Where Do the Bears Go From Here?

Where Do the Bears Go From Here?

As the Cubs steal headlines of both major dailies with their procurement of Theo Epstein's services, the Bears slide to the second sports story until Sunday night's contest with the Minnesota Vikings at Soldier Field.  They are beginning a two-week stretch of must win football games against their current division rival to the west and their former division rival (Tampa) in the eastern most location of the NFL - London, England.  (I will write extensively next week about how ridiculous I find this London game and how Roger Goodell's manifest destiny concept for the NFL will be his ultimate undoing as commissioner.)

Where do the Bears go from here?  They are five weeks into the 2011 campaign and have more far more questions than answers.  Can they find professional, capable safety play out of the combination of Harris, Meriweather, Steltz and whomever else they pull off random practice squads?  Can they find any consistency at the receiver position without making a big splash before the trade deadline - perhaps acquiring a former favorite target of Mr. Cutler residing in Miami, Florida?  Can they survive another game without Gabe Carimi and with Frank Omiyale?

I don't know the answer to any of these questions.  That's unfair.  I know the answer to the third question.  No.  If the Bears had guts they would have released Frank Omiyale first thing Tuesday morning and sent him to the UFL, if that's still around.  I don't believe J'Marcus Webb is going to become Anthony Munoz anytime soon but I'm willing to forgive him the mistakes of a young, raw talent attempting to adapt to one of the most difficult positions in football.  Omiyale is a dreadful, dreadful football player and his time is beyond gone.

Needless to say the Bears need to get better.  They need to improve.  And they have plenty of time to do so.  A lot of fans, many of you reading this column, would prefer to just type FIRE ANGELO NOW or LOVIE HAS TO GO or CLICHED NEGATIVE FOOTBALL FAN THING.  And that's understandable, given the way the season has started.  But I will wait to light the torch and hunt the beast until the Bears are mathematically eliminated from postseason contention.  Then and only then will my focus shift from 2011 to 2012.  There is no fun for me in rooting for failure, rooting for change at the top, even if that's what I know must take place for the organization to find sustained, long term success.  I live to watch this club every Sunday and there will never be a Sunday I don't root for them to shellack the opponent.

The next two weeks will determine whether the Bears play meaningful football games in the months of November and December.  Winning both will put them at 4-3 heading into the bye, giving them a chance to get fully healthy for the backstretch.  But just as important as winning both games would be seeing the Bears improve and gain confidence in the plaguing areas of the first five weeks.  Beating Minnesota and Tampa won't be rewarding if they continue to hand out free rushing yards like candy on Halloween and the Cover 2 continues looking like the Cover Who.  Beating Minnesota and Tampa won't matter if Jared Allen ends Jay Cutler's season with a couple blindside hits.

So where do the Bears go from here?  They go to Soldier Field Sunday night.  They play the Minnesota Vikings.  The Vikings will want to hand the ball to Adrian Peterson 30-plus times and right now Les Frazier believes that approach can beat the Bears.  If it doesn't, if the Bears win, they're back to .500.  Back to the land of the living.  And if the Bears beat the Vikings we can assume they've solidified, to some extent, the rush defense.

There are no big fixes.  2011 is now a game-by-gamy proposition.  And Sunday night is a very big game.

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  • Agreed - first thing to do it get rid of Omelette.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Well, "is" get right of Omlette. Getting a professional caliber player in at right tackle would be a big help. Omiyale is pretty much the weakest player on the roster, although Roy Williams is giving him a run for his money.

    Second thing is to get Earl Bennett back, although I vastly prefer he not try to return too soon and risk being out more games that way.

    Third, the defensive line had to decide whether they want to play football this year. It certainly does not look that way. If they continue to suck, then Marinelli/Lovie need to start blitzing safeties in passing situations. This would not be much of a loss as they don't cover anyone anyway.

    Firing Angelo seems more and more essential every time that turd opens his mouth. The guy astonishes me - do you suppose he thinks that fans actually believe anything he says?


  • Coin Toss Conversation at this Sunday Night's game..

    Ref... Heads or tails?
    Lach...Hey my coach wants to know if you want this game?
    Peterson..Hey my coached asked the same
    Ref....both your teams are racing for the basement and it maybe a tie or at least that's were you are headed...

    lobo...DId you see how I did that?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    no, can you please 'splain it to me Lobo?

  • The SC Dave thread. Very nice Dave.

    Let me see:
    1. yes
    2. Yes, yes, yes...and please god above in heaven blessed be thy neighbor’s YES!!!!
    3. Yes.

    I think that covers it dave.

  • Is anyone goin to blame martz? I mean is he not at fault as any other coordinator. He knows curtler was getting killed around the edges. He still persisted on seven step drops. I mean is their any play in our book that is designed to NOT gettin the QB killed? Their should be. quick throwas. Three step passes. Something to wear down the opposing d, and relieve the pressure.

  • Fres.....yep...I chose my avatar.. wisely this year.."The Three Stooges"

    Glitchy aka Moe
    LDL aka Larry
    and of course our favorite, Curly...played by our Clusterfucker Master Martzy!

  • you mean like a real oline Fres?

    Agreed though, nothing will change without change. I know it's so cliché, and every fan cries fire everyone in the front office with every bad season... but this is a chronic (not that kind fres, settle down) problem that has been manifesting and festering for years. I think this is finally the time.

    We've given it plenty of time and opty to turn around and disprove the obvious trends we've all been seeing. This is the year to start over... we're going to have to any with the state/age of our stars. We can either rebuild with Angelo and end up no better off in the coming years getting beatdown by the pack and lions every year… or bite the bullet and install a new regime who will at the very least give us a shot at success. (I'm tired of the, 'grass is greener', and 'be careful what you wish for' admonishing because those copouts persist the unacceptable status quo)

  • Mike Martz is proving to be no significant improvement over Ron Turner, and those of you that remember my too frequent diatribes regarding him surely know how much it pains me to write that.

    Martz has a little more imagination, I suppose, but is no better at adapting a system to available talent.

  • Peppers MCL sprain?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    yes. 2-3 weeks

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    In the last thread, I posted that this might be a blessing in disguise as the rest of the defensive line will hopefully feel forced to step up and make plays now that Peppers is not there to do so.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    To be honest, I've seen from flashes from Nick Reed that make me hope the guy can play. We have 2 to 3 weeks to see what he and Wootton(?) can do it seems.

  • This is the same offense three years in a row. What's the next move?

  • This is what mccaskeys should be asking.

  • Mike Martz only has 21 games as Chicago's OC. It j ust feels like 3 years

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    It feels a lot longer than that, cheese.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    TBC..if you calculate that in dogs years..........youch!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    everygame is a year...is that correct? oh sheite!

  • From Da Site
    “I don’t think anyone could foresee us being ranked that [low],” Tillman said. “It’s time to do some soul searching and see what each of us is really made of. We can either tuck our tails between our legs and go run away or man up and fight and get this thing turned around.”

    Better late than never, Peanut.

  • here's my deal dave. We are the only team we've played this year (and much or last even) that does not make any adjustments at halftime. In fact, it seems like we greatly digress coming back out, because the other team has made major adjustments and what we were doing before simply doesn't work any more. That's the part that's most brutal to me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's the beauty of "the system". The cover 2, 3, 1, no one. It works if you have really good players that execute it perfectly. If not, uh-oh. Now that we're getting hit with injuries with no viable replacements and our best D players are showing their age, we're totally fucked. It used to be the other team knew what we were going to do but weren't up to the task of defeating our good D personnel. Now everyone is up to the task.

    If we get smoked by the BiQueens (a distinct possibility), we'll be in free fall. I've never in my life pulled for the Bears to lose and I won't start now. However, if we totally shit the bed this year, the McCheapsky's have to fire Pus Nuts. Even those dumbasses HAVE to know his ability to judge talent is beyond horrible. Lovie just got extended so I doubt he gets launched. There's no way Martz comes back. Lovie is more than willing to let coaches go to save his ass. Not to mention the McCheapsky's won't owe Martz any dough after this season.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm in the choir for that sermon, MB.

    The worst of it is this characteristic has not survived swapping out most of the regime, as attested by the most painful example of all - SB XLI.

  • crazy. fucking. aussies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDl_DDRllBk

    Oh, and this just proves how incredibly lame steve young and anyone that likes him are... man I hate steve young (the announcer, not the player): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pjNwjtHVxKs#!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I hate flash mobs more. That shit is retarded.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    so with you maing. I just don't get it?!? Like that stupid fucking planking shit... some people died doing that. As far as i'm concerned it's darwinism at it's finest and most true.

    Don't people have better things to be doing with their lives? Why don't you go 'flash-feed the homless'... or 'flash-build housing for the homeless' or some such shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great Idea!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It was all women. Usually the only men that join in are playing for the other team. I've never seen one live. I hope to never see one live. Bunch of frustrated entertainers that aren't even talented enough to get on a fucked up reality show.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Its such a bitch move. I long for the days when the mugger had the balls to do it all by himself. Kids today.....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Crikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that left a mark...............LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • danpompeiabout 4 hours agoBears post game film session: good, bad and ugly. http://t.co/QNT9vKpf

    btw, big toe out with knee too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow, he gave the O line a grade of 1. Is that good?

  • Don't know how much you guys read ESPN's site but there's a couple of things that crack me up. They are pushing Grantland, some site presented by Bill Simmons. Of course, it will be a pay site. Simmons was funny about 5 years ago. Since then he's just been an opinionated ass that's way too full of himself. Who would pay for that shit?

    Also, ESPN has been pushing the total QB rating system instead of the old QB rating system. Each have flaws but the total QB rating system is a joke. First off, a QB gets downgraded for sacks. I understand the idea, QB holds onto the ball too long and gets sacked. However, Monday night is a perfect example of the fallacy of that line of thinking. Also, Rodgers had a lower total QB rating last week than Tebow (who was 4-10). HMMMMMM. Just one more example of ESPN trying to recreate a wheel that didn't need recreating. I'm so happy I don't have to watch ESPN up here.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    ESPN is definitely best avoided.

  • Jeff, I hear you on living for Sunday's, BUT, too be more truthful, Bears fans have been living for Sundays, only to die a little on Sundays. There's something kinda twisted about that when you really think about that. I'm through with that experience. I'd much rather accept another lost season and dream of the future.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Being a Bears fan has never been easy.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Amen. I think that's part of the reason I love being one so much. Can you imagine how good it will feel in 2034 when we finally win a Super Bowl!? Man I hope I'm not dead.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Bring an ipad with you in your coffin, just in case.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    And Angelo will still be GM.

  • This feels like FUBAR...for Sunday

    Julius Peppers Peppers sustained a sprained MCL in his left knee during the first half of Monday's game against the Lions and remains questionable to play Sunday against the Vikings.

    Corey Wootton DE Ques Sun - Hand - 10/11/11 Wootton missed the Bears Week 3 game due to a hand injury and remains questionable for Sunday's game against the Vikings.

    Chris Spencer C Ques Sun - Hand - 10/11/11 Spencer suffered a broken hand in Week 4 and was active Week 5 against the Lion's but did not play. He remains questionable for Sunday's game against the Vikings.

    Gabe Carimi T Doub Sun - Knee - 10/11/11 Carimi suffered a subluxation of his right knee cap in Week 2 against the Saints and will miss three to four weeks as a result. He is not expected to play on Sunday against the Vikings.

    Earl Bennett WR Mid Oct - Chest - 9/26/11 Bennett is recovering from a bruised chest, an injury he suffered in Week 2 against the Saints, and is hoping to return to the team by mid-October.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I read that Wooton broke his hand. The no injury karma from last year has really come full circle this year.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Bruise my ass. That shits broke.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    (referring to Earl)

  • Hey Glitchy..your a fucking idiot:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    One of the questions from this page:
    LM: How do you explain the eight false start penalties the offense drew Monday night in Detroit? Was it a lack of experience? A lack of composure?

    JA: “It was a lack of poise. We didn’t handle the surge of that atmosphere, which we all expected. We did a poor job, and I’m very disappointed in that. I’ve never seen anything like that. Hopefully that’s an aberration. For me to sit here and say one specific thing about why it happened, I can’t do that. I’ve never seen anything like that. Obviously, that can’t happen.”

    Glitchy......I've never seen anything like it?? ......WTF...same sheite from our O-line last year you dipshit....do you not pay attention to your own team?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    If by "his own team" you mean, The Packers, then Yes. Yes he does.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    No offense Lobo but why are you reading that site? During the good times it makes fans laugh because it's all propaganda. During bad times it makes fans mad as hell because it's total bullshit.

  • McNabb is the suck


  • Terrell Pryor on Al Davis passing away.

    “I talked to him a couple of times a week,” Pryor told 93.7 the Fan in Pittsburgh, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “Once a week at least. It was just talking to a legend like that. Him just passing away . . . it sucked.

    It sucked?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:


  • Jeff, on your previous thread you stated that the acquisition of Marshall would send the message that "We're going to do everything possible to make our franchise quarterback successful".

    To date, they have done absolutely nothing possible, why does that change now?

    Next question, hypothetical, if you are a NFL offensive linemen and your name is BELOW Frank Omigod on the depth chart, do you instantly retire?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Yes fucking retire, or just walk away from Da bears

  • A quote from an article I read on the trib yesterday, "these coaches and management are hold cutlers career hostage"

    I guess that's one good way to put it

  • Holding*
    Sorry guys my phone can be retahhhhdid

  • Also an unrelated side note, I cant wait for the NBA lockout to end so players will stop making terribly unfunny videos for funnyordie.com

  • In reply to Dmband:

    The NBA players are locked out? Who knew?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    This guy did.

    If Derrick Rose played for the Bears we'd have won SIX of the last five games.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    It kind of sucks not being able to see him blow past opposing point guards on his way to the rim. I guess 2k12 will have to hold us over.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    do you mean to tell me you have not continued to follow the Vancouver Grizzlies? For shame canada. For shame

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I feel shame. I'm 5'3" and can't jump (never could). At my athletic best if I got a good run at the basket and timed my jump perfectly, I could touch the bottom of the net. Never did watch basketball. The first 40+ years of my life I lived within 3 hours of Chicago. I loved (in order) Bears, Cubs, Blackhawks, White Sox. The only Chicago team I didn't follow won it all 6 times. Once I moved to Canada I became a Flames fan and the Hawks won it all. Somehow that sums up my life as a sports fan.

  • I can see that. But I can also see Cutler giving up at parts of a game when the going gets tough instead of rallying his troops and getting it done!

  • +1

    Wish he could be a tad bit more vocal with his WR and Oline.

  • If omellette sucked big balls last year and is actually worst this year. Why is he on the team.
    With all the money we got, is the really the best we can get?

  • He*

  • Hey Fres...remeber "We are all set" that's why Omlettee is still here.

  • Forget I asked. I forgot who our GM is.

  • At what point does Cutler just sack up and start changing plays in the huddle. I mean seriously just f*cking change these terrible plays. What does he have to lose? He has a longer contract than any coach on the team.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    DM..agree, if I were Cutty as the play is called in his helmet I'd turn around flip Martzy off and call my own play. roll outs, shotgun etc. and then say "F" YOU Martzy kiss the boil on my arse!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    It WOULD be nice if he had a bit of Jim McMahon in him. And Jimmy Mac did that with DITKA. Can you imagine what he would have done with LDL and the Wizard as his brain trust? Chripes that would be EPIC.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I feel like towards the end of Turner he was doing that... It was either they let him call the plays or he was changing them... Maybe against St. Louis or something...

    Fuck it, take the reigns off and let's see what kind of "cerebral" QB we have. The guy never struck me as a genius, but definitely not a retard. And plus, if "genius" equals Martz - i don't want one.

  • great vid..to get you primed for the WP "A football Life" on three letter network


  • PS. Im going to allow someone to steal the following moniker for future hilarity.

    "Frank Omiyales Backup".

    Its yours. and your welcome.

  • Cutler is according to stats a much better rollout, bootleg, and playaction passer. Why doesnt Martzy get this? Especially when Cutler is getting killed inside the pocket.

    Cmon son switch the gameplan up.

  • I heard a stat earlier from Laurence Holmes that Cutler was "under pressure" 50% of the pass plays, and completed 75% of those passes in which he was "under pressure". Pretty good.

  • Q: What's the difference beteween Frank Omiyale and a turnstyle?

    A: It takes longer to get past the turnstyle.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Franks true calling- http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/3442743

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al...tee hee hee

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Well usually you have to push/turn the turnstile... All you need to get past FO apparently is to blow past him.

    (Okay, yeah, slight exaggeration. But it definitely looked brutal at times out there...)

  • Cutty should watch the first 30 seconds of this and realize this is what he needs to do:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    good for him man. Fucken a.

  • Hey, when the going gets tough, the tough go...shopping in NYC?

    Hell, why the fuck not? They might want to fit his clothes to allow for a full back brace though.


  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    Cutty...a new metrosexual!!!!!

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    nice sd

  • And I'll just toss this one into the room....read, and attack when ready.


  • There is a dylan family song to go along with these times of forlorn.
    All of the promise of a few tweaks to our Model 2010; have gone by the wayside.
    Now we find out how good this 2011 Thing; is gonna do off road
    Don't worry about messin' anything up
    it's dented already

    After I saw some interest on the reciever named marshal: i thought to myself....hey the last guy I remember named marshal was one of our best ever.....steady, could make a freak play to change things in our favor....so i decided to show some interest

    I asked a miami authority , who is a great judge of talent....he always tells me that.... and he said.....
    I ask "what do you think, the boys in chicago want Marshal, for about a third round draft pick?"
    He says,"the dolphins need to first get rid of the head coach; GM; then start trading players for picks."
    I asked,"the boys say he drops to many passes>"
    He says,"you have to consider who is throwing the ball to him. The QBs never throw the ball in the correct spot. They stink, he is always having to make accrobatic catches. That may be why they think he drops alot.
    He had success before with cutler, why not."

    Now today I see in the trib a few crumbs about jay
    one an interview about TO
    the other a video of jay
    I can tell...... in the most polite way he can.......
    he is asking to have a bit more control over his destiny
    check them out and read Biggs' bit on it

    He deserves to be given the opportunity to choose the way he is going to take his punishment
    on his terms ; or in the Martz scheme of things

    he makes an interesting statement, about how hard it would be for a reciever to have an impact; with so much of the season gone by.
    i wonde;r if he were in a normal offense, maybe marshal would be easier to fit in, and the familiarity with jay would become an asset.

    in the video jay indicates that it is time to change up the tempo
    i believe he would be great in a no huddle; maybe some day. But, he does say it is time to get rid of the ball quicker.

    it seems martz has been worked slowly week by week into a smaller box.
    we are still in the fundamental stages; but, fundamentals build a strong foundation that can be built upon with certainty.

    To the Midnight Poster
    Irish ---this is for you
    it's for your fed fix, just in case you are jonesn'
    The article....CHARTS; Here's What The Wall Street Protesters Are So Angry About.....Henry Blodget
    The CEO & Editor In Chief Of Business Insider...... Henry Blodgett

    he's a chart and graph man in this piece...tons of easy data to reveal why in the game of phantasy called the 'tug-o war' between 'labor' and' capital'....capital is clearly winning

    the fed gimmick comes in at the pictures of BOA and Henry Paulson...
    it opens with
    Willie Sutton once explained that the reason he robbed banks was because "that's where the money is ."

  • terrible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUHlWmHMS0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Pardon me while I go dump some sryup in my ears then stick my head in an anthill....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As the Miami Qbs have been making Marshall look bad, so has Brandon Lloyd been making Tebow's TD count look good .....

  • Peter King mocks Lovie


  • did one of you guys post this already?


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This from that article:

    "In characterizing Cutler's performance against the Lions as 'outstanding,' Smith said 'we want Jay to get rid of the ball as quick as he can and things like that.'"

    So profound, that Lovie.

    "Hey, what's a matter Jay, taking a pounding? Try this. Get rid of the ball as quick as you can, and things like that."

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    It'd definitely help if he could finish his drops before he gets hit.

    It's funny how the one and only knock on him was throwing off his back foot and improvising too much and now with this line they expect him to throw off his back foot and improvise.

  • While i agree with your point re cheering for the bears every week we have some basis differences. I am a coach of a high school team and never do I or would I teach the kids that the goal is to simply make the playoffs, this is the minimum expectation for any team. Just wishing for a playoff spot is like hoping to be first loser....unacceptable. We pay good prices for tickets ( I come to town reguarly to see games as a real fan and I expect more than just making the playoffs for the price we pay). 2. While playing and watching football is fun its more fun when you win!!

    The Bears have a variety of problems first of which is Martz then D'Angelo then the O-line. Look 2 -3 years down the road, we will have an old defense that can not longer protect the field and stop powerhouses from going point crazy on us... then where are we as fans. Dark days lie ahead unless something is done and soon. Mismanagement is never acceptable when they keep taking our money. How long can we depend on trick plays to save our butts. It didn't work last week in Detroit (long snap count) and it won't work in the future.

    In the words of Berman C'mon man!!

  • In reply to CanadianBear:

    An old defense 2-3 years down the road? I think that day might have hit us now. Powerhouses are going crazy on us. The past four weeks the Bears have given up over 2,000 yards. Pathetic. This team has been mismanaged for years building by bringing players in from FA instead of building from the draft. Angelo has tried to draft but has proven to be useless at evaluating talent. Without building from the draft we will never be successful for the long haul. We will have to continue to hope for those fluke seasons of making the playoffs. It's a shame what Angelo and the ownership have turned this wonderful franchise into.

  • In reply to JAB1:

    I think those 2-3 years already may be hear, or are closer than that.

    I think its time for change. We seen Angelo and Lovies best. We will not be a dynasty or win superbowl games with them two heading this team.

  • Sorry im referring to canada.

  • In reply to CanadianBear:

    Exactly. And everyone on here cheers for the Bears. Nobody wants us to lose. We discuss what might happen if we continued to lose - or not - but no one has called for us to tank.

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    Well they don`t draft any o linemen worth drafting, I mean in the early rounds and don`t add any receivers from anywhere who are any good, and when they get one they let the guy walk, is this inept management or what? they draft defense every yr and expect the offense to improve from the same guys who are ineffective on offense from the yr b4, STUPIDITY-ANGELO.

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