Chicago Bears at Oakland Raiders Game Preview (& the Picks Contest)

Chicago Bears at Oakland Raiders Game Preview (& the Picks Contest)

Program Note: There will be no Weekend Show! this week due to the holiday. We'll return to action next week with a full program. Also, only tobijohn recorded a perfect Thanksgiving as almost every one of you picked the 49ers.

It is next to impossible for anyone to truly predict what will happen when the Bears travel to Oakland for a late Sunday afternoon affair in northern California. To make the prediction, you have to know what the Bears are going to receive from Caleb Hanie at the quarterback position and I don't see how it's possible to know that. Nevertheless...

WHY DO I LIKE THE CHICAGO BEARS THIS WEEK?

  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • I don't think Caleb Hanie is going to light up the box score with his passing statistics because I'm a believer that much of the Bears passing production is due entirely to Cutler's ability to make throws only a handful of players in the league can make. What I love about Hanie in this offense is his mobility. When things break down, Hanie will lower his head and take off, moving the chains with his legs.
  • If you read my weekly preview column, I rarely lean on the cliched run the ball-stop the run maxim for winning a football game. The Raiders rush for 156.8 yards per game (3rd in football) and allow 131.6 a game (25th) on 5.2 per carry (31st). What does this mean? It means they run it well and don't stop the run at all and still win more games than they lose. But there is no way Carson Palmer is the same quarterback who diced the Bears secondary a few years ago at Soldier Field and if the Bears gang up on the run they will win this game.
  • I think this phone call happened Monday morning:

 Agent: Hey Caleb you know you're a free agent this winter, right?

Hanie: Uh huh.

Agent: You know that Kevin Kolb stinks and because he played one good quarter for the Eagles last year that dumbo Whisenhunt gave him $65 million, right?

Hanie: Uh huh.

Agent: Play well.

Hanie: Okay.

  • What makes this game against the Raiders so tough is their kickers. Sebastian Janikowski can all-but neutralize the Bears kick return game by booting the ball into the tenth row and Shane Lechler is one of the best punters to ever play the game. This is the only time all season where I'll be surprised to see Hester have a major special teams impact.
  • I say this all the time but the passing approach that defeats the Bears is an accurate QB comfortable hitting big receivers in front of the Bears corners when they play 7-10 yards off. That's not the approach Palmer takes with this offense. He's been living off the downfield pass. And if the Bears front four shows up and plays huge, Palmer will be a sitting duck.
  • Over the first five games (including a suffocating effort against the Falcons) the Bears defense allowed 24.4 points per game. Over the last five games, they've allowed 17 per game. They've improved by a full touchdown and they are now getting the turnovers which have been the signature of the Lovie Smith era. I think they carry the day.
  • Here's what I can't get over with Oakland. Their last two home games have been a four touchdown loss to the Kansas City Chiefs and a two touchdown loss to the Denver Broncos.
  • I think this game is going to be decided by Matt Forte in the screen game.

Chicago Bears 20, Oakland Raiders 17

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Your Lines This Week:

BENGALS -7.5 Browns / Texans -3.5 JAGS / Panthers -3.5 COLTS / TITANS -3 Bucs / FALCONS -9 Vikings / RAIDERS -5 Bears / SEAHAWKS -3.5 Redskins / Patriots -4 EAGLES / CHARGERS -6 Broncos / RAMS -2.5 Cardinals / JETS -8.5 Bills / Steelers -10.5 CHIEFS / SAINTS -7 Giants

The Brothers: Jon (22-10-1) - Giants, Texans, Bucs, Jeff (19-13-1) - Bears, Bengals, Jets, Chris (19-13-1) - Panthers, Bengals, Jets

The Commenter Perfect Weeks: tobijohn (4), New Bear in Town (3), FQD1911 (2), SC Dave (2), BigDaddy (2), BossBear90 (2), Ufficio (2),  Michael L (2), Shady (2), MikeV in OR (2), greenbayman (1), Sacramento's #1 Bears Fan (1), ben in norcal (1), CanadaBear (1), #76 Mongo Murph (1), TheFifth (1), DYLbears23 (1), EnderWiggin (1), IrishSweetness (1), Who is Willie Gault (1), SC Dave (1)

Note: Only two weeks remains in the Picks Contest. Unless eight contestants find themselves with three (3) perfect weeks you will need two (2) perfect weeks to qualify for the postseason the weekend of December 11th.

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  • Who would have thought Wan Eeghen first with Walter?!?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Yeah, yeah, I know penalty. And no, it is not veiled reference to some force that will lead to Bears victory.

    In keeping with modern culture, there has to be SOMEONE to blame other than myself. Yes, it's Jeff's fault for exposing my bifurcated personality in listing perfect scores.

    Seahawks
    Raiders
    Browns

  • Bears
    Steelers
    Patriots

  • Guy's a thug.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Detroit-bad-boys-Ndamukong-Suh-ejected-after-st?urn=nfl-wp12457

    Oh, and is matt schaub aaron rodgers (not as good) twin? poor guys.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wouldn't call him a thug. Stupid and cocky for sure but the guy needs a free head exam. After watching his press conference comments the word the comes to mind is, "delusional".

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Liar was the word that came to my mind

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yep that too. I think delusion has set in with the lad. He's young and has bitten off more than even he can chew.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Totally agree MB. I think he used to dominate in college and got away with everything because of his rep. When he got to the pro's he was good but not as dominant and doesn't know how to handle it. So he's resorted to a bunch of chippy, cheapshot BS. I'm guessing Goodell will give him 3-4 weeks off to think about it.

    Kevin Seiffert on ESPN NFL North blog wrote the Kitties lead the league in personal fouls since the midget took over. I would have bet money on that stat but didn't have any data to back it up.

  • Bears
    Seahawks
    Texans

  • Bears 24, Raydah's 9.

  • What's your thinking behind such confidence BD?

    Jeff, I'm guessing the Chiefs blew out the Raiders because Kyle Boller played a half ... and Palmer was sent in knowing only a few plays, which he called over and over. I watched that game because I needed the Raiders for a big payday. Carson seems to have found his groove.

    There are some very big prices to be had this week : Bears are 15/8 to beat OAK. TB are 6/4 to beat TEN. DEN are 11/5 to beat SD. The Jags are 13/8 at home to a Schaub-less HOU.

    Anyone fancy any of those?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    My reasons Irish.

    1)The Bears D has to come up big and they know it. I'm calling a defensive score or at the very least, 10 points to us will be set up by turnovers and smash mouth play.
    2)I see our O scoring at least 7 points on their own.
    3)Devin Hester to the rescue for 7.
    4)McFadden is out along with a slew of Raydah's.
    5)Tebow doesn't play for the Raydah's.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    You're more optimistic than me. I think the D will hold their own and get a TO or two. I think the O will get us some points. I agree with Jeff and I don't see us making much hay on special teams this week. Totally agree on #4. Don't know what to say about #5.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Bush is a monster though, McFadden being out doesn't affect them one bit it seems. I won't be surprised if the Bears win, but I just can't be sure enough to put down the readies.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Ha. It seems Madden Football sim came up with the same result. It had the Bears winning 13-10 with a Forte TD and it even threw a Hanie pick in the waning minutes for good measure. I think it's not even going to be close. Our Boys are rolling over teams on the bubble like the Raydah's.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    yep. I think madded had the eagles and lions too.

    the only thing it does well is ruin players years.

  • BENGALS -7.5 Browns / Texans -3.5 JAGS / Panthers -3.5 COLTS / TITANS -3 Bucs / FALCONS -9 Vikings / RAIDERS -5 Bears / SEAHAWKS -3.5 Redskins / Patriots -4 EAGLES / CHARGERS -6 Broncos / RAMS -2.5 Cardinals /

    Broncos +6
    Bucs +3
    Bears +5

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    oops.

    The last 3 .....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Thanks Irish. I so hate scrolling up top for the lines.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    HA!

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    You're welcome.

  • Bears
    Bengals
    Panthers

  • Trac, you're prediction is optimistic and i fucking LOVE it.

    I hope you all had a good thanksgiving. It's a good day when you can share a meal or a drink with family or friends...while watching Suh get kicked out of a game for being a scumbag.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Agree on all points.

    The roughing the passer call on Vanden Bosch seemed pretty marginal at best but the very next play he takes a cheapshot on Rodgers long after the ball is gone. To me, he's the ringleader on the DL for cheapshots and Suh, Avril and Fariley are happy to follow the vets example. Not to mention the midget frat boy with the Napoleon complex is a total enabler. It's amazing how fast I went from feeling sorry for the Kitties to disliking them more than the BiQueens.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Naw Canada. I just got done reading an article where one of his college team mates said he's always been like this. The guy isn't right in the head. Turns out nobody on Nebraska like the dude. Not surprising because I know the type. I had a guy with the same personality on one of my teams once. Guys like him are always beggin for a fight and lose sight of the line between aggressiveness and warped.

  • Bears +5
    Cards +2.5
    Broncos +6

  • Bears
    Panthers
    Texans

  • Bears
    Panthers
    Patriots

  • when suh went out lions defense looked like shit.

  • Off topic but I want to give thanks for this blog. I read the comments on a lot of articles on the internet. It's amazing how stupid and hateful the comments are. Either people are that unhappy or they just have to keep pounding on their agenda. Lions fans are trying to rationalize Suh's dirty play. How is that possible?

    Also, on the Velonews website (bicycle racing) the big agenda hate fest is doping in the sport. The comments hit a new low today. There is a review of a cookbook by a Dr, who has worked for various teams. He partnered up with a chef and had the cookbook published. The very first comment tries to tie this Dr to Floyd Landis (disgraced doper who had his Tour de France win taken away from him), and goes on a rant about doping. It's a review of a cookbook you idiot.

    Thanks to all of you for making this a safe haven from complete knobs (other than the trolls).

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I agree Canada. I try to avoid internet articles in general because i always find myself starting to read the comments at the bottom...usually shaking my head in disbelief. It's hard though because i love reading articles.

    We are just a bunch of animals. Some of us are just better looking than others and don't lick our balls in public and pee on buildings...anymore.

  • Bears
    Panthers
    Chargers

    48 hours from now I'll be out at the game... Can't wait!

  • be safe
    be loud
    bring home a raider pelt

  • Some disturbing news via silverandblackpride.com: the Raydas appear to have acquired some sort of secret weapon.

    -----------
    Yes, time to breakout New Toy

    by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 25, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply
    ------------
    Oh!! Ya!!...
    ...After we destroy their legs and their will to win then bring in the speed to run away with it.
    Beat them into submission then unleash the furry!!

    by PantyRaider on Nov 25, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply
    -------------

    Monsters of the Midway 20
    Oakland Furries 14
    +
    Bengals
    Panthers

  • In reply to M Onan Batterload:

    unless they secretly got TO to come in without shefless or glazer or clayton getting wind (which is pretty much impossible) to replace their injured THREE WRs, then I'm not scared.

    Wait, I'm not scared even if they're going to release the fucken kraken on the field. Fuck the raiders... fuck them in their silly painted paces.

  • Via the AP:

    GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers outside linebacker Erik Walden was arrested Friday on suspicion of felony domestic violence/substantial battery and will remain in the Brown County Jail until at least Monday.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d824760af/article/packers-lb-walden-to-remain-in-jail-over-the-weekend

  • I went around the office today and asked if any of the phantasy players had picked up Mr. Hanie for sunday
    not a one

    I know I am a rookie; but I will stick this sunleathered neck out and say they shoulda'

    I think he will do a great job for this team
    and enrich is agent and himself in the process
    I am expecting great things from the "rookie"

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Huntin, no one's gonna pick up Hanie for 2 reasons.

    1) FORTE. Everyone knows the Bears are run heavy now, or are trying to be run heavy, which means less QB production/points.

    2) Rookie status. It's always risky picking up a Rook (not named Newton), esp mid season.

    FF owners are pretty savvy and realize that the Bears are going to try winning it with D and SP teams, not QB play.

    Hell, I haven't even picked up Hanie, and I know he can win on the field, just maybe not in FF land.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    being in sync with winnie the pooh
    I am a bear fan of very little brains

    but I still think Mr. Hanie throws the ziffle all over the field and amazes the critics
    of course I am also a dreamer
    and maybe the only one

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    plus these freinds have been very hard on my bears
    for as long as I can remember
    so calling a great game for Mr. Hanie will give me some
    purchase
    when I count coup on them with the famous sandbox line
    "I told Ya so"

    I got nothin' to lose
    they will still show my team little or no respect

  • FALCONS -9
    Patriots -4
    Steelers -10.5

  • Bears
    Bucs
    Texans

  • NFL Dr. talks about the different hand injuries around the league.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-around-the-league/09000d5d824768bf/Doctor-in-the-house?module=HP11_content_stream

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    nice find end. good vid.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    two non-broken thumbs up.

    Concise explanation about the hand jobs Roeth, Cassel, Cutler and Stafford have received.

    Wait a minute...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    i wish i had this kind of help before I entered high school
    after my left hand slipped off.......
    and was injured when it hit the bottom of the soap dish

    it didn't affect my "game" though
    as I learned to become ambidexterous
    and was back on the "playin' field" in a couple of hours

  • Good news. Much better to have a delpleted raiders team for haney's first start.

    BradBiggs about 3 hours ago #Raiders rule RB Darren McFadden, WR Jacoby Ford, DE Jarvis Moss out for Sunday's game vs #Bears

    BradBiggs about 3 hours ago #Raiders have 9 players questionable: WR Heyward-Bey, DE Houston, S Huff, CB Johnson, RB Jones, S Mitchell, WR Moore, DT Seymour, RB Tonga

  • Also, we have another new long snapper!?? What happened to Jake Laptop? I thought we already signed him? Anyone have the 411?

    ...and check this out: "Jets' Slauson says former college teammate Suh 'out of control"

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/jets/jets_slauson_suh_is_out_of_control_hZS50vtS1Ti4VvUGhd44pN#ixzz1elsyIhmZ

    I'm calling it right now... dude's bipolar. Watch.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's the article I was referring to above MB. I don't think the guy is bi-polar. He's just been living in a bubble for so long that he's lost touch with reality. I really think he is delusional and thinks he's unstoppable. A heavy suspension will be a healthy wake up call I think. Up till now, nobody has ever said no to him in a meaningful way. A few fines don't make a dent in the kinda money he makes but I think public shame will do wonders.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    The spoiled child syndrome.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    more like asshole syndrom

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    At last, we share common ground.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    we usually do Trac... well, sometimes we usually do. (see how I did that?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    they have creams for that

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    People have been blowing smoke up his ass for so long and then he's the first pick of the draft. He's lost the plot. He even made the sports news on Aljazeera today ... as Nick Hannity was sucking Dick Cheney's cock over on Fox.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Suh is delusional, but Schwartz is definitely a liar:

    ...Schwartz never criticized the stomping act itself. He said Thursday he didn’t see the incident happen live nor watch the replay, and today on Sirius, he said his view “was pretty well blocked” on the field...
    http://www.freep.com/article/20111125/SPORTS01/111125033/1049/rss14

    Obviously he doesn't want to be questioned in detail about the stomp, for good reason, but he's too arrogant to think he needs to come up with something more believable than, "I saw nothink."

  • Detroit has lost 4 out of the last 6 games. I don't think Detroit can win more than 3 games to finish out the season.

    This is how I see the NFC going into the playoffs.

    GB #1
    San Fran #2
    Saints #3
    Cowboys #4
    Bears #5
    Falcons #6

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    That sounds about right. So the Bears would play the Cowboys in Dallas and the Falcons would play the Saints in NO? And the winners of those games would play who?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Packer get the lowest seeded team in that scenario, which would be us (assuming we win and the saints win). I would prefer the falcons to win so that we get San Fran and a chance at revenge on the championship game.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Cowboys???? Cowboys Trac?!?!

    Maybe I'm just a hopeless homer, but I think we're a better team than the cowboys even with Haney. They were dogshit last night, and as much as ESPN or fox or cbs tries to hype miami as a hot-streak contender that they beat, they aren't. (they beat KC, Washington, Bills)

    The cowboys beat a dogshit team... barely. I'm pretty sure that we would crush them and will end up with a better schedule. They still have the giants twice, at tampa and finish with philly (always dangerous). And the last 4 teams Cowboys beat were seattle, buffalo, washington (barely), miami (barely).

    Basically they both suck, and we're a much better team than either of them… even with haney at the helm.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would rather play the Cowboys than the Giants. Romo is trash and our D could easily come up with 3+ picks. Giants always play us well however, and with their secondary healing up it'll only help their front 7 get even more pressure on the offensive line. It is in everyone's best interest for the Boys to clean up and the Giants to tank (IMO)

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    agree... but the cowboys are a worse team than the giants. was just stating a fact... not the best case scenario.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I agree completely.

    Although, it would it would be sweet to shut down the talks of Eli(-te) personally....maybe not as sweet as rubbing Jerry Jones face into his big screens as Hester returns a punt back for a TD on them, but sweet nonetheless.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No matter how you cut it, the Cowboys have the better conference and divisional record MB and they are a half game up now. The Giants lost to Philly against Vince Young even after he threw three picks. I don't see the Giants winning their division anymore. Just my gut instinct.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    fair enough... I haven't been paying much attention to any of the NFCE teams this year (except the eagles). I just know what I saw the other night, and we are a MUCH better team even with Mr. Hankey.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    The Giants also have short-bus rider Eli Manning under center which is a massive handicap in itself. The same goes for the Ravens, Jets and Cowboys

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    common maing, while flacco ain't brady... that ravens team is a beast. For some really strange reason, they've played up to the level of their opponents this year.

    They've lost to what... 3 shitty teams, and are 4-1 against all .600+ teams they've played. I REALLY don't want to meet up with them in the playoffs. That Dline and suggs are a fucking nightmare... especially for us. And their secondary doesn’t suck either, led by Mr. Reed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, they've beaten the steelers twice, houston, bungles, jets, and SF. They lost to tenn, jags, and seattle... weird.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe the Ravens are the AFC's version of the Saints?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was only talking about Flacco, but the Seahawks coasted over the Ravens and their offense is pretty anaemic from what I've seen. Their defense keeps them in games no doubt. The Niners ain't all that either, it amazes me they've only lost two games.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    The Giants have had a BRUTAL schedule compared to the Cowgirls. If they end up winning the division, they're going to be battle tested.

    I still think the Cowgirls will self-destruct, but now they have Murray, so Romo may not get as many chances to go Romo.

  • hee hee....

    http://abc.go.com/shows/jimmy-kimmel-live/video-detail/clips/kimmel-kartoon-charlie-brown-debates/pl_PL5520978/vd_VD55154877

  • Saints
    Seahawks
    Bears

  • It begins.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/25/lions-say-suh-failed-to-meet-the-level-of-sportsmanship-we-expect/

    The only question I have is, will he learn from what's about to be handed down to him from the League front office? I truly don't believe this guy is incapable from learning from this. In the NFL where bravado can sometimes super cede reality, I think the best antidote for Suh's predicament is for him to be given a healthy dose of reality by being given a multiple game suspension, effective immediately. I don't think anything less than a 3 game suspension will be appropriate.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    “The on-field conduct exhibited by Ndamukong Suh that led to his ejection from yesterday’s game was unacceptable and failed to meet the level of sportsmanship we expect from our players

    “the level of sportsmanship we expect from our players” – TRANSLATION = 2-3 second late hits on helpless QBs, ripping helmets off heads, pulling guys down by the back of their necks, going after knees in garbage time, spearing, and smashing someone’s helmet into the turf repeatedly are all fine. But stomping on someone while they are down, 8-10 seconds after the play WHILE all the refs are just standing around watching is simply NOT lions football. It’s a sad event that never should have happened (in front of the refs), and in order to desperately try and minimize the amount of time we’ll lose our star player, our PR guys is willing to write this annonymous public demand that all of our players revert to playing our type of football… you know, lions football... by making sure to only do 2-3 second late hits on helpless QBs, ripping helmets off heads, pulling guys down by the back of their necks, going after knees in garbage time, spearing, and smashing someone’s helmet into the turf repeatedly (while the refs are NOT looking). Thank you, the lions management and players.

    And then there’s suh himself…

    “In the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game and I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration,” Suh wrote Friday evening. “My reaction on Thursday was unacceptable. I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning.”

    Let’s break this down…

    In the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game – TRANSLATION: in the past few hours Yosemite schwarts, the GM, and the Owner all called me and told me that goodell is going to kick my ass and I better make a public fucking apology instead of lying out of my fat thug ass about balance or some other ridiculous shit.

    I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration – TRANSLATION: I feel sorry for myself that I got caught and will now be used as a scapegoat for all dirty play in the NFL (conducted mostly by the rest of my team). I’m sorry to the gangbangers and bullies who look up to me for how to terrorize innocent people everywhere.

    I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning – TRANSLATION: I still don’t see what the big deal is about, and don’t think I’m in the wrong at all, and will go back to trying my hardest to not get caught for my repeated cheapshots. I MUST get better at hiding my efforts to hurt other players from refs and tv cameras alike, and I will redouble my efforts to do exactly that. And now our team can go back to doing what it’s proven to be best at… sore loosing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think the only message worthy of getting through to the Lad is, "you're not gonna get away with it anymore". You can't ever force someone to change, you can only let them know there will be consequences and force them to deal with them. Selah, such is life.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hilarious MB. Of course, it's hilarious because it's true. Lions football, WTF is that? I'm pretty sure he'll get 2-4 games, appeal and not sit out for a few weeks.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    that would make God-dell look weak
    he has to let the suspension undercut this type behavior immediately
    and issue strong, unmistakeable language
    and if the union has any chance of looking credible they will refuse to arbitrate this one

    As a union steward for 18 years; I would never support a carrier who was out of control
    Either you were dignified and upstanding
    or I threw you and your case under the bus

    I say let the axe fall hard on the broken mind of
    The Boy Named Suh

  • Anyone who wants to escape to the Sixties for a while and see Ken Kesey's Magic Trip - a film which was in editing for about 40 years, walk this way ....

    http://deditv.com/play.php?v=cc6dbbe557400578a83a555ac8221fd4

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    here is a space pilot who has experience and cred

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hW6Dm_m5t4

    I tried to find a u-tube cip from his movie
    Fierce Grace
    where he, Richard Alpert, gives a great bit of personal history about his time at, Millbrook, with Leary, Houston, ect.
    but, was unsuccessful

    it is a great bit of history; about 20 minutes into the film
    the whole film is very powerfull
    but not everyone's cup of tea

    last year I was burying my dad at arlington
    and took in a show at a D.C. art museum gallery; that was showing a retrospective of photographs from Ginsberg
    He had alot of photos from the experiments that were going on at Millbrook while he was in attendance

    it gave me greater insight to the experience there, that I did not pick up from the movie;
    plus his personal Play By Play was intrigueing

  • Thanks for that link. Got to dig out the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test again....

  • Bears, Patriots, Chargers

  • Feeling bad for Doc (and myself) as we watch the Civil War game become a blow out by the Ducks over the Beavs.

    Sorry Doc, at least we had good weather for the game. We'll get 'em next year.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    sorry doc
    hope you and your mates had a ton of fun otherwise
    the ducks suck
    they had 2 games they needed to win
    and came up wanting in both
    I was less than impressed
    as they created dissaster in the turnover department

  • Bears
    Broncos
    Texans

    YEAH!

  • New Orleans

    Pittsburgh

    New England

  • Believe it or not, I actually DON'T think Suh INTENDED to stomp on that guys arm.

    You can see in the replay that he is looking away from the play when he stamps his foot down and didn't see he was about to stomp and arm. He wasn't being a goon at that point (he'd already attended to that earlier on the play by mashing the guy's helmet to the turf a few times), he was just doing a dead-on impression of an 8-year old's tantrum.

    That said, it's the same as slamming a car door in anger and accidently smashing somebody's hand in the process. You didn't INTEND to smash anybody's hand, but you DID and you're responsible!

    Commissioner Al gives Suh a week off to get his attention and second week off for that insulting non-apology.

    In related news...

    I agree with CandaBear. Vanden Bosch IS the chief head-hunter. I'm betting he was likely flagged for said "marginal" hit because the Zebras have been told to watch him. Fairley's rep as a goon is well-founded and Avril seems happy to fill out the Lions' goon squad.

    Coach Schwartz is soooo transparent. For him to blather that "I really didn't see it..blah blah blah, yada, yada, yada " is LAUGHABLE and this feigned "ingorance" is tantamount to TACET APPROVAL. Commisioner Al calls HIM on the carpet and tells him "You clean it up, or I will and if I have to clean it up I PROMISE you that A) You won't like it and B) You won't won't need to draw up any post-season game plans.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nah, Suh looks down at Dietrich-Smith, raises his cleats, and delivers the blow as he turns away. The target was already locked-in.
    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/football/nfl/11/25/ndamukong.suh.ap/ndamukong-suh1.jpg

    His leg came down at an angle from his center of gravity. It had to, to hit Smith. Seems odd, if he just wanted to stomp the ground.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/bawanaal/stomping.jpg

    Plus, he must have known, when his foot landed, that it landed on something other than flat earth. But he didn't look back to see what. He would have done so, instinctively, had it been a surprise to him.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    All, Batterload is right, he looks right at him and stomps him. Completely obvious.
    If Suh is not suspended for at least 3 to 5 games then the league has a different set of rules for commerically viable players as opposed to those that have waned in popularity. It would be hypocritical to put the screws to Haynesworth and not Suh.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    he used to be a man
    after his tantrum he will now be known to me
    until further notice as

    "The Boy Named Suh"

    that's 'Boy' as in little child

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  • headed to game tomorrow, ill be rootin for hanie, have a goodn all

  • I just realized: Vegas(according to Mike L's Pickem league) has Pats @ Eagles as a push. I wonder where Blogfather got the -4 Pats spread...

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    Not a big deal, I think the Pats win by two scores. Still, I thought Vegas did all the spreads.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    A push? Did they sign a quarterback other than Vince Young and I missed it?

  • Today we find out if Hanie will prove that he deserves the status of a true NFL backup QB. If there's one thing Bears fans love, it's the underdog label that allows us to prove the pundits wrong. There's a lot riding on today's game and the Bears find themselves looking to an undrafted free agent to keep their playoff hopes alive. If Hanie can do more than just not lose this game, he will find himself raised upon the shoulders of Bears fans across the country. Great story lines will be written if he is able to serve up a solid performance today and I believe he can and will come up big today.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/behindthemic/#/nfl/2011/11/22/112211.btm_boomer_bears

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  • Haynesworth once ripped the helmet off an OL and stomped on his face, causing the guy to need 18 stitches in his face.

    For that, he was hit with 2 games. Suh just gets one.

    The real contrite act comes from his contract stipulation, which states that his annual salary can be prorated down by 1/18 if he misses a game due to NFL suspension for on field behavior. Whatever 1/18 of Suh's salary is this year, it's more than the fines the NFL has been handing down. That should get his numskull attention.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Like OMG...like, where have you been???

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hoping for the Bears to rally around Hanie but old enough to know how it will probably play out. I don't have anything to add above what's being said here. Except that all of Martz proclamations about how Hanie has matured and grown is so much smoke. Hanie is the opposite of a Martz QB, and Martz is going to have to hold his nose and craft a game plan that plays to Hanie's strengths and mobility.

    Cutler was winnning with his arm. His throw to Davis against the chargers in the back of the endzone was a throw only a few NFL Qbs would even try, watch it again and see how narrow that window was and the zip he has on that ball. Hanie will never throw those passes.

    The whole game comes down to being able to mix Forte and Barber up in a way that gains 4-5 yrs/carry. If the Raiders stack, and dare Hanie to throw over them, it could be a long day.

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  • Suh's getting hit with a two game suspension per Schefter, plus a 25k fine from the Lions, and possibly mandatory anger management classes. And yeah, since he's missing out on games he's losing 164k from that too.

    Don't think he's gonna learn from this it'll be fun to see what happens the next time he loses it.

  • In reply to Wicket:

    Well, that's pretty severe, given he caused no harm to the opposing player. 2 games usually requires something that causes lasting pain.

    I would give his anger management classes to Schwartz. A team reflects the character of their coach. Schwartz has Fairley and others playing this way too. The D line are thugs.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP - i think the 2 game hit would be the league taking into account the fact that Suh literally tries to twist guys heads off which would actually kill someone eventually. I think I saw VanDamme do it once when he was infiltrating some military installation.

    An old teammate finally came out and straight up called Suh out for what he tries to do which is severly hurt opponents QB's. He is a dirty guy and the league of the 40's through the 1980's is gone and probably for the better. Every dude that played during those times is a fucking mess now.

    Read the Lions blogs and shake your head. If Peppers was the one who tried to break Stafford's neck....literally, they would be just as vehment in their anger and disgust as they are in their defense of their hitman.

    Speaking of hitmen, Chris Harris turned all Vasher on us and is now a fucking eyesore on the football field.

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