang some pretty good Neil Diamond songs. Mike Nesmith wrote one that wasn't too bad. His mother invented White Out. I wasn't really a fan of The Monkees.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    If you were, that would make you an old chick or someone with horrible taste in music.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm an old chick, but I have a little old dude in me. I only like a few teenybopper songs from half a century ago. Some people classify the early Beatles as teenybopper. Idk, suck my tits you people.

    PS: Wikipedia entry for Teenybopper: Subcultural Aspects</a. Somebody spent some time on that. I hope it was an old chick and not a middle-aged male.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Uh oh.

  • Saints having trouble signing Brees. Good ole Vick making Brees want more than 17mil/yr.

    They have till Monday to sign or franchise.

    Good news for us as it means that the Saints may not be able to franchise G Carl Nicks or WR Colston.

  • The guys on Sirius have been predicting a Nicks departure. Not sure I like that if it means they take Colston off the market with the tag.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Heard Nicks' interview today - I'm 99% certain he's not sticking with the Saints. It sounds like they are miles apart in negotiations.

  • They'll have to give Colston 9.4M, can't see that happening. What does he cost us? 7?

  • Qb predictions.

    Peyton Manning (along with Wayne) going to Miami. They have a franchise LT in Long, a #1 WR in Marshall, a good back in Bush and a solid D which had them in every game. Getting the chance to beat Brady twice a year is just gravy.

    Matt Flynn going to Browns. The Browns are in the RGIII sweepstakes, but they have too many holes and the Rams want two #1s and a #2 at least. Flynn goes to Browns in a familiar system, and Browns draft Blackmon at #4 to give him a target.

    RGIII going to Skins. They're more than willing to give the Rams their entire draft, and it's going to happen.

    That would mean that Orton might stay with Chiefs to compete for a starting job, or maybe even Seattle, which leaves us with Shuan Hill, Rex, or Leftwich for a vet Qb backup.

  • I'm thinking the Browns will go all in for RGIII. Holmgren might be tired of the Fudgies' sloppy seconds. Everything you read about RGIII makes you think he will be successful. The Rams are one lucky team right now. They are really going to get a haul for that pick. It will be interesting to see who we end up with for backup QB's. We might end up with McCown and Enderle. Who knows? The only way the Sex Cannon comes back to the Bears is if he has no other offers.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The Browns have higher picks, so they would have an edge over Skins, but giving up two #1s and maybe two #2s to move up two spots might be to steep, even for the Browns, esp since they just drafted McCoy.

    They may just provide McCoy with some weapons this year, and if he still looks lost out there, then next year they can go for Barkley.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "We might end up with McCown and Enderle."

    We better not. Backup QB is arguably da Bears number one priority. If Emery fails to assemble an elite receiving corps, it IS da number one priority. We go into next season with McEnder, we deserve the season to end on an interception, again.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I'd have no problem keeping McCown. At #3 he'd be way better than league avg for that roster spot. Enderle is a complete mystery to all of us. He was a statue last preseason but he was very accurate. My biggest issue with him is the staff was unwilling to even try him in games when it was obvious that Hanie was not going to get it done. If we cut him it wouldn't bother me. After all he was only a 5th rounder.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm not that worried about #3. First backup needs to be the best the Bears can get, whatever the cost in cash or trade.

    It's too bad about Enderle. I'd like to believe that the Bears kept him inactive last year because they knew he sucked, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Martz being the stubborn idiot that he was.

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    Depending on price, I'd like to look at Jason Cambell, and I'd like to know more about Garrard's injury from last year...

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    I'd have no issue with Campbell or Garrard. I thought McCown played pretty well and can still move. Enderle looked very accurate last year in preseason but if he couldn't get on the field while Hanie was shitting the bed, UH-OH.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Garrard will be available - I don't think Jason Campbell is interested in being anyone's #2. He would want to be in a competition, nominal or not, for the starting job somewhere. McCown would be a good option too, as much as I am surprised that I am saying it.

  • Am I correct in thinking the Packers have no choice but to let him walk out the door? They'd have to pay him $14M to ride the bench behind Rodgers if they tagged him.

  • They could roll the dice, tag him and try to trade him. It worked for Bellicheat with Cassell. Pretty big risk. Not to mention they would have to juggle their cap to make it work, even if it was only for a few days.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yeah, it would be a huge risk on the Pack part. Ted Thompson isn't exactly a gambling man - doesn't even want to resign his PB center.

    Also, Matt Cassell had a whole season of tape, while Flynn has two spectactular games.

    If anything, Cassell and Kolb (along with Peyton) have cooled the market for Flynn.

  • Excellent point - which makes me wonder why they haven't just tagged there is no way that Flynn doesn't get paid when he hits the open market.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I read on some Packer blog that Harrell(QB) was the guy they liked over Flynn. Sounds like somebody they're trying to keep under the radar. Flynn is gone. If we can weaken them by taking Harrell somehow, why not? He sounds like a keeper.

  • He's under contract now with them for roughly $550k per year, through 2013. He was undrafted and bounced around in the CFL, even getting released by the Roughriders fairly quickly, although he had one helluva college career (which got discounted because he played at Texas Tech).
    The reality is, the Packers can't afford Flynn anymore to sit on the bench, whereas this guy is incredibly affordable and his background is in a spread offense, great of backing up Rodgers.
    Not sure what his free agency status will be in 2013. I would assume he is not at all in play in 2012.

  • It's going to be interesting. If Peyton is healthy, he and RGIII are really going to affect the top of the draft board. I agree that risk is not exactly Ted T.'s middle name. Hope the Fudgies lose Wells and Flynn.

  • Leap Day - Defined:

    An extra day to wait for the draft, for summer camp, for the 2012 season.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Exactly Al. My least favorite month with an added day. Sigh.

  • Midterms. I will see you fools later.

  • good luck, Artoo

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    G'luck man!

  • Hope you do well. See ya after the tests.

  • I hope your midterms are in NFL News and Rumors for the 2012 Offseason...

    Or else you're proper fucked.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I drink coffee Willie.

  • Most of the mock drafts and scenarios folks are suggesting involve a lot of balanced drafting. But what if Emery likes to double up in positions of strength? A couple of intriuging possibilities this off-season that might not be balanced, but are fun to think about.

    1) "All Star Law Firm" - We draft Trent Richardson at #19 and sign Forte to a five year deal, essentially telling the world that the Bears offense lives on running backs. We pick up a second tier FA WR (say Plax) and use both third round picks for another second to get a big bodied WR rookie (say Dwight Jones). Second round pick goes to an O-lineman or TE, basically using all 4 of our top picks on an offensive over-haul. Except, instead of an elite WR group, we have an elite RB group with some fresh support at WR. Cutty lives off the screen and the dump off and scares teams off of blitzing with lethal play action. Much like the frequent two TE sets we saw last year, the Tice offense features a lot of two RB sets as well as Forte and Richardson lining up outside.

    2) "Extreme Pass Rush" - The Bears get Mario for the same $12 million a year we pay Pep. We also draft Mercilus with our #1 pick and let Izzy walk. We now have the most fearsome (and expensive) pass rush in the league with Paea and Melton showing growth on the inside and absolute terror coming from both ends in a three player rotation that lasts all game long. Round 2 and both 3s go to a couple of WRs and an OT; Round 4 sees the value selection of Burfict, who provides a nice blitz package option at OLB while developing better attitude under our vets. The Bears win 10 games in 2012, but put 12 quarterbacks in the hospital (including Matt Stafford twice).

    3) "Total Rebuild at WR" - We pick up V-Jax in FA and also a vet minimum possession guy like Hines Ward. Emery then shocks the world by trading up with the Cowboys for one of our 3rd rounders and taking Michael Floyd ahead of Philly. Emery shocks the world again, trading a 2013 2nd and a 2012 3rd for the Colts 2nd rounder to take Alshon Jeffery. We use our original 2nd, 4th and 5th on quality D guys. Emery then surprises the world again by picking up a 6th round WR with great physical tools (maybe Derek Moye). We go to camp with three draft picks and two FAs at reciever.

    4) "New Blood on D" - The Bears sign two FA WRs (VJax and Colston), leading most to think we are looking for major offense upgrades in the draft as well. Instead, Emery looks to the D, drafting Luke Kuechly (ILB) in 1, Robert Lester (FS) in 2, Cam Johnson (DE) in 3, and Sean Spence (OLB) in 4. In interviews after the draft Emery says he was glad he could address WR in FA because that allowed him to take top quality players in the draft rather than reaching. He talks up the tackle we grab in 3 (say Nate Potter), but every knows that the story of the draft is a fresh crop of rookies to refresh the Bears D.

    Food for thought anyway. The guy is an enigma right now.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Scenerio #2 would be insane, esp since all three M. Williams, Pepp and Merciless played DT and could be out there at the same time with Melton.

    That would be the most athletic ferocious Dline since 85.

  • I think some of these packages would be real fan favorites. The Bears fans love a good pass rush, and honestly the scenario is not unrealistic. If the draft sees a run at WR in the top 20, we could be left with no good value on offense at #19. Even if we've already grabbed Mario, drafting another DE could make sense in giving Lovie the pass rush he loves.

    Most likely there would also be an elite DB in that case, but the top corners this year have a lot of character concerns.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Mario, Pep and Ming ? It almost wouldn't matter what we did on offense. A mere 3M on Plax and we'd be good to go. Damn. As long as we don't make the mistake of drafting a receiver in the first - which Emery sounds like he won't - and it's all gravy. Unless we drafted Adams, he looks like a big fat bust.

    LT - what do we do? Can't sign Levi Brown, can't draft one. Webb is a liability in passing situations. Sounds like Tice is going to run it more, so we could get away with shorter routes etc. That's hardly acceptable though, it's too important a position to let vegetate.

    So again, is Webb really better than Chris Williams. Could Webb ever shut down Jared Allen the way Williams did? If Spencer stays where he is then Lance has to go somewhere, why not LG? Or Edwin for that matter, anything to get Webb onto that bench.

  • Yeah, the bench and Webb is a match made in heaven.

  • Remember this name....Jared Gaither. he could save 50% of problems in the offensive side, or at least a better player than Webb and Williams playing together.

  • I agree - that one makes me a little giddy at the prospect.

  • Exactly. Blog members could have played offense in that superbowl. If Sweetness hadn't fumbled it might have been a shutout and we'd have gone through the playoffs not having given up a single point. I can't believe there are people who still argue for other team's single-season defenses.

    Interesting comment from Emery about taking FA WRs and not reaching in the draft. Glad to hear that. We need to start striking gold with first round picks after a decade of waste.

    And I'm with you on Plax, Jefe. 8 TDs off 45 receptions last year was sick (especially with San-shit throwing the ball). I don't care if he's lost a step - not surprising when you've shot yourself in the leg - he's a redzone threat. We had to close our eyes when Cutty heaved it at Knox in the endzone previosuly. And Plax was on $3M a year with the Jets We could still grab Colston and still be sitting pretty with Bennett in the middle. $10M isn't a lot to get receivers that make you ultra-scary. We were semi-scary last year as an offense with a bunch of crap at wide-out. Throw in two 6'7 TEs and Forte and there is literally no way you can stop that offense when you figure in Cutty on the scramble.

    Plax would mentor the kiddies too, he's a steal at 3 million.

  • These are good arguments for Plax, Irish. I'm starting to get sold on the idea.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    84% of his receptions were first downs and only 6 receivers had more TDs, guys with a lot more receptions.

  • The smaller the sample size, the more exaggerated the effect.

  • "You rookies - remember these words and may they serve you well. If you are at the club wearing sweats, put the goddamn safety on. It may be your own testicles that pay the price if you don't."

    Yeah, I think he'd be a great mentor.

    I like Plax as a FA signing about 10x better than Moss at this point in their careers.

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    In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ^This made me so happy. I haven't really felt the Plax excitement. I'm not seriously opposed to it, but I'm not excited about it either.

    If he's 3 million dollars, I'd rather use that money somewhere else...

    But I'd definitely prefer him to Moss.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    We practically paid for him by cutting Omelette.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Ditto - $3mil would be a little much. He is a high risk, medium ceiling guy at this point in his career.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Rookies, get a revolver, or a double action only. Anybody who puts a cocked gun in his pants, safety or no, needs to have his dick shot off.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    If only it were Antonio Cromartie.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ben Brothelsplooger.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    If he hasn't impregnated somebody by now...

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Just to look at how different our team could be after the off-season... my scenario #1 has our WR group as something like: Rookie (Dwight Jones), Bennett, Plax, Knox, Sanzenbacher, Hester and maybe even Roy Williams again if Knox is unhealthy.

    My scenario #3 has our WR group as V-Jax, Ward, Floyd, Jeffery, Bennett, Moye, Hester (that's 7 recievers). Sanzenbacher and Knox would both be cut in this scenario if Moye won out in camp. And Hester would probably be fifth on the depth chart if not lower.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I can't see Knox being available this year. Also, why would Sanzenbacher be on the team? Worst "hands" receiver in the league.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I'm not quite ready to close the book on Dane yet, Waffle.

    In truth, I'm surprised how willing the blog seems to be to dump him given all the love around here for Aromashedu. Certainly Sanzenbacher is at least as good.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    That's damning with faint praise. If your Sanz's size and speed, you should drop about 2 passes a year. By the end of the season he was dropping a couple every game. I think you confused Irish's 10 million posts about Aroma as a lot of love on the board. There was, but it was all from one poster.

    Cutler loved Sanz early in the season and by the time Cutler got hurt the love affair was over. I saw Cutler glare at him more than all other WR's combined. I'm sure some of that was because Sanz was a rookie but mostly it was due to the drops.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    There is no comparison to be made between Sanzenbacher and Shabba. One had great hands and size, the other is small with bad hands.

  • Neither one of them can run a fucking route to save their lives yet evidenced by some of the comments about Shabba during his latest stint with Minny. Damn shame, 'cause he's got the physical skill.

  • Not sure about the great hands Irish. Also, you flip flop on size like a crazy monkey. Aroma is 6'2" and 201. Michael Floyd is almost an inch taller and 20 lbs heavier and you talk about him like he's midget. Aroma had a whopping 26 receptions last year. He really isn't all that.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I still miss you, Aromashodu.

    To think, in the end, we replaced you with Roy Williams.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Aroma just could never learn the playbook; Roy knows the plays but could give a shit.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Put me down for scenario number 1. Good stuff, NewBear.

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    I've begun thinking that I don't mind if Meachum is the biggest name WR we sign this year.
    His downside is palpable, because he never broke out of the pack in NO and became a spectacular option, which is why he should come cheaper than most of the other guys. ….

    Bowe will be franchised
    VJax has only surpassed 60 catches once (68 in ‘09)
    Colston will be highly paid as a #1 and has an injury history, plus his separation skills have declined, and he’s only ever been a dome WR.
    Stevie Johnson will probably stay, unless somebody pays a bundle for him. He also may be a headcase
    Reggie Wayne is old enough to be in obvious decline.
    Welker is staying
    Mike Wallace will cost a first round pick
    Marshall will cost a 2nd and a 3rd

    After all the talk of this being a crazy deep WR FA class, these guys all have their own thick and heavy black marks. Give me Meachem, who shouldn’t cost as much, and has the tools (that he admittedly has underutilized) to be our #1. Plus a guy like Eddie Royal for about $600,000. Or even Reggie Wayne if he is cheap. And then Draft Michael Floyd, if it looks like he won’t be there at 19, trade the fuck up. Make it happen.

    We roll out with WR corps of Meachem, Floyd, Bennet, Royal and Hester. Nice combination of decent size starters, great hands guys in Floyd and Bennett, and a couple Speed Guys in Royal and Hester that are also excellent return men. Problem solved.

    If we did sign Wayne, give him a decent paying short deal for 2 years. Let him start and split time with Floyd so that the WR has an excellent vet to learn from.

    I just keep having panick attacks about signing the next...
    Alvin Harper, Laveranues Coles, Houshmanzadah, Boldin, Yancey Thigpen, Bert Emanuel, Mushin Muhammed, Antwaan Randle El, Antonio Bryant, Jerry Porter, David Boston, Javon Walker, Sidney Rice, Andre Rison… or any other terrible Free Agent signing for big money.

    It’s a funny thing, for the most part, I love the idea of getting established Vets. It works pretty great in the NBA, where there are only 5 guys on a court at a time.

    But in the NFL, and especially for WR’s, so much depends on the system, the QB, the Offensive Coordinator, the other WR’s, the Offensive line, the weather, and the fucking general happiness of the most diva prone position in the NFL.

    I won’t be pissed if the Bears give big money to VJax or Colston, or even Stevie. I’ll run out and get the new guys jersey. But I’ll be scared. Top dollar scared.

    On the other hand, I do feel like Meachem will justify his likely contract, and I think he’ll have more potential than the others to outplay his contract and become a value. And since we are “all in” in the next 2 years, signing Meachem over Vjax should enable us to address some other concerns with Free Agency.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    MB..did he say Boldin was a terrible FA signing ?

    Some good points.

  • Terrible? WTF.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm with you on the rest, but Boldin? Terrible?

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    In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Fine, not terrible there. I did that list mostly off the top of my head, and maybe I should have thought harder about Boldin. But I do think they were expecting more than 60 catches for 850 when they signed him.

    I really wanted the Bears to get him, and I would have expected more.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Have to say that I totally agree. WR is a high bust potential area. I'd like to see us use the $$$ to sign a top level DE (super Mario) then get a value WR in FA and draft another in the 1st.

    Keep Williams, Bennett, Hester and Knox. Add FA and 1st round guy. Huge improvement. Keep in mind we almost went to the Superbowl in 2010 with much less than that.

    To compete with the cover-2 in the NFC north a premium has to be put on DE. Peppers is great and our DT's are solid. An elite edgd rusher would put our D in the top 5.

    Killer D + Hester + improved offense = super bowl contender. Fuck over paying at WR. It's an over reaction. This O put up great #'s before cutty went down. We aren't that far away.

  • Does anyone have any opinion on what the dollars for Meachem would be? He went under the radar because Brees spreads it around so much, he can hardly be looking for #1 cash. We could probably get Meachem and Plax for the price of V-Jax, right? We get two good receivers for our bucks, one fast and one tall. Mix in Bennett, Forte, big bookend TEs, Cutty's legs and I see a lot of first downs in our future.

    I guess in that scenario we draft Mercilus if he's there and forego the spend on Mario. It would be so sweet to see a line with Peppers and Williams though. The Superbowl does tend to go witht the defensively stronger though.

    How about this? We sign Forte and Mario, but only fork out for Plax. We did plenty of damage with crappy receivers last year when the line was good. 8+15+3 = 26 Million

    Tice uses the same players, with his smarter schemes and play-calling, the sky's the limit.

    And that's without drafting anybody ....

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    I looked around a bit, a didn't find any good estimates. If Colston is expecting 7 or 8, maybe Meach can be had for 5-6?

    Here is a link to a Redskins blog, where the writer spent some time analyzing Meachem with Videos.

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    Well, not video actually, just pictures and descriptions...

  • This time of year is so rosy - optimism everywhere! Enjoy it while it's here, gang! :-)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Exactly. That's why I don't get too excited until after FA and the draft. It's all woulda, coulda, shoulda. Fun to talk about but not realistic. Not to mention I don't follow the combine or watch college ball. I truly have no idea about these guys other than what I read on the major sports sites. Excluding ESPN. The Chicago site is good but the national site is a bunch of crap.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I can't stand the speculation. I'm just waiting

  • Mikey is available for a 1st round pick.

  • Wallace?

    He has Knox speed.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's the one. I doubt Emery would give up that pick but I think he has to seriously consider it. He may have the most upside of all the stud wideout FA.

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    Wallace doesn't get jammed on the slant-in either.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nope, and if they try, Cutler could audible out and hit him for a big play most likely resulting in a TD. It just sucks you'd have to pay the man a nice chunk of change AND loss a 1st rounder. I think it could be worth it though. How about you?

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    audible, what's that? I thought those were just a myth, like bigfoot...

  • In reply to JerseyBear:

    If it's Wallace or a WR in the first round, I'm taking the 26 yr old stud over an unknown quantity any day of the week..

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And Knox' size. Would we give up a first for Johnny Knox? If a first round draft choice goes anywhere near a receiver he'd better resemble Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall. We have Earl. We have brokeback. We have Hester.

    No draft busting actions for a six foot receiver please.

  • Not all six foot receivers are pure speed guys, like Knox is.
    Take Anquan Boldin - the guy is 6'1" but has the build and attitude of a Mack truck. Try fighting him for a jump ball and he'll kick your ass.
    How about Reggie Wayne? 6'0". One of the best receivers in the NFL over the last decade. He put up nearly 1000 yards receiving last year WITH CURTIS FREAKING PAINTER throwing him the ball.

    Was he worth a first round pick? No question.

    Height is not everything.

  • No more Omiyale

    Bears announce release of DT Anthony Adams and T/G Frank Omiyale. Will be a lot of teams making a lot of cuts next two weeks

  • Oh no. Our season if fucked beyond belief without OMG. What will we do?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "You won't have Frank the Tank to kick around anymore..."

    Walks away with V sign thrown up.

  • Better late then never....

  • Quailman ‏ @FQD1911
    @ErikGrogan @dabearsblog the blog from yesterday wants me to write for them

  • FQ will have a new job! I thought that was pretty cool.

  • Wow - that's pretty cool; the guy loves his Bulls.

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  • DeSean Jackson has been franchised tagged

  • Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora

    Raiders have informed S Tyvon Branch he will be franchised. #insideslant

  • Damn, Artoo, I was hearing those reports on the highway back from Richmond, and I thought - obviously Artoo will post that before I get back to my office.

    Nice work. I'm much more disappointed with the tag on Branch - he would have been nice, although I doubt we would have paid him what he would have gotten on the open market. I think the tag on safety's is worth in the neighborhood of $6.2 million this year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    There I go with approstrophes again. My wife would kill me.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Does the wife proofread you're posts?

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  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The Raiders will have to clear up $28 million in cap space if they franchise Branch. They are in deep doo-doo.

  • If, in over 75% of Mock Drafts, analysts have your team picking a certain guy - and that guy isn't in the top 10 picks overall - you almost NEVER get that guy.

    Almost everyone has us picking Floyd at 19. Therefore, some Monkey wrench will go in by pick 15 at least, and the shit will fly.

    I am for paying next year's #1 pick for Wallace, getting another WR in the 1st, if not Floyd then somebody, then hitting the CB in 2, and OL in 3 and 4. In rounds 1-4, we should at least be 3-1 in favor of the offensive side this draft PLUS the big FA help should be O. If there is anything left after paying Forte and doing that, then see what's out there as far as secondary goes.

    After that, I think the UFAs and URFAs work out better for the Bears on the D line, like we found Okeye last year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    How are you paying for Wallace and getting another WR in the first?

    You have to give up a first and sign him to a big contract. Jw

  • He said "next years first".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shit.. I cannot believe I missed that.

    If the would take a first from next year sure. I am sure they would take a first from this draft though..

    If not, I am cool with this scenario.

  • I missed it the first time too.

    I guess in the end, does it really matter for us to give up this years versus next years pick? Obviously, to us, next year would be preferable if we believe our record will be better and therefore the value of the pick is lower. However, it's only the 19th pick, so all other things being equal, the law of averages would say that next years pick should be MORE valuable to them, even if only by 3 spots.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wouldn't Wallace cost us this year's pick? How does our pass rush improve in that scenario? We need a tall receiver that can produce on day one to help us out - that means vet.

  • This draft is also deep at DE, so a second rounder may still get you a pretty damn good prospect.
    That being said, I've already weighed in on the need for a top notch DE early in this draft if one is available.

    Guess we'll find out in two weeks.

  • Frank Omiyale released!

    Man, the Bears really making all the obvious moves finally. I'm telling you, we're clearing cap for some big maneuvers.

    Martz. Gone.
    Hanie. Gone.
    Omiyale. Gone.
    AA. Gone.

    Now it's just a matter of getting the right guys. Tice and Haley are excellent starts.

  • Tice and Haley?

    Who is Haley again?

  • Correction. NOT Haley, Bates...huge difference lol

  • Out of all the teams that have a legit shot at Wallace.

    We could be favored out of all of them. The Ravens, Bengals, Patriots, and Bucs could be going after him. If I was the Steelers , I trade him to the Bucs or us.

    Out of their division and conference. So, we could have a good shot and considering Wallace might want to go here because of Cutler over Freeman.

  • The Steelers don't really have a choice as to where Wallace can end up, unless there's a bidding war for him between teams to get him in a trade, but I don't see that happening.

    Other teams with later 1st round picks can make a serious move for Wallace, esp Bengals who also have a shit load of cap space.

  • They don't have a choice if only one team puts a offer out there for him but I am sure a lot of teams will be clamoring for him.

    Hell, I forgot the Niners would try to get him.

  • Yes, I think I posted our WR competition a few threads ago. Let me dig it up...

    "Personally, I feel the Bengals, 49ers, Jags, Bucs and Browns (in that order) will be our main competition for a #1 WR in FA.

    Still, it only takes ONE team to make some ridiculous offer to Vjax or Meachem to screw everything up.

    You can look down this cap list to match which teams need a WR with the mula they have to spend."

    The Ravens, like you say, could also be in the mix for Wallace, but I think they have to resign Flacco and are hovering close to the cap if I remember correctly.

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    Could you imagine if Richardson fell to the Bengals at #17 and they gave up #21 for Mike Wallace...

    ... With Dalton and AJ Green...


  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    I heard a Steeler fan today talking a ton of trash about the Browns and stated how they will always be one of the two teams on the bottom of the AFC North.

    Well, that presumes quite a bit because I don't see the Ravens tanking any time soon, and the Bengals should significantly improve the next several years.

    So, I guess that means the Steelers are going to suck too?

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    That would be a nightmare for that division.

    The scarier part is that it's a real posibility.

    Many mocks have the Bengals drafting Richardson at #17, while at #21 a line guy, but if Wallace can be had, adios Steelers.

    49ers, Ravens, Browns also have some later 1st round picks who may be interested.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Richardson isn't that good.. is he?

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    Haha, I never said that. In all that talk, I never said that I didn't think he could be good. If I'm the Bengals, I do whatever I can to get him, because they know that Ced Ben suuucks.

    He looks great. I mean, he's a rookie, no guarantees...

  • Some Bangers who might be available in FA (Barber's still in my mutt house).

    Peyton Hillis Definitely gonna be an FA - but had some erratic off field issues last year. He held out - then didn't play because of his Free Agent - then he got married midseason - now rumors of him saying he would retired emerge - oh, and he fired his Agent.

    However, the year before, 1,111 yds and 11 TDs. The ultimate short yd back.

    Mike Tolbert Also an excellent short yardage back. Still, he might want to join a team where he becomes the full time starter like Michael Turner a few years back.

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    I think Tolbert will be priced out of our range... Unless we go conservative with our WR and or DE singings.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    Do you think Tolbert is going to get a full-time starting gig?
    I suppose it's possible but I think there's a bias against anointing a short-yardage back as your starter. Even in NY, Bradshaw is the guy, not (the allegedly better) short-yardage bruiser.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think Tolbert THINKS he's a 3 down, cow-bell type back, and is looking at another former Charger Turner as his model.

    That's the main reason he's leaving SD, as Matthews solidified his #1 spot late in the year.

    Nevertheless, the Market may give him a rude awakening.

    Hillis might be more available (for the wrong reasons), but with our vet team, I don't see him making any waves.

    If not, we can always draft a banger in the later rounds, dust off Unga, or stick with Barber.

    Further complicating matters is the explosiveness of Armando Allen as a scat back/return/sp teams guy.

  • We also now have a fullback, as opposed to years prior - no offense, Jason McKie.

  • Michael Bush sir. Me want. Although Tyler Clutts is 260 ....

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    I'm not sure he will, but I think he'll go somewhere that intends to use him a lot. If somebody offers him the same as we do, and he can play more there, he's at a point in his career were that makes sense.

    And since Forte is always 49% of our offense, and were giving him at least 8 mil this year, I think they'll skimp on back RB contracts a bit.

    I think backup RB is a need, but not at the top of the list.

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    In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    And by top, I mean top 3 needs. Obviously nobody is saying it's at the very top of the list.

  • In reply to Jesse Lynn:

    I'd agree - I actually really liked that Armando Allen kid and of course, Kahlil (if we don't lose him to a better offer).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I've read where people don't expect the Barbarian to stick around. I'd be OK with keeping him but if the game is on the line someone better break out the flash cards and let him know what he has to do. I liked Bell at the end of last year except for the fumbling. Allen looked like a nice change of pace.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Someone needs to enroll Bell in the Tiki Barber School for Fumbilitis.

    High and Tight Bell, high and tight!

    Also, there's the rub Canada. 3rd and shorts are usually when game's are on the line; Forte is clutch, but sucks at those, and I lost all faith in Barber, so who does that leave us with in those situations? Fumblitis Bell or 180lb Allen?

    I think we need to bring in a fresh bruiser so that we don't have to rely on Bennett or Cutty scrambling for 1sts all the time.

  • Allen showed a tremendous knack for splitting between his blockers and getting more yards than looked available.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yup, Allen played like Wolf should have.

    I can easily envision us carrying 4 RBs this year.

    Unga (or Some FA/Draftee)
    Allen (SP teamer/scat back)

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I really think you all should realize that Barber was a good backup.

    He was a great compliment and great in the goal line package.

    Everyone should know that Forte, for whatever reason, struggles in goal line. Barber did not.

  • He had 3 good weeks.

  • When Forte and him were healthy, Barber had more rushing touchdowns than him.

  • 5 Touchdowns to Forte's 3

  • You are not seriously saying Barber is the better back.

    The staff put him in for short yardage situations in the red zone. And he was active for a couple additional weeks when Forte was hurt.

    I'm not saying Forte is a great short yardage back, but they specifically put Barber in those situations. That's going to skew that stat.

  • No. I am not saying that.

    I am saying Forte sucks in goal line rushing and that Barber excels in it.

    Thus, we need to keep that compliment going.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yeah, I just don't see Barber in the mix this year - I could be wrong though. Lovie is occasionally loyal to guys way past when it seem to make sense to us.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Bell's working out with Tebow right now. What's that about?

  • I guess I can see why Bell would want that dude as a workout partner - he lives in the gym.

  • I would miss watching Barber run. Seemed like he always had a lot of enthusiasm in his running.
    I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not counting on Knox being back any time soon, if at all. Just got a bad feeling of how that is gonna go.
    And that really leaves us light in the WR dept...cuz Bennett is really the only good WR we got at the moment.

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    Not that I wish injury on anyone, but I think Knox's inj was a blessing in disguise for the Bears (I know, I'm evil)

    Once Lovie gets an idea in his head, like "Rex is our QB" ; "Hester is our #1" "Hanie is our backup", he sticks to it dogmatically until it's too late.

    If it wasn't for Knox's inj, he'd prob be our #2 for the next two years, with mediocre results. If Knox were healthy, Meachem or a #2 option may not even be on the table.

    This way, we can clean house, no more pussyfooting around.

    Draft/sign a #1 & #2 WR to pair with Bennett and Hester.

    I just hope it doesn't take Lovie another questionable player turning into a pretzle to realize the obvioius.

    I wish Knox the best and as such, he should seriously rethink his football career.

  • I do to, just afraid with an injury like that tacklers would be going for high hits and that may not bode well fo him.

  • I think Knox should have seriously rethought his football career before signing for us, but yes, get well soon.

  • I don´t know guys, but Poe, Mercilus, and Kuechly are looking as the sexiest picks at 19 if they still on board. whoever fills in by FA

  • In reply to elcaney:

    That would be a tough choice. Theoretically...

    Mercilus = new Pepp.
    Kuechly = new Lach.
    Poe = new Ngata.

  • I don't know about Mercilus being the new Pepp.

    The others you are spot on.

  • Different, totally different guy - but Peppers is a once-in-a-decade freak of nature at DE.

    I'll take the next JPP, thank you very much.

  • In reply to elcaney:

    Now that's more like the most realistic scenario. Emery has already pointed at not picking WR in the 1st. We need a DE and a mike is what I've been screaming for as long as a 6'5 WR ... but if Poe was there - damn he's big and fast.

  • Nice little article on Mike Wallace and FA WRs...

    "Mike Wallace

    Wallace is a Restricted Free Agent (RFA), so the Steelers have two options: (1) tender the highest qualifying offer – about $2.75 million – giving them the right to match any offer sheet Wallace receives, or (2) apply the Franchise Tag (Tag) to hold Wallace’s rights for an amount north of $9.4 million. Despite mortgaging $26 million of players' contracts to stay afloat amidst their severe Cap issues, the Steelers are still highly leveraged and probably cannot afford to tag Wallace. Thus, the likely course is an RFA tender while the team holds it collective breath.

    A quiet win for players in the recent Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) negotiations was a decrease in the maximum RFA tender available. The “super tender” of first and third round picks – the highest tender in the previous CBA – was eliminated, making it less prohibitive for other teams to poach RFAs.

    Teams in need of a receiver drafting at the back end of the first round – Chicago (19), Cleveland (22), Baltimore (28) or San Francisco (30), among others – could possibly make a play for Wallace. Many have asked about the Patriots making a run at Wallace, having picks 27 and 31. I don't see it due to (1) greater needs on defense; (2) an organizational philosophy to not reward other teams’ free agents at that level; and (3) the standard operating procedure of Bill Belichick is to use low first-round picks to secure additional second-round picks or future selections.

    Prediction: Wallace receives a first-round RFA tender and the Steelers hold their breath that Cap-rich teams such as the Bengals, Browns, Redskins or Jaguars do not present front-loaded offer sheets."

  • 1st part of that WR FA article...

    "Vincent Jackson

    The contentious relationship between Chargers general manager A.J. Smith and Jackson may finally end. In 2010 as a Restricted Free Agent – due to the uncapped rules in place – Jackson held out most of the season. Smith, who relishes a good battle with a player, responded by placing Jackson on the roster exempt list, suspended him three games and reduced the $3.7 million tender to the minimum – $583,000, prorated to $171,000 for the balance of the season.

    In 2011, Jackson unhappily received the Tag once the lockout ended (if one can be unhappy earning $11.4 million). To tag him again in 2012, Jackson would receive $13.8 million – 120% of last year's salary – and considerably more than the $9.4 million Tag number for receivers.

    Prediction: the Chargers are prepared to move on from Jackson, who is said to be seeking a 5-year $50 million deal (aren’t we all?)."

  • "Now comes a report from that Hillis even contemplated retirement last season and joining the Central Intelligence Agency. Yes, you read that correctly."

    More ludicrous, Hillis as CIA agent, or Tiger Woods as a Navy Seal?

  • Here's a concise summary of Hillis.

    If Hillis can be signed cheaply, he'd be a steal.

    Then, maybe we can package Bell (he's an RFA and might get picked anyways) for a 2nd/3rd rounder since he basically runs like Forte.

  • I think your mistake is "if Hillis can be signed cheaply".

    The guy is a fucking headcase and he fired his agent because he isn't getting paid enough...let me reiterate: the guy who only played in 10 games last year, started only 9, and rushed for a whopping 587 yards for a 3.6 YPC, fired his agent for not getting him a massive contract extension.
    He turned down something on the order of a 3 yr, $3mil guaranteed, $15mil contract last year in spite of the fact that he had played like ass up until that point.
    The Browns are right to not franchise him; I will be curious which AFC West team has a brain fart and signs him...

    And there's no way on this green earth that his ego would let him sit behind anyone else.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It might not matter what Hillis wants MBP.

    Owens, Moss and Ward all wanted to keep playing, but the NFL bitch slapped them into reality.

    I believe Hillis will likewise be in for a rude awakening once FA begins, esp with Mike Tolbert and Michael Bush out there.

    I predict Hillis will be forced to sign a "prove it" low risk deal.

    I just can't think of any team willing to wager a big contract on him.

  • I think he's the type of guy willing to say "fuck it" rather than have his ego bruised. I agree with you that no sensible team would sign that douche for big money, but some GM is going to get a boner for him and regret it later.

  • CIA is already full of spoons so that'd be no stretch. Woods as a seal would be hilarious. You'll hear the belly laugh from Thailand when he gets killed five minutes later.

  • I do not think we are going after any other tightends.

    We will get Kellen Davis back because Peter King was telling Larry Mayer about how Mike Tice was bragging about the tightends to Peter King. Peter King then brought up how he thinks"we all know" that Martz doesn't use the tightend and limited the group.

    Long story short. I think Kellen Davis might good and he will get his shot this year.

  • I was wondering about that.

    Lovie talked up Davis, but he's machevellian.

    Can Davis stretch the field? Can he put up 50 CA, 10 TDs in Tice's system? Can he help chip Matthews, Mullet, etc?

    I think it's worth finding out.

    Besides, this year's draft/FA class is woefully thin at TE, so we really don't have a choice.

  • I remember Davis rumbling, bumbling, stumbling through an entire defensive backfield against the Raiders(?) last year. He is not Jimmy Graham, but he fits our style better. If I weren't ready to play some MW3, I'd go look up the phys stats on him vs. some of the newer guys in NE, NO, etc.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'll be on tomorrow night.

  • Awesome - I'll see ya!

  • If you look at Davis' highlight reel and didn't know who it was, people would say "who's this guy? 6'7? Sign him!" Some sick catches.

    Martz didn't use him enough so he's under the radar.

  • Barber needs to stay. Erik is 100% right rabbit. We need a short yardage back and barber is a fucking monster. Yeah he fucked up in one game, but hey, he's a football player not a QA manager.

    Also, I think we all forget 09 when we couldn't do ANYTHING on 3rd downs, inside the 20, or on GL. Don't know the stats and am not willing to spend the time looking them up on dodgy african DSL, but they were like 500X better last year. Keep barber and bell... spend the picks/money elsewhere this year. Next year we can draft a young talent.

    I haven't had time to read up a lot, but halleluja OMG is gone! May you go work at fedex again.

    I miss my MW3 battles already.... sniff... man that shit is like crack.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well, he's no Chester Taylor...but I'm still not sure he'll be sticking around. Don't we have Clutts for goal-line situations?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He is from Dallas, was a quiet guy, and Lovie loves his players from Texas.

    Hell, I wish I didn't say that ...because now I know Mr.Roy"in my breadbasket" Williams will be back.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Barber fumbled twice alst year, and the denvergame wasn't a fumble - it was a great strip. Barber is solid material. We need him.

  • oh look at you rabbit... tisk tisk. I'll have a haji for you for that.

    Clutts just didn't seem to be that guy for whatever reason. I think on goal line, you need to be that complete running back that doesn't just ramming speed ahead in a straight line, but that can also put on a juke or two and bump to the outside if the middle closes down.

    I like barber and will be sad if we cut him. I think that would be a mistake off one brain fart in one game (okay, two brain farts in two games).

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Robert Hughes is heavier I think. 230 plus?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nobody vaults into the endzone anymore, WP style? Last time a Chicago Bear did that, it was this guy. Figures.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Anyone see the NFL's greatest leaps ? Walter came in sixth. Ahead of him was John Elway falling over somebody.

  • spilled milk irish. Barber's the shit in short yardage. Martz and the RB coach are the ones who need to shoulder the blame for expecting a blunt instrument to know his shit.

    You need to grab the guy before the play and shake his helmet while saying, "WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT RUN OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!"

  • for some reason I can't reply to anyone. Anyway, buttsteak, meant to tell you... some of your stuff last thread was killing me maings. Good sheite.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks. I thought I broke the blog (again) when I failed close that link above, but no. Da Blog instead created a strange new reply button, behind the reply button on the comment with the unclosed link. The new button appears to open the site I meant to link, but I'm afraid to click it to find out for sure.

  • Omiyale released --> wasn't there a report couple weeks ago that the Bears might be interested in UFA Ben Grubbs of the Ravens? Pro Bowler in 2011.

    That could then mean Williams moves back to tackle to take Omiyale's spot. With Bear Jew at RT, him and Webb would fight for the LT starting job, and the loser moves to swing tackle.

    Unless we pick up a LT in the draft... :-)

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    I'm okay with CW at LT over Webb, or anybody on the roster for that matter. I don't think we can draft one though, and we can't afford one if we sign fancy pants Forte.

  • here's the issue...

    Webb sucks. And williams isn't good at tackle. BJ's knee might not hold up past a few games. I hope I'm wrong, but we're still very thin on oline gents.

    Couple losses next year and we're back to square one. We need some more good bodies. If emery picks up a nicks or the like I will be impressed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nicks won't be back with the Saints IMHO - the dragging out of negotiations with Brees are making that a virtual certainty.

    Wells will also be available...and there are going to be myriad FA options available once the real salary cap dumping starts in about two weeks as teams finish resigning their own guys or pursue high priced free agents.

    I'm not worried...yet.

  • Ray Rice is about to be tagged. I have some rumors if you guys want to hear them, about Forte.

    According to @BearsDaftguy, He as has turned down a, Forte expected to accept terms of deal by Monday - 5yrs/$50 with $18M Guaranteed. #bears. Bears considered tendering him, but elected not to, because now he wants more.

  • Forte is pushing for more guaranteed money, and #bears may be willing to go as high as $20M.

    #bears not finished cutting players for Cap Room... more coming soon.

  • In the name of the lord and the guardian angels - 10 mill a year with a bag full of 18 for free? Bye Matt. We're going to build a roster when you're gone. Three fucking touchdowns. Three.

  • Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    49ers plan to place their franchise tag on safety Dashon Goldson today.

  • do no man... starting to feel the 'fuck that guy' vibe on forte. I get he's been a stud, but starting to feel he's pushing his luck. Like Irish says, starting RBs are a dime a dozen in the nfl these days... just ask mendenhall, grant, turner, any rb in NO, etc...

    If he's going to be more trouble... franchise his ass and get us a new RB in FA/Draft next year.


    Well, I am going to do this and anyone who wants to join me should.

  • Nice find, Artoo - NFP is a great site.

    I'll be interested, depending on what kind of scratch they want.

  • fuck man, that's WAY too much money for forte. Not a fan. The more this drags, the more I want to tag him and go another direction next year. Again, I know he's a stud, but he's fucking our best possible draft/FA rebuilding in our new GM's 1st year. Yeah, I know he has to get his, but not feeling it at fucking $50M/$20 Guaranteed AT ALL. Fuck that.

    Yes, I know all the arguments about a Pro Bowl back, still not into giving Rbs that much money. It takes one shot to the knee and you've just pissed $20M down the drain. for the record, I don't worry about his effort or resolve dropping off CJ-style.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey now.. you can't switch sides because of money!!!

    Jp. I know what you mean MB.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not worried about the Bears pissing away straight cash homie if it doesn't impact their salary cap space and ability to sign other players.
    If they structure the deal correctly, as opposed to what Carolina and Tennessee did, then pay the man a nice 3 yr contract and let's sally forth to a Super Bowl.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck that indeed. Freeing Forte gives us so many sick options, with the one downer being uou have no one true weapon at RB. We could have a committee with various talents though It's an interesting dilemma. Do you curtail the greatness of your team just to have a top 5 back? Again, this is where the lingering stench of Angelo comes back to haunt us e.g. Starks and Leshoure and god knows what else he pooched up.

    Do we need Forte to run 4.9 yards or can other people manage that ?

    There were about 10 runners with a higher yards per rush than Forte.

    He scored three rushing TDs. Three. Lesean McCoy had 17.

    People need to drop the 38% of our offense thing because it means we sucked everywhere else and had to over-rely on our back.

  • Falcons are notifying CB Brent Grimes he will be franchised. More ahead on #insideslant

    No Brent Grimes for the Bears Jeff.

  • agree on the FA olinmen options rabbit... but it looks like we're going to dump half our cap space into the forte bucket. Does all the Gteed money hit the cap this year or is it piecemeal year-b-year... erik?

    I’d love to get nicks, but we also still need a real LT too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The contract can be structured to dramatically reduce the cap hit and still give him lots of money up-front. That's what the Lions will do with CJ - my understanding is that the way the tag works now, they'd take it in the pooper given the size of his existing annual pricetag.

    Avril has threatened to hold out if he is tagged, in regards to Artoo's note below.

    Remember when we talked about the Lions and how all those high picks in the most expensive draft classes of all time were going to bite them in the ass? Well, it's starting.

    BTW, I gotcha hajji missile right here, partner. When do you get back from Africa?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You are correct Mikey.

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
    Lions DE Cliff Avril is not coming to #bears... He is expected to get tagged on Monday.

    This guy I have problems believing he is real and telling the truth but Your boy Roy said to trust him and that he is real.

  • damn, avril was a cheaper Mario and would have taken another piece from the lions. damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "addition by substraction"? it was Zen approach to Avril´s issue. I like it....

  • From Jason Laconfra, Brees, Rice, Forte, M. Lynch, C. Campbell, Welker will be franchised barring new contracts. Prater, Scobee very likely, too. And a bunch..

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    @ErikGrogan With new cuts and restructuring of Urlacher (coming), they will have almost $25M AFTER Forte. There is money and room!

  • erik, what's the official number BEFORE forte?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Before Forte's what ... first deal he was offered? Sorry...can't compute. lol

  • Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Oh, and Lions still working on a longer term deal with DL Cliff Avril but prepared to franchise him if need be. Deadline is Monday afternoon

  • Jason LaConfora, Of WRs - V. Jackson, S. Johnson, Bowe, for example - are in limbo and not sure if they will get tagged or not

  • what is our official cap number before any deals? What is our official cap number, period.

    Aren't you a fucking math major?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You wrote the worst sentence a grown educated man could ever dream of writing ... Craig.

    Be right back with the answer.

  • Bears are believed to have a little more than $28 million in space with free agency 11 days away.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The dude on WCG had it at $50M with 39 signed, I guess that went up with Omelette and 8-ball getting cut. For what that's worth ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He can't work out the cap number, just its rate of change as X approaches zero.

  • carlos rodgers anyone?

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    Report: Titans now likely to tag CB Finnegan... #bears options running low.

  • Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Cowboys LB Anthony Spencer another situation where sides keep talking about longer deal but franchise tag a very real option

  • Thus, the cap number for 2011 was really over $123 M. Likewise, in 2012 teams may borrow up to $2 Million against future years. Hence the real cap for 2012 is likely to be over $125 Million

  • how about rodgers and roid landry dirt cheap?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn.. that was a good one.

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    Report: 49ers will tag FS Goldson on Friday... Why do #bears care? CB Carlos Rogers will probably be available.

  • Deion Sanders' wife sues him for $200 million - nationalfootballpost


  • This tweet says it all:
    Deion Sanders' wife is suing for $200M, claiming she's been portrayed as a gold digger. Deion's defense? "Your Honor, she's suing for $200M"

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • get him. he's old, but was a PB and a bad ass last year. Get. Him.

  • The final cap number has not been set yet - so there is no "official" cap number yet.
    The last thingI heard was that we were -$25mil under the estimated cap.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Since they cut two guys it has gone up..or the Chicago tribune said it did to 28 million.

    We can borrow up to 2 mill off of next years cap..but that could make us the Steelers of next year.

  • Agreed - it's a moving target and will be for awhile. Hell, without the official number, who knows???

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yep. Why does it take so long for it to be official?

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    @ErikGrogan @REMILOVESPORTS #bears Cap right now w/o Forte contract is around $32M. After new contract, around $24M.

    Still changing.

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    @ErikGrogan @REMILOVESPORTS They don't factor in escalators in contracts that are "false"

    ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    @ErikGrogan @REMILOVESPORTS Peanut has Special Teams escalators he'll never receive, but makes his contract look bigger than it is.

  • I meant the uhhhh... the unofficial, offical number... rainman.

  • thanks erik

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Your welcome Mate.

  • it's you're.... craig.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • Ralph Cindrich ‏ @RalphCindric
    #JamesFarrior has been a rock for the #Steelers but the #Turk takes no prisoners-he's gone. A not so Good Morning from Cali

  • hahahaha.... there you go erik. give/take lad.

  • rabbit, for some reason I can't reply to anyone.

    13th sir. I shall be rusty, so your best chance to get some on me without getting it back.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Try signing out and signing back in.

    Or exit out of the page.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's a browser issue with the javascript the gnomes use.

    Just shut all instances of the browser and restart.

  • With a real, athletic FB like Clutts - you can line up with a Mike Alstott (Joliet Catholic kid) package: you can put a TE like Kyle Adams in to lead block, and have a jumbo short yardage situation.

    In any other down and distance, Bell is a better option than Barbarian. WIth the 3rd down back being that speedy kid from the Dome. Bell ran well enough to be the 2nd back. Hell, this year he might outplay Forte.

    Jets made a bid for Braylon Edwards. Rex's Home for the wayward marches on.

  • GP...

    Forte > Barber > Bell > domer

    Clutts is a straight line guy maing... no cutts (pun).

    Don't get the barber dislike... you know, cept for losing us a couple games single handedly and stuff.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One bad game..

  • Two. And that's generous.

    The one where he forgot to go out of bounds, and the choke fumble in the next game after that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That was the same game. The Denver game he went out of bounds when he should not have and in overtime he was about to score and fumbled.

    I don't remember another one..

  • He was well stripped of the ball though, it wasn't like he made a dumb play. The defender did well. In hte heel of the hunt it made no difference to our season and got us higher picks, so I wouldn't crucify him for it.

    Ungabunga is still there as is 230lb Robert hughes ....

  • nope, it has to be africa somehow - the isp blocking JS maybe? Tried all that and nothing works. Every time I click reply I get the checking account thing and nothing happens. This was not happening on my layover in hotlanta. Weird (and really fucking annoying)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That happened to me yesterday when I was on campus.

    Btw, not to be nosy, why in Africa and what is you sell again? Crack?

  • mother effer...What is IT you sell again..?

    Lord have mercy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hi MB. I get that too sometimes. I have to log out and log back in to make it go away. It's no auto-login that gets me.

  • Bob Kravitz ‏ @bkravitz Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
    Hearing from multiple sources that Peyton is in Florida and throwing much much better

  • I sell software... actually, I pimp it. Yes, pimping is much more appropriate.

    In africa to visit my mum and dad mate.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Software pimps, Dawg!

  • Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter
    Titans will not place their franchise tag on cornerback Cortland Finnegan, allowing him to become an unrestricted free agent.

  • Where the hell is that Penn State Biz School lurker apologist?

    How come you happy valley fucks aren't marching in the street to get Spanier thrown off the payroll for his part in the cover-up? That douche is still getting paid on Pennsylvania dimes. If Curley gets re-instated after covering up for Jolly Jerry, there is no more justice left in the whole putrid state.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It looks like the Feds are going to bring that whole place down around their ears. Time to duck and cover, PSU grads.

  • ed zachary GP.

    Muppet software pimps... hee hee

  • rabbit, I've never sallied anything... can you demonstate.

    "dooode... I'll slap you up two-time biiitch."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sally, you're going to meet some claymores when you get back.

  • MB stars in FIREWALL

    A lurid tale about a man who cannot reach the Bears site while on African junket. He ends up kidnapping master grumpy pants Harrison Ford and ends with a chase in Toyota Land Cruisers over the Serengeti while chased by angry Honey Badgers.

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • I am seriously not with the program of moving Cookie back to tackle.

    Cookie is not a tackle.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    But gpl, he played well that one time against Jared Allen.

  • I like it GP... no hot womans? You know who would play my wife in the movie version.... don't you?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Charlize Theron?

  • D. Orlando Ledbetter ‏ @AJCFalcons
    Atlanta Falcons: Super Agent Ben Dogra says Brent Grimes will not sign #Falcons franchise tag. #ContractSquabble

  • erik....

    Denver game, and the KC game I beleive he dropped a sure TD in the open? Could be wrong about the game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck.... He didn't drop a sure TD.. He lined up on the line wrong..

    Still just put this mofo in the backfield in goal line and short situations.

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    REPORT: RB Lynch and WR Welker to receive TAGS. #bears

  • Bears RB Matt Forte, Seahawks RB Marshawn Lynch and Patriots WR Wes Welker (barring a long-term deal with New England) are all expected to be tagged.

  • Brent Grimes is telling the Falcons to go f-ck themselves with the franchise tag.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I don't expect the Bears will remotely consider going after him, at what he's going to get in the market.

  • Found this at, thought it would be, if the player (like CJ for instance), already makes more than the estimated top-5-player average, then the tag is worth 120% of last years contract. You can see why the Lions have no leverage with CJ and why there's no way the Packers are putting the tag on Flynn.

    Here are the estimated 2012 Franchise Tag salary figures by position...

    Quarterback $14.4 million
    Running Back $7.7 million
    Wide Receiver $9.4 million
    Tight End $5.4 million
    Offensive Line $9.4 million
    Defensive End $10.6 million
    Defensive Tackle $7.9 million
    Linebacker $8.8 million
    Cornerback $10.6 million
    Safety $6.2 million

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    SOURCES: Forte contract is 98% complete... small details remain. #bears will have this finished before FA period starts next week.

  • ChicagoBearsDraftGuy ‏ @BearsDraftGuy
    Forte has already decided (per our source) to signa long-term deal with #bears. It is all details now.

  • MB, How's the trip going? Pretty tough? Love to the fam.

  • I bet @BearsDraftGuy is just some fat guy on his couch making shit up in between nutsack scratching sessions.

  • thanks doc, yeah. sucks maing, really sucks. thank you for asking my brother.

    ...btw, I'm regrettably still going to have to kill you a bunch when I get home.

  • I'm your huckleberry.

    You're no daisy.

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