Audibles From the Long Snapper: Tice Remains, GMs Down to Two

Audibles From the Long Snapper: Tice Remains, GMs Down to Two


Mike Tice was denied the ability to interview for the head coaching position of the Oakland Raiders as that organization's newly hired GM Reggie McKenzie has decided to move on to his second round of coach interviews. Here are a pair of tweets from ESPN Chicago's Michael C. Wright:

Tice told me: "I was disappointed I wasn’t able to complete the interview process."

More Tice: "But let me say this: I’m very excited about the opportunity and the new position I have with the Bears."

I never considered Tice a serious contender for the Oakland HC position but I'm certainly glad the he and Lovie Smith can now re-focus their attention on bringing in a coach to install/coordinate the passing game. (This all bodes well for a group of young offensive linemen who'll now continue to hear one voice in their meetings.)


I don't know which would do a better job as Bears GM and quite frankly neither does anyone else. Both have been around the NFL bend and both have earned the right to take an organization's lead. What follows are the basic bios for both men.

Jason Licht: Wikipedia

He played linebacker for the University of Nebraska football team as a freshman in 1989 and offensive guard in 1991 before transferring to Nebraska Wesleyan University, where he played defensive tackle from 1992 to 1993. In 1995, Licht was hired by then-Miami Dolphins scout Tom Heckert as a scouting assistant before serving as the Dolphins' offensive assistant/quality control coach in 1996. He then spent the 1997 season working for the college scouting agency National Football Scouting and the 1998 season in the Carolina Panthers' scouting department. From 1999 through 2000, Licht served as a college scout for the Patriots before being promoted to national scout for the 2001. He then was promoted to assistant director of player personnel in 2002, a position he held for one season before re-joining Heckert, then the Philadelphia Eagles' vice president of player personnel, in 2003 as the Eagles' assistant director of player personnel.[1]

Upon Heckert's promotion to general manager in 2006, Licht was elevated to vice president of player personnel, but was fired by the team in May 2008.[2] In June 2008, Licht was hired by the Arizona Cardinals as a personnel executive.[3] He left the Cardinals and returned to the Patriots as their director of pro personnel in February 2009.

Phil Emery: Kansas City Chiefs Website

A 31-year football veteran, Phil Emery enters his 14th NFL campaign and his third as the Chiefs Director of College Scouting. He previously served in the same capacity for Atlanta from 2004-08 before working as a regional scout for Atlanta leading up to the 2009 draft. Emery was an area scout for Chicago (’98-04).

The Garden City, Michigan native served as the Director of Strength and Conditioning Services and as an Associate Professor at the U.S. Naval Academy from ’91-98. He was responsible for the development, administration and supervision of all strength and conditioning activities for 4,000 Midshipmen. In ’96, his program helped the football team to its first winning season in 15 years.

Emery joined the Naval Academy after serving as the assistant strength and conditioning coach at Tennessee (’87-91). Prior to joining the Volunteers, he served as the defensive line and strength and conditioning coach at Saginaw Valley State (’85-87). He also coached the defensive line at Georgetown College (’84-85) after serving as the offensive line and strength and conditioning coach at Western New Mexico (’82-84). Emery began his coaching career as a graduate assistant at Central Michigan (’81-82) after serving as a student assistant at Wayne State.

Education: Western New Mexico (M.A.T. ’83), Wayne State (B.S. ’81). Family: Wife - Beth; Child - April.


The only game on the NFL's 2012 schedule to be announced thus far is the London game as New England will play at St. Louis on October 28. St. Louis has also signed a deal to play three consecutive home games in London starting next year, fueling speculation of their franchise being top of the list for an eventual move to the land of bad teeth and worse relations with the Irish.

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  • First to screw-up the new thread.

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  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Just testing :)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I wouldn't do it on purpose anywhere but here.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    lol... that would be funny. And no doubt get you banned - no so funny.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I could use a proxy, but it would be pointless. That particular blog probably routes comments to moderation. But even if it doesn't, one of the staff would have to reply to my comment to see the famous "Checking Account," and what are the chances of that happening?

  • Wow. Where did you hear that Jeff?

    I still can't see how the NFL would put a franchise overseas like that.

    Holy crap.. it will cost them millions to just FA come out there and try out lol

  • The Onion.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Thanks Buttsteak.

  • Did you see their blip about the confusion surrounding Joe Paterno's time-of-death? It's the most informative report on the matter I've seen.

  • to just get FA to come out there.

    My bad.

  • Plus you get murdered on the currency conversion...

  • We get to keep Tice. I think that is a good thing, for exactly the reason you state, Jeff. And even more so if we use another first round pick on the offensive line, which would not piss me off in any way so long as its a good one.

  • I read in Peter King's column today that the Rams got incentive money from the league to do the deal. I think it was $15 mil for the 3 years. I don't buy a team is getting relocated to London any time soon. What's the point?

    Great news about Tice. We were totally fucked if he got that job. Too bad for Tice, hooray for us.

    I totally agree with Jeff that we don't really know who would be a better GM. I still wanted Ross. Emery sounds like JA part deux. Great guy, great family man and a real grinder. Hey all that's great but what I want is a guy that works hard, is great at his job, smart as hell and youngish. A lot of guys are grinders because they aren't as smart as the next guy. Oh well. If Licht or Emery do a great job for the Bears I'll be happy as hell.

  • Damn, I always post at the end of threads. Maybe I shouldn't put breaking news at the end. Anyhow, repasting...

    I actually went and did my due diligence on Emery and Ross (not Licht since I didn't consider him a fav), and I expected for Ross to blow Emery out of the water, but I was surprised.

    Check out the recent drafts of both the Chiefs and Giants.

    This is from the last 2-3 yrs.

    Chiefs. (WR) Baldwin (C) Hudson...(S) Eric Berry (WR/KR) McCluster (G) Asamoah

    Giants. (CB) Prince (DE) Piere-Pau (WR) Nicks

    None of us outsiders really know how much either Emery or Ross had to do with those picks, but Emery actually stacks up pretty well in terms of the draft.

    What worries me is the Ruskell/Bears connection and this..."Multiple reports have indicated that Emery is the favorite for the job because of his connection to the Bears and because he doesn’t plan on overhauling the scouting department."


    That's like dropping a Pinto motor into Porsche; it might look good from the outside, but it's still gonna suck balls.

    We need a GM who is going to be given the freedom to fire/hire whatever scouts he chooses.

  • this is what worried me earlier today.

    Is this just a retread of a former bears scout in order to preserve the status quo at lovie's halas hall?

    ...and I imagine that Ruskell will be retained as a 'consultant' to continue on angelo's work woek behind the scenes with a guy he brought into the fold. I really want to keep positive about this, but the facts are continuing to stack up that this is a cleverly covered and marketed retread.

    Fucken a bears. We should have fucking cleaned house completely and totally and started over, that would have been my pref.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm with you - I'm almost favoring Licht just so the stink of Russell/Angelo is cleared from Halas Hall.

    Guilt by association might not be fair to Emery, but fuck, life isn't fair.

  • Pats recent draft picks (Licht)

    (T) Solder (CB) Rowling (HB) Ridley...(CB) McCourty (TE) Gronk. (ILB) Spikes (TE) Hernandez...(S) Chung (T) Vollmer...

    Keep in mind the Pats had a lot of picks.

  • Are the Bears scouts really that bad or was the real problem actually higher up in the food chain? Perhaps Emery sees no reason to overhaul the scouting department because it doesn't really need it. He was one of them for quite some time so I'll assume he knows most of them quite well...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Here's the way I see it Tobi.

    SOMEONE had to tell Jerry, "Hey, Jarron Gilbert from San Jose State, he's solid. So is Juaguins Inglesias from Oaklahoma, Marcus Harrison from Arkansas , Dan Bazuin from Central Michigan,Garrett Wolf from NorthWestern, Michael Okwo from Stanford..."

    I know Jerry wasn't scouting all those games, watching all the tape, and visiting all those schools. His underlings had to do a lot with it. How much, who knows? It becomes the chicken and egg argument, but why even risk it?

    If a woman had breast cancer, and the doctor said, "It can be your left breast, or your right breast, which is cancerous" wouldn't she just respond "well, I don't want to risk it, so just lop both off"? (Morbid example, I know).

    Also, like Lovie, not purging the scouts seems to be a PRE-CONDITION for the job.

    It just makes me very suspicious about how much change Halas Hall really wants.

  • That's how it always works - thing is, if you can spot talent you sit down and watch their tapes before you drsaft them. Angelo doesn't know his arse from his elbow in that respect, so he still deserved the bullet.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    My guess is that scouting departments generally call the shots in the latter rounds of the draft. Bean counters and executives who think they know something because they saw a bowl game and some mock drafts are more likely to meddle in the early rounds, it seems to me.

    If that's correct, then the draft record of a team with a meddling, no-nothing executive and a competent scouting department would show a pattern of early round busts and late round finds.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I was thinking the same thing. Value guys like Johnny Knox, Corey Graham, Kellen Davis, Lance Louis and J'Marcus Webb came from the scouts not the GM.

  • I would think the scouts have a ton of tape on all the guys they like and the appropriate coaches look at all of it. Why wouldn't they? You would think all the plays on a certain guy wouldn't take that long to study. Once each coach has compiled a list of their faves in order, the OC, DC, Lovie and GM work on it. Who knows?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    That's the scary part Canada.

    The draft is a mixture of:

    1) GM
    2) Scouts
    3) Coaches

    What the exact ratio is for the Bears, no one quite knows. For instance, was Benson really a Lovie pick? Will Tice be given some clout like Martz with Enderle/LeFevour? Will the new GM have the balls or the power to tell Lovie "No."?

    I would love to see some pie chart, though that's not gonna happen.

    But if 2/3rds of the drafting process remains in place (same coaches, same scouts), how much of an improvement can we honestly expect?

  • Bingo

  • Gotta agree Butch. Who knows? At least with Martz gone we shouldn't have any more ManofMoolah signings. Hopefully no more Molester signings.

    Did you see the article where Tim Spencer (RB coach) was talking about upgrading the backups? I was happy with Bell. I was happy with Barber until we found out his brain doesn't always work. Nice to see the coach is still looking to upgrade.

    I'm curious if Enderle is any good. I thought he was very accurate last year in preseason. Of course the scary part was he was a statue. With our OL, not a good thing.

    If the new GM can at least get the 1st rounders correct it will be a major improvement.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yeah, I read that Canada.

    Unga's name even started creeping up after the season, which to me spells doom for Barber.

    Barber is perfect for the Bears cuz he can catch, pass block, and get those short yds which Forte can't, but he's always injured, fumbles and chokes.

    Here's to hoping no one else gambles on Hillis and we can get him in FA for cheap.

  • Barber isn't always injured and he is not known for fumbling, that's not fair. 2009, 15 games played, fumbled twice. 2010 - 13 games and no fumbles. 2011 - 11 games - 1 fumble .. .and he was stripped of the ball. He's still not big enough, neither is Unga - we need a banger.

  • How about Izzy?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Why doesn't Lovie do that? Use a Pep or an Izzy ....or an 8-ball Adams? 4th and goal. Bang! Stop that!

  • A few random Bears related notes...

    Mario Williams PFW ponders his future with the Texans. Obviously, the Texans want to keep Williams. However, their D was top 5 without him. Moreover, they're 20 mil over the cap and promised to reward Arian Foster.

    WR competition in FA So, anyone have $120 mil lying around? That's what Fitz got last year, and what diva WRs in FA will want this year. PFW thinks that the Jags might be heavy spenders for a WR in FA.

    Tora! Tora! Toradol! Outside the Lines is investigating the possible effects of a popular painkiller drug named "Toradol" (which include "gastrointestinal bleeding" - yuck). Urlacher who takes it was interviewed and responded, "First of all we love football," Urlacher said. "We want to be on the field as much as we can be. If we can be out there, it may be stupid, it may be dumb, call me dumb and stupid then because I want to be on the football field."

    'Lach also says some interesting stuff about concussions.,0,5660078.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&

  • remember 1998 when i had that compound fracture of my wrist? doctors gave me prescriptions for vicodin, percocets, and toradol. the toradol was the least abused by me and my friends. it just didn't have the same fun factor. but, then again, it wasn't injected into my ass and it certainly didn't make me feel like superman.

  • Great news about Tice. The best news. If we get Licht then it couldn't have turned out any better. Pumped to see what kind of a roster we come up with this year. This might be the one.

  • If these two guys are the finalists, I chose Emery. Can't knock the Patriots history but they don't play our brand of football, nor will it fly in Chicago. The Chiefs victory of the Packers this year probably secured the job for Emery. Heck, if you think about it, he's one of us already.

  • I forgot about Unga. I wouldn't mind seeing him getting a chance in preseason. Just checked his stats, 6' and 237. My concern about Hillis were the rumors of him missing games last season when he wasn't that injured. Of course it was about money.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    He got his girlfriend preggers and was spotted playing hoops in Oregon when he said he was working out for the Bears.

    I think the kid has no head for the pro game.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You mean we shouldn't evaluate him based on the clever nicknames we come up with?

    Pshaw,GPL, pshaw.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I don't like Hillis either. I doubt we'll go after another fullback unless he's some kind of special teams miracle worker.
    Clutts was pretty solid last year. I like him alot.

  • Yeah Irish, I never thought he was a serious candidate but I am glad he can go to work scouring the draft for new blood.

  • I vote for the guy who spent some formative years at Canoe U.

  • In reply to Viva:

    I'm guessing that would be the old man's pick, GSH, if he were still alive.

  • Props to Big Bird for his Sun Times article today sticking up for Kyle Williams. They guy has been getting non-stop death threats since his 2nd bobble that cost the Niners the game. His dad, at the Sox, has tried to protect him.

    All Kyle has done has step in front of the press, and say "it's on me. Nobody but me, blame me." When he could Barber and hide from the press.

    If the Niners cut him, I say we pick him up, because the kid is class in a world of shit eaters.

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • smh...

    DavidHaughabout 17 hours agoEmery would be safe, solid unexciting choice like so many others that have been made by McCaskeys. Good or bad move? Get hired first.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sometimes Haugh gets "Jag Off-itis", a viral strain seen in its most extreme form in Jay Mariotti.

  • Do we have a QB coach?

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • Would it make sense to keep our scouts for this years draft? Then clean house after the draft to prepare for the 2013 draft?

  • I don't mind if our new GM keeps some of the scouts.


    If during the interviewing process, the question arose.

    "Are you inclined to bring in new scouts or keep the ones we have?"

    and Ross was eliminated because he rather bring in his own guys, well, that's BS.

  • Yes. I think. Maybe. Who knows?

    The new GM will have done most of his homework on the draft with the Pats or Chiefs. He'll come in with his own assessments and those of his organisation. He should be able to compare that with what the Bears are saying and get a good idea who to trust and who to ignore or replace.

  • GPL, I haven't heard the doom and gloom Ruskell talk lately. Can the entire blog give you a big fat I told you so on that one?

  • Yes. Yes you can.

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Although I get partial credit if Emery allows Ruskell to stay in his current position, just because Ruskell initially gave Emery his break in Seattle.

    If Ruskell stays and none of the scouts turn over, then this is not the change I voted for...

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • Okay. You guys have been hammering the Scouts and GM's. I think I can kinda sum it up and some of you said it.

    Bill Belicheck, great coach and really good at evaluating players. Everyone knows he makes the final decision on draft day and FA's. That is why Licht is not getting that much credit for drafting.

    Thus, it comes down to whoever is in charge on draft day and for us that was Angelo. He has to get all of the blame because he had the final say so and that is why he was getting paid. To draft good players. Like Jeff said, its a crapshoot and even Bill has messed up. Bill still seems to work around that or still try to have success next year. I never really saw that from Angelo.

  • I'm not sure comparing anyone to Bellichek is a good idea. It's like saying your cat looks like Richard Nixon.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    1952 VP to Eisenhower Nixon, 1960 Losing to JFK Nixon, or 1968 Defeating Hubert Humphrey Nixon?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Mewing "I am not a crook" Nixon, rolling on the carpet with Kissenger Nixon, or lapping-up the milk lobby money Nixon?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    And Bowling in Lebowski Nixon.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    I was looking for the appropriate video and found this instead. Lots of line-crossing going on, and a Bowling for Columbine soundtrack, but cuter than kittens:

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Nixon kittens named Checkers.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What standard do you hold your gm at?

    Mine are higher. You get paid millions. Do your job.

  • well said erik, well said.

  • Erik has turned into Mark Wahlberg.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    All I'm saying is ... if I'd been at Pearl Harbor in 1941 .... things would have gone down differently .... Jerry would have gotten his ...

    (Eh, Mark ...)

    .... Nazi fucks .... I woulda been like PAM! POW! Take that Fritz! ..


  • For those guys dissatisfied with their performance between the sheets or wanting an extra b-12 like boost, I recommend a shot of Toradol right up the pee hole. I was bashing my lady's dome against the head board so hard for like an hour last night. She liked it so much she kept denying concussion like symptoms and asking for smelling salts every time I asked her if she was OK.

  • In reply to Crown:

    dude. where have you been in my life. Hilarious.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Crown, you complete me.

  • He had me at 'pee hole' .....

  • In reply to Crown:

    Literally an LOL out of me Crown. Ah yes.

  • Twittering death threats. Welcome to 2012.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    at least those can't be tracked to the poster.... wait...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    People are idiots.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Not all of them are named Terrell Suggs either.
    That guy's a fucking caricature.
    "Ball So Hard University"...stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I would, though, allow him the honor of playing on the opposite side of pep any day. the guy is an animal.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But he's a such a damn herp-a-derp...I find his little "T-sizzle" sayings to just be obnoxiously stupid.
    He is one heckuva pass rusher.

  • dabearsblog @ErikGrogan Williams had a nice year. Spencer and Louis were 50/50 players and bad in pass blocking. Don't underestimate power of new GM.

    some of you want to take a what in rd1? A wr? Really?

    Here's my formula...

    OL (tackle) in rd 1, an interior guy with our first #3.

    In rd 2 and with our second 3: FS and a Corner

    ... pay for the #1 and #2 WR (cheap), DL, and another OL (inside or outside... best value available) in FA. then we're set - IF our LBs can do one more year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Rather go LB or DE in round 1, but I agree on the WR...there are many, many proven WR's available in FA this year. It's a position with a high "bust" ratio in the first round - no thanks.

    Need a corner and a SS...
    OL - I also think we've got some options in FA.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Really? Hmmm... I just think if we can land a Mwilliams or cavril type in FA that would be currency better spent. Again, known entity. I think we can get by with what we have at LB is everyone stays healthy. I know, big IF.

    I know you and I differ on the FS v. SS call, but if we get a guy who can pass AND run cover (ala our namesake) I will be very pleased with that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Didn't Williams play as a 4-3 DE his rookie year?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yes. He was the draft pick that everyone could not believe.

    Now, they look like genius's.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Louis was injured, Jeff, I wish people would let that dog lie. Fit and good to go, Louis is an animal. We need a MLB in the first, not just for the future, but we have nobody to go in and backup Brian. At least if we had a talented rookie in place then the season might not be lost if Lac goes down, which is exactly what will happen if he gets injured early in the season.

    FA is the place to get ready-to-go professional receivers. It's not like there's a shortage of them this year. We should push the boat out for Mario Williams too.

  • pea-nut

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great article.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I smile when I read stuff like this : "Ballcarriers are taught the "three points of pressure" in Pop Warner for a reason. Folding three fingers over the nose of the ball (one point), tucking the outside of the ball against the forearm (two points) and pressing the ball against the ribcage (three points) is the most tried and true coaching method for ball security."

    Yup, good ball-carrying advice for Pop Warner kids.

    I watched a 16 minute reel of His runs over the weekend, as you do. Probably the most notable thing about Walter's style was the way he held the ball out away from his body to help him balance as he changed direction. But yeah, good advice for kids.

  • Big Bird tweets that Bears have spent a lot of time at Senior Bowl talking to this guy:

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