Hiding Caleb Hanie Not an Option For Bears Moving Forward in Playoff Push

Hiding Caleb Hanie Not an Option For Bears Moving Forward in Playoff Push

We know what kind of defense the Bears are going to play and their next three opponents – Kansas City, Denver, Seattle – will have very little success moving the ball up and down the field. We know what kind of special teams the Bears have and there isn’t another team in the NFL (and perhaps history of the NFL) who can neutralize their return game the way Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski did Sunday. We know what kind of rushing attack the Bears possess, showcased by their exceeding triple-digits when the Raiders did everything in their power to shut them down.

Is Jay Cutler going to return to the Bears this year? I certainly think so. But the Bears cannot expect his return before the end of the regular season. Most have predicted he will begin throwing again in the week leading up to the Christmas night showdown with Green Bay and Jay Glazer reported Sunday morning Cutty is expected by some inside Halas Hall to return to the field in Minneapolis the following week. I’ll take a more conservative approach and say the Bears won’t have #6 back at full strength until they travel in the wildcard round of the postseason to San Francisco, New Orleans, New Jersey or Dallas.

But they have to get there. And after watching them play four quarters against a playoff-caliber opponent Sunday, I don’t think they’ll be able to hide Caleb Hanie. Fixing his play won’t be easy.

Decrease Number of Timing Routes

I understand the need to get Hanie comfortable early in games but the type of slants the Bears were running Sunday require a rapport between quarterback and receivers it would be impossible for Hanie and the pass catchers to have. If the Bears determine Hanie needs a couple easy completions to find his footing, insert Hester for a bubble screen or two or design ways to get Kellen Davis in space.

The other fear I have with Hanie and the quick slant is his size. He looked small behind the Bears offensive line and those routes are too easy to knock down at the line of scrimmage.

Take Off!

Maybe I’m losing my mind but I thought Hanie’s play improved significantly once he started gaining yardage with his legs. Hanie is not just a mobile quarterback but he’s a legitimate threat running the football. Using his speed (instead of, say, throwback screens in the red zone) when the play breaks down, and perhaps even in the play-calling, might be the best tool for the Bears to avoid costly, field-position killing turnovers.

Take Shots!

Opposing defenses know Jay Cutler can throw the ball with every other quarterback in the league and they respect his arm on game day. No one respects the arm of Caleb Hanie because no one has enough tape on it. Seeing him hit Johnny Knox deep (and seeing his rapport with Knox in general) made it clear that Hanie has the ability to stretch secondaries and take pressure off not only the run game but also the short passing game.

Throw It Away

Just throw it away, Caleb. If it’s not there and you can’t run, throw it to Mike Tice. He’s the giant man on the sideline who looks like he should be a short order cook in a highway diner. There used to be a chorus of “throw it away” filling Josie Woods whenever Rex Grossman looked a bit confused. Don’t make us pull the old scripts from the file cabinet.

It is on Caleb Hanie to prevent a good team from missing the postseason. He’s the caretaker. But it is on Mike Martz and the Bears coaching staff to create an atmosphere in which he can succeed. I did not come away from Sunday believing Hanie is incapable of leading the Bears to victories. I came away from Sunday believing that Hanie’s success will be determined by game management: how the Bears coaching staff manages him and how he manages the football. If there Bears are going to make the postseason, they’ll need to be successful on both accounts.

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  • ...his second about 7-step drops... only 7-step drops

  • Looking at that picture, his first thought is about dognuts.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Look at the hooters on him. Obviously Da Bears blog consensus opinion was wrong, more boobs do not always make boobs better.

  • Were that only the third time gnome code messed up!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    yeah Dave, I was laughing after I posted the second one. Jesus these guys are terrible at their jobs.

  • I been very critical of Cutler but I must say now that I do fuckin miss him. I believe though that Caleb will get us through these next three games. He will get better this week.

  • Still in 'double trouble' shock Fres?

  • Here’s my deal…

    1. Control mike fucking martz – Run the god damned ball, and keep running it until nothing works for at LEAST 2 series in a row. Sprinkle in easy short throws to move chains and gain confidence, bring back our excellent SIMPLE screen game, and then take some shots downtown ONLY when the D is expecting a run or caleb sees an obvious broken coverage. Look, it’s fucking simple, it’s the exact same game plan we employed last year when Jay was in trouble going into the bye. EXACT same game plan. Common martz you fucking moron, you know exactly how to make this work.

    2. Pound into caleb’s head that he either has to run, dump it off to matty, throw it away, or take the sack when there’s no play. No stupid fucking throws into double coverage or traffic. NONE!

    3. D needs to take advantage of EVERY opty given to us by catching INTs that are in our hands, causing and getting fumbles and no blown coverages. Specials need to get us one score a game.

    4. We do that and we should win 4 out of 5 reasonably comfortably. Btw, I am so bummed that the packer and vikings games aren’t swapped. Oh well, maybe caleb is GB’s nemesis and will get us all a HUGE present on baby jebus night.

    5. Oh, and Cutty needs to go talk to TO and go see his guys in Korea. Get that stem cell shot in the ‘ol thumb.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    6. The Bears deep ball is basically like a kickoff that your own guys can catch. If you're between your own 40 and the opponents 40 every single third down should be a pass for this simple reason. Once you're inside their 40 you should lay off the pass play because of the kick option. I saw a lot of runs in the the hail mary zone on third down.

  • forgot to mention yesterday... sweet husky avatar buttsteak!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's a Bear, goddamit, and quit calling me buttsteak.

  • In reply to M Onan Batterload:

    i am jealous of all of you with your custom avatars. almost as jealous as martz gets of himself when he sits at home watching his "Rams 1999" Sports Illustrated DVD.

  • Meant to add if your at 3rd and 10, obviously if your at 3rd and 4 you can switch it up a bit.

  • I'm on board with everything except you are a bit more optimistic about Cutty's retur than I am, Blogfather.

    Glazer 's right more than he's wrong but remember this, the NEXT time the Bears provide/leak any straight dope regarding an injured player will be the FIRST.

    As "Exhibit A" look no farther than Gabe Carimi.

    FIRST he was expected to miss, maybe, a month.

    THEN he was coming back after the bye.

    FINALLY he's getting his knee scoped and winds up on I.R.

    I'll believe Cutler plays again this season when I see it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Agreed Al. Cutler is not coming back this year.

  • In reply to Crown:

    not even playoffs? i bet you a high-five he comes back for the playoffs. he'll be throwing left-handed, mind you, but he'll be back.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If it's a non-displaced Bennett's fracture then it's four weeks from the time of the fracture. How we find out if it's of the non-displaced variety is another thing, but as he didn't look in too much pain after it happened ... then I'm hopeful.

  • MB30 I think a big reason for Caleb's mishaps were indeed Martz play calling. We got two good as RB's and yet we were not trying to establish the run. I think we win that game if we ran the ball maybe 10 more times.Caleb has the potential, and I believe Martz playcalling is the key to unlock that potential.

    We are regarded as one of the best screen teams in the league but yet why do I say less and less of it week in and out?

  • 100% my man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, did you see Joe Kapp and Angelo Mosca mix it up at the Grey Cup luncheon? Hilarious. You just can't beat 2 guys in their 70's throwing it down.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I did canada... kinda scary actually. That's a good way to kill an old guy. Sheesh.

    Good to see that kind of competative fire in the oldies though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh man that old guy forgot to turn around his cane and swing it the other way. He almost got him.. but then he wore one on his chin.

  • How many times have you seen the screen get destroyed ?

    Bubble screens? To Hester ? How many times did those get blown up?

    Someone is giving these plays worse.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    yep. with you erik.

    That's why I said SIMPLE screens. the ones to matty in space. Those is the ones thats works. None of the trickey 'special' screens that take a fucking math major (I'm looking at you doc) to pull off. Just fucking silly.

    Martz needs to put ALL of his bullshit trick plays away forever. The payoff just isn't there... 85% of the time they get blown up and kill a drive. fucking martz.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I meant giving away glad Fres figured it out.

    Someone is giving away the screens.

  • We threw two screens that I remember, and one was a 5 yard loss and one was the near pick 6. Cutler is good at screens, Hanie fucking broadcasts them for the world to see. Screen passes are a lot harder to throw/set up than you think. One of the harder plays in football to pull off successfully. Jay is great at selling it, Caleeb is not.

    cock. balls.

  • Hanie might be too small for screens. When the 6-7 DEs come rushing in and jumping 3 feet up, Hanie's not going to be able to throw over them.

    Hanie's size factors more than we think, including slants like the Blogfather pointed out.

    That's why my number 1 "key" to the game was to roll out to get him a better view.

  • Really? one of the best screen teams?...news to me!! Who you Crappin'?Sorry but at best they are an average screen team. Too many mishaps and you saw one this last game.

  • Yup. We're not going to be able to just run our way out of this one. Caleb is gonna have to throw the ball and he's going to have to do it well. But seeing how close we were to winning the game last Sunday, even with the HORRIBLE 1st half performance by our QB, I have confidence that the Bears can win the next 3. Bear doown gentlemen!

  • Here we see Mike Tice at Johnny Rockets, sitting down with a young Alec Guiness.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUpbg9HvXnw

  • In reply to gpldan:

    can't wait for the future. Yay!

  • I agree with Al.

    Cutty, Cookie and Bear Jew will all be seen in pads again. During training camp next year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    so you guys think that cutty's not coming back even for the playoffs?

    PLAYOFFS!?!!??!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    oh, and you forgot mannelly too. Fucken a maing. we got fucked by injuries this year. I honestly believe that if we had the injury luck we had last season, this season. We'd have a huge shot at winning the bowl. Damn it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Fudgies had it worse last year. beat our asses, and won the fucking Super Bowl. No goddamn excuses.

  • Suh got two games, not one.

    So his penalty matches that of Haynesworth. The subtext, I guess, is that the league didn't believe his bullshit about intentions.

    Schwartz has blown that team up with bad coaching, and I don't know how you write that narrative any other way.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Didn't Haynesworth get whacked for a 5 gamer?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Sorry, I was wrong. I thought Big big Al got 2.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Actually Haynesworth got a 5 game suspension. I think Suh should have gotten more than 2. I'm not sure this is a strong enough message to curtail his actions.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    agree murph

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    didn't albert stomp on a helmetless lineman laying on the ground? that's a bit different than an arm stomp.

    not that i'm defending suh. i hope he wakes up with his penis missing and his balls surgically grafted to his nostrils.

    just saying - helmetless head stomp is way more severe than an arm stomp.

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    yep. that dude is a fucking waste of o2

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    True. Haynesworth stomped a helmetless, then Cobys' center, Andre Gurode.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jim Schwartz once killed a man.

  • man, what a whacko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExhURC8iVqA

    But funny, in an 'I'm really embarrassed for you just watching this' way. You can tell she’s really nervous (...or totally hoped up on speed), but sheesh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Drama Queen who craves attention is more like it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB
    I am
    speechless

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    hahahahaha

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Wow MB, that's saying something! (u know I luv u, hb)

  • Check out the Acting Career section: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerome_Simpson&oldid=462963031

    Hilarious.

  • Jags let Del Rio go, the bloodbath is starting. I figure Norv Turner will be looking for a new job. Spagnuolo gone too I think. Les Frazier gonna survive? Sporano?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Frazier will stay, although the McFlabb choice hurts his street cred - he probably also made the call on Ponder.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Dolphins, the Jags and the Bucs.

    Florida has 3 pro teams, and they are all a mess ownership and GM wise. What a fucked up state that is.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    one of them supposedly got sold this week too.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Topped off by the fucking Miami Heat.

    Yes, I care about the NBA... It helps the late January Bears induced blues.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You forgot the Hurricane, Gators, and Seminoles. Pro teams all

  • wayne must be so proud.

    http://thechive.com/2011/11/08/paulina-gretzky-is-using-the-twitter-machine-properly-34-photos/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like to puck that net for $200, Alex.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hee hee

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and I'm sure it would end up costing you a lot more than $200.

    She's kinda butter though... but damn nice body/tits.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She really looks like her mother. Who would ever guess a woman with a gambling problem would be willing to alter her looks?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Mommy (Janet Jones) was a looker in her day, but really didn't age well. Neither did the Great one, though, honestly.

    We're not in Al Davis land, but we've certainly left Oz

    http://www.exposay.com/janet-jones-gretzky-10th-annual-michael-jordan-celebrity-invitational-party---arrivals/p/45695/1/?f=Janet+Jones-Gretzky

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yep, not great GP. She JACKED her lips up man. Wow.

    While her mom isn’t a looker... her daughter sure seems to be a hooker. (see how I rhymed those? Did you see?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He took her and shook her like Marty Booker.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    oooooh, a poet.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    http://fail.brm.sk/disappoint_n_dissapprove/dude.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0812/obviousy-lebowski-demotivational-poster-1229896082.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I thought Wayne looked pretty good for 50. Janet not so much. Still has a nice bod. I had to laugh at the pics at the golf tourney. Wayne was in a couple and then she's strutting/mugging for the camera for a bunch of pics. I wonder where her daughter got that behavior?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Janet Jones shows well in 1984's THE FLAMINGO KID.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I badly want to give her my great one.....

  • http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/multimediapopup.asp?mm_file_id=2743&play_clip=Y&rn=18

    I was going to post the Clutts Mic'd up piece... but it was lame. The only goot part was he put a lick on their #33 on one play.

  • It's starting to look like 10-6 or maybe even 9-7 is good enough for a wildcard berth, the way the Lions and Giants are going. Looks like ATL and CHI will only need to win 2 or 3 more games to get in.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    yup. would be nice to win at least 3 (I think we can win 4 if things go our way) of the next 5 and stay the 5 seed to meet dallas (who blows) in rd one .

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    but I guess that begs the question...

    ...if we make the playoffs (and even win rd one in dallas) and cutty doesn't come back, does it really matter? Does anyone think we can beat the pack, or saints, or ravens, or pats, or 49ers with Mr. Hankey anyway?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Making the playoffs should provide satisfaction in itself. I think Super Bowl hopes for Chicago are naive even with Cutler. On the road against Dallas/NO, San Francisco and Green Bay? Forget about it. The Cutler Bears proved last year that they could win in Cowboys stadium, and I think they definitely have a shot @ Candlestick...... but they can't get to Indy without going through New Orleans and/or Green Bay, and I don't think they could survive either one of those games. I would even favor ATL over the Cutler Bears IF they somehow played in the Georgia Dome. Soldier Field is a great neutralizer, but they won't have that luxury.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    fair arguments, but I wouldn't use naive. One only has to conjure up names like the cardinals and giants to know that once in the playoffs pretty much anything can happen.

    That all said, I think we'd take the saints and atl... the game against you guys is always a battle. Hasn't gone our way in a while, but if we have cutty back and he's on a hot streak, anything can happen. Would be an awesome game nontheless.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Week 17 might be huge for Chicago. If they lose that game, I think Detroit sneaks in. I think it's gonna be a tough game for the bears, no matter who is playing QB.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    not convinced maing. I haven't seen anything impressive from the vikes that make me worry. You alluded to this earlier and I just don't see it.

    I feel less confident about the seattle game than I do the vikes. The vikes with a hobbled peterson is even less worrisom. Any given sunday, but we've kinda had the vikes number for almost 3 years now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It could be the last game ever played in the Metrodome. The vikings are sorry, but they've been competitive in several games. The Bears avoided the metrodome last year, I just think it could be a tough game.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Yea, the sorry Vikes almost beat the Pack recently.

    You feelin the perfect season pressure yet?

    The Pats couldn't do it several years back with a much better defense.

    If I was a pack fan, I would be praying for a loss before the playoffs.

    If the Pack win the SB, it won't be with a perfect record.

    And the Pack's D just looks worse and worse each week.

  • In reply to Crown:

    I thought the Packers defense played really well on Thanksgiving

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I don't think the Pack gave up 300 plus passing yards on turkey day, so that is better than their regular 2011 status quo of getting totally aired out on.

    The Nick Collins injury is a huge loss. The ClayMaker's Conti HGH connect must have been broken.

    Never seen such an impactful player like Woodson decline so much over such a short period of time. I was wondering when that guy would show his age, just didn't think it would be all at once.

  • In reply to Crown:

    I think Woodson has been slowing down since 2010. He hasn't been a shutdown corner for the last couple of years, but he's still been pretty dynamic. He has 6 INTs this year which is good for 2nd in the league. I think Green Bay's defense hasn't been as dominant as they were last year, for sure. But they've been just as clutch. They're giving up too many yards, but Green Bay has still surrendered fewer points than Chicago has this year.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    http://fail.brm.sk/the_rest/troll_side.jpg

  • YAY!!! win-win. Fuck off mike. (after this year of course)

    DavidHaugh about an hour ago RT @ZachZaidman: RT @DougHaller: Hearing Bears offensive coordinator and former ASU assistant Mike Martz has interest in the Sun Devils job.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good article in the suntimes about Martz possibly going/staying.

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/9123461-606/baffling-play-calling-makes-you-wonder-about-mike-martzs-future-with-bears.html

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    jesus: "A few minutes later, after a disaster largely of his own making, Martz emerges looking like he just had a three-hour massage."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    who was under the desk"?

  • WTF?!?!?

    vxmcclure23 about an hour ago Looks like hamstring injury led to Brian Iwuh being waived, as he tweeted this morning.

    Damn man. He was leading specials with 14 tackles?!?!

    also, too many other links to post... read and pick the ones you want yourself: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-tweets-20110726-twz,0,945274.htmlpage

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://fail.brm.sk/shock_n_awe/what-the-.gif

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Something's fishy about this one. I read he wasn't hurt that bad and just a few weeks ago they were thinking of extending his contract. Iwuh must have REALLY pissed someone off.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    to make room for a healed up Pisa maybe?

  • Is this guy starting for KC?

    http://drunkathlete.com/2008/09/08/kyle-the-bottle-orton/

  • http://twitter.com/#!/kingneckbeard

  • good read canada (about martz). Did you read some of the comments?

    Is it true that bates is available? I'd love to get an aggressive but SMART and fucking sane OC in this bitch. Someone Jay really likes and respects. If he's available, I'm down.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would be ok with it but I think we can do better. I kinda want to keep the system and have different play calling

  • In reply to Artoo:

    not the way it works Erik. New OC, new system.

    Maybe we can get it right on our 5th try in 3.5 years. Think Sean payton would come over to be OC for us?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know. I am tired of the time it takes for all this to gel. Bates is so iffy.. hell I think he will be more like Martz. He passed a lot in Denver because they had no run game and had Marshall. If he is good, how does he lose his job last year?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If Martz goes, Tice is the man. If they bypassed Tice he would be totally pissed. I think Tice would be great for our team. He understands our personnel and doesn't feel the need to be prove he's a genius every game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    + a whole lot

  • Hanie and bears must forget about what happened to them against the Raiders it is over done with, we must forget about cutler and that great offense for the next month or so bears must. If they focus on the past that will kill them If they focus what could have happened they will be distracted and not be ready to face the challege we got hell these next 5 games aint gonna be easy, we lost cutler that battles lost, long run is not, focus on the long run, not the past that is the goal for the bears success, oh yeah and defense, martz,forte and hanie. Bear Down.and have a great december.

  • In reply to Sean:

    are you drunk right now sean?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sometimes we think alike Kurt.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I like that Erik. Maybe I'll change my real name.

    Didn't like Savage huh? My wife refuses to call me that too. Oh well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think I've seen cavemen on Geiko comercials formulate better sentences.

  • Sometimes when using a droid or iphone, you can mess up a lot. Especially when you type a whole paragraph.

  • hey hey Sac... easy. I was just poking a bit of fun. let's not be mean.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB how long have i been on here? You shold know that I do mean so nicely.

  • I swear I saw Lovie look up at the press box on Sunday with a look of "Is he fucking serious?"

    Maybe they should just fire Martz now. Tell him to go ahead and take another job. Let Tice call the plays for the rest of the year. Fuck him already. It's almost like he wants to be fired. So fire him already!

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I can get on that bandwaggon doc.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Dude, is it me or does Lovie look like he has been hitting the gym?

    I swear, he is getting ready to choke Martz lol

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I'm pretty sure Lovie could kick the shit out of most of his counterparts in the NFL. Gotta watch out for those quiet guys.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    hey doc check these videos out
    I wanted to know if this was a passion of yours
    one of my great hobbies
    http://fractalarts.com/ASF/Fractal_Movies.html

  • http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2011/11/29/2592540/chicago-bears-fans-get-off-mike-martzs-case?ref=yahoo

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Lester A. Wiltfong Jr.???? Seriously?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Funny right? Lol

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh man, they kiss that guy's ass over there...

    I don't know why, but every SBNation blog is littered with turds.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    we're just a much rowdier crowd over here Willie...no kiss asses among us...exhibit a, Da Coaches Mustache!

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Yeah, if any of us started the ass kissing routine the amount of shit would be monumental.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A bunch of mongs over there, bar 'No it all'.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    To the guy's credit, he's been putting his opinion out there a long time now. Someone must be paying attention.

    Most likely people that just have not discovered this place yet.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    maybe he was the "massage" therapist under the desk

  • One last note.

    You know how Jay steps up in the pocket and the tackles literally push the shit out of dends or put them on the ground , once he does so?

    Hanie needs to do that.

  • Oh, after seeing a game without Jay, I realize how good and how great he can be.

    Before, I was like ehh.. now I see.

    Get this man Reggie Wayne, Brandon Marshall, or some legit wideout and he will flourish.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I'd love to see Marshall here. RW is 33, BM is 27.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    how about a package deal... get BM AND Anquan? Oh. My. Goodness!

    Can you imagine?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yup, been singing that one from the rooftops forever. Brandon needs a guy to put it up there for him. The single game reception record holder needs his Cutty back.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Just throw the fucking ball to Earl Bennett. He is our Steve Smith (Panthers version)

  • Nobody's posted this yet?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/29/mike-martz-rumored-to-have-interest-in-arizona-state-job/

    Whether or not it would be a good thing for Martz to leave after this season is debatable. But the rumors right now are not good for this team.

    If Martz were to go, who are we looking at to replace him?

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I'm guessing Tice would be the man. I would have no problem with that. I would hate to see Jay have to learn another new offense. I think Martz is OK with Cutler at the wheel because Cutler has enough leverage to tell him to fuck right off. Hanie not so much.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think Tice would take over the OC position, but I'm not sure if that would be a good thing.

    If they keep the Martz playbook and lingo intact for the sake of consistency, I'd be all for Tice taking over, adding his own wrinkles, naturally.

    But if Tice (or someone else) were to install a whole new playbook, that would retard our offense which has looked very potent with Cutler.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Exactly 4ever85.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    No need to get of Martz, just slap the bitch up and call the smart plays. He does have some ingenious plays, it's his choice of them that sucks.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    +1

  • Rex Hanie: a profile

    Positives. Confident, almost to the point of over-confident. Can easily shrug off ints like in the NFC Championship game or that Knox bomb. However, it can also lead to him squeezing it into triple coverage for said ints.

    Accurate. I would argue that he's as accurate, or even MORE accurate than Cutler. Yup, I said it. Doesn't have a cannon, but his throws display zip.

    Poise. He was thrown to the Lions in that NFC Championship game without any preparation and nearly beat the SuperBowl Champs. However, he looked very rattled against the Raiders early on, but hopefully this was just "first start" jitters in a very hostile environment.

    Running ability. He has good quickness and agility when the pocket breaks down as was apparent on that 3&18 when he ran for 20. Sometimes he takes off a little too early and needs to learn how to slide.

    Pocket Awareness. Seems to be ok, esp for a non-vet, sensing the pressure around him. If anything, he might take off prematurely, not allowing for his progressions to develop.

    Negatives.

    Decision making, decision making, decision making!

    Hanie seems to be oblivious to down and distance. "Throw away" is not in his vocab. Locks on to primary receiver with little thought of progressions or coverage. His second progression is him taking off and not sliding.

    His size is also a liability. I don't care what the Bears list him as, he's small. This affects his slants, screens, and maybe even deep balls. Also might explain how he seems to get lost by the D when he starts running.

    Summary As I said before the game, Hanie might be constitutionally incapable of being a "game manager" ala Rex Grossman. An anti-Neckbeard, so to speak. As the BlogFather said, it's up to the coaching to temper him, but Martz isn't really the reigning in your qb type, so Lovie's gonna have to step in. Everything depends on this.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    More accurate than Cutler?

    Maybe only because his lofty throws (which take twice the time to get to his target) allow for the receiver to run underneath them...

    I can tell you this much - I vividly remember 3 throws that were garbage. Two interceptions, and the one that landed like 10 feet in front of Knox...

    Then again, I wasn't really paying attention, but I will going forward.

    I do tend to notice the bad ones way more than the good ones.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    That, and... JC can do no wrong.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    10 pts lol kinda wrong though Willie.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Did no one else see what he just did?

    ...sigh, I guess we always have to say

    See how I did that?

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Ha... Just you, me, and JC.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    SMH!

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Unfortunately, I don't have the NFL archives to review every play, lol but he looked accurate to me. Knox and some others dropped passes right in their hands. He needs to learn what Cutler learned: THROW IT TO BENNETT.

    the ints looked to me more like throwing it into double coverage, or trying to dump it off while running for his life, not seeing the LBs or DBs lurking.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Bingo; read those CAPS everyone.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Not sure about the accuracy. He uncorked some stinkers last Sunday and the weather was perfect. Cutler may not be the most accurate QB but he does a great job of dealing with the conditions at Soldier Field. The Detroit game would be exhibit A.

    The Julia Child Impersonator and the Midget Frat Boy kept crying about the wind after the game. Cutler didn't have a great game but he didn't throw a pile of picks.

  • hee hee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_buda5vWo&feature=youtu.be

  • The Arizona Republic reports that Martz is angling for the Arizona State coaching job just vacated by Dennis Erickson..

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm fairly certain he can see the writing on the wall.

  • hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvM3uNCvOgA&feature=player_embedded#at=50

  • Just noticed -->

    *Featured On Chicagonow*
    Cubs looking at Pujols

    (snicker)

  • One name not to rule out for the Jaguars job is Mike Martz. The new owner was a Rams season ticket holder

  • last night Shiloh cued up the Stooges classic
    Three Little Pigskins
    The boys were mistaken for the legendary
    Three Horsemen
    what I hadn't noticed before
    in the credits
    Lucille Ball
    Blonde and buxom
    being hit on by the legendary
    Larry Fine
    Lucy always fell for the musicians

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Wonder what mayhem awaits me tonight
    gotta go Shi is tapping his foot
    it is already
    half past 8

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Lucille Ball was quite the bombshell, actually. An extraordinary beautiful and talented woman. And if that were not enough, a redhead!

  • Martz mentally checking out before the season is over is probably not a good thing. A 3rd offense in Chicago in 4 years for Cutler would fucking suck. Continuity is key because it allows you to focus on bringing in talent to supplement what you already have. Starting everything over would be terrible.

  • to gpldan
    thanks for sharing
    the many interesting links
    you may like this
    one
    me thinks

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiG2daKuHfU

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    headphones
    full screen
    dark room
    come back
    we need you
    sunday

  • HIDING HANIE IS THE BEST OPTION its called hiding in where ever he came from cut him or sit him sign mcnabb, bulger, favre anybody and if they dont wanna start them let McCown or Enderle start HANIE SUCKs and give Kahlil Bell a chance 2 b honest forte doesnt deserve his little extension hes not consistent let him b hurt and use Bell and Barber

  • In reply to ChiTown231:

    why do the crazy newbies come here from the trib site when we win or lose.

    Jesus.

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