Audibles From the Long Snapper: Hopes Dwindling Edition

Audibles From the Long Snapper: Hopes Dwindling Edition

The updated Picks Contests playoff bracket is above. Rules for this week's matches will be available with the Weekend Show on Friday.

Playoffs?! You Talk About Playoffs?!

The truth is this: it's no fun to consider the Bears prospects of making the postseason. Two reasons: (1) They can't seem to beat anyone and (2) Who would want to see Caleb Hanie start a road playoff game? The Bears would be in the playoffs today were they to have survived either the Chiefs or Broncos - two teams they would have beaten by three touchdowns each were Cutler the quarterback - and now would need help even if they were to go into Lambeau and pull the upset of the year. If you want to remain optimistic (and at least have some fun here down the stretch) pull for the Jaguars in Atlanta Thursday night. If Jacksonville wins, the Bears could find themselves truly back in the mix by beating the Seahawks.

On Jerry Angelo...

Anybody who is using the last three games as a mean to indict the management decisions of Jerry Angelo is off-base. The management decisions of Jerry Angelo had the Bears 7-3 and looking like one of the two or three best teams in the NFL. Then they lost their best offensive player (and second best player overall behind Peppers) and a team that scored four offensive touchdowns in the Detroit Lions game has scored three in three games since. Cutler is to the Bears what Eli Manning is the Giants, Brees is to the Saints and Big Ben is to the Steelers. If those teams lost their QB they'd be in the same situation the Bears are in right now.

Josh McCown Should Start Sunday 

I don't believe Josh McCown will be a significant improvement over Caleb Hanie but I do believe I've seen enough of Hanie. Put McCown in the game. If he looks like the second coming of Jonathan Quinn or Todd Collins after two or three drives, toss Hanie back into the fire and hope the benching serves as a wake up call. Hanie looked lost throwing the ball against a secondary that surrendered 400 yards to Christian Ponder the previous week. 400 yards. Christian Ponder. If Lovie continues to take the "Caleb is our quarterback" approach to the 2011 regular season, he may wind up 7-9.

I also Tweeted this yesterday but I'll share it here now: we all owe Mike Martz an apology. He never believed in Caleb Hanie and was criticized handily for it, especially by me. He was right. I was wrong.

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  • Hey, I made it out of the first round! Woohoo!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Are you ready to get Tebowed Dave? He he.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    Didn't that just happen?

  • Might good of you Jeff. Don't forget he believed in Todd Collins though!

  • Didn't Charlie Batch come in and win a few games for the Steelers during their SuperBowl run?

  • I have to disagree with you on Big Ben Jeff. If you remember he missed the first four games of the season a year ago and the Steelers went 3-1 with Charlie Batch.

  • When Ben went out in the Chiefs game for a couple quarters, the Steelers looked like the worst offense in football.

  • They are a far different team now. They don't run the ball with any effectiveness and Ben has become a prolific passer.

  • Yeah, but you forgot Rodgers. Packers are probably 6-10 or worse without him. Kinda like us without Cutty.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Agreed, forgot Rodgers, Brady, even a piece of crap like Josh Freeman is tons better than their #2 in Tampa... and agreed that all those teams would be in the can if they lost their big QB.

    JA has done a great job, this team was supposed to be slightly better than the Vikings this year, but they were in the top 5 teams in the whole NFL before Cutty went down. Man this sucks.

  • In reply to Perno:


  • In reply to Perno:

    Not sure about that. Rodger's back up almost beat the Pats last year. Even their 3rd string QB showed potential.

  • Why McCown over Enderle?

    Put the kid in... let's see what he can do. If McCown is good, so what?

    What exactly is the point of seeing what a perennial turd can do?

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Totally agree Willie. We're not going to the playoffs so everyone should just get over that dream. Give Enderle 3 games. It would give Martz a chance to see if the kid has anything. We know what Hanie has (nothing) and McCown isn't going to be the 2nd coming (he was coaching HIGH SCHOOL football just 3 weeks ago).

    Jeff, not buying your defense of Numb Nuts. If his only failing was backup QB, OK,maybe. The only place where we have any depth is DL and DB's. I used to think we had some depth at RB but apparently one of them is situationally challenged.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    perennial turd... excellent.

  • Canada, my point is a simple one: If Jay Cutler is QB, we're 10-3 and nobody is complaining about JA. Nobody. We are now a QB-driven team in a QB-driven league. This is a good thing. But it means you can't lose your QB when the guy's a star.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    but we did loose cutty, and we're nowhere near 10-3, and THAT is where a GM really earns his keep. When the shit hits the fan and you see that he only ever had a plan A. everything after that has more holes than swiss cheese.

    I honestly don't get your dogged defense of a guy who seems to ALMOST kind of get us somewhere every 4-5 years. You really should be a bengals or atlanta fan. Depth and consistency is what I want for this great organization and name.

    With Jerry Angelo at the helm it will ALWAYS be an 'almost' or 'could have except for the one game or that one injury' situation.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You say things just to say them. A lot of the time.

    He only ever had a plan A? His star quarterback went out for the season? Where's the genius organization you love with a backup plan for losing the star quarterbacks? This team was playing at an elite level. Jay gets hurt. You wanted Jerry to do what, exactly? Who did you want backing Jay up?

    Does our defense have a single hole currently? Outside of depth behind the linebackers - which hasn't been needed - is there a single real hole on the defense? Now find me four other defenses in the league you can say that about. Four please. Go find them.

    And it's amazing how offensive line wasn't a major issue on a five-game win streak with the QB playing at all pro level and suddenly they suck again? Your problem MB is you have no respect for how fucking good Jay Cutler is. You have no respect for how important a deal that was Jerry Angelo because you continue to call it a no-brainer. And you won't be happy to JA is gone.

    Is JA a great GM? No. And I continually write that. But blaming him, at all, for the last three weeks is mindless. It's ignoring what is actually happening on the field. When you have an elite quarterback and you lose him, your season is basically over.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    "You say things just to say them. A lot of the time."

    That might be true, but I'm also one of the guys who keeps your readership up even in the midst of the offseason. But I think the post above was as much a smackback because I directly challenged you... and it came off as a bit butt-hurt to be honest. But that's fine.

    First, the defense? I don't know how to do that in a non-empirical way. Ok, let me ask you this... how does our Dline look if we lose pep? How about lach (you like dom diccico that much huh)? We have safeties that can sit 20 yards back and defend the long ball (most of the time), nothing that can even reasonably be considered a franchise FS. Do you feel that way? As far as how the numbers ACTUALLY fall this year… we’re the 20th ranked defense (well below .500)

    Do I love our D, hell yes. Heart of our team man. Do I think they’re above top 20 in the real world? Hell yes. Do I think they’re top 5? Nope. And I know that it only takes ONE fucking play to expose a gaping fucking hole in any one of the D levels. THAT is my issue with angelo… because he has perennial stars at core positions, he thinks he can get by drafting shit (i.e., mediocre) in late rounds and not making FA pickups at spots that have plagued us for YEARS and YEARS. You’re happy with that? Honestly, are you?

    Secondly, I have huge respect for cutty but it has nothing to do with that deal – and no, it wasn’t even close to an INTELLIGENT deal, there is rarely a franchise QB available in FA and all jerry did was ask for the money to finally buy us one… please explain how that’s so fucking brilliant? And it’s not even that, it’s that there IS NO PLAN BEYOND cutty dude (just like most positions on this team). You call josh fucking mcCown a plan? honestly? to Martz' credit he told lovie and angelo that caleb was shit, they heard it right from the horse' mouth. Yes, I am correct… we have zero GOOD plan after him. Shit, didn’t even vince whatsisface win a game for the eagles?

    Yes, you are correct… I will not be happy till JA is gone. And no, you don’t continually write that, you continually write how the guys on the blog who don’t like Angelo and are vocal about it are wrong. THAT is what you write… and I completely fucking disagree with it. Angelo is the cancer that keeps us out of the playoffs and out of SB contention every year… no matter how close we come. you know what 'almost' is good for Jeff?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Again, I DON'T write that. I write what Jerry Angelo has done. I write as much as anyone about our lack of elite wide receiving talent and our fledgling offensive line.

    1. Cutler was traded for. Not signed. He was not "on the market" and if you go back and look at the response to the deal Angelo made, most NFL analysts called it way too much. He gave up a pair of first round picks and Kyle Orton. What got that deal made, if you remember, was KYLE ORTON. THE BRONCOS WANTED A STARTING CALIBER QB IN RETURN. The Redskins did not have that, in the Broncos mind, so we won out on Cutler. So it was Jerry's having attained Kyle Orton and his willingness to give up a king's ransom that attained Cutler.

    2. Defensive yardage rankings. C'mon. If you think our defense is 20th in the league then you are right, JA should be fired. They are not. They are 9th in points allowed. 9th.

    3. Show me a single team in the NFL with a backup QB capable of leading them to a championship. Just one. You show me one and I'll say "you win". Do you have any idea how hard it is to build an NFL roster? Do you not realize than a third of NFL franchises don't even have a good STARTING quarterback?

    You don't like Jerry Angelo. I get it. But to say he keeps us out of the playoffs and SB contention every year is where you lose me. Because I think all the data proves you wrong.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    1. Ok, so tell me how that is brilliant again? Still don't get it. He might have sort of won an IQ battle with Josh fucking McDaniels. Maybe.

    2. Ok, we're 9th. Top 3rd. Like I said, I love our D. But we lose pep, briggsy, lach, peanut, etc... we're not going to end up a top 3rd d. And let's talk long-term... what happens when we lose one or all of them to age/contract/etc...?

    3. I never said leading them to a champeeship. The cunt just had to win 2-3 games for us man. That's it... we just needed a guy who could win a few games and get us in there for a shot. Who knows when or if cutty will be back this year, but there's a chance that if we were in the playoffs he could be there by the first game right?

    Yes, he has kept us out of both (see: last two years)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Let's take it down a notch, ok guys? It's great to see Jeff actively defending his positions and MB's comments are one of this site's best features, imo. Da Blog is my only consolation this season and I can't afford a therapist if it also goes to shit.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I think this is the best PART of DBB, to be honest.
    I like it when we can scrap over the relative merits of personnel and coaching decisions. When it turns into a blind rah-rah fest or a convention of Debbie Downerism, it gets redundant.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I agree. That's why I said, it's great to see Jeff actively defend his opinions. It's the personal stuff I was referring to.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    It ain't actually personal. It's debate. We're all upset about where we're at right now and we are all looking for answers.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    not true... I hate you I hate you I hate you!

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Hate you more. Your gravatar is full of cheese, your name sounds like a cheap graphics card, and your comment lacks a reply button

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    That hurt.

    And the only thing to know about my tiny almost unintelligible gravatar is that it contains Mike Brown kicking as much 'full of cheese' as there ever was.

    Besides, I was talking to jeff.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Yeah, I realized that afterwards. The lack of reply buttons, you know... everything's a reply to Buttsteak.

    PS: I come from the political blogosphere. Several blogs I liked were brought down by flamewar. It always started with debate - Hillary vs Obama, for example. Soon it was bitch this, ni**er that. Then it got personal. Then commenters left. Then it got boring and more commenters left and then the blogs died, because few people read blogs regularly just for the main post. So if I over reacted to what I thought was a personal snipe, well, I'm thenthitive. Thorry.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    take down
    and a
    this is the way
    brothers get rid
    of a bad stretch of road

    and also

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    a winner every time
    give that man a cigar
    you are now entered into the "Karl" club
    by posting over 500 words

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    I get your point Jeff but you're forgetting about one thing. Many of us ALWAYS complain about JA.

  • me 2
    or win all
    three of them
    see how 1]did that
    Mr. 10ured MATHEMATICS
    has anyone ever
    told you
    "You remind me of The Count"

  • Also, question for Jeff. Am I facing Ufficio in this round then? Any particular reason you decided to have the top seeds play each other? Just want to clarify.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    You play Ufficio. Wanted to give you each bye week and it was easier to draw.

  • You and I can give up on the playoffs, but Lovie cannot give up until the Bears are basically mathematically eliminated. As Jeff points out, if Atlanta loses, we are very much in the hunt.

    If we lose to the Seahawks and all of our competition (Detroit, Atlanta, Dallas, New York) pick up wins, then we can look at giving Enderle some playing time.

    I do agree though. Might as well give Enderle some time on the field if the season is a bust.


    I know that Al will dissagree, but this is utter bullshit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's thumbing his nose at the commish MB. Even his ex-player supporter's think he's pushing the envelope too far.

  • Jeff, I don't know about this post; I think you're too emotionally frustrated to be analytical about the Bears without falling prey to hyperbole.

    When players get injured, the Head Coach can get a pass but the General Manager (procurer of talent) cannot. I think it's been pretty evident to everyone over the last few years that the Bears were always an critical injury or two from a significant fall off. That's Angelo's fault. He's not expected to replace diamonds with diamonds, but he's not supposed to replace diamonds with coal either. Depth is almost always a factor late in the season, and it's also something that is compromised when you bring in prized free agents but strike out in the war room.

    I've heard the "mea culpa, Mike Martz" a lot this week in regards to the backup quarterback situation, and there is some validity to it but it's exaggerated. The fact is that no matter how lousy Caleb Hanie is, Todd Collins is still significantly worse. Don't praise him for his lack of faith in Caleb Hanie, chastise him for his faith in Todd Collins. Speaking of the backup QB situation, your General Manager is responsible for giving your coaching staff something to work with.

    Last, the bears were definitely playing well before Cutler's injury, but I don't think you could say they were top 2 or 3 teams in the NFL. I'd take the Packers, Saints, Texans, Ravens and perhaps the 49ers, Steelers and Patriots over them. They were probably top 6.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I'd say that's an honest, even-handed, fair analysis of the situation.

    Depth is important. Go figure.

    However it must be said, not many teams have backup QB's that are really all that good. But still....

  • off the top of my head:
    * San Diego (Volek)
    * Green Bay (Flynn)
    * Rams (Feeley)
    * Cheifs (Orton)

    And the dude from the texans has done well for them right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Feeley and Volek, huh. I'm supposed to take this seriously. When's the last start of Billy Volek's career? Answer: 2005.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    as you know, I live in SD. I've seen volek play and he is exponentially beyon what caleb haney or josh mcCown tell santa they wish they were.

    So tell me about the texans jeff. They just strike it rich with whatevertheirrookiesnameis? Obviously better offensive coaching.

    I also left you a longer post above. Enjoy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    TJ Yates. I blame Martz for having a ridiculously hard offense to learn that has no audibles.

  • In reply to Perno:

    ok, and why do we have martz here?

    Because no one else would take the gig (literally) after JA and lovie essentially were in a lame duck position.

    Again, my main point… everything JA touches turns to aluminum.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Martz and the quandary that he places our offense in...that should be exhibit A of your beef with our front office.
    How did we get that desperate within a season and a half of a Super Bowl appearance?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He was the best option at a time when the head coach's future wasn't looking very bright. Hard to sign good help when your HC could be out of a job soon.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He was the ONLY fucking option at the time... literally.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    To be fair, we tried to get Orton when he was available and failed due to the waiver system, not because we didn't want him.
    I can't comment on Volek without doing some research, but you sound like you've seen him play so - advantage MB30.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I have to say it's a sad/weird bad day when a packer fan (no matter how intelligent and well behaved while adding real value) has it right over the guy who owns this blog.

    Jeff your dogged belief and defense of Angelo has boggled my mind for a couple years now. As I’ve said millions of times here… depth is the key to a GMs success. We have almost none… never mind his terrible draft record (the second place a GM makes his money). There is no defense for Angelo and, the last two years of ‘almosts’ have gotten us just that… almost success. Not good enough.

    I will disagree with you on your ranking there BC. We were scoring 30+ points a game and the D was pitching strong games. I think we’d be ahead of Texans, and at least steelers. I think we’d give the saints, 9ners and you guys a big run for your money. But like you said, none of that matters if your second string would have trouble beating LSU (the honey badger!!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    Our starting safeties this year were Major Wright and Chris Harris. Our safeties this week were Chris Conte and Craig Steltz.

    We have four corners playing at a high level.

    Our defensive line is 10 deep. 10.

    Two of our five projected starters on the offensive line are currently on IR and we rush for over 100 yards every single week. Three weeks ago, we were putting up 30+ every week.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    wait wait wait...

    You just made my damn point for me?!?!?! We have no GOOD depth at safety for the what, 5th year running now? How is that NOT an indictment of angelos complete lack of ability to find us a true FS for 5 fucking years!?!?! Honestly?

    Four corners playing at a high level... zack bowman? I love timmy J, but I've quietly watched him personally guarantee two TDs over the last 3 weeks... to TERRIBLE teams. The truth is we have great depth at nickle, not corner.

    Our Dline without pep is average.

    Last point is well taken... can you imagine what we would be with just 2 or 3 more true starters on that line? Jerry have to opty to make a play for franklin (denver LT) in rd two but we instead picked up another dlinemen when to your point, we already had 9. And passed on clady (who's also a denver starter). What would we have looked like with franklin (or moffitt) and clady?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    WE DO HAVE DEPTH AT SAFETY, MB! WHAT FUCKING GAMES ARE YOU WATCHING? We're on our third and fourth options now and they're playing great!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And "our d-line without Pep is average". That's a shock. Why would a d-line without the best 4-3 defensive end in the sport decline? This is like saying "the Saints quarterback position without Drew Brees isn't that good."

    You seem to want two elite guys at every position. Not a single team in the league has anywhere close to that. The Bears players need to make plays and win.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    like cheese said not diamonds behind diamonds, but not coal either.

    And are you serious about our safeties? You feel comfortable with craig steltz and conte or major wright? Please remember that we've plaid the NFC West the last 4 games. Serviceable sure… great… not even close.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Conte and Steltz are playing really good football, can't deny that. I hated Steltz for the longest time but he's stepping up, and Conte has been fantastic for a rookie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "like cheese said"


    Divide and conquer!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    gotta give it to him man... he's put down that stupid go pack/bears suck shit for the whole year and has brought smart, insightful commentary.

    He's turned into the kind of packer troll we all wanted around here. Someone who brings value.

    I agree with his posts today. Bottom line. Maybe it’s that outside, non-biased perspective that we all need.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I would reply to you, but the gnomes won't have more than a 4 reply tree.

    I know, I know... The guy (or gal) made a decent point.

    Times are tough.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Oh, and whaddayaknow...

    I still read thinly viled trollerism in every one of his posts...

    He couldn't keep it under the shroud for too long.. "bears still suck".

    Perennial. Turd.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Veiled, viled... Same shit.

    Did I mention that I love this hypergnome markup language.

    Why would anyone want to reply to a reply of a reply of a reply? Why would anyone want to fill more than 40% of the screen with comments on a blog?


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff, we always don't see eye to eye on things but I have to also scratch my head on your defense of Angelo. I'm not going to say he's the absolute worse GM we could have BUT like our coaching...he's Mediocre at the very best.

    I'm sick and tired of "mediocre" with the Bears. They give us glimmers of hope and smash that hope into the ground like last Sunday, or the NFC Championship last year, not to mention the game in regular season where the players were forced not to play vs. the Pack who we could have eliminated from the playoffs right there and then, or the Super Bowl vs. Indie in which Lovie and the coaches were out coached at every turn and could not adjust....I could go on and on but shit never changes and always smells bad.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    I have never, ever, ever said Jerry Angelo is a good GM. Never once. But because I don't say he's awful folks rail against me. The truth is the Bears talent is far better than mediocre currently and this is the best Bears roster in more than a generation. The problem? Their elite QB and MVP-candidate tailback are hurt. It's really not that complicated.

    Sunday the backup tailback played a great game. But then he made two critical errors Forte would not make. That's life with backups.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    C'mon Jeff. Jason Hunter had a vice grip on Barber's hand. Forte would've been stripped of the ball too.

    I agree with you about Cutler though, and expressed it when Cutler went down. He is like the rising tide that lifts all boats, even Martz' little dingy.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    that's the issue on this string... it isn't about railing against you.

    It's about railing against angelo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And I'm not defending Angelo. I'm just tired of the damn fans letting the players off the hook. And when you blame Angelo for this stuff, that's exactly what you're doing.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    players are for the most part blunt instruments right? They will fuck up and you either say, 'meh he had a bad game.' or cut him because it's a chronic and not accute issue. I'm with that 100%.

    So why does angelo get a pass for his pathetic draft record? Why hasn't the history of failure been rewarded with the boot?

    Just like any big business... the boys at the top get a pass for sucking.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    amen to that
    the boys at the top
    of the USPS
    are angeloesque

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    This is not DEPTH. This is THE QUARTERBACK. The Bears have an offense designed and built now around THE QUARTERBACK. When you lose that guy, it's going to be hard to win games. How is that difficult to understand? I love when people give me Matt Flynn as the example. How about Matt Flynn, I don't know, start three games in a row and give teams film to watch. You'll notice the Packers are just as thin at backup QB as everybody else.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Your point relates directly to my point above.


    GOOD coaches can adjust. Martz or Lovie proved they cannot without Cuttie. So, losing Cutler was the straw that broke the Bear's back? Why not adjust the Offense to the Players we have now? If Hanie can't throw long the adjust to short passes without worrying about holding the pocket, run Barber and Bell to the outside more...I mean this is NOT rocket science...but our coaches are unable to even make simple adjustments DURING a game and when they try they put in a prevent defense vs a kid we stuffed the entire game.

    Fucking hopeless..

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    Short passes? Hanie missed an open five-yard slant and overthrew a late screen by five yards. Hanie is dreadful. But he fooled everyone in the NFC Championship Game.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Ok, He fooled me too cause I saw what he did at the NFC championship so....if he's THAT bad which I won't argue..BENCH HIM now...that s a COACHING decision...even though everyone can improve over time...we're out of time. But we'll get the same old stubborn Lovie saying Hanie's our QB..etc.etc.

    I'm not saying coaching is our only's a combo of tings I know but this problem seems to be the most consistent one I've notices over the last 5 years.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    I am shocked that Hanie wasn't benched at half time of the Broncos game. However, 0-0 may not be the time to pull the trigger on a QB change...particularly given how stagnant Denver was. They rolled the dice on Caleb again, and lost.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    Bowman blew that coverage, not the coaching staff.

    Barber decided the sideline looked good, not the coaching staff.

    And Hanie simply refuses to take the throws that are there, not the coaching staff.

    I'm a little surprised people didn't comment more on the dropped passes against the Broncos last week as well. It looked like the receiving corps that we've come to know and "love" all over again. Primarily, I think that's because EB has been a complete afterthought. Hanie has no feel for him.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    In regards to Flynn, I think we covered the myth of how good he is a few threads back.

    The team that I think is a better measuring stick this season is the Texans.
    They have survived some dramatic blows to their personnel over the past six weeks, and extended absences by the rest of their stars at intermittent points throughout the entire season.

    And yet, how many playoff games have they been IN...much less won, over their existence?
    So, there's that.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Exactly. I think there's this belief that great organizations exist. They don't. There is one. Pittsburgh.

    The Colts have been the banner franchise, winning 12 every year. Lost their QB. WINLESS!

    When's the last time the Pats did any damage in the postseason?

    The Giants win Super Bowls, sure. But they have an awful defense and Tom Coughlin has won 0 playoff games outside their Super Bowl run.

    Right now the Packers have the best QB on the planet. If they lost him, they'd never overcome that defense.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    You know who did quite well with depth at QB? The Lions. They've seen Stafford go down hurt multiple times since he was drafted. A while back they played half a season with their 3rd string QB. They weren't serious playoff contenders for a lot of reasons during that time, but nobody said they were losing games because of poor QB play. At least not like we've lost the last 3.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Your definition of "quite well" would not survive most on here. But I quite like Shaun Hill. And there's a reason the Lions will not let him go.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    someone explain to me this
    since this is Hannie's 4th season
    how come we have to find out now
    that he is not ready?
    Does a GM get to say to the
    head coach
    "I am dumping him because
    he can't run our offense"

    or is it the OC's call
    and he struggles to eliminate him
    because of contrary opinion from above
    either the HC or GM
    I will say this
    they are all complicit
    and guilty
    especially knowing that
    in a Mike Martz offense
    the QB takes a pounding

    The way Cutler has
    been batered
    for 2 seasons
    we nare lucky he lasted this long
    so why in the good name
    of all that is holy and right WHY
    were we not better prepared
    for the day he went down?

    this is somebody's blunder
    will the real culprit
    please stand up
    GM or HC or QBC or OC
    whoever it is
    it was a failure

    especially if our offense
    is QB driven

  • i was just reading an article on Suh, and it had comment by Conrad Dobler...I cam across this picture of those knees look horrible!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:


  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    holy.... shit.

    That is NOT good. wow.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I know I'm gonna catch flack for this but Conrad knew the risks while he was playing. The first time he had to get knee surgery, he could have made the choice to walk away from the sport but he chose to stay. He didn't because he played for the love of the game. You can't grandfather in every idiosyncrasy based on what happened yesterday. The guys in position to effect their future with today's collective bargaining will have to stand on the agreements they've made with the NFL for tomorrow. I'm all for getting the old guys some kind of benefits from within the players association but in my opinion, it will pretty much have to be left up to the charity of the NFLPA to do what they think is right.

  • In reply to TracDaddy:

    I wasnt taking any side on the story, I was just freakin shocked at the photos. I do agree with what you say. I especially dont feel any sympathy for guys like Fridge, who made tremendous amounts of money and pissed every last cent away. I do believe the owners make a ton of cash and should do their best to at least get some kind of health care available to the retired players.
    All that being said, I loved watching Conrad play! I was a Rams fan in addition to my Bears. I always found it awesome to watch Merlin Olsen and Dobler go head to head....what a battle!

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    This audio slide show from the New York Times, "Life After Football," is very good. The first segment is on Conrad Dobler.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Those are particularly ugly. But that was in the days before the arthroscope. Surgery is a bit different now.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    drew breeses' logic leaves me cold
    his thinking is as ugly
    as dobler's knees

    I just lost a bit 'o respect
    I wonder what makes him think
    life is all about a $

  • Play Enderle.

    As stated by Willie, who I just managed to TIE in the playoffs - a game I think I lose by virtue of the fact my bench was out-scored 44 to 50, holy Christ whose luck is worse, mine or the Bears? Maybe I'm like the Bears cooler or something, the William H. Macy of Chicago sportsdom. Fuck all.

    I don't need to see McClown, I can go visit him at the car wash in a year. I want to see if Enderle can develop over the next game well enough to give the Packers something - ANYTHING - to think about. I think the answer is no, not sure though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oh sorry wait, the playoffs add two weeks together. So, I'm still in it for the booby prize. Yay!

    4Ever85, despite being dominant in the regular season, is gonna get punked by Irish. Ohez Noez!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I seriously cannot believe that Irish and Trac are going to probably play for all the marbles. Go figure.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    he he.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hey, wait a goldarned second.
    I plan on being in the championship round in BOTH leagues, so don't go anointing anybody yet.

    Bonus points to you for "The Cooler" reference.
    Funny movie.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, we're still in the thick of it.

    It being general nothingness. Here's to the battle for runner-runner-runner-runner up!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    being a "cooler"
    ain't a bad gig
    you could be
    full of
    cold ones

    just don't be
    a "cooler"
    in the dugout
    on clark and addison
    when Carlos
    goes off

  • Niners v Pitt on MNF?

    Super Bowl preview?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Please. Anything but the shmegma...

    Anyone but GB vs. Anyone is okay with me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I've watched two Niners games recently and I think they suck. I was bemused as to how the Niners had gotten to be 10-2 with a QB who was annually up for worst QB in the league.

    It's just a damn shame Cutty went down, because the two best QBs in the league have the two worst defenses. We have probably the 4th or 5th best QB with a top ten defense. I would have bet my left nut that we were going in to Lambeau to wreck their perfect season before doing them again in the playoffs, then it was just a matter of seeing off either Denver or Pittsburgh in the big one.

    Does Cutty need to get the pins out before playing again? How was he throwing a ball around in Denver?

  • Oh yeah, last night and early this am every time I tried to come to Da Blog i would get the following error:

    502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.0.5

    Are we still supposed to Email the Chris J King dude and bitch when weird stuff happens on Da Blog?

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:


    The cool part is sometimes it takes you back to the last thread we had before we moved to the new blog.

    I could still see everyone's pictures. Funny thing is MB is the last comment that went through on the old site.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    he has a

  • I had chinese for lunch today. My fortune cookie read: "Pulling out equals 80% chance success rate."

  • In reply to Crown:

    maybe hanie should try this method

  • Sadly, I feel the offense shares the majority of the blame for the last two losses due to lack of productivity and not protecting the far too many three and outs...dropped passes...turnovers..etc.
    The defense has kept us in the games, but we need more from the offense. Is replacing Hanie a wise move, I don't know if that'd be enough if you don't get the rest of the offense to just do their jobs.
    I'm on the Barber wagon, that guy plays with a lot of heart and is fun to watch. I think he realized when he got shoved out of bounds that he screwed up, and he was giving it his all to make up for it and it just went wrong. Shit happens.
    Towards the end of the 4th quarter the defense had to be getting gassed man...they were on the field a lot of the time Sun. Far too many 3 and outs was the cause.

  • I don't think Flynn is as great as everyone would like to believe either. His arm strength is poor, and therefore he has a low ceiling.

    Jeff, you're absolutely right when you emphasize the fact that the depth at Quarterback position is different from anywhere else. You can't possibly have solid depth at the QB position because quality quarterbacks are so scarce that it's impossible to afford to have two of them on the same team. When you're QB goes down, you're almost always pretty fucked. QB injuries have derailed a lot of teams (Indy) but there are plenty of instances where other teams have survived (Texans, '08 Pats).

    No one was asking Angelo to get a backup QB who can beat the Saints in New Orleans, but it's not unreasonable to ask him to find a backup QB who can beat the Chiefs at Soldier Field (who were also playing with THEIR backup QB).

    Cutler is a good quarterback, but I don't think he's as good as you want to believe he is. Caleb Hanie is lousy, but he's not as bad as you think he is. You're upset, and you have reason to be. Cutler has put the team on his back and won games for the Bears, but the Bears have won games without Cutler, and even some despite Cutler. The 2011 Texans are built in a somewhat similar fashion (at least superficially) to the 2005-2011 Bears (Run heavy offense, and highly ranked defense). The Texans are on their third string quarterback, and have suffered more significant injuries than even the 2010 Packers. I honestly feel like the Bears are a team that can survive a quarterback injury. You inferred this sentiment with your first blog post following the injury news. All they needed was a caretaker to win 2 or 3 games from an incredible soft 6 game stretch. They've played against a turnover prone, old QB who was a has-been even before he sat on the couch for 10 months, a left handed running back who threw 40 passes, and Tyler Palko. You're telling me that the Chicago Brass can't be expected to find someone, ANYONE, who can take the Bears' supporting cast and beat these guys?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jake Locker. John Skelton. T.J. Yates. Joe Webb. It's not too much to ask to have one of those on your roster. If you haven't prepared for the eventuality of your #1 going down then you haven't prepared at all.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    The thing about the Bears is, they NEED a QB like Cutler. Our receivers can't get open, and our linemen can't hold the pocket. So without Cutler, it all falls apart.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    ...aaaaaand who's fault is thaaaaat?????

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's debatable. But not by me. I don't know enough about college football prospects and non-Bear players to evaluate Angela's choices. Obviously, many of our guys aren't good enough. What were our alternatives, how would they have panned out? I just can't say.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i just remember
    a few years back
    in philly
    when mcnabb went down
    who was that
    whoever it was
    he was admirable
    was he a pickup
    or a backup?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Well it's like I said...I don't really see taking Hanie out will gain much if anything if the rest of the shit continues. The offense (what's left of it) needs to step up bigtime! If they do their job..protect the aware of what is going on around them...receivers catch the fucking ball or at least fight for it, we could pull out a W. Haine also needs to make better decisions, which the more he plays the better he'll get. But he face the same shit Cutty was going through as far as sacks last week. 7 times?
    Also at the end of the 4th quarter Tebow was getting a lot of time in the pocket, and given that a QB will find someone open.

  • I'd just like to point out the Fan Confidence Index is all the way back to +7...which is pretty impressive given we were at a +1 to start the week.

    There's plenty of room on the bandwagon, fellas!
    Hanie-train to the playoffs - choo choo! Next stop, Seattle!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm in
    always have been
    'tis the season
    me and shi just
    "the polar express"
    the conductor
    punched the kid's ticket
    on the ride home
    hell and be-el-zee-bub
    I know about loss
    and how it can come
    in all manner of forms
    good god almighty
    Cub losses come more often
    than the patrons
    in a two fer one at the chicken ranch

    c'mon boys
    bucker up
    we have seen the strange
    and bizzare
    turn our season
    into a nightmare
    maybe underneath the mask
    that this 2am looker
    has been wearing
    for the last 4 weeks
    is a beautiful

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    lol, now that was a good analogy, hunti. Thanks for that!

  • Speaking of quarterback depth, let's talk about the 2007 Chicago Bears.


    That's a pretty darn good example of a deep QB slate.

    And yet - we went 7-9.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's great QB depth, with a terrible starting QB.

    That's exactly what you would hope for from a backup QB: hovering around .500.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Which one are you calling a terrible starting QB?
    Other than Grossman?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Many terrible is too strong. Poor starting quarterbacks. I'd say all three of those guys are at least "poor" starting quarterbacks. Now that all depends on your expectations of course. But I think all three of those quarterbacks were consistently in the bottom 16 (among starting QBs) of the NFL at almost all times during their careers. Maybe I'm wrong though.

    AKA Kyle Orton is not good. I'm sorry, but it's true.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Griese actually might have been okay in the early 2000's, but he was a lemon by the time he wound up in Chicago

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    All three were fair to mediocre in 2007. Not great, not terrible. But given we had absolutely no rushing offense that year....
    Ced Benson had a YPC of 3.4 that year with 4 tds and 3 fumbles lost.
    So, three guys that shouldn't have been slinging it down field had about zero reason not to.

    Orton really can be a nice backup. It's a shame he's going to be wasted on the Chiefs. Hopefully, they want to roll with Palko next year or draft RGIII and let us have Orton back in the offseason.

    Griese couldn't stay healthy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, I was happy with Orton and Griese, they didn't lsoe games. Not keeping Griese was a mind-blower for me, he's the epitome of a good backup QB for me.

  • This MB30SD vs. Jeff Hughes debate is the best thing on this site in weeks. Jeff, call out more of your comment-makers!

  • In reply to Perno:

    I'm calling you out. Stop being a robot sycophant.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you want a piece of me?

    I'll ask Max how to set up a cyber-fight next time he rolls in with one of his insightful, "Bears still suck" comments.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the bears still suck dude

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    it's ok man... it's cool that you're here adding value man. You don't have to say that.

    Like going to a gay bar with a bunch of hot chicks and every once in a while saying really loudly how hot you think so and so chick is just to make sure everyone knows you're the straight guy in the bar.

    Totally human nature. You get a pass.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So... Da Bears Blog is the gay bar in your analogy. The Packer is the guy with all the hot chicks.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    Uh, I think you have a point. WTF MB30.
    You get -3000 pts. for an analogy that basically called us all gay...not that there's anything wrong with that. But c'mon!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Had to look up sycophant, I'm not gaining any advantage by acting obsequiously...perhaps you meant "stop being awesome". I can try but no guarantees.

    I think your argument on not having a great backup to Cutler is flawed, but you also make some decent points that actually support Jeff's. Most of us thought Hanie would be a decent backup after his preseason and NFC Championship performances, myself included. Turns out the guy sucks at being a QB, what can you do? No GM could have been ready for losing their #1 QB and #1 RB, and any of them that happened to be caught lightning in a bottle.

  • In reply to Perno:

    Ha! Stop being awesome indeed.

  • For the record Jeff,

    I don't think Jerry Angelo is as awful as people (ahem, mb30sd) think he is either. I think the criticisms he takes are fair, but I also think that he's not given the praise he deserves when he strikes gold either (when a player he brings in is great, the fans just fall in love with the player. When a player he brings in is lousy, the fans just throw stones at Angelo for bringing him in).

    However, Angelo deserves to be criticized for this three game losing streak. He has not provided satisfactory depth to the organization, and it is an indictment on him as a talent scout. MB30SD has been clamoring for Angelo to kick rocks for years. Some stretches of games provide validity for his argument, and other stretches detract from it. However, over the last 3 weeks, "Point: MB30SD".

    You want to know why the Packers have been great since Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson ran the show?

    "They got lucky struck gold with two Hall of Fame quarterbacks?"

    Not entirely. This isn't an Indy situation where they lucked into a no-brainer future HOFer. The Packers have taken the quarterback position extremely seriously over the last 20 years. Wolf traded for Favre (a second rounder) in 1992. The Majik man went down and - Poof! - enter Wally Pipp. You know who Favre's backups were over his 17 year career? Ty Detmer, Matt Hasselback, Mark Brunnell, Steve Bono, and Aaron Rodgers. I believe they even had Kurt Warner on the practice squad before he went to St Louis.

    Green Bay GMs traded for their first superstar QB, drafted their 2nd superstar before their first was ready to go, and had future NFL starting QBs waiting in the wings in case of an emergency. And let's not forget that Rodger's came out of California looking like he does now. Rodgers he owes a lot of his success to the QB development program that has been a leader in the NFL over the last 20 years. The GMs' prioritization of the QB position is the reason why the Packers are on top, and everyone else is playing for 2nd. There is almost no way that Favre or Rodgers ever suit up in Green Bay without Ron Wolf and Ted Thompson.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    ** Rodgers DID NOT come out of California...."

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    The bigger point is you didn't have to address the QB position for the 17 years that Favre was on the Packers.
    That is a luxury that very, very, very few teams ever have.
    Rodgers then had the luxury of taking many practice snaps, with the same coaching staff and no pressure, that most backup QBs don't get, because ol' Favre didn't like to practice. I'm not sure that means your organization has a great developmental program other than having had Favre in place for almost two decades is a credit to Wolf for taking a flyer on a pill popper in 1992.

    Rodgers was a consensus early first round pick in 2005 - had he not been a dick in pre-draft interviews, do you really think he would have lasted that long in the green room?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He also wouldn't have lasted that long in the green room if Jerry Angelo didn't elect to go with Cedric Benson instead, and grab Kyle Orton the next day.


  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Ced just grew up behind the curve...I've already stated Angelo should have passed him up when it was clear he was a fucking head case. 23 other teams thought Rodgers was a bigger asshole than Ced Benson. What does that tell you?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Gold? What Gold? Kyle Orton got us Cutler, not Jerry Angelo. Cash money and Lovie and Rod Maranelli got us Peppers. Wher's the gold?

  • Here is my point in a nutshell (like the regs don't know).

    JA might not be the worst GM in the NFL, but a franchise like the Chicago Bears deserves a top guy. We should be in the hunt every year. We are not the browns or bungles who gets a shot every 2-6 years.

    We are one of the oldest teams in the league with one of the most storied past, we deserve better than mediocre at every level.

    Is that unrealistic and silly of me to want… seems so… but if I didn’t I might as well switch to being a seahawks or charger fan. I refuse to do so, and I refuse to want anything but the top for my bears. We can do better than Jerry Angelo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Bears deserve a better ownership group too, but that'll never happen. The Bears were MUCH better than mediocre up until 2 freak injuries occurred to their 2 best offensive players. That's all I'm saying. We all love the Bears, even the robot sycophants among us.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Trust fund babies MB. As long as you have country club types running the Bears instead of a Football family, the Bears will NEVER be an organization that wins consistently like the Steelers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nail on the head MB. We deserve better, most teams don't.
    Makes me want to puke that the Colts go from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck, and most likely getting two 1sts for Manning if they do the smart thing.

  • If you look at the shit show the Bears organization was post-Ditka from '92 to about 2000; it makes Angelo look not so shabby.
    3 division titles, 1 NFC championship, 1 SB appearance during his reign is pretty impressive when compared to other teams around the league.

    I am in no way an Angelo apologist, but just remember how it was for almost a decade after da coach departed.

    I remember and it wasn't pretty.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Mainly because of Jimmy's king doofus here:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And then there was this dynamic duo:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oh, and the whole Shoop era thing - which was pure brutal.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Actually, no. I don't remember much anything from those years. That whole decade is a blur.

  • The last three weeks have sucked...all winnable games, with the last two being surreal losses.
    Three weeks ago I never would have thought I'd be reading about the merits of JA already with four games left. This SUCKS, even though it's been a good debate.

  • FF 2 the one minute mark: BWA-HAHAHAHA

  • In reply to gpldan:

    go spider-monkeys

  • JA's track record over the last 6 years include: 3 divisional round playoff games, 2 trips to the NFC championship, and one trip to the Super Bowl.

    In 08 we lost to the Houston Texans in the final game of the season and were dissqualified from playoff contention. Safe to say this year we are again on the cusp.

    Making the playoffs is the goal of every team in this league. The league rewards failure (see draft order) in order to maintain a competitive balance. We are competitive because of the roster JA has put together.

    We are not as good a football team without the franchise QB JA landed as we are with him.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Even in 2007, the 7-9 year, we weren't eliminated from the playoffs until week 16.
    And in 2009, the Bears released Mike Brown, so we knew we were screwed that year.

    I agree with Viva.

  • In reply to Viva:

    I get it, but it's not good enough. We need another lombardi man. Playoffs are only a means to an end.

  • In reply to Viva:

    JA's 10 year track record also includes zero Lombardis. It's been 25 years, that's way too long.

  • VERY entertaining boys and girls!

  • James Harrison suspended for a game for insisting on playing "Goonball'.

    Good. VERY good. Screw you, James Harrison.


    Whoever cleared Colt McCoy to go back into that game after Harrison blasted him should be fired.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I remember playing legion ball
    fielding a groundball between 1st and 2nd
    seeing the pitcher still on the mound
    I headed for a massive collision at 1st
    but didn't know it
    back in the '60s
    you just compaired it
    to your last acid trip
    if 3 fingers looked like
    less than 5
    you were good to go

    next at bat
    told my friend the catcher
    "I still can't see the ball
    keep it on the outer half"
    took 4
    "high" and wide
    after a couple a walks
    I got to third
    once there
    I asked my freind
    the 3rd base-man
    "tell me when to run
    I still can't see the ball"

    I trotted home
    on a gapper to right

    maybe now you know
    why I make no sense

  • The real question now is...with what small window of oppurtunity left to get into the playoffs, is what's left of the team hungry enough to get the job done? From what we've seen so far, they have not been given the easier route....but have been forced to do it the hard way.

  • Since this is the thread where everyone is sorry - I guess I should be sorry I compared Cam Newton to Jamarcus Russell.

    Clearly, the kid is not a bust.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I thought the same thing about Cam Newton.
    I was wrong about Peppers too. I thought the Bears paid way too much for him. Clearly I didn't see him play enough and based my decision on statistics. Al, what you got to say about that?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Thanks for asking, Fifth.

    I too, completely WIFFED on Newton but I HAD seen Peppers single-handedly destroy the Cardinals (with Kurt Warner at QB) one Sunday afternoon and was ECSTATIC that the Bears were so proactive in getting him and leaving all of the so-called "NFL Insiders" with egg on their face because not a one of them had Peppers going to Chicago.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I thought neutron was special
    did you see my buddy guy song
    I posted a while back
    in reference to pepp
    You told me to get the disc
    skinn deep
    what do you think
    "out in the woods"

  • In reply to huntinbare:

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I think Skin Deep is his best album since Stone Cold Crazy.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Robert Randolph is awesome in that song too. I want to see him in concert, but it hasn't worked out the last few times he was in my area.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    but it was so good. One of my favorite posts of all time GP...

    "...but if you rearange the letters in Cam Newton, it spells Jamarcus Russell"

    Sheer genius I say!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think youre more likely to get an appology out of Larry Flint than you are of every getting an "I'm sorry" from me. lol

  • A plea deal is shit. 10 years is shit. GJ could preclude any victim cross-examination, and the DA better fucking go for 30. I want that shriveled heap to die in the can, nowhere else.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If Sandusky is out in 10, there will be people waiting for him at the gate.

  • You have got to wait till the 4:40 mark (or just forward to it)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He he he!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I loved the parents who told their kids they ate all their halloween candy. That one fat kid at 2:30 is pissed!! I bet that punch at the wall is the most exercise he's gotten all year.

  • This brought back horrible memories... My parents used to eat my halloween candy.


    Marijuana is a helluva drug.

  • Sorry MB but Jeff's right. Although I don't always agree with Jerry for the draft picks he's made, he did get us the best QB in the NFL and he got us the best man to stop our opponents QBs.  In this league that's what matters. At least he got the Bear Jew and got lucky with Paea & Conte this year. Any other GM do better? Besides you in Madden? In Sunny SD? 

  • In reply to Tincup SCV:

    I have no idea who you are but your ridiculous statement of "best QB in the league" made me puke in my mouth. If Jay makes it through a season in Chicago then I'll start to put him in the top 5.

  • Jay - get the adamantium skeleton surgery before Sac jumps off the bandwagon.

  • Your puke in the mouth is probably something that all you pesemisty Bears fans taste when you all give up.

  • In reply to Tincup SCV:

    Who gave up? Cutty plays in Lambeau and regardless of playoff implications we beat the Fudgers. Last year was the Packers year, ain't going to happen twice in a row on Cutty's watch. No fkn way.

  • I think he's referring to the fact that Sac thinks Jay blows goats because he got injured.

  • In reply to Tincup SCV:

    Got lucky with Paea? He cost us Mikel Leshoure and is just a big pair of tits.

  • Oh for fuck sake, Irish, I'm an Illini fan and I don't know how you're coming up with that.
    Leshoure hasn't played a goddamn snap this year!!!!

    And btw, I know you didn't notice this, but Paea had two sacks last week?

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph - give that one a rest.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    BTW, since your infatuation with Moobs Asiata, you shouldn't be calling out Paea for his man-tits.
    Asiata had much bigger titties.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Asiata .... and Lance Louis. But we were suffering an overdose of Omelette and Webb at the time. We're still suffering Webb, and now Garza, and strangely ... .Lance Louis. What's up with Lance?

  • Yes, the mystery of Lance Louis baffles us all.
    I wonder if coordinators just figured him out after getting enough tape on him. Cutler's ability to step up in the pocket and escape pressure also may have masked some of his problems in pass protection.

    I wish we knew.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    For shits and giggles, you wouldn't rather have Leshoure on the squad? I know Marion's lost a few fans (not me curiously, I'd rather have him than not). Paea might turn out okay, but we have DTs up the kazoo. Another Forte would be nice, precisely for the situation we find ourselves in.

    A Ryan Mallet or a John Moffit, even?

  • I would rather have a franchise guard than either one, yes.

    We're not strapped at running back, despite Barber having some sort of mini-stroke in the 4th quarter vs. the Broncos.

    Paea may pan out. The two sack game is at least proof that he has some potential, although they looked more like a consequence of pressure by the ends forcing Tebow to attempt to escape up the middle. I could be misremembering things.

    The Lions certainly would have been better off drafting for their secondary as it turns out.

  • In reply to Tincup SCV:

    Nah. Orton got us Cutty. All Jerry had to go was go out and get the guy Cutty had been throwing the ball to 100+ times a season and the single-game reception record holder, who Josh McTard couldn't wait to get rid of .. .and a couple guys to stand in front of the QB so he didn't get his block knocked off. You could teach a monkey to make those moves.

  • On a lighter note...who's ready for a playoff run!!!

  • In reply to Tincup SCV:

    the cub fans

  • Crunch - you ain't seen personal around here...I think 2009 brought out the bitch in all of us.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, I forget this is a man's blog, despite what MB said. I'm used to the political variety. Liberal or conservative, they're all the same. Sycophantic robots are welcome. Everybody else, sooner or later, becomes the main course in a pecking party. Occasionally, issues crop up that divide the readership, and they peck themselves to death.

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:
    post this on a political blog

    probrably the greatest lyric
    ever sung
    describing man's condition
    "Forlorn somnambulistic maniacal in the dark"

  • In reply to Crunch Buttsteak:

    I think we've had some doozies here, yet eventually everyone just gets drunk and moves on. I'd say we hug it out, but not really. Arguments are like assholes

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    When Olsen brought out the bitch in himself. Or should I say "the keystone of the offense", Jefe ?


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ha. That's the best political parody since Sara Palin spoke to fake Sarkozy.

  • One game at a time!! T Russel ...DEAD!! Who's with me?!?!

  • "Anybody who is using the last three games as a mean to indict the management decisions of Jerry Angelo is off-base. "

    AW COME ON !!!!

  • "Josh McCown Should Start Sunday "

    AW COME ON !!!!

    We're trying to qualify here! Now if Cutler is definitely not coming back this year (I believe he plays against Green Bay and we beat them) I would have no problem tanking the rest of the games and getting the highest available draft position for Angela to piss our picks away. If you're not in the playoffs you might as well be 0-16 from an organizational point of view.

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