Rapid Fire Thoughts on a Pivotal Conference Victory

Rapid Fire Thoughts on a Pivotal Conference Victory

The Bears are now a winning football team.  And they're about to get healthy.

  • I don’t want to start negative but I’m pretty sure Chris Harris was the worst defender on the field yesterday.  LoveRod need to seriously consider Brandon Meriweather at SS against the Eagle if Major Wright is still incapable of playing.  Also I’m pretty sure I don’t need to hear Harris’ contract demands this week.
  • Lance Briggs.  Were you saving it?
  • The offensive approach in the fourth quarter was wretched by both the offensive coordinator and the quarterback.  If the Bears only ran the ball on their last five possessions, the game never would have been in question.  And Cutler made three or four throws he simply can’t make when nursing a late lead.  When you are trying to put away a football game, either in the end zone or by moving the chains, how do you rationalize not giving the ball to your best player?
  • As it was, Cutler played his worst game of the 2011 season and the Bears still won.  Good sign.
  • Anybody else notice how often we blitzed in this game?  It seemed like every down.  I could get used to this.
  • I like Chris Conte.  A lot.  Nice draft pick, boys.  Good to have a true free safety on the roster.
  • And I know it’s fun to kill Jerry Angelo but credit the man for stealing Amobi Okoye off the waiver wire.
  • Seems to me that Nick Roach is starting to emerge in this defense.  He’s terrific as a blitzer.
  • The Bears are getting more confident with their offensive line.  I saw less mass protect schemes, less tight ends beside J’Marcus Webb and Chris Spencer was pulling on every fourth play.  As Matt Forte accumulates run yardage week after week, it is unfair not to give this unit credit.
  • And I’d like to ask fans stop telling me our defense is old.  They don’t struggle due to age.  They struggle due to discipline.  When Brian Urlacher is rigid with his assignments, he can play like he’s in his prime.  He did in London.  The only player I might buy the “getting old” logic with is, you guessed it, Chris Harris.
  • If the Bears are relying on Roy Williams to catch the ball, they should stop.  He gets open but it’s the catching bit.
  • I am very interested to see how the Bears receiving corps will evolve with the inclusion of Earl Bennett into the rotation.  The quick toss over the middle has seemingly left the repertoire with his nursing a suffocated chest.

It was a strange game.  The Bears should have put it away three or four times throughout but could not punctuate the sentence.  Still it now puts the Bears in the thick of the wild card playoff race (if season ended today, they’d be in).  The Bears have two more games against wild card competition: at Philly after the bye and home to Detroit.  If they win them both, there’s no reason to believe this team won’t be in the playoffs.

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  • Disagree on the blitzs.. DJ is great at covering and I only saw him once get to the QB. Nick Roach could have had more sacks or pressures if he didn't jump every time a qb pumps.

    I was pretty sure we were going to blow them out till we began to get sloppy.

    Good win but not as convincing as the Vikings.

    Surprised you didn't mention the fact that Ponder hanged in there against the Pack. Hell, if they can do it we should be able to.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I think we beat a good team in the Broncos. And Minny ran GB pretty close. We're doing pretty well.

  • Last year, Martz took advantage of the bye to re-think his approach and revamp the offense. Same needs to happen again. LL is holding down RT, so no need to rush Carmini in, but let's come out of the bye not showing Roy and Johnny at wideouts as the sole downfield attack.

    After I cracked a rib, for another year I would wince and lock up at the mere suggestion of a hit. I need two before I felt okay again. Bennett is about to get tested, and may define his career in the 2nd half of this season. He needs to return to fearless, and that - is a very very tall order.No NFL player is ever injury free, it's how the injury invades the mental game that defines the player.

    We trapped like a mofo yesterday. Spencer and Cookie were pulling out more often than Bill Clinton. Tice has mixed up several blocking schemes, and he saw in Tampa weak DE and OLB against the run, and Spaeth and Davis were kicking ass and taking names sealing the ends in.

    With John Daly, we have a different attack, simple as that. The guy lives to blow a LB up down the field.

    There were six interceptions total in this game. That is ugly.

    Martz threw the ball all the time, with 13 minutes left in the game and a 16 point lead. It's like he wanted to make it close for the Brits, give them some drama. So we go three wide, and IMMEDIATELY Cutler returns to the back foot throw. Jesus. Get him a MARS bar, don't they still have those over there? His decision making became tepid once he was flattened by #56. In case you missed it, Dekota Watson blitzed from the OLB, Forte elected to run to the flat instead of read the blitzer - Jay got pushed down hard and banged his head on the hard Wembley cement turf.

    And from there, his reads sucked. Don't tell me that wasn't related because I won't believe you. Once Jay gets a strong blow to the head, he stops pulling the ball down and threatening to step up in the pocket or maybe take off. Instead he starts backpedaling and back foot gunning.

    I believe that this is known, which is why you see so many opposing teams cheap shot head blows to Jay. That's the dirty little secret book on Cutler - his diabetes or whatever - but shake his head and ring his bell, and you get bad Jay.

    Corey Lynch is no relation to John Lynch, the Bucs just like guys back there with that name. Having said that, Conte was the better FS out there, and Harris sucked. He sucked rushing into the box under control, he sucked out of his breaks, he sucked at tackling. I can't see how a Starsky and Hutch safety tandem wouldn't have been better.

    Briggs blanketed Winslow for that pick, picking him up on his cut 15 yards downfield, spinning his hips, running under the route and grabbing the pass. He was running again, something he was clearly not doing earlier in the season. Why we didn't get this play against Jermichal Findlay I don't know, because clearly Roach can't cover these big ends.

    Old Sauce needs to dial up some blitzes during the bye that do not involve DJ Moore. I liked the Briggs blitzes better. Roach is useless.

    Shout out to the overlooked Tim Jennings, who shut Mike "Not that one" Williams down.

    Lastly, Shanny is a prick to all fantasy owners everywhere, and he lose the game to boot. Shanny, you suck.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GPL, couldn't agree more about that hit to #6 before the 1st half was over, on replay you could see how hard his head whipped back and hit the turf. I wasn't sure if he'd be back for the second half, surely atleast a minor concuss there. With the exception of his 1st drive in the 2nd half which was brilliant(as the brits would say), he showed that he was affected by that impact.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Couldn't agree more on many of your points GP.

    Dare I say, we now have "Depth" at line, with Carimi and even Ed Williams?

    And I think I remarked on the more blitz, but they're only effective when the corner times it perfectly. Other than that, from what I've seen, every other blitzer gets blocked. We don't have a Ware or Woodsen type on our team. However, I like the idea, if not always the execution.

    Harris the Hitman seems to be shooting with blanks. He's a liability. Major would be the first option, then Merriweather. Merriweather just needs to be reprogrammed, Clockwork Orange style, but if Billicheat couldn't do it, I'm not sure we can. Hopefully, riding bench will inspire enlightenment.

    Oh, and hands up if you would have guessed that Conte would be starting, not Paea? Conte got rave reviews, and he looks to be a perfect fit, as scouts assessed. He's llike the Anti-Pimp. Half the time he's being dragged along, but he's there. The TD against, only like 2 safeties might prevent that, and they play for the Ravens and Steelers.

    BTW, NEVER start a Skins RB GP! I had Hightower on my bench and he ended up getting more FF points than Ryan Torrain who was supposed to start. But if it makes you feel any better, Marshawn Lynch decided not to play when the game started!? Isn't that illegal or something, isn't a team obligated to give an injury report BEFORE the game! Luckily, my pick Murray broke Emmit Smith records as a rook. Who's a genius? Not Martz, said I.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    conte shows great tackling form
    he is just getting into his safety carreer
    1st three seasons at cal were at corner
    then they started him at safety his senior year
    he blew the joint up

    he is a quick learner
    has strong legs
    and benched more than any at his position during the combine

    when i read about him after the draft; I got excited because he was just starting to blossom and I remember thinking that he could be a diamond just starting to shine
    never did I expect him to be playing this much
    he may have gotten bested today at times; but I believe he will be the type to figure out what he can do best ; within his own skill set, to win some of these jump balls

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was wondering as cutler was going into his funk;
    if martz could have called some more max protection p-lays in the second half to get shorter yardage; keep the sticks, and clock moving; and keep your diabetic QB, whose body may be a bit shakey by now; on his feet.

    this has to be in the gameplan when you freak the body of a normal player with this type of travel
    what was martz thinking
    forte and the run blocking; gave him a great opportunity to keep it all working simply....

    this is why i do not understand offensive strategy
    because I would never had jay backing up to throw like that
    he was hurried alot in the 2nd half
    he was under way too much pressure
    and he shows that it is a weakness
    why make him go there

    when will we take acceptance of a long slow walk down the field 4 to 5 times a game

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Are we buying the night game thingy? It didn't seem to bother him in Denver - although he had the Beast running routes for him then. We've got a Monday night game after the bye.

  • Lastly, if Oestmann can figure out how to set up an embedded chat room for the game, Blogfather can we have one too? This Gnome code refresh game is teh lamez on the iPad during the game.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-bears-huddle/2011/10/live-chat-bears-bucs-international-series/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My sweet blog
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    I really want to see you
    Really want to be with you
    Really want to see you blog
    But it takes so long, my blog

    George hanging out with the Chicago Now team:

    http://nationalguitarmuseum.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/allthings.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    check out scorceses tribute on HBO
    he did the wise beetle proud

  • The Bucs were doing a better job running out the clock in the 4th quarter than we were.

    Missed field goal by Robbie created some undo anxiety.

    Our running game is only going to get better as the fatigue of a long season sets in...

    Like to take this opportunity to thank the NFL. Thank you for taking what seems to be an eternity (the bye week) and adding another fucking day to it (our next game is a Monday nighter).

    What would have happened had Roy dropped the pass that he bobbled 5 or 6 times? He needs to chase the demons out of his head.

    No big plays over the top, but one big play underneath. Note to Chris Harris, you are not as good as you think you are. Matt Forte is.

    Lance Louis will be in a Pro Bowl within 3 years. I think his punch is exceptionally hard, and I look forward to reading some obscure article that quotes a D-Lineman who hates coming to Chicago to face him because their arms are bruised and in pain every day after.

    Chris Williams is as athletic as he was advertised coming our of Vandy.

  • In reply to Viva:

    Never understood the Chris Harris love on here. People were falling over themselves in swoons of delight when we gave away Jamar for this fool.

    What happens to my boy Lance when Carimi is fit? Carimi wasn't exactly Stellar Jones when he was over there at RT before ....

    Earl coming back will hopefully mean less Knox. Stick Merriweather in for Harris. Bench Carimi or play him at LT or as a substitute TE for blockong.. It's all good.

  • Oh, and 62-7 makes a strong case in the Suck for Luck sweepstakes. The idea that the Colts could go from Manning to Luck is too sickening to contemplate.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1 GP. jesus... of all the luck

  • In reply to gpldan:

    For far too long Irsay has been the "best" GM in football...stands to reason that that title has been misplaced. Anyway, they are tanking this season. There is no doubt in my mind.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Pretty sure that Manning has had that injury for some time. I believe having him sit was a well calculated move by Indy. They of all teams understand that a good QB can make you a contender for a decade. This allows Luck to come in and have Manning tutor him for a year or 2 creating a very good situation for Indy.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    exactly dm

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's their only play. Trade Manning to boot, some suckers out there would pay two first rounders for that plum. Draft Luck and two top linemen and the story begins again ....

    The love for Turtlehead was another boat that completely left me all alone on the shore. Fancy numbers for a long time? Certainly. Calls his own plays? Sweet. Goodies? Perhaps the crappiest SB MVP award ever and a bunch of regular season wins which account for absolutely jack shit.

  • Wild card? Can we not win our division?

    What i saw is the defense gets killed on cutback lanes.

    Cutler looks unmotivated at times.

  • buck up negative little camper!

    Fres, dude... chill mang. We take down philly and give one back to the failing lions and we're right fucking there.

  • It's wild card or nothing. There's no way we're taking the NFC North from Green Bay this season. But hell, they took us on the wild card route last year, let's return the favor.

  • from the last thread:

    dabearsblog I'm not much for Power Rankings but how does @SI_PeterKing leave the Bears out of top 15 when they've beaten his 7th and 8th ranked teams.

    this has been discussed ad nauseum here Jeff. the answer is simple...

    because Peter King is a fat, clueless dbag who, along with his best buddy don banks, are known bears haters. They both suck balls. I don't have a twitter account, so please let him know that all of us on this blog (if I may) feel that way about him.

    ...and

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/10/24/Week7/2.html

    what a joke. The cowboys? Really?!?!?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't the new power rankings come out tomorrow or weds?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    PK is an idiot Jay and Bears won't give him interviews because of his constant slander so he gets all buht hurt and tries to diss em. Then Banks has got to get his back because of the si.com brand. I bet Banks secretly wants to choke PK out sometimes because he gets roped into his crazy @$$ story lines. Who would win in a cage match?

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    hopefully both would succumb of their wounds. Can you get life-threatening wounds from a slap fight?

    Oh, and don't forget banks lives in minny iroot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I bet he does. PK lives at the end of the rainbow. Yeh.. Roger Goodell caught PK back when he was a leprechaun and smacked him stupid... when PK woke up from a deep, smack-induced, coma, Goodell told him he was wearing green because he secretly plays for the packers, but shhh don't tell anybody.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    Oh and PK used an enture section of his weekend football review to highlight Payton's ALLEGED affair and totally ignored the Bears. So before you call me not classy for dicing him in here, realize that he doesn't fight fair either.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    At least I'm talking crap about people that are alive.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB I don't know why you won't believe me but Banks lives in Madison, WI. He used to live in the land of 10,000 douchebags.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    For such an idiot, he gets an awful lot of free advertising on this blog, and he probably hasn't had an article that wasn't posted on here ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    stop trying to get him to recognize us
    he doesn't exist unless you read him
    i don't

  • “Anybody else notice how often we blitzed in this game? It seemed like every down. I could get used to this.”

    AMEN!

    “• I like Chris Conte. A lot. Nice draft pick, boys. Good to have a true free safety on the roster.”

    I could not agree more Jeff. I’m telling you, I can see the shadow of Gary Fencik on that kid…and he knows how to tackle, not just hit and not wrap up.

    O.K. Great game at the beginning but I don’t like the fact that we seemed to let up a bit and as gpldan eluded to “We got Stupid”.

    Just because you’re ahead doesn’t mean the game is over and you can chill. That’s crap. I’m still not impressed with Martz and yes Jeff, Cuty had a bad game…no doubt.

    I’m glad we won and I can’t wait to face Detroit again. Especially if Stafford is hurt, I want some pay back on those bastards. Too bad they get a bye before we have to face them again but if SF and Atlanta can beat them then we can as well.

    Ever since that crap with the hand shack with Harbaugh I’ve disliked Detroit more and more then this shit about Suh talking trash…Look Detroit you sucked for so long and now your good…don’t let it go to your head or your mouths. Because the bid bad bears is gonna rip it off and sow them shut.

    http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/10/23/2509678/matthew-stafford-injury-update-detroit-lions?ref=yahoo

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    I know I've said this a couple times already, but I'll again reinforce the statement here that Conte appears to know how to tackle. And when you think what the word "safety" means, you kinda have to think that tackling is a most essential skill for the position.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    for a FS, it's covering... then tackling dave.

    Dude's got to be able to cover and not get burnt. See the lions and saints games. Safety.... don't get burned deep. Period.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    mb it is his second year at the free safty and he is starting
    he has not peaked
    so we should expect to see improvement

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not even covering. A FS's essential skill is reading, so you know how to be the deepest man on the field on a pass play.

    I haven't seen Conte get beaten deep, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been out of position (and the QB just didn't make the read or throw to the deep man). But that's the thing--you know opposing teams are game-planning to exploit the inexperience/instability at safety on the Bears' defense. The fact that Conte hasn't been suckered or toasted deep tells me that he was a smart CB before he moved to FS.

    I played FS in college until my coach decided that he'd rather have the 2nd-fastest guy on the D at SS, and put a slower guy at FS. Didn't make sense to me at first, because I thought you always wanted speed at FS. Coach sat me down and showed me on film how I used my speed as a crutch--I'd drop deeper than I needed & take my time reading my keys, because I could fly up for run support really quick; I'd over-commit on pass plays because I'd either eat up ground if I guessed wrong, or I'd end up conning the QB into making a throw to the "open" man.

    Then he showed me film of the other guy, who was quicker with his reads and his decisions. He didn't close nearly as fast, so he relied on technique and was disciplined in his reads. He didn't hit nearly as big as I did, but he never failed to make the tackle.

    Coach told me my play style was better suited to being in the box, even though I was physically more of a prototype FS; he said the team wouldn't miss my play at FS, but if there was ever a long pass, it would be me running down the wideout and not the FS.

    Long story short, I think Conte is benefiting from the LBs in front of him. He's sitting back and doing exactly what the FS should do--reading--and that's preventing him from making over-aggressive mistakes (that a guy like Danieal Manning could somewhat compensate for because he was the fastest guy on the defense).

  • bid=big wish we could edit our posts. :)

  • can anyone in the class tell me what's wrong with this sentence?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=311023015

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Haha, Dolphins losing one more? Stunning!

  • In reply to Jokey:

    gold star for jokey!

  • btw, matty has already gone over 1,000 for rushing this season.

    Holy shit!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sorry not rushing... but yfs

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4673046/five-things-we-learned-bears-bucs

  • sounds kinda like a.... leader?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4673034/cutler-wont-blame-travel-for-his-shaky-game

  • You know you're a homer when you continually praise the sub-par to average at best linebacker Nick Roach. It's a good thing to not hear a safety or offensive lineman's name during the game. That usually means they're doing their job. That's not the case for LBs that are supposed to make plays. There is a reason the Bears are clamoring over a gimped up Pisa during the last three weeks.

    I've underestimated Brian Urlacher in the last couple years. I've allowed Briggsy to quickly become my favorite LB, while pushing Brian to the side. But, at 33, or whatever he is, he is playing in beast mode. His ability to drop into coverage, read QBs eyes, and his situational understanding is impeccable. I was expecting a BIG drop off due to age this year, and he has actually looks younger this year on the pitch. He's humbled up and acted his age after several years of getting tittied up. Kudos to you sir.

  • Is Suh taking things a little too far? What do you guys think?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7142954/atlanta-falcons-accuse-detroit-lions-ndamukong-suh-cliff-avril-taunting-hurt-matt-ryan

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Taunting? How gay and PC is football becoming?

    "I say old boy did you see that?"
    "What's that Smithers?"
    "That large man was deliberately taunting that smaller chappie lying on the ground."
    "Taunting, you say?"
    "Taunting him Smithers, without so much as a by-your-leave ..."
    "Well, I say ..."
    "Exactly! And in broad daylight too!"
    "What is the world coming to?"

  • Crown, how can you not praise Nick Roach? He's had back to back terrific games.

    And as for Suh, I think he's the most talented defensive tackle in the sport. But I don't think he's having a good year. Teams are running right over him consistently.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    I don't see what you see.

    He makes a few plays here and there but is not consistent to me.

    He could be good but Crown pointed out what we all know, why would we try out Pisa if we didn't think he could do the job?

    Hell, I think that if anything, made Roach play harder.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Roach has a combined 5 tackles in the last 2 games and 8 in the last 4 games. Besides that, I can remember maybe one good pressure on the QB from him. He is the LB version of double A on the D-line. Usually in the right position, but not dynamic enough to make many plays.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Jeff -

    Did you see Roach covering the TE a lot?

    It's because he can't.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Can Lance Briggs cover one?

    If so, someone tell him to cover Finely better then.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Briggs? He's Mike Singletary - but playing one spot over, with slightly less talent.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Exactly GP, exactly! He's Mike Singletary without the talent.

  • And people clamor for Pisa, for the most part, because they are ignorant. These same people who complain about the age of our defense seem to want us to get older constantly.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    I don't think our defense is old. I think we are just missing assignments and not getting enough pressure with the front four.

    I do not believe blitzing is recommended with DJ Moore or Roach.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Our two defensive ends, two best LBs and our best corner are all old, so the important half of the defense is old, it's fair to say.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    I was hoping for big things from Prom King JT Thomas. But alas, he got hurt and hasn't shown any ability to step up to the Pro game so far.

    I don't know what the hard-on is for Pisa. He was okay. It's like the Tatufu thing, I think DBB likes the Samoans. The Dwayne Johnson effect.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP - Pisa was 7th on the team in tackles and played in 9.5 games. That is why people like him. He emerges from under every pile and lines up the next play to do it again. I was very disappointed that his knee wasn't ready yet. You'll notice though that the Bears said they weren't making a move "at this time". They will pick him up later this year just in time for the last 4 or 5 games and then the playoffs.

  • he's a fucking animal when he's not hurt. 10x the player roach is... when he's healthy... of course.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Watching interviews - Pisa is on meth. To me, that's a good thing.

    How soon we forget how good he was for us... when on the field.

    He just hits and hits and hits.

    Plus, he's related to the Rock.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Don't get the ignorant shot. However, when Pisa was healthy he was way better than Roach. Of course, he's only healthy about half the time. I'm not down on Roach but Pisa was in the right spot and brought the wood.

  • Just one more shout for Clutts. On Forte's first TD run, the guy gets down the field and pile drives the FREE SAFETY, just for good measure.

    How often do you see a FB lay out a free safety? Guy is all hustle.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Having Clutts on the field is huge. He can catch out of the backfield, loves to light dudes up and never stops fighting until the whistle blows. Clutts fucking blew up that safety on Forte's run. I love the fact that it's always him down the field. he did it earlier in the year on one of Hesters receptions that he cut back all the way across the field. Clutts and Kahlil Bell were 45 yards down the field throwing the last 2 blocks that got hester to the 1 instead of tackled at the 20.
    Love it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i remember telking about that
    i think i said that is what the bears saw the last pre- season
    except it was against us
    he never quits
    always looking to help extend the play

    big things have come to us from unexpected souces
    klutz and conte
    who saw this coming
    this is so refreshing

  • Yeah I agree. It looked like the front four wwere slacking big time in the second half. I'm gonna watch it again tonight but it just seemed like the whole team let up in the second half.

  • Peppers provided a lot of pressure on his own till we started stunting him to the inside.

    Was it me or did it look like we kept trying to attack the middle of the their oline? I get the idea since they were down to their 3rd string center but it didn't seem to work to me.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    stunting Peppers to the inside on a 3rd string center caused that final interception. They should do it more often.

  • I thought I might bring this up because me and my math teacher were discussing the Bear's.

    Is Tice that good at building a oline to run the ball?

    Look at what he did in MN and how he taught tightends to block in Jax.

    I am almost all for Tice to be the next cordinator on offense but I don't think he can make Jay listen to him. I am not saying Martz is that great of a genius but he challenges Cutler to do the impossible instead of settling. Now, I do agree that Martz kills us the majority of the time but damn, he can get Cutler to be focused. Just my two cents, not saying I am right but I like the in your face mentality a lot.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Tice will probably be the opposite of Martz as an OC.

    With Martz, we wonder why there is no running game. When there is a running game, we wonder why its not as creative as the passing game. Because he's a passing king, Martz understands how to create big plays, but struggles in the red zone where you just need the FB to get an inch.

    With Tice, I imagine we would get the reverse and wonder what happened to the passing game. When he did pass, we would be wondering why such a creative running coach can't come up with a more sophisticated passing attack. And why Tice's ability to pound the ball to get that extra inch in the red zone, we would be dissapointed at the vanilla approach he puts into throwing the long ball.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Valid point.. too bad we can't have a co-offensive coordinators lmao... That would be a sight

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    I think Tice let Culpepper change the play at the line if needed. We could use some of that.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    I don't know about Tice building good run blockers, but it seems like other teams O-lines make better in-game adjustments better than ours. I don't think our line would have hope with the 3rd center playing. When the Bucs went to theirs, their line sucked for a series then played well. Same with the Packers when their blindside tackle went down last week.

  • Cam >>>>>> tebus

    http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DGzOphXV2hmo&feature=player_embedded&v=GzOphXV2hmo&gl=US

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Timmy's song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loyjm4SOa0

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You're killin me MB. Thou doth protest too much.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    god I love the python. So brilliant!

  • I meant GP, not MB.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Actually, I meant GP and MB.

  • Is it too eth much or too much?

  • Hahahahaha. I knew i'd get that sooner or later trac.

    It's actually more about the over abundance of easy 'material' out there for me to use. The media is the devil trac.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    here you go trac: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/10/23/tim.tebow/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=hp_bn10

    Man, tebus overload already.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, you should consider the following question. Are you not entertained?
    Tebow produced what his fans were hoping for and the hater's hate him even more now. Is this not top echelon entertainment at it's best?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I think that's John Fox's intention.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oh, and of course...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I have no idea what fox is doing trac.

    What I do know is that miami and the lions are two very different teams (although I think they might have a shot if china doll doesn't play). So what happens to all those giddy denver fans when the shit hits the fan next week and they realize they have a fucking TE as their QB?

    I don't know, unless they're in the suck for luck sweepstakes, I just don't get it. Giving up their two best receivers mid-year too? Never been a fox fan personally. It's all simply baffling to me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think Fox is saying,
    "You wanted him, you get him. For the ten games left or whenever Timmy gets killed. Whichever comes first.
    And when our team is still in the shitter, will you people please stop leaving 'Tim Tebow is the son of god' voicemails on my home answering machine? I know Colorado Springs is just down the road but It's really getting old.
    Oh, for the record, either way, I win."

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Target acquired and direct hit.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yeah, I wasn't going down the 'fuck you here you go because you're all a bunch of whiny morons' route.

    But, yeah, I guess there's that

  • Good points Jeff.

    I have several thoughts:

    1. Roy had 4 catches for 56 yards, a huge 3rd down conversion and a pretty ass move off the line to make that corner whiff on his way to a touchdown. That is all we need from Roy. 4 or 5 chain moving catches per game.
    2. Bennett coming back is huge.
    3. Conte stepped up and played decently including a game changing INT that pretty much resulted in 2 points instead of 7.
    4. Harris is brutal and is a liability on one leg. Meriweather needs to be in there next week if Pringles can't go.
    5. Peppers brought heat with one leg.
    6. DJ Moore should only be allowed to blitz from the corners. I saw a Tackle push him to the ground with one hand when he tried to go up the middle.
    7. Clutts needs to be in the game as much as possible. Good things happen when Clutts is in the game.
    8. Forte is performing at a high level. 20+ touches per game is a must. 3-5 catches is also important.
    9. no more 5 or 7 step drops in an empty backfield from under center. It is a recipe for a backfooted, desperate, pressured throw.
    10. Hester should only run vertical type routes. Enough of the behind the line of scrimmage bullshit.
    11. D line was average but got the job done when needed.
    12. Can we run shotgun once in a while for gods sake?
    13. I called a Robbie Gould miss. It was not a backbreaker but certainly made the ending more tense.

    Feels good going into the bye week at 4-3 with time to heal up for the playoff push. I don't care if we win ugly as long as we win. The only thing that matters is getting into the playoffs. Anything can happen in the playoffs.

    Bear Down

  • Yeah, and I'm not going to forgive you for it either.

  • Dear Roy,

    Do not take this opportunity with a few days off to go find bad bitches with VIP. Do not smoke a bowl, eat a pizza, club in any way, or break up with your girlfriend, stab a Denny's patron, punch a cop, tweet stupid shit or any of those things.

    Go find a hill like Walter used to do, and run up and down it. Get one of those machines that fire footballs using tires, and pay some kid to fire them while you run crossing routes and work on your hands. Again and again. Just like Jerry Rice used to do.

    You reported to camp out of shape, now finally you are playing and getting open and looking okay, but your hands are still a big problem. Practice makes perfect. Don't forget, you are on a 1-year contract. Let's finish this thing up strong.

    Signed,
    Bear fandom

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll sign that. However, this is just my own little personal theory, it's not his hands, but his mind. Alligator arms are an extension (or lack extension, see how I did that?) of FEAR.

    Can you train fearlessness? There's a Rice, Boldin, Waddle kamikaze mentality that some ppl just don't have. Aren't Roy and Bennett doing the same exact thing? Why such radically different results?

    I'll tell you why. FEAR. It makes Roy inconsistent. It preserves his health, which is why he's even getting reps while Earl is nursing cracked ribs, but I'm not sure that it can "trained out" with enough reps. I hope so, still wanna see more of him, but I'm not keeping my hopes very moderate.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    * I AM keeping my hopes very moderate...

    This site is acting wacky again...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Fear affects them all except probably Earl. All of our receivers hear footsteps - for me that's what seperates good receivers from bad ones. I don't care if you run a semi-wanked route just as long as you become deaf when the ball is inbound and you don't take your eyes off the back of the ball until it's in your possession, Tom Waddle style.

  • Maybe this will put an end to the Tebow debate. Or maybe make it worse.

    The Broncos won yesterday. His stats were 13/27 with 160 yards and 2 TD's. Not horrible numbers, but did the Broncos win in spite of him or because of him? If you're going to say wins are all that matters, then what's with all the Grossman haters in '06? His stats that year were 13 wins 3 losses 262/480 for 3200 yards and 23 TD's. Everybody said we won in spite of Grossman. So what's the difference? They were both successful Gators. One was doubted all the way to the SB and if you defended him you were ridiculed. One has barely beat an shitty Miami team with less than average stats, but he's loved because he just wins, right?

    Anybody else see the irony? So what's the difference. Tebow is worse than Grossman and thus, I'm sorry A7, he sucks despite his few wins. Don't even mention college ball or heismans to me, or I'll mention Gino Torretti.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    ahhh gino torretti... meeeeemories!

    Hey doc, I left you a couple nuggets on the last string. (hee hee)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thankfully, the thread is too big for me to bother.

    I'll just save myself the time and rebut with my usual response:

    You clipped yet?

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I think we have to give Tebow to the end of the year. I pretty much consider this his rookie year. Yeah, he's been in the league, but only half way and with different coordinators.

    I give all rooks to the end of the year, too many x-factors. A new system, speed, routine, sometimes college injuries, radical life/economic/locale changes...

    Quite simply, I don't think we have enough of a sample size for Tebow. If he wins, we should give him props cuz that's hard to do for any qb.

    However, he shouldn't be worshiped. Trent Dilfer just won, and no one on this blog is going to wear any Dilfer T-shirts (I hope).

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    If Tebow wins over half his games he starts this year, what then? He's only had 4 NFL starts I think. How bout he gets a fair shake to at least see what he can do. Vince Young was a baller when he got his chance in Tennessee but his attitude was horrible. I guess from a talent standpoint, I'd put Tebow in the same category as Young. He's just one of those players that you know is going to do some amazing things on the field but you never really know what you're gonna get. I'm interested by the intrigue factor alone and would at least see what the guy can morph into.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    maybe rex didn't have a legion of prayer warriors behind his image?

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    For about 55 minutes the Broncos were 15-0 down to maybe the worst team in football (after the Colts?). But losers don't come back, it has to be said.

  • Since everyone is riding the "Clutts Bus"...let me take the wheel a sec.

    He's great, and think of how great Forte is now and with Clutts in there blocking for him on some runs is what I'd like to see...I just don't see it with Martz. That kind of Payton/Suhey smash mouth run game is not what Martz wants. I'm not saying Clutts is a Suhey...but he COULD be if given the chance. I just don't see Martz "dumming" down his offensive plans to let Clutts really shine and supporting Forte as much as some of us would like.

  • 7. Clutts needs to be in the game as much as possible. Good things happen when Clutts is in the game.

    Yup, I sang an Ode for Clutts last week, so I won't repeat. Good things happen when Clutts is on the field cuz it FORCES Martz to limit the BS calls. However, how long will this last? When will the Martz lightbulb click and we see a Clutts wildcard reverse screen?

    9. no more 5 or 7 step drops in an empty backfield from under center. It is a recipe for a backfooted, desperate, pressured throw.

    The empty backfield mystifies me like our corners playing off - it just seems to defy all common sense, logic, and all that is harmonious in the universe.

    THE POINT of running well is to slow the pass rushers and make play action viable. However, when Martz goes to empty, that pretty much negates that. All those tough rushing yards for nothing. Almost everything bad that happens seems to come from this empty backfield BS. Cutler banging his head on the turf, strip sacks, etc.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Good damn point. Hard to use play-action when there is no runner to fake to.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    amen on #9...#9....#9....#9...#9....#9....#9....#9....#9.....#9.....#9....#9...

  • ok, let's all be honest with one another. Martz fucking blows donkies. Period.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Pygmy Donkeys?:
    http://www.donkeys.net/BroodJennets/MerryGoRoundsClementine/Clementine.jpg

    just at the right height for him? and has a twinkle in his eye or OC's....... but I don't think he blows them..wink..wink......say no more.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Maybe this is the Pygmy Donkey for Martzy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMaFjEH1B0g

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think the only thing Martz puts in his mouth is Little Debbie snack cakes. A lot.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    mmmmmm... little debbies

  • jesus, we have like 10 on this list: http://www.complex.com/sports/2011/10/the-50-worst-quarterbacks-in-nfl-history

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yup. I swear Avellini was one of the worst quarterbacks I ever saw. Purple Drank takes the prize though.

  • hey, how did flatbread do?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Let's just say that Blogfather's comment on Okeye is well placed.

    Flatbread has punch off the line, like Lance Louis the guys arms are little tree trunks, and he gets good "snap". He's quick laterally. But he's still pushed out of his gap by experienced lineman, because he's just too small. I know he's on the scale at 290, but he's short and while Adams is a blob in there, Flatbread gets moved around alot.

    The upside is what commentators were calling the "twist", although I've never heard this term. The Peppers or Izzy collapsing down and the 3-tech guy needs to move out and engage the tackle and cover outside contain, Paea is pretty good at this because his foot speed is so good. But he can't bull rush many interior lineman in this league, and he can be handled in many cases without drawing the 2nd OL. And, in the Lovie Deuce, so much depends on the NT getting doubled.

    He's like Tommie on a cold day. His insane quickness can get you plays like the safety, but as the play wears on - he's the wrong guy to shut the run down and, like Tommie, ends up a situational 3rd down pass rusher.

    I don't know if Toe will heal up over the bye (or even what his injury is), but - when healthy - he's a fairly big upgrade over Flatbread on 1st and 2nd down.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    2:10 gives the best example of everything I said. Better to watch it than hear it:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8236b5b1/GameDay-Bears-vs-Buccaneers-highlights

    Brisco TD. Flatbread 1-on-1 with the LG. Gets stood up, nothing. Nada.

    3:04

    So quick, he draws the double out of sheer confusion, allows Pep to stunt down and get a hand in Freeman's face, being the primary cause of the early release and Moore's pic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Toe is due back after the bye.

  • Who started the Nick Reed at OLB bandwagon? I want on.

    Reed is poorly used in the 4-3, but has serious footspeed and quickness. I saw him run down a play from behind, and he was fast. Fast enough to take Roach's job at Sam's Club. And he'd be a force on the blitz. The guy is a gamer, with a big motor. I don't know if he could cover Findlay down the seam, but neither can Roach so at least you would gain somebody who could get to the QB from another direction.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I like what I've seen from Reed, but I'm not sure he'd be ready to just step in at LB. He has not played any yet, has he?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    did I see him in coverage several times on sunday?
    I wasn't sure, but it looked like it

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Damn, Pep is wide out in coverage half the time it seems ....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Running a play down from behind != coverage skills

    It's rare--exceedingly rare--for a guy to go from a line (3-point) to a back (2-point) position. And it would take a lot of training and a lot of reps for him to un-learn D-line technique (fire forward, engage at snap, read your blocker) and to learn SAM technique (find TE, lateral step, read gap). In other words, D-line is about firing forward while OLB is about reading and stepping laterally.

    And even though you're talking about a SAM playing primarily in non-passing downs (1st and 2nd with normal to-go distance, and 3rd/4th and very short to-go), he's still gotta be able to cover and run with a TE and/or back out of the backfield.

    If I was an OC and saw a "converted" DE playing OLB in a 4-3, I'd be throwing at him every down.

  • Martz is a buck tooth jackass. Just when we are rolling and feeling good and we can actually enjoy watching our offense click, the dreaded short flanker pass to Hester behind the line of scrimmage once again emerges, like a fu#ckin dingleberry. Then, when all we need to do is kill the clock, he does the exact opposite of what a rationale OC would do. If his results were better and we had an offense ranked in the top 1/3 I could deal with these mind numbing calls, but he has no such cred. When they showed Martz throwing down pencils in booth after Cutty threw the back-peddle pick I hoped just maybe that friggin idiot realized how boneheaded his play calling is at crucial times. But, I know better.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    thenks for brining up the pencil throwing
    actually that was the favorite part of the game for me

    i'm warped
    but, if anybody can find me a clip of that I would be eternally gratefull
    i was laughing spit when that pencil bounced off the desk
    then he folded his arms across his chest
    and his face pruned up
    that my freinds was priceless

    today i thought the only other thing that would have been better
    if the pencil whacked him in the face off the bounce
    and they showed replay in slow mo

    i hope he was satisfied with the results of his miscalculation
    he brought it on himself

    i am tired of repeating this.
    but if he wants a team that can whack the pack
    he has to keep this team succeslfull play to play
    for 4 quarters
    build on the confidence week to week and the players will prove to you when they are ready
    you don't get to choose that date mr. Martz

  • Not trying to defend Martz but on the drive when we FINALLY got 3 points, that swing pass to Matt was a thing of beauty. It was the perfect call and Jay threw a perfect ball. He caught the Bucs in a blitz and at first I thought Matt might take it to the house.

  • If the Bears can continue to run the ball this well, it should pay big dividends later in the year. I agree with all the Clutz comments, and Spaeth has been blocking well also.
    Anyone else watching the Ravens-Jags game? Just brutal offensive play with lots of turnovers. It's about as good as the game of the week, Tebow vs. the Dolphins. There were 12 games yesterday, and the 3 and 4 letter networks spent over half their time today talking about Tebow and Suh. It's a fucking soap opera.

  • I don't want to overstate the importance of this point, but according to the NFL app on my phone (and the math appears correct), if the playoffs were to happen today, the Bears would be the 6th seed.

    The Lions are the 5 seed. There are three 4-3 teams competing for the 6... Chicago, Tampa and Atlanta. We hold the tie-break over Tampa and Atlanta, so we're in. And that is why this past week was such an important win.

    There's a lot that can happen over the season... including Detroit faltering a bit more and competing with Chicago for a 6th seed. Being in the middle of the pack as we are, these games are crucial.

    Coming off the bye-week we play the Eagles. They're last in the NFC East, but they could easily come back as nobody in that division is looking elite. That's another potential tie-break game.

    After the Eagles, we play Detroit in Chicago. If Chicago beats Philly that game will be for 2nd place in the division. Even if Detroit beats Denver next week, we can win and be in a tie for 2nd (I think with the better conference record). Again, a potential tie-break game for sure.

    If we win both games, we're at 6-2, second in our division and owning tie-breaks against most of the likely competition for wild card spots. That puts us in great position looking forward to the playoffs even without a win against Green Bay in the regular season.

    I hope this is a very productive Bye Week.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    The next division tie-breaker after head-to-head is division record. So the Lions would still have the edge there in 3 weeks if the Bears win. However DET has played only 2 division games so far, and none against the Packers. So the division record picture may change by the end of the season.

    However you slice it, it's still important to beat GB as well as DET (and even MIN) if the Bears want to overtake DET in the division. Going 4-2 in the division is a big differences vs 3-3.

  • I just wanted to share what one newspaper picked up on from the game in London over the weekend:

    1) Paragraph or two on the Glazers
    2) Paragraph or two on the star of the show was the squirrel on the field
    3) Only play noted was Forte's run
    4) Fans we're dressed as L.A Raiders

    I'll give them half marks on the L.A Raiders.

  • Hey I Bleed... where did you play?

  • How about some Waddle highlights?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3ZRxRv7FI

    Try to imagine Roy making that catch at 2:15

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's Harbaugh to Waddle BTW.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    my man crush. thanks for the vid link above btw gp.

  • Trac, A7... don't start a bidding war now, ok boys?

    http://www.itsalwayssunnyindetroit.com/2011/10/get-in-tebows-pants-on-ebay.html

    (I know, but there's just so much material out there right now, it's hard not to bite)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    just tooooooo muuuuuuch material: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHKs7HLUoc

  • It's like 5-hour energy... but for playahs.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt4OVWavQiA

    The video is actually pretty fucking funny. One thing I did notice... tyson's been putting down a whole lot of . Damn, dude's got a gut.

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