Bears Must Be Careful of Reading Too Much into McCown's Success

Bears Must Be Careful of Reading Too Much into McCown's Success

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The two worst things that happened to the Chicago Bears in 2011 were (1) Jay Cutler breaking his thumb on a tackle attempt against the Detroit Lions and (2) Caleb Hanie performing admirably in the NFC title game against the Green Bay Packers. Cutler's injury is self-explanatory but it was Hanie's duping of the Bears organization, media and fans that caused this once promising 2011 campaign to fade into the oblivion of unprofessional quarterback play. It got sad bad with Hanie that last night at bars across the Chicagoland area could be heard the phrase, "You know, this McCown ain't so bad."

That is my fear. Yes Josh McCown was a significant improvement over the disaster that was Caleb Hanie but a majority of his success last night came when the Green Bay Packers had already packed in their regular season. One can not ignore that McCown was more confident with the ball, more poised in the pocket, more accurate down the field than Hanie but the Bears can not stake their backup quarterback position for 2012 on comparisons to Caleb Hanie. There are several commenters to this site who could have improved upon the work of Mr. Hanie.

McCown will get another start in Minnesota next week. It will be a lifeless game in a lifeless environment but one player will have something to play for: McCown. The former high school football coach (from about a month ago) will be playing for his invitation to Bourbonnais come the summer. A terrific performance will not (or at least should not) prohibit Jerry Angelo from inquiring about Jason Campbell or attempting to bring Kyle or Rex back to town as Jay Cutler's primary backup. But a solid effort from McCown should relieve some of the pressure on Angelo to fill that vacancy and allow him to focus on the positions of primary importance: WR, OL, DE and now possibly corner.

I am rooting for McCown to succeed. I like his accuracy to the outside and I love his mobility. I also sensed that McCown played with an intensity last night Caleb Hanie lacked over his four ugly outings. But we have been fooled by the success of a QB opposing defenses had no tape on before. And one can never know how successful the signal caller can be until he plays meaningful competition over a substantial period of time. The Vikings will have tape on McCown next week, sure. But the game is meaningless. I just hope the Bears realize that.

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  • Jeff, If I wins, can I trade the Picks prizes for Lou's pizza bones? Just sayin.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    What's the prize for the winner, anyway? Anything for the runner-up?

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    set of steak knives

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm just glad I didn't end up in third place, then.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Spalding, you'll have nothing and like it!

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    rat farts!

  • Jeff, I agree with your post completely. If we end up with McCown as a backup next year I know it could be worse. No way the Sex Cannon comes back here. The Bears would have to offer significantly more money than the next best offer before he would subject himself to the abuse. As awful as he played for the Bears I was actually embarrassed by the treatment from the fans. Both Sexy Rexy and Neckbeard will try to get starting gigs. Neckbeard might even be able to land one. Don't get wrong, I'd be OK with either of them as backups, just don't think it will happen.

    Also, Jay was hurt in the San Diego game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    +10000 or so on the embarrassment thing. And the saddest part is it STILL has not gone away.

  • • I fucking hate the packers and that smug laughing ahole rodgers. Yeah, nice job whipping up on our 3rd string QB, 5th string RB and corner, our 3rd string SS, and a bunhc of 2nd and 3rd string olinemen… tough night huh assholes. If I see him in my community in his gay golf pants, I’ll have thoughts of galulli

    • Man, did injuries do a number on us this year… there were some dudes out there last night I didn’t even know were on our team (armando fucking allen!?!?) Payback for last year’s insane injury luck was an even bigger bitch than I thought it would be (way to take advantage of it last year lovie and crew)

    • McCown did a damn decent job. Cople thoughts to myself last night: 1) He can be a decent damn back up if he has another year in the tank. Then, oh shit… 2) what if he keeps us from getting a real ‘franchise’ back up and he turns out to be rex hanie II? Fuck. (I wrote the previous piece before Jeff posted this new thread. So I’m with you jeff and canada… we should do everything in our power to give neckeard the back up job… the kind that wil make him a very comfortable clipboard holder for years and years to come. Kinda like being born into money… you don’t have to do shit to get it, but it’s damn nice the check arrives every month. Alas, I think he may challenge whatsisface for the #1 spot in lake arrowhead.

    • Why in god’s name was bowman out there? I know timmy J had some tough games, but that dude sucks a lot more. Period.

    • How are you feeling about our safeties again jeff? Don’t know about you, but we need a real fucking franchise FS and finally be done with this ridiculous musical chairs at that postion… and while we all look for the right chair these below average safeties just keep giving up game-changing TDs. We need a RD 2 guy if you ask me (yes, I still want a center/guard in rd 1). Speaking of needs…

    • I am still on the: RD 1) inside olinemen, RD2) DB (either a real FS or sd corner… whichever is best value at our spot), Rd 3) MLB/DB, Rd 3) Dend (unless we want to go for Mario, then MLB/DB… whichever we didn’t take in the pick before), Rd 4) olinemen, Rd 5) Whatever… RB? WR? Best value from here on out is fine.

    • Fuck I hate watching the packers be this suck-sessful. If we didn’t have all our injuries we’d have beaten those fuckwits last night. Their D SUCKS. Can’t wait to see those motherfuckers lose badly to a saints or pats team. I don’t even think they get to the bowl. I think they get a atlanta-like shocker in the early rounds.

    • After watching that beatthefuck up packer oline, and watching them handle our $100M end and his friends all night… who on this blog is willing to stand up and say Angelo is a good enough GM to continue managing the chicago bears depth? Not I. Ted thompson knows how to build depth… so tell me why we don’t deserve a guy like that building this squad? I still don’t understand.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +100 on all thought MB.....I will not be rooting for those piss yellow jersey and shits green pants..FUCK YOU... YOU INBRED'S!!!!!go fuck a cow...oh yah It's your MOM or Sister...egh? what's the difference it's the same in cheesefuckville...

    either gold & red our gold black!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    actually, the pack didn't beat up on our 5th string rb. but our 5th string rb sure did make the cheese look silly.

    as far as bowman goes, i hate him. he's the new nate vasher. has a real good rookie year and makes us think we've finally found a corner to play opposite peanut, then bOom! he sucks.

    and i know you hate our safeties, but i still like conte. definitely try to bring in some competition next year, but i'd be ok seeing what he can do with this learning year under his belt. he's no mike brown (shit, mike brown wasn't even mike brown) but i think he'll do a good job.

  • In reply to evantonio:

    Nate Vasher went to the Pro Bowl. His injury gave him rock jock, and he was done.

    Bowman is more like Corey Graham. A never-was we kept pinning hopes on.

    We handed James Jones a big fat Xmas present with a bright bowman on top.

  • he had 6 INTs in '09. That's a good number for pinning hopes on.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB I like your enthusiasm but would argue we could have beaten the Fudgies last night without the injuries. Granted we would have scored more points but without any pressure on Rodgers, we aren't going to beat them in a track meet. If Rodgers stays in the game they would have scored 2 more TD's. Do you really think we could put up 53 pts? I don't.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    we would have canada. The D would still be playing for something (big), they wouldn't have been demoralized and overworked in the last 4 games, and we would have come in blazing hot.

    the filthy hoard would have shit thier pants and shit the bed. I promise you we would have paid them back for last year. Alas, twas not to be this year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm willing to guarantee we wound see an O-lineman drafted in the first 4 rounds next year. WR's are the easiest position to fill on the roster and if we don't draft one in the 3rd round, I'll be disappointed. We should be able to find a solid WR when it comes time for our pick in the middle of the 3rd round. I'd like to see a corner or safety picked in the first, and a stud LB in the 2nd. Man, I can't believe I'm talking draft already.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    coulda fooled jerry angelo on that one trac. He couldn't find a #1 WR at a NY nightclub.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    Seriously, Bowman? How difficult is it to smack a guy at the goal line, step into the route and knock the ball down. Get a brain you worthless POS. I hope we never see you disgrace the Bears uniform again.

  • that picture haunts my dreams btw. Jesus. I'd love to know his IQ, it can't be a big number.... it just can't.

  • We better start retooling our D and soon. If the D doesn't get younger and better the Bears will be chasing their tail in the near future. This seasons over and my gut instinct's tell me that we need a much more dynamic offense that we had this year when Cutty and Forte were healthy if our D doesn't get younger soon.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    it's funny. jerry spends more than half of each draft on defense, yet here we are talking about how we've got to really start looking at drafting guys to replace our aging vets.

    if only leon joe had been the real deal...

  • Taking emotion out of the equation (very hard to do), you have to give Rodgers his due. He sliced us up with no running game. None. Their worst receiver is either Driver or Cobb. They would be at the top of our list or 1a. Finley is basically a big WR and would be 1 or 1a for us. None of this is going to change for a while. Our DL did nothing last night to pressure Rodgers. Really a disappointing effort from the DL.

    MB we desperately need a new CB (at least one), a new safety (at least one, Conte has some upside, Steltz is a competent backup), a new SLB (despite what Jeff writes, Roach is just a guy), a DE to pair with Pep, a 3 technique that shows up every game, 2 WR's (so Bennett and Knox can come off the bench and torch secondaries) and a LT (we've got 3 RT's in Carimi, Williams and Webb). I think we've got all the inside OL we need.

    All of those needs are for starters. After that we need backups for Briggs and #54, a pass catching TE and better depth on the roster for ST's. Other than that we're all set. I have no idea why you think JA sucks!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    So, we pretty much need everything

  • Out of 22 starters I think we're good at 10-11 (QB, RB, OG, OG, C, RT, DE (one side only), WLB, MLB, CB (one side only) and possibly FS). We've got 2 good returners when healthy, 2 good long snappers, a good kicker and punter, a good backup RB, a good FB and a good blocking TE (Spaeth). Have no idea how the ST's will pan out.

    I don't know how anyone can see us matched up against the Fudgies and say JA has done a good job. They have so much more talent on their roster it's mind boggling. Oh well.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    hey now. we have stephen paea. did you know he set an nfl combine record with 49 reps of 225 lbs?

    you say good blocking tight end in spaeth, and all i can see is the first play in this highlight video (you know what's coming?):

  • MB, Shady, I just got MW3 for chreeestmas. I was good at MW2 and now for some reason i suck balls at MW3. Let's get it on. I KEEEL YOU

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    BOO YAH!!

    Can't wait to fuck you up. Got the 70" LED for christmas, should be in by the weekend. It's fucking OWWWNNN!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Size matters. Shit.

  • yes sir. Had my eye on it for almost a year. Get you some of that gp. You go ahead and take these bananas.... go on, take em.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Kids these days and their newfangled contraptions. They'll never know the thrill of vibration football:

  • same as every year $

  • I will say that McCown has an actual resume as a NFL player, and he did play an entire game as opposed to Hanie's 1 quarter. I liked what I saw from him last night, and I don't have an issue with bringing him to camp but I think there are much better options out there.

  • In reply to ALinWI:

    Totally agree Al. The problem is will this staff be able to figure out who would be the best backup.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Very true and will the be willing to pay extra for the best backup. It is fair to point out that this isn't the most attractive situation for another quarterback. Jay Cutler is established here for the next several years. He doesn't really have a lot of injury history so anyone who comes here has to basically accept a career as a backup. Someone like Campbell, or Orton is going to have a chance to go somewhere and either compete for a starting job or backup a less established qb. So if you really want a guy like that it's going to take a fair amount of cash.

  • Ala Biggs.

    Here is a look at the non-divisional opponents:

    2012 Home opponents
    St. Louis

    2012 Road opponents
    San Francisco

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    If injuries don't do us in, I'll predict a 13-3 season next year. It could happen.

  • A glimpse into Christmas future?

    One thing I think we sometimes forget as knee jerk fans, is the fact that Jerry has pull in the Bears organization. Cutting Jerra loose would mean that the front office would have to waste valuable time building trust with whoever replaces Jerra. I think at this point, it would be a HUGE mistake getting rid of Jerry.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Jerry's given the OK to make a "big move" because his job is on the line again.

    This is why I think he hoarded that 20 mil this year, and this is why I remain somewhat optimistic about signing Mario Williams or even moving up in the draft (for once) with our extra 3rd rounder.

    This season was lost as soon as Knox slipped, but at least now we can truly see how shallow our team is on multiple levels, and hold a decent position in the draft.

    One last hurrah before the Mayan end for Angelo and gang.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    this isn't directed towards you specifically trac, you just give me the opty to say it...

    ...there is ALWAYS an easy excuse/justification for mortgaging away your future for the ease and pain-free maintenance of the status quo. Like keeping the girlfriend you're not really in love with because you don't want to put all the effort and work into finding a new one... and the familiar sex and her lasagna on tuesday nights ain't bad. Besides, you never know what's out there... psychos, freaks, girls worse than this one that you're not into and don't ever see marrying. It's just easier to skate by and have that pussy at your bedside instead of having to go out there and fight for something really worthwhile and great. Yeah, fuck it, it's probably best we settle anyway. We don't really deserve anything more right? It's not like we're the pats, or the steelers, or even the packers huh? We're just the Chicago bears...

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Fire his pathetic fucking ass before he's allowed to dismantle another fucking draft... the most stacked draft we've had in recent memory. You really think that buffoon will do great things with that extra 3rd? You really do? That makes one of us.

    Fire him now and bring in someone new. You want to blow cap space... blow it on getting fucking ozzie newsome in this bitch. Blow your wad on a fucking GM that knows what he's doing really well, and doesn't have money as his only weapon in his quiver of stupidity. Shit, go out and get a fucking smoking thai money to pick in this draft. It would do better, I can promise you… statistically, he couldn’t average out any worse… honestly.

    If getting Mario Williams is what we’re going to grade fucking angelo on, then I’m walking out. Here’s the equation for you:

    Hey marrio, we’ll give you $(more than any other team is offering)
    Hey Texans, we have an extra 3rd and nick fucking roach

    There. There’s the brilliant formula jerry will use. Fuck me. Can we PLEASE get a fucking competent GM in this motherfucker to start building this team NOW. Those of you who keep thinking that if the starts will just align, maybe jerry’s kids will take us to the bowl… well, look at last year and look at this year… you’re fucking dreaming. 2010 was as lucky as any football team I’ve ever seen has been and we couldn’t pull it out. It’s time to say fuck the status quo, let’s turn the sheets and shoot for the start.

    MB30SD fucking out.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    stars fucking stars!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't think Angelo should be graded on getting Mario Williams, that's for sure.

    Even a chimp can make that decision.

    But the McCheapsters aren't gonna fire Angelo on a two year deal, using the injury bug as an out.

    That's just the way it is. Bears fans have to live with Angelo and his dud drafts in 2012, short of occupying Halas Hall.

    Death, Taxes, and Jerry Angelo.

  • agree $, sadly resigned to have to agree

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think Jerra is going to try and bring Norv Turner on board after your pals in S.D. can him MB. Martz has to go. Period. If Jerry can get Norv to come to Chicago, would you grade him on that?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    loser.... with a terrible last name.

    Yes, I would trac.... F

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    No fucking Turdner in Chicago. Or in the fucking state for that matter.

  • Does anyone think that the owners are the reason Jerry has to do this lame " spend all we got " every year we miss the playoffs? Damn, are we the Redskins?

  • In reply to Artoo:



    Another one to spoil you day MB.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    yep. I wasn't expecting anything more Murph.

    Bah humbug.

  • MB, in your earlier post you brought up the Pats as successful drafting. Eliminating the last 2 drafts because teams are always patient for a couple years.
    2009 6 picks in first two remains on the roster
    2008 4 picks in first three rounds remains on the roster
    2007 1 picks in first two rounds...... None remain on the roster
    2006 3 picks in first three rounds........none remains on roster.

    14 picks and only two of them still with the team.
    Lets hope the football gods start smiling on jerra's picks.......
    At least you know even the Pats can crap the bed too.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    yet they still win murph. Is it only brady? You'll site manning I suppose, but it's hard to field three sb-caliber phases.... just ask the filthy hourd.

    I don't know man, i just know we can do better.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It would be interesting to see just how many teams have done better than Angelo. I suspect not too many.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    dave. please. don't make me sad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "To be honest with you, I'm actually shocked that Angelo still has a job in Chicago as he's far too inconsistent to be in the same place for 10 seasons."

  • Armando Allen was 3 for 3 with 1 touchdown as a passer at Notre Dame. His QB rating in 2009 was 472. Teee-bow! Teeee-bow! Teee-bow!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • Fucking Bears man, fucking Bears right in the face. Damn this team is tough to love, but like anything you have to take the good with the bad and right now it's pretty fucking bad.

  • "I also sensed that McCown played with an intensity last night..."

    What tipped you off - when McCown dunked the football after his 2-point conversion made it 35-18? Hee hee:

    I don’t know, man,” McCown said when I asked him what possessed him to dunk. “I told Jay (Cutler), I went and apologized to the quarterbacks and they’re going to give me a hard time about it. I don’t know if that’s the right thing to do on a two-point conversion when you’re down. But I was just overcome with Christmas joy, I think.,0,4745437,full.story

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:


  • hey found out were Fucking half our team kind find new jobs to do since for next Christmas:

    Step up Major Penis

    shit the list can go on

  • Cutty has proven he can get the ball to the receiver whether he's open on not.
    Urlacher has more than proven he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
    Martz has proven his scheme is bunk and a majority of the Bears offensive success came when he moved away from his core philosophy and "ran" towards Bear football.
    Nelli has kept the D competitive, even good.
    Lovie has won some coaching battles but he's lost his fair share as well. Mixed bag of nuts.
    Angelo has proven he can make the bold moves and he has kept the Bears competitive during his tenure but he seems to be lacking finesse when assessing his tenure as GM.

    Overall, if Jerry can build "quality" depth on D, improve in the secondary and D-line, solidify the O-line and sign or draft 2 solid WR's, we'll be all set.
    Knox is done, Hester is not a viable WR, Bennet is a keeper, Roy is not the answer, and Sanzi is salvageable.

    Hmm. I've seen this movie before.

    Short term? If I could pick a couple of critical area's to improve upon for the success of this team, it would have to be at the WR and OC positions. Long term? A very tall order, even houdini would need some help with that.

    My "Hire Norv Turner" campaign has begun.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    It might be a bit awkward hiring Norv after they fired his brother but stranger things have happened in the NFL. Also, did I not read somewhere (maybe here) that Norv's system is similar to Martz's so that there wouldn't be that much of a learning curve?

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    In reply to TracDaddy:

    Knox is done? Dude your high, he's at least an ST starter and specialty receiver. You haven't been watching the same team as the rest of us. Roy W. should play soccer because he has no hands. Hester should be moved from offense to safety. Just sayin.

  • In reply to Notacubfan:

    I think Trac meant Knox may really be done.

    His vertebrae surgery was very serious and he may not play football again.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Don't Norv Turner offenses rely on an athletic pass-catching tight end? Boy, really makes you wish we didn't get rid of that guy... what was his name? Manamaleula?

  • In reply to evantonio:

    oh jesus christ, are you serious???

    Can we all please stop mentioning fucking olsen. Good riddance to the magician te. That dude should be in Vegas assisting Davidfuckingcopperfield

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    all i'm saying is he would fill a hole that will certainly appear if we bring in an OC who makes the TE a focal point. Antonio Gates has never been asked to block Jared Allen all by himself. He's just asked to run around and catch the ball. Olsen couldn't block for shit, but he was a decent pass-catching TE.

    not great. not forcing other teams to game plan around him. but decent. and that's better than what we've got now.

    of course, this is all moot if we stick with martz. because spaeth is awesome.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    the dude is a loser. Tired of bringing in losers maing.

    Besides, didn't we vow never to bring in another turner?

  • 1) On McKown. This is the second time in as many years that we've gotten excited about a 2 interception performance by a backup QB against the Green Bay Packers. I think the Packers D is probably in the bottom half of the last 5 defenses we've played (though they do get a lot of picks). Just because Hanie and McKown can score against the Pack doesn't mean they're not going to fall apart against a team like Denver. But with that said, McKown play better than Hanie.

    2) On the draft. I too have an opinion about what the order of priority is for us in the draft, but I don't think its meaningful to decide to draft a tackle no matter what in round 1, and a WR no matter what in round 2 or whatever. Especially in the later rounds it really depends on who's left on the board. This year, the first 15 picks could shake out a lot of ways depending on the league's appetites at the QB and CB positions.

    3) On Drew Breese. Tom Brady needs between 150-200 yards to break the record. Rodgers is about 450 yards away and probably will not pass for 5000 yards this season (boo hoo). Breese is now the only QB to pass for 5000 yards twice and owns the passing record. I have to say that it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. Breese has worked his whole career to get where he is now, and he is a great ambassador for the NFL.

    4) On Forte, Bartber and Bell. I see no reason not to keep all three on the roster. Bell is closer to Forte in his running style, which means less game-plan changes when Forte comes out. But Barber has shown this season that he can be the hammer when we need him and can put in a solid 10 carries a game (just not be the lead back with the game on the line). Plus, with this group, we don't need to find a running back in the off-season and can focus elsewhere.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Fair points on draft priority. That was just my wish list.

  • McCown was managing a winnable game, plain and simple. The Packers offered the game up, and we needed a big defensive effort, and we did not get it.

    The pass to Nelson was the game. Cover 2 is built around NO BIG MISTAKES. That sucked, because I thought we had game until then.

    Did Jennings fuck Lovie's daughter? Does Lovie have a daughter? Did he shit in Lovie's private john at Halas Hall? Because whatever he did, he was being punished over and above when sense would have taken hold, and Bowman pulled.

    Steltz is a baller, he with the bad Clay Matthews hair. He stays home when needed and can play the run, even against the big bruisers like the Giant's Jacobs. I like the kid. But he belongs on special teams, he's not a starter. Neither is Pringles. Pringles is a serviceable backup free safety.

    The Peanut-Lack-Briggs thing has maybe one more year in the tank, and then you are going to see big drop-off.

    Pep has another year. Izzy is showing signs like Wale did at the end, of just not having the motor to turn the corner anymore.

    Roach is a special teamer, period. I would have signed Pisa for one game, could it have been worse? I really don't like Roach.

    Melton has some push, but Flatbread and Okeye? Hello? That sucked. Flatbread is truly, truly the new Chris Zorich. His game is identical, he does one thing really well: Jump the G-Force run. He can be a terror against pure Gibbs like zone blocking because he's so quick. So teams angle block him, and he goes right down for the same reason Zorich did: he's too damn small.

    Edwin WIlliams is a serviceable backup guard.

    Roy's impression of a baby giraffe is getting really old. I should be happy to never see it in a Bears uni again.

    I think we all saw why Bennett is a slot guy, and that's what he is. He's not a 1. Not a 2. He's a slot man. A very good slot man.

    Next year, I hope we don't even see Hester working out in camp as wideout. Let's hang that up.

    The Bears are a fullback team. Always will be. Martz will never get his turf show here, and it was a bad idea to try.

    I see no reason to keep Matt Spaeth once Martz goes.

    The Packers should be lots of fun in the playoffs, like the Patties of the NFC. Neither team can defend for shit, so their games will by definition be shootouts. That should make for good television.

  • McCown says, "I must break you."

  • Our needs:

    1. Make determination on Martz. (If Jay wants him to stay {yes, I would let my franchise QB in on this decision}, and Martz is willing, than I give MM a 7 year deal). If not, than I hope we go after Norv and lock him up for 7 years. Jay needs some fucking stability. I wouldn't be bothered if Martz should want to part ways. As intelligent as Jay is, I would love to see him with options after making his reads.

    2. WR. We absolutely need one. I wish that the Cards would have accepted JA's offer a few years ago for Boldin, but their price was too high (we offered a 2nd round pick). (Note to MB, the Ravens ended up picking up Boldin for less than the Bears offered a 3rd and 4th for Boldin and a 5th a year later)... If Norv is our guy, than V. Jackson will be targeted. Otherwise I have no idea what Martz will be looking for. I think it is safe to say that he will be looking for a guy who can start digesting the playbook during OTA's (which would seem to preclude a top draft choice...)

    3, 4, & 5. I would use our # 1 on the best available CB, DE or LT. Each of these positions have a higher probability of starting from day 1, and with the money that you pay and the reduced years on their rookie contracts, it makes the most sense to get a guy who can play asap.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Jay will vote to can Martz. I'm fairly certain of that.

  • I'm glad the MSM is pissing in Jerry's wheaties.

    I hold Angelo responsible for bad drafts.

    2007-1 Olsen. Used well, then dealt when the philosophy changed. Grades out as a C.

    2007-2. Bauzin. Bust. Grade F.

    2007-3. LB Michael Okewo. Bust. Grade F.

    2008-1. Cookie. Busted at LT, best year at LG, was shit last year. Grade: C so far.

    2008-2. Matty. Grade: A

    2008-3. Earl the Pearl. Injured early, then came on. Grade: B+

    2009-1. Traded for Cutty.

    2009-2. Traded for Cutty.

    2009-3. Gilbert. Bust. Grade: F
    2009-3a. Iglasias. Bust. Grade: F
    2009-4. Melton. Grade B.

    2010-1 Traded for Cutty
    2010-2. Traded for Cutty
    2010-3. Pringles. Injured often, beat more than he should be. Grade: C-.
    2010-4. Wooten. Killed Farve, then nothing. Grade: I

    2011-1. Bear Jew. Grade: I. Injured rookie year. Should Jerry have known?
    2011-2. Flatbread. Bust. Grade: F (I'm calling it now)
    2011-3. Conte. Grade: C+ maybe can play back there for awhile.

    That is FIVE Fs and a couple of scary incompletes.

    If you trade the farm for a franchise QB, you better nail the picks you do get, and no way can that be said. Flatbread alone is a HUGE HUGE HUGE bust, considering we could have had Moffitt there.


  • Wait... so we should expect what this year? Hopefully, an early round no-brainer because someone fell through the cracks to us (wait, better double-check for historic knee issues), an obvious cash buy and maybe our 'extra' 3rd for M. Williams, and a bunch of questionable 2nd-7th rd C-F grade players... or even busts in a couple years?

    Awesome! So glad we're giving Jerry the keys to absolutely ratfuck yet another of our very important rebuilding/restocking drafts. I bet if you did the cost/benny analysis, it's going to be MUCH more expensive for the McCaskey’s to let angelo piss away millions and millions on bad picks than it would to just eat the last 2 years of his salary.

    Viva, you bastard. That was unnecessary roughness, taunting, hands to the face, and illegal procedure all in one… 55 yards and loss of TWO downs. Why do you do that to me? Can you imagine what jay would do with anquan on one side and maybe an M.Floyd-type #2 on the other side, with earl in the slot? My god man… that just gave ME a fearboner!

    (Anquan Boldin, 6’2” 225lbs:

  • Ginny is going to give Jerry the nickels he needs to replace Izzy with Mario Williams, I feel this one. Old Sauce will nag him for it.

  • i'd rather he gave him the nickels to get dwayne bowe. or vincent jackson. or greg olsen. or jermichael finley.

    shit, how fun would it be to steal jermichael?

  • Hey Johnny, how'd you like your indoctrination last night? Gotta watch out for shady maing, that dude runs around like a fucking crazed chicken.

    GP, johnny shady and I had a little free-for-all MW3 smack-down last night (just the three of us). You interested in some of that DBB action? Get in the game baby.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ...a crazed chicken with an M60.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd be a whipping post.

    I played BF3 with my nephew at Christmas. I watched how he rules the scoreboard. I just cannot get there.

    If I could figure out a way to get a keyboard and mouse going, I would. I'm 40 years old, my brain is hardwired from years of mouse play, I cannot do the controllers and FPS.

  • shit maing, I'll be 39 in a week. Not sure how old shady is, but johnny is our age.

    We're all the same... I play with another buddy who invited his 15 year old cousin to play once... the kid killed us both 10 times in quick succession before we got him once, and it was 2 against 1.

    Jump in with us, it's a fun stress reliever and we're ALL old and slow. If you get too jacked up you can just bail. Would be fun to have a bunch of DBB guys fucking each other up though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you ever try one of these?

  • get that if you want it GP. whatever to get you in the game maings.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i'm 33 you old motherfuckers. i'm almost a baby compared to GP.

  • I hear ya GP...I was around for PONG......high tec was pac man. I can't even play against my 8 year old grandson.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    fucking heartbeat sensor

    We have to team up and get into some bigger games. there wasn't enough action for me

  • Score is lighting up Bears

  • Man, the fans are pissed about Briggs and Forte laughing and joking around in the 4th Quarter on the sidelines. The guys on the Score are pissed about this.

    This is like the thing with that Cards QB journeyman last year, where they torched him for laughing and joking on the sidelines after he got lit up.

    Also, Chucky is leaving the MNF booth to go be a coach for a big college program yet un-named, perhaps Purdue.

  • rumors say possibly the rams too?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yes, true.

  • The D packed it in. Plain and simple.

    Briggs laughing is just proof of that. Don't like that dude. If he stays on the team, he's going to have alot of records too.

    I mean, Urlacher was still yelling at people for being out of position, while Briggs was laughing it up on the sidelines as we were eliminated from the playoffs by our oldest rival.

    What a fucken douche. If we can get a first rounder for him, I say we draft Burfict with that pick and don't look back.

  • no way we get a 1st for lambo... maybe a 3rd?

    If we can't get a OL or DB worthy with our first pick I would be willing to go with MLB and with Vontaze... but the dude does come with off field isssues.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, maybe not a 1st MB.

    But hey, there are some SHITTY D's out there who would love him.

    I'm thinking of the Bucs, Colts, Panthers...

    I think a 2nd for a 7 time pro-bowler is not out of the realm of possibility.

  • any interest?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He reminds me of our boy Roy, can make a tough catch but drops the ones he ought to catch. I guess if the price is right I'd give him a look. I would NOT commit any big money to him. I'd try him like we tried Gholston and Okoye. We might get some production out of him.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    It's amazing how quickly these players are over the hill. NFL years are like dog years...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can't be worse on a re-habbed knee than Roy. Bring Braylon back to the midwest, might be his last shot.

    Score is talking about an interesting topic:

    Martz is hot at Jerry for the LaFavor thing. He really wanted LaFavor, and Jerry put him on practice allowing him to get plucked. That, apparently, really made Mike mad.

  • Yeah Murph... if we get the jerry special and don't pick a real #1 in the draft of off the FA list, then we should.

    Gp, listening now too... nice to know there's a lot of other angelo-haters out there too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I too had DeLefevour fever.

    He was REALLY mobile. He showed accuracy, toughness, intelligence.

    Sucked the Bengals swooped in on him, but wasn't Martz the one that wanted to bring in a "veteran" after Hanie got injured in preseason, thus letting LeFevour go?

  • Bad... ass:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The chrome is bad ass.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man those are awesome!

  • Fuck n00bz.

    Ken Anderson not only gets shafted for the HOF, but he gets jobbed on the hardest playoff game in history.

    I gotta add a comment to this article:

    Holy fucktard, how do you leave the 1981 AFC Championship game between the Bengals and Chargers out of the list? Can't Collinsworth pimp that game? Youngsters.

    The wind chill was -59 degrees! It was cold enough for people to DIE on the field. Bengals won 27-7, and I remember that game like it was yesterday. Ken Anderson belongs in the HOF JUST FOR THAT GAME!

  • Article was written by a Packer fan. Now it makes sense.

  • That was a great game and a great Super Bowl. Collinsworth was fun to watch play. He was great to hear after the games.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Super Bowl that year.....against 49ers....

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Boomer's Bengals gave the Niners a better run, though.

  • "dabearsblog Schefter reporting Jags might consider Dave Toub for head coaching candidacy. He deserves the shot."

    Yes, he does.

    ...but talk about adding insult to injury. Losing the only 'great' coach we have will suck. Fuck me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And we play the Jags next year....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    why doesn't LDL make that a forfeit game...

  • Packers are going to get the winner of the Falcons-Lions game? At Lambeau? That's a win.

    It comes down to: Can the Niners or Saints go into Lambeau and beat them?

    I think it depends on the weather. Niners have a better shot with their run game.

  • rooting for the Red & Gold here!...because the coach still has a little navy blue and burnt orange running through those veins...

  • why?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    buh bye roy. thanks for the drops.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    the real pisser is fucking "Glitchy" is mulling it over...ugh$#!@$#!!!!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    yeah, it's a no brainer.

    Roy - you suck.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    why? because he knows no other team will sign him. :)

  • In reply to evantonio:


  • MB..........HELP........ME................So............Very.............Tired.................aagghhhhh (dying gasp)............

  • Hahahahaha... fuck man. I do not envy you my maings.

    ..and there's nothing I can do to help you now. Damn, I remember those nights/days so vividly still. At least his shit don't stink yet... in fact, the booby milk makes it smell kinda sweet- it's the little victories at this point my man. And if you can get the wife to be on top once she's recovered down there, the milk actually tastes nice too... uhhh.. I mean... I've... uhhh... read.

    net-net, it's brutal for the first 4-6 months no matter what. I fear I'm in for the same fate, only at 40 yrs old if I can't talk my wife out of #3, which she seems bent on right now. Maybe after she gets a little taste of vacation freedom over the next year she'll change her mind.

    I'll pour some of my 40 out for you tonight homie. Hang in there.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm mostly exaggerating. My mom's in town and the wife and I have the alternating sleep schedule down pretty good. The boy's been sleeping (unheld) for almost two hours now. That's a good sign. I'm mostly worried about after my mom leaves and after the new semester begins in a week. Things are cool, mang.

    And not to sound like a sissy or anything, but as crazy as it sounds, baby's are kind of addictive. One night in the sack, out comes this perfect little human being. What will he look like? What will his personality be like? It's such a fun crazy experiment. But alas, it has to stop sometime, and I'm quitting this addiction cold turkey ASAP.

    Oh yeah, the transition from man to zone is tricky too. The middle of the field keeps getting exploited by my three year old. Haven't gotten beat deep yet, so, you know....bend don't break.

  • oh, that's coming. the second the little fuckers outnumber you you're screwed.

    You'll get beat deep alright... like pringles and swole on the deep seam.

    Make your appointment today maings.

  • If Zygi, who is a dipshit, fires Leslie F in Vikes land - then I say we kick Old Sauce to the curb and go get him.

  • If Cutler is going to be around as long as the Bears think he is, I hope management is including him in the discussion on potential new WRs (and any other O side roster moves). I don't know how those things work but from where I sit, that's just common sense...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    T...from your cyber lips to the football Gods ear....I hope Cutty is on it....


    the saddest part of this article:
    "The Bears have missed the playoffs for the fourth time in five seasons. How much turnover will that cause? " none "We are all set".........btw the "We are all set" was my .02

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    How 7-3 can turn into 7-9 is beyond me.

    If you have a team with even a little depth, and a weak schedule, you don't drop 6 in a row and crushingly implode like a U-boat at depth.

    I just don't think that the "oh well, this was our injury year" excuse should fly.

  • 100fucking% GP.

    As usual, no one will be held accountable at halas.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Simple, our "Star" quarterback broke his thumb tackling a defensive player, then we got Hanied. Jerry gets to pass go and collect his 200.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    yes. it's called bullshit where I come from (which is the same place you come from)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    hee hee

  • In reply to TracDaddy:


  • full implosion GP...full implosion!...and yep..the idea ..well you had a lot of injuries is just an excuse...simple..."WE WERE NOT ALL FUCKING SET" Glitchy you MOTH!@$#!^$!@FU%^!@#$%^!ER!!!

  • Oh noez! Jay Cutler and Matt Forte are being placed on injured reserve! How are we ever to make the playoffs now?!?

    new year's resolution: don't shit talk friends about the bears playoff inevitability until they actually clinch.

  • Whoopie, Briggsy made the Pro Bowl again! At least we have that, huh boys? (wink, wink)

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Peanut made it for the 1st time as well. He was having a great year anyway, but the Tebow pick probably sealed the deal.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Shady...where did you find it?

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    it better be more than Briggsy because I thought he was average this year...Lach, Gould, Peanut, Peppy, Hester, Graham...if not it's just another bend over and here it comes 2011 Season of Disappointment...
    oh btw...

    FUCK YOU Glitchy!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    and those who think Briggsy was on top of his game..look at all the gaps he many to count this year...

  • BR has us taking a damn domer

  • the part I like is

    Chicago could also look to address the offensive line by adding Ohio State's Mike Adams. Adams would be able to come in and replace J'Marcus Webb at left tackle.

    F U WEBB

  • did you see who was taken right after us in their mock? Hee hee... we can get vontaze instead and get a proven #1 in FA. Hee hee. That said, floyd is a biiiiiig kid (6'3" 230, 4.5 40... Yow!)

    Is the honey badger not declaring this year? has he said he'll stay? Talk about a guy who can start at corner/FS for us day 1... and he can replace knox for returns.

    There seems to be a glut of good DBs in this year's draft, which is very good for us.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB... remember who our GM is..he will fuck this one car funeral one way or another.

    he would be the guy who could actually fuck up a wet dream...what assclown

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Tyran is a stud, so is the claiborne kid. LSU was blessed with DB's this year.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    murph, stud doesn't describe it... he was a hester0style playmaker. The dude just made huge plays every game... on D and sometimes on specials.

    jesus H Christo can we PLEASE get him... please?

  • I wonder who'll get drafted from Penitentiary State?

  • Bite your tongue......damn domer.
    Man I'd take Floyd in a heartbeat. Big receiver, great hands, fights for the ball, good speed. I can only hope.



  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I likery! Gold star lobo, gold star my man.

  • In case you haven't seen it:

    Monkey riding a dog at halftime of the Denver Broncos vs. New England. Hilarious on so many levels.

  • In reply to Shady:

    tee hee hee...anything with a monkey riding something is a riot...

  • In reply to Shady:

    that's what it's going to look like tonight when I come in an mess you up

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Get some monkey.


  • In reply to lobotobear:

  • Well on a brighter note it was another Beary Merry Christmas with many more Bears tchotchkies coming my way including beer mugs, chefs apron and hat,bottle opener, key ring etc. I think the best gift this year was the Bears Garden Gnome which will now be my stand in for all travel photos. Honorable mention goes to my buddy Geoff who got me a pair of Bears Crocs, 9.0for originality 0.5 for usability.
    I hope all of you had a Merry Christmas and here's to the new year.. and new season!

  • GRAHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! proBowl

  • Double Deuce!!!!!!!!!! PB

  • NO "F"ING PEPPY???????????????????? WTF!!!!

  • No Gold......

  • FIVE PB'S wish it was eight.


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Defensive end Julius Peppers and return specialist Devin Hester were selected as first alternates.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Hester got screwed - he contributes way more than Peterson does.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Meh! He had a stretch in the middle of the season where he rocked but pretty much was pedestrian at the beginning and end of the season. His fielding of the football the last 6 games was pretty much atrocious. The voters got that one right.

  • two fudgers that shouldn't have been:


    and Jerkings

  • btw...trac you'll love this:

    Urlacher has now been voted to eight Pro Bowls, tying Dick Butkus, Doug Atkins and Bill George for the third most in franchise history behind only Mike Singletary (10) and Walter Payton (9). All five of those former Bears are enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Lach will be in Canton, no doubt. First ballot baby.

  • saw this on the interwebs and thought some of youz guyz would find it funny:!


    Damn, von miller, first year... pro bowl. Damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and yeah while hester got jobber regardless... he did disappear when the team needed him most. Yes, I know... he's injured, but if he had broken even one more return in the last 4-5 games, he would have been the returner. He got hurt playing WR right... that needs to stop altogether next year. enough.

    We just got crushed with injuries this year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • BradBiggs about 1 hours ago Matt Forte is 1st offensive player drafted by #Bears GM Jerry Angelo to be named to Pro Bowl. Angelo has drafted 8 Pro Bowlers in 10 years.

    wow. that CAN'T be good.

    Can someone with a tweeter account twitterist to biggs and ask him how ted tompson, ozzie, the colts guy, and the guy at the pats have done during their tenure? Jeff?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd be really curious too as to how other GMs or GM/HC combos have done in the draft. I wonder if there's a site somewhere that has "standings" for them?

  • In reply to tobijohn:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Let's think about that for a minute. In the probowl you've got 21 offensive players, 17 defensive players, and 5 special teams guys for each team. That's 86 spots, but there's a lot of repetition. This year there are 35 new players at the probowl, let's call that average.

    So if an average of 35 new players make the pro-bowl, then that means roughly one player per team per year should be a new pro-bowl guy.

    Its fair to say the pro-bowl favors offense guys (21 spots versus 17) and favors big play types - so the pass catching TEs get more votes than blockers, etc etc. But you figure every style of offense/defense has its stars. The cover-2 doesn't really feature the cornerbacks so much for example, but the D-line gets a lot of camera time. Also, teams that win a lot of games tend to get a lot of players chosen, so there's a high tide raises all ships dynamic as well.

    Statistically that puts Angelo in the middle of the pack, he's not too far below the 1 per year average (8/10), he may still see players he already drafted make the probowl (Tillman is a good example this year, Bennett also could go that direction as could some of our young D guys).

    Now the big question is what about the 1 versus 7 split of offense versus defense. Well, I think you can argue that a couple of ways.

    1) Look at our top picks and whether they were offense or defense guys. The ratio should match, though I'm sure we're not drafting 88% defense in the top three rounds - our O-line alone has two first round picks right now. Still, we have a defensive philosophy so you expect more D than O.

    2) Blame the QB. We didn't have a good QB so everyone looked worse. Give Jay a few more years and he'll make the entire offensive team look better, and that includes Forte. In fairness to Angelo, he got us Jay.

    3) Blame the OC. We didn't have a good OC for quite a while, and that hurt our ability to make players look good. I don't think you get far with this one, especially since Angelo has a lot of say in picking coordinators.

    4) Blame JA. 7 defensive players in 10 years is pretty good, especially since we've used at least half of our first round picks on offense. JA was forced to commit a lot to try to fix the offense, so some of the picks may have been reaches (e.g. Chris Williams as a left tackle), but ultimately you expect a GM to pick at least one star in the top 3 rounds. One or more out of every three years (assuming a defensive minded team), I would expect that to be an offensive star.

    So whatever value the probowl has as a talent evaluation tool, JA looks to be weak on the offensive side of the ball. Instead of 1 guy, we should have sent 3-5.

  • thinking of the Bear Pro-Bowler and first time ballot of HOF.....enjoy one more time boys and girls:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I loved that sound track lobo.

  • Man sometimes it hurts to be a Bear Fan:

    Part 1:

    Part 2:

    I wonder what he will have for this years tribute...damn it's painful

  • Doc, congratulations on your big healthy baby. That's always good news.

    Since I'm not ready to start talking about drafts and management, I'll tell a few nice little sports stories. I worked at Blackhawk Country Club when going to college at Wisconsin. One early Sunday morning in 1992 or 1993, between 5:30 and 6:30, this old man is walking across the golf course at a brisk pace. It turns out it's Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch, a HOF'er. They had a 50th anniversary Badger football party the night before, and he got a"little" messed up. He was hurrying to get his car home before his wife woke up so he wouldn't get an earful of grief.
    When I worked at Blackhawk, this guy John Kotz used to bring in donuts every morning and smoke a giant cigar. A different employee would pay for the donuts every day. He was the MVP of the 1941 college basketball championship. He was one of the first "jump shooters". He was an early pioneer. The two hand set shot was obsolete after this.

  • Bears did all they could do, defense gave up that game say what you want about Aaron Rodgers, but 35 points is not very Bear like.
    Josh mccown and it's tough to say if we would have won that Cheifs game or Broncos game because Packers pass defense is horrible so 21 is not very suprising I will say that Hanie probably would not have got 10 points against the Packers. but hey at the end of the day, I will root for my team wear the hat and have people say oh sorry about your Bears, because that is my team I will sky rocket when they win, I will sink when they lose. we got one more year to try to put it all together and try to win a championship,
    Bear down and hope you all had a good christmas.

  • Jeff had a recent tweet about how fans should be excluded from Pro Bowl voting. I agree 110% Players and coaches only should determine who goes to the Pro Bowl (maybe include some former players and coaches as well but not sure of the criteria for determining who they would be) . I knew it was like that at one time but I guess it was better marketing to get fans who 95% of are probably unqualified to judge (that includes me too), involved in the selection. There are some excellent sportswriters who know what they're talking about but there are plenty who seemingly don't so I'm not sure if I want their input either. Anyway, don't sportwriters determine who is All Pro? If they want to keep fans involved then they can have an All Fan list like the previously mentioned All Pro list....

  • I imagined a team next year that had a new #57 on D this time. Burfict, Briggs and Lack. I imagined what Burfict would do to Finley coming across the middle. There...will.. be.... blood.

    I closed my eyes on the train and imagined a world where Nick Roach only played special teams. It was a nice image.

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