Audibles From the Long Snapper

Audibles From the Long Snapper

First Round Draft Party - Thursday April 26

I will be in Chicago for the first round of the NFL Draft in April. At that party, we shall:

  • We'll give away a pair of Chicago Bears tickets for a game in 2012. By that point I'll have selected which game (it will be the game I also attend next season and you'll be seated with me). The seats will be good. Very good.
  • I'll be courting some sponsors to give away a few other cool prizes for some sillier contests.
  • Most of my updates regarding the party and the contest will come on Twitter. You can follow DaBearsBlog on Twitter by CLICKING HERE.
  • You have to attend the party to qualify for the ticket giveaway.

Backup Quarterback to Be Bears Priority
Lovie Smith made it clear with his statements at the Combine that the Bears will be targeting a backup quarterback in the coming weeks. From the Trib story:

"First off, each year you learn something," Smith said. "We thought we had a better plan at the quarterback position. I knew how valuable Jay was to us and that won’t change, but we do need to get ourselves in a better position at that backup quarterback position.

"So you start from that. There are a lot of options out there. I think this is an attractive place for a quarterback and we’re going to look at people. I’m talking Caleb (Hanie), Josh (McCown) and of course free-agent quarterbacks out there. I just feel like we’ll be able to strengthen that position more than we were this past year."

Here's how I'd rank the available quarterbacks to fill this positions: (1) Kyle Orton (2) Rex Grossman (3) Chad Henne (4) Jason Campbell. All four of those guys would provide the Bears a capable, winning player behind Jay Cutler.

Chargers Considering Franchise Tag for Vincent Jackson?

Until today I hadn't heard many speculate that VJax was returning to San Diego. Jason La Canfora changed all that with one Tweet. CLICK HERE to read his entire blog post. Here is the start of the piece:

When it’s all said and done, and the franchise-tag deadline arrives March 5, I can’t help but think that wide receiver Vincent Jackson isn’t leaving the Chargers.

Chargers head coach Norv Turner told me the team is considering all of its options with regard to Jackson, who is scheduled to become a free agent.

People close to Jackson tell me they’re convinced that he will ultimately be franchised, despite reports that the team won’t apply the tag. It would cost around $14 million for the Chargers to use the tag for a second straight year on the receiver.

This is disappointing, to say the least. Jackson was set to be the most talented wide receiver on the open market and would have been a surefire Bears target.

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  • First to ask where the hell is this party Jeff? Would be fun to meet some of you guys.

  • I am going through process of choosing joint. I have a lot of options but accessibility is number one so many people can attend.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    May I suggest Carl's Lounge in Stone park...hehe.

  • Stone Park, tee hee.

  • http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/sports/football/duersons-son-sues-nfl-over-handling-of-concussions-that-led-to-suicide.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vqGyWTs3c

  • Go figure, I will be in the area (Springfield) anyway due to my dad's retirement party. I will make every effort to attend! And I am going to make sure my brothers come as well.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN6UAzYY8qg&feature=related

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's cold-blooded, maing.

  • it's a shame we got rid of jerry. would've been funny if you went all the way to chicago for a draft party only to have him trade away the pick for a couple of third round picks.

  • Damn, that sucks about Vjack. The Chargers are seriously gonna fork over 14 mil!? Dang. From everything I've read, Bowe will be franchised too. That leaves us with.

    Colston (System guy and injury prone?)
    Steve Johnson (Drops and clownish)
    Mike Wallace (would cost us a 1st, some cash, and not big body)

    The rest, like Manningham, are a #2 WR at best.

    Now that deal for B. Marshall begins to gain more urgency, but why on earth would MIA deal him?

    Would a 2nd rounder, or two 3rds be enough? Would Mr. Scout Emery start off his gig by trading away draft picks from the start?

  • so plan would have to change, go DL-OL and WR (in this order) in FA (Mario, Jared Gaither, and the best WR aviable) is a must right now. and take the best DE or WR aviable in first round , second Burfict, best corner or WR aviable (in this order). three best OT and best WR aviable. all depends on what happens in combine but it´s a tentative plan. nevertheless having Mario it´s better concentrate on the offensive side in draft or having Gaither and the best WR aviable, and focus in the defensive side.in draft.

  • If the Chargers want to throw 14 big ones his way then good luck to him.

    Colston has a reputation of being injury prone, but it's not really fair. Out of 6 seasons he's played 12, 14, 6, 16, 14, and 7 games in each of those. He's the only other big body out there apart from V-Jax.

    Philbin would deal Marshall because he said on taking up his position with the Dolphins that he only wanted "very high character guys". Very high character. Marshall doesn't fit that bill, and if he could get a couple of high picks for him ....

  • "Should have mentioned Nathan Enderle also,’’ Smith said. "Nathan being a rookie and not really being a factor last year, you tend to forget him sometimes..."

    Like when your starting QB goes down and your backup sucks and your season is over but for one final game that you would be better off losing.

  • Pretty tempting Jeff. Glad I am 21. I hope I get to see some of you cold bastards lol

  • All I can say about Vjak & Bowe is FRACK!!!!! as we get closer it sure seems that Colston and Johnson may be coming down the pike for us...the pipe dream for Marshall is that but damn..sure is nice to dream...E-ZEY(aka Emery..not sure if it fits him yet, but I coin it if it works...aka my "Glitchy") go get some in the FA...

  • I am going to post it on here MikeBrownhadaPosse

  • Brandon Jacobs
    2/25/2009: Signed a four-year, $25 million contract. The deal contains $13 million guaranteed,
    2009 stats- 800
    2010 stats- 800
    2011 stats- 500

    Pieree Thomas
    3/3/2011: Signed a four-year, $11.2 million contract. The deal contains $4.2 million guaranteed, including a first-year roster bonus of $2.7 million
    2011 stats- Barely reached 500

    Jamall Charles
    12/11/2010: Signed a six-year, $27.97 million contract. The deal contains $10 million guaranteed, including an $8 million first-year roster bonus
    2011 stats- Blew his knee out before he could do damage.

    Deangleo Williams
    7/29/2011: Signed a five-year, $43 million contract. The deal contains $21 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus

    Marion Barber
    May 20, 2008, he signed a seven-year deal, $45 million with the Cowboys with $16 million guaranteed.
    Never got over a 1000 and even after his paycheck he didn’t come close to it.

    Adrian Peterson
    9/10/2011: Signed a seven-year, $96 million contract. The deal contains $36 million guaranteed, $32 million of which is guaranteed for skill and the other $4 million for injury
    Major injury after this deal but if anyone can comeback it would be him.

    Ahmad Bradshaw
    8/1/2011: Signed a four-year, $18 million contract. The deal contains $9 million guaranteed, including a $5 million signing bonus,
    2011 stats- 600 yards and only 9 td’s.

    Chris Johnson
    9/1/2011: Signed a six-year, $55.26 million contract. The deal contains $30 million guaranteed, including a $20 million signing bonus.
    2011 stats- 1000 yards only 4 td’s

    Joesph Addai
    7/30/2011: Signed a three-year, $14 million contract. The deal contains $5.58 million in bonuses.
    2011 stats-400 yards and 1 td

    Ryan Grant
    four-year, $18 million contract that Grant signed in August 2008
    One good year after that contract. After that he sucked it up and has not been healthy or reached 1000

  • If you want more running backs then let me know. I can keep going back but I didn't know how far back you would want me to go.

  • Left Deangleo stats out.. he only hit 800 this season.

  • You want me to start picking apart the problems with each of those? If a guy only played 1/4 of the season, that doesn't mean he fell off a cliff - it means he got dinged.
    Nor am I arguing that we pay anybody DeAngelo money or CJ money.
    Franchise Forte. Period.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I agree with the "Franchise Forte". I have been saying to do that. No one would trade for him and all I am saying is to listen if someone does want to offer up their picks for him.

    You want guys that fell off a cliff? Like after their huge paycheck did nothing? No yards or TD's because that will be insanely hard.

    I could try and I will do that this weekend. My main point got across I thought. After their paydays, they either were injured or had mediocre seasons. Pick the whomever you want, it is obvious that something weird happens after they get paid with a big contract.

  • I get what you're driving at, but I'm asking to see Pro Bowl RB's that got paid, and then nosedived in production.
    There are some nutjobs like CJ1K that kind of stunk for awhile after getting paid, but even his shitty season is nearly 1500 yards from scrimmage. And that was the initial argument: that once a high performing running back hits their second contract, they drop off dramatically. I don't think that's really true at all when you're talking about top tier backs. Some of the guys you threw out there were a) never full-time starters to begin with, b) got injured somehow, or c) are playing in two or three running back systems where they play a relatively small number of downs to begin with.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    All righty... you got Mike, give me a day or two.

    Full time starters

    Went to the probowl

    Can their drop off be through their second contract or does it have to be immediately after that second contract?

  • Well, it's not going to be fair if they signed a 6-7 yr deal and they fell off in year 3-4 of it, is it? I mean, that puts them at the over-thirty mark.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    All right.. I might just stop then. Though most of them fell off in their 2 year of their new contract or have a serious injury in their second year..

    At least we agree to Franchise him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Pierre Thomas - has never been a full-time starter; plays in the most pass-happy offense in the league in a time share for the last four years (Sproles, Bush, etc)...in fact, had part of his calf muscle taken out in college and went undrafted.
    He compares to Forte in what way?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He got paid a pretty good chunk if you don't consider him a starter.

  • He wanted more money..? I mean, he wasn't as good as Forte but got paid more than him. Do you think they should have paid him that much?

  • Absolutely not - I do not know what the Saints were thinking. The guy has a dead leg and has since college. He's not going to someone grow a new calf.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    "somehow"

  • Hey, I'm not their GM - I thought it was stupid then. He's not nor will he ever be a Pro Bowler and you've probably watched enough Saints games now to know that with first, Reggie Bush, and now Darren Sproles, they don't run much anyway. His numbers have always sucked.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They don't run much but Darren Sproles was the only one that I didn't list and he only had 600 yards rushing but made up for it in receiving yards.

  • And he is not a Pro Bowler at RB, never will be, and is not a feature back. The Saints have, for years, used a multiple back system that values receiving more than running, in or out of the tackles.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Brandon "Big Mouth" Jacobs - entered into a 50/50 time share with Ahmad Bradshaw in 2009, and has been splitting carries with him in their system for the last three years. But he sucks, and it pains me that you compared him to Forte.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Dude, I am not comparing them to Forte.... Jeez. I am pointing out the fact they paid these guys big contracts and they failed to live up to them.

    You want to give these other guys excuses? Fine. Doesn't hide the fact they paid these guys more than they are worth and they didn't live up to their contract.

  • When AP gets his knee taken out sideways, I'm not making excuses, I'm saying he can't play with no ligament. Hard to say his performance dropped off in weeks where he was in rehab due to a fluke hit.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    AP is the only one I can honestly say will either live up to his contract and will continue to play.

    Most running backs won't though. Do you see Jamaal Charles playing back to full speed?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Can you justify any of these big contracts?

  • Forte has AVERAGED 1,500 yards from scrimmage in his four years in the league. What other backs have done that? He was 13 yards short of that mark in 11 games this year. Only Walter and Forte ever had a season with 1,000 rushing and 500 receiving yards. Forte did it in 2010. In 2011, in essentially 11 games, he almost did it again. 997 rushing yards, 490 receiving yards.
    What part of 1,500 yards don't people understand? Was Vincent Jackson's 1,100 yards in 16 games more impressive than Forte's 1,500 yards in 11 games. He had 60 catches last year, which equals 3.75 catches per game. I give up.

  • You will not convince me he is worth C.Johnson or Deangelo Williams money.

    Great player but not worth all that money

  • to be fair, i don't think chris johnson or deangelo williams were worth chris johnson or deangelo williams money.

  • why don't you two just get a room. sheesh.

  • 13m+ a year for AP? You know Forte is going to want some of that action. They'll franchise him and see what happens.

  • http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4675277/smith-endorses-conte-wright-db-tandem?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    From Jeff's tweet feed...

    Oh Jesus christ, crocket and tubbs!?!?!

    Do you see tthe pic chosen for that article? So perfect for those two rodeo clowns.... pringles making the neck tackle in the end zone after the dude's already scored 6, and crocket Patty caking the dude after he came up 5 seconds late from his deep cover spot somewhere in the middle of the stands.

    Fuck me lovie, you're banking your last shot to stay HC on those two half whits? Yeah, good luck with all that nyquil. Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lovie must play Madden 12. On that game, Major turns out to be a allpro safety and Conte becomes a pretty decent safety.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know some people around this blog have a "thing" about white safeties, but here is an interesting snippet from the article;

    "The Bears lined up eight combinations of starters at safety last season. But in the six games Wright and Conte started together, the Bears nabbed eight interceptions, and gave up four touchdowns while limiting opposing quarterbacks to a passer rating of 68.9.

    In 10 games the Bears took the field without Conte and Wright as the starting safeties, the team allowed 18 touchdowns and an opponent passer rating of 85.8."

    As the article goes on the point out, however, durability (particularly Wright's) is a concern.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Which is why I keep advocating for Conte to start and for us to draft OR sign one of the upper tier FA strong safeties as a replacement for Wright.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Conte's centerfielder act will get exposed once teams realize his weaknesses: namely speed and white-man can't jumpism, I think we will all be looking at what we can do by game 4 this season.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Conte was a rookie and playing only his second year ever at safety. Why won't he get better?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Chris Conte ran a 4.55 40, which might not be 4.44, but still is pretty fast, esp since he's 6'2 210.

    Remember, Conte played CB for like 2-3 years before moving to FS. Really, this is only like his 2nd year total playing that position and he has already shown more instinct than Wright.

    Who worries me is Wright, who is fast, but seems to get lost back there or takes horrible angles. Man, never thought I would Manning in the secondary, but that's Wright's fault.

  • http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272978

  • Between Merriweather, Conte, Steltz and Pringles surely we cna make something work - especially if we push the boat out for Mario Williams. We didn't think they'd get Pep, but they did. I certainly think we'll be in the race for him, in which case we could have Trac and Murph back there and still look good.

    Conte and Steltz will get it together. If we fix that line (at LT anyway) and get Marshall or Colston, combined with Tice's new look we'll be scoring so many points that it won't even matter who's in the secondary.

  • Trac and me, I love it! Ya made me smile on a gloomy day when I read that!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If the d-line improves and we actually have a starting SS that doesn't pull his hammy pouring his Frosted Flakes, then I will take a centerfielder with 4.5 speed at FS.
    That's what he's going to be doing.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Any scientists on the board tonight?

    Can any of them tell me if that particular fact lead to those stats alone? Did it have anything to do with the fact that cutty and matty were out and that the D was getting shithoused for longassed drives most of the time caleb was in… yes, it did.

    Conte will be a good back up/package guy, but he was told to line up 30 yards off the ball and not let anything get past him. He’s not bad, he’s just not our franchise answer at FS. I know some of you guys think he is, and yes, he WILL get better… but he’s still not our guy for the next 5-10 years. GP’s right, he will get exposed and taken advantage of… you can’t line up like that every play and beat teams that get it. We need a long-term answer.

    Pringles is not only fragile (that’s Italian), but he is also a fucking HORRIBLE tackler. The dude is not only going to give up more whiff TDs next year, but he’s going to paralyze himself at some point too.

    Let’s try landry out on a pay for play basis, and get someone in the draft… wish we could get Kirkpatrick if konz if off the board by 19. My $.02.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would take Landry in a heart beat, but I don't know if we'll be able to afford him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We don't need anymore injury prone Safeties!

    If we're going Safety in FA, get Tyvon Branch.

    He's only 25 and solid.

    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2012S.php

    However, Lovie has pretty much endorsed the Conte/Wright combo.

    Positive of that combo. Opposing QB rating against duo - 68.9
    Negatives. Both finished season injured.

  • Branch was the other guy I wanted. The concern with Landry is definitely the injury bug but he doesn't have Wright's penchant for running blind into objects with the crown of his helmet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh Jebus! Get us a DB!! A safety or a corner who can form tackle and not get beat deep down the sideline ala the Raiders game.

  • http://thechive.com/2012/02/22/remember-these-rad-sports-posters-46-photos/

    In case you missed it on the last thread. Pretty funny

  • Tebow Nike ad - "Be the Hammer or the Nail":

    http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Tim-Tebow-Nike-Ad.jpg

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    man that kid is a dbag... a nice dbag, but still a dbag.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    WTF is with that tagline? I know what it means, but the first thing anyone will think of is Christ's crucifixion.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    ha! I didn't even put that together maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe it's just me. I saw that ad after looking ad an earlier Nike ad for Tebow-branded shoes that said something like, "They won't help you walk on water." Definitely a Christ reference there.

    BTW, there's also this. "Gear Up or Shut Up." That's a zombie reference (Nut Up or Shut Up -- Zombieland).

    And Tebow's got a Nike ad on his eyeblack.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    "God dammit Bill Fuckin Murray!"

  • Sorry for hijacking your sub-thread, Artoo. But something very similar to your link was posted on DBB a couple months ago:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1106/posters.salon94.exhibit/content.9.html

  • Nice. My brother had that Mad Mac poster.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/photos-laron-landry-big-incredible-hulk-big-225404479.html

  • holy shit. that's silly.

    Let's get him on a contract that only pays for plays. Fucken A dude is all on SWOOOOOLLLLEEE!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Landry's almost as yoked as me! lol

  • Okay, do we want a guy that is definitely going to get busted for Roids? He could play for Urlacher.

  • C'mon MB. Brownie. Waffle. Get some.

  • Shady already signed off. Who wants to take a dirt nap tonight?

  • Doc, on vaca with the wife without the kids for the first time in 4 years. I'll be playing sat night and maybe sunday... then off to the homeland for two weeks and a forced intervention.

    Maybe I'll be weened (see how I did that) by the time I get back... but more likely, I'll just be more fired up to kick some ass.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Have fun, mang. Will this be the weekend the twins are conceived?

  • Hahahahahaha

  • You need to add me as a friend on PSN - I don't ever know when you're on.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I sent you a friend request last weekend. If it didn't get there for some reason, send me one; docnitty34

  • will do - missed it somehow...see you on there tonight if you're around!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'll be there. This is my last night of freedom.

  • Osama Zombies. Killing OBL zombie with a KATANA. So. Much. Win.

    Is this cinema or a MW3 mod? The line is so blurred now I can't tell.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zb9V2lxa52M

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oops. Somebody forgot to double tap.

    BTW, wasn't it you who said you hated Zombie ficks?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I do hate Zombie flicks, I was being sarcastic.

    The truth is, I find that a society that has zombies as it's monster du jour signifies something really wrong with the zeitgeist.

    Zombies have jumped the shark.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What does that say about the Norweigens? They have Nazi zombies:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-KQh87_V2Q

    The Finns went the sci-fi route - Nazi's from the Moon:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeIu1FiTTyI

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    shady LOOOOVES natzi zombies.

    Enjoy shady.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I saw Dead Snow a couple of years ago - loved it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    cree---fucking---py

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ialZcLaI17Y

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Disturbing.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Nazi Zombies is a MW3 mod, right?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MW2.

    Shady loves it, but I litterally went to sleep after about 2 minutes.

    ...and Nazi zombies are scary.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    There's also some maps for it with COD: Black Ops...which I thought were pretty amusing, especially the zombie-killing JFK, Nixon, Westmoreland, and Castro team.

    I skipped over MW2 somehow.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    wow, so bad. so so bad.

  • Has this been posted?

    Miami Dolphin Brandon Marshall on Borderline Personality Disorder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjOtxU1zQAM

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Honestly makes me want him on my team even more. Seems like he's genuinely trying to be healthy, and I think he and Jay would be great spokesmen for the team as professional athletes living with disease. Plus the car is cool.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Yes. He's pretty impressive there. A smart guy.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    snickers and nutrageous... love it. let's get those two together ASAP.

  • Tebow Q&A on Youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jejfpWYlCR0

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Q:Could you, would you, with a goat?

    A:I would not, could not, with a goat!

    Tebow, why can't I quit you? You're so damn cute, that's why.

  • not sure if this was posted already, but here it is again: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0224-haugh-chicago--20120224,0,145831.column

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Brian Urlacher's in perfect health. In time, when he can't play any more football — five, six years — [I] will probably be long gone in retirement and Brian will still be playing." -- Lovie Smith

    That's half right.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good defenses win championships with talented QB's Brad. It's both.

  • and here we ggggggooooooooo:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/24/bears-forte-will-meet-this-weekend/

  • FRACK!!
    FRACK!!
    FRACK!!!!

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Chargers-could-franchise-Jackson-again.html

  • Hey Jeff, whatever happened to the Johnny Knox get well card?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    yeah! 100% NB.

    Jeff, please use this card: http://www.someecards.com/usercards/viewcard/e05ddf60574606562061562fec498be1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...that's cold...fracking cold!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Some animals don't even have spines. Knox cracked one of 4 little joints on one of 33 vertebre. C'mon.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    now come on crunch................ don't talk about LDL like that. hahahahahahaha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn.

    Lol Funny yet like lobo said cold.

    Cold hard truth that is.

  • Walter Cherepinsky ‏ @walterfootball Close
    Alshon Jeffery is 6-3, 216 with 10 1/14 hands. Rumors said he was overweight. Fast 40 wouldn't surprise me either - walterfootball.com/combine2012WR.php

    Aaron Wilson ‏ @RavensInsider Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
    Michael floyd said he measured in at 6-2 220 pounds
    Retweeted by Erik Grogan

  • Keep 'em coming Artoo. You're like the Shefter for DBB.

    Also, if you don't keep the Bears related tweets flowing, I may have to open a twitter account, so please save all of us!

    On a Jeffery note, like I said before. I think his 40 time will move him most dramatically.

    He runs sub 4.5, he's top 10.
    If he runs 4.6ish, he may fall to the 2nd.

    Can't believe he weighs 216. Weren't there reports that he was at 240?

    Floyd is not exactly 6'4, but he has Bowe size and potential. His hands are like a catcher's mit.

  • Jeffrey is being compared to Marshal in terms of playing style. Those reports were false.

  • Mayock slammed him in his receivers analysis. Slow, can't get separation etc.

  • I still love Reggie Wayne, if for no other reason than I love yelling his name in my best Dave Chappel impersonation everytime he makes a big play.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLiHwG0HIVs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13zmo692kjU&feature=related

    You snappin on Reggie? ... it's time to attack black!

  • no stevie love on this board.

    I read somewhere that he was the only dude, the. ONLY. dude. all last year that beat revis' ass down TWICE. The only dude.

    He might be a dbag, but he's a young, fast, badass and can probably be had for a shitload less than a vjax or colston.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Johnson_(American_football)

    Yes, he's only 6'2" 210ish, and you guys know I want a marshall mould guy, but I think if we can get stevie for a reasonable price we'd be totally foolish not to. We also need to pick up a manningham or the like as #2 btw.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like Stevie Johnson as a Bear more than I do: Bowe, Floyd, etc.

    From the game I caught with him, he's not exactly suffering for being at 6'2:. That's plenty tall.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No way we can afford two guys looking for #1 money. He may be a good receiver, but at 6'2 - as per Cutler's recent comments - he's not a jump ball guy. Now Johnson AND Marshall/Colston .... well, that would be the dog's bollocks. You could pay the two of them what we'd pay Mario Williams. So if they draft Ming, we could make it happen. I'd be happy with that if nothing else happened. Or draft Konz and get those two, and just outscore everybody.

    Stevie goes back to the Bills in all probability, so it's a moot point. If we addressed OL and DL in the first two rounds and Stephen Hill was still there, we'd have a 6'5 receiver and then we could still pick up a Laurent Robinson on the cheap.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-steviejohnson

    Bills have ‘productive’ talks with WR Johnson

  • dude is obviously on the juice/hgh. normal people don't look like that, trust me I tried to when I played. Genetics be damned, that's not normal.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/WashingtonPost/Content/Blogs/dc-sports-bog/StandingArt/landrygiant0212b.jpg?uuid=S_0hHF5CEeGaOCcdGz7-jw

    But again, fuck it... we'll pay you for every game you play in mr. landry... get hurt and you're done without a dime. Draw it up and send it over cliffy/emery.

  • Knox did horrible at bench press today

  • Knoz

  • Only benched 225 18times

  • damn, that's not good. that's not hard at all and I'm only 190

  • And the bench press superstar has done just how much for us?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    He's done enough that they let Adams go.

  • Adam Schefter reported on twitter that it is unlikely the Chargers franchise Jackson.just now

  • Pierre Garcon turned down a 5 year deal with the colts

  • Give me a Colts receiver!!!!

  • We had one, and Lovie put him in the doghouse.

  • I can't see that coming back to bite him in the ass. What were the numbers?

  • In case you guys want to keep updated with the combine, the Bears page has some vids of or players benching, etc.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/index.html

    I'm trying to find an NFL Network Link, so if any of you fake accounts have one (First Row Sports seems to be on some loop), may you can post it.

  • Also, ran across this site. Just like their format. Looks sharp.

    http://eplsite.com/nfl.html

  • Do they speak English in What?

  • Forte has been tweeting about how he is tired of the media telling him rumors.

  • Some VJax info from last night. Listened to AJ Smith the GM from the chargers last night NFL XM radio. He hinted that they chargers may look elsewhere in free agency for a wide out. He kept saying that certain positions were very deep this year in FA. My wife is a big charger fan so I usually follow them loosely. They are slated to lose 2 of their starting o linemen to FA if they can't lock them up with deals. Their LB corp is a mess and their DBs suck dick. They are going to be making other moves beside franchising Jackson. I don't see them tying their hands by spending half their cap on one player.

    I know a lot of guys are high on Jackson and I think he would be a gret option too but I watched every charger game last year and he is either on fire or completely disappears. Revis shut him down bad last year and he struggled most of the season with an abdomen injury. He would make our WR instantly better but he gave up on more than a few plays last year.

    I would be happy with Bowe or Stevie. I am still not convinced in taking a WR with our first pick.

  • In reply to Vicp71:

    Smith and Jackson's agent hate each other - I'm not sure how much of that was posturing on Smith's part and how legitimate it is that they'd let him walk.

    If he does walk, that's good for us anyway because it drives down the asking price on everyone else.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Smith may franchise Jackson.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    My gut is that is he's going to walk but it comes down to cash, not the contract. My understanding is that tagging Jackson would lock them into $14m in real money for 2012 for a guy that has been pretty mercurial.
    I'd rather they let him walk, somebody else gives him a $50m 5 yr contract, and we pick up Stevie for less.

  • In reply to Vicp71:

    Good call. He's too expensive anyway. I'd only be happy with Stevie or Bowe if we drafted a 6'5 beast somewhere to keep Cutler happy.

  • Cutler will just need to man up and play whatever he gets. But I can't blame him for asking for someone.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    if anyone could man up with shit WR talent and shit Oline talent it's Cutty.

    Get the man some fucking weapons and watch the pundits blow him.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3AAvRyro6_Y

    Alalalalalalalalala!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That guy cracks me up.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

  • Yo Posse! You're deadrabbit04, right? Let's do this.

  • Briggs reported about how Emery is talking to Bowes agent today.

  • Biggs...not Briggs. Sigh black pumas

  • Boys, i just want you to know that I hit the town last night to see my guys and as I was driving down Ontario in downtown Chicago to jump on the expressway home I just happened to be passing Al's Beef. I laughed and pulled in the drivethru:

    Me: I'd like a Biggsy Bullet Death Train with Hot Peppers and a small Pepsi

    Attendant: A what?

    Me: A Biggsy Bullt Death Train....extra hot peppers and a small pepsi.

    Attendant: sir.....um....i don't understand...

    Me: Sorry, I meant a combo hot peppers, forgot we weren't in camp yet.

    Attendant: pull around 9.20 please

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    hee hee hee.....

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    hehe

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    And some FrenchFries Forte. Huh? Frenchize Forte! ...French Fries, now! Anderle!

  • actions speak louder than words:

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bfdAJ?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=chicago-bears

    I don't give a flying rats ass if E-Train..(what do you think?) who has pulled in to Halas Hall, doesn't speak to the media on everything. As long moves us to a ring, could cares less what he says to the media.

    I imagine our new GM talking to the media like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjP5KxQECpA

  • Rams need a wideout even worse than we do, and we need one pretty damn bad

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7613569/st-louis-rams-jeff-fisher-leaves-door-open-signing-randy-moss

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "There's a number of players out there," Fisher said. "You guys know my familiarity with Randy. I thought he was great for our locker room."

    Things I never thought I'd ever hear together "Randy Moss" + "Great for our locker room."

    If I were Moss, I would have run the 40 at the combine. Didn't he claim he can still run in the 4.4 range? Shit, that would have been fun.

    Speaking of 40s, we need to draft this guy. He's 50ish and runs a sub 6.2!

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d81e8d293/2011-Combine-Rich-Eisen-s-40-yard-dash

  • Rams also looking to trade the #2 to Cleveland for more late round picks. Browns to take RG3.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Not happy with Colt McCoy? Looks like every team is trying for the instant star. Lookin for the next Cam Newton, maybe getting the next Jamarcus Russell. I thought he'd done pretty good with no supporting cast.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Cam Newton shocked the crap out of everyone.

    He has a pretty good supporting cast I thought. Pretty good o-line ,one good wr, and two decent tightends.

    Their defense is horrible though.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    If I were the Rams, I WOULD trade Bradford and just rebuild.

    They got an even shittier Oline than us which almost got Bradford murdered.

    They have no WRs.

    Their D is just as bad.

    Bradford's going to continue to continue to get killed back there - he's a statue.

    I would trade Bradford for a 1st and 3rd, draft RGIII who can run when the Oline breaks down and create his own offense.

    With that other 1st I would draft the best Olinemen or WR available.

    Bradford is also still under that colossal pre-tiered contract, so they would save something like 29 mil, which in turn I would use to sign the best Olineman FA.

    I know it's a bit radical, but the Rams SUCK. Look what Cam did for the Panthers.

    Also, for the record, RGIII is 6'2 3/8 something or other, so he can hang in the pocket too.

    I really like RGIII. Luck maybe the best QB, but RGIII will be the most exciting to watch on Sundays.

  • That's craaazzzzy talk on Bradford 85. Bradford is the biggest reason Fischer took the head coaching gig. Bradford is a very solid QB when healthy. Build a line around him and he will be great.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I actually agree with 85 on Bradford and rebuilding that line.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    So was David Carr, before he got shell shocked.

    I know it's a little crazy, but I would do it for a number of reasons if I were the Rams (not least of which is selling seats and not relocating ala Panthers).

    But if they could get two first round picks, then they could rebuild that oline and hope Bradford the statue doesn't crack.

  • Or they could draft Kalil ?

  • How many guys planning to make that draft party?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I'm going.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I'm almost a definite at this point; I'm just waiting on making hotel arrangements until I know where it's going to be.

  • According to sources, Mario Williams is wanting a 6good year 12to million a year contract.

    Holy crap.

    Side note. So does John Abraham but he is crazy

  • I am about to give up using my phone. Here is the tweet.

    Your Boy Roy ‏ @yourboyroy Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    RT @OmarKelly …Mario Williams [will] land a 6-year deal worth $12M a year I'm told...

    and the John Abraham tweet

    Andrew Brandt ‏ @adbrandt Close
    See that Falcons' John Abraham thinks he should be making $12M per year (don't we all?). He turns 34 in May. Good luck wi

  • Abraham is delusional.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    What does that work out to, a 72 Million dollar contract for Super Mario?

    Shit, that's franchise QB coin. Actually, that's more. Cutler is making about 8mil/yr I think.

    If he's wanting that much, I don't see us signing him. Only teams with a shit load of dough could pull that off, teams like the Bengals, Bucs.

    And whatever Abraham is smoking must be the shiznezz.

  • 12 million ? Do it.

    By the way, I won't be running at the combine.

  • I'm not saying the Bears wouldn't take Blackmon if he falls to their spot at No. 19 overall, but I'm not sure if he's what quarterback Jay Cutler had in mind last week when he spoke of the need for a receiver over 6-2.

    Second, as Sando writes, Blackmon doesn't have the kind of frame teams have sought when drafting receivers among the top 3. Since 1985, there have been only two receivers under 6-3 who were a top-5 draft pick. That knowledge, combined with offensive tackle Ryan Kalil's performance at the combine, makes it hard to imagine that Blackmon is a legitimate candidate for the Vikings to draft at No. 3 -- or for another team to trade picks with in order to select him.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/38905/justin-blackmon-isnt-a-big-receiver

  • Pioneer Press ‏ @VikingsNow Close
    #Vikings don't have to give up conditional sixth-round pick in 2013 in McNabb deal, per @TomPelissero. Didn't meet playing-time requirements

  • Any suggestions on the best sites to look at mock drafts and position breakdowns? The only site I usually go to is WalterFootball. And no I will not pay for ESPN Insider. Did that one year. The Magazine was worse than Sports Illustrated.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    nfl.com has a lot of writers post their mock drafts. You could try there but the two that really come close to being right " at least the top ten" is Mel Kiper and Todd Mcshay.

    Thus, I usually wait till two days before draft day and all of their picks are posted. Also, check yahoo rumors NFL. They had posted about the Flacons trading up for Juilio and they were right.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html

    This should help.

    Gives where they will go and their scouting report. Enjoy.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    There's a few Fifth, but the one I swear by is Profootball Weekly (Run by the man Hub), specifically Nolan Nawrocki who really breaks down the prospects. Like Artoo said, usually the 1st round goes the way Kiper, McShay and I would add Nawrocki predict in their last mock draft leading up to the draft.

    PFW

    Also, a more recent NFL site I have discovered which is a bit more fun with the draft is National Football Post.

    NFP

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApQWhXUjh6gu7wCKqbdjFcZDubYF?slug=nfp-20120224_fisher_says_rams_will_consider_haynesworth_3699

    Reuniting him back to the guy who controlled him.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvOORrGPgdeRmEKHexmU5_1DubYF?slug=jc-cole_randy_moss_contract_patriots_022412

    Moss would go to any team without guaranteed money. Someone remind me why we don't need him again? Dirt cheap..? Why again?

  • Agreed. If we got him cheap then how is the all time #2 receiver not worth a spot on our roster ? He'd be a good mentor for the rest of them. None of our receivers produced anything last year. His size alone would be invaluable in the redzone.

  • 31 other teams must be wrong, right?

  • Maybe we could ask the Vikes or the Pats?

  • St. Louis Rams dealing No. 2 pick?
    By Mark J. Miller

    The Indianapolis Colts have the No. 1 overall pick in this year's draft and are presumably going to select Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck. Former Baylor quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III will possibly be picked second, but it remains to be seen exactly which team ends up with that selection.
    ESPN reports that the St. Louis Rams, the team currently with that selection, are willing to deal the pick for the right package and multiple teams already have had preliminary discussions with St. Louis about the possibility of trading for the pick.
    The site notes that a few teams that will be looking for quarterbacks in the draft include the Cleveland Browns, Washington Redskins, Miami Dolphins and Seattle Seahawks.
    Let the rumors come to you. Follow Scoop du Jour on Twitter or Facebook.
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    Scoop Du Jour
    Fri Feb 24 06:43am EST

    Packers tagging QB Matt Flynn?
    By Mark J. Miller

    The Green Bay Packers signed tight end Jermichael Finley to a two-year, $14 million deal Wednesday. According to the Green Bay Press Gazette, this "opened the option" to put the franchise tag on backup quarterback Matt Flynn and trade him. As the paper points out, though, if a trade doesn't work out or if Flynn can't figure out a contract with a new team, the Packers will be stuck paying him $14.4 million.
    "The tag is looking like a real possibility," the paper reports. "A front office executive for an NFL team said the league doesn't discourage tag-and-trade strongly enough to prevent the Packers from doing it with Flynn if they think it's their best move."
    The deadline for franchising a player is March 5.
    The 26-year-old, who was selected in the seventh round of the 2008 draft out of Louisiana State, has appeared in 34 games over the past four seasons, completing 82 passes for 1,015 yards and nine touchdowns along with five interceptions.
    Let the rumors come to you. Follow Scoop du Jour on Twitter or Facebook.

  • http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Asl0rZG9W0KsZD4O2IxCu.1DubYF?slug=ap-bills-steviejohnson

    Go ahead and put S.Johnson out of our choices.

  • http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/David-Molk?id=2532914

    This guy had most at bench press on the line. 41 times.

    The LT Adams out of Ohio could only bench press the same weight only 19 times.

    Already told you Knoz's bench press. Thus, I don't like Mike Adams or Knoz as a first rounder.

  • Idont know if that should sway you one way or the other. They are blocking not pressing the guys. The Molk guy is a little undersized (Kruetz) and has trouble with a bull rush (Kruetz) and has hard time getting a push to create a hole for a back. And thats in college not against those huge nose tackles in the NFL.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Sorry but when someone like a wideout comes close to your bench rep, something is wrong.

  • What can he squat? How far can he pull a locomotive? Can he stop a cannonball?

  • Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Lions willing to move CB Alphonso Smith. Have shopped him to at least one team. Was a 2nd round pick by Denver in 2009

  • http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Combine-Offensive-line-workout-breakdown.html

    Take a look at these guys for the line.

  • Aaron Wilson ‏ @RavensInsider Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Whitney mercilus 'the bears have shown interest a lot of interest' he doesn't think hell go in the third round he's likely a solid one

  • Third? Isn't he first round? I like Ming. Maybe we do some horsetrading, draft Konz, Ming and Stephen Hill, and then spend the Mario cash bolstering the other positions, maybe even picking up Colston.

  • http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2012/2/26/2825196/video-of-the-day-de-prospect-whitney-mercilus?ref=yahoo

  • Oklahoma State WR Justin Blackmon recorded 14 reps on bench
    Retweeted by Your Boy Roy

    Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd put up 16 reps on bench

  • How many footballs can they juggle while competing in a log-rolling contest as they spit in each others eyes?

  • Why draft Konz when Floyd can start at Center AND be our #1 WR.

    Pat Kirwan has convinced me that drafting Konz in the first round is flat-out dumb. He put up much worse numbers on the bench then the next best prospect at C (Brewster did it 29 times) and there have been 6 Centers taken in the first round in the last ten years. We should be easily able to grab Brewster or Jones in the second instead - neither of which are in a different league from Konz.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I mean, great point but something just feels wrong when you center is just fat and not strong.

    Idk.. MB, can you make this make sense?

  • Are you talking about Garza or Konz??

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Haha.. Idk another good point.

  • Erik, while bench is not at all a good determiner of a good football player, there is ZERO reason why a guy who pushes (benches) people off themselves for a living and is as big as a house would be weak at bench. In my mind there's just no reasonable excuse. It means he's eitherweak up top, or he'sa lazy pos. Pass.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's weak at repetitively pressing a 225 lb. weight. Suppose he could shove that weight further down-field than anyone else at the combine, or bench it more times than anyone else over a 3 hour period? In other words, what if repetitive pressing ability doesn't say anything about explosive power, or lasting power?

    Obviously it doesn't say anything about leg strength or back strength. And as you said, none of this shit correlates with success in the NFL (afaik).

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Exactly. High reps of weight is not related to burst or sheer strength. They're different types of muscle striations. Can the guy play the position of center - that's all that counts.

  • No, is he "worth a first round pick when there are going to be equivalent guys in the second" is what counts.

    Pressing 18 when the next guy up presses 29 does not make you an auto-first round pick by any stretch of the imagination.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wha?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    how is that confusing?
    You don't spend a first round pick on a "maybe".
    Particularly, you don't do it on somebody who grades out like a hot cup of ass at the combine at a position that doesn't normally go, if at all, in the first round.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No, you don't spend a first on a maybe, not if you can help it, which you can't. The question is, what information is relevant in evaluating a football player, and what isn't? Prior performance on the football field is. Reps on a weight bench probably isn't.

    If there are questions about a player's ability, the thing to do is to go over some game tapes, and get some answers. You'd probably find that Konz controlled opponents in college who pressed twice his reps at the combine. He probably beat guys who beat other lineman who pressed twice his reps at the combine.

    I'm just guessing there, but you'd think if he played like a hot cup of ass in college, he wouldn't have been so highly rated coming into the combine.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Out of any position on the offensive line, you better have world class upper body strength if you want to play Center in the NFL. And yet again, spending a first round pick on that position in the first place is fairly rare, so why do it when there are other guys just as highly rated who don't have a big red flag in their combine numbers?
    The average draft position for centers in the first round over the last ten years is in the low twenties, so if Konz isn't a can't miss prospect at the position and Garza didn't just get hit by a bus, why are we talking about spending a mid-round pick on him?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I didn't say the Bears should pick Konz. It would be an empty statement if I did. I haven't seen him play. I've seen some game clips, a combine result, and several so-called scouting reports. Those scouting reports might have been written by college footballholics with good judgement or blowhards. IDK. Most people are blowhards.

    All I know is that past performance on a football field is a much, much better predictor of future performance on a football field than some random weightlifting event. To downgrade Konz based on that is crazy.

    As for upper body strength, it isn't evaluated at the combine.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Well, Crunch, my response was to Irish, who among others, thinks Konz should be our first round pick. So, yes, my argument is he isn't worth it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I get it - you think the combine is pointless.
    But the guys in the NFL don't, and they make their living off of the game, so I guess I'll go with their opinions on whether the bench is a worthwhile measurable or not.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Look how being strong worked out for Paea though. We could have had you-know-who.

    If Konz is a solid center then I don't know that his benching is all that important. Some days you can push a lot of weight, and other days you can feel weak as a kitten, we're not machines. Judging the guy on a one-time weightlifting session when his job is playing center? Judge him on his college career.

    If he falls to the second, so be it, but he's not going to fall to us in the second. We'll have to draft a center this year or the next. If anyone falls, I hope it's Richardson ... and I hope E-train (nice one Lobo!) has the sand to draft him.

  • If Richardson falls to us.. whoa.

  • We could have had the guy that ripped his Achilles tendon on day one?
    That guy?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yup. It's a chaotic universe out there.

  • My point is:
    Comparing a guy who didn't even make it through his first practice before suffering a catastrophic injury to a guy that was in a rotation at DT with four other guys = pure conjecture.
    What do we know about LeShoure as an NFL running back? Zero...well, actually worse than that since we now know he's got a surgically repaired Achilles. That is not an easy thing to get over.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Don't get me wrong either, I liked LeShoure - I follow Illinois football.
    But let's find out what he has this year.

  • Cecil Lammey ‏ @cecillammey Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    heard from two sources the #bears would be interested in both Dwayne Bowe and Eddie Royal

    Brian Mackler, agent for #Bears free agent CB Tim Jennings, says don't be surprised if Jennings returns to the team in 2012.

    Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Romeo Crennel says Chiefs want to keep WR Dwayne Bowe but can't "definitely" say he'll be back

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/25/chargers-tell-vincent-jacksons-agents-that-franchise-tag-is-improbable/

    Jackson's agent saying Franchise tag very very unlikely.

    Team has 3 free agent CBs with Jennings, Corey Graham and Zack Bowman. Graham's agent has met with club at combine.

    #Bears have more meetings scheduled for today and I'm told they could be targeting free-agent help on special teams

    Brad Biggs ‏ @BradBiggs Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Also, team had good meeting with agent for DT Amobi Okoye& after Lovie Smith talked him up Thursday, he'll at least be in mix for offer

  • Shawn Zobel ‏ @ShawnZobel_DHQ Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Mohamed Sanu/Rutgers/19 reps, Nick Toon/Wisconsin/18 reps, Rueben Randle/LSU/15 reps, Marvin Jones/Cal/22 reps, Dwight Jones/UNC/14 reps

    I am still on the Sanu bandwagon. If we do not get him, I will def keep up with what happens to him.

  • Mayock slammed him pretty bad, that'll do for me.

  • Sanu ran a 4.67 40 at the combine. That sounds pretty slow.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I changed my tune. Look for the Stephen Hill video and bio.

    Did not know he was 6'4 and insanely fast.

  • Stephen Hill has all the measurables.

    He ran a 4.36

    No, that is not a typo. He's 6'4 215 and ran a 4.36. He also jumped 39'.

    There's your combine Megatron (or Damaryius Thomas - the Bronco who went 80 yds to beat the Steelers in OT).

    Hill also displayed really nice hands, diving for a catch (which to me shows competitiveness)

    The knock on Hill was that he played in an option O, so that maybe his route running knowledge was very limited, but that stuff can be learned.

    Hill may have just ran himself into the late first round. I just hope he doesn't fall to GB or Det, that would suck major balls.

  • I thought maybe we could pick him up in the third, but not now ... he might even go in the first ?

  • Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Look for the two strongest players at the combine to turn out to be Michigan men: center David Molk and DT Mike Martin.

  • Bowe will be franchised if no deal is reached. According to Schefter

  • However, it sounds like Mercilus is getting lots of attention from the Bears.
    If we can nab him in the 2nd or 3rd, I'm going to be jumping around like a crazy person - he is a beast at DE.

  • Biggs comments on twitter make it sound like Corey Graham is probably gone.

    That's bums me out - the guy was crazy good on ST the last couple of years.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    +1

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That would be a HUGE misrake erik. It would upset me and in my book, would be a big, early strike one against the emery regime.

    We have a history of letting our best young talent leave just to sorely regret it shortly thereafter... I was hopeful that trend would stop when fuckface was shitcanned. We need to keep ckret graham at

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cory.... All reasonable costs.

    Fucking phone

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lol I know, I would like to keep him, he has been great on ST.

    Great guy and player.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Man, how could we let Corey go?

    He's like a SP teams heat seeking missle. I've never seen a guy be RIGHT in the face of a returner as he's catching the ball each and every time.

    Corey also looked solid in the nickle. Maybe a little too good since now he wants to go where he can start.

    If they don't resign him that's just another draft pick we have to use up.

  • Bowe isabout to be franchised according to sources

  • It's looking we will have to pay a lot to get Mr.Jackson or hope for the dream of getting Marshall.

    Second best will suck. Especially if he is over paid.

  • Do we risk going Colston?

    An analyst made a remark about Colston which kinda sticks in my mind.

    He said, if Colston is willing to leave a good team with a HOF QB in a system he excels in just for money, that it would say a lot about his priorities.

    Not sure if that's fair, but it gnaws at me when I think about that in our locker room.

    Not only that, but then creep in the doubts about him being a "system" player, or injury prone.

    We may not really have a choice.

  • I think both Colston and V-jax could stay where they are. Stephen Hill is turning me on at this point.

  • Chiefs would consider Peyton Manning

  • http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d827344d9/Best-value-Top-10-RB-or-WR?module=HP11_content_stream

  • The last first round running back to start in a Superbowl is Thomas Jones.

    He was first with Arizona then came to us.

  • http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d827343ea/Faulk-s-top-five-RBs?continuous=true

  • Top LB's

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d82734253/Top-LBs-preview?continuous=true

  • Luke Kuechly is considered the best instinctive Lb in the draft. Someone to look at if he drops in the second round for Mr. Urlacher to train.

  • I like Hightower - look at the bang on this guy. 265lbs.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d82734253/Top-LBs-preview

  • No way Kuechly falls to the second (unless he runs like a 4.9 40 or something).

    Too many teams need LBs. Most drafts have the Eagles choosing him. The Gmen also wouldn't mind getting him, or even the Pats, who love those type of LBs.

  • Hey Superman, you should get your own Bears draft blog. You're putting out more info than most bloggers. I don't follow college ball or the draft but appreciate all the info. Carry on Man of Steel.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I told him he needs to get in touch with a scouting service and see if he can finagle an internship or low-level job out of it.
    If I were 21 again, that's what I'd do.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Mike, I would love to do that.. show me where I need to go and fill out paper workout.

    Watching football all day? IN my Superman suit? Someone pinch me!

  • Google, your telephone, and gas for your car.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Get contact info for as many different services as you can, figure out how much you're willing to devote to this and if it's something you can envision spending 24-7 time on, and then sell yourself like crazy to them. I would be surprised if it pays much of anything early on, but I am sure the experience is priceless.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    http://www.ehow.com/how_4466221_become-football-scout.html

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That would be sweet. The only part that sucks is that I have to work against the Bears.

    Would suck.. " Hey Lovie, who do you have on your draft board?"

    "Now Erik, we can't tell you that and why are you calling me?'

    " Belichick is giving a break and I know who you should draft, and I know you want to draft a pool boy."

    "Erik, he has so much potential and he is exactly what we need...hello..Erik?'

    Erik throws phone across room. Belichick " Told you son, stubborn as a mule."

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, look at the millions Angelo made, Artoo. - and he fooled the Bears for ten years. Not us - but the Bears .... as long as you can fool some of the people some of the time ....

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I could but I rather stay here. I have never been around more sane or sound fans in my life.

    The fact we are not blinded by our weaknesses and know where we need help, is better than most fans I have ever been around.

    You know how many times I have been told we needed a running back? When we had Forte? ... I'll stay here.

  • Totally agree. The only time we go nuts is during and right after really bad games. A lot of us are temporarily nuts for about 24 hours then it's back to the norm.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The tebowl and the chiefs game gave new boundaries to the 24 hour madness.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    No doubt.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Palko Tebow Stress Disorder, I still gots it. Next close game...

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I've done the healthy thing and blacked out the last third of the season from my memory.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Repressed memories don't go away. You think they do, but they don't. Next close game... tic-tic-tic-tic-tic.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Copious amoungs of ganja...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    4ever85,

    I just read something about that:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/26/1068413/-Study-Medical-Marijuana-Legalization-leads-to-decrease-in-suicide-rates?via=search

    It appears that the reduced suicide rate is not so much due to the increase in ganja use as it is due to the decrease in alcohol use.

    'Cause you know how that goes... Your team unexpectedly loses, you get shitfaced, you do something embarrassing, your sister Meagan posts it on youtube, and you jump off a bridge, unless you're from Green Bay, then you just continue on, stinking up the planet.

    Imagine if, instead of getting hammered, Meagan's sister had gotten high? It would have been a very different video. Oh wow, sparkles.

  • I like Bowen and Biggs but you would think that the Trib was sending out junior high AV club kids to film these spots.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery/68331590/Sports/Brad-Biggs-and-Matt-Bowen-at-the-NFL-Combine

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Mind you, kids with way, way too much caffeine in their systems....wait, are those little shits filming spots for the Chicago Tribune after whipping my ass in MW3?

    -grumble, fucking grumble-

  • This link just states the obvious but still, I hope we get him.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/38928/how-about-kyle-orton-as-bears-backup-qb

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    That would be the best move we could make. I hope they could find a way to bring Kyle back. We could win games with Kyle. Just can't believe he'd end up here - he can start for a lot of teams.

  • You are correct Irish.

  • I'm cautiously optimistic about Emery fixing the WR position. At the very least getting us some much needed help. JA did some things very well but his blind spots were maddening. Year after year we needed help at WR and OL. Every year he'd add mediocre DL, safeties and LB's.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I really want to know if Jerry felt like he had to always draft on the D side because of Lovie.

  • I'm going with the Jerry was a dumbass theory.

  • Stephen Hill ran a 4.30

    Floyd ran 4.42

  • http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-hill?id=2533537

    Why didn't someone tell me this guy is 6'4!!!!!!

    Sanu.. My man crush has left you.

  • http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mohamed-sanu?id=2533040

  • RGIII ran an unofficial 4.38.
    Holy shit, that's almost .3 faster than Newton ran last year.

    IIf I'm the Rams, I absolutely lose Bradford for a pick and grab Griffin (if he's there - which I'm not so sure is going to be the case). If Luck is there, I'd trade the pick.

    BTW, Stephen Hill? Yeah, he clocked a 4.30 flat.

  • Stephen Hill ran a 4.30

    Floyd rand 4.42

    And Alshon. Jeffery is trying to avoid his 40 time.

    The patriots will franchise Welker, eagles will franchise Jackson,and chiefs will franchise Bowe. V.jackson should be available still but with other teams with more cap space and. The lack of other Wr on the FA market make a top Fa signing tough for the bears

  • The only one of those that doesn't make sense is the tag on Jackson unless the Eagles think they're going to be able to unload him via trade.
    He has put up good receiving yards but is not a red zone threat at all. He's also one of the worst locker room influences in the league.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah they are trying to trade him or "listening" to offers

  • I just don't see what kind of market there is for him at that asking price unless he agrees to restructure his contract as part of the tag and trade.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Depends who misses out on the Wr FA market and if they can't draft a decent Wr in the first round.

  • It sure as shit better not be us.

    The thought makes me queasy.

  • ProFootballTalk ‏ @ProFootballTalk Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Report: Manningham "expected" to land with Bucs bit.ly/wSkQXc

  • With the acceptable FA WR pool shrinking by the hour, it seems the price in a seller's market of whoever is left would be hard to justify paying. Looks more and more like a big wide receiver is going to have to be drafted and their NFL learning curve tolerated. Rats....

  • Matt Bowen ‏ @MattBowen41 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    How about former #Hawkeyes WR Marvin McNutt? Runs a 4.42 40. Speed was the No.1 question on Marvin from scouts I talked to at Senior Bowl.

  • Pat Kirwan was raving about his hands today. If McNutt is available in the second, he's a must grab.

  • Matt Bowen ‏ @MattBowen41 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    Two times that boost draft stock: Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd (4.42), Georgia Tech WR Stephen Hill (4.3). Both size/speed talents.

  • Jebus H Baloobas. 4.3 on a guy that's 6'5 ??? I just got a semi.

  • When does free agency actually begin this year?

  • March 13 but stuff will happen 12 am that night.

  • Sean Jensen ‏ @skjensen Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    RT @RavensInsider: Hearing #Bears are a logical destination for Ravens guard Ben Grubbs if he leaves Baltimore. Nothing concrete right now

  • This would make me a very happy guy.

  • I love Cutty.

    But I'd take RGIII in a kitten's heartbeat.

  • Ok you've earned yourself a predator missle drone strike for that comment.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Nah, let him walk into his own Claymore.. he will learn.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Just sayin', mangs. (or is it meng?)

  • We'll have to check with MB30 for clarification, but I believe it's maings maing.

  • http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d82737c2f/Mayock-s-impressions-on-receivers?module=HP11_content_stream

  • http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/09000d5d827378aa/Hill-making-a-presence?continuous=true

    These are for you Irish.

  • It sucks in a way. Hill would have been a 3rd gem before this, but now everyone in the league will have a boner for this guy in the 2nd. Same with Marshall - we could have maybe waltzed in there with a 2nd or two 3rds for him before the pro bowl, then he catches 12 million TD passes.

  • I may be naive but I don't think the Pro Bowl impacted the Fins asking price at all. GM's aren't dumb enough to a) watch the Pro Bowl, and b) believe that any stats from it are worth the paper they are written on.
    It is about as meaningless as the NBA All-Star game - maybe even more so.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That would be good news for us then. It's still a thinker, two picks is a lot when you're trying to fill spots, when you could draft Hill and hope he learns real quick - which is unlikely. Or just be done with it and pay Colston.

  • I'd feel better drafting Hill, depending on the round than taking a flyer on Colston. That guy worries me.

  • The running back from Florida is telling people he is going to run a 4.1

    No. I did not type that wrong.

  • Mr. McLargeHuge, I think you are now the most prolific blogger on the site, at least the last two weeks. Mr. SanDiego ain't even close right now, or Mr. LiberalVirginian..

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Damn, Corm, I just ordered new business cards.

  • We cut Anthony adams

  • And Amobi Okoye says thank you very much because that 1.5 mil in cap space is transferring into his bank account.

    This also tells me that Paea has become our next run stopper DT.

    We're pretty set at DT with the emergence of Melton. Melton 3 tech disrupter, with Okoye (once he gets signed) spelling him.

    The Samoans consuming the center/lg in Big Toe and Paea.

    Along with some unknown DT we draft annually.

  • When talking about the line Lovie never mentioned Adam s or Big toe...look for more cuts to happen

  • Fare thee well 8-ball .... eh .... you were fat.

  • Our WR FA options seem to be shrinking.

    Vjax. Rumors of being tagged, but maybe that's just a GM ploy. Regardless, he's going to be expensive, and other teams with 20 mil more in cap space may outbid us.

    Bowe. Reports are that he'll be tagged.

    Colston. Reports are that he's trying to stay on the Saints, but the Saints have bigger fish to fry, namely, resigning Brees.

    S. Smith. Reports are that he's working out a contract with Bills.

    M. Williams may be asking for 12 mil a year. I love him, but that sounds outrageous.

    So who's left in FA?

  • Meachum from the Saints....Although probably not as a nr1. But a Floyd/Meachum combo...

  • From ESPN Chicago:

    "WHY MEACHEM MIGHT MAKE SENSE

    Dynamic playmakers such as Philadelphia’s DeSean Jackson, Buffalo’s Steve Johnson and Kansas City’s Dwayne Bowe likely won’t see the free agent market because of franchise tags or the sides working out new agreements. And it’s highly unlikely Vincent Jackson or Colston will either.

    New Orleans is trying to work out an extension for quarterback Drew Brees, and once that’s done, it’s likely the Saints will turn their attention to Colston. So they’ll ultimately wind up having to part ways with Meachem. But don’t let Meachem’s production in 2011 (40 catches, 620 yards and 6 TDs) fool you. His lack of mega numbers stems in part from New Orleans’ spread-the-wealth system, and the fact he often became the clear-out man to open up things underneath for tight end Jimmy Graham.

    Meachem’s explosive deep speed is part of the reason he became somewhat of a decoy. But he possesses the physical attributes to thrive in the right situation."

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Meachem's 6'2 210.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/robertmeachem/2495676/profile

    Fast and avg. 15yds/ca, so that's good cuz he's not a pure possession receiver like Bennett.

    I agree. A Floyd/Meachem/Bennett combo might be the best option for our WR corp.

    Unless something unexpected happens between now and the start of FA. However, with WRs, you never know.

  • And since we're in combine mode

    Robert Meachem (27 yrs old now)

    6'2 210 4.39 (40); 37" (vertical).

    Dang, never realized he was that fast. He's a little older now, so maybe he runs like a 4.3? That's still fast. He also won't warrant a king's ransom, so maybe we can scoop up LT McNeil/Gaither from SD.

  • On the downside, Floyd scored big today. I'm starting to think he'll be gone by 19...

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    He's like Knox only with talent. If he was one of two receivers we pick up, the other being 6'5, I could live with it.

  • I would have paid him 15 million. It practically puts you in the superbowl.

    Again, if Richardson falls to us we have to draft him and deal Forte ... take that cash and sign Williams. Pick up Hill in the second maybe. We could still have a first or second from the Forte deal to pick up Konz ...

    We need to maximize Forte's worth instead of treating him like the second coming. He's not a short yardage back and his pass-blocking sucks. Richardson ticks all the boxes.

    There are so many exciting possibilities this year, it makes such a change from previous drafts where you were just wondering how Jerry was going to fuck it up again.

  • Forte is an above average pass blocker Irish. I don't get your Richardson boner.

  • Bottom line:
    Matt Forte is a proven, top-tier NFL running back. Richardson, while a strong prospect, is not.

  • Unless we trade every pick in the first four rounds to move up into the first six picks, we're not getting Richardson.

    If he falls to 19, it would be because an absolutely terrible red flag came up, like say, a back injury or substance abuse problem.

  • From Wes Bunting at NFP:
    " What can you say about the performance put on by Georgia Tech wide out Stephen Hill? The 6-4, 215-pound wide out blitzed his 40 in the low 4.3 range and at his size could now make a run at the back end of round one. He’s an explosive leaper as well and can routinely win down the football field. Size/speed gets you drafted high and Hill has an elite combo."

    F*** i said couple weeks ago i'd love it if we could get him with our first 3rd round pick. But with those results...

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Was it you BX? I know a few weeks back someone here pointed Hill's highlight vid out, and he looked like a monster.

    He only caught 28 balls all year though (because of the option O he was in) - so he's the ultimate gamble so far.

    The question is, if Floyd's gone, do we select him as high as 19?

  • i mentioned Hill in the post about offseason plans, and someone else dug up a vid in response.

    19 would be a huuuuuuge risk. If he's still there in the 3rd, im taking him. I mean when you look at the WR's in the draft, there's a bunch of them that are graded higher than him. He's supposed to be a project player. But now with his combine scores, who knows what's gonna happen.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    What impressed me most about his combine (aside from his crazy 40) was his soft hands.

    Hill will be gone by the 3rd - I just hope he lasts until our 2nd pick, esp if Floyd is gone by 19.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    I'd trade down to get him and stash an extra pick. Normally I'm not big on speed - see Hester/Knox - but when you're 6'4 to boot - that is kind of scary. Our very own almost-Megatron ... with the giganto twins at TE and Forte and Clutts and Bennett ... Cutty on the boot ? Damn. We could save money on the #1 FA WR and sign Mario too. DAMN!!

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    Yeah, I think it was you who turned me onto his profile page. He had me at 6'4 ....

  • Hey Doc, everyone thought Jamarcus Russell was a sure bet. Never walk away from a sure bet. Which one of those top two is the next Ryan Leaf? I can't believe you would walk away from Culter for an unknown.

  • On the plus side, some WR prospects at the combine are looking promising.

    Michael Floyd. 6'2 5/8 220 pounds. 4.47 (40). 36 1/2"(vertical) 10' 2" (broad).

    Displayed soft hands and nice route running. "A little stiff at the top of his route, but all tall guys are. However, he's also the top two or three run blocking WRs in the draft." - Mayock

    Floyd's biggest question mark was his speed, but he answered that. The next knock was his alcohol related off field issue, and only interviews can determine that.

    Floyd looks real solid for us as 19 - if he lasts that long.

  • Alcohol issues - he said he'd "matured" since. Sorry son, you're still a child and will probably never mature, being the spoilt, sheltered football player you are.

    Size - Before we draft in the first round we really need to listen to Cutler and our own hearts and accept that 6'2 is not "tall". It might make you look good in the shower, but 6'4+ is what we're looking for.

    My Stephen Hill boner is increasing by the hour.

  • Who are the other teams as in dire need of a big receiver as the Bears? IOW, who's are competition, both in free agency and the draft?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Doh! "our" not "are"....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    A few actually.

    Bengals already have a stud WR, but they're about 40 mil under the cap, and might want to surround Dalton with another weapon. Most speculate that they'll add a HB/WR through the draft of FA.

    Rams need a WR, but they're a little bit more cash strapped, so if they stay at #2 in the draft, then they'll most likely take Blackmon or swoop one up before us in the 2nd round. Not expected to do much in FA.

    Bucs, 49ers, Jags, and Browns also need a WR, but they have roughly about the same cap we do. (Texans too, but they're looking for a #2 to complement Johnson).

    Still, it only takes ONE team to make some ridiculous offer to Vjax or Meachem to screw everything up.

    You can look down this cap list to match which teams need a WR with the mula they have to spend.

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html

  • Personally, I feel the Bengals, 49ers, Jags, Bucs and Browns (in that order) will be our main competition for a #1 WR in FA.

  • Thanks for that link. Unfortunately, I don't think what we've all been clamoring for is going to be available in free agency unless we overpay...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Trade for Marshall. He wont break the bank

  • Are Dolphins even discreetly putting him out there? If so, what do they want for him?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Either a first

    Two seconds

    Second and a third thisyear

    Second andI two thirds this year

  • It's a shame Knox got injured, package him with a second or a third and it would have been sweet ... but the more I think about it, rather than give up the picks for a guy who has one strike left and a good few miles on the clock already ... go after Stephen Hill and use those picks where we need them. Angelo has left us a lot of holes on the roster - if we don't plug them we sink like a stone. I can still scarcely believe the Giants won the Lombardi this year. They're not that good - they even made some people talk about Eli Manning being 'elite' just because he had 4 good WRs at his disposal. We can be semi-spectacular with 2.

    And if we tag Mario onto that DL ..... mang oh mang.

  • And none of those teams have outstanding QBs. I'm not getting on the Alex Smith bandwagon. Dalton might be good one day.

    Cutty and a black HC is going to be top of any receivers list if similar cash is bandied about.

  • It's funny Irish, cuz it's almost the chicken and egg argument, but the Bengals, 49ers, Jags, Bucs and Browns are tied to their qbs for one reason or another, and believe Dalton, Alex Smith, Gabbert, Freeman and McCoy just need a big time WR.

    I agree though, if the $ is about the same, we have an edge with qb.

    But the Bengals can throw a major contract out there, and the 49ers have Harbaugh, nice weather, and a one play away from SB team to offer.

  • I'm still at a loss to as to how Alex Smith did not completely suck this year.

  • Moss is going to be signed soon. Many teams are interested

  • I don't know much but I know Moss is dunzo.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    You mean this Moss?

    http://youtu.be/HHtKJoi7eRY

  • ha!

    "short answer...yes....shorter answer...no".

    pretty good stuff.

  • http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0226-bits-bulls-all-star-chicago--20120226,0,7611985.story

    Goddamn D Rose just got paid....again. That is the kind of contract that sets up the next 5 generations of a family. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Guess that depends on how big your posse is.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1064362-2012-nfl-free-agency-each-wide-receivers-odds-of-signing-with-the-bears/page/9

    Sweet. Ignore the S.Jackson one because I am sure he is staying Buffalo unless something drastic happens.

  • and Mario Manningham.

  • Jeffery weighed in at 215, down more than 15 pounds from his playing weight during the season, but it wasn't enough to impress scouts. They said he did poorly in interviews and appeared as if he had not been lifting weights.

    Hill could be a late riser. He caught only 28 passes but averaged 29.3 yards per catch. He is considered a bit raw, but his speed, combined with a 6-4 frame, is intriguing to NFL teams.

    dpompei@tribune.com

  • http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1058881-phil-emerys-realistic-blueprint-for-chicago-bears-2012-super-bowl-run

  • Super Bowl-winning coach Jimmy Johnson also points out that running backs historically lead the league in rushing for no more than three years. And when they go downhill, they go downhill fast.

  • http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Jimmy-Johnson-Chris-Johnson-Tennessee-Titans-running-backs-overpaid-Week-8-Review-103011

  • Unless they're freakish like Payton, that's increasingly becoming the case - we should shop Forte now while he's worth something, and spend that 8M elsewhere. Surely he's got to be worth two high picks. Think about it. We could have Konz / Burfict (insert linebacker)/ Hill and Ming .. .and still have two third round picks ... with a boatload of cash saved on Forte.

    We could afford Mario Williams on top of kich-ass youngsters. Imagine that. Peppers, Williams and Ming in rotation - just like the G-men.

    Well we'd need a new running back, but perhaps with the highest pick for Forte we could grab Richardson.

    Time to trade Matt methinks.

  • Hub tonight on his show thought that the lack of signing Izzy at this point may signal that he's out.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Precursor to signing Mario?

    A lot of teams will have their eye on Mario and we're one of the few that (a) could make room for him cap-wise (b) has an attractive destination plus a player friendly coach and a good defensive teacher in Maranelli

    Or ...

    They're drafting Ming.

    Would it be possible to trade down in the first, do a little jiggery pokery with our two third round picks in order to draft Konz, Ming and Hill ? How sweet would that be ? That would be like a slow BJ from Jennifer Lopez.

  • While I appreciated JLo's pasties at the Academy last night, she coulda used some implants early on in her career. Something about moehills.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I love that she didn't get implants. Nothing better than a hot athletic girl. If you need a hot latina with huge bombs see exhibit A:

    http://www.popcrunch.com/category/sofia-vergara/

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    small boobies make me sad.

    (especially when accompanied by a huge ass)

  • http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/bears-talk/post/New-Cutler-contract-coming?blockID=658452&feedID=10330

  • Cornerback Brent Grimes may only be 5-10, but the Atlanta Falcons are hoping he'll cast his shadow in the Peach State for many years to come. ESPN reports that the team is aggressively trying to get Grimes to sign to a long-term deal.
    Atlanta general manager Thomas Dimitroff told reporters at the scouting combine that "serious talks had begun with Grimes' agents" and that the team wasn't "wasting time with our discussions," according to the site.
    The 28-year-old Grimes who went undrafted out of Shippensburg University in 2006, joined the Falcons in 2007 and has had 241 tackles, 13 interceptions, and one trip to the Pro Bowl since. Last season, he was involved with 49 tackles and one interception.
    Don't forget to follow Scoop du Jour on Twitter or Facebook.

    Running back Marshawn Lynch has only spent one full season with the Seattle Seahawks after being traded early in the 2010-11 season from the Buffalo Bills.
    Seattle has seen enough of the 25-year-old Oakland native that the team knows it would like to keep him around. ProFootballTalk reports that a rumor is circulating that the two sides are close to agreeing on a long-term contract. However, a source to the site says the rumor is not true and "though the two sides are talking, the breakthrough still hasn't come."
    If a deal can't get done by March 5, the Seahawks "are expected to use the franchise tag on Lynch, the site notes.
    Lynch, who has been to the Pro Bowl twice in his five seasons of work, rushed for a career-high 1,204 yards and 12 touchdowns this past season. He scored another as a receiver and gained 212 yards in the air as well.
    Follow Scoop du Jour on Twitter or Facebook.

  • If we get a corner I'd like to see one that can compete a little with these Megatron bodies, like a 6'2/6'3 guy - the game is changing and we have to adapt with it.

  • How about a SS that can lay somebody out instead of crunching like pringles in a dropped can?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I prefer SS that can tackle

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    You get neither with Major Major.

  • The tallest cornerback in the league last year was 6'3". Finding one that can cover at that height is extraordinarily rare - because if they're fast enough, athletic enough and have smooth hips at that height, they'd be playing wide receiver and making the big money.
    Maybe if we trade Forte, we can package our picks for Floyd and Hill, and convert one of them to cornerback.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'd much rather invest the pick and/or money in DE/DT and upgrade the SS position than spend high draft picks on a cornerback, when they'll play more zone in Lovie's D than anything else. It's great to have a big corner but that size usually trades off with the ability to break on a route.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Dre Kirkpatrick is 6'2.

    He may fall to us if some team chooses Janoris Jenkins ahead of him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's crazy enough for me to like it !

  • dre K would be a great pick up for us... amazing athlete and a stand up kid according to all reports.

    Yes on a FA CB too... there are plenty out there... like carlos rodg from SF.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, if Dre K, Mercilus, Keuchly, Mike Adams and Floyd are on the board when we're up (might be the case), that's gonna be a tough choice to make.

  • Also, Rodgers played great in SF, and I don't see him leaving.

    That might be good for us if SF overpays for him, thus chipping into their cap for an FA WR, which they already stated was a priority.

  • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/02/25/snap-judgments-combine-saturday/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a2

  • Hey guys.

    What about Mathis from Indy. Unrestricted, and probably not really interested in being part of a rebuilding project at this stage.

    Ok, he's already 31. But still hit 9.5 sacks last year. I'd seriously consider giving him a 3 year deal if he would accept a reasonable deal. He's used to cover 2, and i think he'd look good next to Melton and opposite Pep.

    He could be a 'bridge' while we groom another player. we could draft another DE with our second, assuming we get a receiver with our 1st.

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    ow, just seeing he's probably getting tagged by Colts...

  • In reply to BXLBearsFan:

    I mentioned Mathis a couple weeks back as a possible FA pickup. Mathis could be a solid upgrade from Izzy, but we'll still need to look at getting some youth in the mix at DE. Wootton does not appear to be the long term answer, but he could continue to develop this year (his third as a pro).

    I'd take Mathis for value money, but I probably wouldn't break the bank on him.

  • Double A released.

    Only took 29% of defensive snaps last year, seemed to have lost his entire bull rush, turns 32 this summer. AA, we salute your work as a Bear, time to hang up the cleats and call Jenny Craig my maing.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It was the calf injury. Fucking injury never heals. He is done.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    We're all in with flatbread now.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Life in the NFL, eh? Thanks for the years, Anthony.

  • DT Measurables

    First off, this draft class is ripe with DTs (and WRs), so it's entirely possible we could wait till the 3rd round and scoop a quality starter.

    Secondly, 40 times usually don't mean squat for these guys. What matters more is the 10 yd split cause that gauges how quickly they can get into the back field off the snap. It is esp important for our Cover 2, since we traditionally like those lighter quicker 3 techs like Harris (who had an insane 10 yd split).

    Mayock and Kiper were talking about what matters for these guys, and I'll paraphrase.

    DT ( Players like Kevin Williams, Suh, Marcell Dareus, Docket, Kyle Williams were all roughly in this range)

    Jump - 31 (explosion)
    Bench - 28 (strength)
    10 yd Split - 1.7 (penetration)

    So look for us to draft a prospect in the later rounds who had production and hopefully some of these measurables. Most likely, the Bears will draft a little known DT who is just under 300 whose split hovers around 1.7 to groom.

  • Since we're talking Dline, there's a little make over for the Bears going on.

    One. AA be gone. He didn't really play last year, and our run D was still solid, hence he was expendable. They're using that 1.5 mil to resign Amobi to try to fill that all important 3 tech sacker.

    Two. They haven't resigned Izzy yet, and mums is the word on Toeina. What this tells me is that both might be gone too. It's no coincidence that Izzy failed to meet expectations, and that DE Whitney Mercilus has been on the Bears radar as their Justin Pierre Paul. I also think that Big Toe will be replaced by Paea. Apparently, Paea showed enough late in the year to make this move.

    Here's some links on the Dline.

    Lovie talking Dline.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?STORY_ID=8658

    AA released and why

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears

    Whitney Mercilus possibly being our 1st round pick.

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2012/02/bears_interested_in_illinois_d.html

  • bears taking a DT in the first?!?!?!? Shocking, just shocking.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's a DE - the best in the Big 10 this year...had somewhere north of 13 sacks, I believe?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/scouting-the-draft-whitney-mercilus-of-illinois/

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Sorry, 16 sacks altogether in 2011.
    Not too shabby.

  • Martin, eh?

    http://draftace.com/blog/mockdraft/mockdraft2/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    dead link

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Try it again, works for me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, it worked for me.

    I HIGHLY doubt Martin falls to us, and if he does, somethings up.

    The BearJew "fell" to us, and now there's questions about his knee.

  • I know there's shitloads of football to talk about right now, but I just had to post this to clear up any and all questions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xdGsKzmCgB0

    Hey 4e ($), are we on the same page now? I mean, two words.... Oh. my. Holy. Goodness. Gracious!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That looks pretty juicy - the hamburger that is!

    She's hot. Maybe I'm not objective enough though. Maybe I got a Latina fetish. I've been with both, blonds and brunettes, and the brunettes rock the bed, so they rewired my boners lol

    I wish Ms Turkey would've done something like Kate did, but I guess she would get caned by Turkey when she got back if she had (which would also arouse me). U-S-A U-S-A!

  • Agreed the all american blonde just doesn't do it. Latin spice or the dark brunettes.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Or the brown hair girl types like Portman and Giada. Giada is getting older, but damn did she have it going on

    http://www.straitpinkie.com/girls/uh-yump/giada-de-laurentiisuh-yump/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes, Portman - and her older sister, Giada!

    Jolie in her Billy Bob vile of blood necklace days was hot too.

    http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbs0cbGc9I1qz9qooo1_500.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, I should specify, AMERICAN BLONDS.

    Never been with a Russian or Sweedish blond, so my sample size might be skewed.

    Then blonds I've been with have had Irish, German, Dutch, some Scandanavian - usually some mix, but American nonetheless.

    One of my pals went to the Ukraine once and highly recommends the experience, so there's that.

  • Hahahaha. Fair enough.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That being said, I don't mind blonds at all, so if you have more blond goodies, I won't object lol

    I thought Anna Nicole in her pole dancing days was VERY fucking hot. I can see why a Billionaire chose her.

    http://bumpshack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ansguess3.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Put me down for French-Canadian women.

    I like Latin girls and\ really pale women with flawless skin. Not interested in redheads. 2 worst lays in my life were both redheads. Not to mention the temper. Still not gonna complain about your gal Kate! Of course, for me it all comes down to attitude. If they want to be with you and are enthusiastic about it, all the rest is gravy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Blondes don't do it for me man, they all look the same with make up on. Dark chocolate ... ah yes mon.

  • Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
    Browns signed LB D'Qwell Jackson on a five-year, $42.5 million deal that includes $19 millin in guaranteed money and roster bonuses.

    That's gonna make Briggs mad.

  • Briggs better not get too mad cuz Burfict just ran a horrible 40 which might make him fall to us in the 2nd.

  • Actually, Someone said the Lions would pick him up as a first. Believe it or not.

  • Burfict ran a 4.93

  • You watching the NFL network Artoo?

    Can't believe Burifict ran that slow. You know who ran a 4.9?

    Kalil.

    No shit. When a LT runs as fast as a LB, somethings very wrong or very right.

  • NFL.com is the best choice for all the info right now.

  • New thread.

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