Packers Loss Proves Tenuous Relationship Between Regular Season Success and Super Bowl Titles

Packers Loss Proves Tenuous Relationship Between Regular Season Success and Super Bowl Titles

They won fifteen of their sixteen regular season games, these Green Bay Packers. You remember them, right? These are the Green Bay Packers that won last year's Super Bowl as the NFC's six seed. These are the Green Bay Packers that ran through their regular season record with ease, doubling the scoring output of their opponents. These are the Green Bay Packers Ted Phillips was referring to when he addressed an attempt to narrow the talent gap between the Bears and the other teams in the NFC North. These Green Bay Packers were quickly becoming the gold standard for NFL organizations. Members of their front office were being considered for bigger things around the league, with Director of Football Operations already assuming power in Oakland. Their coaches - especially Darren Perry and Winston Moss - are locks to be head coaches down the road. Their backup quarterback is going to sign a $60 million contract somewhere this year. Their players are in commercials. Their fans are gobbling up fake stocks at $250 a clip at such an alarming rate that the organization is just going to print more meaningless pieces of paper to appease them.

And yesterday the Giants walked into Lambeau Field and ended their season. The Packers became the fifth straight Super Bowl champion to fail to win a playoff game the following season. This was not a loss. This was not the better team winning on any given Sunday. This was a colossal choke job by a heavy favorite. Nobody on the Packers defense could make a tackle in the open field. The most sure-handed wide receiving corps in football suddenly drew comparisons the group we all see in Chicago on a weekly basis. Their head coach was attempting desperation onside kicks for no reason whatsoever. Their quarterback missed throws he hasn't missed in two years. Easy throws. Rookie throws. Their team performance was so bad Sunday that many of the people I watched the game with were wondering aloud (and seriously) if the Packers were throwing the game. There were several moments throughout the afternoon where I thought it was possible.

Now fifteen wins is nothing. It is meaningless. Ask fans in the Chicagoland area how much they cherish their trip to the NFC Championship Game a year ago. I'll save you the trouble. They don't even remember it. And those that do remember it consider the whole exercise more of a failure than an achievement. Now this team will be doomed to an entire offseason of self-evaluation. Why did this collapse happen? Is their offensive model capable of sustained success in the postseason? How did the defense go from one of the league's best to one of the league's worst? Is Dom Capers headed for the door? Questions no one in Packer Nation ever expected to address will dominate the headlines from this morning until they win their next playoff game.

Here's the truth of the modern NFL: the playoffs and regular season have nothing to do with one another. Yes you need sustained success throughout the regular season to become eligible for the tournament but that is where the chain is broken. Tim Tebow couldn't complete a pass for a month and puts up 300 yards against Pittsburgh. The Patriots defense was the worst in football and made Tebow look like an amateur again. Alex Smith is the biggest liability on the Niners until he does his Joe Montana impression against the Saints. Everything the Packers did yesterday was contrary to everything they did all season long.

You just have to get into the playoffs and take your shot. Doesn't matter what the path: at home or on the road. Doesn't matter what the seed. You just have to get in and take your shot. Because football is, unlike any other sport, often determined by the bounce of the ball. One drop. A Hail Mary at halftime. The Packers proved it yesterday. Winning fifteen games is sometimes easy. It's winning one that's hard.

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  • woo hoo!
    On a football related note -- did Rogers' game fall off after he took that hit when he ran the ball and didn't go out of bounds? He got smacked and his head bounced off the turf pretty badly. It reminded me of last year's NFC Champ game. After Peppers decked him he wasn't the same.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    +1 on that diagnosis, jdawg.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    I am a little ashamed to admit JD, that I jumped up and cheered when that happened.

    portentous prick deserved it.

  • "This was not the better team winning on any given Sunday."

    I have to disagree.

    The Giants were CLEARLY the better team yesterday, especially when you factor in the aggregious blown calls that artificailly kept the game and the score closer than it should have been.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    +1 Albert.

    The Giants dominated GB Period...

    That call against Osi was a disgrace to all officials everywhere and that first fumble WAS a fumble....Giants should have won that challenge. The Refs seemed to be trying to get GB an advantage. Well tough shit...YOU LOSE. Good job Eli...the "good" Eli showed up and the Big Blue Defense was awesome.

    I am so glad GB lost...I'm sick of hearing everyone kiss Rogers ass.

    Until next year Cheese Heads! See ya then.

  • That "blow to the head" call against the Giants on the Packers 3rd and 7 (or something) blew my fucking mind. It was a not-very-hard tackle and they gave them 15 yards and a first down at a critical point. And they still blew it!

  • And it wasn't even a late hit, much less a blow to the head...

  • I agree giants were better, of course. But the packers were abysmal and a lot was unforced. They choked that game away.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    They went 16 games with only 6 lost fumbles.

    Nature abhors a vaccume and decided to re-balance the scales yesterday.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I certainly didn't mean to excuse the Packers performance.
    Abysmal IS the perfect description of their game.

    And once again, even Aaron Rodgers looks human when the opposing defensive line is able to bring the heat.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    As did Brady and the "undefeatable" Patriots not so long ago. Curious that it was the same DL making both look human, eh?

    Hats off to the Giants DL; they always seem to be about 50% better come playoff time.

  • Does this mean the Discount Doublecheck commercials won't be on every fifteen minutes this offseason?

    Because dear lord, I was getting ready to shoot my television.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That brings back memories of MNF with Howard Cosell. A bar in Denver had a promotion each week where the winner of the contest would get a brick and could throw it at the TV screen whenever they wanted. Cosell took a lot of bricks to the head.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I read his autobiography a few years ago...what an odd duck that guy was. And yet, I have the feeling I'd rather listen to him pontificate then some of the meatheads they use now (Millen, Buck, Aikman, Simms, the list could go on and on and on).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Cosell was was a self-aggrandizing prick who HATED the fact that he wasn't beloved. Which one did you read, Posse? He wrote 2. COSELL BY COSELL and I NEVER PLAYED THE GAME. In the 2nd one he's become really bitter and actually turns on a lot of people that he praised in the first one.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    "I Never Played the Game" - yeah, he was pretty brutal, especially towards the rest of the MNF crew.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Pick up a copy of COSELL BY COSELL. You'll wonder if it's the written by the same guy. He's so effusive in his praise of the MNF gang you'll wonder if he's talking about the same people he then slams in the 2nd book. COSELL... was written at the height of his noteriety and his career zenith.
    My 2 "humorous" brothers gave the book to me for Christmas one year, knowing full well that I thought he was blowhard!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'm old enough to and well remember the "Throw a brick at Cosell" craze, Canada.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    100% MBP

    Shady and I were looking for you last night. I had a couple predators for your sneaky ass.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, maing...the whole family has been down for the count with the stomach flu since Thursday. My daughter got it, then I got it, then my wife got it when she came home for the weekend...and still feeling it.
    I should be around this week more.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No flu shots for the Posse?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Getting the flu shots this week, I believe. The wifey HAS to get them; I usually forget until she reminds me.

    This was straight up 24 hours of stomach turmoil.
    It was worse watching my 2-yr old go through it first.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    brutal. sorry to hear that maings. a nice flu shot of packer demoralization MUST have helped the whole fam perk up last night.

  • I don't remember seeing Mathews do that "awesome" hair flip yesterday. Actually I don't remember Mathews doing anything yesterday. For all the BS #54 has had to endure about being overrated, I think it's time to re-assess which NFC North LB gets that title.

    Jdawg I thought the same thing when it happened but I thought Rodgers was off even before that. One of these days he's going to get blown up on a run. It's just a matter of time. Tebow got smoked Saturday by a DL who missed the sack but came back while Tebow was scrambling. He wasn't expecting to get hit from that direction and he got clocked. That's the best thing about Martz going down the road. Seeing Cutler get smoked about half dozen times every game is hard to watch. He's a tough SOB but at some point it has to affect you.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    That was #94. He jacked Tebow up!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    If this were the Military, Mathews would be listed as "Missing In Action".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If it were the military, we'd all benefit from his trip to the barber.
    So there's that too.

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    discount double choke!! Well ST louis done went and got gregg williams as dc so wtf are we waiting on for GM and QB Coach???

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    any one have updated ff playoff standings??

  • BONUS!!!

    "ESPNChiBears Bears and Toub have discussed a new deal, but unclear how close the two sides are."

  • Bada da da daaaa,0,7466911.story

    I'm lovin' it.

  • In reply to Shady:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And in honor of the king today:

    (fuck tht movie was brilliant)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I got these cheeseburgers maing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey it's Isaac Hayes before he was the Chef on South Park. I always think he's going to start singing Shaft.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Is it the "egg mcmuffin" of sexual favors?

    Speaking of commercials that make me want to frag my entertainment center...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh sweet tebus I cannot STAND those fucking, 'this is jaguar at play'.

    I want to marketing dbag who came up with that usless gay shit killed. today.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lexus commercials make me dread the Christmas season.

    Between the goddamn bow on the car and the stupid hipster with Miami Vice facial hair...ugh.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    great show:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not ashamed to admit - I was (am) a huge Miami Vice/Michael Mann fan...Crime Story was great too, even when it got weird.
    I used to have the Jan Hammer soundtrack on cassette. Played the shit out of it on road trips.

    OK, now I gotta go check iTunes.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    this was the best shit on tv... ever:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll grant you, the best moustache.

    And best shot of a bikini-clad butt in an opening montage too.

    And best non-little-people sidekicks...that one too.

    Miami Vice had better cars and music...and guest stars too.

    And a comedian who has opened for Lewis Black for years, John Bowman, played a creepy as hell serial killer on Miami Vice. Beat that, Magnum.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    two words fpr you MBP...

    1. Zeus
    2. Apollo

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Really MB? Magnum P.U.? I'm not sure I could ever say one show was the best. Right now I really like Shameless. Funny as hell and what's not to like about Emmy Rossum?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sho nuff! canada. brilliant show.

    if you can dig up the episode where magnum and higgins get into a prank war you HAVE to watch it. pure genius.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I am a huge Michael Mann fan. He is one of the best directors in Hollywood. There aren't many directors that when you watch a movie you know exactly who did it. Scorcese and Mann come to mind.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Where's Hugh Grant when you need him?

  • I think the Packers fell in love with their new indoor practice field. They certainly played like the warm weather team last night. Maybe they figured, if we blow it, Lambeau dome will come.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Reminds me of a cheer from my niece's favorite movie ( she made me watch it 18,000 times):

    Brrrrr! It's cold in here.
    Must be the Packers in the atmosphere.

  • Season Pass to NFL Audio: $29.95

    Post-Season subscription to NFL Audio: $14.95

    Listening to the Packers' Broadcast Team
    describe yesterday's meltdown: Priceless.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Was Wayne Larivee crying a river? I used to really like him when he did the Bears games on the radio. He could get you really excited. I used to watch the games with the sound off and listen to Wayne. Butkus was crappy on the radio unless someone really got smoked. Then he'd always laugh under his breath. That always cracked me up. Hub always seemed like a mgmt boot licker and a whiner.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I don't think Hub was a mgmt boot licker.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He sure isn't now. He acts like a spurned lover. When I used to listen to the radio broadcasts Hub reminded me of Larry Mayer on the Bears site.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    He was cashiered from the broadcast team because he wouldn't pull punches so he does have an axe to grind.

  • My favorite play of the Packers loss was when Raji couldn't manage to wrap up Bradshaw on a run that should've been a five-yd loss for the Giants and instead the Giants picked up a huge gain...loved it because it came shortly after the Raji Discount Double Check commercial.

    So, now we know what you're working with, Raji, and it ain't much upper body strength, you fat fuck.
    You still have a better TD celebration than your google-eyed QB, fwiw.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • LAMB-BOW FIELD: Where yesterday the Packers played like LAMBS and gift-wrapped the game for the Giants with great, big, BOW on it!

  • I had a wonderful day watching the Packer's get their asses kicked. Watched it at a big, crowded Packer bar with my Bears hat on with a buddy in WI Dells (Lions fan from Ann Arbor there for a conference). Talked to some of them before the game and until half time. After that no one wanted to talk to us. The place was like a morgue. I did graciously do a few free shots when the Pack scored late in the game, after it was over. It was beautiful! A few closet Bears fans came up and acknowledged they were Bears fans. Other than that just got stares. I didn't razz anybody, I'll save that for my friends and some family members in the next few weeks.
    I thought it was cool when I found out Miss America is from my hometown, until I heard she asked the queer from GB to call her. Disgusting.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I was wondering how that went! Awesome - glad you had a good time.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Sounds like Big Fun Cor! Wish I was there.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Internal razzing would suffice. I'd say that was fun.

  • very nice last two sentences btw jeff.

  • Apparently Aaron Rodger's soul is right there with Tebow's soul.
    The logic that says that forty some percent of Americans believe Tim Tebow and his football "luck" is connected to God and that that percentage of Americans believe in God does not follow. Look at the absurd premise...

    While God may be interested in Tebow's soul - I do not think God will factor in a completed forward pass. America - separation of Churdh and State - and separation of football and Church.

    Does the faulty logic include that a majority of NFL fans should probably be attending services instead of getting drunk during "breakfast" at a tailgate.

    Bears Blog should raise six million and take out the advertising deal from NBC Sports during the Super Bowl.

    Thirty seconds during the Super Bowl and an extension of ads during NHL Hockey. and other NBC programs -

    Hopefully - Grimm

    Jack -

    MB - I love the tears and pain in Wisconsin. They deserve even more ridicule. "Every dog has its day"

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    indeed good sir, indeed.

    for your edification… after listening to a tebow interview I got curious and looked up his wonderlic score. 22, three points below average. Should make for riveting TV... I hope you enjoy a bunch of 'coaches teachings' strung together into sentences. Yikes.

    Basically he's a great kid, a great athlete, an obvious humanitarian... and a meathead who's been pandered to his entire football career like the rest of these guys. Shocking I know.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great description of Tebow. On the one hand you can't help but like the guy because he is a good person. On the other hand, you've got this hero worship with religious fervor thrown in. Very Creepy!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dan Marino's score was 15. I find that incredible. Also on 15 were Jim Kelly and Terry Bradshaw.Joe Montana's score seems somewhat elusive.

    1. Ryan Fitzpatrick 48
    2. Alex Smith 40
    3. Eli Manning 39
    4. Matt Stafford 38
    5. Tony Romo 37
    6. Aaron Rodgers 35
    6. Matt Leinart 35
    8. Tom Brady 33
    9. Matt Ryan 32
    10. Matt Schaub 31
    11. Philip Rivers 30
    12. Matt Hasselbeck 29
    12. Marc Bulger 29
    12. Brady Quinn 29
    15. Mark Sanchez 28
    15. Peyton Manning 28
    15. Drew Brees 28
    18. Josh Freeman 27
    18. Joe Flacco 27
    20. Carson Palmer 26
    20. Jay Cutler 26
    20. Kyle Orton 26
    23. Ben Roethlisberger 25
    24. Jason Campbell 23
    25. Brett Favre 22
    25. Tim Tebow 22
    25. Chad Henne 22
    28. Bruce Gradkowski 19
    29. Vince Young 15
    30. Donovan McNabb 14
    30. David Garrard 14

  • brett.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Should be listed under "Narcissus".

  • Ignorance is bliss for a qb standing in the pocket when the D dials up a mad dog blitz.

  • Just saw Tim Tebow in a purple shirt and tie on NBC SportsNetwork...

    There you have it.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    NBC Sports Network. Sure glad the VERSUS moniker has been laid to rest.

  • this one's for sha-dy. (hint, it's about TEs)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "While Martz and the Bears succeeded in turning the tight end spot into a complete nonfactor on offense, others around the NFL took a much different approach to the position. Coincidently, or maybe not, several of those teams qualified for the divisional round of the postseason, where they continued to feature their tight ends and use them as vertical threats down the field."


  • In reply to Shady:

    oh, I'm down my man... just not with the girlythor.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Who else does Jay have to throw to, Khalil Bell?

  • In reply to Shady:

    patience lad. FA and the draft are just around the corner. We get ross and it should be more excitement than we've seen in years... 11 years to be exact.

  • Final Thoughts -

    Packer "gag-age"

    Mike Martz is on the links.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    Yeah, Martz officially retired today. So much for those rumors of him actually coaching again. How ridiculous were those rumors he was going to coach college ball? Haha

  • In reply to Shady:

    shady................he's wanting to go on with BB on the three letter network and work that shit coaching show and talk about the good ol' days...f'er..


  • In reply to gpldan:

    yum cheese for my quesadilla!!!

  • Hope Cutty's the man when ti comes to audibles ...

    Mcmahon A Sight Better Than Most Qbs
    By Don Pierson | October 1, 1985

    How can you tell when a quarterback is hot? Bears` tight end Emery Moorehead was watching his 10-yard touchdown catch from Jim McMahon on television Monday morning and noticed something unusual. "I could hear Jim calling the audible before the strong safety moved up and showed that he was going to blitz," said Moorehead. "So I asked Jim, `How could you call the audible before the guy moved up?` "He said, `I could see it in his eyes.` " McMahon's first two touchdown passes against the Redskins were on audibles he called when he saw blitzes.

  • sup Irish...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    'Sup bro ... workin' hard ?

  • Irish!!!!!!!!!!!!! and that's what you do when you have the opportunity to audible...make decisions at the line of scrimmage...duh!

    "F"ing Martzy would let Cutty go like lambs going to slaughter...ugh#$$!$%#!@$!!!!!

  • McMahon REVELED in changing the call from the sidelines!

  • Irish! I likery! We get to go from blind mans bluff to the seeing eye. Oh yeah.

  • this time really don't have to see any more of the playoffs...

    why? you ask... because the gift that keeps on giving is on all sports channels...watching FuckDodgers and the FudgePeckers IMPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    and btw watching all the pundits with their schlongs in their hands and not know that they been beating that monkey...hahahahahahahah

  • sooo.I'm thinkin Rodgers should have switched to Allstate to protect him from Mayhem... mayhem like the NY Giants?

  • Playoff blues? Rams / Bears '85 the whole game on YT thanbks to Ironworkerjeff ...

  • How many of you guys think Singletary deserves some credit for some of the 49ers success? Harbaugh deserves all the credit for putting this season together but you gotta give samurai credit for putting this team together. Too bad he couldn't coach a game because I love his passion.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    What success Trac? Division champs? It's a bad division at that. I could care less who wins a division, it's all about Lombardis. Harbaugh got there with basically the same team. Now if they were SB champs then maybe you could start asking who was responsible for putting that team together. Harbaugh deserves the credit for Alex Smith though. I didn't see a worse player at his position two years ago and before that. Singletary got very little out of Smith and the rest.

    Samurai was a good run-stopping LB on a defense full of stars, let's leave it at that. My $0.02.

  • That last bit is an excellent summary of Singletary, Irish.

  • Morning gents. Yeah Irish, and just wanted to take a little break from it all.

    Here are a couple interesting pieces fo y'all this monin’:

    1. More on our TE sitch -,0,5516652.story

    2. For tebus sake why?!?!? Please Vikings, take him!!!! -,0,654111.story

    3. Overview of Jason Licht. Here’s the piece that got my attention, “Licht, in fact, has not even had a seat in the Patriots' exclusive draft room.“ huh, ok, I'll take Ross please -,0,3852708.story

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    on the same line of thought:

    Martzy you are the Master of Clusterfuck!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I love this line right here...It was like the day the music died.

  • In reply to lobotobear:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Having a Pass Catching Tight-end is great. The only problem is when the Defense knows that when "Olsen" was out there that it was usually a pass and usually "Olsen" couldn't block.

    Remember those days?!

    Anyhoo, I am all for giving Davis one more year to see if he can truly blossom into the Davis we all saw in CA. Who remembers when we thought this guy was a bust?

    Plus, many writers pointed out that we have the best blocking tandem tight-ends with Davis and Spathe.

    Plus,Plus, do not get me wrong, I do not want to be on dimensional because that will get you no where. Mike Tice was a nfl tight-end for a long time and I am willing to bet, like he has every year, get the best or the best out of , whomever we have.

  • Have to agree. Olsen was a blocking liability. We are a team that need solid blocking, particularly until our O-line improves, and TEs are the main guys to do that. Every time Olsen misses a block either Cutler gets sacked, Forte gets tackled in the backfield, or Forte has to step up and block to protect Cutler. In all three cases, you are putting wear and tear on guys that are rather expensive commodities.

    Plus, the pass catching TE is a fad. I'm not taking anything away from Gronkowski or Finley or any of the other awesome guys making plays this year, but its a fad. Defenses will adjust their blocking schemes to minimize the mismatches and blitzes will become more effective as the the Greg Olsens are exposed.

    Most importantly, tight ends will become pricey and get drafted higher, and as a result, other positions will get cheaper and easier to grab. A good GM will see the value from the TE position elsewhere in the league and try to jump onboard. A great GM will use other team's attention on TE to pick up better players elsewhere on the field. Great GMs don't follow the current trend, they start the next one.

    I predict LBs like Lach, that have the strength to play linebacker rather than safety, but can move around the field well enough to protect against these new TEs (and the mobile QBs like Roders and Newton) will become the next trend. Likewise pass rushers will become even more valuable as teams commit resources to catching passes rather than blocking the pass rush. Let's see the Bears pick up a couple of those young players before everyone realizes what happened. That is how you win the Superbowl.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:


    The main, most important point is that we have other critical gaps to fill before we do anything 'supurfluous' like trying to go out and get an overpriced/overvalued gronk (ain't too many of 'em out there anyways)

    Here are the critical missing pieces that HAVE to be filled in FA and the draft this year:

    1. Oline (1 tackle, and maybe one center/guard) | LT in FA, and interior in the draft
    2. #1WR | in FA
    3. Back up QB | FA
    4. FS | In FA and maybe one in the draft too if value is there
    5. CB | Draft if value is there
    6. Everything else is gravy THIS YEAR (this assumes lach, briggsy and peanut can give us one more year)


    Floyd is a polished receiver who shows the ability to release and burst off the line of scrimmage despite his frame. He is a solid route runner who will consistently make the big catch. He is an excellent athlete who is strong and contributes in the run game with his physicality on the edge. A receiver who is tough across the middle, Floyd will make the tough catch and get up-field. Floyd brings that No. 1 receiver presence to the next level and projects to produce to that standard. Floyd's explosiveness off the line and frame when catching balls make him a presence that is felt by opposing defenses. As a blocker, Floyd will do more than just mirror defenders, as he will come down the line of scrimmage and crack linebackers. He is a red zone threat at any level and his projectability to the next level is a major key to his high draft value.


    Floyd does not have game-breaking speed as a deep threat, and consistency has been somewhat of a concern as a senior. Prior injuries could raise somewhat of a red flag along with various off-field issues

  • At this stage, as long as the guy isn't trying to get all Rae Carruth on it, and put his baby mama in a box - or Hurdman and bring in Acapaulco Gold on a flatbed truck to the metro area - then I say we look past these off-field issues. Oh and no crackin heads at the Denny's either, Pacman style.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I say it is nice if that guy drops to us but I am sure we are getting someone in FA.

    Thus, do we still draft this guy even if we fill the spot up?

  • Floyd is projected to be off the board by 10th pick, by nearly all the mock drafts I'm looking at.

    If Floyd falls to us, the first reaction of a good GM will be to wonder what he doesn't know that everyone else does.

    The 2nd inclination would be to draft him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd love to see Brandon Marshall and Floyd out there, with Bennett in the slot.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I have a dream...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Just thinking about this combo makes my pants tighten up.

  • Braodcast Faux Paux:

    I've always enjoyed Wayne Larivee's work back from when he was the Bears' play-by-play man but after enjoying the Packer Broadcast of Sunday's "El Foldo at Lambeau"on NFL Audio, I have to say, SHAME on you Wayne, as well as your normally honest-about-what-he-sees partner, Larry McCarron. NEITHER of them said "boo" about how lame that Roughing The Passer call was on Green Bay's final scoring drive. I realize that you two, like most of the cheeseheads at the game, were already in mourning but that was a GLARING OMMISSION from a seasoned professional broadcaster.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I didn't listen to that broadcast but I'd give them a pass because they couldn't see the play through the tears. The part that really pisses me off was Matthews being late and doing a helmet-to-helmet from behind on Manning and nothing was called. Manning is 6'4" and was standing straight up. To hit him that high, late, you know the target area was the head.

  • I know most posters don't miss Girly Thor but I would like to point out that our WR's were so shitty that he was double covered by a combo of SLB's, Safeties and oddly enough CB's. Other than that our other pass catching options were awesome. I totally agree about him being a liability blocking. I'm not missing the guy but how stupid was Martz? In that article on ESPN/Chicago Martz is referred to as selfish and stubborn. I'd agree with that. Look at Vernon Davis. Total stud. Under Martz, no production. Once Martz is gone, huge production. I'm so glad the "Genius" is gone.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    +1 on martz canada

  • We keep Dave Toub!!!!!

  • Bears sign special teams coordinator Dave Toub to 2-yr contract, making him 1 of highest-paid ST coaches in NFL

  • hey erik, are you still engaged maing? Or is there still time for all of us to talk you out of it?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Still time to talk me out of it lol We are going to wait till 2013 or 2014.

    Enjoying every minute of it so far though.

  • Awesome!!

  • Colts website announces Head Coach Jim Caldwell has been relieved of his duties.

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