Young Bear, Old Bear Will Influence Outcome Sunday

Young Bear, Old Bear Will Influence Outcome Sunday

I was impressed by many newish Chicago Bears Sunday.  Adam Podlesh (who is not only newish but also Jewish) returned some pop to the punt game.  Nick Reed looked like a real contributor on the edge.  Chris Spencer played with a burst off the line of scrimmage after replacing injured Lance Louis.  Roy Williams delivered exactly the kind of afternoon I expect from him all year long: a couple catches, a couple first downs.

But it was Henry Melton who stole the show Sunday for the Bears, dominating the interior of the Falcons offensive line in a manner reminiscent of the best Tommie Harris had to offer in the middle of the last decade.  He was not just disruptive, taking up blockers and freeing the linebackers to make plays in space.  He was also suffocating the pocket, hitting Matt Ryan on seemingly every play while admitting he "left a few sacks out there."  Melton's success, even after one game, seems to be another feather in LoveRod cap.  This program knows how to develop defensive linemen.

Olin Kreutz turned down more money from the Miami Dolphins heading into the 2002 season.  He was not yet twenty-five years old and was already being received as one of the best centers in the league.  In that moment, with that decision, Kreutz cemented his legacy in the hearts of Bears fans across the country.  Not only had he honored the Bears organization with his loyalty but he had also spurned Dave Wannstedt, the man some of us (me) believe is actually the mustachioed off-spring of the antichrist.  Kreutz would go on to endear himself to Bears faithful with brilliant play on the field and ridiculous incidents at gun ranges.

But Olin's play declined as the aging veterans brought in to bring the Bears to the Super Bowl (Miller, Brown, Tait) left out the side door.  Now he's moved on to New Orleans for far less than the Bears offered him to return to Halas Hall.  He was underwhelming against the Green Bay Packers on opening night and now will line up opposite Melton.  The old Bear meets the young Bear in a matchup that might very well define the contest.  For the first time in my life I will be rooting for Olin Kreutz to be planted on his back, driven towards the quarterback and embarrassed on a Sunday.  Because when an old Bear puts on somebody's else's laundry, he has to wait till retirement for to revisit his term of endearment.

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  • I wish Olin good luck for 15 games this season. Next week ain't one of them.

    I want Melton in the pro-bowl at the end of this season. Let's do this.

    FIRST in the division, FIRST in the conference, FIRST in the NFL.

  • Jeff, that was one of your best pieces ever. Seriously, you should do that more often.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:


  • Awesome post. So that is 20 games for peppers in a Bears uniform? How many plays has he taken off? zero
    I'm pretty sure Olin won't be able to get any push in the run game, on the other hand, I could see him giving HM troubles all day against the pass.

  • In reply to EnderWiggin:

    At least we know their center will be knocked five yards into the backfield on every play. I'm trying to build a case for backing the Bears this week.


    1. Center will be manhandled.
    2. Lance Moore and Colston out.
    3. 7 in coverage should make it difficult for Brees, especially with VIP superpimp flyguy waiting in the seams.
    4. Do the Saints even have linebackers?
    5. We always beat the Saints and we should be better on a faster surface.
    6. Barbarian should be back.
    6. Brian Urlacher.


    1. No RW.
    2. No Lance Louis.
    3. J'Marcus Webb.
    4. Gabe Carimi.
    5. Chris Spencer.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Okay, so I can't count to 7. Are ye feelin' big?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Spencer graded out quite well by every source I've read versus the Falcons, Irish, and Gabe is a rookie RT who was going up against a pretty decent pass-rusher and played pretty damn well. The OL only gave up three sacks, the other two were on Jay.
    So don't jump off a ledge over Louis sitting out a game. Sheesh.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Where are you finding Bears OL grades at?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    By Your Boy Roy -


    There are usually others, if you feel like googling them. I also see blurbs on Twitter from the beat writers, etc, and seldom does Tice' post-game grading not come out later in the week.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Not OL grade per se, but:

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Good stuff Mike, keep it coming.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Missing a starter is missing a starter Mike. If you want to talk about grades, Spencer was rated the 27th best/worst center in the NFL. I don't know what he's like as a run-blocker, but his pass pro has not historically been legendary. I just hope we run it a whole lot more against the Saints. Good for everybody.

  • Melton hit Matt Ryan seven times on Sunday. They say he's a lean 292. Wow.

    Spencer is starting Sunday? With Webb and Carimi we'd better be thinking about running the ball a whole lot because there won't be much pass blocking going on. With RW likely out, and with Barber back (hopefully) we need to keep that Saints offense offense off the field and control the clock - just run it as much as we can. Double TE sets all day Mr. Martz, and then get those play-action bootlegs happening and hitting Davis, Spaeth, Barber and Forte in the flats.

    From the Trib comments .....

    shan21 at 11:49 PM September 12, 2011

    i luv going to packers game, girls go crazy for me offer me ***. i dont know how many baby mama i got, well all my son's are here today posting bad comment against bears!

  • Great Post, Jefe. Can't wait.

  • Is it Sunday yet?

  • His sense of humor TOOOOOTALLY makes up for it though:

  • i just got caught up the post's and some trib evaluation
    I like that we line up the tight ends together to create space on the said that there was about 13ft of 500lbs coming downhill....who is stepping in front of that.....

    i liked all i read bout clutts

    I am giving the coaching staff some leeway this year
    even though they did not get alot of time to work pre season this year it seems they are building a team that can play effectively for more than one,
    i will go along with the reasoning about where to play the Spider Webb.....
    He has a tough matchup these first few games and will gain some good experience....hopefully he will execute well and apply what he learns in wk 1 against the pack, det. vik. so that in game 2 he shows greater dominance at his position.... if he does the coaches confidence will be correct; we should know alot about how quickly he learns...and we can only hope for his continued progress; if he is sincere about his committment; he has upside and i am sure jay is keeping an eye out for his man a bit more because of his inexperience

    I heard cow herd say today his wife is from chicago and he is ready to climb on board.....
    with that mouth behind us we might shed the pig with lipstick image

    who cares what they think about us....i am just happy that the hard work is returning dividends for the players'....
    it inspires thoughts for multiple super bowls due to their dedication to excellence
    keep pressin on chicago

  • Hope everything is OK with Urlacher and has family... prayers go out....,0,2064886.story

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    Doubt things are okay, so be strong Lach, thoughts are with you bro ....

  • TJ you beast!!

    vxmcclure23about 10 hours agoTim Jennings and Brian Urlacher tied for the team lead with 10 tackles after the review. Nine solo tackles for T.J.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    watched the game again last night...really liked the way TJ wrapped up man...a lot of perfect form tackles

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    It's his coverage skills that seemed to be lacking last year, but that was some nice work closing Turner down on the play.

  • Hope Lach can make it back Sunday and that his mother is ok....

  • In reply to RenoBear:

    I'm thinking the bookies know something we don't re Urlacher. Chicago are 12/5 to beat the Saints, no spread. That's 2.4 to 1. Yahoo sports has them a 7 point underdog. Are we really that worse than the Saints, or do they somehow know he's not going to play and that it would be open season on our defense? I'm scratching my head here. We just pantsed the Falcons. The Saints got beaten by the Pack. We're 2.4 to 1 underdogs?

    A dilemma ensues. Case in point ....

    Stake = 300 yoyos.

    4 team accumulator : DET(1/4), NYJ(1/5), BAL(4/11), GB(1/6) yields roughly 710 yoyos return. 410 profit.

    Swap out the bad value Pack for CHI and the return is 2080 yoyos. 1780 profit.

    5 team accumulator : DET/NYJ/CHI/BAL/Throw in the Giants at home to the injured-Bradford Rams and it's a 3000 yoyo return on your 300 stake. 9-1.

    What think you? If one has confidence in the BEars this week, there is money to be made.

    Without the Bears, the 5 timer with (GB/BAL/NYG/NYJ/DET) yields roughly 1023, just over 2-1.

    Doc, what would be the best way to invest 300 allowing for the possibility of a Bears defeat. This question counts as 20% of your overall mark fro the semester.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I know this may seem cold-hearted, but I'm trying to get together cash to buy plane tickets for the family to fly home for Christmas to be with my recently bereaved mother. Get well soon Mrs. Urlacher.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    The Saints have been laying 7 points all week, before any news of Urlacher. The Saints in the Superdome are pretty tough.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    That's easy. Bet college.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Don't watch college brah. I'm leaning CLE, CHI, BAL, DET. Pays like 9-1.

  • I found crown:,0,945274.htmlpage

    GP, that jack guy is SUCH a fucking sackless doofus.

  • Gotta say Ojoye looked lime a nice pick up as well for the D-tackle rotation.

    And as much as i like Kreutz, i want Brees hit on every play

  • In reply to Maxx:

    As much as I like Brees I want Kreutz hit on every play.

  • Okoye* whoops

  • 2.4 to 1 is looking better methinks. Found an interesting comment from a Saints fan over on Canalstreetchronicles on SB Nation (cocky bastards) :

    The way our defense played I have a hard time giving them any type of ranking.

    I think the offense is very good to great, but the defense will give us trouble all year if they don’t get their stuff together. I just wish we had a high motor guy get to the QB on a regular basis. Who do we have that does that? After the way the Saints defense played during the preseason and now in the first game, I’m going reserve ranking judgements until we get two to three games underneath us. I watched a lot of football this weekend and our defensive line must be one of the weakest units out there. I would rank the defense in bottom part of the 2nd tier to the top of the third tier of teams.

    by rustdog74 on Sep 13, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions

    Some comments from Jeff Duncan's film study :

    [Green Bay's offensive and defensive lines dominated their Saints counterparts for most of the night en route to a resounding 42-34 victory.]

    [The Saints rarely were able to harass Aaron Rodgers and the Packers quarterback had a field day against the Saints' overmatched secondary.]

    [Saints played a soft zone on third-and-12 and the Packers ate it up. Somehow the Packers' five receivers beat the Saints' eight cover men.]

    [The Saints burned Green Bay on a third-and-1 by throwing deep out of "heavy" personnel. The Packers had to be thinking run when the Saints employed two tight ends along with fullback Jed Collins and Brees took advantage by play-action faking to Thomas and firing a strike to Meachem, who beat Tramon Williams in single coverage with no deep safety help.]

    [While rookie Mark Ingram started the game he finished wit the fewest snaps of the three backs. This was dictated primarily by the score. The Saints were forced to play a lot of three-receiver sets as they were in catch-up mode. By their standards, the Saints were fairly basic, using only six personnel groupings. The absence of Lance Moore clearly affected his play-calling. Instead of using Adrian Arrington, he elected to go with tight ends Jimmy Graham and David Thomas as wideouts in spread formations. Arrington played only played one snap. All of the fullback snaps went to Jed Collins. Korey Hall strictly played special teams.]

    If you fancy a poke-around :

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Good find, Irish.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    that's what she said.

  • Irish - pertaining to your tucked-away comment about "controlled demolitions" on the last are fucking bonkers, mang.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP, what's up with everyone still commenting on old posts?!? Did I miss the memo?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ask Irish - he's the king of posting on dead threads. This was in reference to something I posted late last night to AX7...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I usually see the dead-thread posts over on the CN feed to the left...although it works about as well as anything else on this site.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The Dead Thread Master has returned ....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I don't know the context, but I'm guessing it had to do with buildings falling down into their own footprint at a free fall rate.

    Let's just ease my mind, and say the terrorists (or "turrrsts" as G-Dub would say) put bombs in the building before hand...

    That way, everyone's happy. Architects and people with a knowledge of physics, as well as the general Americans (or "murrrkins" as G-Dub would say), and even the Irish Sweetnesses can all agree.

    (I don't normally chime in on these discussions, as it's pointless... cognitive dissonance is a sonuvabitch no matter what you believe.)

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Well, controlled demolitions would imply exactly that, explosives very carefully attached to the struts. Terrorists can't do that. Larry Silverman's comment about his building 7 and saying 'we had to pull it.." was very strange. Saying "we had to pull it ..." logically implies that it was wired for demolition long in advance as any of the CD experts have pointed out. You don't drop buildings that size after just a couple of hours prep.

    I don't know what happened that day, all I know is there was a bunch of serious bullshitting going on. The full story has not been revealed, they're hiding something. I think/hope we can all agree on that.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    The pentagon was a weird one too. No 6-ton engines in view. The most widely covered CCTV area on the planet. No wreckage. Not one frame of a plane. How do guys who just learned to fly, fly 747s that precisely to into small targets? These are only questions. There's nothing wrong with asking valid questions.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Jesse Ventura dude. I ain't no expert on CDs.

  • woh. podlesh is jewish? so with him and carimi we've got 2 of the Chosen People. does that make us the most jewish team in the league?

  • In reply to Warrior Waddle:

    Nice. The NFL's most chosen.

    Let's hope that translates into taking back the lombardi from the filthy hoard. I can think of nothing more rewarding than doing to them this year, what they did to us last.

  • Sorry, but just another piece of evidence proving that Teddy B is an ahole.

    (Bonus: Kordell sighting!)

  • Wow way to over react Teddy. Perhaps he's mad because he doesnt know what a tweet is.

    Olin will look good for about the first quarter, after that he'll be backpeddling into the QB just like last year.

  • two things:

    1. It's pretty sad when you have to put out an instructional video for your fans about how to fucking cheer:

    2. Now, I don't want Brees hurt in any way shape or form because I've admired him as a QB since his days in SD, and he's one helluva guy... but I think one of these on the first series from pep would put a nice tone/pace to the game:

  • Why do I feel that the word "newish" was used solely for the purpose doing the "newish, Jewish" thing? Cornyish at its fineish.

    Sunday's game is going to make all of the Bears fans who are STILL crying about Olin's departure, jump for joy that he's gone.

    When a guy, any guy, be it friend, foe or former fellow-teammate, is standing across from you on the opposing team, all of the love and lollipop stuff goes out the window, quick. Believe me, the Bears defense won't be trying to make a point that we should've kept Kruetz, they will be proving that we made the right decision in letting him go!

  • To be honest, with the selling of Da Bear Jew t-shirts and going out of the way to identify Adam Podlesh as Jewish in the first paragraph, I am a little freaked out. I have no idea which of the Bears are Catholic, but the media has identified who the Jews are. No ill intent implied, it's just a little freaky.

  • In reply to johnpseudonym:

    Seriously.. of course maybe they're justy pointing that out so folks dont offer them a Christmas ham or platter of shelfish as a congratulatory gift.
    I would love to know which of the Bears are Irish/ German Catholics that vote democratic and despise mayonnaise - that way i can totally identify. It's just like actually being in the league..only not.

  • hahahahaha... are those your usual holidy gifts?

    I hate mayo too if that makes you feel any better.

  • In reply to johnpseudonym:

    I don't think he was talking religion, I believe it was his lineage he was writing about. Podlesh may be catholic or some other religion. I fail to see why it would "freak" you out. I don't buy the no ill intent, obviously you wrote this to cause some sort of outrage by the bloggers. I never saw you post outrage when Kreutz was often identified as Hawaiian, or our identification of our Samoan players cause you not to freak out when they were identified. Don't post just to stir up shit.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    I'm all stirred.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I'm stirred and shaken. Oh the humanity.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I'm shaken... not stirred. Like it should be... 007-style.

    and who the fuck are these randoms posting random shit in all its randomness.

    Probably max or one of the other trolls.... how utterly random.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Probably a reg ?

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Hawaiian or Samoan is a geographical label though Murph, when people get singled out because of their religion it's a different deal, isn't it? If my handle was Catholic Sweetness wouldn't that be slightly iffy? It would also be incorrect as I don't consider myself Catholic and don't buy into any of it, but other people would beg to differ. Jewish Nitty 34, Islam Andy 85 ... wouldn't that be offside?

  • In reply to johnpseudonym:

    Plus, I think maybe Da Blogfather is a member of da tribe.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I believe this has been discussed before and that Jeff is not, in fact, of the tribe.

  • In reply to johnpseudonym:

    Ok, I'm assuming adults are in the room. When an anti-semite or Nazi refers to a "Jew", they are typically trying to foment hate. When the word "Jew" is used in mostly any other context as a means of identifying one's heritage for innocent discussion purposes, I hardly believe one should be "freaked out". Most Jews I know are proud of their heritage and aren't offended by the term "Jew" when used in it's proper context. John, I suggest world history 101.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Jesus was a good jewish boy trac. (hee hee)

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I thought Jewish people would refer to themselves as Jewish though, and not use the word 'Jew' a lot? I don't recall many Jewish people referring to another person as a 'Jew'. I thought it had a definitely prickly slightly negative connotation attached?

    I love 'dead' threads. This one could really cook up.

  • In reply to johnpseudonym:

    I was thinking the exact same thing JP. This whole "Jews on the Bears" thing I'm finding very weird also. I thought better against posting anything as it deals with religion. But personally speaking ... I don't give a shit who is or isn't Catholic in the NFL (I was raised Catholic - I don't buy into religion, although Buddhism makes total rational sense), and who cares how many Catholic players there are in the league. If anyone thinks that they're somehow more important or better than anyone because of their religion - because of where their parents fucked - then I say shame on you.

  • When do we start freaking out about Urlacher? Hopefully everything is ok. We need that dude.

  • I bet he's out all week, then plays Sunday. Dude knows what he's doing on the field. He could change into his pads in the cab from the airport and still beat down the Saints.

  • Whatever Brian decides to do I hope he knows his fans here support his decision.

    Thoughts to his family during this difficult time.


  • In reply to Dmband:

    shit. best wishes and long life lach to you and the fam.

    Whether you should choose to pull a brett farve ( this weekend or not, I think we're all with you mang.

  • Lach..sending blessings out to you and the family..take care of biz w/fam and your standing brothers on your team will take care of biz to the ain'ts...

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Yeah God Bless ... He lost his mother and his kids lost their Grandma. He's going to have to deal with talking about loss and death to his kids all while dealing with his own greif. Good luck and may God be with you Lach.

  • Jeez, I didn't even think about that, just what he'd be going through. Granny died, yeah.

  • Peace be with her, Brian. We'll manage without ya. Take care of what's REALLY important and when you're ready, our road to NFL domination will continue.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Doc - how's your fam doing by the way? That was a scary situation; hope all is well.

  • I wonder what happened, she was only 51. Makes me want to call my mom....


  • On the Jewish topic, what are you guys nuts? Jewish professional football players are not exactly household commodities. They are absolutely worth pointing out and should be an alarming point of pride for the community.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:


    This was not lost on some of us. I got it completely ,and I dont think it even warranted a response.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:


    Those people were/are trolls.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Not sure I would use the term "alarming," but yes I'm proud of the team's Jews.

    Can't say its without reservation though... one of the big things I gave up when I became observant was the chance of my kids ever being seriously involved with football (high school and college games are all pretty much on Shabbos). While it is sad for me on some level, it was absolutely worth the sacrifice. I would support any player that made the decision to stop playing so he could become properly observant.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    No, I didn't get it. I had no idea there were very few of the Jewish community in the NFL if that's true. Not growing up in the States I have/had no idea if football is popular with Jewish kids or not, never crossed my mind - didn't think it was a religious-dependent thing ... maybe JP is non-American like me.

  • Also there are 11 total active Jewish players in the NFL. You know how I know that? They have a Wikipedia page dedicated to Jewish athletes. The Bears have 2 of the 11.

  • In reply to Jeff Hughes:

    Wait the fucking whaaaa....

    Taylor fucking Mays part 'o the tribe!?!??! Oh fuck me, now I'm doubly pissed we didn't pick him up for a fucking pastrami on rye!!! We could totally have been the chosen team this year (and had an extra FS).

    Sooooo, I guess his mom's Jewish? He doesn't look very Jewish (sorry, I HAD to)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd take Sage Rosenfels too ...

  • I get it, too... but for argument's sake -

    African American hockey players are not household commodities, and you wouldn't see me highlighting their race/religion, etc...

    As a slow white man, I feel comfortable commenting only on the ethnic facets of other slow white men. I might start calling out some other Italian guy... but I wouldn't call out a Jewish sports figure (because I'm not Jewish) or an African American hockey player.

    To that point - a Jewish friend of mine uses his ethnicity to not be racist. Case in point:

    Me: "So, I was hanging out with Jose last night and..."
    Him: "Wait, Jose... is he Jewish?"
    Me: "Uh, don't think so. He's Mexican"
    Him: "That's what I figured... I just asked if he was Jewish because I didn't want to sound racist."

    I love it... to this day, I try to use it whenever possible. of course, I say "slow white italian guy" instead.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    I like to think of us as 'less fast' Willie.....

    And why is it that white comedians have to be PC and tippy-toe around black folk, but black comedians can say whatever racist shit they like about whites? Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, Kat Williams, Eddie Murphy please stand up. Tired of that shit. Tired. Tired. Tired.

  • I don't go for any of that PC shit. I work in the theatre for a living and live in NYC. Jews are part of my life.


    This is for Viva.

    I have it like this:

    1. NE
    2. GB
    3. BAL
    4. PHL
    5. CHI
    6. NO
    7. SD
    8. PIT
    9. ATL
    10. NYJ (I guess??)

    Now, if when we beat the ‘Aints in their house this weekend… we're 3 or 4 easy depending on who else wins/loses. I also struggled with making GB 3 and Balt 2. I think this will prove itself out over the course of the next two games (although GB has an easy win this week).

    The Jets?!?! Really? After barely beating the terrible cowboys? Brutal Don, simply brutal.

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