DaBearsBlog Weekend Show: Sunday Off Addition!

DaBearsBlog Weekend Show: Sunday Off Addition!

On this week's episode:

Same old shit with a new song dedicated to the Detroit Lions and featuring the voice of Matt Millen.

Lines This Week:

Packers -5.5 FALCONS / Chargers -4 BRONCOS / PATRIOTS -9 Jets / GIANTS -9.5 Seahawks / JAGS -2.5 Bengals / Saints -6 PANTHERS / TEXANS -6 Raiders / Eagles -3 BILLS / VIKINGS -2 Cardinals / 49ERS -3 Bucs / STEELERS -3 Titans / COLTS -1.5 Chiefs / LIONS -6 Bears

Pick three games against the spread and you can't duplicate the selections of myself or my brothers.


The Brothers:  Jon (8-3-1), Jeff (7-5), Chris (7-5)

The Commenter Perfect Weeks: FQD1911 (2), Big Daddy (1), DYLbears23 (1), New Bear in Town (1), BossBear90 (1), Michael L (1), greenbayman (1)

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  • I have coerced the worst first, now you may curse your nurse before your bratwurst bursts.

  • Slim pickin's this week.

  • Have you heard?

    "I'm Third"

    Said the Seuss-like math-nerd.

    "What's the good word, my herd?"

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    greetings doc
    there is an article i would like you to enjoy
    i responded in thyen last thread, to a comment irish made to canada
    bout 30% into the thread
    irish was getting off , and I left a response to him about an article i used to educate fellow shop stewards about the state of affairs at the time in 2003
    The article is The Making of Corporate Judiciary...michael scherer wrote it
    the webpage is listed on that post, but if you google the title it comes up at mother jones
    mb needs to feed on this also
    and dave's opinion is desired

    how are the casting lessons coming?

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    thanks hunti. will check it out.

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    You missed a golden opportunity, Huntin'. You could have replied,

    "Legs, spread the word"

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    only a groin-a-cologist would use legs and sptread in the same sentence

    if this were phantasy phootball i woulda' said :
    "Every bear deficiency, is now cured!"

  • In reply to huntinbare:


  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    very nice doc.

    Looks like the gnomes fixed reply as well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    U know, I never had "reply" problems this week. Is it cuz I use Firefox? It does hog up some bytes, but I love the add-ons/extensions, including one which lets me know who is "tracking" me on which sites. I don't turn it on all the time since it slows or completely blocks certain sites.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Huh? You mean who's laying cookies on you ... or something with more balls?

  • here is some stuff:

    i seee this blog likes refer to the detroit QB as "china doll"
    is this appropriate

    Why do people say, "Grow some balls"?
    Balls are weak and sensitive!
    If you really wanna get tough, grow a vagina!
    Those things take a pounding.....bette white

  • In reply to huntinbare:


  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I just heard that one yesterday. Classic Betty White.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    my #2 son sent it to me
    it seemed appropriate....seeing as we are mired at the end of the pack on defense....and seem to be labeled "soft" this year

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I have no problem with anyone referring to Stafford as "Balls" from now on.

  • Anyone heard a yay or nay on Pisa & Kristic? I haven't found anything yet...

  • In reply to Bender McLugh:

    I heard the Pisa's knee checked out ok but that they passed on him.

  • Chargers

  • I see picking the Jets as the trap pick this week. I also don't feel that comfortable with the Packers but I see that one as the lesser of two evils. I recommend staying away from the Bears as well. I am surprised you didn't take the points with Da Bears Jeff. I didn't think you'd be able to pass on them.

  • I think Briggs might actually be our leader tackler. As for our offense. Forte is clearly our best player. Martz should focus his offense more on forte plays, rather than cutler seven step drops. But as we know forte had a great week last week. Simply cause of that Martz will go back to pass heavy. Yup.

  • correct you are fresno
    depending on who's sheet you are scoring from:

    melton has been in the stats every other week
    so this is his week to put a few numbers
    last week merriweather-7
    wright -6
    is this alot for the safeties?

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Yes, but it's only because the first two levels of D failed a lot on Sunday.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I was shocked I must say that the D-line does not have that many tackles. Melton did not show up at all on two games stat sheets

    now this is the first year in about 30 years I have chased statistics
    {you guys are having way to much of an effect on me}

    but, is this normal for your D-line to register so few tackles?
    is it because we have played great passing teams?
    the secondary is doing alot of the tackling; so maybe this is the case

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I think you pegged it - GB and N'awlins in particular spread the field in their passing attack and then slipped some big runs in the gaps in our d-line. You have to be a good passing team to run those draws or you'll lit up behind the line of scrimmage.

  • I think what the Rev or whomever was refering to with Briggs is that he isn't the "playmaker" this year. Tackles are fine, but we NEED big hits, FF, fumble recoveries, ints, sacks, tip balls, all that good stuff, which is why he was voted to the PB as the only 4-3OLB for the past few years.

    This year Briggs just doesn't seem like Briggs (and thxs to his own big mouth, the contract looms in mind); I would gladly sacrifice 10 tackles for 2 turnovers from him...

    Here's to hoping he finds himself against the Lambs...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    100 fucking % 85

  • Bengals

    Was that picked by any of the brothers?

  • Fres, Martz will try Forte - once - and he'll get dropped behind the line of scrimmage so Megamind will deduce that the Lions are geared up to stop the run, time for 7 step drops! A whole bunch of em.

    And let's throw in some of that cool unbalanced line shit because that really confuses the other team - so much so that their completely unblocked left end will NOT go straight to our Crash Test Dummy because he will be confused... perplexed... he will have doubt in his mind...I promise you it will work this time!

    Why does our esteemed OC have to go brain dead every season? Let's hope he brings his Mensa game on Monday. If we get the Martz of the Saints and Packers and Giants last year we're dead (actually Crash Test is dead).

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:


  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Agree. This year, if the first few Bear runs go for about 2 yds, AND we are behind, Martz turns into Dr.Hyde and pulls out the "Greatest Show on Crud" playbook, then it snow-balls from there.

    I think Martz is sitting in the box this year so Tice won't start choking him on the sideline when that shit happens.

    The key this week, as in all weeks, is (in this order):

    1) Execution. They know what we're going to do. We just gotta do it. Dline's gotta put pressure. LBs must keep gap discipline and tackle. DBs must know their assignments, not take bad angles, tkl.

    When the ball hits a recs hands, he's gotta make the catch. The Oline has to make some room for Forte, and make Cutler comfortable for once. Cutler's gotta be accurate and not get happy feet.

    2) Coaching. No blown time-outs. No "can't get the play in". No wild-cat, reverses, or statue-of-liberty plays. If we fall behind, don't panic and give up on the run. Toub, do what you do.

    We win this, and if hopefully GB loses to a very motivated Falcons team, we're only 1 game behind in the North.

    GB 4-1
    DET 4-1
    CHI 3-2
    MIn who cares?

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Forte is already our entire offense, and real defenses can shut that down kein probleme. Running 200+ against the 31st run stopping defense is a lot different to running against the 11th (which is also getting Fairley back this week). Their OL and DL are solid. Our OL isn't, and 3/4 of our DL is old. It won't be any shame losing to the Lions, they may be the NFC representative in the superbowl this year.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Correction : They're tenth in PASSING defense, but only 20th in Run D, but Fairley and our banged up O-line might change that trend.

  • I can get into the extended details a bit later. But everyone who reads this blog should please sign this petition: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions#!/petition/call-investigation-allegations-prosecutorial-judicial-misconduct-case-sholom-rubashkin/tj7Fx42T

    This is one of maybe 2 or 3 causes I would spam like this, but Shalom Rubashkin has helped too many personal friends of mine for me not to post the petition. Suffice to say, he got seriously hosed by the Feds.

    And on a side not: the website is an interesting idea by the White House. I'm curious to see what will come of some these petitions in terms of a response.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:


    Read. Discuss. Share. Educate your friends. Stop this insanity. Save your country.

    And Go Bears.

  • Do we win a bird cage if we win the pickem game? I WANT THAT TWEED BIRD CAGE.


    If Steve Jobs were still around, maybe he could help Jew Gnome fix this damn site to what it used to be. Fuck this gravatar shit. I want to easily post a pic of Denny fishing or mini Denny in the new coors light commercial or matt suey or Billy Dee from Brian's Song.

    I met Glen Big Dog Robinson this morning in my parking lot at work. He was souped up in all spurs gear. I was sthinking, you haven't played in like 20 years, why don't you throw on a suede suit or a cosby sweater or something.

    The Lions cannot stop the run. Forte needs close to thirty touches. Expect another big game from the best bargain and most under valued player in the league.

  • In reply to Crown:

    LOL. Cosby sweater.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    That's sick doc. Love me some Cosby. RUDDDYYYYYYYYYYY! THEOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    Totally unrelated, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA

  • In reply to Crown:

    On a Cosby note: http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/a7be2a2fc1/the-funniest-bill-cosby-gifs

  • In reply to Crown:

    old wierd harold @
    fat albert

  • In reply to Crown:

    Lisa Boner. Mmmmmmm. Just watched me some Angel Heart a few weeks back. Lisa Boner. Yes.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I think Doc is trying to teach we the math-unannointed that
    sin b / tan b = cos b

    And to think I used to know some of this shit. That's what 35 years and 50,000 beers will do to you.

    Okay, so it's an estimate. That's 50,000/(35*365) ~= 3.91 beers per day. Probably underestimated... almost certainly in fact.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Geebus Dave... wow. That's... impressive?

  • In reply to Crown:

    When I moved my stuff to Canada my wife went through my clothes and made me throw out about 25 sweaters. I like to refer to it as the entire Huxtable collection. Damn they were fine.

  • http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/07/gotta-watch-waiting-is-the-hardest-part/?&hpt=hp_c2

  • You guys took the good ones. Here's mine, 3 B's:


  • Just looking at the MNF schedule for the rest of the year...ESPN took it in the pooper. Two games in Jacksonville? Other than the Bears-Philly and Bears-Lions, the only remaining game that doesn't look terrible (yet) is week 16 (Atlanta-Saints), and even that may turn into a yawner if the Saints have clinched.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yikes - MNF is terbs this year. Although, in addition to the games you mentioned, Giants/Saints and Steelers/Niners might also be good. I sure hope the Bears/Philly game means something come November.

  • Bears

  • A team I believe in: Texans

    A team I don't believe in: Lions

    A team I am not sure about: Falcons

  • Bills

    Headed to Reno soon so wish me good luck fellas!

  • http://lockerz.com/s/144174881

  • Eagles

  • Is Maury Buford Rex Grossman's secret father?


  • In reply to Crown:

    Sexy Maury?

  • DItka and Obama shook hands today. Or at least stood on the White House lawn at the same time.

    In case you don't know the story by now, here it is:


    If only Jack Ryan hadn't enjoyed watching his Half-Borg wife get stuffed by other guys, how different it could have all been...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I love how Ditka pretends to be all right wing libertarian yet is one of the biggest backers of the players union and their "socialist" redistribution of wealth to retired players.

  • Yeah, it really pisses me off that Ditka wants to get the old guys out of poverty and help them get some decent health care. Esp on the backs of a bunch of ungrateful millionaires. What an asshole!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Considering that if you were discussing employees that didn't wear jerseys or helmets, Ditka'd have a 180 perspective on it, I think it is a legitimate point.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Football was his life Brownie. Can't blame the guy for having a heart for his fellows. I defer to Docs answer on this one.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I don't blame him per se; I find it to be an ironic stance on the issue, given what an "ultra-ultra-ultra-conservative" would typically say about forcing any other business or union to pay lifetime health insurance.
    Granted, it's Ditka, so I don't think you're going to get a coherent political philosophy out of the guy anyway, but it was the topic at hand.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Charity is charity. Some are called to serve in different capacities than others Brownie. Charity has to come from the heart because once you mandate it, it is no longer charity. The Holy Spirit is supposed to guide us in the matter, not government.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I think you're missing my point. This isn't about Ditka (or the NFLPA for that matter) donating money to charity cases. This is about Ditka wanting to force current union members to retroactively fund pension and health care benefits for retirees.
    I happen to think that's the morally right thing to do.
    But there is no way on this green earth that he would, even as the son of a union leader from PA, advocate for any other union member in another industry to receive lifetime health benefits. When unions of every stripe have been under considerable pressure lately, including the lovely refrain of "jackbooted thugs", for trying to protect their collective bargaining rights or even maintain their right to exist at all, it is a little odd to hear a self-proclaimed conservative rallying to force union members to increase their dues and increase the scope of the union's commitments towards their members.
    THAT is the irony.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    That approach may have worked in the pre-Reformation years, when everyone was either in the church or worked for the Church.
    But I think it would be hard to reconcile an expectation that Christian charity would care for our poor with a society that is so ill-read of the bible and celebrates the aggrandizement of conspicuous wealth so blatantly.
    I don't think I'm the one that has an overly optimistic view of human nature, unfortunately, and I don't mean that as an assault on your character, BD.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I think Joel Osteen could probaby solve the famine in somalia on his own.

    Dude talks to god AND somehow has millions because of it. Winning!

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Wow. Amen x 314,159,256,358,979

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Ditka is a common Man, he's not Jesus.

    He sympathizes with himself and those like him, and everyone, too bad.

    Simple as that.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ditka has always been a business man
    back when tha butcher wanted extra money
    he would work evenings in restaurants and Ditka was a customer for a while
    next thing you know he was opening up one
    he was the topic of conversation because of the business he was in for my dad...he would critique
    me, I talked about the football aspect of Ditka

    i look at it this way.....
    when you give something to better another
    you are giving it to yourself....ultimately
    the thing we see now is an unwillingness to put other people in front of their own interests

    i was thinking today about the wheel of life
    and how we seem to be on a very dark side of that wheel
    the wheel is massive, and we are all getting crushed; as it rolls along; and drives us beneath it's weight

    then i thought of what it would be like if i just went inside the wheel
    get of the outside and get within
    it seemed a safer....toward the within

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Guys - you picked up on the WRONG POINT.

    The REAL point was that Seven-of-Nine from Star Trek - her crazy hubby made her go to sex clubs and gangbang. I got your Borg probe right here honey. The borg collective. Or something like that, I dunno.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I would totally Borg her. And Tepal from Enterprise


  • In reply to 4ever85:

    my god man... talk about the difference a haircut can make... oh yeah, and cloths.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Thank for that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    In hindsight, you are correct.

    I'm so ashamed...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Whoa. Back up. Stop the car. What?! Jeri Whatsherface? 7 of 9, adjunct to tertiary matrix whatever ? Links. Stories. Pictures. Time machine.

  • Yeah but they contributed to the game Sac.

  • Sac,

    A true thinker votes the issue, not along party lines.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I think Sac was being sarcastic towards consistency on the matter Doc. I do have a problem rolling out the red carpet for just anyone who made an NFL squad though. In the end, life is about choices. I think that most of us miss the opportunities in life that come our way because we're not ready for them when they present themselves. Those that are fortunate enough to be ready for success normally make it. I don't have a problem being charitable to those who need help, rather, I get turned off to those who demand it.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Yeah. I see the irony more clearly now. I guess my point is, in any PARTICULAR issue, a man has a right to have an opinion that may be contrary to their track record. Saying the NFL players need lifetime benefits is a request unique to a business that makes billions with employees who play a violent, violent game. Asking that of the teachers union, for example, would be ludicrous.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Almost as insane as asking members of Congress... oh, um, never mind.

  • Good news!

    Mcclure says Hitman is healed enough that he will be playing Monday night!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That is good news indeed. Who takes a seat? I'm guessing Major P.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Of that, I have no doubt.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Who sucks more? Major dingis or Merry dingis?

  • major disappointment... at least swole can actually hit someone without wiffing.

  • Falcons, Giants, BiQueens

  • Johnson has caught seven of his eight touchdown passes on the right side of the field this season. Just sayin'.


    Lovie.. Just sayin.. you better hope Harris can really play

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Excellent stat, Artoo. Now ... back to Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blalock ....

  • Dammit, I hate posting a bunch of responses to a thread, only to realize a new thread is out. Oh well.

    If anyone wants to read more political bullshit, I guess go check the last thread...

  • Boys, my annual chili cookoff is tomorrow. I was hoping for 60 degrees and sunny and it will be 82 and sunny. Not exactly chili weather but good weather none the less.

    i don't know how my Cheddar Bacon Whiskey Habanero Corn Muffins will go over on an 82 degree day though.....

    The beer selection went from October Fest style to light mexican brews.

    What'cha ya know about whiskey corn muffins hater?

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    I've been meaning to ask you Gucci, who is your avatar of? This crappy new format won't let you zoom in on the avatars.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I believe that is VIP Swole his own self...our very own Brandon Meriweather.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    his own self!

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    VIP himself mang...

    "you ho's must be trippin, you hoes must be crazy, i'm hear to pop bottles not get an ol lady"

    I want VIP to have a big game on Monday. Light up the night.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    With Harris back there, I'm hoping he takes Megatron and folds him in half on a jumpball. That is what ultimately takes away those big guys going up 44" in the air - a rib-cracking hit in the solar plexus.


  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm looking for a Hitman/Swooooole top and bottom helicopter hit. Fucking rip that dude into two pieces. Do it on the first play of the game please.

    Have Major disappointment on the side line to trip people with his penis on kick-off returns.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    Damn, Waffle. Them there Cheddar bacon Whiskey Habanero Corn Muffins sound TAAAAAAAAAAAASTY.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Yeah, I kinda liked the sound of those myself.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    down here if it ever gets under 90 degrees it's chili season

    play this dylan song for them as you serve this tasty treat
    "romance in durango"

    the boys were toolin' around town one afternoon and....
    there's this gorgeous lady standin' on the corner with a violin case
    they pulled over and asked,'"can you play that thing"
    next thing you know she's in the back seat headed for the show and gets introduced to the crowd that night at the start of this song....her name.....Scarlet Rivera

    the opening line....Hot chili peppers in the blistering sun"

    dylan wrote a song much later in his carreer that contained one of my favorite dylan lines.....
    jump into the wagon dear and throw your panties overboard."
    not sure if that's exactly how scarlet acted when she met the boys in the band

    but, one can wonder and dream
    bear down

  • suck it MB, it's fucking northern cali over in chi-town! I should be surfing lake michigan.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    sucketh on THIS sir: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/USCA0982

    oooooor, this: http://www.surfline.com/surf-report/swamis-southern-california-hdcam_4789/

    Good luck with the chili.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • By the way, did anyone else see the kid from Oregon dislocate his elbow last night versus California?
    I thought he had snapped his humerus in half.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:


  • http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/310391-forte-bears-relationship-souring?eref=sihp&sct=hp_bf2_a4

    Now what Jerry? Really?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah, who coulda seen that coming?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    fucking a mang. The news about Jerry angelo just keeps getting better don it?

    He's saving all that cap space to spend on a 7th string QB from east, north, south Appalachian state school of horticulture, and a white safety from CSU next year. Sweet!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I seriously think JA is waiting for 2 things.

    1) For the bye.

    2) For Forte to get injured to get more "leverage" and say, "See."

    Worst case scenario, next year will be Forte's last franchised year as a Bear. Best case scenario, this year will be JAs last year with the Bears.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    shameful...just shameful
    life is surreal now to be sure
    a book about one of our fallen angels
    comes out and tries to paint with a socially poisened pen
    then the on person in the fold who could speak volumes about the subject
    goes out and reaches up to that angel with 200 yds;
    sits down in that rarified air; and discusses the disrespect
    shown for their committment to excellence

    but, this is an act being played out on a national scene, in front of all types of person ; who feel their committment to this nations' society is is being overlooked, by monied interests.

    for my mind money is just a concept to divide the masses
    we are just finding that out collectively

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    if the feds don't shut him down
    the kid from the horticulture school could increase team revenues

  • Um Jeff, you missed me in your winning Commentors section. I had the following last Sunday:
    Saints -7
    Pats -4
    RAVENS -3.5

  • Off topic but ... I just saw a documentary on Toots Hibbert. It was on the Sundance Channel. If you have a chance to see it, you'd be crazy not to. There are some clips of him performing back in the '70's when I saw him live. Just incredible. You can't help but smile watching him perform.

    Sac and MBP, I get your point and agree with it in theory. However, to me it's one of the worst things about politics today. Liberals have to fit in this box, Conservatives in that box. Don't go outside that box or you're a phony or a fake. Even worse a flip-flopper. All that is total bullshit. You are who you are and should stand up for what you believe in. Even if it doesn't fit into a neat little box.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Conversely, I think it's really poor form to shape your beliefs to fit what benefits you or your personal concerns at the moment. It's one thing to grow your beliefs and develop as a human being; it is quite another to change your stance on something as a matter of convenience.
    I'm not saying anyone should maintain a foolish consistency of course. Quite the contrary; but like you said, stand up for what you believe in - ALL the time, not just when it benefits you or your friends.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It's why I'm the only Democrat at my company, and must only vent my crazy Liberal thoughts with a capital L views on Da Blog, as nobody at my job wants anything to do with anything that doesn't lower taxes on themselves.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you have to either be a walstreet type, or a VC GP.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sounds like my friend who got married for "tax purposes".

    Very romantic.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    I was going to do that. And then I realised I could get tax breaks just with the children's birth certs. Pepe le Peu is a skunk with good reason.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    He didn't have children yet - too expensive lol

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Yes they are. Oh yes they are.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Love me some Toots, Canada, and I agree with you completely. The stupid part is not the flip flopping, if you want to call it that, it's entrenching yourself in a party or philosophy.

    And Browne, read my post above about why this situation is somewhat unique to the NFL.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Bigger upside, bigger downside - than most jobs anyway.
    Coal mining has it beat all to hell in terms of risk and lack of alternatives.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Good point, most def.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    george harrison say's
    there are no edges
    there are no sides

  • From official Bears site, just short of going full retard:

    The Bears will pay attention to Suh, but they aren’t going to double-team him on every play.

    “That would be hard to do,” said coach Lovie Smith. “This isn’t the first time we’ve played him. He’s a heck of a football player. But you can’t start double-teaming every great player you play. There are some times when we’re going to have to block him one-on-one and get the job done.”

    “If you double him every play, then I don’t have enough guys,” said offensive line coach Mike Tice. “Guys have got to earn their money sometimes. We’re going to try to give guys help, but we also have to help with 93 [Kyle Vanden Bosch], we’ve got to give help to [Cliff] Avril. There are only so many guys we can help at the same time.

    "At a certain point, guys have got to earn their checks.”

    Indeed. Sometimes, you have to earn your paycheck, Lovie. Mike. Old Sauce. All of you.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    maybe it's subterfuge

  • Obama joked about not having to run against Ditka, today, saying
    "It's a good thing, too. I would have been terrible on ESPN."

    He also said of Duerson that hopefully his donation of his brain will lead to breakthroughs that can help future players. I thought it was classy to mention Duerson.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, good job by one of the handlers.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    HAHAHAHAHA... daaaaaave.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I liked that too. Very sharp wit today Dave.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    the man said some wonderful things about our beloved bears
    does any of that translate to fans of other teams?

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Didn't he say they had to watch out for McMahon around the White house? I liked that. Just the thought of a fire extinguisher going off in the Roosevelt room makes me smile.

  • BradBiggs about 5 hours ago #Bears LB Lance Briggs on #Lions game: "This game puts us right in the mix or will set us back 3 games."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I couldn't reply to your post above due to some ""ungnome" circumstance MB. Let me just say, I think you and I see Olsteen for who is, along with every other televangelist that offers the Gospel for a price.

  • By the way, why an Addition rather than Edition?

  • Reminder to TheFifth and Doc to submit picks for the league...

  • i'm bummin' wooten is damaged again
    at the start of camp
    so much promise
    now he is feeling the sophmore curse

    c'mon son
    I'm lightin some inscence for you too

  • I still don't get the wooten thing? I get his put farve out and for that I hope they doubled his salary last year... but besides having the longest, pez-looking neck I've ever seen... wtf has he done and why does everyone want him back so much?? Which game(s) did I miss last year?

    Don't know about you guys, but you can keep woot... I fucking want the BJ back (in more ways than one)

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to huntinbare:

    and youthful exuberance

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, It's called hope. We need a spark. The Bears rank 19th in sacks. If we don't find a way to get to the QB our boys will never be able to beat the Packers or Saint's.

  • Jets

  • My Picks:

    Green Bay.
    San Diego.
    NY Giants.

  • Packers

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    No love for the Bungles here Irish. I almost went with them but I just couldn't do it.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    #1 defense in the NFL, surprisingly, but up against Blaine Gabbert and a one dimensional offense. And 11/10 no spread. GB, SD, CIN and NO for me this week, no spread.

  • The Tribune has poll out on the outcome of the game Monday night. Lions win 54% to Bears win 45%. This kinda goes to what GP said about Bears fans not being happy in Chicago. It says a lot to me when the Trib readers have the Lions winning. Also, Jeff said he always likes the Bears but he passed on the Points. Hmmmm.

  • Al Davis-"Dead at 82".


  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Just win baby. R.I.P.

    And from NFL.COM :

    New Orleans is throwing the ball 68 percent of the time in the first half of games, second most in the NFL (Detroit is tops at 71 percent).

    Works for some (teams with receivers).

  • RIP Al. you funky dude.

    Man he looked terrible the last couple years. I'm shocked he lasted this long.... not to sound callous. I hope I go before I end up like that. I think 80 is my Max max.

    Nice that he saw his team turn around before he went. Maybe that's what he's been waiting for?

  • reply not working again wtf!?!?

    just brutal.

    Jeff seriously, can you ask these assholes to fix the basic functionality of a website that makes it a fucking blog. This is just fucking ridiculous.

  • BAAAAAAAHAHAHahahahhaa...

    see trac, this is what cracks me up... the hypocrisy knows no bounds. I won’t get into the specifics of what I think, but let’s just say… tea pot, please meet kettle.


    ("it appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds")

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not delivering a sermon but anybody not interested in a post concerning Religion, this may offend you.

    You have to understand what the Bible uses to define Christianity as MB. Christianity is a cult by "secular" standards but when you "study" the Bible in context, it is clear what is debatable, acceptable or unacceptable doctrine. Mormonism's doctrine falls under the unacceptable category using the Bible's own definitions. All religious organization's that classify themselves as Christian's which Mormonism clearly does, leave themselves open to reproof within the Christian community just as any other "Christian" organization does. You cannot know what "hypocrisy" is concerning Christianity unless you know what their governing text's say. Within the Christian Community, only the most accurate original documents that make up the Bible are accepted in determining good doctrine. Joseph Smith added to and took away from the original text's so in the eyes of the Christian community, yes they are a non-christian cult. I'm aware that in the eyes of the secular community, all religions are lumped into one category, so I'll be very surprised if this post is not met with jeers.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:


    Just kidding, Trac.

    You're right about one thing. To most, all religions are the same.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    If you meant to most secular people, then maybe that's true (in the West anyway). But if you meant to most people in the world, then I really doubt it.

    Obviously the adherents of religions are comprised by a wide variety in the strength of their convictions, but I'd hazard to say even a nominal follower still views his religion as not the same as all others. Given that both Christianity and Islam easily surpass secularism in number of followers, with Hinduism right behind, I think it would be greatly overstating how common the "all religions are the same" belief is. Even if you meant just the US, only about 1/3 of our population says "no" to the question of whether religion plays an important role in their daily lives... and even less self-identify as agnostic or atheist.

    I don't mean to criticize you Doc. I have noticed though that secular folks often have a tendency to assume they are far more prevalent than they are. Right or wrong, most of the world is religious...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I actually did mean most secular people. And even that was tongue in cheek. I think a few basic tenets of every religion are the same, but much is obviously very different. Trac and I have had our misunderstandings and disagreements about religion. I have the utmost respect for anybody who stands steadfast in their belief system, no matter what that belief system is. I used to be among them, so I know. The only things I hold steadfast to are, to let others do as they choose, so long as they are not hurting anybody else (except maybe feelings...), living a life that I personally can be proud of, and the Chigago Bears. So no disrespect intended. Especially to Trac. Dog knows I don't want to go down THAT road again.

    I also care for Reese's Peanut Butter Cups a great deal.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    And most of the world has a mean IQ of 88, 12 points below stupid. Just sayin'. Now the story of Joseph Smith is best told by South Park, but is it any less crazy than the following?

    A Jewish carpenter's son, born to a virgin, died for our sins because a woman didn't obey a talking snake. He came back as a zombie three days later and turned into a spaceship.

    Love they neighbour as they self. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Thou shalt not kill. Forgiveness is a powerful thing. All provide a solid foundation for life and such wisdom is welcome, but the rest of that ancient mythology .... nah.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    An IQ of 100 is not stupid. An IQ between about 90-110 is considered average, not below average or above average. Most IQ test scoring is scaled to create a standard deviation of 15, so 88 is well within a standard deviation. Really using IQ scores to draw any conclusions of how many stupid people there are is a bad idea, because the scoring is specifically designed to put a certain percentage of people into predetermined numerical buckets.

    Anyway I wasn't defending religiosity and certainly not any specific religions, just clarifying that it is in fact widespread. But to your point, I don't think believing the mythology of a religion makes someone an idiot. I know it's hard for secular people not to feel enlightened over their religious compadres though, so I guess it doesn't matter. Reading your next post, it sounds like you don't fall into that category though.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Believe it or not Doc, I'm learning to not be so defensive when discussing such matters here. Christianity is my faith and my discipline, I have never claimed to be perfect. I recognize the more I understand about Christianity, the more imperfect I am. Not that I ever thought I was perfect but I do believe I have a compass that points to true North.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Keep following it BD, none of us here has the answer.

    However, as with all questions of weight, there is a paradox at the heart of it. It is equally as stupid, ignorant and arrogant to say that God absolutely exists, as it is to say that he does not.

    I was raised Roman Catholic, and Jesus used to be my superhero. Here's what always bothered me - what is it that's 'hiding behind' faith ?

    Faith is the fear of applied logic, which is fundamental to sensory perception and what it is to be human.

    Faith is the abandonment of questioning - the basic drive of the human mind. It is the antithesis, counterpoint and complete bypass of logical thought. It is scared by, and nullified by rational reasoning. Thought is acidic to Faith - thought is the anti-matter in the universe of Faith. Thought holds the flame of truth to the fancy Chinese lanterns of Faith - seeming so perfect and beautiful on the outside, yet really just paper-thin and fragile to the touch. Nothing solid is offered by Faith, only the name of a man. Jesus of Nazareth. Once cast under the light of logic and reason ... the supernatural events and sophistry that the Bible offers up for Christians to believe in ... simply blow away like fine dust in the wind. Improbably. Impossibly.

    It is far less destructive to dismiss as primitive beliefs the result of cultural Chinese whispers down through the ages, than to blindly adopt both improbable and scientifically impossible events as the sole basis of one's core belief and value systems. Faith is a conscious decision, unconsciously instigated, to completely and unequivocally, leave one's senses.

    I might have faith in an engine, for example. I could trust a motorbike to get me from point A to point B. That faith would be based on : my knowledge of that bike's long-term history ; its recent behaviour ; the current condition of the bike ; knowing both the fuel and oil levels ; knowing the distance and condition of the road to be traveled. I would also have varying degrees of faith in that engine, based on the variables presented to me in the equation of my faith. For example, if the air in my tires is low, and there's not much petrol in my tank, then I seriously doubt I'll complete a long journey without first rectifying those conditions. Now for me to have *complete* faith in that bike before embarking on a long journey through wilderness - without having an idea of all of the variables to some degree - would be reckless and most incorrect of me. To merely say "I have faith in my bike" and that is enough .... is to make a conscious/unconscious decision that requires a complete and unequivocal leave of rational thought and one's senses.

    I have no problem with personal religion and personal beliefs, but when they divide a planet and cause men to kill their brothers, then it serves no purpose. But that's just an opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs.

    Et cetera et cetera, ad infinitum .....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    And ...uh......go Bears!

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Mans wicked heart and religiosity put Jesus on the cross, not faith.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Assigning the acts of a handful of people to be the responsibility of all people past and future is bigotry of the worst form.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Irish, do you know who Martin Luther was? I mean, do you know why the Roman Catholic church murdered him?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    You know, that is one way to think of faith, sure.

    Another way I find more useful is to think of faith as a (rational) coping mechanism for accepting the unknown, including the unknowable. Humans have a limited capacity to store and acquire knowledge. Additionally we are not built biologically to be rational, logical machines -- we have emotional and physical needs as well. As such, to survive requires compartmentalizing at least some or all external factors outside our control, our ability to predict, and our understanding. Over time, that amount may go down but it never will go away completely.

    Faith bridges that gap. Self-delusion (or at least self-simplification) is unfortunately a basic requirement of the human mind. In that sense, religion is a sociological attempt to share aligned delusions which reflect common held values -- not a terrible thing. Where it goes wrong is that (for the practice and propagation of religion) each is also an institution, and as such is prone to all the foibles of power -- hence a less than stellar track record. Don't forget also, however, that staunchly secular institutions have perpetrated mass evils as well.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    No jeers - but I would suggest evluating the historical scholarship on the version of the bible that you adhere to. Entire gospels have been added and deleted in the common era.
    I suppose you could relate Mormonism to Islam; "cult" isn't the word I'd use necessarily.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yes Brownie, I'm well aware of most of the historical evidence, text's and the various doctrinal methodologies. I won't get into that here, but I had all the same questions you have raised and I'm satisfied with the results of my research.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    that was good reading boys
    monday is only one year away

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I'm hoping for a death-bed scenario BD. Take the sacrament of Last Rites, accept Jesus Christ as my savior, and that way all bases are covered. Of course that leaves the door open for being run over by a bus and eternal damnation :o)

  • Packers -5.5 FALCONS
    Chargers -4 BRONCOS
    Saints -6 PANTHERS

  • Let me make that a little clearer:
    Packers -5.5
    Chargers -4
    Saints -6

  • BTW, while I can post a fresh comment, as MB30SD mentioned above, I'm unable to reply to a previous comment. At least at this point in time...

  • Bears


    Bob: If I may shift gears for a moment gentleman, coach Ditka vs. The Hurricane, who would win?

    Todd, Pat, Carl: Ditka, Ditka!!

    Bob: Hold on, Hold on, Hold on. The name of the Hurricane is Hurricane Ditka.

    (Todd begins to pound chest)…..Is everything ok?

    Todd: No problem, just having a heart attack. (Pounds Chest)……..Almost over! Done. Done.

    Bob: Very good. Very nice recovery, now how many heart attacks is that for you Todd?

    Todd: That make’s a baker’s dozen for me.

    Carl: Yeah, I’ve only had six.

    Bob: Well that’s something to shoot for Carl.

  • In reply to Shady:

    that's funny

  • 2 things I'm wondering about, and have been for a while...love to hear from our fearless blogfather on this one, and absolutely from all the gurus on the 1st topic. I have no hope at all left for the 2nd.....

    1) When are we going to have a serious discussion about Jay Cutler?

    Comments have been *ahem* 'all over the board' on this one the past couple of years, but most seem to wind up back at Lovie, Martz, the O-line, and of course, the ever-fun Pinata Jerry Angelo.

    Jay originally was - according to his own comments anyway - enamored of the Mad Martz approach to offense. He has that great big cannon arm, so he (by his own admission) couldn't wait to launch.

    Meanwhile, back in the money vault, everyone has been trying to find the light switch for the bulb over JA's head in terms of personnel - WR's and O-linemen seem to have come from odd corners of the draft F/A box store.

    I for one am beginning to hear the talking heads' point on our QB - namely, that he should be better than he is regardless, even if that doesn't translate into undefeated seasons and SB jewelry.

    I was glad we got someone of his calibur, but I was also not overly optimistic that he was the QB everyone assumed he was/is. I love Jay, I really do - and he's an upgrade over QB's past, but let me say it again - from my recliner, I need to see more of that Super-Jay shit before I become a cult member.

    Seriously - let's hear it - change my mind, or just lobotomize me, I don't care which - but where the hell is the QB who shoulders it and makes us better? He seems to be, well, inconsistent in some ways. And yeah, I know he's running for his life half the time at least, but somewhere in there, there's a QB who's better than what I've seen.

    I think.

    2) This home for the blog SUCKS. When Jeff talked about the transition to this inexplicably amteurish dump of an interactive blog, he said things would get better as everyone worked on the "bugs" and the lack of features, etc.

    THIS SUCKS. PERIOD. Chicago Now went bargain basement is all I can figure, and it just SUCKS, every which way.

    This place actually makes me miss the original site. Is there ANY HOPE AT ALL for this to get overhauled? ANY?

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    i have this sense with cutler that he needs to be in charge
    he is working someone else's system; and maybe he might not be the right person to be the ideal martz qb

    cutler also needs consistent play from his entire offense, to better himself
    i think that consistency, is going to be the way that makes his skills become productively apparent
    i can't figure out if he has gotten gunshy
    i do not see the games;
    but, i hope they can learn to get him some success in the pocket
    he seems to need a couple great game experiences to regain some confidence
    he came into camp so assured
    some of seems to have left him
    i am sure he wanted better results from the 2 losses

    and this lion's team has enough talent to help him believe
    if things go well for him this monday

  • Don’t take this personally trac…

    I understand where you're coming from as a born again. My best friend and his family are Bas, and I love them to death – his mom and me always have fun little discussions about what’s going to happen to me when I die. But I've also met a lot of BAs that are complete aholes and that most assuredly do NOT practice what they preach. It’s just my experience, but I find that a lot of Bas dismiss you or look down upon you just because you’re not BA too.

    Anyway, I guess my point is that... of course you feel that way coming from the inside. You define your religion and yourself based on those exact teachings, and I have absolutely zero issue with that. It's when you start suggesting that your definitions should apply and be used by everyone else that I start calling bullshit. Without dragging us full-bore into a discussion about the basics of all religions and trying to force them on others, I’ll just say that this is where and when the argument totally and completely breaks down…. “my stories from my book of traditions written by my people are better and are the only truth, despite the fact that your book says the same thing about yours”.

    Look, I have another very good friend who’s family is Mormon. He went on his mission while at BYU and has since left the herd… but he still feels that it’s a religion that makes people better, makes them more moralistic beings. And to be honest, while I personally think the Mormon religion itself is kind of silly in some of its almost fairytale-like mystic belief structures… I know this for a fact… I would say 99% of the Mormons that I’ve met (and I’ve met a lot) have literally ALL been amazingly happy, friendly, helpful people. Much more so than many BAs that I’ve met.

    Now, there is zero scientific about that comparison, it’s just been my personal experience. What I am trying to get at is… what is better…

    People who are incredibly happy, nice, helpful, loving… but follow a goofy religion…

    …or people who a whole lot of the time come off as better than thou aholes who are more than happy to tell you that you’re going to what they call hell simply because you don’t believe in their brand of silly little book of fairytales?

    I’ll take the former every time. Religion that divides is bad… that’s why I want to be the dali lama when I grow up.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No offense taken what so ever. I totally get your take. It's not uncommon and is actually one I used to share.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the most important thing about your desire for god; ................ you put an earnest effort into it

    chase the object of your desire with passionate love
    forget about udjgement and opinion
    get direct experience of that relationship
    merge with it
    when there is no other
    revelation happens

  • want to know what Jimmy thought before the move over to this POS SD....


    (yeah yeah, I know... but we just watched it with my daughter last night...)

  • http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/08/romney-jabs-controversial-speaker-at-values-voter-summit/?hpt=hp_t1

    "One of the speakers who will follow me today, has crossed that line," Romney said. "Poisonous language does not advance our cause. It has never softened a single heart nor changed a single mind. The blessings of faith carry the responsibility of civil and respectful debate. The task before us is to focus on the conservative beliefs and the values that unite us – let no agenda narrow our vision or drive us apart."

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • MB -

    God, this place genuinely needs to be dozed over, and rebuilt...god, I loved the vid though - hilarious! Your daughter enjoyed it, I assumed? Like Dad/Like Daughter?

    Hit me on the 1st point (Cutler) when you can. Seriously, I'd really, really like to hear if I'm just wrong, or not seeing something. I look forward to your fair, balanced, and unafraid comments. BTW, FOX News stole that one from me, not the other way around.......

    Cutler - is he really a great QB, but just in the wrong system? How much of a factor is his Diabetes? Are Angelo/Martz really this level of stupid? Really? Or is it something else?

    I think it was Steve Young I heard say the first time that Jay should be shouldering his team more, regardless of the circumstances, that he should be better.

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    I'll bite.

    I certainly don't think Jay is a GREAT QB....Yet. Talent-wise and potential-wise, he's a top 10 QB. I DO think diabetes plays a bigger role than we know. But plain and simple, in the two plus years he's been here, he's the best Modern QB this franchise has ever had. I'd say McMahon was better, but his fragility made his greatness more of a could-a-been sort of greatness. This league has shown us that every great QB had a great system with perfect guys for the system, great wide outs, great running backs, great lines or some combination thereof. There are FEW exceptions and those QB's are considered to be among the GREATEST. So right now? NO. Jay is only a GOOD QB. A QB most teams would go to battle with in a second. And until he can be great DESPITE his lack of weapons, he'll only be good. Unless, of course, we ever get to see him with weapons. If only...

    But until then, his lack of weapons have to be acknowledged as a factor. And the shitty play calling. And the shitty coaching. And the diabetes. I know this. I'll ride with Jay until he proves he's less than good. Some will say he is. I'd say they are wrong, obviously. He gets more unfairly criticized than any QB I've ever seen. I've seen Manning throw 4 INT's. I've seen Brady thow 4 INT's. When they do it, the commentators say, "Brady'll come out with a chip on his shoulder". It's viewed as an anomaly. I've heard Manning throw his line under the bus. I've never seen Jay do that. I'm rambling now. Jay is not great, but he's NOT what's wrong with the Chicago Bears, and thus, I don't feel this conversation even needs to be had.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    i don't even think he needs greatness at the recievers core;Doc
    I think he will help a reciever get better if the play around him gets cosistent

    he needs to have the ability to know and understand just how much time he has to let the play develope; when to abandon the pocket; when to change it up; and see, and know what the D set is; in realation to what has been called

    if he keeps getting rushed this type of understanding may never come
    this is gettin' negative

    things have been so sporadic
    and the plays that blow up ; get blown up quickly
    that he has no feel for what will work and what won't

    I hate to sah it but this martz system takes a long time to get fluent
    like years... unless you get gifted at each position

    but, don't worry i will burn an extra stick of sandalwood tonight for him
    and harris too

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I didn't say he needed greatness at WR, maybe a just a couple fellas who could, you know, run routes and catch the ball?

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    amen to the hands

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I've never believed that line about QBs making receivers better HB. Can't make them run their routes, and it's not as if he's the most accurate passer around either. The only thing that can help Cutler is a tall, big-bodied receiver or two. He needs the jump-ball guys. Look what they do for Houston and Detroit.If you're going to use small receiver, they'd better be Steve Smith.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    if these linemaen start to get more time for cutler to feel normal
    these recievers will start to look good
    i am not sure who to credit that too; but
    consistency breeds confidence
    then maybe there is a higher level that one of these recievers reaches for and establishes himself at that level

    maybe you couldn't give cutler credit; but i do think these players are connected to each others success

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    won't the only way to tell if it's martz's system that deletes his abilities; for martz to be let go
    and jay gets a new system to labor under

    sometimes martz hasn't been so successful

    i think McMahon should be hired
    and the two of them move in together

    the "OOOOOOlllldddddld Timers" will remember the famous coach-- quarterback; reality roommate season

    For $35 Johnny; name that couple?

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I was always on for Jimmy Mac as a coach.

  • And on the 4th day, the Gnomes took over the blog. And it was bad, so they rebuilt it in their leader's image. And it sucked.

    Also, on the religion thing - riding Metra 2x day, I gauge Beardom by % of people wearing swag. On a good year, it's 1 in 20 or. Mind you, it's a Bears hat or scarf or pin or tie, or maybe a Bear backpack. Whatever. I give extra points if smoking hotties sport the swag.

    This year, it's hard to get an exact percentage, but it may be as low as 1 in 200. Somewhere over 100 it's impossible, because you lose count of how many people you've seen before you see swag.

    I cannot, in my lifetime, remember this city being so indifferent towards its football team. The economy, combined with the NFL lockout, combined with the McCaskeys and the Trib and Sun-Times serious anti-Bear tone, the whole 85 Bears thing, It all just adds up to me, if I sit by a guy reading a Bears story in the paper - I say something like "we'll take the Lions, we gotta." and most of what I get back is "pttthhh." or "who cares".

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that is a reflection of inner passion being distinguished by the harsh realities of this physical grind

    the bears need to step up now for the fans and give tham a diversion worth rootin for
    it only tales the wagon to begin moving in the right direction
    for the band to jump on

    imagine if we were 4-0
    we got accentuate the positive
    for our forelorn brothers

  • SD!

    Yes my man, it is terrible. Left to our own HTML devices just to link urls. We all saw how that ended up... nice work 85!

    Ok, so cutty...

    So, my gut/heart keeps telling me that, that asshole Steve Young is right. If you're elite, you just make shit happen no matter what. You rise above and overcome. You put the entire offense on your shoulders and roll baby.

    ...but then my brain kicks in (yes, a bit slowly but nonetheless) and I think about the absolute garbage Jerry has given us for a line and the lack of receivers. And I know they've gotten better and I give them and tice credit for that, but in reality they are still bottom 3rd or 4th of the league. Whatever the measure, they are still sheite. Cutty's been the most sacked, most hit, most hurried, and most harangued QB in the league for three years running.

    Then I think about our receiving corps and same deal. I think Knox is a really strong outside deep threat, but that’s it… anything short and/or in the middle and he’s an INT just waiting to happen. Hester made some really incredible acrobatic long-ball catches down the sideline last year for big big plays, but he’s so inconsistent and really just needs to come in once in a while. Roy Williams is... dog shit. and he's done. I have no clue about hurd. Davis can’t catch all that well, and no idea about spaeth. Our only two real receivers are the same guy… slower possession slot guys who catch everything… well, sanzenbanger catches most balls thrown to him, but he’s a rook… and undrafted FA rook.

    So when it comes down to it…. I honestly think even if he was a rodgers/brady/manning/brees Frankenstein monster… with the lack of talent and weapons we have, I think he’d also be inconsistent. The last two games with the happy feet and the lack of accuracy is a product of those factors.

    So in summary, personally… I think we need to see him with even a decent middle-of-the-road line and at least one real WR besides earl (someone very similar to a Boldin/marshall type). I didn't even get into the fact that he's been i two different OC schemes since he got here, and the one we have now simply can't control himself and call a game plan that has already PROVEN to work with this team. I have NO clue how that shit happens a second year in a row, but what the fuck do I know.

    That’s my $.02 SD. Take it for what it's worth sir ($.02?)

  • GP, if the gnomes would let me reply to you, I would have said, "that sucks".

    As for Jeff... you sure as hell watch a shieteload of college ball for someone who hates college ball? Blog research only?

    And Martha's Vineyard huh... swanky swanky.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    hopefully he is scouting future draft picks
    i like that center from wisc.
    anybody find any other good lookin short snappers

  • Not getting into a religious debate. If it helps you, great. This site is a joke. Not the content or the posters, just everything else. Oh well.

    On Cutty, I thought he would be better by now but Martz's O shortened a bunch of QB careers. And those QB's had better OL's and WR's. Does Cutler have happy feet? Fuck Yeah! I go back to a quote by Mike Tyson to explain that, "Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face".

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The philosophies of Mike Tyson. I watch his quote highlights every now and then to remind myself how boring and robotic sports stars are today.

    Keenan Ivory Wayans did a MIke Tyson skit on TV and Tyson confronted Damon when he saw him in public. This is what happened. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSVuSIVng78

  • that's always a good one Canada... he was/is quite the philosopher

  • Champions (-5.5)
    Buccaneers (+3)
    Steel City (-3)

  • I think I've established my feelings on Cutler enough so I won't diatribe very much. I just have the one question for you guys who doubt our Quarterback:

    Which other QB in the NFL would do AS GOOD AS or A BETTER job in this system with what he has to work with? The only person I can think of is Michael Vick because he is used to running for his life(Very often not succeeding) all over the field.

    Any other top 10 QBs...DEAD. Not one other exception.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Not the point. Nobody - and I mean nobody - has ever said on this blog that we should go in another direction. The wisdom or otherwise of the trade has been questioned though, by myself and perhaps others. But in answer to the question ... Vick .... Rodgers .... Newton ... Brady ... Turtlehead ...Rivers ...

    Cutler's strengths:

    Keeps his mouth shut.
    Mobility. Currently unused.

    Cutler's weaknesses :

    Decision making.
    Mental clock.
    Throwing mechanics
    Lack of vision.
    Indeterminate effects of Diabetes type II.

    Which list is longer ? What are we going to do about it? Nothing. So it's a no-conversation thing.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Try type I diabetes, Irish. Much worse.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I stand corrected Doc.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    now irish
    rule #1 from the great korzybski
    one can always say something more about what's already been said

    so i would like to move" mechanics" that he did improve on
    over the off season into the vicinity of strength
    and add the intangible "heart" into the strenghts

    a couple of the weaknesses
    decision making
    lack of vision
    are cureable with good blocking

    i keep wondering what jay would do with the '85 bears line
    maybe those 2 i just mentione would be affected

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    But even when he has good blocking the decisions and vision don't seem to be there HB. I mean he gets six seconds sometimes ... always looking downfield, and Forte is sitting there like a prize plum as open as can be. HEart? Yet to see that displayed to be honest. I'm trying to recall comebacks and can only recall the Minny game when we had Shabba in there. No wait, we lead for most of that game if not all. Nope, can't remember any comebacks, just team-wide throwing the towel in e.g. Saints game. Both the Lions and GB are proven this year in the comeback stakes.

  • Chargers, Bucs, and Texans

  • Thaaaaaat's going to leave a mark: http://www.eitb.com/en/photo/detail/752218/752218/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice to see the bull get some revenge before getting slaughtered in front of hundreds of people. They really need to do away with that "sport".

  • In reply to Shady:


  • Falcons

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    catchin any fish yet ?

  • The 13x NFL Champion Green Bay Packers

    The Lions are too much of an obvious gimme.......

  • MB -

    Okay. I think that hit the mark, MB, you turned me with the gut/heart vs. brain conflict. That rang true, and it fit.

    Doc -

    Yer right - he's NOT what's wrong with the Bears. I just find it incredulous that Martz/Lovie + Angelo by extension seem to have decided that Jay Cutler is an expendable lab rat. Seriously, I think it got so stupefying to me, I just tried to find ways to not believe it. He might BE great, but we may have just brought him here to kill him before he could prove it.

    Canada & A7X -

    Jaworski said in an interview linked in a prev. thread that Jay can't stop hearing the footsteps after all those friggin' hits, and I KNOW that has to be a a helluva factor in his play.

    Huntin -

    Yeah man - the old days...you think Bill Walsh would have treated Cutler this way?

    Thanks all - I just needed a perspective adjustment.

  • so I have to be honest SD.

    I just finished watching "Greatest Rivalries" on the new Velocity channel.

    They did Bears/Packers. Started with the last game in '09 and finished with the game this year. Granted it what has become the usual GB felatio job that has become so popular lately, so not only was it pretty disgusting to watch, but they only basically played bears low-lights.

    But that all said... I have to be 100% honest with you man... cutty personally lost us 3 of those games, the oline and then hanie lost us the other one. It was pretty ugly and very angering to watch.

    That first AND second game in 2010 we basically beat the shit out of them and then Jay just fucking handed them both games. 3 INTs in the first, I think 2 in the second.


    Elite… no, even very good… QBs do NOT do that shit man. Motherfucker.

  • From Cutlers very own mouth regarding Lance Louis playing right tackle:

    “He does present some stuff outside that’s a little different for us,” Cutler said. “It really helps with seven-step drops and some of our long play-action counts with his athleticism and his ability to match up against defensive ends.”

    But didn't somebody say Omelette will be playing right tackle again this week? WTF? All we ever DO is seven step drops. Chripes!

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    And yet, this on Omelette:

    "Omiyale allowed a sack and a pressure in the second quarter. The sack brought Omiyale's total to 181/2 since he joined the team in 2009. Only three players in the NFL have allowed more over that time span, according to Stats, Inc., — the Falcons' Sam Baker at 191/2, the Cardinals' Levi Brown at 19 and the Chiefs' Brandon Albert at 18.5.

    Omiyale also has committed 16 false starts over the time period, tied for most in the NFL with the Ravens' Michael Oher."

    For more head shaking ideas including using yet another DB on offense, read more

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Jebus. I jokingly thought to myself when he returned his INT that they would probably make Moore a WR. If that happens, then I'm jumping on the Andrew Luck Derby Horse. Trade Cutler for two firsts and a WR and start this this show off from scratch.

  • well, it's more like rich owners and politics, but anyway...

  • I think this is an open invite from now on... who says football and politics don't mix: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-cnbc-nfl_politics_lean_right_100711

  • For some reason the weekend show keeps freezing for me, can't get through the first 2 min. Hopefully none of the bros picked the combo of:


    cuz that's how I roll. Have a good one all. Good luck to our boys Monday noc. Hopefully we come out on top and healthy. Anyone know when earl comes back?

  • In reply to ben in norcal:

    not soon enough

  • O.K.
    just watched mr.rogers pitchin' some state farm policies
    what is the origin of that italian tailer, measure the waist move?
    what does this mean?

    I saw it in a bears game last year; but I didn't get it
    what am I missing?

    I wonder if he knows that the "honorable" state farm, ran like the liar with their pants on fire;
    from the homeowners in fla.
    just dumped us all when the going got a bit less profitable

    shamefull, just shameful, to market your move; when the company you choose is filled with empty promises
    the respect factor just bottomed out

    that ain't no good neighbor policy

    it's time for jay, "i won't market myself" cutler; to step up and slay the lions

  • Huntin, he's supposed to be showing off the championship belt (as in pro wrestling). Lame as shit but if you're as good as he is, it becomes popular. Gotta agree about the insurance companies. Happy to take your money, not so happy to part with any of it. I don't fault Rodgers for cashing in but I do admire Cutler for passing on it.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    it is time to take some of the shine off that belt
    maybe he can use his state farm health insurance policy
    soon; to repair a bruised ego

  • MB, I get the Fudgies love from the media. It's a very unique set up (small town pro franchise, pubicly owned) and they are really good. When the Bears were Da Bears, they got a ton of media love. One thing to keep in mind when the media starts whacking off over ya. The bandwagon fills up with a crazy amount of total douchebags. Back in the '80's I'd run into those jack offs and they would loudly tell you about their love of Da Bears and basically embarrass the hell out of you (by assoiciation). I'm sure hardcore Fudgie fans will find out in the next couple of years.

    The shit I don't get is the media dog pile on Cutler. I watched the Carolina game on the NFLN this week. Cutler's INT was referred to as terrible and horrible by the announcers (one of the audio feeds was a Carolina radio broadcast). It wasn't a great pass but it did go off the TE's hands. Newton's INT was into triple coverage and nothing was mentioned other than he shouldn't have thrown into triple coverage. REALLY?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I'll give Newton a pass- he's a rookie. But what about Eli last year? Shit the bed, the room, the whole apartment. Nothing in the media on him this year ... just more manning blowjobs.

    Speaking of blowjobs ... if you haven't seen Jim Carrey in I Love You Phillip Morris ...do so at your earliest convenience. Laugh out loud watching it on your own funny.

  • Expect this. A lot.



  • Packers

  • Chargers

  • Chargers

  • BAAAAAAAAhahahhaha…

    Hunti, thanks for reminding me. I saw that so incredibly gay commercial yesterday and busted out laughing… I went into my office to tell you guys and then forgot when we got wrapped up in the religion discussion (good post btw Irish).

    Holy shit, I’ve never seen someone sell out his own ‘move’ like that. It was so gay to begin with, now it’s so so much worse. He simply can’t use it any more, he can’t.

    From now on, it will be known to all bears fans as, “The discount double-check”. BAAAAAAAAHAHAHahahahaha… what a fucking tool.

    The Discount Double-Check

  • Oh yeah... without saying a word, when I started laughing... my wife goes, "what? Who's the goofy-looking dude?"

    Tee hee

  • oh, some good stuff from mike on, 'the religion' too.

    btw, I've been wanting to ask... you hate being called mike don't you mike?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nah man, it's cool. Tons of my friends call me Mike. Actually most of them do. Only a few actually call me Michael. But it's just habit -- when I write my name, it's Michael.

  • any of you guys see Ohio state shit the bed last night? Granted they lost their starting QB and the back up reminds me of mixture of todd collins and tony romo.

    Martinez is one fast kid.

  • Love the all new no-reply feature. Man, that is really cutting edge - I mean, what other blog offers THAT? Shit, man, we're right downtown with this place........anyone got a match?

    MB.....and IRISH....

    Back when he was in Denver, I used to watch just to see him play, and I mostly caught all the Broncos/Chargers games. It was then that I learned to despise Phillip Rivers. Watching him go all bitch on the sidelines even made my wife comment as Rivers was going off once at Jay, "He acts like a man that's not comfortable with his gender". Forever after, I thought of Phillip Rivers as a woman trapped in a man's body.

    Anyway, I digress...I didn't know about the diapetes at the time, though I did learn of it before he left Denver, due to the Payton Manning story at the Pro Bowl. But I kept pegging Cutler as "inconsistently really good", sorta like Rex Grossman without all the REALLY stupid play.

    Then when we got him, I actually had some slivers of hope that in our system - the run off the bus thing - he would become much better, because he didn't have to be the poster-boy Manning/Brady type, but could selectively be fantastic or even just around good, and win us a LOT of games. That's what I thought then.

    Then we tossed him through the Ron Turner Salad Shooter, picked him up, and threw him in front of the Mike Martz Bus.

    I honestly don't know that he's a bad QB, a Kyle Orton good-enough QB (yes, yes, I know, better arm, etc.), or a Favre/McMahon Hybrid in his teen years QB. But I do know that I have seen him look really lost out there this season and a lot of the last, which I tried to defend using the diabetes/night vision arguments, the o-line arguments, the dwarf receivers arguments, the Martz on Meth arguments, etc.

    Somewhere in there, between Ron Jaworski's "he's gonna hear footsteps after all that brutalization" and Steve Young's "he should be better than he is, regardless of circumstances", there's a truth, and I do believe that.

    I wanna see some of that Super-Jay shit, and I wanna see it all season long. I don't give a fuck if we lose some because he through an INT, etc., but I want some performances that pull him up over the wall he seems to keep hitting.

    MB - thanks again - you're right, QB's don't do that shit - not ones destined to BECOME great, not after this much time in the league. Somethings' gotta give, methinks.

    As for Huntin's roommate idea - how about Jim McMahon, Jim Harbaugh, and Kyle Orton?

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    I LOL'd at the Phillip Rivers wifey comment.

    We know how good Jay can be, we saw it while he was in Denver with a philosophy predicated on offense. In Chicago, the focus has always been on defense so the chances of us seeing anything from Jay like the way he played in Denver is going to be infrequent at best. This org. Just doesn't know how to develop a QB. What's worse, they may actually be damaging the goods. Permanately.

    I know that sounds terrible but it sure looks to be the way things are headed if we can't get the guy some help, it could get really ugly if Martz doesn't work out and now Jay has what? 4 O coordinators in 5 years? That's not good for anyone. While there are plenty of obvious excuses as to why he has struggled, he has not played as well as he could have so far this year so he is not without blame. I just hope this offense and Martz can overcome themselves and find an identity, even if it's handing the ball to Forte 20+ times every game before Jay starts letting it fly.

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    i was hoping mcmahon's brash behavior would come out
    i think a few suprises from jay aimed at martz might help
    a bit of rebellion;
    on the field or in the meetings
    martz seems too comfortable ......... how about a little mutiny

  • Yeah, I don't know SD... I just get the feeling that as long as we have the McCaskeys and angelo, we'll never get to see the best Jay has to offer. Sad for us, sad for him.

    (ps. discount double check!!!)

    Irish, watched the harris video... at the end when he said he's 100% healthy and ready to go. Maybe I've been watching too much Lie to Me, but I don't believe he's 100% yet. Something came over his face when he said that.

    Anyone see the maynard/edgar fight last night. Man, I was pulling for Maynard - not sure why, but I don't like edgar. He let him off the hook in rd one man. Should have finished.

  • Canada, yeah, I get it... all SB champs get it... especially when they look as strong as they have in the subsequent year, but man it was hard to watch lowlights of all the games back to back. The scores were all 3-7 point differences and fucking Jay was throwing pics like they were candy. Just painful to watch knowing we've only won one of those in the last two seasons.

  • Hrmm, tough...

    CIN +2.5
    NYJ +9
    DEN +4

    Dammit, I really wasn't sure which of these 3 plus MIN -2 to go with, but there we go...

  • Packer, Chargers, Giants

  • By the way, what did Matt Millen call Jaws that was so derogatory? Does anyone remember?

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