Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions Game Preview

Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions Game Preview

The Bears are walking into a difficult, difficult situation Monday night.  Mike Francesa has talked about it on WFAN and I think he’s right: the Lions and their fans will see this primetime affair, against the Chicago Bears, as their “coming out party”.  The Bears will be walking into a maelstrom of emotion as the Motor City plans to revs its engines and announce to the national football audience, “This is our time.”

I don’t think it is.


  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • I think the Lions have a reckoning coming.  They have not been outplayed in the first halves of their last two games.  They have been blown out.  They have been dominated.  And they’ve worked their way back into these games based upon two elements:  (1) Bad coaching and quarterback play from their opponents.  Les Frazier inexplicably put a 20-point lead on the shoulders of McNabb over Adrian Peterson and Tony Romo was disgraceful down the stretch in Dallas.
  • (2) Calvin Johnson.  Have you seen the catches he made to beat Dallas?  Both of them were jump balls in the end zone.  On one he was blanketed by a corner.  On the other he was surrounded by three defensive backs.  If the ball is in the air and Johnson can see it, he’s going to catch it.  You can double team him with Revis and Deion and he’s putting up triple-digit yards and a pair of scores.
  • The other advantage the Lions have Monday night is their front four’s ability to rush the passer.  This is concerning but the Bears have played their two finest offensive games, both as a line and as a unit, against 4-3 defenses with good pass rushers.  I think that continues.
  •  Look for the Bears to keep the terrific Tyler Clutts on the field as a safety measure against Suh and hand the ball to Forte/Barber 30+ times.  If they get the run game to be productive, the back end of the Lions defense is sub-mediocre.  Plays can be made downfield.
  • Devin Hester’s season had been building to the Carolina game.  He was steps from breaking one throughout the first quarter of the season.  Teams will begin paying attention to him again now and he’ll start wreaking havoc on opposing game plans.  Hester’s had some lethal evenings indoors.
  • The Bears know that stopping Calvin Johnson from getting his is just not something anyone on their roster is capable of doing and will commit this week to stopping the run.  I think pressure on Urlacher, Briggs and Roach will lead to them doing it.
  • When they do, the front four must pressure Stafford.  If he’s going to complete passes to Johnson and Pettigrew, the Bears can’t let those plays be thirty and forty yarders.  The reason Steve Smith was able to find all those spaces in the zone was twofold: no pressure and Cam Newton’s escapability.  Stafford ain’t going to make people forget Houdini with his escaping.  He’s a pocket guy.  Julius Peppers has to make that pocket a frightening place to be.  Stafford’s had trouble surviving these Bears games.  Let’s keep the trend going.
  • I think the Lion that wins the game is a Nittany one.  Robbie Gould on a late field goal.

Chicago Bears 26, Detroit Lions 24

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  • Somebody grab me an OJ, cause I'm FIRSTY.

  • Mully and Handley this morning speculated that Harris may not be back, with rumor that he can only go about 75% top speed with the hammy.

    The consensus with their guest caller was that the way to neutralize Megatron was for Peppers to cripple Stafford. Again. Problem solved.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fuckity fuck fuck fuck.

    man, we really need him back. the other two are terrible tacklers with almost no dicipline over the top. Did I say fuck yet?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That sound simple enough except that it was Stafford's backup, Shaun Hill, who threw the controversial "No Catch" pass to Megatron at the end of the opener last year.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    True enough. Still, crippling Stafford again would be fun.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That throw was about the only thing that went right, er... almost went right for the Hill or Lions offensively all afternoon.

    I would not be that afraid of Hill, although I suppose the point remains that Johnson can catch a freeball thrown up by anybody...

  • if any of you are in the VA area (near Fairfax), I'll be there over the Christmas weekend. send me a tweet (@FQD1911) or e-mail me ( and i'll try to link up with you.

  • agreed on the OL; Dallas' OL (which could be worse than ours) kept Suh pretty quiet all game...if the line blocks like they did against the Panthers, Matty's going to go off again.

  • Ok, last word on this (for now) Mike/Doc...

    "Not that any of that matters to your point. Missing the playoffs is still missing the playoffs. But other than maybe 2004, the Bears have always been competitive under Smith, even in their down years."

    That exactly is what keeps us where we are without winning anything of consequence… ever. Juuuust good enough to aaaalmost make the playoffs.... juuuust good enough to get to the big show and then shit the bed… aaaaaalmost good enough to be good some years.

    Not. Good. Enough. For. Me.

    No thanks. Personally, I refuse to accept mediocrity and I don’t want it on my most favoritist team of all times. I get that there's nothing I personally can do about it, but I guess that's why I tell all you guys how I feel... it's my only recourse and semi-cathartic option.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd say fighting for a playoff spot every year is better than mediocre....but I get where you're coming from. A team as storied and that has as much upside as the Chicago Bears should be an elite team, not just "in the hunt" every year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I debated even posting that because I knew this would be the response. Look I understand, and even largely agree... but you have to set reasonable standards, and acknowledge luck and freak occurrences play a (large role).

    Even if you took the best, awesomest GM and HC in history, and time-warped them into today in their prime, gave them their first choice of assistants, and locked them and their entire rockstar staff up for 20 years... how many Super Bowls do you think they would win? How many would they lose? How many playoffs would they miss? I'd probably bet even money on any of the following: they'd miss the playoffs at least 6 times, they'd make no more than 5 SBs, they'd lose at least 1 SB, and they'd win no more than 2. The best in history for 20 years.

    It's easy to pick the "best" based on who survives (called survivorship bias -- if 10,000 monkeys invest in the stock market, at least one will do phenomenally well and look like a genius, but good luck knowing in advance which monkey it'll be be, or too bad for you when you back the monkey with the track record and he turns out to be just average after all), but most of what happens is just luck.

    ALL you can really do is get people good enough to put you in position to have a run of good luck at the end. Get a staff capable of taking you to the playoffs regularly -- once you're in, anything can happen. To expect more than that is mostly just wishful thinking that you (or coaches or GMs) can exert control over luck and the fates.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    100% agree with your summary paragraph mike. That's exactly right. As I posted a few threads ago, more than ever it's struck me this year how much injuries and luck play a huge part of a team's success in any given year...

    ..BUT, to your point, you want the best people in place when your numbers hit and everything lines up. If you don't, you get the 2010 Chicago Bears. I would guarantee that if we had a better oline and one WR like boldin/marshall, that we would have at least been in the SB, if not won it outright.

    So basically, we completely agree... I just tend to be a bit more vocal/dramatic/pissed off about the reality of our situation.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i saw jackie stewart describe what it is like to use your whole body to it's most maximum ability; before it becomes out of control
    everything co-ordinated in perfect syncopation; at the highest possible speed
    this is the best description, i have ever heard, regarding top level execution

    it is what i would like to see the players try to attain in every game
    this zone is rare, but attainable; through the utmost awareness
    give me an army of these types to go into battle with;
    then we will always walk away from your bear experience satisfied
    win or lose
    it is all left on the turf

    i would post a link; but I saw this, only tonight in the scorcese doc. on the beatle george
    2nd disc bout 20% in

    i will just say this.....
    everyone needs to see this
    it is a profound look at life on this rock since ww2
    he lived an extremely rare experience

    it is lengthy.....maybe an off season project
    or if you get layed up in the house for a day
    it will shake your core

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    100% agreement.
    I'll leave it at that too, there are some faint hearts who get hurt by seeing management criticized and are happy with winning more games than the Browns ... but if it fosters goodwill .... perhaps we can stop repeating ourselves and just try and enjoy the football.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Haha, now we're having our hearts questioned. Look, it's simple -- there's a time and place for everything.

    Would you as an advisor or a fan tell a boxer to ditch his manager or his training program in the middle of a bout? Or even right before a bout when it's too late to do shit about it? Would you tell a NASCAR driver to forget his engine crew in the middle of a cup campaign? No, that's largely pointless and just makes the season aggravating.

    Criticize things you see on the field. Save the calls for firing and the final judgment on offseason moves/players until after the season (or at least after elimination). The question every fan should ask themselves is "are you here to enjoy and share a team's struggle to achieve excellence for a season, or are you here to bitch about the long-term fate of a doomed franchise?" It's fine for a person to be both, but why not focus on the season and save the other for the off-season please?

  • In reply to Michael L:

    You responded to a post which you clearly didn't read.

    And don't tell me what I can or cannot post on here.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Sorry if it came across that way -- I absolutely feel you can post whatever you want.

    I'm just explaining the logic behind these "faint-hearted" posters here -- speaking only for myself of course, but I imagine the others you were grouping in probably don't think too differently.

    I did read your response carefully, and thanks for fostering goodwill. I wasn't trying to criticize you at all -- only trying to explain that it isn't faint-heartedness and getting butt-hurt that is why some of us complain -- which is what you implied of us. It's cool Irish though. Feel free to call us pussies if that's what you really think of us -- I won't stop you.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    We all want the same thing Mike. Nobody will be happy if we lose to the Lions and everyone will be elated if we win. The frustration has to go somewhere, and the management, not the players, is where it goes.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Speaking of faint hearts...

  • Where's the pick three? I need some advice for my parlay cards this weekend!

  • "(1) Bad coaching and quarterback play from their opponents."

    Well then let's hope that our Play Calling both on defense and offense will ADJUST to the situation AND Jay gets rid of the ball if about to get sacked..because they WILL get pressure on him. I mean we already have "mediocre" coaching...that's just a breath away from "bad".

    "...the front four must pressure Stafford."

    NOT going to happen...we need to send more in that our front four. Peppers was shut down vs. Carolina I don't expect Detroit's O-line to do any worse. WTF happened to Bears Blitzing on 3rd and long downs and especially when they ,ine up in the shotgun. Come on man!! If we turn it up and do get to Stafford we have a shot if we just send our front 4 we're screwed. Besides Detroit will adjust to the quick 2 step passes under our coverage since we're locked in Cover two if Stafford starts getting hit.

    I hope with all my might that my predictions do NOT come true and the Bears actually change some things up to screw the Lions and dominate. I'm just not convinced our coaches are smart enough to do it.

  • hee hee:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's has to be the first time I have ever saw Hilter on Wee...that was f*cking funny!

  • Narcissus just CANNOT STAND being yesterday's news.

  • As much as I hear about the Coming Out of the Lions every where I go, I still can't buy it. Our running game will expose some exploitable matchups in the secondary.

    As for Megatron; I was trying to come up with a out of the box way of dealing with him. I'd say whenever we are in the red zone, we throw Urlacher in to rush the passer and drop Julius in as the Mike or as a DB on Johnson. Just try to throw over Peppers.

  • In reply to MichBearFan:

    As crazy a best Peppers is, that might just work

  • Have to laugh about Hank pulling out the first amendment while looking for sympathy. Nobody is stopping him from saying whatever stupid thing he wants to say. However, if you say stupid shit that offends some people there are consequences. It's the flip side of the Dixie Chick bad mouthing W. Nobody kept her from saying anything but it really hurt the group's earning power. It's not like Ted Nugent. His fans are all 14 year-old boys that never grew up so he can say all the stupid shit he wants.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The Dixie Chicks thing was interesting, Canada.

    There was an organised nationwide campaign against the Dixie Chicks. That was no spontaneous outburst of emotion from a wounded populace, it was a carefully co-ordinated witchhunt. It sent out a clear message - if you love your country then listen to your President and never question them, even if they're a complete buffoon acting as a puppet for the Federal Reserve and the Military Industrial Complex and all the other assholes with their fingers in the pie. Your pie. I'lll leave it up to your good selves to draw conclusions as to who footed the bill, but when you have a bunch of organized CD-burnings going on all across the country it stops and makes you think, right?

    1. What's going on here?

    2. Didn't the fools who organized this realize that CDs don't even burn?

    "If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."
    - George Washington

    "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    I don't think Willams meant the holocaust part, clearly. Williams was drawing parallels between two leaders, and implying that America is becoming a fascist state - which by Franklin D. Roosevelt's definition, it is :

    “ The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.”

    Anyone here think Corporatism hasn't replaced democracy? The aftermath of 9/11 was that all remaining personal freedoms were eradicated through executive orders and Joint Resolutions, giving total control to the President and removing the judicial, legislative and executive checks and balances that prevent a single man going to war and using nuclear weapons on his fellow man.

    A true patriot questions authority. Williams didn't incite hatred - which is perhaps the only time freedom of speech should ever be curtailed - he was warning his other countrymen, the sheep who can't see for themselves that you should never blindly follow leaders lest they lead you off a cliff.

    Go Bears.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Jefe, have you got any Thomas Jefferson Bears T-shirts? I love that fucker.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    All well and good, Irish.

    I just hope you don't believe the protests on Wall Street right now are a "spontaneous outburst of emotion from a wounded population".

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    hey dave your response to the einstein posting from irish a day or so ago was talking about "waves"
    later that day i was reading in frijof capras book "tao of physics"; and he was explaining waves thusly:

    "at the subatomic level, matter does not existwith certainty
    at definate places, but rather show 'tendencies to occur'.
    In the formulation of quantum theory , these tendencies are expressed as probabilities and are associated mathematical quantities which take the form of waves. this is why paricles can be waves at the same time. They are not 'real' three-dimensionalwaves like sound waves. They are 'probability waves', abstract mathematical quantities with all the characteristic properties of waves which are related to the probabilities of finding the particles at particular points in space and at particular times. all the laws of atomic physics are expressed in terms of these probabilities. We can never predict an atomic event with certainty; we can only say how it is likely to happen."
    the wave you talked about and irish
    was it an actual 3 dimensional measured object; or was it of the mathematical probability form?

    also maybe you could give me your thoughts on the above mention article; i am curios how the right views this

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    That's the mind-bender about QM. Newtonian physics is observable, it has a 'picture'. QM is not observable and as you pointed out, it's all probabability and has no 'picture'. I'll have to go back and see what happened at the end of that thread though. Don't tell MB you were posting on a dead thread :o)

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    They should be tearing the place down brick by brick and putting heads on top of spikes ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    a good student of advaita-vedanta questions everything

    mr. irish: try this will get you to this, but i will post a link at the end of this

    the making of corporate michael scherer

    in 2003 i did talks on this topic for our union at the local and state level
    i don't know if they got this point; becauase everybodies world was still on the up tick financially, so there wasn't much "concern"....i'm still o.k. ...ya seem hyperbolic
    but, one thing I know from living in this particular body
    I can see things coming before they arrive

    think "citizen's united" the most corrupt supreme court lynching of the american public sector in this lifetime
    and you will have the ending to this horror story

    briefly this article describes the cold calculation of combining a corporate freindly judiciary, with willing corporate creeps;and making our federal judiciary the corporate world's handmaiden in re-writing business law for generations to come

    this nations laws are rigged and it is describe so perfectly by one of the best written, best researched/investigated, and best attacks on the lust for power, control, and $$$$$$$$$$

    if you want to know what motivates karl rove....this is all the background you will begins with his early start as a political mailer......and ends with his viral infection of business law throughout this wonderful landscape that used to be democratic

    mb and doc you need to read this if you are watching[porate-judiciary

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Thanks, I will read it.

    Karl Rove ... one of the first heads I'd like to see up on a spike.

  • From what Brad Biggs said last week, Harris won't play this week.

    I have a similar prognostication in this weeks' Bear Garden podcast, 27-24 on a Goulder.

  • The only way the Bears win Monday nights game is if they can be successful in the passing game. There is no way the Bears can score enough points with only the ground game going. The Lions can score quickly and there D line is very good. I suspect they will try to make the Bears one dimensional on O. Martz better have a solid game plan or forget about it. Even though the Packers have a better offense than the Lions, I think the Lions are the most balanced team in our Division, possibly even the NFC.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I'm worried we won't even be able to run it BD. The Lions are about 20 spots higher than the Panthers run D. With Spencer's hand busted, no Carimi etc. ... facing Suh, Fairley and Bosch .... meh. I'm almost glad I won't be able to see the game. Almost.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    But we got Clutts, and to tell the truth, Cookie has looked pretty decent in the run game.

    You're right the Lions are a lot better, but it is Absolutely Essential that the Bears be able to run the ball effectively. If we go to seven step drops and 85% passing, we'll see Hanie or Enderle for the rest of the season.


    Did you see spencer in at center?

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Good video Artoo.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Good vid. Utrlacher looked pissed at himself at the end when he congratulates Cutler- like they'd just lost the game.

  • Interesting that the confidence meter has jumped 20 points since this weekend.

  • And in other news, Frank the Tank will be starting at RT with Louis at RG. I assume that means Spencer's hand is swole like a VIP.

  • Ruh Roh!!!! I just watched Joniak's Keys to the game. I didn't realize the Lions are tied for 1st in the league in takeaways. Just who do they think they are?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Thank you, Tony Romo.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Don't forget that DeAngelo Hall probably maxed out his incentive clause after Jay's picked on him last year. Lets hope good Jay shows up Monday Night.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Kind of hard to forget that monstrosity of a game.

  • Fuck the Lions. They should be 2-2 but were gifted 2 games. 6 point dogs is fucking ridiculous, this Lions team has done precisely dick to deserve the credit they are getting. Fuck stafford, right in his fat fucking face. Bears should take this Lions hype as a slap in the face and play accordingly. I predict Stafford shits himself in q2 at about the 4 minute (skid) mark

  • What's your prediction record Coach? Please tell me you batting over .500.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I'm 0 fer 6 on my on the field shitting predictions. Feeling good about this one though...

  • Hey MB, it looks like Meriweather's got his Taylor Mays on.

  • I saw that Trac. I wouldn't mind if swole would wrap up too.

    I noticed that too MBP. The casual fan (homer) is a funny creature.

    Also, I just heard that Mr. Fairly will debut in his first NFL game on Monday night. Welcome to the nfl ahole…. Meet tyler clutts and the barbarian.

    (Have I mentioned that I fucking hate the gnomes?)

  • Two thoughts - who ever thought there would be a LIONS game that we'd consider a huge win for the Bears?

    Also - this has the mark of the traditional "huge disappointment" game I've seen too many times. National TV and we end up looking bad. I hope I'm wrong but I've seen that script too many times.

    Just imagine this - should the Bears not win, then the sad fact is Angelo has been unable to keep the Bears ahead of the Lions, never mind catching up to the Packers.

    Could get ugly next week in the media.

    But then again, the Bears usually rise up in situations like this.

    So I optimistically predict the Bears to win a close game and derail the Lions bandwagon.

  • Unfair to criticize Jerry for not keeping ahead of the Lions. You can criticize him for a lot of things but Detroit got to this place with Calvin Johnson, Stafford, and Suh - all top 5 overall selections. The Lions had to be dreadful for fifteen years to build this core.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    It's about time the poor fans had some damn luck. How can anybody begrudge Lions fans a few good weeks ..... before Stafford gets his block knocked off that is.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Hell, they can win all year, so long as it ain't against us.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Uh, no - because that puts us squarely out of the playoffs. I'm not rooting for any other g-d damn NFC team while we're still in the hunt. And event then, I'll be rooting for us to spoil their victory parties as long as possible.

  • I couldn't agree more with 'Mustache.' This Lions team should be 2-2, if not 1-3. But none of that matters. Their wins have got them brimming with confidence and that's what scary. On top of that, after two huge road wins that stadium is going to be nearly impossible to quiet if the home team gets off to a fast start. We need to pound the ball with Forte and Barber, crack off a few big runs and get an early score.

    Also, where are the roll-outs and bootlegs that Martz finally put in last year to save Cutler's ass? Cutty'll need 'em Monday and I think he'll get them.

    We win.

    Can't wait.

  • In reply to WeShallReturn:

    And why do we have to lobby for them? Roll-outs. Lots of 'em. What gets into Martz that he thinks we don't need slants, shotguns and roll-outs?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Lord knows, Irish, but the strengths of this offense lie in slants, shotguns and roll outs. And like Jeff mentioned a few posts ago - the short crossing route. Yeah, we got the speed to go deep, but it doesn't seem like Cutler's taken a shot all season. At least give our shifty speedsters a chance to make guys miss in the open field.

  • See that Jimmy?

    Fix the site damn it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's Gnome Chompsky! Get it?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    How did you ... why .... nah .. .anyway, thanks. Family Guy answered the origin of everything in one of the links.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    lol... too bad I can't see the video here, but the name is enough to give me a snarky smile.

  • Plus, our defense is getting shit on. Urlacher and the boys rarely put up with that for long. Stafford may not get knocked out of the game again, but he will take a few good licks.

  • china dead

  • I had to post it. Whether you're a republican or democrat...some pieces of shit just have to get got.

    "The White House is portraying the killing of Awlaki as a demonstration of President Barack Obama's toughness toward militants who threaten the United States. But the process that led to Awlaki's killing has drawn fierce criticism from both the political left and right.

    In an ironic turn, Obama, who ran for president denouncing predecessor George W. Bush's expansive use of executive power in his "war on terrorism," is being attacked in some quarters for using similar tactics. They include secret legal justifications and undisclosed intelligence assessments."

    I had no problem with Bush doing it and I have no problem with Obama doing it. When the Big Bad Book gets opened on a daily basis and it says that a known scumbag has been spotted in "spot x" then a drone better be flying around firing missles like Nintendo.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    I agree with you 1000%. Better yet, find their opium bars and deploy the Jericho.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    Look, I don't discuss politics much here, but I have to ask.... Where do you draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable covert unilateral military action? Or more to the point, where do these secret power brokers draw the line, and how do you trust that they'll put it in the right place?

    Sure there are nasty people out there -- some of them arguably deserve to be killed in a "shoot first, ask questions later" jackboot door-ramming style execution. Fine, let's take that as a given. What happens though when that list also includes people who're just inconvenient to the US government, or to US companies with a hand in the pockets of these powerful men? When it includes say someone like a Benazir Bhutto, or a nationalization proponent like Chavez, or anybody who is deemed an "enemy combatant" because he does business with the Russians or French and lives in an unstable country. When there is no accountability and no due process or even post-judicial review, you can never be sure who is getting killed or why -- and who benefitted.

    Further, think about this: China and Russia have their own list of "enemies of the state" that they consider terrorists who undermine their national security. So you would be perfectly cool with China launching point-munitions, cruise missiles, or dropping cluster "smart"-bombs onto homes inside the US if they determined through secret intelligence that one of these enemies was living somewhere in the US? Or how about Spetsnaz helicoptering in or beach landing for a quick insertion-extraction kidnapping mission? If it would bother you, then why?

    Secret, unaccountable, unilateral justice exercised on foreign sovereign soil has repercussions and should not be undertaken lightly. I reject any notion that "the guys in charge can be trusted to make the right call and draw the line in the right place." If 60 years of the CIA, 40 years of the DEA, however many years of the BATF, 100 years of the FBI, and more have taught us anything, it's that they absolutely cannot be trusted to curtail their scope of reach, avoid foreign entanglements, or even follow the law.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Michael, do you know what the Allied forces did after the Axis powers surrendered in WW2? Anyone who was caught still fighting were lined up against a wall and shot. That's right, no trial, no ACLU, no midnight vigils were held. Not only was that tactic effective in eliminating the threat, it drove fear into the heart of those still resisting and they put down their arms. These bastards have no honor and thus they don't deserve quarter. No matter how ugly collateral damage can be at times, it's a necessary evil.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I rarely talk politics on this blog either, but I think the point Michael L is making is that this is no longer the "good ole days" when enemy combatants are neatly distinguished by uniform.

    It's a slippery slope argument (So, if an "american" can be declared an enemy combatant and killed without trial, who determines what an "enemy combatant is?"), and it's being made by both "Progressives" and "Libertarians" for different reasons. The former believe in the rule of law, the latter are philosophically distrustful of the government making correct decisions. You mixed this in with some history, like Martin Luther King Jr, Chavez, Lennon (of all ppl!) being targeted by the government, and this latest situation SHOULD raise an eyebrow. People and organizations rarely give up power once attained. Not everyone is like George Washington or Cincinnatus.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Governments have and always will do what they've done for the ages. Beware the Government/Military/Industrial/Media Complex. Only those that take the time to educate themselves will know what's going on.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    And you still can't stop it.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I knew we'd agree on something Michael. Well said.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Yeah, I'm sure others would be scared to know just how close I am to your viewpoints on many of these matters... =)

    Unfortunately I don't see practical solutions -- ones that have a chance in hell of being implemented anyway. The only thing that gives me some hope is seeing a new generation of youth that understands that liberty does not come for free, and sees how stacked the system is against them (and most of the rest of Americans).

    2008 gave me a beacon of hope, and I don't mean some bullshit vague promise of "Change"... but that there were thousands of college age kids out there screaming to end the Fed. The sad truth is that even if the Fed were shut down (as unlikely as it is to come to pass), that by itself isn't enough to turn this ship around. But the fact that many young eyes are being opened and people are seeking true knowledge is a powerful first step that may portend of good things to come.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I'm with you too, Michael.

    With the drones, they don't even have to worry about endangering their operatives. So perhaps the most effective restraint on this behavior, reluctance to put good men at too high a risk, has been removed.

    It will really get scary when the killing becomes totally automated.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I want to know why we don't have a pass blocking scheme MB. Even Brady couldn't do well in this scheme.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Brady couldn't do well against the Bills! The Bills pooched me two weeks in a row. At least this week I'm aware that the Bengals are the leading defense in the NFL. Sheesh.

  • Man, not sure if it's just me but this site is sooooo broken. Clicking reply checks my login then logs me out.

    When I click the login link, it logs me in automatically again.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Too bad this soooo broken site couldn't infect you, maybe even break your hunt and peck finger, then we'd be spared your idiotic drivel.
    BEARs are going DOWN!!!!!!

  • In reply to greenbayman:

    Look away, Dave.

    So let me get this straight. Someone who is not welcome here, is telling one of the people who is welcome here, that he is not welcome here? Do you see the irony in this? I say, if he's not welcome by someone who is not welcome, then he must be welcome. So we appreciate your confirmation.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Wow, that's some deep shit......
    The logic of the double negative is spellbinding.
    Let me guess, you teach middle school arithmetic.
    I appreciate your appreciation.
    That double positive is not a negative, it is heartfelt honesty.
    Does facetiousness cause negativity?

  • In reply to greenbayman:

    and you actually think your an individual in that body who is having it's own personal experience

    let me mark your conscience:
    you are ignorant
    you will continue spewing this foolish arrogant bullshit; until you begin to watch that body you call your own start to decay
    what will that mind of yours begin to tell this so called football guru then
    I am sure that you will struggle with that last breath experience.....painfully and fearfully

    come here to criticize the football stuctures....that's the game
    criticize another, and you show just how little you really know

    son you better find out who you are
    time is short
    otherwise you have wasted your human experience on your warped desire to be important
    well, you're not
    you see, your just the same as me..........................

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    sorry dave,
    terror in the household must be escorted out the door
    it's the "patriotic" thing to do for a brother

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Thanks for the warning, Doc.

  • 100% johnny.

    All this whining about that piece of shit terrorist being an american and should we have killed an american. Shit, even fucking ron paul (who has some really logical and reasonable thoughts on policy) said obama should be impeached for it!??!?!

    What in thee fuck? Are you kidding me??? Put that political play back in your pocket ron, you sound like a fucking idiot.

    Kill that piece of shit, and then have some ground troops go in and put his ugly hairy fucking severed head on a post for all other pos terrorists to see what will happen to them if they fuck with us.

    American my fucking ass. He relinquished that gift when he grew that fugly dirty beard. POS got exactly what he deserved… stealthy hot and firey death from a machine 30,000 ft above. The only better way for him to go would have been at one of the CIAs secret torture chambers… slowly and very painfully.

    …oh, shit.... did I say that all out loud?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry Ron Paul supporters but that guy is a very very small man. How come everyone forgets that he refused to send back KKK donations in the past when asked about it. I don't like him and I think he's a little twit. I would never trust a weasel like him. I'd take Obamo over him cause at least I know Obama he stands.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    If you meant "at least I know where Obama stands ..." then I hope you're aware it's full square behind the Federal Reserve BD. The vcery first 100%-Wall Street backed Prez. Barack Obama.

    Ron Paul is the only congressman that I've seen even approaching the taboo subject of the root of all America's problems - the Fed scam. He stops short of telling Americans that there is a way out of it by repealing the Federal Reserve Act, so in that sense he is still a shill. How many congressmen are there? And not a one will tell the truth. Shame on them. Long live the revolution.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    you need to be reading denis kucinich
    he has an excellent interview that is posted in both

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I don't see him as a shill. Truthfully speaking, few people can publicly come out as an advocate for abolishing the Fed and be taken seriously politically. The fact that he's managed to consistently get elected, despite pinning the root of inflationary bubbles and many economic malinvestments directly on the Fed in speeches and in Congressional hearings with now 3 Fed Chairmen, frankly borders on miraculous.

    In a way he is trying to tell Americans there's a way out of it... in the only real way possible. He pushes for greater accountability and transparency and auditing of the Fed, which is probably the only way the public would ever be convinced to disband it -- by seeing undeniable proof of what they've done behind closed doors. Also by building greater awareness of the hypocrisy of the Fed's mission and charter by creating some classic video clips of him challenging and pwning Bernanke at Congressional hearings.

    The unfortunate truth however is that the Fed isn't the root of all our problems. It is a big root, but not the only root. It isn't even the only root of all the problems with the financial system. Fractional-reserve banking creates an inflationary pyramiding of debt, with or without the Fed. But there's no question that the Fed makes things much, much worse (in return for helping certain people make a shit-ton of money... friends of bankers, of course).

  • Max, how many bears blog usernames do you have man? I honestly think you should see a therapist dude... you know, for yours and the safety of others (but mostly for others).

  • How about one of these Trac:

  • Stupid reply to post function isnt working. Anyways setting up secret hearings to decide who our govt is going to kill next is a bit too Orwellian for me but if thats the world you want to live in then go for it.

  • Sadly, it's the liberals who make the country seem more like a big brother state. Oh, he said this, well that probably offends somebody so we should fire him or make him give a fake public apology. I see your point Sac, and I do agree with it, but Orwellian, we already are.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Sadly, it is conservative/corporate greed that forces people to resort to expanded governmental control. The economic elites show nothing but contempt for the society that allows them to benefit. They place acquisition/protection of private property above all else, and have a lack of mutual respect for their fellow man and an utter disregard for civil society. Fuck Adam Smith and his invisible hand, the hand is the manipulator and we are the marionettes.....

  • In reply to greenbayman:

    Wow, we get an actual genuine post from the troll. The irony of course is that Doc is about as liberal as they come, so he was lamenting their role in Sac's reservation. I.e. he wasn't making an out of nowhere swipe at liberals, thus inviting an off-topic return swipe at conservatives.

    Anyway the sad truth is that corporatism is not remotely limited to either party -- it pervasively infects both the GOP and the Dems. It is the purview of big government, and expansive powers, which the majority of both parties enthusiastically endorse (despite the supposed "conservative" value of small, limited government). Politicians on both sides feed at the trough of big business (you are deluded if you think it is only on the Repub side). This is unfortunately the dirty underbelly of expansive federal powers... they then have the power to pick winner and losers in the corporate world. If you think there is any political will to "fix" the system (if even there is a way to balance power with unbiased application of it), don't be fooled -- there are not more than a handful of politicians in DC that are in the slightest bit interested in cutting off the hand that feeds.

    Surprise! Economic elites have their hands at the deepest levels of both parties. Don't believe me? Look up campaign contribution sources in presidential elections. Huge banking and law in particular are big Dem backers. Rockefellers have had a constant presence in the Dem party since the early 1900s. Just like everybody else, they want to make sure laws are made their way, to suit their business agendas and positioning.

    You're absolutely right that corporatism is destroying America, but you're dead wrong that it is at all a partisan battle. No, the only battle being waged is occupying the public mindset with frivolous ideological and petty swipe-tag debates and indignation so that the "big boys" can get what they want with less scrutiny.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Christ Mike, if you go around telling the truth on the interwebz - people won't like you. I found that out the best policy is to stick to funny pictures.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    while the common folk are hotly debating border control, euthanasia, abortion, wars, gay marriage, etc...the bankers are laughing all the way to the bank, their banks, which we paid for, while worrying about losing benefits, hours, pay or our jobs all together.

    OK, I gotta stop now.

    Serenity now...serenity now...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Fuckin A man. Fkn A.

  • In reply to 4ever85:


    So since you know how it works, and that you cannot beat them, maybe the solution is to join them.

    Although I made a few bucks in September shorting the bastards.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Frankly, I never mentioned any political party affiliation. I mentioned conservative ideology. And if you see no difference in ideologies, you are not as bright as first glance would make you appear. Politicians actions and words are oftentimes unrelated, or worse yet, complete contradictions.
    You are correct, it is all about public mindset. This is easily influenced through propaganda, has been throughout history. Modern communication techniques make the purveyors of mass communication more powerful than ever, evidence Murdoch and his Faux News. How much media coverage is granted the Occupation of Wall Street compared to the coverage of a couple of backwoods. hillbilly, KKK, teabagger bigots getting together. These favored racists fail to walk and talk at the same time, but they show an uncanny ability to spit tobacco juice whilst simultaneously spewing derogatory epithets aimed toward the President.
    The "big boys" already bought the executive, the legislature, and SCOTUS. Now with their plans for tort deform, they will own every courthouse as well. There is no recourse granted through our current political system, other than the ballot box, which is also bought and paid for by corporate america. Give thanks to SCOTUS' decision in the Citizens United case for this turn of events.
    Oh well, I still have the Packers to ease my pain. Your Bears are woefully inadequate, therefore you have to rely on, as John Lennon stated, keeping "doped with religion and sex and t.v.(video games)" so you can "think your so clever and classless and free; but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see."

  • Which is better, 1984 or Animal Farm?


  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    the movies or the books? lol

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Ha. Trick question.... there's snatch in 1984, albeit unwashed. Animal Farm is just a pig movie featuring a grafitti artist.

  • You guys wish it were still 1984; although the bears still sucked back then, they have devolved into useless vacuum pumps today. The current chicago bear team reminds me of Orwell's "Down and Out in Paris and London," nothing but a ragtag bunch of bums......

  • that was rather whitty... you know, for a squealer-type.

  • vxmcclure23 about 5 hours ago Bears have decided not to re-sign Pisa Tinoisamoa at the time, although his knee checked out fine.


    and damn again:

    BradBiggs about 3 hours ago #Bears limited in practice: S Chris Harris (hammy), CB Charles Tillman (hip, OL Chris Spencer (hand), TE Matt Spaeth (calf)

  • You express whimsical wit with your use of the term whitty and squealer. But nonetheless, you are still an ignorant asshole......

  • where does all the aggression come from Max? Honestly... I'm curious.

  • Having Roach in at linebacker instead of Pisa makes me sad. Roach is an empty suit. He is 9th on the team in tackles and is our starting linebacker. Pisa was 7th on the whole team in tackles last year and he played 6.5 games.

    If his knee was even semi healed he is twice the player that Roach is. Braintrust fucks up again. Call Lofa god damn it.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    Lofa is

    A. A RFA, meaning Jerry would need to give something to the Seahawks for the privilege of signing him.

    B. A true Mike, probably unable to switch to Sam in this scheme.

  • Check out the top sign:

    that's for our new rookie 2nd rd MLB Vontaze Burfict.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Watch this video until the very end

    He even fights with his team mates. Dude has Jack Tatum blood.

  • i'm meant 10 games for PIsa.

    Oh my god Jimmy you fucking suck at your job. Fix the motherfucking website or i swear to god i will pay some little asian kid to hack into it, fix it in 20 minutes while also flooding your work emails with gay porn....really gay porn.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    Yeah. Like this:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's a Leprechaun you stupid fuckwit!

  • they already get enough of that on their own johnny.

    I'm with you... if the knee was ok, why not? I have to believe the knee didn't check out and they were just giving him the prof courtesy of not publicizing that fact so that he had a shot with another team.

    Or, Angelo and friends really are that fucking moronic. I know the truth, it just hurts to acknowledge.

    …and a total non sequitur for you all: why in thee fuck is Aflac running animal rapping and breaking dancing in their commercials - like it's the mid-80’s (…or Wisconsin)? Are their marketing people really that out of touch?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Where's the beef? Up Angelo's hole, apparently.

    We still have Iwuh - fuck, how worse can he be than Roach? Didn't he have like 12 tackles in a game? That's like what Roach has in 4 games...Put him in - It's better this week against Best, then next week against AP.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    That was Jamar... who's now out of the nfl with a neck injury

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, Iwuh had 10 tkls against the SeaChickens last year when Briggs was out, if I remember correctly.

    But god knows how good he is in coverage...

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • 100% mike. Well said. (re: corporatism above)

  • James Francis Greenfield, you get back to coding!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hee hee

  • Yep GP, that's one of the links I originally posted for you guys when I found out about him.

    I saw an interview where he said he's calming all the superfluous shit down and just concentrating on trying to play great football. This kid is either going to be another packman, or will be a fucking beast of an NFL MLB. I'd love the bears to take a shot with him.

    This is a great scout tape of 3 games of positives/negatives. Great instincts and timing, but also not discipline:

    You can teach discipline… not instincts or timing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "You can teach discipline"

    I hope so, if not, we're fucked with Merriweather...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    No no 85, not OUR db coaches... they can't teach sheite.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    when it comes to defining a play in front of him
    merriweather is as jittery as barney fife
    he is willing to jump at the slightest movement
    and shoot his bullet at the shadow

    he should play more contain
    that would make him slow down enough to be able to make the correct call on a play
    contain for him is still playing with risk; he just minimizes it a little

  • an observation on S.I.
    today I read the article from the cover hyping the lions
    i expected to learn something concrete I could share with you about the know some details, about personel, tendencies,

    it was nothing but a bunch of sentiment about the mood of the city......and 75% suh
    i do not read it much; but they do not always help you educate

  • would pep be gettin fined for a head shot on the picture for this thread?
    Or was he just twisting him into the ground?

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    If that were Brady in the pic instead of China Doll, the league would have taken Peps house...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    It's about the money, of course.

  • From the Suntimes...

    Jaworski said a quarterback’s feet tell him what he’s thinking.

    “And [Cutler] is just a little fast at times,” Jaworski said. “I don’t see him setting the feet — the plant, step and drive of the football — on a consistent basis.

    “When he plants that back foot and snaps it, he throws it as well as anyone in the league.”

    The protection problems, Jaworski said, clearly are an issue.

    “When you lose confidence in your pass-protection schemes, that’s what happens,” he said. “There’s no quarterback in the history of this league that enjoys getting hit.

    “Then you begin to get cabin pressure, and you feel the pressure. But sometimes it’s not even there.”

    Still, Jaworski doesn’t see a broken quarterback.

    “To Jay’s credit, he’s still looking down the field,” Jaworski said. “That’s very strong. A lot of times, that’s hard to do.”

    Martz downplayed any concern about Cutler.

    “Jay’s fine,’’ he said.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Yep, doesn't get said often, but Jay never drops his eyes. Tough. Tough. Tough.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    i told you martz wrecked the car in the bayooooooo
    that was just plain stupid

    what bothers me is the line about matching your talent with the plays in the book that they are capable of performing
    did he really scale it back for them or is this just something he read on this blog and is using for CYA

  • Did anyone read about Louis putting ten guys on the ground last game?

    I swear I never see it.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    He's a Mauler man. Capital M. Watch him. I think he'll be our best lineman. Love to see some of Levi Horn soon. Chief Bear. Can he be any worse than Omelette?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Omlette has long arms. Freakish reach-around arms, as Da Coach put it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "Freakish reach around arms"
    he has been reaching his arms around and holding two things:
    defnsive lineman

  • Can we trade Matt Spaeth for Chris Cooley?

  • Just don't forget, the Lions beat your lucky asses twice last year, now they're much better and the bears are worse... I'm pretty sure the little bears will shit the bed again!

  • In reply to MrARodgers:

    Haha, clearly some fool has forgotten which division team the Lions actually beat last year.

    I encourage the other posters to ignore that fool. But lest any readers get confused, DET went 2-4 in the division last year with their 2 victories coming against.... wait for it, GB and MIN.

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