Audibles From the Long Snapper: Bye Week Edition

Audibles From the Long Snapper: Bye Week Edition

Mea Culpa on Matt Forte's Contract

No one can mention the on-field performance of Matt Forte without discussing his off-field contract "negotiations".  There are two reasons.  (1) Forte is delivering an MVP-caliber performance for the Bears, leading the world in yards from scrimmage and providing almost 50% of the Bears offensive output.  (2) Forte is playing.  How many running backs in the NFL would even suit up on Sundays without the long term security of guaranteed money?  It speaks to the caliber and professionalism of the man and it's caused writers, analysts from across the media landscape to root for this deal to get done in short order.

And I wrong on Forte.  Dead wrong.  With successful run blocking (and he's getting that in spades) Forte is right there with the best backs in the sports.  There is no negotiation for Jerry Angelo anymore.  The Carolina Panthers gave DeAngelo Williams 5 years, 43 million and guaranteed 21 million of that.  Forte is better than Williams.  5 years.  50 million.  25 guaranteed.  Done.

On the Prospect of Gabe Carimi's Return...

They are not be a collection of the world's finest pass protectors. But since the changes made in the lead up to Minnesota - exiling Frank Omiyale, sliding Lance Louis outside, starting Chris Spencer - the current crop of Bears offensive linemen are inarguably one of the best run blocking units in the sport.  They have delivered their finest back-to-back performances in two seasons.

Now Gabe Carimi, the major first round talent, is set to return to the Bears in Philadelphia following the bye.  Is it fair to question whether the Bears should immediately insert him into the starting lineup?  Shouldn't the Bears give this current group a few more weeks together before dislodging any piece from the successful unit?  Can't Carimi's health be used to not only push Louis at RT but also J'Marcus Webb on the blindside?  There's no question the Bears envision Carimi at a ten-year starting tackle.  It is fair to question whether inserting him back into the starting lineup makes the current unit better.

Don't Count Brad Biggs Among the Chicago Media Zombies

Biggs is no David Haugh and certainly no Steve Rosenbloom.  I spend a lot of my Monday mornings reading beat writers from around the country and Biggs might the finest the NFL's got.  His analysis/reporting of the Bears late-game offensive strategy requires no additional comment:

1. At a crucial point in the game when the Bears could have polished off the Buccaneers with ease, the run/pass ratio got out of whack again.

Plenty of explanations were offered up in the locker room by the players and all pointed to the same thing: The Bucs finally had adjusted and were taking away the wide lanes they had to run on the edges through much of the game.

The Bears pounded the Bucs for 177 yards rushing asMatt Forte ran for 145 yards on 25 carries. He had 108 of the team’s 138 at halftime, and the Bears pushed their lead to 21-5 less than five minutes into the third quarter when Marion Barber took a hand-off on a lead play and broke it through a huge hole on the back side to score on a 12-yard run.

With a 16-point lead, the Bears proceeded to have 17 pass plays called by Martz and 11 runs the rest of the way, a statistic that does not include the kneel down by quarterback Jay Cutler on the final play after nickel cornerback D.J. Moore’s interception sealed the game.

“The way they were pressuring us, we weren’t going to be able to run the ball outside and get out on the edges,” Cutler said. “Because they were shooting gaps … that’s one of the things that we started feeling, started taking pressure.”

Cutler had a pass intercepted by fill-in Bucs safetyCorey Lynch in the fourth quarter, helping the Bucs make a game of it down the stretch as they scored two touchdowns in the quarter and then had the ball at the end with a chance to win.

“Not really,” Forte said when asked if he was surprised Martz went away from the running game. “They kind of stopped a few of our runs. We had to make adjustments so we (lost) our flow. We had a couple of three-and-outs and that kind of stopped us in our game plan.”

Here’s where it didn’t add up, though. The Bears were up 21-18 and had first-and-goal at the Bucs’ 4-yard line with 3:52 remaining. Three run plays there and they have a shot at punching it in the end zone or forcing Tampa to start burning through its timeouts.

On first down, Cutler threw incomplete to Devin Hester on a quick slant. On second down, Lynch nearly picked him off again at the goal line. Blitzing cornerback Ronde Barber sacked Cutler on third down and only a facemask penalty against cornerbackAqib Talib after the play gave the Bears new life, pushed back at the 6-yard line. From there, they did try three consecutive runs, but they were stopped and ultimately settled for aRobbie Gould field goal as insurance.

Yes, the Bucs went to eight-man fronts in the second half to prevent the run. Everyone plays an eight-man front near the goal line where it’s difficult to have success throwing because the field is compacted. Safeties line up three yards in the end zone and sit on routes. You want to throw it over their heads? Go ahead and try. Defensive backs don’t have to backpedal in this part of the field. When you’ve run like the Bears had, there’s got to be a way to be a better four-minute offense – which is the mode teams go in when they’re working to grind out a victory.

So, I asked Ronde Barber -- who has been around 15 seasons, well before Martz directed the Greatest Show on Turf -- if he was surprised the Bears threw the ball like they did with the lead late in the game.

“No, that’s Mike Martz,” Barber said. “They’ve got a talented quarterback, they’ve got a talented runner. I think they choose to use them equally. They’re a team that wants to throw the ball so no, I am not surprised.

“We made a play when we had to, made them pay for it, I guess. That’s what they’ve shown themselves to be so you don’t expect them to be any different because they have a lead.”

OK. The Bears certainly need to be more efficient in four-minute mode, though.

Great stuff, Biggs.

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  • First bitches

    I feel like there will be another review of the playcalling from the first half and the Bears will come out even more balanced at the right times since Carimi and Bennett will be back in the lineup.

    I'm excited for this playoff push. Winning the next two games is huge for our wildcard playoff hopes.

  • Carimi is the real deal. I say figure out how to get him in.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    i took a huge gamble going for the long post in the second position. You snuck in with a short but accurate comment regarding an important coaching decision coming up.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    I don't think there's any great dilemma here. Carimi is our first round pick, he's a LT, so let him play LT, and bench the 7th round pick. J'Marcus Webb is J'Marcus Webb. He didn't turn into a premier LT overnight. He didn't turn into a premier LT. Period. "But he'll be better with time ...." - yeah, so will red wine, that doesn't mean you drink the shit right after mixing it all up. When we have a first rounder ready to go why do we persist with Webb as a starter? Seriously, who is this guy that we owe a starting spot to? What sense does it make to draft a guy int eh first round, and then sit him ont he bench behind a 7th rounder who largely sucks?

    Lance Louis > J'Marcus Webb. + Carimi > J'Marcus Webb .... therefore Webb sits on the bench until he's needed. Let Carimi do what he was drafted to do and let him play where left tackles play. Since when has a guy who's nearly gotten his QB killed on numerous occasions got a God-given right to play on Cutler's blindside? Why all the love?

    "But Webb has improved ... but ... but " - yeah, he's improved from being officially the worst RT in the NFL to something slightly less terrible. So what? Louis is good. Carimi will be. There's plenty of space on the bench for Webb, he's not being traded anywhere and we always need backups. 95% of Pro bowlers are first round picks. I don't know how many 7th rounders exceed their natural place in the order of things, but I know it's a tiny percentage, and Webb is no phenom waiting to happen. Ride the pine. We'll let you know when you're needed. Thanks.

    It wan't surprising to see the Bucs adapt their run fits to cause us problems - that's what they do - they adapt. They're a well coached defense with an onfield DC in Barber. We did well to beat the Bucs.

    Forte? Forte isn't going anywhere, I don't know why people are getting their knickers in a twist. New contract/ no contract .... he's going nowhere. Chill.

    Biggs is good, but Gregg Easterbrook is so far and away the best writer in football it's not even close. He's an actual writer. He's written those book things, and actually has intelligent and insightful opinions on things other than the very limited world of football. Tuesday Morning Quarterback on Page2 commentary on ESPN. It's good stuff.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    As expected, Adrian Clayborn owned Webb on Sunday. Isn't Clayborn a rookie? People need to stop drinking the Webb Kool-aid just because we can run the ball occasionally, in spurts. Tampa are 22nd in the league at stopping the run. Carimi = healthy, Webb to the bench, no brainer.

  • Second Bitches

    It's going to be interesting to see whether Carimi breaks back into the lineup upon his return. Due to the fact we are focusing more on the run and Carimi was stronger in the run game I'm thinking he has to push Webb or Williams for a spot. Or maybe he can just spell guys once in a while as he matures as a football player on the sidelines while he truly gets healthy.

    Either way the blocking has improved, Spencer has impressed shutting the mouths of the people that called for more Kreutz, Louis has proved that Cutler was correct and he is the best option at RT. Webb and Williams have not played badly. That is a huge improvement. If Williams can come into his own at guard and not be a huge bust it only helps the Bears. Webb can continue to develop with pressure from the rookie, we just have to keep helping them with chips, occasional max protect and getting rid of the ball quickly.

    Second half of the season is looking up and once again I look like Nostradamus. Being a bears homer works out well when we are looking like we can make a run.

  • One slight disagreement - Williams was drafted in the first round to be a franchise tackle. The fact that we're discussing the possibility of him being a successful guard already qualifies him as a bust in my book.

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    He was drafted for his athleticism. When he is pulling he is at his best. I think you undervalue him...

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    Your book is written in a funny language.

    Any time you get a solid multi-year starter (granted Williams is not that yet but the supposition of TA was that he would become one), you cannot call that player a bust. No matter which round you drafted him in and no matter which position.

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    Showing my "ancientness" here and I am not saying Chris Williams is a raging success (yet), but in 1964, the Redksins drafted a running back out of ASU. After 2 or 3 seasons He had to be moved to receiver.

    "He" is Charley Taylor, NFL Hall-Of-Fame, class of 1984.

    Does he qualify as a "bust" ?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Great example, Al.

  • To say that Chris Williams has been not bad is an understatement. He has been fantastic. There is a reason we have been running the ball as well as we have, and he is a substantial part of it... He's not Rueben Brown yet, but he is progressing very well considering he has only been in the position for two years.

  • In reply to Viva:

    I would argue Chris Williams has been our second best offensive player this season.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Having 4 or 5 guys on the offense to include in such an argument is a good thing.

  • In reply to Viva:

    As Lovie said, it's a good problem.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    chris williams worked his ass off during the offseason
    he is getting good results from his regimen
    it should be noticed by other players; who need to know what preparetion for the upcoming season.

    as far as carimi goes
    I would not rush him back if you feel he will only give us a slight boost
    he has a history of kneecap problems; dating back to wisc.
    i say make sure he is there at the end of the season
    going into the playoffs close to 100%

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    I'm not saying that Williams is a bad guard. I'm saying that we drafted him at #14 to anchor the tackle position for us, which he is obviously incapable. I think that if Tice thought Williams had the ability to be onthe right or left side, he'd be out there.

    Al, no, I wouldn't call Taylor a bust ,but your example isn't quite the same - both RB and WR are highly coveted skill positions. Tayolor was still able to provide production to his team in a position that was comparable in value. I'd argue that OT is much more valuable position than OG. For example, in the last five years of NFL drafts, there have been 37 tackles drafted in the first two rounds and only 8 guards.

    For being the 14th pick and being drafted as a tackle, Williams has not lived up to his expected value to the Bears. If he turns out to be a spectacular guard, I'll re-evaluate my opinion. But, as of right now, Williams is still a bust in my opinion.

  • Yeh, Forte has turned into a good pass burn for Cutler under pressure, Barber isn't used to the look yet as we say Sunday but that could be fixed in a half day's practice. I want to clarify since I was short in my response I am not saying Carimi vs. LL, I am saying Carimi needs to get his hands into this game as much as possible as he has already lost several games of experience and he is way too valuable to let slip. I don't like the rotation option though for various.. motivation reasons. Second half of this season has ridiculous potential. I can't wait to host the Lions in our house, what a warm welcome they will receive!

  • I totally agree about Biggs. Haugh is weird. Sometimes he seems OK and then other times he seems like a catty bitch. Pompeii might as well be Larry Mayer's brother. Sean Jensen on the Suntimes isn't bad. The columnists are all trying to out clever each other and it just comes out vindictive and lame.

    I'm still pissed about us getting the Lions on a short week (coming off Philly on Monday night) and they are coming off their bye.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I agree on Haugh; it's like a multi-personality thing or some such.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    i notice i try not to read any news print until i read biggs 10 tings'
    he has given me good info; and led me to places that I need study up on.

  • I'm leery off inserting Carimi back in the lineup full-time, even though I do believe he is the future anchor of this unit. The O-line is finally starting to click, so unless Tice is absolutely certain putting him back in is the best thing, I say hold-off. Carimi's good though . . . tough call.

  • With respect to Carimi: I would not rush him back, so if he is not 100% he should not see the field. With that said, I would not adjust my starting line-up to accomdate a rookie while playing for a spot in the playoffs (unless he plays at a level that is well above what you are getting out of the current starters). It's seems a bit absurd. I may rotate him into the mix, but he needs to earn it. (The guys in the huddle I'm sure would concur.

    On Forte: I'm sure Cliff Stein is working the cap numbers as we speak. The 5/50/25 sounds justifiable, but that number will certainly create roster holes elsewhere. Forte's ability and character make this a very difficult decision. He is a good man, and has earned every penny he is going to get, but it is a huge hit to the cap for that position. Fucking Panthers!

  • In reply to Viva:

    I think Forte may sign for less than that, although as I've been saying since preseason I think they should have just paid him.

    Hopefully Matt was smart enough to get an insurance policy in the event serious injury prevents him from seeing his giant payday.

  • Jeff, it is "edition" methinks, not addition. Or am I missing something?

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    Um, Hi. *shuffles nervously at the lectern, coughs before addressing the microphone*

    British Bears Fanatic here (also a Liverpool FC nut) - to paraphrase the great Monty Python - is this the right thread for a delurk?

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

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    In reply to gpldan:

    Good one. I think, as a nation, our liking of Python is surgically implanted at birth - by machines that go ping, obviously.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Welcome cat man.

    We keep stacking pringles
    Makes my tubular dingle tingle
    Nick Reed don't mingle; he be Kris Kringle
    Pep on one leg will make you tinkle
    or pop fear bones
    Hear those Garza moanes
    DJ Moore sets the tone
    Omellet gives me crohns.
    We're back on track at 4 and 3.
    Smoke trees till your eyes bleed.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Ceist amhain Daithi, mas e do thoile - is tusa Sasanach? Is ainm duit an-Eireanach ....

    Is maith liom Python ar fad go freisin.

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    In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Yup, Northern Irish/British. And Gaelic can be as British as Welsh IMHO. Its a silly thing the way the language is viewed by some peeps.

  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Hey there, whatever your handle is (with all those fancy european accents above the strange words - we are just a simple folk here).

    Welcome... with one necessary request. A cat? As your avatar? On a football blog?

    Uhhhh... unless that cat's name is butkus and kills dogs 5X its size on a regular basis...uhhhh. Never mind I know Johnny likes it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah, it's weird, i'm a cat guy too.

  • that is (really) weird... but we love you anyway.

    See DOM, there's hope yet.

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    He's actually my facebook avatar. He's called Mithras, he's 11, he can reach and open door handles, and he'll sit on you and force you to fondle him. Him and and his brother are my substitute children.

    Been a Bears follower since '84 or so (back when I was a wee'un of nine - it was the fault of both Sweetness (PBUH) and The Fridge), back when there was the first rush of enthusiasm for the NFL in the UK. Decided to get serious about Da Bears about 5 years ago as I needed to get a distraction from a certain Glazier-owned team from Manchester (curse them).

    I watch every game, either via dodgy-web-streaming, torrents or on ESPN UK/Channel 4 (who show the SNF/MNF games live over here). And yes, I think Martz is a fucking idiot. My cat could do a better job than him, as evidenced by the shambolic last quarter at the weekend (I was too poor this year to go to the game, but one day I'd go to Soldier Field).

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Welcome DOM.

    To be completely honest, my wife had a 16 year old tabby that I really liked (first cat ever). Was sad when we had to put him down, but in general I like dogs a helluvalot more. Have two english Bull Terrorists now. Some days I wish I had a fucking cat instead. They are monsters.

    To yours (and johnny's) credit:

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    you are hired....some of us old schoolers are still not ashamed of winning rugby style games when we need to

    martz will be o.k.
    he is like a petulant child thast just learned how to wax his carrot
    he knows he should run when we catch him at it
    but, he just can't help himself

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Gaelic accents MB. Very Gaelic. They're called fadas, and my keyboard doesn't do fadas. Dáithí Ó Mórdha is Irish for David Moore so one is very curious as to why somebody would describe themselves as British but write their name as Gaeilge? Curiouser and curiouser as Mithras, the Roman Sun God might say.

    We do have a motley bunch on here. Failte Romhat. 'Welcome' in Yank.

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    In reply to IrishSweetness:

    IrishSweetness, I'm originally from Northern Ireland, although I've lived in England now for 15-odd years.

    Its perfectly possible to be British and Irish. :D

    And Gaelic is of course spoken widely in Scotland too. That and I'm a bit paranoid about Facebook too. :p

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Curiosity sated. I thank you sir, and that looks like a lovely cat.
    Some Norn Iron humour will be most welcome on these pages, ad look, I'm already putting the 'u's back in where they belong. Ha.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Liverpooooool.... Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiverpool. Hold your head up high!

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    In reply to NewBearInTown:

    You'd never find that many Scum fans in a pub in Manchester. Now Kent or Bangkok on the other hand.... :p

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Good God, Carlyle's scouse accent is terrible. I can do a better accent than that and I'm Irish.

    All hail King Kenny.

  • Our Boy Roy has been silenced.

    However, I think he would grade out LL at RT pretty well. Louis is a tackle in a guard's body, and Williams is a guard in a tackles body. Makes perfect sense. For the Bears.

    Point being: Let Carmini work his way into the lineup. Make him outplay LL for the RT job in practice, don't hand it to him. Spencer seems okay at RG. Garza finally has a posse he can ride with, let's not keep dicking it around.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    + a whole lot.

    Not another fucking grouping please. If it ain't broke...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If and when Carimi earns his spot, I think LL will slide back to RG and Spencer will hit the sideline.

  • In reply to Viva:

    not after the multiple blocks springing forte for hundreds of yards and Barber for TD's. Spencer is in that lineup to stay my friend. he has been making too many visible plays.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    maybe he should take some reps on the left side as well in practice;
    and be a stud, who will not miss a step when someone needs to sit a spell

  • In reply to gpldan:

    How about we play him where his drafting suggests he plays ... starting left tackle ... and let Webb work his way into the lineup? How's about them apples?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He disappeared on twitter too. Something is up.

  • How 'bout Dem Ravens?

    Any Given Sunday.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that game was bizzar. It's like they swapped defenses. Weird.

    btw, flacco is NOT J.Montana or Tom Brady. Dbag.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not even sure that Flacco is Trent Dilfer at this point.
    And boy did he suck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've come to the very same conclusion MB. He was propped up by a top defense, running game and receivers. He doth suck.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    I've just watched that. That's two hours of my life I'll never get back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Who saw that coming? And the Queefs shutting out the Raiders ?

  • With Respect to Forte:

    #1 Pay him a 10M bonus this year against this year's salary cap.

    #2 I'm for a new 7M/year 4 year deal with 5M signing bonus. Plus a 2M/year Pro-Bowl bonus each year.

    Reward the man for what he has done under the current contract. Pay him fairly with a bonus structure that is resonable for both sides and allows the front office to accquire/retain high quality performers.

  • In reply to MichBearFan:

    that makes way too much sense mainge, except for the Pro Bowl part. He will want 9 mil a year but you are dead on about the bonus this year and how it would ease the pain of the new contract. Jerry could make it all better by doing that while minimizing the damage to cap space in the future thus allowing us to continue to build the roster.

    JERRY YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE listen to MichBearFan.

  • In reply to MichBearFan:

    The bye week is the perfect time to make this happen...

  • Blogfather -

    Asking again: Can we also have live chat?

  • What about replacing Garza with Spencer? I guess it depends on which hand Spencer broke. I see Garza getting pushed around too much. It seems odd that we could wind up with one of the youngest O lines in the league.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    except for that safety Garza has been doing pretty good especially with pass protection. Don't fuck with the line. Spot duty for the FNG and keep building the line through the draft with a 1st for Center and a 3rd rounder for a backup LG. Use a 2nd on the next urlacher or the next Briggs (Man Ti Teo).

    Like Cutty said:

    It's not that hard.

  • Vontaze Burfict

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    him too.

    It's not that hard. We don't need to piss away picks on QB's, WR's, Tightends. We need OL, Bad motherfucking prison style linebackers and maybe a big corner. Pick up a vet safety in FA, a WR and a DL.


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can you imagine Burfict and VIP on the Swole on the same field? Nate Burleson would become this generation's Darryl Stingley.

  • In reply to gpldan:


    If VIP could fucking cover I'd like him a whole lot more. He can pretty easily stop cheapshoting any time he decides he doesn't want everyone to think he's gangster, and the best way to prove it is to try and make himself a fucking paraplegic on every play.

    Problem is they might end up shooting each other in the lockerroom (that’s just below the heart for those of you non-medical folk out there)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    wow, I just reread that and the whole second paragraph was so badly written I didn't even know what I meant.

    Here is the understandable cliffnotes version:

    He's trying to prove he's a gangster... he thinks cheapshots are the best way to do that... and he almost kills himself on every tackle.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Yeah, isn't that weird how that turns out?

    Carimi - 23yrs old
    Webb 23
    Louis 26
    C. Williams 26
    Spencer 29
    Garza 32

    IF they can keep it up, paving the way for 100 yd rushing games and about 3 sks per game, our Oline future is looking very bright. The biggest question mark in my mind is Webb...if he pans out, man oh man, that saves us A LOT of stress, money, and high draft picks...

    I would still want to draft a true center though. We need the next Kreutz and Urlacher and Peanut in the next draft.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Spencer was one of the worst centers in the NFL.

  • I say work Carimi in with spot duty.

    "If it ain't broke...."

  • Jeff, I think just about evra Bears fan knows our offense is pretty much one dimensional. That works until our opponent makes their halftime adjustments. Our boys aren't going to the promised land until they figure out how to incorporate an effective passing attack into our game plan. If this happens then we can beat any team out there.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Bennett is back after the bye week. All he does is catch everything thrown at him.

    I guarantee they realize they need to be able to counter the 2nd half stuff the Bucs did. A little game planning and Bennett will help negate that.

    Trac, your post is in serious danger of being optimistic. Bear Down.

  • Ha. I'm optimistic when there's reason to be.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Well get ready because we're making a run at the dance. Forte doing the stuff of legends. Young O-Line starting to work. Venus Flytrap coming back after the bye. Pringles and Conte with VIP in reserve. Lot's to optimistic about. Let's not forget:

    Raiders don't have a QB
    Lions don't have any RB's and may not have a QB for a week or two.
    Rivers playing like shit.
    Tebow led Broncos
    The shit show that is the Chiefs
    The Vikings with a rookie at QB
    The Hapless Seahawks

    WHILE WE HIT OUR STRIDE???????????

    I'm talking 7-2 or 8-1 to head into the playoffs. AS I PREDICTED!!!!!

  • I have to give you props for the missed gould kick at the very least johnny.

    If we go 11 and fucking 5 I will have to fly out and buy you dinner along with Viva. Damn it... I mean fuck yeah... I mean shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And I'll break those damn props with a fucking sledgehammer. Robbie is the man!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    hahahahha... yes he is, but you have to give it up to johnny for the call.

    I saw it on my phone while on the road and though... damn it, one of those motherfuckers jinxed him!

    I didn't remember it was johnny at the time.

  • Tebow provided the Broncs with a miraculous comeback on Sunday.

    The Chiefs tore the Raiders apart, and have a very reasonable defence by the looks of it.

    The Seahawks have the #1 run defense in the NFL.

    The Viking Rookie came within a score of the best team in the NFL.

    Palmer looked good in snatches for the Raiders. I watched that game. He'll be a lot better once he's familiarised himself with the playbook, but the zip is back in that arm for sure.

    I don't think we get to start swinging our dicks because we beat the Vikings and Bucs. We need to beat the Lions and Packers, and even at that we have to be on our best behaviour.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I quote Da Coach: "You pass to to earn the priviledge of running the football."

  • I like the if it ain't broke line of thought for this year without a doubt, but there are two odd men out IN THE LONG RUN in my mind. Garza and spencer.

    If we can work BJ back in there, and personally I'd like to see him end up on the blindside, and then get web to feel comfortable in the interior to use his athleticism, we'd end up with a pretty damn decent and very young oline. To which, whomever replaces that fuckwhit jerry, can add depth at center and tackle.

    Then focus on please jesus getting a real live 'nother couple safeties (conte’s done ok, but not ready to anoint him anything). My god, we may not be as brokedown on the oline in the long run as we thought. Hallelujah and praise †ebus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can't believe my eyes.

    Just kidding, buddy.

  • In reply to Viva:

    I know. Like I said above, I might be buying you that dinner after all. And I will be doing so with a huge smile on my face.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, I'm not in any way suggesting we settle. We need someone who knows what they're doing continuing to build that oline with 1s and 2s from the draft and maybe a sprinkle of FAs as well.

    Talk to me about safety now Viva.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Looks like #16 was right all along...

    We need safeties,lol!Bear down.Go Bears!lol!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Remember the first line (which was very good) JA built (J. Tait, Rueben Brown, Olin, Garza, and F. Miller) was predominately built to win immediately, and therfore built through FA (Olin was already on the team). The line we have now is a combo of draft picks and FA's. Either formula works, but I like where we're at with this group.

    No doubt we have a hole at the Safety position. We will always have a hole somewhere...(every team does, it is a financial inevitability). Letting D. Manning walk was a mistake, I think he was finally grasping the position...

  • In reply to Viva:

    Agree 100% on the manning thing... as I mentioned a few threads ago. He broke his leg last week, but that's obviously situational. Just as we had things solid back there for once, we (JA) let’s manning walk for MORE than we paid fucking VIP Cheapshot (his new nickname… or VIP Wheelchair).

    I would love to have manning at SS and go out and get a real 'franchise' FS for lots of money next year (then use Conte and pringles in rotation till they learn the position and get comfortable). We need that perennial field general back there. Like Mike Brown, but (and this greatly pains me to say out loud) without the injury concerns. FS is probably thee most important position on D in my mind (yes, yes... we'll need to replace lach soon, but not for at least another year – vontaze burfict please).

    You're also forgetting one thing Viva. Depth. We need at least a real starting center in the mix next year (can come from draft or FA) and at least another G and T. Move BJ over to LT and move web inside... can he play center? Man if we'd have gotten pouncy's bro this year.... and/or Franklin and moffitt.

    Hey Corm, can you pls send an email to tice about who you want from the Badgers in the draft next year?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, he's only a junior, but center Peter Konz looks like he could be a great pro. He's missed a few games each year with injuries, but he's an athletic center who can pull.
    I'm still pissed from that Badger loss. Wisconsin is the "better" team by far on paper, but they had a ton of mistakes. Michigan St. is like the Bears of college football. They play great D and create turnovers, and they have good special teams. They win ugly often.

  • It looks like the Ravens and Bolts cost quite a few bloggers their picks over the weekend. Who wouldda thunk the Jags could have out right won the game?


    Bubble Teams-Doc, Irish

    Bubble Teams-Irish, Willie's Gault

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Indy laying down and taking their beating like a wino in the alley in a Clockwork Orange skewed the shit of FF this week. Darren fucking Sproles knocking down, what? 32 FFP?

    Give me a break.

    Fuck you Indy. Pussies. In front of your home crowd.

    If the Bears or Giants or Jets pulled a Bobby Knight rape like that, there would have been a riot by the fans on the field.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1. LOL.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dirty tankers!

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    THe Fudgies screwed me. Truly good for nothing

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Bubble teams .. .hear that Doc, Willie ? Who half-inched Demarco Murray by the way?

  • to shift gears, did you notice how smokin hot the T-Bucs cheerleaders were ?

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That hot.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My god... there is no doubt in my mind I'm a boobies man. Hail boobies!

    Talk about a fucking coitus interuptus moment... at a fucking bears / bucs game, some immense dbag scoots by in a fucking dolphins jersey... and not just any dolphins jersey, but a fucking MARINO dolphins jersey no less.

    Jesus H christo... what is this world coming to GP?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I saw that. He probably bought it on sale at Harrods. Or maybe behind it in the dumpster, along with Beckham national team jerseys.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    With my cock in a guillotine I'll guarantee he bought that in 1984.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    She looks a lot like my ex-fiance with a little younger, prettier face.

  • Don't agree with ya journey. Would you call Robert Gallery a bust too? Same deal with him. If Williams pans out as a good guard, it's a good pick. Overpaid on his first contract but still a good pick.

  • Commentor's 3-0 Perfect Picks

    TheFifth, Ufficio, BigDaddy

    Ok boys, that's all the announcement's for the day.

  • Yes Guiness, Yes I did.

  • Right on Jeff. I've been saying for years that Biggs is the only beat writer worth his salt (a few years ago Crist was a nearby second, but he fell off hard around '09). Nobody else is even close, although I do think his replacement at the Sun-Times, Sean Jensen, is actually pretty good.

    All the rest have their moments at times: Pompei when he sticks to film, Haugh very rarely these days, and McClure has some nice player features, but overall the Trib is grating. LeGere at the Herald is decent reporting-wise but not that insightful. Dickerson injects way too much unsubstantiated football "logic" in his articles, and Wright does put together good ESPN stats analysis pieces of interest but is marginal as a beat writer. Mullins is actually okay but his style and flow is really more like a talk show host and less like a beat writer. The rest of the CST staff besides Jensen are basically completely un-noteworthy. Did I miss anybody? Well, Mayer is... pretty much what you expect. I like his Chalk Talk pieces though, since he seems to get better access to players' opinions, and his historical fact organization is much better than his peers.

    But Biggs has always been the best, dating back to his CST Inside the Bears days through to his current Trib/NFP posts. He's also been among the most fair, and the guy is (mostly) humble when it comes to his (relative lack of) football knowledge. I suspect this isn't wholly coincidence...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I agree on Biggs. Every Monday I podcast the 2nd hour of Mully and Hanley on the Score to hear what Biggs has to say.
    I still like Doug and OB on Sunday nights for the entertainment value, but they've almost become caricatures of themselves. Even after a win, they can be too negative. Even the callers try to sound like they have 10 blood vessels in their heads that are about to burst.

  • I'd like to send out an "Atta Boy!" out to Roberto Garza. Unspoken hero in my opinion.

    He has stepped into a position he had never played throughout his entire football career and he's done it well! He has become quite a leader and there is no question that he has been an integral part of our patchwork line's recent success both run blocking and in pass protection.

    The fact that his name has come up as little as it has thus far in the season speaks volumes for his performance in his new role.

    Atta Boy Bobbie!


  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:


  • Does anyone know where Orlando Pace is these days? I just wanted to send him a fck you card.

  • Pace owns "Big O's Ltd" in his home town of Sandusky, Ohio. It is a sports bar located on W. Perkins Avenue. Pace likes to make appearances at his restaurant, .occasionally signing autographs for his hometown fans. He also owns several homes in McArthur Park in Sandusky that he rents out to low income families. He currently resides in St. Peters, Missouri.

    Pace signed a three-year $15 million deal (the guaranteed portion is $6.1 million), with the Chicago Bears on April 2, 2009. He didn't make it through the year, only going 11 games and sucking in most of them.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GPL beat me to the wikipedia entry.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Or did you write it?!?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No, it's from Wiki

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I know - I googled him too and got the verbatim paragraph that you did.
    Or did I.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Either way, Sac is gonna go beat his ass and get our money back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I got scared there for a minute.

    Thought that GP was either an Orlando Pace stalker, or president of his fan club.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Bitch better get in line!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You can totally re-write Wiki pages. I modified one a while back.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

  • I think he's still pulling wide on a sweep we ran two years ago the fat fuck.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    No, he just takes really looooooong strides.

    Poor Orlando. One of the greatest LTs of all time and you make the mistake of landing with the Chicago Bears in a down year and way past the time you should have retired.

    Sounds like he is doing well in his retirement though. I like hearing that guys continue to do charitable works even after they are out of the spotlight.

  • Daithi the Cat lovin Limey:

    Did you like the Bucs? Want to keep them over there? I think England has kind of a history with pirates and seafaring vessels, what with that whole Trafalgar thing - so you can keep the name and colors. Or, you know, change it to the Union Jackoffs. That would be cool, too.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Cheerleaders stay here, though.

    Googling the term "British hottie" gets me this list:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wouldn't kick Elizabeth Hurley out of my bed for eating crackers!

  • In reply to MaddBearfan:

    I would. Scrape that muck off her face and have a butchers at the old boat race at five in the morning. Rough as a badger's arse.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    I think the Bucs can go fuck themselves. They're hated over here, mostly due to their ownership (the other team those Ginger cunts own is the most widely despised in the country) - I doubt that they could make a go of it at all.

    To be honest, I don't think London is cut out for a franchise. Not least of all because it seems wrong somehow. We like the NFL because of the tradition and history (which rules the Bucs out), and that its something other than *our* football.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Even with the creamscile jerseys? And the Bucs have history. Kinda. Leroy Selmon. And Chucky's Super Bowl win.

    Maybe if the Concorde still flew. I remember when Phil Collins took it during Live Aid to play at both shows. Those were the days.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    I still think they'd probably not have much support, unless they somehow subcontracted out franchises to joint ventures with Premiership Rugby or Football clubs.

    Most people in the UK who follow the NFL support teams that have a proper (heh) history stretching back to the 60s at least. Bears, 49ers, Steelers, Giants, Redskins, even the bloody Cheeseheads.

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    In reply to gpldan:

    P.S. gpldan, I've a bone to pick with you.

    I'm not English (even though I live there), so I ain't a Limey. :D

    You can buy me a pint to make amends, if I ever get to your side of the Pond.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    Ginger cunts

    hee hee

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    In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd like to apologise to Malcom Glazier.
    He is not, as I pointed out earlier, a "ginger cunt".
    He is in fact, a shortarsed neckbearded ginger cunt.

    Anyway, the time delay (5-8 hours) would be a killer. Any sort of evening game would kick off at 11pm UK time, and I doubt in the long run it would be viable.

    Perhaps what they *could* do, instead of pie-in-the-sky schemes about expansion, is institute a reserve league with European fixtures, or perhaps try and expand the NCAA over to the UK and Europe.

    But really, anything other than a few games here and then over next decade or so is pushing it.

  • In reply to Dáithí Ó Mórdha:

    You can tell Bucs fans have been football fans for a maximum of nine years because they were a joke team the last time the Bears were in London. Maybe it's their history that attracts them - they have been around since 1976 after all. It was great having them in the NFC Central with the Lions. Four wins as soon as the schedule came out. Hwah.

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    In reply to IrishSweetness:


  • I'm sorry but I never have been a fan of this guy. Future hall of famer but man I wish he had of learned to just shut his pie hole.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Roy Williams and TO on the Bears. That would be great.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think Roy is going to be a decent addition by the time the season ends. Guys like that are weird. Their egos are so big that they can literally boost their own confidence level to the point that it improves their play on the field. As Roy's confidence grows he will make more and more plays on the field. Getting that first couple of catches is huge for Roy as it pretty much ensures that he will perform at a higher level the rest of the game.

    He has been great in the blocking game too. People talk a lot of shit in Dallas and here but he really hasn't done anything here to deserve all of the negativity. huge first down , TD catch and block on Forte's long runs.

  • The thing about Roy... he's playing great considering the contract he got. He's on a one year deal worth, I believe, less than $1 million.

    The problem is that Martz made him sound like an elite #1 reciever, and he's not. But we aren't paying him like a #1 reciever. So if you ignore the Martz hype and focus on the value for the contract, he's a good buy.

    Question is... if Brandon Marshall comes our way (or we get a nice first round option in the draft) who is first in line to be cut? Hurd is the ST guy, Hester is Hester, Sanzenbacher is playing awefully good for an early exit, Bennett is too valuable on ST and catching the third down balls... that leaves Knox and Williams.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    Sanzenbacher or Knox. Has to be a smurf.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I don't think there is any way that we would sign RW for another year, unless he turns into Jerry Rice in the next 7 games. Knox is valuable in his own right on ST and still has a bigger upside than Roy on offense.
    I wanted to donkey punch Williams for bobbling the ball five times before coming down with it this week, while the Buc defenders got ready to hit him in the kidneys.
    The TD was nice, but jesus, Roy, make an easy catch look easy every once in awhile.

  • Don't forget Sam Hurd, he's a beautiful looking receiver if we give him his go. In a totally non-sexual sense.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    His blocking has been a pleasant surprise to me.

  • Vikes say Buh-Bye to Berrian...I can't say 1'm surprised. He really hadn't done much since leaving the Bears.

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    +1 for Angelo. There I said it.

  • and this is nice:

    Shouldn't he be on the packers?

  • damn, homie is my age:

    Got to give it up to him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I bet Willie Gault could outrun him in the 40/60 and 100.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I would hope so... he's willie fucking gault!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Willie would STILL outrun him ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have a feeling that TO will eventually succeed at his suicide attempts. he is a fragile person....

  • hee hee

  • you were right track... I think the ones I posted last thread were last week's.

    Here is this week's... we're up 4 to #10:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow, hard to believe an ESPN power ranking has 3 NFC-N teams before a single NFC-E team...

    Also MB30, I think the one you posted was from even before last week because last week's rankings are shown in parentheses and ATL/TB are definitely not 7 and 8...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    nope. see his mea culpa below mike.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, after I posted this I realized it must've been the PK "fine fifteen" you were bitching about.

    Anyway the ESPN poll-based power ranking seems to be the highest for the Bears around the net -- by a good bit. Like I said though, I'm still almost shocked they seem to fairly assess the NFC North as compared to the East.

  • I still think you start Carimi if he's 100%. Not sure who gets moved where though..maybe.. I admit.. if no one can move that is why he can't start... Carimi put D-linemen on their buhts 10 times in 1.5 games his physicality can absolutely not sit the sideline. He also can't afford to get lost in draft magic as a sideline rookie due to inattention with lack of starting.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    I never would have thought we'd have this problem this year - too many good o-linemen and not enough spots to put them. (Is it too soon for another +1 for Angelo?)

  • In reply to Jokey:

    you stop that RIGHT now damn it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    (please forward all oline +1s to: MTice. Halas Hall, chicago IL, USA)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If we're going to crap on his head for each mistake, we ought to toss a beer his way when he does right.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    And Tice gets too much credit. Look at the Bucs play their 3rd center - would our line do as well (after an initial sucky drive)? Also see the Packers last year, who moved a d-lineman to o-line, they were so depleted. Did their coach get all the love Tice gets? I don't see Tice doing much better than those other coaches.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Jokey. I would have volunteered mike fucking martz’ name in order to avoid giving Jerry angelo anything but a grand old FUCK YOU.

    See where I’m going with this? Do you see it?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You crack me up.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I do my best viva.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    I think GB are running backup tackles at both ends, the Pittsburgh line will be starting women soon (watch out ladies!) ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I bet rapebburger would love that at center.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    I've just seen enough of the bad to feel (know?) that anything 'brilliant' or 'smart' he does is usually just dumb luck (pun intended – see how I did that?).

    Hence, you know.... the whole GP blind squirrel shirt thing?

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • To get you all warmed up for this friday's bigscreen release of Rum Diaries

  • Python and jon stewart. Not in the same universe, but both very funny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Stewart is like many of the regulars on da blog, very clever and sometimes freakin hilarious,

  • Of all the questions to take, Uncle Larry decided to take one on "Have the Bears won the most games in different countries". Oy vey.

    Yes, the Bears are the only NFL team to win in three different countries: the United States, Canada and England. The 49ers, Patriots, Saints and Giants have also won in England; the Dolphins and Jets have recorded victories in Canada; and the Cardinals won the only contest in Mexico.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I'm telling you, Trac, he has to make these questions up himself. There's no other explanation.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    And the Steelers are the only NFL team to win a game in Ireland. And that was because tehy're the only NFL team other than the Bears to play there, not because our hurlers were really good at gridiron.

  • Would Belichick sign Forte for 5/50/25?

    Would Ozzie?

  • In reply to Viva:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    but to your point viva, we don't have anything even remotely close to Belickick or ozzie... we have jerry angelo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Angelo's gonna franchise him. No way he breaks open the war chest when he can ride it out for another year.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:


  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    that is a cryin' shame
    and it is also lame
    to be big in the board room
    you gotta avoid doing the right thing
    jerry prefers a limited fan base

  • I don't really know what this sn.... snoo.... snow stuff is, but for those of you who live where there is some and you have kids... this looks really fun:

  • (Proof of hack to follow)

    I sent him almost the same email, just more in the MB30SD 'tone' if you know what I mean... know what I mean? Know what I mean? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

    "YOU'RE ALMOST CERTAINLY RIGHT. "The Chicago Bears' three losses this year are to Green Bay (7-0), New Orleans (5-2) and Detroit (5-2). They have played two teams with the same record as they have (Atlanta and Tampa Bay) and beat both, crushing Atlanta in the opener and having their way with Tampa in a game whose score ended up closer than the game really was. On what basis do you have those two teams ranked in your top ten and the Bears not ranked at all?''
    -- Mark L., Muscatine, Iowa

    Mark, you and many others are probably right. I had the Bucs too high and the Bears should have been in the Fine Fifteen this week, somewhere. I can't sit here and defend the Bucs so high and Houston and Chicago not in there at all. My mistake.

    Read more:"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Seems he missed the part in his response about being a douche that hates the Bears.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    exactly dave... exactly.

  • I don't know anything about this dude, but the video is pretty funny:

    Sac? Ben?

  • so wait... who's the man again:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, what the hell is a "post-gender society"? I got into an argument with my cousin because he thinks the perfect world would be the Telletubbies with no genders. He is a college professor in English Lit. and poetry. It sounds like hell to me.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    flush it down the drain
    it is just a concept
    tell him to find out who he is
    then see if
    he has the same ideas about "perfection"

    thanks for the videos of Govt. Mule
    Had a memorable time at that Wanee
    Let me know if your freinds will be going to 2012
    They can stop by on thursday and tie die some shirts
    enjoy some wine or whatever
    they went by us on the way in 2010
    we'll meet up some day, somewhere for a show
    i get real flexible in 2 yrs.
    bear down

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    "Perfection" turns into "Dystopia".
    I'm gonna try to make Wanee in the next two years. I just have to be super-organized to leave at that time of year. I'm not a festival type person, but that is one show I'd love to attend.
    Here's a couple videos you might like: 1)Mule and Grace Potter "Gold Dust Woman" 2) Grace Potter rock and roll....end of set jam.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I'd say Thailand is a pretty good example of a post-gender society.

    Irish's quick film reviews:

    I'm in the middle of watching Harrison Bergeron (1995), based on the short story by Vonnegut - where everyone wears mental handicappers to bring down their IQs so everyone can be average. Harrison sticks out like a sore thumb because he continues to get As and disappoints his mother. Not bad
    Harrison to girlfriend : "Anyway, I don't think you're all that stupid." (Girlfriend blushes) "..Thanks ... and I don't think you're all that smart."

    Bullet, starring Mickey Rourke and Tupac (1996) is really quite good. Ted Levine is brilliant in it as his crazy vet brother.

    Apollo 18 : Terrible muck.

    The Expendables (2010): The reverse shot of Stallone's triceps in one scen is hilarious. I wonder who finagled that shot. How many old action stars can you get in one movie? We'll find out in the sequel, I guess ....

    Arena (2011) : Samuel L Jackson will do ANYTHING for money. POS.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    jesus no idea corm... i was more shocked that that absolute anoying fat pig could land a somewhat attractive lipstick lezzi as a partner. Money talks I guess.

  • If I read Maureen Dowd in the New York Times correctly and I think I do -

    Steve Jobs should be coaching the Bears.

    Any chance of a Black Ring thing happening?

    Bye week...

    Steve Jobs coaches Bears.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    Steve Jobs : Okay girls, forget your playbooks, we're trying something different this week?

    Disgruntled Urlacher : What's that coach?

    Steve Jobs : Astral projection. I want you guys to move that ball with your minds. We're not even taking the field.

    Disgruntled Urlacher : But Coach ...


    (Jobs eyeballs Urlacher, every vein in his head pumping)

    Disgruntled Urlacher : But Coach ... I was ....

    Steve Jobs : You're cut .... you hear me ... you fucking loser ... YOU'RE CUT!!

    Cutler : Jeez coach, he's our ...

    Steve Jobs SHUT THE FUCK UP ! YOU'RE CUT TOO .... YOU ASSHOLE .. .DON'T YOU REALISE WHOSE TEAM THIS IS ? DON'T YOU KNOW WHO I AM?? I'M STEVE JOBS, MAN ... Steve Jobs ... you get it ... capiche ?

    Forte: This is crazy man ....

    Steve Jobs : You're fired too Tarzan! In fact you're all fired....NOW GET OUT !! EVERYBODY!! OUT !!

    (The Bears all get fired and leave. Steve sits down and begins to meditate on beating the Eagles Monday night all on his own. "I'm so rone-ry ...")

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    you spelled realize wrong

    (yes, yes... I know... it was a joke. We're so international here now!)

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Astral Projection would always be offsides.


  • In reply to gpldan:

    Got me there GP.

  • Forget the discussion -

    I just found Ambien bottle in the headboard.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    hilarious... nice to have you back jack.

  • Say goodnight Gracie.

  • In reply to Jack Lacan:

    Goodnight Gracie.

  • Speaking of Pompeii, he actually thought our Dline got pressure, and his assessement has me questioning my sanity. So, I'll post his "Grade" verbatum.

    "It may not have been evident to the naked eye.

    It may not have been evident on the stat sheet, which showed only one sack.

    But it was evident after a careful video review.

    Pressure on Bucs quarterback Josh Freeman forced two of the interceptions. On Lance Briggs' third-quarter interception, blitzing safety Chris Harris and defensive tackle Amobi Okoye were closing in on the QB. And on D.J. Moore's game-cinching pickoff, Julius Peppers was within inches of Freeman when he made an ill-advised throw.

    What's more, the Bears had consistent pressure on Freeman throughout the game, often causing him to throw quickly even when he didn't have to. They pressured Freeman on 41 percent of his throws.

    It's unfortunate they couldn't turn more of the pressures into sacks, but the pressures were a hidden factor in why the Bears won.

    Here is what else we learned upon further review.

    Grading key: Grades are between 0 and 10 with 0 being complete failure and 10 being perfect.

    Defensive line; Grade: 8.5
    It would have been a dominant performance by the line but for the absence of finishing plays.

    As was the case against the Vikings, virtually every defensive lineman who suited up joined in the fun. The player who caused the most problems was Peppers. The Bucs tried to block him with left tackle Donald Penn one-on-one for most of the game, and Peppers made them pay.

    Peppers had six pressures. Henry Melton had three. Israel Idonije and Stephen Paea had two apiece. Okoye had one, as well as the team's only sack. Those plays helped offset Okoye's neutral zone infraction and offside penalty within three first-quarter snaps."

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Yes, Pompei is actually correct. This is the one thing he does well, which other beat writers don't do -- he goes back to the film and does an honest critical assessment. From a fan's perspective mind you, not the eye of an NFL insider, but still it is more than most sportswriters (or for that matter former player/coach-analysts) do.

    When I watched the game I saw the pressure getting home, but not landing -- particularly on the game's critical plays. Watching the DL closely was a sight to see... especially Peppers, gimped and all.

    BTW, this is also why I said earlier that Pompei is at his best when he goes to the film. Once he starts playing armchair psychologist though, it rapidly goes downhill and sometimes off the reservation entirely (c.f. the Cutler leadership rant).

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    And what he doesn't mention is that our dline has been taking it's toll on opposing o-line starters as well. I think they have benched 4 starters in the last 3 games... my math could be off there though.

  • What must Peppers achieve in the last few years of his career to have a legit shot at the HOF?


  • In reply to gpldan:

    He must not have a "pouty face" or a "bad demeanor". He can't be a "whiner" or a "quitter".

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well he is only at 93 sacks. Dent just now made it in with 137, so Id guess between 40 - 60 more sacks is about what it would take.

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