Weekend Show with Nathan Whitaker (co-author of Tebow's 'Through My Eyes') and the Reverend's Hysterical Sam Hurd Rant

Weekend Show with Nathan Whitaker (co-author of Tebow's 'Through My Eyes') and the Reverend's Hysterical Sam Hurd Rant

On this week's show I speak with Nathan Whitaker, co-author of Tim Tebow's Through My Eyes, about the unnecessarily controversial Broncos quarterback and his time with Jerry Angelo in Tampa Bay. Also the Reverend rants on Sam Hurd. I urge you to listen to the rant. It may be the Rev's finest 3 minutes.

Da Picks Contest Playoffs

The bracket is pictured above. Same rules this week as last week. Pick three games against the spread and make your two tiebreaker selections. Closest wins on the tiebreakers (no Price is Right rules).

The Lines This Week

FALCONS -12 Jags
Cowboys -7 BUCS
GIANTS -6.5 Redskins
Packers -13.5 CHIEFS
Saints -6.5 VIKINGS
BEARS -3.5 Seahawks
TEXANS -6 Panthers
Titans -7 COLTS
Bengals -6.5 RAMS
Lions -1 RAIDERS
Patriots -6.5 BRONCOS
EAGLES -3 Jets
CARDINALS -6.5 Browns
Ravens -2.5 CHARGERS
DOLPHINS -2.5 Bills

The Tiebreakers

Tiebreaker #1, The Ex-Cowboy: How many total yards will Marion Barber and Roy Williams combine for against the Seahawks?

Tiebreaker #2, The Opponent: How many yards will Marshawn Lynch average per carry?

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  • FIRST beyouches!

  • I'm an NFL player; but I want to be a rapper!

  • Sam Hurd's new Jersey:

  • I just realized there is a cussword on that so NSFW, I can't go back and edit unfortunately...

  • Blogfather, even though most of us point fingers in a different direction, I am 100% sure that everyone posting on this blog is with you when you say the last week(or three) has been extremely tough watching the Bears tank.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Oh, and that Nick Nolte shit was hilarious!

  • So that's some SERIOUS amounts of coke and weed Hurd wanted to move each WEEK...did some rough math in my head...that;s enough for a quarter of weed and a few snoots for EVERY fan in a SOLDOUT Soldier fiels EVERY week...damn.

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    Maybe he was going to hook up the fans and leave a party bag under each seat. God knows those fans need some life in them ....

  • It's Sam Hurds $450,000 dollar crack party!

  • Hell, who needs bobble-heads..."Ladies and gentleman, you will find a quarter o'weed and a few bumps laid out at your seats...courtesy of Sam Hurd!"

  • Thanks Rev..... that was absolutely hilarious!
    Guess maybe Sam forgot the mention the interview with the Feds the day before he signed. Musta had to cover a purchase with that money.

  • Jeff, God does not have a stake in football. He has a stake in man. When you see Tebow give God Glory, it's because he wants to live his life in a manner that honors God through his faith and he is not ashamed of Jesus. I have found out that the Lord builds a believers faith through victory and defeat. God doesn't concern himself with wins and losses on the football field. He works in the life of a believer in a way that builds ones faith through trials and sifting. Tebow has been mocked, ridiculed and slandered because of his faith. That is what most believers find themselves faced with more often than not but the prize of salvation is worth every bit of it. Favor is a manifestation of the Lords blessing but that is such a small part of how He works. Most believers will tell you that their faith has grown the most through disappointments and setbacks. Contrary to popular belief, being a Christian is a very humbling experience. God has a way of getting peoples attention when they travel through the valley of shadows. He gives grace to the humble and he blesses whom he chooses.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Personally I think it's ridiculous the grief Tebow has gotten over his beliefs. I waited and watched his NFL progress before making a judgement. He's a winner with sick stats. Period. As for his beliefs, they'll only keep him grounded, and far away from the kind of position Sam Hurd finds himself in at the moment - and the position his family also find themselves in. Personally - from what I've seen - heaven and hell both exist right here on Earth. But whatever Tebow is doing, good luck to him - it seems to be working. Is there a man among us who would refuse him a Bears' jersey right now?

  • As one of the people who dislikes Tebow (the image) as well as Tebow (the non-NFL prototype QB) and is neutral on Tebow (the kid trying to play football), let me field this whole "grief Tebow has gotten over his beliefs."

    IF Tebow were simply a God-fearing Christian who was public about his religion and it ended there, he'd be Kurt Warner (without the stats).

    But he's not. He wrote a book. He appeared in a Super Bowl halftime commercial trumpeting his beliefs. He is the WILLING poster boy for people who believe that God micro-manages a person's ability to succeed. And his public demonstrations of his faith--whether through his Bible references on his no-glare strips, in his Tebowing, or his TRADING on his humility (i.e., it's like shouting at the top of one's lungs, "I'M THE MOST HUMBLE GUY IN THE WORLD!")--polarize people further.

    If he didn't have the winning streak--if he had lost most of these games (and let's face it, given how the games have shaken out, maybe he IS getting help from upstairs... at ESPN, paying off refs and key players--I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU, MARION BARBER!), everyone would shut the hell up about his "talent" and "faith" and "leadership" and how they're all intertwined.

    In other words, the thing that's most annoying about Tebow is not that he's a Christian, but that people point to his "successes" and attribute them to his Christianity.

    And no, I would not want him in Navy & Orange. He'd be a TE or H-back, and the Bears have plenty of guys who fit those roles.

    Here's some more difference for you. Forte, Tait, Singletary, Covert... all those guys are devout Christians. None of those guys' careers was defined by religion. Yet they each found a way to play WITHOUT rubbing people the wrong way. Sure, the argument goes, Tebow is putting his religion first and everything else is second, and that's the way it should be! But the vast majority of people don't share Tebow's beliefs or practices--they want FOOTBALL from NFL players, and they get their religion from church/synagogue/masjid.

    And is TEBOW a "winner"? Sure, the same way Kyle Orton was. We'll see if he's still a "winner" in 5 years or so.

  • so was God
    making tim the favorite
    over alllllll the other christians
    who participate in the NFL
    and have been on the losing end
    of Tebow's comebacks
    get God out of sports
    God has no favorites
    He is one with all
    man just has fucked uped ideas
    that somehow their "thing"
    is "more" special
    somebody get me something to drink
    to get this taste
    out of my mouth

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I don't believe Tebow has walked through the valley of the shadow of death yet, Trac. He's lead a very charmed life so far by the looks of it, the kind of privileged bubble existence that football players experience in the States. When he has done so - perhaps after losing a child, for example - and still has faith afterwards ... then I'll be impressed. His football acumen is pretty good though. Good luck to him, I hope to see him face the Bears again in the Superbowl. This February.

  • That's debatable Irish. Remember that spiritual truths are not the same as human understanding. Tebow Mom was told to abort him by her doctors because of her illness when she was pregnant. She was told to abort him or she would die and that he'd be born dead. Tebow is the reward of his parents faith. He's thier blessing. Anyhows, that's how I see it.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    maybe we should start calling you the reverend trac?

    5 hail marry’s and a who’s your father for me?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was just commenting on Jeffs comments via the picks show MB. No worries mate.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    It wasn't meant at all as a slight trac. I was just trying to be funny... and I think it would be a cool nickname for you.

    Like I've said many many times Trac, I am very happy for you that you have beliefs and convictions that help you in your life. I think it's really wonderful... seriously. Whatever helps people get by/ahead in this brutally cruel and tough world I am in favor of plus 1000. I don't and won't subscribe to your beliefs (or anyone else' for that matter), but that's not important outside of my own head.

    And as for tebow... I think he's probably a great kid who does lots of great thing for a lot of people in need. I also think he has helped spark something in his team... real or imagined, that has spurned them on to coalesce as a team and start winning. He should be commended for his leadership and attitude.

    He's a terrible NFL QB though… not even as good as hanie, but his coaches and management are doing everything they can to build a system around him that they know will help him be successful. Basically the exact opposite of what the bears coaches/management has done with our late season situation.

    Anyway, I digress… reverend.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Reverend... or Brother Trac....?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    7-1 win/loss ratio, 11 TD passes and 2 INTs. I want terrible QBs like that backing up Cutty !

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Didn't know that about Tebow Trac. He's an interesting guy.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I am not a big fan
    of modern medecine
    how did said doctor know
    that what he said was gospel
    doctors have big ideas
    about there sense of self

    these type of stories
    are for the myth makers
    there is nothing "special" about
    Tim Tebow's birth
    it is just another bodily experience
    fused with media hype

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Exactly hunt, Man at his core, is a Liar. But I have good news for you, God can not lie. It is impossible for him to do so. He is the truth, the way and the life and no man comes to the father but through his Son Jesus.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    But can God make a taco so hot he can't eat it?
    -- Bart Simpson

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Well I guess I was blessed twice for losing my faith, so it's all good! Iseem to remember reading that He loves us all just the same.
    God, not Tebow, that is .....

  • He loved Jacob and Esau he hated.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    In the real world, children are raped and beaten and starved to death every day. I once saw an interview of an FBI agent who, as part of his job as a profiler, had to listen to audio tapes of a serial killer beating a little boy to death in a sub-basement dungeon. The boy kept screaming, "I'm sorry."

    Many fundamentalist Christians will tell you that these children, if they weren't saved, will burn in hell for all eternity. But despite what Whitaker says, Tebow and his fans believe that God intervenes in football games. I'm jaded enough to simply ridicule that belief, but my father, a devout Catholic, gets very upset. He says these people are taking the Lord's name in vain in the most egregious way possible.

    I don't laugh at Tebow because of his faith, but because of the joke he makes of it. Imagine a God who can't be bothered to squash a cockroach in a sub-basement, but takes action to prevent Marion Barber from running out the clock in a football game.

    Watch the Tebow Mic'd clip @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grM2sb7VYSs
    Tebow asks the Lord to put a "wall of protection" around himself and his teammates. He thanks the Lord for field goals and touchdowns. And just before Barber rushes out of bounds, He prays, "Dear Jesus, I need you. Please come through for me."

    At the presser after the game, Tebow says:
    "I might have thanked the Lord when [Barber] did that. I said, Oh, the Lord has something to do with it now."

    That's worthy of ridicule, isn't it? I'm not slandering Christianity when I laugh at that, am I? I think Tebow is a very good man who does a lot to help kids in the Philippines and elsewhere. He's a very good football player with a lot of heart and determination. But he makes a mockery of his faith every time he opens his mouth to pray on a football game.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I don't care what any man says, just what God says. It's convenient to blame God for all of mans evil and wickedness but to do that you would have to slander who God really or what some religious idiot does in the name of God. I am more disgusted when those kind of people than any other group. Jesus railed against the hail mary crowd than any other group Crunch. Hence, they murdered him for it. Because of my ignorance, I have misrepresented Christianity at times but never in that kind of a way.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    So you are saying that Tebow is slandering God by giving God credit for affecting plays on the football field?
    Because football is a zero sum game, either God is going to listen to Tebow's prayers for a favorable outcome or to the special teams guy on the Bears who is praying for the football to land in his hands. Or, more rationally, the God of scripture either has no hand whatsoever in what is happening on an NFL field or if he does, it is way beyond the conception of some jock that wants to go to the playoffs. The asking of intercession on the football field just seems so incredibly narcissistic that it defies words.

    I think the whole thing is ridiculous. I'm glad Tebow is a good man who does good works outside of his football life. It's his, and in fairness to him - many, many other athletes, misconception that a God who can't be bothered to listen to the prayers of a child being abused is waiting for Tim to give him a call on the sidelines that really is disconcerting.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm not saying that at all Brownie. I just think some people see what they want to see.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Maybe you see creation and mankind through a worldview chaos theory, I don't know? I see creation as God bringing order to chaos through his love for mankind and mans rejection of that love. To say God turns his back on poor helpless children while blaming mans wickedness on God is baffling, really.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I didn't say that either.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    And God does have a nifty get-out clause for all those terrible things that happen. Free will.

  • It's man that always invokes the get out clause Irish, not my Lord.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    "Amen" to that.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    There is evil tucked neatly in ever corner of the globe. I know, because I've seen it first hand. I have a very strong faith in Christ and was brought up Catholic but made my own decisions on my faith when I got older and traveled to the dark shit holes of the world when I served in the military.

    I for won do not like anyone who prays for something that means nothing to the Lord.

    The first part of your post Crunch gave me a chill...but I assure you everyone....everyone in the end gets exactly what they deserve.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    Pol Pot passed away peacefully in his own bed in 1998. George W Bush still walks the Earth.

    And God is definitely not a Bear fan ....

  • Maybe the new Chicago Mules will get some help from the dark side. I mean come on, where's the parity?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    oh come now buttsteak... why so coy. Let's just be done with it and call us the...

    "Chicago people who swallow condoms of narcotics and try to get across the boarder to fill noses and pipes with the silly stuff to make people happy and/or dangerous."

    ...yeah, maybe a bit long. Let's just go with yours.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah but your name needs more lines. I like it.


  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    what is the prize of salvation
    why isn't oneness with God enough
    why a prize
    prizes are conceptual
    and separation from God
    is also conceptual
    it's your mind and the idea that
    you are anything other than
    one with God that keep one from His presence
    My problem with Tim bowing
    supposedly a touchdown is a prize
    why not bow after every breath
    then I will be impressed

    Watchman Nee was my greatest example
    of Christian Faith
    if he wanted a toothbrush
    in communist china
    he would buy 10 and give 9 away before
    he used his new one
    Tim is selling faith
    Marion Barber believes
    is his faith any less than Tim's
    today's christianity is reward based
    bullshit concepts
    remember there is NOTHING
    to get
    God and you already are one
    you just have to get yourself out of the way

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Prize of salvation = Insurmountable Value that no amount of money in the world can purchase.
    How do you know what Love is if you've never experienced it? How do you know the emotion in a heart is really love at all? Is a sick man that's never been healthy even capable of knowing that he's sick?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    love is your nature
    there is no "individual" or "you"
    when you and god are one
    that is it
    there is no you and god
    just complete oneness
    all those statements followe by a ? mark
    conceptual knowledge
    god exists before mind and body
    you have to die to these "ideas"

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Amen, brother. I thought all u Bears fans were godless.

  • I needed a laugh this morning:
    Enjoy -

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    that is taking it
    to the next level
    legendary sh=t

  • Disagree with the new Rae Carruth comment.
    That fuck murdered a pregnant woman to try and avoid paying child support.

    Sam is an awful sonofabitch but Rae Carruth is one of the worst human beings I've ever heard of.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    One might even go so far as to say Hurd's crime is victimless, which I'd be more apt to say if it was just the ganja - but the white dust makes it indefensible.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I bet he had a loooooooong list of NFL clients. Kinda bummbed about the blow, but a loooot of nfl dudes smoke the weedy weed.

    Maybe he was just the league's unofficial, official guy. Like, 'don't go to scary hoods or to gange thugs for your fix, just go to sam. He's one of us and he's safe.'

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I wouldn't doubt if Hurd ends up spending more jail time that Carruth or the other shooter. That's "justice" I guess.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Gotta love the idiocy of mandatory sentencing for drugs and yet a perp can get parole for second-degree murder in less time than it takes to get a PhD.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    In case you haven't seen it, check this out MBP.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    MBP, this one is better, by far.

  • So much for "Vetting" and/or "Due Diligence"...


  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    This episode may be what sends Angelo out the door, not his failure to get us a Super Bowl ring.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Worrd is Angelo is likely to retire and the FEAR is that Tim Ruskell is heir apparent. Ruskell's track record in Seattle is less than inspiring.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    oh tebus christo no!

    But in all honesty, do you really think it could get much worse than angelo?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes, I do.

    "People told me 'Smile, things could be worse'. So, I smiled and, sure enough, things got worse." - Pvt. Rodriguez in THE D.I., 1958.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    studied it a bit already
    it is not without fault
    Maybe we should pick the top
    positional needs
    and then do our own draft research
    as a group
    on each position
    sharing our reasons and ideas
    in a constructive manner
    and then mail a copy
    of our most worthy choices
    to halas hall
    care of DBB

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    i like that idea hunti. you're in charge of resurfacing the idea around draft time.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i will keep it on ice
    i say we start to assess the
    positional needs right after
    come up with our "needs or want" list
    then pick a position a week or however long it takes to review the talent
    might be a good time

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al.......... this is what I expressed on the previous thread...did any one vet this guy.....

    Hey "GLITCHY" what you looking for your retirement years?

    I hope that this is the nail in the coffin for "glitchy"

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Lovie Smith said, "No issues. I'm in shock over it. Never saw it coming.''

    Well with all the powder in the air.. could you?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Haha I just heard Angelo mention glitches on the evening news.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Man, I still can't get over the fact that sam hurd was a 'real' drug dealer. Not the guy you get a dime bag from every 6 months for a big party... but a real, scarface/mexican cartel-style trafficker.

    Fucken a man, why?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do you think when he scored a TD, he yelled "say hello to my little friend!"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that would be funny. Did he score a TD?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't even pretend to be smart enough to be able to explain how a man with a shiny, new $5 MILLION DOLLAR contract decides big time drug-dealing is a better way to go.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    5 gets you a taste, an open door into the social circles of people who have 100. And people don't want to leave that party.

    How many times must we see the story played out, that's my only question.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    ehhhh... I don't know if this was elitist upward mobility. I think sam had that in his past and knew the ropes... he just got introed to a whole new clientele with lots o money and lots o time on their hands. Perfect market for fun products.

    Sam’s just a good bidnizman. A fucking dumbass too, but a god bidnizman.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    graduate of northern here
    it was no nuns convent
    in 1973
    I got my "drug" education in dekalb
    it was all over the athletic department then
    he did not start this
    just now
    sorry to say

    i have no proof
    but from past experience
    I am not suprised

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    football was a hobby

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    In this one he gets introduced as being the owner of the Chicago Bears.


  • REV.....LOVE THE RANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! paint the lines at Solider Field...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Sam "Scarface" Hurd at his arraignment:

  • I was contemplating Lance Louis' decline over the past several games and I've realized - the guy is dinged up.
    I think he was injured, probably his hamstring or quads, during his chase of Curry on what should have been a pick six in the Oakland game. He has fallen off precipitously since that moment.
    Is he showing up on the Bears injury report?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I agree, and if you watch the replay, when he bolts down field and tackles the guy saving the TD, he rolls over and you can see he is not just winded, he's in tremendous pain. That play injured him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think the same of hester. It just seems like he's not interested in giving all the effort needed to break one for the last... 5 games?

    I keep thinking... why can't he outrun the 2-3 guys that end up catching him from behind. Yeah, sometimes he's being patient and looking for holes ahead of him, but other times it's like wft dude?

    I won't even mention the fair catches with 10-15 yards of room, running out of bounds at the first hint of pressure, and being tackled by the punter.

    ..oh, never mind, I guess I just did.

    this entire team is VERY banged up. We are paying for last year in spades. Should have given it 100% in that last reg season packers game huh lovie? fml.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    forte played a whole season
    banged up
    the bears suck it up
    show up
    give 100%
    of what their body can dish out
    and that should
    be enough
    I am proud of that type of
    no whining
    suck it up
    play hurt
    and hope for good results

  • In reply to gpldan:

    if this is true
    2 key players
    go down
    keeping points off the board
    how strange is this season
    of discontent

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yup, his and Cutler's runs were certainly two times I wish they'd been less enthusiastic. Man, Louis could move.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'd say the same is true of Hester. Probably a lot of guys. Again, Mr. Angelo hasn't afforded us the roster whereby we have to play injured men instead of the next guy up because there's such a drop-off.

  • For the non-Tebowists in the DBB crowd, I say this:

    I salute you Christopher. You were a true Lion. Your views were often conflated or wrong on many political issues, but not social ones. You dwarfed peons like Buckley and your essays on book shall live on past you. To tell you to RIP would be insulting, as no fiber of you existed to rest.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Atheist.. okay.

    Am I the only one who hates this fucker?

    I remember seeing him on the Fox News bullshit shows spewing pro-war propaganda... Drunk British guy, right?

    Am I mistaken?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Hitchens is a fascinating, flawed character. I think he managed to piss everyone off, left and right. A reformed Trotskyist, who ended up campaigning for Bush in 2004, who penned an entire book about how Thomas Jefferson sailed the US Navy into the barbary coast just to kick ass, who hated the whole nihilism of Bin Laden's world view, he attacked EVERYBODY.

    But he was so damn insightful and witty, it was fascinating to read him. He called Kissenger a war criminal on par with Pol Pot. His book scathing Clinton, called "no one left to lie to." was brilliant.

    He got waterboarded just to see if it was torture. His writings are fascinating, even if you think 50% of it is shit, which - if you are on any side at all - you will, just because he attacks every side about everything.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, I don't know shit about the guy beyond the fact that he was a fucking puppet during the Iraq War.

    I think he was on Maher's show a few times (who I also dislike)... and he seemed like a drunken shit spewer.

    Sounds like he is.

    And sounds like we have more in common than I'd care to admit.

    Either way.. attacking everyone doesn't, to me, make for a respectable person. I attack everybody, and I suck.

    I will continue on both Hitchen's and my legacy, and attack this fucker for being a douche. A dead douche. And if that doesn't make me an ignorant asshole, something I've already said already has.

    Fuck him and his pro-Iraq War stance. Based on absolutely zero informational intelligence - solely on knee jerk emotional reactions to my first impressions made 8 years ago. I don't care to hide it... I hate this fucker.

    And I will continue on adding zero football related value to this blog, because I'm a piece of shit.

    I think I should go put my patch on.


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    *slow clap*

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Some funny stuff in there Willie. I wouldn't call you a piece of shit. Your more like an ass douche.

  • In reply to TheFifth:


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Funny stuff. If you were a woman, Hitchens would say you must be ugly or Jewish.

    Congratulations on getting you Super Bowl ring back, btw.

    (sorry if that's already posted, been busy)

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    war sucks
    it is only
    rage against
    the self

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Word Willie. Post of the week my friend!

  • I couldn't have done it without a severe addiction to nicotine.

    I'd like to thank Tebow, Sam Hurd, Jerry Angelo, and the Green Bay Packers for inspiration.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    You formed an opinion by what you saw TV, ergo wrong

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Well... I formed an opinion from watching non-scripted words come out of his mouth regarding his opinion on specific topics. This was not based on things said about him by some other "journalist".

    When you form an opinion regarding the Bears after watching a Bears game on TV... would you think the opinion is "wrong" due to the fact that the medium through which it was delivered was the television?

    If I had heard him say ridiculous shit on the radio, would that have helped?

    The guy, from what I saw of him speaking regarding the Iraq War, was (in my opinion) an ass douche. If you disagree, I understand... I don't agree with your overall opinion that all opinions formed from information gathered via TV are wrong... You can feel free to continue that opinion, and I don't expect to change it via the internet (a place where formed opinions are surely just as "wrong" as TV, by the way).

    Regardless, I still love you.

    If you can tell... the patch does tremendous things for my sanity, though really kills my passion.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Just found this for you on CN ...

    ... and she sounds single .....


  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Nope. Once you're described as a 'bon-viveur' in your obituary, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head there. A right-wing drunk that had to move to NY to get people to listen to him. Having said that, we're not all perfect anyway.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    bill maher
    salutes you

  • Sorry for hijacking the thread gents...

    Shady… you out there?

    Funny fucking story for you (although others with a PS may chuckle a bit).

    So my buddy and I are playing 1:1 last night (was going to invite you, but didn’t want to bug you) and I found something out that made me crack the fuck up. So before our game the other night, I had gone into the chat setting and changed my voice to sound really slow and deep… like in true lies when arnie is ‘interviewing’ his wife behind the one-way glass.

    Anyway, so I think that’s on last night and I start talking all weird to make the devil voice sound even more pronounced because I’m imagining what it sounds like in that voice in my head … my buddy interrupts me and goes… “dude, what the fuck is wrong with you, are you high? Why are you talking like a freak?”

    I just started busting up, because I was doing the same thing in our game and must have sounded like a total freak. HAHAHahahahah. Fucking settings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ahh yes, the voice changer. Funny whether you're 4 or 34.

  • Ouch: http://larrybrownsports.com/football/steve-smith-tim-tebow-make-sons-flag-football-team/104930

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yep...MB...the truth hurts sometimes.......

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    tim needs to give credit
    to the play of MB
    he should pass the credit around
    not hog it all
    ;like some high temple preist

  • Man, must be nice to be a young QB in the NFL: http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/sanchez_hits_end_zone_twice_ODpuXFx74QcW5ji2Ju8hMI

  • speaking of being a dumb ass...


    Sam's (the irony isn't lost on you guys I would guess) still hasn't learned: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1hKtYOx_c

    It kills your brain cells son! JUMP!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We need a guy on the blog named Huggy.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Huggy Bear:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    crown a better one:


  • In reply to Crown:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That could work.

  • A distration from a 3 game losing streak, fed drug busts on special teamers and Tebow's divinity:

    Doc Ellis and his LSD No-hitter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vUhSYLRw14

  • In reply to Crown:

    "and I went over to first base and said "touchdown"...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  • In reply to Crown:

    That's one hell of a story.
    Another good one about Doc is the game he decided to try and hit everyone in the Reds line-up. In a pre-game interview he said "We gonna get down. We gonna do the do. I'm gonna hit these motherfuckers." To start the game, he hit Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, and Dan Driessen. He tried to hit Tony Perez, but walked him. Then he threw two pitches at Johnny Bench's head before he was pulled from the game.

  • In reply to Crown:

    lol! Thanks Crown!

  • In reply to Crown:

    that's the kind of reporting
    that could make me
    turn my t.v. back on
    for anything
    other than
    a good game

  • In reply to Crown:

    Brilliant Crown, I'd never heard about this. Robin Williams tribute to Doc Ellis : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO281JqXQdc

  • from the propaganda site:

    Why is Devin Hester fair-catching so many punts? I think he needs to take more chances. The Bears desperately need him to give them the best starting field position they can get.

    I think the reason Devin Hester called a couple of fair catches last Sunday in Denver on punts he probably could have returned had to do with what had occurred the week before. The Bears lost valuable field position against the Chiefs when Hester failed to catch a couple punts and they rolled deeper in Bears territory. Here’s what special teams coordinator Dave Toub said Thursday about Hester perhaps calling too many fair catches versus the Broncos: “We didn’t want him to leave the balls on the ground anymore, so we told him to get everything at least fair caught, and we did that. Now we just have to take it to the next step where he decides not to fair catch and returns it when he’s supposed to.”

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    a simple..."no shit"

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Fuck Larry Meyer

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yep..GP...what a suck hole...

    I would piss my pants from laughing if LM was on "Hurd's Hit list...lol!!

    sorry I'm a sick bastard but that would finish this season just right (sarcastically).....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    You crack me up lobo.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    How about Jerry Angelo? And Hurd has photos of him sniffing junk off an underage crack-whore's thrupennies ...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I think Hester's hurtin'. There was a quick shot of the trainers checking him over on the sideline last week.

  • RIP Mr. Hitchens. Now my top three contemporary writers are dead: Hitchens, Raymond Carver and David Foster Wallace. Now, all I have is the nerdy and materialistic Jonathon Franzen.

    Jeff or anyone else, any suggestions based on these guys?

  • In reply to Crown:

    You should read some Chabon if you havent already. The guy is amazing.

  • He looks to be up my alley. Thanks for the suggestion Sac.

  • In reply to Crown:

    You don't want him up your alley. I think he's gay Crown.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    I know, that was really bad.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Not terribly controversial, but if there's a finer writer than John Irving in the English language (currently living) I'd like to know about them please.

  • hey fuck you Roy:


    and btw...that photo of you on the page say's it all...you muffmidget.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I read somewhere that Roy and Hurd were close friends. In my book, that means Roy knew at least to some extent what was going down.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    what does that mean Trac? Would you expect him to turn in his buddy?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It means he ain't no innocent flower child MB.

  • In reply to lobotobear:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    i prefer it
    this way

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Mr. Cash
    says it
    this way

  • Does anybody have any love for this weeks picks. Who's wants to help me handicap this weeks stone cold locks?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I was also interested in the Ravens and Lions, but those teams both have a slightly higher penchant for stupid mistakes.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    FALCONS -12 Jags is still listed.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I think the cardinals are a very good team. I don't know how the Bears are three and a half point favourites. The Bengals can surely cover their spread - and if Bradford's out hsould be a lock. Dare I say Green Bay to cover?

  • Bengals -6.5 over Rams
    Saints -6.5 over Vikings
    Texans -6 over Panthers

    Tiebreaker 1: 125 yds combined for Barber and Williams
    Tiebreaker 2: 2.4 yds average for Lynch

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I like em all except the Texans pick.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I stayed away from the Texans when they played the Falcons and they easily won. You can't underestimate what a good backup QB can do with TWO of the best running backs in the league.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Houston have the best defense in the league with a preety good QB in Yates and a great running game. Should contain Newton.in their house.

  • They just said on the radio Hurd thought that they couldn't track his Mexican cell phone. OMG. That is so stupid it is sad.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:


  • Bears just cut Hurd....farewell, we barely knew thee!

  • Mexican cell phone? Oh fuck, this guy was running drugs for the cartel. He's even dumber than I thought... and the cartels are so much further up our ass than we know. Both are scary.

  • Damn it... I now have to reevaluate everything. I actually found something about the fudge that I actually like.

    If true, this is hilarious: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Did-the-Packers-untying-Ndamukong-Suh-8217-s-sh?urn=nfl-wp13954

  • brilliant in it's self-inflicted simplicity: "A guy is walking past an insane asylum when he hears the residents inside chanting, "Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen!" Curious, he finds a hole in the wall and looks in. Immediately he's poked in the eye, then everyone inside starts chanting, "Fourteen! Fourteen! Fourteen!"

    Here's something for you basketball types... ahhh memories: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK1J-3FBXv0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I chuckled out loud MB, thanks.

  • ...15! 15! 15!

  • http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/16/the-reads-you-need-could-nfl-nice-guy-hurd-be-drug-kingpin/?hpt=hp_c1

    and uhhhh ooh.... shit... http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/15/source-hurd-provided-drugs-to-other-nfl-players/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Anyone else wonder why Homeland Security is involved in this and not the FBI or DEA? Is drug dealing a terrorist threat? Is Hurd part of Al -Qaida or a sleeper cell? Is Hurd working for another Gov't agency and this is all part of supplying cash for the Fast and Furious operation?

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Sam has asked me to address one point and I am going to address that with you,” Hurd’s attorney, Brett Greenfield, told reporters today after a court hearing. “With respect to the rumors that Sam has been supplying drugs to other members of the NFL - out of respect to the NFL, out of respect to his teammates, and out of respect to other players – he 100 percent denies that allegation. It is patently and totally false.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Once his lawyer came out straight off the bat to say that Hurd never sold to NFL players, you know that's exactly what he was doing. Hypothetically, allegedly etc.

    I hijacked this account, I do not represent, I am not .. .Bolt Van Der Huge.

    (Thanx maing!)

    Eh, you can't be in here if I'm hijacking your account,uh, Bolt ....


  • The "good" news keeps pouring out of halas Hall.

    Hester is nursing a tweaked ankle but "could" play Sunday.

    Melton dinged as well.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    ANd the hits just keep commin'. I know I shouldn't be askin this but.."what else can go wrong?" Oh wait: they're playing at Soldier field this week...the land of the electrical taped down sod. Couldn't even use duct tape, that'd work.

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    Um .... Omelette could start at right tackle ... that could happen. Then we'd have the biggest fuckwit-pairing in the NFL as our bookends.

  • Everyone might acknowledge that on paper at least, one team is better than another. But they still have to play the game. The same applies to Sam Hurd. It's hard to believe he wasn't up to something no good but I'm not going to take the Fed's word for it. I'll wait to hear his side before I throw him on the scumbag trash heap...

  • Packers

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I hope you are wrong about the 4.1 SC Dave

  • In reply to SC Dave:



  • One town that won't let me down...........It's my kind of town.

    Ahhh Sam, now you've left your mates in a real lurch. The first line(pun intended) in Martz's playbook is... See Sam for inspiration. What will Caleb do if the play calling actually seems to make sense? And what of that list of NFL names, Sam? Does it include Bears execs or just coaches and players? Now, every one repeat, It's my kind of town.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    At least people in Chicago can afford cocaine ....

  • When James Jones' moonshine operation gets tumbled we'll see who's laughing then.

  • Now that's a response that answers a whole lot of questions. My kind of town.........

  • PFT made a funny on their "Week 15 Injury Report". Chicago: Cutty thumb. Forte:knee...Hester:ankle...Hurd:5 to 10 Kilos.
    Hh well, Only in Chicago. Plus we had a couple inches of "flurries" this morn.

  • http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-bears-hurd-due-for-bond-hearing-on-drug-charges-20111216,0,3517473.story

    Whoa. Two thoughts.

    Only $100K bail? Erm ..... "Baby, pay the man and I'll catch you on the flip side. Laters!"

    The Raiders haven't picked him up off waivers yet?

  • I'm thinking there's a lot less to this Hurd thing than most people think and a $100K bond (which realy means someone has to come up with $10K) kind of reinforces that. It seems like it's more of an opportunity for the media to get content. Here's a story od interest from a sports journalist (and also a professor of Journalism at DePaul) who is one of my favorites:


  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Correction: actually in the Federal system, $100K is $100K, not $10K....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Dog the bounty hunter wrasslin' Hurd to the ground would make excellent tv.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wonder what Dog does the 40 in...

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grM2sb7VYSs

    Tebow Mic'd up last week. Thomas dropped a TD pass in this game for those still wanting to play what-if scenarios.

    It's funny how he chats to Urlacher, Briggs and Pep like he's bumping into his neighbours after church on Sunday.

  • I tried watching it but I just couldn't get past half way. I didn't want to relive that loss. I'll say one thing - I wish I had 1/10 of his seemingly indefatigable spirit and confidence. It must incredibly comforting to have a belief system that gives you that...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Just skip to about the 5:10 mark. Watch the hold by Ryan Clady on Julius Peppers that MB mentioned the other day. Clady hooks him around the neck. Just one of several Denver holds that the refs miraculously failed to notice.

    It happens on the Denver TD pass - 2nd & 3 @ Chi 10 with about 2:10 left in the game.

  • You know what would be great? If you could somehow sort threads by timeline. That way you could see the most recent post replies. It won't happen but a forum app like vbulletin would serve our needs much better than this format....

  • All I know is that I'm sick of hearing about Tebow....it's almost as annoying as the Kim Kardasian crap...no real talent ..just in the right spot at the right time.

  • Crown - I agree with Irish's recommendation of Irving. However, I would preface that by saying that I think his early stuff is brilliant; his more recent novels, not so much.

    Neal Stephenson - Snow Crash, Cryptonomicon, The Diamond Age...

    And I think Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series is the only fantasy series I've ever enjoyed.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wow, checking out Stephenson on Wiki, I can't believe I haven't come across this guy. The non-fiction one on operating systems looks interesting. I thought Linux would take off too. I remember they floated red hat - I think it was - and telling everyone I knew who had money to buy shares. They went up 700% and then flopped right back down again. I'll have to check those novels out though, if I can find them in a second-hand book store. Books are expensive here (so I haven't read Irving's last three....)

    This has been a really great thread!

  • Yeah, they over-printed his latest series, The Baroque Trilogy, so it's all over the place here for a steep discount, but I highly, highly recommend the three I mentioned. He wrote an eco-thriller, Zodiac, that was OK but not my favorite. The "Command Line" essay is really, really good. You should be able to find that online, I think at his website.
    To me, the Holy Trinity of cyberpunk are the ones I mentioned. I enjoyed them better than anything by Philip K. Dick or Gibson.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • A packer fan making fun of chicago for players in trouble with the law… BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAH!!!

    That’s a jolly good one. Walden one think that they’d look inward for that kind of thing? One doesn’t need to look underwood many stones to see that this is much more jolly confortable a subject for the packers. One would Havner think that some jolly introspection and shutting of one’s mouth would be a better policy in this jolly case. Sad really.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    raises wine glass in toasting motion

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Turn in your shopping cart and quit your day job. SCTV needs you.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There's real "Sweetness" to these words, but we've always Hurd that timing is everything. And the timing here just seems so apropos.

  • I'm pretty sure James Lofton got in some trouble a while back for sexual assault. And I think they had a tight end too a few years back with some sex related legal issues...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Mark Chumura was the sex with a minor scandal. He was doin his kids babysitter. Went to her prom or something, then badda boom badda bing. I must say, I kinda think thats normal Green Bay behavior.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Favre sure hasn't been a choir boy for the last twenty years either.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Mmm, Farrrrrrve. Like a big 'ol chunk of Stinking Bishop.

  • Okay, I'll bite on the Tebow thing as well.

    So I don't believe the same thing as Tebow does, particularly about a certain gentleman who lived a couple of thousand years ago. For that reason, I think I can be unbiased to a certain extent.

    I believe in one, all-powerful, all-knowing G-d. This is the G-d of the Jewish people that did all the miracles you read about in the Bible (creating the world, splitting the red sea, giving the ten commandments with much fanfare, etc etc). And this G-d that I believe in and try my best to please as I live my life, is capable of deciding the outcome of any football game he wants to. But does he really care about something as trivial as a football game?

    The answer is yes. Unlike you or me, G-d is capable of simultaneously tracking the outcome of every sporting event in the world at the same time without even being distracted. The metaphorical equivalent of seeing something out of the corner of G-d's eye is to know it in more detail than anything we will ever understand. On a grander scale, I believe G-d is simulatenously aware of the motion of every proton, neutron and electron in every atom in every structure in the entire universe. And I believe that in a certain way, he controls that motion.

    What you are really saying when you say that you can't imagine that G-d care's about the outcome of a football game is that you can't imagine the result is important to him. And you are right to an extent. He has much bigger plans. He has a grand plan for every single one of those electrons and the worlds they comprise.

    But unlike you or I, G-d doesn't get distracted from his plans by following the football game. He can influence each step, each block, each caught pass, each breath the players take as they battle up and down the field. And with each influence, He silently (or not so silently) moves the world forward toward his grand plan. A plan bigger than the game, than the league, than the whole world. Every game, millions of little things work together to shape the world to come.

    And one of the things that makes you realize just how powerful G-d is... he can do all of this and make it seem like a completely natural occurence to those observing. All of these decisions obey the laws of nature, the laws of physics, even the logic of our minds. But they aren't chance. There is a driving force behind them all. And that is my G-d.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    So, you do or don't believe in free will?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Free will v determinism was exactly what I was thinking of whilst reading NBIT's post. Play with this. Why would an omnipotent being set everything in motion in this known universe of ours, with every single action in that universe already pre-determined? Where's the fun in that? That would make God a programmer, instead of the guy that meta-programmed The Sims - but gave it an awesome artificial intelligence that could conceivably result in one Sim-bot developing a doomsday device that completely wipes out Sim-world .... or a Sim-utopia arose where all Sim-bots loved one another and lived together in virtual harmony, and all the other hippy omnipotent beings went "Yes!".

    From what I recall of my astral psychonautic adventures as a younger man, it has to be said that extrapolating the outcomes of football games is more useful than the Free Will v Deterministic universe argument which can never be won/resolved.

    Is there a God? I don't know.

    But there's a good chance CIN, TEN, NYG, ARI, NO and HOU all win on Sunday and I hope to Jaysus they do.

  • If God controls the universe down to the subatomic level, why didn't he stop gpldan from posting a picture of Brett Farve's penis?

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Oh, I get it now - sensitive dependence on initial conditions. Brett Farve's penis is analogous to the butterfly wing in Brazil that breeds tornadoes in Texas. Only in this case, the butterfly contributes to the consummation of God's great plan.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    But you'd think God would have left Brett Farve's penis out of the plan. I mean, what kind of plan is it, if it hinges on Brett Farve's penis being posted on Da Bears Blog?

    Or am I assuming too much here? Does Gods plan depend on Brett Farve's penis? It seems such an insignificant thing. But so does the difference between a successful and unsuccessful 59 yd field goal. A fraction of an inch difference in the angle of Matt Prater's foot, and the Bears win, and Gods great plan falls to pieces.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    But don't let me put words in your mouth, NewBear. Maybe you didn't suggest that the outcome of the Bears-Bronco's game is an integral part of God's great plan.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I'm Al baby!


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Could have gone with the Scarface quote there too.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    All of God's creations are beautiful ... in His eyes. Even Brett's mushroom cock.

  • I like to think that we are simply nature's creation - nature being the Godhead of which everything else is its subset - observing itself. So Brett's penis is really our penis, and conversely, we're all very good quarterbacks.

  • I just say the any sport is 99%luck and 1% the person...hitting..tossing..rolling..throwing..kicking..schmoozing or any other act you can think of with the ball..puck..birdie...etc..etc...etc.

  • Marion Barber mocks God:


    Video description by uploader:
    "Marion Barber mocks God and Tim Tebow after scoring the Bears first Touchdown. God must not have liked it much as Barber later would have a brain-cramp and a fumble to cost his team the game and God the glory. From hero to zero in one afternoon. Be not deceived ... God is not mocked. Nor apparantly is Tebow."

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • It's over Dave. The Bucs? Really? What were you thinking man? This one was over before it started.


  • Bears

    Tiebreaker1: 69 yds

    Tiebreaker2: 3.4 ypc

  • Bengals

    tiebreaker 1: 124 yards
    tiebreaker 2: 3.1 ypc

  • BUF +2.5
    CHI -3.5
    KC +13.5

  • MBIII+RW: 186 yards
    ML: 3.9 ypc

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