Non-Cutler Thoughts from Sunday's Win Over San Diego (with a couple Cutler thoughts)

Non-Cutler Thoughts from Sunday's Win Over San Diego (with a couple Cutler thoughts)

We are not going to harp on the Jay Cutler injury around here. For the foreseeable future Caleb Hanie is the starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears and no expansive word count columns from me are going to change that. Here's what I saw Sunday.

  • I wrote about it earlier in the year and was maligned by some commenters but Nick Roach is turning into a terrific linebacker. He's no longer a placeholder, the third guy. He's a playmaker now.
  • I am hearing a lot of criticism of the fake punt Lovie called late. I guess I'm in the minority because I loved the call and the Bears had about seven open receivers on the play. I like that kind of aggressiveness with a lead. That's how championship teams act.
  • Frank Reich.
  • My MVP of the game is Tyler Clutts, one of the most underrated Jerry Angelo signings of his career. When Pat Mannelly went down for the year with a ruptured ACL, Clutts handled the long-snapping duties with ease. When long snappers go down, teams often struggle executing extra points. The Bears did not miss a beat thanks to Clutts.
  • Roy Williams is running crisp routes and catching the ball. Caleb Hanie is going to need him to continue doing so.
  • I think Mike Martz needs to start working in more pitches to Matt Forte. The offensive line is far better blocking in space than out-toughing big defensive tackles up the gut. Get Forte outside and let him make tacklers miss.
  • Henry Melton sometimes looks like he can be the best defensive tackle in the sport.
  • Jeff Hostetler.
  • I don't use pop culture references in my sportswriting because I think it's easy and Bill Simmons made his career on it. But I started hearing Lloyd Bridges in Airplane! watching Peanut Tillman cover Vincent Jackson, thinking I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue. After a week of being touted for Pro Bowl consideration, Peanut struggled mightily to stop VJ from doing anything.
  • Peanut did record one classic Peanut ball punch. I've never seen anything like Tillman's ability to force fumbles.
  • I've never seen a coach do what Norv Turner did yesterday. He wanted to challenge the Marion Barber down by contact late and instead of just challenging it, he burns a timeout. Then, AFTER the timeout, he challenged it. And lost that challenge because the play WAS NOT CLOSE. So Norv burns his last two timeouts for no conceivable reason.
  • Tom Brady.
  • Someone explain to me why any team would punt the ball to Devin Hester. I'm not writing this rhetorically, either. I need to see some data now. Because it keeps happening and Hester keeps not being tackled. Is there some moronic nerd stat that I don't know about saying teams actually benefit from kicking the ball to Hester?
  • Nice to see Corey Graham and Brandon Meriweather making contributions. Somehow I like the Bears secondary depth.
  • Aside from the falling down, Johnny Knox played an excellent game.
  • One point on Cutler's injury. I can't think of a way I'd rather see the franchise quarterback get injured. On an interception that was entirely Johnny Knox's fault, Cutler saved a touchdown with his hustle and aggressiveness. If Favre did what Cutler did, it would have been the lead story on every highlight show for a month.
  • When a safety is struggling in Lovie's defense, there is usually no deep coverage on the go route. Chris Conte is a step or two away from making big plays in the pass game. He looks quite comfortable back there.
  • The football finds Major Wright.
  • Give Chargers tackle Brandyn Dombrowski some credit. Even when he didn't have help on the outside, he played Julius Peppers well all afternoon.
  • How does Philip Rivers consider what he did "throwing the ball away"? Why would he not release the ball out of bounds? Rivers is having a terrible year and plays like that make it quite obvious his issues are not entirely physical.
  • I wanted to write about Earl Bennett but he's just a good receiver. Every week. He's becoming the most consistent wide receiver we've seen around here since Marty Booker. If you pair him with a real ten-catch-a-game #1 you will have some serious weapons on this roster.
  • It has become very apparent that Devin Hester is becoming a smaller and smaller part of what the Bears do on offense.
  • DirecTV and the NFL need to solve some things. Chargers at Bears was the national game yesterday, airing in New York on CBS 2. So this means the DirecTV channel airing the game is blacked out. Because the Bengals and Ravens game went down to the wire, we were forced to miss the first two drives of the game. I get blacking out the DirecTV feed for the local teams because local TV stays with every snap of those games. But folks pay far too much money for the NFL and DirecTV to force us to miss full drives of our favorite teams. If ALL the local networks aren't on the national game yet, you MUST free up the DirecTV channel until they are.
  • The Bears are 7-3 and a serious case can be made for them being the second best team in football when the QB is healthy. Lovie says he expects Cutler back before the end of the regular season. I may be crazy but I think he'll play Christmas night in Green Bay. The Bears need to grind out victories now and put themselves in the postseason. It seems Jay Cutler's toughness is so often the talking point around Halas Hall. Now the toughness of the other fifty-two men on the roster is the story.

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  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Did you have to prove it by linking to the column? What happened there?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Gnome code. I know not.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Jimmy believes in throwing random bits at the site to see what sticks, I think.

  • Some random thoughts on Non-Cutler Thoughts from Sunday's Win Over San Diego (with a couple Cutler thoughts) :

    Loved the fake punt call, balls on Lovie. I'm not putting Podlesh in for Cutty though.

    Frank Reich ... vague images of a Buffalo Bill .....? Either that or his brother Third, who was a bad-ass during Hitler's European Tour.

    MVP - Jay "I am a bona fide stud and I'll wear this sweater if I fucking want to" Cutler

    Hester - I just remember some fool on SD's ST jawing with Hester after he was run towards the sideline and y'know, didn't run it all the way back for once. What a jism. And after Hester got banged up on offense - we should be reducing his role there, he's the GOAT return man, not Jerry Rice. Treat him accordingly.

    Duke of Oil !

    Another point on Cutler's injury. Johnny Knox CANNOT RUN ROUTES TO SAVE HIS LIFE !! Yes he made some sick catches ... he often does ... yes he's super fast ..... and I seem to be alone on this one ... but I'm watching you Johnny, I see it. He is indirectly responsible for Cutler's injury. It could hav been any other receiver and the same thing would have happened? But it wasn't. It was JK fucking up another route, leaning into it before his hips were there. A retarded route. He's a deep ball route one guy, let's stop trying to make him Wes Welker, for the love of my QB and all that is holy.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2011/7/11/15/enhanced-buzz-5832-1310411994-40.jpg

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I made that point about Hester yesterday, glad some other people agree. They need to limit him to occasional use out of the slot, and that's it on offense. I'd also trade 3 #1s for the rights to draft Justin Blackmon.

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    In reply to ChiRy:

    Stop, you can't be serious.

  • I love that very last comment Jeff. This is where the mettle of the *team* gets tested. And somehow, I don't think it will be found lacking.

  • In 2010 we could not convert on 3rd and 4th and short. In the 2011 offseason the brain trust fixed it: Added Marion Barber, Matt Spaeth, Tyler Clutts, subtracted Manu and Olsen.

    The result: more time of possession, better field position, better yards per carry, and more touchdowns in lieu of field goals. That strategy is paying off.

    Rule # 1 in Marine Corps Infantry: Be as violent as humanly possible on the objective. (Also known as: do'nt be a pussy at the point of attack.) I love the fake attempt. Good decision, bad execution. What did it accomplish - we'll see the next time a team needs to block a punt to set up field position....

  • In reply to Viva:

    Re: your take on the fake

    PRECISELY.

    we'll see the next time a team needs to block a punt...

    Especially with a new LS, this is critical: slowing down the rush is an unmitigated GOOD THING. Not to mention that now opposing ST coaches will have to spend time & reps in practice not just trying to figure out how to contain #23, but preparing for possible fakes.

  • YES!

  • Irish please give it a rest about Knox. It just makes you look foolish. Did you ever consider the Park District might be just as at fault? It's not like the footing at Soldier Field is the best in the league. We get it, you don't like Knox. At some point you sound like a brain addled Packer troll.

    Still not getting the love for Roach. He's playing better every week but he's still not at the level of a healthy Pisa. Henry Melton? One or two good plays and a lot of Houdini. I'm not trying to grind on Henry but I just don't see the best DT in the sport.

    Loved the fake punt, hated the execution.

    Totally agree about the Favre comment. Same applies for the following QB's; Brady, Manning (x2), Brees, Rivers, Ryan, Flacco, Rodgers, Romo, Big Ben, Newton, Sanchez and Stafford.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    And Schaub

    And Vick

    And Kolb

    And Bradford

    And Alex Smith

    And Grossman

    And Fitzpatrick

    And let us not forget...

    TEBOW.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    all hail Tebus! I have a tebowner!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Shouldn't you be taking something for that?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "If it lasts more than 4 hours...."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nice one Al.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Yeah, no kidding. It's just depressing sometimes. The media treats Cutler like the red-headed stepchild because he doesn't hide his contempt for the fuckwads. He's actually trying to be better with local press.

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    In reply to CanadaBear:

    A health Pisa is like a sasquatch or loch ness monster appearance. With that said, it's nice to see Roach stepping up. I think the point I've been reading about Melton, is that "sometimes" he looks like one of the best DTs in the league. Where does he go the rest of the time?

  • The medical expert the 4-Letter folks used said

    "Six weeks, minimum..." recovery time for Cutler.

    It's a displaced fracture. They put a pin in there. Ouch.

    Not to mention 6 weeks of rust buiild-up that will need to be shaken off.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Actually it's all speculation still. Some of those doctors are assuming a displaced/unstable fracture because of the fact they are doing surgery.

    But this guy says that it's possible that it is stable, and they are only doing surgery in order to accelerate the healing timetable. Bottom line is that until we have more info, nobody except his real doctors and the team really knows...

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/21/doctor-cutler-could-go-back-to-playing-in-6-weeks-or-fewer/

  • In reply to Michael L:

    The 4-Letter folks, SPECULATING?"

    Go figure.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Apparently they key word is "Surgery" and use a a pin for repair does not imply it will take longer to recover.

    "Use of hardware to fix the hand doesn't imply anything better or worse,'' Dr. Benson said. "There could be injuries just as severe that don't need hardware. Use of hardware itself doesn't tell me a whole lot other than it might be one of those injuries that takes a month, a month and a half to recover from.'' -Trib 11/22/11

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yep. Let's wait for more hard info (if the Bears reveal it even, which they might not), and just hope that the injury has the potential for a short recovery time...

  • I'm definitely a bit worried about the QB situation now, as we all should be. Is it me or does "Caleb Hanie" sound a bit too much like a name found on the Bears-starting-QB's-since-Favre lists they used to show every damn game.

    With that said, I think Caleb can handle the offense if he shows the same tenacity and accuracy as he did in last year's NFC Champ Game.

    One last, is anyone else completely impressed with Gronkowski? How in the hell is that guy not a Bear???

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    "Caleb Hanie" Sounds like an extra meaty shit. "Sorry I was in the bathroom so long, I was pushing out a hearty caleb hanie

  • -1.

    That's an image I didn't need.

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    He is a beast.

  • In reply to NY Bears Fan:

    was beastlier with the 'stache. it's science.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    I want to grow a ryan fitzpatrick grizzley bear sooo badly right now... but I'm afraid I'll start sucking at work.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    grow the beard. your performance won't decline until you get a raise/promotion.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    great point... and I don't see that happening so I should be good.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    btw, did you see how I did that?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh. i seen it! grizzly bear instead of a grizzly beard.

    and if that's not what you're talking about, then clearly no. no i did not see how you did that.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    sad.

    If I start being like fitzpatrick... I will start sucking.

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    Hanie is playing to be a starter somewhere else next year. I say he comes out fierce and firing on all cylinders. The thought of 6 zero's is a powerful motivator.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    very true

  • Top Ten List for "Green Acres" (Mr. Haney):

    1) He's not Todd Collins.

    2) He's survived almost 2 seasons under Mike Martz. I believe
    this qualifies for "That which does not kill you makes
    you stronger".

    3) He's not Todd Collins.

    4) He IS more mobile than the Statue of Liberty. A lot more.

    5) He's not Todd Collins.

    6) He had at least SOME Packer fans soiling themselves late in the
    NFC Championship game last year.

    7) He's not Todd Collins.

    8) He's working behind a better offensive line since his last extended
    stint.

    9) He's not Todd Collins.

    10) Did I mention he's NOT Todd Collins?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Love the list. You could insert a lot of different names besides Todd Collins. After about 10-15 names it gets really depressing.

  • Hated the fake punt call.

    There's a time and place for everything and the risk /reward analysis would have said "No".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I get your point Al but if they're going to give it to you ... I think it's a good thing to put out there. It gives teams one more thing to worry about.

    I am really happy Rivers made it a moot point. Watching him fall apart in crunch time was beyond sweet.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    i just wish it worked. so far, toub has made 2 great special team calls this year that were for naught - the knox punt return wiped out by the bowman hold, and this dagger play that didn't work.

    though, to be fair, this fake punt not working was karma for the eagles botching the shit out of their wide-open fake punt.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    Totally agree on the Karma thing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    karma schmarma
    stop abusin' that word

    the reason the pass didn't work
    podlesh has not practiced throwing passes enough
    great call
    perfect defensive reaction to throw it
    but, he needed to throw it 200-300 times before
    trying it in a game
    he had no touch
    sh-t he didn't even need to lead him
    if the reciever just stopped at the first down yardage and turned around
    it was so poorly covered
    he could have caught the ball and still picked up 20-30 more yards
    I do not know why passing isn't part of a punters daily routine
    30-40-reps on short routes = first down in game

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I disagree. The risk/reward analysis I think is actually quite compelling.

    A success ends the game right there. A failure results in roughly 20 yards of less field position for the Chargers to get a TD + 2 pt conversion + FG to tie the game -- barely any difference.

    Now a fake punt could have a catastrophic failure, so you have to choose carefully the type -- and what Toub ran has close to zero chance of one. OTOH a punt has a chance of a catastrophic failure too (a TD or big return)... and arguably it is higher than for the fake. Particularly if you also take into account Clutts's first punt long snap in a game ever, and secondly that the Chargers are likely to sell out for a punt block in this situation. Here asking Podlesh to catch and throw a ball only a Bear can catch is less likely to have something go wrong than trying to get a short punt off if the long snap is off the mark.

    When the situation came up, I wanted a fake and called for one. I was mildly surprised but very pleased that they dialed up the perfect type of fake for that situation. The aggressive message that it sends out to me was gravy. It's the right call even by the numbers IMHO...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I agree completely with this analysis, particularly since you pointed out that Clutts' snap was an unknown quantity going into that play.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    A) That 20 yards is HUGE considering the Chargers had frittered away all of their timeouts.

    B) Clutts HAD already snapped for 2 place kicks without wetting his pants.

    C) The failure to execute gave the Chargers a punchers' chance at midfield .

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Another thing the fake punt showed was Lovie's and Toub's 100% confidence in the D. That is also very important, especially when the D delivers.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    A) The Chargers were down 11; 20 yards closer to the first score they'd need to make it a game is meaningless--especially when Rivers-to-VJ was eating up 20 yards per catch earlier in the game. Defense in "prevent" means this is one or maybe two plays' difference--20 seconds, maybe.

    B) I have no opinion on Clutts' snapping for a fake vs. a real punt.

    C) Again, 20 yards' difference in a two-score game is meaningless, especially if you're talking about an offense that can eat 20 yards in one play against a prevent. Now, had you argued something about momentum, sure, I'd grant you that. But bottom line: a 60-yard drive isn't that much easier than an 80-yard drive, especially when you need to do more than score just once.

    And, as everyone has pointed out, success on the fake means that the game is over, period.

    Punting the ball leads to three potential outcomes:
    1) Punt is blocked, with a big swing in momentum and possibly a return for a score. Chances of that actually happening are pretty low, but not worse than 5%--especially considering the turnover on ST lately (losing a starting O-lineman, having your up-back now snapping, etc.).
    2) Big punt return, potentially for a score. That returner SD had was taking risks and making good yardage. Chances are good that if he gets a returnable ball, he's getting a lot of yardage.
    3) Podlesh gets a good kick and coverage downs it deep in Charger territory. This is hard to pull off, especially with an all-out rush.
    4) Podlesh kicks the ball out of bounds, into the endzone, or high enough that the returner can't get a good return... but the best-case scenario is netting 20-25 yards.

    I'd say the odds of a regular punt turning into a "bad" result (block or big return) were maybe 10%; the odds of a "good" result (pinning SD inside the 20) probably about the same, with the odds favoring a 20-25 yard net gain. With the fake, as long as Podlesh didn't do anything stupid with the ball, the odds of it working were high (you just don't run the fake if all the receiver options are covered), maybe 30%. The odds of a catastrophic failure (INT or fumble leading to big SD yards) were very low, maybe 2%. The odds favor the actual result: no gain, with a net "loss" of 20-25 yards compared to a punt.

    But ultimately, since an actual punt had a MUCH higher chance of a catastrophic result than the fake had, playing it "safe" means actually running the fake.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    20 yards is 1 play on a defense protecting the big play. If that pass is 6 inches shorter, the game is over.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    ..and if your aunt had a pair she'd be your uncle.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    +1.

    As always, great analysis Michael.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    -1. I respectfully disagree.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    ha!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I get that Al. Difference of opinion makes a horse race.

    I think you make good points but feel the scale tips in favor of the fake punt.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    +1

    Excellent argument. The odds & probability make it a great call.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Of course, you realize that 0.416 of all probability estimates are made up on the spot.

    But I still love the call, especially for the reasons in IBN&O's response to Viva early in this thread.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I loved it, but they might have been better off breaking it out when it had more upside. I love the killer instinct of it though. If it works, games over. Late in the game, you can play defense with your offense too. It just requires you to be aggressive, which I never have a problem with.

  • With regards to "DirecTV and the NFL need to solve some things." Holy shit I was angry when I couldn't see the first part of the game. This is the second or third time it has happened this year. It is even more annoying after you think about the cost of the service. Also, if you are paying for the mobile solution and you were out and about you would be unable to see the game due to it being blacked out.

  • In reply to NY Bears Fan:

    DirecTV and NFL Sunday Ticket is ridiculous (and not in the Devin Hester way).

    I can't imagine paying all that money just to watch Bears games. If I was a guy who wanted to (and could) watch loads of games every weekend, maybe. But even in a loopy NFL market like central Ohio, I get to watch at least 4 Bears games a year, and sometimes as many as 6. So buying NFL Sunday Ticket would mean paying ~$300 for 10-12 Bears games.

    I'd rather go to a pay-per-view system: I'll pay $10-15 for a Bears game, from opening kickoff to final gun. No worries about local stations being moronic with programming choices, or with early games running long, or switching away from blowouts, etc.

    Someone at the NFL must realize that they'd make a mint on this system, because schlubs who can't/won't shell out the $$$ for satellite or NFLST, would gladly pay 1/3 the price for one game a week.

  • I'm sure they have done the market research, & calculated the most profitable solution.

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    In reply to NY Bears Fan:

    Yes. A big giant steaming pale of crap to DirecTV and the NFL. I have DirecTV for one reason and one reason only. That is to see our Bears.

    In desperation, the last time this happened, I went clicking around. Channel 702 (the one showing all of the previews) will still have the live feed, although it is on screen with 8 other games. If you are able to highlight the game with your remote, you will get the audio. Sucks, but better than nothing. Something that made this even worse, the local station went to a full ^#&%$# slate of commercials after the previous game had ended AND after they showed postgame handshakes and players milling around the field.

  • Great Post Jefe.

    Yes, Jeff Hostetler.

    Also on the question of why teams keep kicking to Hester. Can we add to that the following: Why do our return guys keep committing stupid penalties when idiots DO kick to Hester. If a Hester has the ball, for Tebus's sake, DON'T FUCKING HOLD!

    The latest in the long line of Cutler Bashing: Mike Green (Mike & Mike) calling out Cutler for tackling the interceptor on the broken thumb play because it endangers him for the rest of the season. WTF? Can you imagine how they would of crucified him if he hadn't tried to tackle the guy? Cutler is the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL. Thankfully, Mike Golic, the one who actually knows a thing or two about football, set him straight. Idiot.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Perhaps the best solution is to just not listen to tools like that?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Agreed. Just mentioning it because it's clear Cutty can't win with the popular opinion for some reason.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Golic needs 13 mirrors and a pulley system to locate his penis.

  • You know Coach, I do have this goal about never getting fat enough where I can't see my dick at a urinal. So far, so good.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    If a debate was a war, Mike Greenberg would be France.

  • If there ever was a time to choose when Cutler would fracture his thumb this year it would be now; at 7-3, with the AFC puss schedule coming up and a chance for him to return for the playoffs.

    Hanie could bring back the Todd Collins NFC Championship hate if he does decently. Thrown right in Martz's kisser.

    Hanie can move, throws well rolling out and on the run and seems pretty durable.

    3 wins and we're in.

    Team ball from here on out.

    I ain't scurred.

    This Bears team is so much more likable than last years crazy ass shit show of a team.

  • In reply to Crown:

    With you Crown. Mainly because the o-line is way better than last year.

  • I had a point by point ready for postgame, then we all found out about cutty and I erased it. So here’s some thoughts:

    • Nick Roach is not a ‘terrific’ linebacker. And he's not a playmaker now – He’s a solid third guy behind two superstars. As dave(?) said, pisa is a much bigger playmaker. That said, he IS getting better and he had a great game.

    • Fake punt was awesome, BUT you have to execute those maing. Toub will only be seen as great if the players execute on his brilliant calls… without that, it’s just coulda, shoulda, woulda.

    • Irish, nothing about the 3rd reich was ‘bad-ass’… were you the leader or just a participant of that hitler parade in Thailand? Fucking anti-Semite

    • Said it last thread when someone (irish?) was worried about mannelley… clutts came in and snapped it perfectly 3-5 times (didn’t count). Dude is a stud. Btw, I HIGHLY doubt clutts was angelo’s idea. Sheesh.

    • I don’t know about crisp routes and rwilliams in the same sentence, but he is making some clutch catches.

    • Agree 100% on the pitches outside… and while we’re on the subject what in thee fuck happened to our brilliant screen game? We need 5-7 of them a game not 0-2.

    • And sometimes henry melton completely fucking disappears… it’s called terrible inconsistency, and it’s a great recipe for losing your job in the NFL… ask mark anderson or alex brown.

    • He looked spent and run down. Like he was the one who had a trap game… oh, and Vjax is a fucking stud. On a couple of those throws/catches anmadi AND revis couldn’t have defended.

    • That challenge was SO lovie. Classic.

    • The only thing I can figure is that directional punting is REALLY hard, and sometimes it just goes straight.

    • Cory graham is a fucking STUUUD. That kid just makes plays anywhere he is… AND we get moore back next week.

    • Despite Irish’s hate campaign, I’ve advocated that knox be in the game as much as possible. The guy is a GOOD deep/outside speed threat receiver and should ONLY be used as such. He’s terrible inside… but that’s what we have Earl for.

    • He’s a tough motherfucker. He is the ONLY QB I can see putting in that much effort besides (I hate to say this, but have to) rodgers. Remember rodgers laid-out to tackle (and save ) lach’s pick-6 in the champeenshop game last year. Besides the fact that I blame lach for not kicking his fucking ass and tripping like a little girl on a play that could have won the game for us. Did you see what stafford did on most of his pick 6s… just stood there complaining like the little bitch he is.

    • I think it will be a miracle to get jay back for the packer game… if we do though AND Haney has/is doing well… if and ONLY if he’s doing well, we may want to start haney instead of a sore and rusty cutty (depending on the implications of that game). Just a thought.

    • btw, saw terrible bosses last night... awesome movie. My GOD janniston is smoking fucking hot at 40+. Just wow. I was so impressed. Wish I had that as a boss when I was 20.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh and Irish... I was just fucking with you. Just in case you get all sensative on me. we loooooove yooooouuuu maing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ha. it only works once man.

    On the Knox thing, that's exactly what I feel, it's not hate, it's just that he should be be used sparingly as you say, 'go long Johnny', and then let other guys run the routes. Plus he's pretty good on returns in case anything happens to Hester, which seems to be the case right now.

    Yeah, saw that boss movie. Why do they make out white guys to be so pathetic around black dudes? And what red-blooded male is not going to be tongue deep in Aniston after about ten seconds of innuendo? Loved Colin Farrell in that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jen Aniston +1000 hell yeah, all sex crazed like that?

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    leaning over a passed out patient, boobs half hanging out, saying "f*ck my whore mouth"

    oscar worthy performance.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    or at the very least spank-worthy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Stafford is a big bitch. 6'5" and 235. It's a good thing his teammates came to his rescue. It's not like Stafford tried to bully the smallest guy on our roster. Oh, wait a minute, that is what he did. What a fucking tool. He really fits in with that bunch of cheapshot douchebags. Even if I was a huge Kitties fan (kill me now), I'd have a hard time liking this group. Esp their frat boy coach.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Only in a movie does a woman like Jen sexually harass you. It's like the movie myth of hot nuns. I went to Catholic school for 12 years and I've never seen a hot nun. Not even a lukewarm nun.

    BTW, I did like the movie.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    you were just on the wrong side of the boarder(s): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKn-I95xroQ

    Mejico amigo... that's where all the hot nuns are.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Stafford looks like a lesbian.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    janniston needs to date me. Especially since she has money.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Someone pointed out to me today (my son?) that when you think about it, throwing the ball 50 yards downfield to a specific spot is really pretty hard. So now imagine doing it WITH YOUR FOOT.

    If directional punting were easy, one of we talkers here on the blog would be up there doing it.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    That's true, kicking a ball is crazy hard. Sounds fun, though! Somebody should invent a sport where that's all you do. Anybody think it would catch on?

  • not in the us

  • awwwwwww... http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Anthony-Adams-leaves-a-special-message-for-sick-?urn=nfl-wp12315

  • Good or bad?
    http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2011/11/kristin-cavallari-jay-cutler-engagement-back-on.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good. Married life is a good thing for a pro athlete. Stability is good for his health (esp with the diabetes). I know she's a "Reality Star" but she doesn't seem to be a fucking loser like Lindsey, Paris or the Kardashian mob.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    And, in my humble opinion, none of the losers you mentioned are nearly as attractive as Ms. Cavalleri.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I used to think Kim K. was hot but I got over that. Kristin looks like she's running stock (as opposed to modified). Always a major plus for me.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I don't know. I've found that pussy slaying keeps one's competive edge alive on the court or field. Signed the guy that hasn't dunked since getting engaged.

  • In reply to Crown:

    was that a euphemism Crown?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, I used to be able to bi slamma jamma. The fact I haven't played in a bball league since last winter might have something to do with that. Looking forward to getting my hardwood legs back under me in a new league starting next month.

    But, dunk also equates to the "Tyson Tickler" in my book:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tyson%20tickler

  • In reply to Crown:

    Got engaged... got BACK into playing hoops... got an urge to buy every basketball shoe I ever wanted when I was in 7th grade, but my jerk parents wouldn't get me (and every pair Rose releases)

    Now it's hoops 2-3 times a week. Crossing fools over.

    So, for me... it took an engagement to remove the constant unmotivating doob from my mouth, and get my ass back on the court... That and an extra 30lbs that absolutely KILLS the shins.

    - The White DRose.

  • In reply to Crown:

    what's a nice jewish boy like you doing dunking?

  • In reply to Crown:

    How do you know all this shit, Crown?

  • In reply to Crown:

    Tiger Woods, yall.

  • In reply to Crown:

    I have almost no athletic talent so I would trade that for steady trim every day of the week.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This off-again/on again thing happens in relationships )celebrity AND non-celebrity) all the time. Weddings and wedding PLANS often make people insane.

    Eloping would be equivalent to a fake punt call here, I believe
    AND make more sense.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    he's got 6-8 weeks off to make something happen Al.

    And I agree with you that she's much hotter than those other cows.

  • As reported by @BradBiggs, Bears sign long snapper Jake Laptad to three-year deal. Also sign T Josh Davis, CB Josh Moore to practice squad.

  • earliest possible return for an injury like that is 8 weeks. Fuck.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-1122-cutler-injury--20111122,0,5801533.story

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    it's all speculation still MB. We'll see

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    true... but they got a thumb doctor from HARVARD to comment. And he's wicked-smaaaht.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFTQEeT1EDA

  • I hear Cavaliri's vagina has magic healing powers. Get in there Cutty

  • The only reason to kick to 23 is to try to injure him, otherwise it's absurd.
    Also, I'll bet Cutler doesn't play again this regular season as Lovie is always way too casual about injuries. I think The Duke can be a #1 receiver, and finally I am really excited to see Hanie under center as well. I can't wait to see what the kid can do with a whole week of REAL preparation.

  • In reply to Perno:

    Like this? (Warning - the rest of ya'll don't watch this) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTLlaMY_9PM

    A proud moment for the Fudgepackers to be sure.

    I always hated that the league ejected him for that. They should have left the motherfucker on the field. So we could have literally killed that cocksucker.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Simply fucking disgusting.

    Pathetic excuse for a human got what he deserved in the end.

    Nice that the lions have taken that baton from the packers. They'll prolly just pass it back and forth from now on.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    the lions use that tape for rookie indoctrination
    they just cut out the middle
    show the hit
    then the congratulatory high fives on the sideline

  • I agree with Warrior Waddle. Warrior! Come out and playyyy-yay!

    Hanie knows he can pull a Cardinal Kolb (similar to a Tyson Tickler, only more messy) if he plays lights out this run. The stage is set.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hopefully hanie plays the greatest 6 games in the history of history, cutty comes back and leads us to glory, then hanie pulls a berrian and signs with the vikings for shit tons more than he's worth before totally crapping the bed.

    or he goes somewhere in the afc west and has a productive career but never comes back to haunt us.

  • Remember, Hanie entered the NFC Championship game with no snaps of preperation. Collins got all the reps in practice. Caleb's performance was all free lance in that game, and he almost pulled out the unthinkable.

    Let's see what this kid can do with some practice with the 1s.

  • I'm a long time reader but a first time poster. Question for Da coaches mustache.
    Your most recent posts
    "Caleb Hanie" Sounds like an extra meaty shit. "Sorry I was in the bathroom so long, I was pushing out a hearty caleb hanie

    Golic needs 13 mirrors and a pulley system to locate his penis
    .
    I hear Cavaliri's vagina has magic healing powers. Get in there Cutty
    You ever post anything of value?
    The rest of you keep up the good work!

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    come on. you're not curious how those 13 mirrors are being positioned?

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    That is the epitome of value son.

  • In reply to Crown:

    exactly

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    -1

    We can all type out the same Bears related thoughts... Clutts is awesome, Williams caught some balls, Melton is on and off, Cutler's hurt, blah blah blah...

    The guy who can make me envision some sort of steam-punk inspired penis analyzer? Classic. Change the way I think of both Hanie and meat poops? Love it.

    Actually.

    -2

    So, should we pick up a safety this offseason,lol,go bears!bear down.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Steampunk penis. Awesome google search.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Ohhhhh... good call willie. #16 reincarnate?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Probably not... Way too good at spacing words after punctuation.

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    Long time reader and this is your first post? Did I offend your delicate sense of humor?

    You bring nothing to the table.

  • +1

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    are you fucking kidding me dude? Did you really make that your first post?

    Wow. plase keep reading... not posting.

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    Born, not to pile on but insulting a regular with your first post is not a great start. Everyone brings different things to the table. The Coach has clearly staked out his territory and I think it's safe to say the vast majority of us encourage it.

  • fb_avatar
    In reply to CanadaBear:

    Deffo.

    This place is like a slightly rumbustious and unhinged pub.
    i.e. the good kind.

    And long may it continue.

  • In reply to Born a Bear Fan:

    I think the Golic comment in particular was pretty f-cking funny.
    But thanks for playing.
    Why not make an observation on the team instead of one of the regular posters?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He's #16's brother.

  • Just a few random thoughts, your season is over!!

  • In reply to MrARodgers:

    That would count as a few thoughts for you. Well done lad.

  • In reply to MrARodgers:

    Don't give yourself a headache...

  • In reply to MrARodgers:

    Got news for you, Caleb Hanie is decent not as good as Cutler, he is a mobile quarterback he has accuracy if not for Martz on trick which made it 4th and 6 lets say we don't call that fucked play and throw a 5 yard pass which he was doing he prob ties the game in the NFC Championship. he was shredding your incredible secondary so MrARodgers if your calling caleb bad your calling your secondary bad give him props he almost gave you and other Packer fans heart attacks if you say no you're being dishonest. so great defense, great running back, decent quarterback, good speacial teams I think that makes post season. Hell he might have Packers number or maybe you guys did not prepare for him even if so give props, packers secondary was sick!! any qb who moved the ball on that defense is good so I would not be so confident we miss playoffs.

  • In reply to Sean:

    why are you trying to reason with this idiot Sean?

    You just make fun of it... just make fun (because it's easy)

    All their fans are cowards. Where were these aholes when we were moping the field with good teams… yep, nowhere to be found.

    We lose our franchise and the next day the filthy rats come out of the woodwork. Karma is indeed a bitch though... let's see how Ms. Rodgers here feels when his dick-crush takes one more of those hits he took in the tampa game trying to be a hero and ends up with his 3rd concussion in 2 years. Uhhh ohhhh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I mean the fact that he actually takes time out of his day to post here is just embarrassing for him, his family, and everyone who knows him. Seriously. I actually feel very bad for him....Im picturing a leaving las vegas style thanksgiving for this dude.

    'The long road of denial is a dark and lonely one Mr. ARodgers...the price? Your soul.'

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    karma is just a reality
    a spurned woman is a bitch

  • In reply to MrARodgers:

    which head are you using to think with?

  • A dedicated sports fan, and an amazing rack! I just may be in love.

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Coach-8217-s-wife-charged-with-illegally-changi?urn=highschool-wp8971

    Born a Bears fan, would you suck on those titties? You would motor boat them, wouldn't ya? You motor boatin sonuva bitch!

  • 5 foot 11 inches of DD delish.

  • Just for the record jeff, in Cutler's first year as a bear, in that atrocious f49ers game where he threw five picks, love smith called a time out on a greg olsen incompletion, then threw the challenge flag after conferring with olsen as to whether or not he caught it, which he appeared unsure, oh if only you could see the look on cutty's face, i think that was a game he was mic'ed up for to, stupid is as stoopid does

  • In reply to TaylorChristmas:

    are you any relation to jimminy christmas?

  • In reply to TaylorChristmas:

    Yeah, I think Jeff just started watching the Bears this year.

  • In reply to TaylorChristmas:

    The funny thing about that game was if Cutty hits someone in the endzone at the end wearing a Bear's uniform he may have been the only player to ever throw four picks in a game and get the MVP award.

  • Nutty stat of the day: This week was the first since early 2002 that a Miami Hurricane reciever did not catch an NFL TD.

    The streak would still be alive if Winslow didn't drop that gimme tuddy yesterday.

  • Hanie should fit in well with the Bears new brand of offense they have displayed during the 5 game winning streak. Run da rock, 3 to 5 steps underneath stuff and play action. Bulk up the screens to Forte and Barber.

    Our D and specials have been carrying us to wins this whole season besides maybe the chargers game, and that is still arguable.

  • the broncos have waived Kyle Orton! oh my god he's comingback

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Are you serious? HELL MOTHERFUCKIN YEAHH!!! AHHHHHH!!!!

  • In reply to Crown:

    I am serious that he was waived, not sure if the Bears have expressed interest.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    DM!

    This oughtta be interesting.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Pig Face! Sign him up!

  • We have to get him. Let him stick it in John Fox's face in a few weeks time.

  • I got on here to say the same thing. Someone go get Orton!!!

  • In reply to Artoo:

    We all agree IF the Bears did get him, he would back up Hanie...at least at first right? Guys? Right?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Yes but to have him would be the ultimate insurance.

    The guy is the game manger.

  • You guys might call me crazy but get Orton and we might have a legit chance because that man always played good at home.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I'm 100% down erik. fuck, I would kind of feel badly for Haney though... the kid deserves a shot and I just have a gut feeling that he'll be pretty damn good. Regardless, haney would have at LEAST this next game to show his shit (if we got neckbeard in the next 2-3 days - no way orton would be ready).

    If haney blows it up against the raidahs then yeah DM, he's got to keep the pole position... until/if he shits the bed it. Damn, we HAVE to make this happen.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    agree

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You sign Orton to backup Hanie, & when Cutty comes back he's 3rd string or cut, depending on if you wanna have 4 QBs. Orton doesn't know the Martz system anyways, he can't just get thrown in.

  • Orton has to clear waivers on several teams in front of Bears, particularly KC who needs a QB but their season is over. No doubt in my mind they would sign Orton if he's available. This is the perfect scenario. We'll get a chance to see what Hanie can do this weekend so it's a win/win situation if we sign him anyway you slice it. The Bears need him more than any other team. The question is.........are you ready for this MB? Is Jerra shrewd enough to pull off a deal?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    The answer, unfortunately Trac, is a proven no.

  • Wow a lot of new names on the blog as of late. Must be all the winning. I think I have expressed my opinion of bandwagon fans on numerous occasions here and dont feel I need to expand upon it; but let me just say that we've made it this far without you or your sad attempts at humor, elementary game analysis and overall lameness. Please either observe the professionals or move on children.

  • 'dis here's a pro game son

  • I may be a bandwagon blog commentator, although I think just a new blog commentator, but never have been a bandwagon Bears fan. I've watched every single Bears game I possibly could have for 3/4 of my 29 years on this Earth, bleeding blue & orange, including the last 11 seasons I have spent living in Florida, in which I've bought Sunday Ticket 9 years, paying out the ass, & watched the other 2 in bars, paying even more.

    Can't speak for every new one here, but I sir am no bandwagon fan.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    The more the merrier man. It's a bit like an oligarchy on here, like the old trib site, with a few very regular posters, and lots of readers who are afraid of getting bashed over the head if they post anything. Freedom of speech and all that - post away boys and girls. We need more opinions on here. We need more discussion ... and more people telling me who they like for next week :o)

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    ...and get ready to get bashed over the head for dumb ass fucking first posts.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    This. A million times this.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    So who do we like for next week? I'm serious. And no 1/9 shots.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Amen Irish, I got my start here posting because you pissed me off so much with some of the stuff you said!

  • Can the Bears work a deal with another team to claim him and then slip a 4th or 5th round draft pick under the door?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I'm sure ozzie is chomping at the bit Trac.

  • BradBiggs 7 minutes ago Mike Klis of Denver Post reports Orton invited release from Broncos after Jay Cutler was injured. Would invite a return to Chicago.

    David Haughless than a minute ago As intriguing as Orton options are, waiver rules makes his return to Chi hard to seem realistic. Texans? If he falls that far, good fit.

    Yep, what trac said... long road to get here... lots of teams in need of a QB this year. Don't get your hopes up gents.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't think it will EVER happen... just like Brandon Marshall.

    Why, do you ask?

    Wrote a song about it... Like to hear it? Here it go -

    Top 10 reasons it won't happen (an Ode to Al):

    1. It makes WAY too much sense.

    2. He'd have to fall a LONG way, why wouldn't EVERYONE sign him? Great backup, smart dude... holds one hell of a clipboard. Not to mention he's a better starter than a few of the teams ahead of us. Redskins, specifically, come to mind. Does a team have to be out of the running for a playoff spot to pick him up? I don't think so.

    3. Makes WAY too much sense.

    4. Martz has his hand so far up the sphincter of Jerry's offensive personnel decisions, that there's NO way we get Neckbeard. He's not Martz's guy, and Martz doesn't want another obstacle between his guy (Enderle) and the starting spot.

    5. Just makes too much sense.

    6. Did I mention, Al, that he's not Todd Collins?

    7. Too much sense.

    8. Not sure Jerry has ever wanted a capable backup to JC. It makes the possibility of QB controversy WAY too high. Jerry don't like no QB controversy.

    9. Houston.

    10. The Martzfense.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    If Neckbeard hits the Redskins, maybe we could get Rex back!

    (ducks)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    (Fires can of tomatoes at Dave's head)

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Todd Collins and I are laughing!

  • btw, my birthday is coming up guys... just sayin: http://www.gerbergear.com/Apocalypse/Gear/Apocalypse-Kit_30-000601

  • MB? If Jerry pulls this off, will you bend over and kiss yer arse?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I'll bend over and kiss yours Trac!

    Oh, and lost in all this is the fact that (at least this year)... the broncos are doubling down on tebus. Wow.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Tebus AND Quinn. *shiver*

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    yeah, I don't get elway/fox.

    They're the classic definition of a clusterfuck if you ask me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Show me the money!!!!!!!!! Fox knows the Bronco's aren't going to the Super Bowl this year and he's trying to clear the way for a fresh start next year.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    that's true, but still doesn't make sense to penny pinch like this, does it? Bah, what do I know....

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    Most teams know that you win SB's with franchise QB's, not back ups unless you are an extremely talented team which the Bronco's are not. Don't forget that the Bronco's went 1-4 with Orton as their starter.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    They want to begin next year with no question as to who the starting QB it is, and once the Broncos go into a tailspin this year (according to Fox and Elway's thinking, I'm betting), the Tebow mania will die down and they can draft their guy.

    If Tebow blows up and Orton is still on the roster, then they are back to the same QB controversy in the off-season, with fans asking why they're letting him walk or they end up overpaying him and postponing getting a new QB in play.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    If he falls that far on the waiver wire, again, it's a default auto-pick in which little 'credit' could be given to Angelo. If you're walking along a deserted street and you see a hundred dollar bill on the ground ... are you smart for picking it up?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    exactly. nicely illustrated.

  • No coach would call a kick to Hester. It's gotta be the Punters, looking for a little excitement and a story for the grand kids.

    "...and there I was, the only Raider between the goal-line and the greatest return man in the history of professional football..."

    Because what else they got?

  • In reply to M Onan Batterload:

    handle? meaning?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and please don't tell me that's your fucking name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTwEKTxmWsk

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's an anagram for Retardo Montalban, a blogger at 'Sadly, No.' He was looking for a new goofy pseudonym that didn't insult the mentally disabled and MOB was my (late) submission. He went with 'HTML Mencken', so I kept MOB.

    Onan, of course, is a Biblical character, killed by the Lord for choking the chicken without permission.

    My real name is David Ryder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY

    (reposted. Musta posted 1st reply in wrong place. Mods, please delete it)

  • In reply to M Onan Batterload:

    mods? delete? hee hee...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Moderator?! We don't need no STINKIN moderator!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was curious too, but not as curious as I am about Jeff's avatar of that dude Murray whatshisname. I think it was a drunken bet/dare.

  • I counted 6 teams ahead of the Bears that need a QB. Houston is the only one that's realistically in the playoff hunt. No sure if they would snag Orton though.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Is there a team out there with a better backup then Orton?

    Is his salary too much for backup money?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him go ANYWHERE...

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Not sure how it works but most teams probably don't want to spend the Kinda money to sign Orton with the season basically over for them. Orton's contract runs out at the end of the year so why would you want to pay top dollar for a backup if your season is over?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Got it... Didn't know he was on an expiring contract...

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    shit.

    Maybe this will make you all feel better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=TvOnC8PaXJ0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ha!

    Totally expected a Hanie highlight film (if one exists), or an Orton blooper reel.

    I think I just got red flagged.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    you're welcome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    By the way, did you see the Epic Mealtime turducken centipede?

    Ridiculous(ly smart).

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    naw willie... they kinda lost me after they started going Hollywood.

    It's tough being a tastemaker, but that's the thing... I'll now move on to bring you all the next big thing until it goes mainstream... then I'll move on again.

    btw, and totally off topic, 'here is no way'. Fucking brilliant. Not my favorite album of theirs (I tend to like the early stuff from them, alice, foo, soundgarden, pearl, stp, janes, etc...), but damn, that is a brilliant song.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw again... the zombie thing is so over. Shit man, it's everywhere now. Fucking bandwaggoneers.

  • How does the waiver order work? Is it based on this year suck factor, last years record? or does it have to do with how many FA signings and previous waves each team has done?

  • Waivers are all about this years record. Cap number I think is in the 7 mil a year range for Ortman, so whatever team that grabs him will owe him and the neck beard the pro rated amount. around 3 mildo. Is he worth that to probably watch Hanie hand off? I'm not sure. I like the idea, but i don't know how feasable or worthwhile it is. My guess is he's a Cheif by the end of tomorrow.

  • value

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    added

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Except for the spelling but as I've been particularly retarded the last week or two, so the rock bounces back and hits me.

  • this kind of sucks for nickleback... unfortunately, nickback sucks.

    http://detroit.sbnation.com/detroit-lions/2011/11/22/2581041/funny-or-die-nickelback-detroit-thanksgiving-day-game-lions-packers

  • From what I read it will cost $1.59 mil for the rest of the year for Orton. I doubt we sign him due to other teams get first dibs, the money and no familiarity with Martz's offense. I wouldn't be opposed to the signing.

  • Orton quoted as wanting Chicago

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I would have thought he'd be really unwilling to come back to a team that traded him away. Or maybe he just really liked it here and wants to be a part of the Bears no matter what. I mean who wants to live in Kansas?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    here, let me help you irish...

    Bears, 7-3 and a shot at the show

    Chiefs, 4-6

  • well I'm gna go off topic because I'm not gna waste my time talking about Orton cuz I'm 99.9% sure we won't be him due to the waiver order...

    soooo.......

    am I the only one that's been REALLY satisfied with the play of Omobi Okoye? Don't get me wrong, he's not having a probowl season, but he's been very solid on our d-line and wouldn't mind us bringing him back next year.

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    I would definitely bring him back over big toe.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    whaaaa.. common now maing. Toe has been injured the whole year. And while I like okoye and would like to keep him, I think toe has more than proven himself when he's healthy.

    Besides, I don't think we're allowed to fall below our organizational floor of at least 5 pacific islanders on the team at any given time... it's like we're the BYU or Oregon of the NFL.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    I hate to agree with that, but I kinda do...
    I had high hopes for Big Toe this year...
    the only reason I wouldn't let the Toe go is because he's been battling that knee injury all yr...
    I just hope he doesn't turn into another Dusty Dvorachek....

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    common guys... give the toe some love. Sheesh... tough crowd.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I only picked Toe cause we just gave the contract to AA. He hasn't been the same since he got injured, and he just can't recognise a screen.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    much rather give up paella at this point.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But dude....he can bench press, like, 2 BJ Rajis. Mad skills bro.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    If we cut anyone to clear room, my guess is it will be one of the defensive ends that we haven't heard of.
    If our O-line were at all healthy, it would be Omiyale, but $(*$#@*%#(, it's not. It'll be a D-end.

    That's my theory.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    flatbread is battling a leg injury
    plus he needs schooling on his technique
    he is going to have to have repeated reps
    he hasn't been in organized ball very long
    i would hate to see him go
    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=666907

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    trying this address for a second time
    it's about growing up flatbread

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6669076

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Much rather have Mikel Leshoure.
    {Let it go Irish!}
    No.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    let it go irish... he's not even playing fb this year maing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Toe's my 2nd fav. DT on our team behind Double A.
    I always have a soft spot for DT's because that's what I played in HS & College.
    I really want him to work out!
    I should rephrase my previously stated comment:
    it would BREAK MY HEART if Big Toe turned into a Dusty Dvorchek...
    and it never hurts to have a nice amount of Polynesean Power on your team!

  • It's an anagram for Retardo Montalban, a blogger at 'Sadly, No.' He was looking for a new goofy pseudonym that didn't insult the mentally disabled and MOB was my (late) submission. He went with 'HTML Mencken', so I kept MOB.

    Onan, of course, is a Biblical character, killed by the Lord for choking the chicken without permission.

    My real name is David Ryder.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY

  • In reply to M Onan Batterload:

    MST3K.... excellent. why in god's name did they take this off the air?

    Personally, I think you should have gone with "Crunch Buttsteak"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cancelled, because MST's Mike Nelson ( http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9dbj1BMOv1qzn0kbo1_500.jpg ) looks too much like this twat: http://www.chastity.com/images/philip_rivers.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One of my favorite shows. I still have a static sticker on the corner of my windshield of mst3k. My best friend's license plate is mst3k. He has all of the episodes on tape. The show about the pineal gland was my favorite. Also, the one with Little Joe as a werewolf is off the chart funny.

  • Don't get your hopes up just yet though:

    vxmcclure23 41 minutes ago Can confirm Jay Glazer's report that the Bears will attempt to claim Kyle Orton, league source tells me.

    And...

    @McClain_on_NFL: Texans aren't interested in Orton. if Schaub learns Wednesday he needs surgery, they'll sign one of vets they brought in for tryouts Monday.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    According to the Denver Post, Orton and his agent David Dunn initiated talks of his release with the Broncos after they learned that Cutler suffered a broken right thumb against the San Diego Chargers Sunday and that he would likely miss the remainder of the regular season.

    "Orton let it be known that Chicago would be one place he'd like to play for," the Post story said.

    Fox Sports NFL insider Jay Glazer said he hears that the Bears and/ or Kansas City Chiefs will put in a waiver claim for him. If both teams did, the Chiefs would get the veteran because of an inferior record. In fact, the Bears are 30th out of 32 teams, on the waiver priority list because of its 7-3 record.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Best QB roster in the NFL bar none - if we could make it happen (and assuming that Enderle is thrown out the back door head first).

  • Boomer thinks he is Aikman...

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/behindthemic/#/nfl/2011/11/22/112211.btm_boomer_bears

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    ahooooole.

    In actuality he probably just chose the short straw. One asshole on each show has to take that contrarian pov just to produce the argument.

    It would be a legitimate argument if we didn't have the cake-walk schedule and pretty good back up that we do indeed have. Now if I had my choice, I'd take billy volek from SanD as our back up any day.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    EW...just look in the dictionary under...assclown or asshat and you will see this fucks face...

    try this on for size you

    FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • If Orton comes back, what exactly does Denver have to show for the multiple picks that they got for Cutler in '09?

    McDaniels shouldn't be coaching Powder-Puff football much less being an OC in the NFL.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    +100000000
    Belichek "Prodigy" my ass.....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ryan Clady

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Fair enough - not exactly an even trade.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No, as I recall Ryan Clady was their regular pick.

    With the picks they got from Chicago they drafted a bunch of busts as I recall. DE Ayers maybe? I forget now, but last I'd checked they've done little in the league so far...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    So the trade was incredibly lopsided for the Bears then.
    Even better.

  • oh sweet 8lb 9oz baby tebus... seriously?? Fuuuck me

    @ZachZaidman: Jerry Angelo tells NFL.com J.T. O'Sullivan and Josh McCown are among the players being considered by the Bears.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Barfed a little there...
    McCown?
    Garrrrrh.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    yeah, exactly MBP.

    Hey Trac, there's your shrewdness right there. fucking josh McCown (AKA, "Little Todd Collins")

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Now that's more what I'd expect from Angelo .... the man that brought you Todd Collins. Rather than cement the QB roster for almost ten years, he'll sign some useless prick.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    While it may be implausible, perhaps it's a misdirection ploy to put the gazillion teams ahead of us for KO off the trail?

  • and canada...

    "With six weeks remaining, that means he would be owed about $2.58 million for the rest of the season by any team that claims him on waivers before Wednesday's 3 p.m. deadline."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Either I read it wrong or the guy who wrote the article is not in Doc's class.

  • Name that idiot:
    ""I said to his physician assistant, I said, 'That sounds foreign – not that I had anything against foreign doctors – but it sounded too foreign," Idiot tells the audience. "She said, 'He's from Lebanon.' Oh, Lebanon! My mind immediately started thinking, wait a minute, maybe his religious persuasion is different than mine! She could see the look on my face and she said, 'Don't worry, Mr. Idiot, he's a Christian from Lebanon.'"

    "Hallelujah!" Idiot says. "Thank God!"

    It's going to be a long way to November 2012.

  • no clutts?:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8385

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I'm guessing Clutts will have his hands full pass blocking and making holes.. I would assume a ton of new pass plays mixed with a hand full of two RB set looks (that we have not seen enough recently) will make Clutts in a majority of plays.
    Although I will be pissed if new guy gets nervous and cost us a FG or even extra point.

  • My bet is on JT O'Sullivan. He's a Martz guy through and through, drinks the Martz kool-aid.

    Forget the guy has been on 12 teams in 10 years, cause he's this year's Todd Collins.

  • Stat of the day: 4th Q TOP against Chargers

    14:23 to 0:37

  • Artoo -

    Any interest in a trade in DBB2? I'd like MJD, Fitz or the Steelers D.

    I can offer you Sebastian Janikowski And Steve Johnson. Two posturing pricks with a bonus rape conviction thrown in, no charge. So there's that.

    Let me know maing.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll give you Reggie Wayne and the Jags D for Steve Johnson.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hey, talk to me, GPL...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wait, you're in second place.
    Never mind.

  • was this a prophecy?
    http://www.zimbio.com/Caleb+Hanie

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    no, just a handshake.

    Ha!

  • don't know if you read this earlier; but it is an insight into the relationship of our QB's
    I expect Jay to be in Hanie's corner all the way
    and helping him get it right

    Backup plan
    As the backup quarterback, Hanie has gotten to know Cutler on a personal level more than any of the Bears. The bond became tighter when Cutler invited Hanie to stay with him for more than a month when the offensive skill players worked out at Carmel High School during the NFL lockout.

    Hanie refused to divulge details of Cutler's household routine or conversations about Cutler's relationship with actress Kristin Cavallari. Hanie, however, did shed some light on why Cutler reported to training camp in better shape.

    "He took his diet seriously,'' Hanie said. "And I got on the health kick with him for little while, too. I'm talking chicken, vegetables. We ate organic stuff from Whole Foods, like all the guys on our team.

    "We just tried to avoid the late-night Taco Bell runs.''

    They still made runs for On the Border, one of their frequent dinner spots along with Wildfire and Tsukasa of Tokyo. Some players harass receiver Dane Sanzenbacher today because Cutler takes the rookie out to dinner weekly
    "I'm usually a part of those dinners with Dane, so I can't really give him any (crap) about it,'' Hanie joked. "And Jay pays a lot.''

    Cutler shouldn't mind footing the bill for the guy who essentially doubles as his crash dummy.

    Part of offensive coordinator Mike Martz's teaching philosophy is never to scold the starter but get points across through berating the backup. Hanie feels the brunt of Martz's admonitions.

    "Last year was pretty rough with that,'' Hanie said. "You just feel like you're in the doghouse. And I think Jay took pleasure in seeing me get yelled at. This year is a little better but last year, I think that was entertainment for Jay.''

    Hanie enjoyed how some Bears initially harassed Cutler over one of his quirks.

    "You know that little arm twitch he does after he throws? When he first got here, guys brought that up to him all the time,'' Hanie said. "It looks like he has a nervous twitch or something.''

    Receiver Earl Bennett first noticed it when he played with Cutler at Vanderbilt.

    "Everybody always asks me what's wrong with him,'' Bennett said with a laugh. "I mean, even my family back at home. And I just say, 'He's fixing his shoulder pads.' But he has been doing it forever.''
    Bennett wouldn't dare tease Cutler too much about it. Cutler certainly has one up on him. Just ask anyone who witnessed their pickup basketball games this offseason.
    Warm reception
    As painful as it was to admit, Bennett knew Matt Forte was right on point.
    While dissecting Cutler's basketball skills, Forte noted how the 6-foot-3 Cutler — a high school all-state basketball player in Indiana — used to have his way with the 6-foot Bennett when a handful of Bears played basketball at XSport Fitness.
    "That's cheating, man. He's bigger than me,'' Bennett said with a laugh. "But Jay's pretty good. He can handle the rock.''
    Hanie concurred.
    "Jay's a slasher,'' he said. "He's the only one of us who can really handle the ball. He tries to be a scorer.''

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    taco bell runs indeed.

    smell ya later holmes!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    phphphphphphphphphftftftftftftftftftftftftftf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    P.U. to you ; )

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    and I'm postin' that one to crap-splater.com

  • here is some positive mojo for those who doubt

    With both teams taking the cautious approach, this was a night for backups to shine and Hanie and Knox took advantage.

    They connected on a 19-yard touchdown on Chicago’s second possession, with Hanie lofting the ball over two defenders and Knox making the catch in the left corner of the end zone, drawing an ear-to-ear grin from coach Lovie Smith while boosting the lead to 10-0.

    “It was a great route,’’ Hanie said. “They actually covered it pretty well. Man coverage and the safety got over there pretty quick, just a good well-executed play. It was a tough catch.’’

    Hanie started the game by leading the reigning NFC North champions on a 76-yard drive that ended in a 22-yard field goal for Robbie Gould, and he wound up completing 7 of 10 passes for 83 yards on two possessions before Nathan Enderle took over.

  • I wanted to say something about punting to heast
    tampa bay did a great job of containing him on 5 punts;
    he only averaged 6.6 yrds per
    the longest was 18

    I think it gave some of the other teams reason to believe he could be stopped

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    hester
    don't know where heast came from

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I agree hb. Also, NFL players are competitors with lots of pride. They *know* they can stop him.

    Certainly the league is better off for them thinking so. There are few, if any, better "hold your breath moments" in professional football than when Devin Hester fields a kick.

    Just how amazingly cool is it that he is OUR guy?

  • Was this posted already? Sorry if it was, I nearly peed my pants. Orton just got cut. Goodbye Nathan, welcome back neckbeard.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-broncos-ortonwaived

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Hahahaha... it's had the thread a-buzz all day irish.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Again, pee, small amounts, leaking out .....

  • timmy J: http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/multimediapopup.asp?mm_file_id=2726&play_clip=Y&rn=13

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i watched the other videos too including Tom Thayers breakdown of Cutler's TD pass to Johnny Knox. No Bears QB except Cutler has ever been able to do that. Why did he have to get hurt hustling his ass off to tackle that guy? Why god why???

    I wouldn't have it any other way though. That's why he is our leader. That win may put us in the playoffs and that tackle helped us win that game.

    Jay, go to some secret Korean military facility and let them run experimental gene therapy on you fucking asap.

    Martz better use the rollout and the shotgun like last year. Hanie was killing it from the gun. Don't make him perform miracles like Jay or you will set us up for heartbreak.

    I want Hanie and then a miracle appearance of Neckbeard in super backup "oh shit" mode.

  • http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8245f043/article/bears-wont-know-timetable-on-cutlers-return-until-surgery-done?module=HP11_headline_stack

  • reading comments of people on Yahoo, NFL Network, etc makes one question the intelligence of your average human.

    And I truly mean average.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I saw what you did there.

  • Say a prayer. We have the technology.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-bones-20111123,0,2946641.story

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    jay will be back when it is time for his body to take the stage
    until then ...this is act II
    I know that the story has been written and played out
    it is just a matter of "time" before it processes itself (the stories visual) before our eyes in this freakin' version of densesness

    what will happen?
    that is the part that lights up the imagination
    exciting isn"t it
    life is not dull, when it twists and turns like this
    best coaster ride ever ...this human body trip tied to
    Da Bears
    C'MON Mr. Hanie pick up Arnold and throw that pigskin
    like a pro
    all the way to the superbowl

    Arnold is one s'martz pigskin he can lead us to the promised land
    Mr. Ziffle wants to be paid Manning money though Jerry
    so cough it up

  • Cool article Irish. Incredibly detailed for a general audience newspaper feature actually. When you stop to think about it, you have to marvel at the human body's capacity to heal itself.

    Ok, this article pretty much sums up the Orton situation. $2.58M for 6 games is a lot. Being 30th in the waiver queue means they may not put in a claim -- because the 49ers and Packers are unlikely to claim him. So if Orton is serious about wanting to come to Chicago, they are better off letting him become a UFA and negotiating a cheaper salary (which he'd happily do I'm sure because Denver will still be on the hook for the balance of the $2.58M). If they're not absolutely sure of that though, and they want him, then they'll put in a claim.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-broncos-reportedly-waive-orton-would-bears-bite-20111122,0,3214959.story

  • I'm glad I found this blog!! I've never had a favorite NFL team, but I always tended to root for Da bears! for some reason. Thanks to you guys and a little google searching I've caught up on some Bears history and tradition and what-not and Ive become a full fledged Bears fan. All my NJ friends hate it cus they're Giants or Jets fans but come on, they got nothing on Da Bears! Thanks guys, I enjoy your comments and feel you guys need an ESPN show (to the regulars on the blog) peace. I hope Jay recovers soon and I feel Caleb will do well. Space Mountain here we go!!!!!!!

  • SB Picks at this stage?

    How about just AFC?

    Ravens are overrated. Pats D is incredibly awful. Gotta put my chips with the Steelers. Again. That team is the quiet dynasty. Texans and Lienart in the AFC Championship game.

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