Taylor, Harrison Out. The Cutdown Day Open Thread.

Taylor, Harrison Out.  The Cutdown Day Open Thread.

September 9th ends the Chicago's Most Valuable Blogger Award run by CBS.  Go vote.  Every day.  CLICK HERE.

Chester Taylor was the first big-ticket signing of the 2010 offseason for the Chicago Bears.  He was, seemingly, a perfect run-pass option in the Mike Martz system.  What happened?  Matt Forte happened.  Forte is a better, younger version of Taylor and the Bears simply realized Taylor's organization use was slight at best.  They needed a short-yardage back and they found him when they signed Marion Barber.  The emergence of Kahlil Bell as a legitimate halfback meant there was no room at the inn for Taylor.

Marcus Harrison (photo above) ate too much this offseason.  Now he's cut.  He's a terrific talent and when he's in shape can have his moments on the inside.  But really?  You ate too much this offseason?

I'll be away from the computer for most of the remainder of the day but will try to pop back on should anything shocking happen.

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  • I'm waiting to see who the Bears sign after week 1. There will be more than a few vets signed after teams no longer have to pay guaranteed money.

  • Loving the Fat Boy Slim album cover .... that I got sucked into buying. So long Chester, you got rolled by Robert Hughes. So long Eddie Williams, you were big. So long Onion Jones, you did nothing wrong. So long Angela ... oh wait ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Irish, Robert Hughes will not make an NFL roster. There is no reason for the Bears to even consider keeping him.
    Onrea Jones? c'mon mang.
    Amen on Angela though.

  • He's 235 lbs. That'll do me. Onion never dropped a ball, right?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    there is a reason Onrea never practiced or played with the 1's or 2's for the last 2 seasons with the bears. what you and i see him do against others who won't ever see an NFL field is a little misleading.
    Robert Hughes didn't even crack the starting lineup of the Irish and the other dude sucked. If you want a fullback sign a real fullback, not a big slow tailback.

  • That dude looks 13… the cig is a nice touch.

    Scary to think that’s what more than 1/2 of America and a lot or Europe (now) look like huh?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    those are the types of dudes that rip on elite athletes for being bums behind the safety and security of the interwebs.

  • or find rival team's blogs and troll over long periods of time? Sounds about right Johnny.

  • amen

  • do some scouring Irish... find us some diamonds in the rough lad: http://www.nfl.com/transactions?transactionMonth=9&transactionYear=2011&transactionTeamAbbr=&prevTransactionMonth=0&prevTransactionYear=0&prevTransactionTeamAbbr=

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like Chauncey Davis from the Falcons. Can't believe they cut him. Must be salary issue plus having Ray Edwards....who would have looked great in navy and orange.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How's this for scouring ... remember Charlie the Unicorn?

    My Amazing Horse :


    Which I came across after seeing some German kid covering it in his bedroom, if you like good rock guitar ....


  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    wow, terrible irish... not even close to charlie... but strangely I did keep wanting the chick-thing to take her top off? Does that make me weird?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    no, all of japan is with me i guess

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They'd want to rape her too ....

  • Where are the "user pic" that are friendly to Luddites? There was a promise made on Learn - Chicago Now.

  • Slim's got to get more of the Sliced Apples and fewer Angus Third Pounders.

    A future in cardio for Slim.

  • Another 3rd Rounder on the trash heap. If Paea gets cut I don't see how anyone can defend JA. Any stat guy want to compare JA to other GM's as far as how long draft picks in the 1st three rounds stay on the team? It can't be good.

    Even with FA he had some good O-line signings back in the day and Peppers but who else has he gotten that has been great or even really good.

    And besided the Cutty trade (which was for a lot and I am thrilled that we did) it feels like I have been pissed at every other trade and that we got took.

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    Mike and Viva will.

    I've tried 34... and have given up already. It's pretty evident to me, but wtf do I know.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In Jerry's defense, in 2008 we drafted Earl the Pearl Bennett AND Marcus Harrison in the 3rd round.

    HOWEVER. Jammal Charles was available when we drafted Earl Bennett and Jermichael Finley was drafted one pick after Harrison.

    I won't even bother to list the rest of the 3rd rounders who are still on the teams that drafted them in 2008 lest I be accused of hindsight being 20/20.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    GP, can you please post the jpeg of your brilliant shirt design here? Thank you sir.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Harrison? The guy we just cut? And now that you pointed it out, I'd take Jamaal Charles and Finley plesae.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Which Mike? Me?

    I don't really try to defend JA as a GM here (although I do think he is about league average, or better). I only defend JA or LS from what I think are blatantly unfair accusations... like whenever there are pretty obvious reasonable alternate explanations (or at least reasonable doubt).

    But I know better than to try and prove he's actually good here =). Viva is much braver (and feels much more strongly about it) than me.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    yes, you mike... michael takes too long to type out.

    Really there's way too much evidence... I honestly can't be convinced any more, and I never got Viva's essay... I'm still waiting Viva!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Heh, ML works too if you prefer...

    I'm not trying to convince anyone that JA is any good. I only say stuff in response to when someone makes a comment about JA or LS that's just flat-out wrong, or is unconfirmed speculation that's probably wrong.

    I really don't love the guy all that much (and I certainly am not a fan of his attitude), but the complaints I hear/read from fans just don't stand up to scrutiny. Not everything that goes wrong is somebody's fault. Another thing -- we've had more success under him and LS than under anyone else since Ditka. I really have no desire to roll the dice on a new GM or HC and see what we get.... Until we get a partial owner with deep pockets, what makes you think we won't get the same (or worse) garbage all over again?

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    I used to write essays on how crap Angela is. It got too depressing.

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    The jury is still out on the Cutler trade boys and girls .....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Iiiiiirish, irish, irish...

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    oh my god Irish. Let's just let the kid play when he's not getting blasted every time he drops back and see how he performs. I'm so fucking sick of the comparisons to Brady and Manning and the judgments of his performance while on his back more than any qb in the league . If those guys were behind this line in this offense they would be TKO'd in a skinny minute and people would be talking about how shitty they were.

  • Plus with every bad JA draft pick the trade looks better and better.

  • +1 * (I wish) every Bears fan in the world

    The scrutiny and impatience these Bears QBs get is just insane... and we wonder why they crack.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    amen, brother

  • Don't get me wrong, I love Cutty, honerstly I do .... but unless we actually win a Lombardi then the trade didn't work. Orton plus two firsts and a third would have been a different team. Although with Angelo picking those players ... then perhaps it was just safer to deal them.

  • +1.

  • And if the O-line gets it done this year, find out exactly how much of a raise Briggs wants and give it to Tice. Seriously, 3 years left on your deal?

    I thought he was done as a Bear last time and was thrilled we signed him and suprised that it was for so cheap. While Briggs timing and tactics are terrible, a good organization would offer him a raise after this year if he kills it or definitely after next year. Just a little extra, you know, something for the effort. Sad that Briggsy thinks that there is almost zero chance of that happening no matter how good he plays.

    Like Carl Spackler said to the Dalai Lama, "Total enlightenment don't pay da bills and hoes like lambos." (citation needed)

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    ok, dude.... you've now posted enough that you need to change that handle, it's whack man. I know it could be a play, or is most likely a reference to both Sweetness and Skunk, but... never mind.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Or the name of a Borg. Sorry, been watching Star Trek on Netflicks again...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Speaking of badonkadonks - Seven of Nine from Deep Space Nine, third adjunct to Unimatrix ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    That would be Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9 and she was on STAR TREK VOYAGER. Couldn't get into DS9 myself.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:


    I myself favor the more poetic phrasology of that ill-fated Officer Candidate, Sid Worley, in AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN who gave us the immortal line:

    "Bodacious Set of Tah-Tahs" .

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It does sound like a pretty bad ass play huh?

    I am the long lost Z but the gnome rejected just Z when the site changed and I am required to have a minimum 4 character name.

    I am open to suggestions. Just has to have a Z somewhere in it.

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    I thought that might be you Z.

    Do you have any german lineage? You could be Z Bears?

    Or Zzzz, but that looks like you're sleeping.

    That's all I got's Z

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    If it had 'slot' or 'waggle' on the end then yes, it would sound like a bad-ass play :o)

  • We have 20 mil in cap room this year, buuuutt...

    "Combine [Taylor's release] with tight end Brandon Manumaleuna, the Bears paid the free-agent additions $13.105 million in 2010, the kind of misses the team hasn't had in free agency previously."

    -Biggs, Trib

    Me thinks the McCheapsters told J.A. "Blue light specials this year. You know how you can buy bags of candy at the 99c store, and maybe half will be ok, while the rest will be stale or funky tasty...yeah, that's our spending policy for 2011..."

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    it really sucks being a fan of the most fabled org in the NFL and having owners who are only interested in the bottom line the wrong way (if you've been here a while, you know that what I mean by 'the wrong way' is they worry about spending instead of investing correctly to turn the Bears brand into the biggest grossing commercial and marketing brand in the NFL... which would be pretty easy I maintain), and a GM who's had some lucky hits now and then, but for the most part is a fucking buffoon and makes us look ridiculous. There's a reason all of football media hates us... because we don't shut them the fuck up on the field consistently enough to earn their respect. That, my good friends is all on Jerry Angelo and the people who hired him.

    Yes, there are probably worse GMs out there, and we KNOW there are much better ones. So some (mike, viva, etc…) take the positive tact (which is very noble) and say hey, he’s not thaaaaat bad. He haaas had some hits. My issue, again as you all know, is that we’re settling… and settling badly. Like a pro basketball player who settles for a no talent reality TV hack whose only talent is being a hooker on video and whose ‘great junk’ will very shorty turn into simply a huge fat ass.

    My point is that, we are the fucking Chicago Staley Bears and we deserve owners who do everything they can to secure wins and honor for their team EVERY year… and a GM who’s top 5. I’m 100% fine with the owners parlaying their passion for winning into a marketing brand that makes them tons of money…. If they do their part to religiously push the team to win and always be competitive, that stuff would just come and the money worries would go away by themselves – it’s called a win win. Fans get a dynasty caliber team, owners get the fame and fortune, and Papa Bear can stop fucking spinning in his grave. New owners and a new GM right now please.

    We deserve more than a playoff run every 3-5 years and a SB trip every 25. We are NOT the browns or bungles… we are the Chicago Bears.

    -Bear Down with Your Pair Down

    Ps. That all said, I ALWAYS hope for playoffs and a SB run.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Amen, MB, Amen - preach on!

    And I believe the correct term is "badonkandonk" (I was waiting for the autospell to correct that, but I guess it hasn't caught up yet):

    An ‘ebonic’ expression for an extremely curvaceous female behind. Women who possess this feature usually have a small waist that violently explodes into a round and juicy posterior (e.g., 34c, 24, 38). Other characteristics would be moderately wide hips and a large amount of booty cleavage (i.e, depth of butt-crack).


    For those of you who don't usually like definitions, I think you'd like this entry - it has visual examples.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    not my style... I like all the big cleavage up top and the bottom to fit into one hand. (See kate upton)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm the exact opposite...
    more than a handful is wasteful....
    jus can't be 'skeeter bites...
    and I like a fat ass...
    (see Jessica Beil or Alicia Keys)

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:


    sad soil, sad.

    You do know that junk turns in to juuunk when they get old right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ok. I take that back...
    def. not wasteful...
    jus thought the saying sounded clever....
    I love tits too...
    jus love ass more...
    nothin' like hittin' that shit from the back and watchin' it jiggle...

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There's a great big fat woman inside Beyonce just waitin to happen ....

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    if you think Jessica Biel has a fat ass you must live in Milan.

  • hee hee

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ...or BA

  • have you NEVER seen "I pronounce you Chuck and Larry" when she's changing infront of Adam Sandler and she pulls her pants down and her butt jiggles?


  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    that's not a fat ass though. Beyonce's upper thighs and ass are thick with that skinny midsection. Biel is an athlete and her body is bangin.

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    Thank you for that. She nice.

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    yeah, not a fat ass at all, and not much junk there... you can tell she has the ability to plump out in the upper thigh if not careful down the line

  • In reply to 4ever85:


    I myself favor the more poetic phrasology of the ill-fated Officer Candidate, Sid Worley, in AN OFFICER AND A GENTLEMAN who gave us the immortal line:

    "Bodacious Set of Tah-Tahs" .

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You know what 30, I even mostly agree with all that.

    One thing you have to realize though is that most of the old owners of the NFL are only as rich as they are on paper. Unlike the Krafts, Blanks, and Snyders of the "new" owner set, they don't have bucketloads of cash or an independent mega-business enterprise to draw deep from.

    Look I won't make excuses for them, but even old football families like the Rooneys, Bidwills, Hunts, Wilsons, and Browns... they all have limited cash and thus have to rely on bringing football people in to try and make their dollars go further. Except for Dan Rooney, they don't know football, so they do like the McCaskeys and try to bring in football people they trust. They also can't afford to take the same kind of risks that independently wealthy owners do -- because any downturn in football's overall popularity will plummet their franchise value, and very easily wipe out any liquid wealth they have.

    Even the win, win attitude may end up a curse rather than a blessing -- look at Al Davis. Can you imagine if Michael or George tried to do everything they could to win, and took charge of football operations? Or amongst the "new" owners, look at Snyder or Jones. Be careful what you wish for.

    Halas is, hands down, one of the greatest men in the NFL, and even I'd say a great man in his own right. I accept his legacy as part of the Bears, and unfortunately as one of the great founding and successful franchises that also means accepting that it is an "old owner" franchise.

    That means we have to understand what kind of things they can and cannot do. We can't expect them to be like the Patriots, or the Dolphins, or the Bucs, or the Falcons, or the Seahawks, or the Redskins, or the Jets, or the Eagles, or the Ravens, or the Vikings, or the Chargers. We instead have to look at the Steelers, Giants (although they have a "new" 50% businessman owner so now have cash), Chiefs, Bills, and Titans.

    We have to be realistic. Since Halas never had a Dan Rooney type descendant to learn the ropes underneath him, and Halas never built a wealthy business franchise outside of football, we have to understand the situation we have. You know, after writing all this, I think maybe the best thing would actually be to do something like the Giants did -- bring in a wealthy businessman as a 50% owner. That way we could maintain the Halas tradition AND convert some of the "paper" value of the Bears franchise into cold, hard cash that can be re-invested into the product they field.

    Honestly I'm less gungho about ejecting JA than Ted Phillips. Losing JA would have no guarantee of bringing in anyone better, and actually a good chance of bringing in someone worse. If we got a good sports owner as a partner, and the new combined team shook up the leadership structure... and THEN they brought in a new GM, I'd be more receptive to change.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yup. When it's done right, you posess a solid and deep roster and actually collect first round picks in a little bag of delicious Wonka confectionery that you can take out and peruse throughout the season, just happy in the knowledge that they're there ... a la Willy Wonka Belicheat. There's nothing in Angela's pockets except lint, dead cockroaches and IOUs.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    There is nobody in the league that does what Belichick does. He is seriously in a class of his own.

    Everyone that has worked with him, including GM Pioli, hasn't been able to work the same kind of magic elsewhere that he does in NE year after year.

    It's useless to use Belichick as a standard to measure other GM/HC/personnel guys because nobody compares, or even really comes close...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    i don't know, the pack seems to keep on stockpiling LB's and DB's that can compete.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    The Steelers seem to have done rather well over the years.

  • I had this thought when i heard chester taylors no longer a bear:

    this was one of those real life obstacles that created friction inside forte's mind.......the difference in salary was painful for him to think about

    he prorably felt like he was owed some language from mgt./ownership'; letting him know that they recognized this and would be open to talking behind the public eye...
    mgt. made the gamble and lost so they should pay for the mistake of bettin on the wrong horse....

    they unintentionaly set the market in forte's mind, he has been using taylor as a point of reference, even though they may have been freinds .....

  • Desmond Clark cut.

    "The Bears brought back Clark, a free agent in the offseason, on a one-year deal a few days into training camp after he was active for only five games in 2010. The tight end performed well in practice but suffered a minor knee injury during the third preseason game against Tennessee. Clark's departure likely opens the door for undrafted rookie free agent Kyle Adams to secure a role on the final 53-man roster as the team's swing tight end and H-back.

    A 13-year NFL veteran, Clark ranks second in franchise history among tight ends with 242 receptions and 18 touchdowns, and third with 2,639 receiving yards. He recorded 40 plus catches in three consecutive seasons (2006-08) and caught a career high six touchdowns the same year the Bears advanced to the Super Bowl."


  • In reply to 34Z23:

    sad. Love you dez. Best of luck my man.

  • In reply to 34Z23:

    much respect to Dezzy. That guy was a football player.

  • oh yea....
    I fucking HATE our entire organization....
    anybody who has a hand in running this team....
    (minus Taub & Hot Rod)
    as I've said in previous post...
    they are gna turn the MOST storied franchise in the NFL and turn it into the LAUGHING STOCK of the ENTIRE league...
    they've done a pretty good job of it in the little bit of 2011 season that's happened so far....
    I can only imagine what else can/will happen throughout this season....
    why couldn't the McCaskFUCKS get a SERIOUS case of the Kennedy's....
    (if you know what I'm sayin'!)

  • In reply to SoILBearsFan:

    Are you Marcus Harrison?

  • Patriots cut safety Brand Meriweather.

    C'mon JA get that finger out of the McCaskey ass and sign the man!

  • In reply to DYLbear23:


  • Butter released by the Colts as well. Teehee.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Apologies of either of these are old news or have been mentioned before, been busy watching my country get robbed at football (soccer).

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    you hate to see a guy get cut. he could never recover from that knee and hammy fiasco. he'll be limping around forever. Fucking Columbo.

  • Was a shame for Harris considering that if he stayed healthy then the position was basically a lock for at least 10 years. Gotta roll with what you're dealt though.

    In similar news (i.e. injuries), couldn't help but notice that Vasher got cut as well. Bad times for ex-bears.

  • In reply to DYLbear23:

    Okoye is like a younger healthier Tommie Harris. don't worry, you'll like him. He plays like AA and is explosive.

  • 'final' tally (for today): http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=8116

    wonder who they put on the practice squad.... maybe Robert Hughes and Kris Adams?

    They should find us another FS or corner and cut flatbread for the spot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Agreed. If he isn't showing anything then put him on the practice squad and hope for the best.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Kris Adams did not impress me. He dropped kicks, didn't block and dropped passes he needed to catch. I'd rather keep a guy like Reed who can play specials and refuses to quit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We put Paea in the practice squad and we might as well have just given our second pick to some other team during the draft and saved everyone the trouble.

    Paea had an injury that he still might be recovering from (like Favre killer last year) AND Marinelli has been putting him at Nose T not 3tech Tackle, which is not his strength. No matter how strong he is, he's not 400 pounds (not to mention he plays too high, thus - flatbread)

    Keep him, let him recover fully from his knee, allow him a little more time in the system, play him at 3 tech, and someone get his ass to bend and play with leverage.

    My two cents...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    correction, if we put Paea on the practice squad, we might as well have given a 2nd AND a 4rth to which ever team picks him up.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Again, Mayock said the guy had 'no football instincts' and yet we drafted him because we knew better. Not a doubt in my mind he got drafted because of his bench-pressing ability. Pool guy. Bench press guy. Bullshit. Anyone on thois blog could draft better than Angela. Pin the tail on the donkey style. That's how that cancer drafts people.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    solid comment mang

  • Yes I agree.

    Rewind the DVR and watch the Browns game. Harrison played decent. He's a fatty, but hard as hell to move.

    Harrison lost his job because if we cut OR try and stash Paea, Angelo looks like moron.

    Welcome to the Bears, Stephen. Rooks aren't allowed much time in the hottubs, so you can carry bags off the bus.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He drafted them all GP - he looks like a moron anyone way you slice it.

  • Fairly surprised at the decision to only keep 5 LBs. 54 and 55 are hardly kids and 53 shows tendencies to get dinged pretty easily.

    Not happy with the decision on Dez but Adams can play FB and play on special teams. Spaeth and Davis will get primary time at TE. Always thought Davis was a player!!!

    5 UDFAs remarkable

  • In reply to MoneyBoy:

    Pisa coming to theater near you in early October moneyboy.

  • artist ... smackin my forehead in V-8 style ... out of sight, out of mind ... forgot about Pisa ... thanks

  • In reply to MoneyBoy:

    Sanzenbacher: almost a lock, which is pretty remarkable for an UFDA. Great route runner, soft hands, knowledgeable, determined and contributes to SP. A lot of teams were after him, luckily he chose us, of all reason, cuz of Martz! If he becomes a Welker of Waddle, it'll almost makeup for the Collins debacle.

    Kyle Adams: They let go of Dez for this guy, so he must be pretty good. FB/TE/H-back who blocks well and has decent speed and size. Martz is probably having wet dreams about him.

    Mario Addison: Solid DE. Showed he can pressure and play the run (even though he lost contain once or twice). Only reason they picked him over Reed is because he's younger and bigger than Reed. He'll come in sparingly, along with Melton and even Okoye (who did play some DE in Texas) until Favre-Killer gets back to full health.

    Dom DeCicio Wasn't he a mob boss in The GodFather or something? Well, hopefully he can put a hit on someone on game day. I think he was a converted Safety, and we all remember the last time we converted a white safety into a MLB; hopefully, history repeats.

    Winston Venable All he does is destroy anyone in his vicinity. Like most "head-hunters", needs to learn how to wrap up a bit, and play zone, but that's what coaching is for. He also has impressed in camp for his kickoff/Punt coverage. We all saw the hammer he swung down on that WR, imagine if he has a 30 yard head start...

    Will Ta'ufo'ou Since we didn't have enough guys whose names we will mispell, he fit the bill. Our only "true" FB on the roster, and this signing to me is more telling as to what the Bears are planning: POWER RUN. They now have two 6'7 TEs in Davis and Spaeth. Kyle Adams is 6'5 250, Our offensive line is about 200 pounds more massive than last year, add Barber and 'UFO to the mix - wow. 3rd and short and red-zone scoring is going to be very interesting for us this year.


  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Nice analysis.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    I'm not sold on Venable, but I think the rest are good choices.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Venabel, if allowed to play in an actual NFL game against an NFL team as a safety will be worse than Mike fucking Green. He was absolutely lost on defense.

  • Yeah, I'm pretty sure Venable was a pure ST only roster choice.

    To be fair though, you pretty much expect the kid to be lost on defense. He's a rookie and undrafted no less. I doubt if he even saw time on the #2 defense...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    They didn't keep Addison over Reed -- they kept both!

    I actually think that may have been the reason why Harrison got cut, not to keep Paea. I have a feeling when Marinelli saw how badly both of them wanted to make the team, he decided he'd rather have both of them than Harrison.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Love the UFO name... hehe.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Yeah, I was thinking we need to work with that and use Alf or Mork or some such for Will on Da Blog.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Yup, short yardage should not be a problem for us this year, in fact our offense should be considerably better and that's all good news.

  • I'm glad they let some vets go to make room for young guys. Always loved Dez but nothing lasts forever. Taylor and Harrison, don't care. Wish they could have found a way to keep Hughes. You never know. We may swap out 2-3 of the tail end of the roster. Who knows? I'm always willing to cut Lovie some slack considering who is picking the talent.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yup, I'd love Hughes on the roster. If Tofu is sole FB then we have nobody to hand the ball off to as he lead blocks - if we're talking I-formation. Hughes would be perfect for that. See him dive in against Cleveland? He was like a fat Sweetness. I haven't seen anyone dive in for a TD in a long time.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    What're you talking about? No one to hand off to? What about Barber? You want a 5th string RB instead of Barber or Bell?

    Don't get me wrong, I really liked what I saw out of Hughes, and I'm glad he's being tabbed for the P squad. Also totally agreed, that goal line dive was sweet (although he didn't even get half as high as 34 did). I see him as having potential to become something in the future, but I seriously doubt he's ready now to be better than any of the 3 RBs on the roster.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I wouldn't want him at the expense of one of the top three, no, it'd be nice to have him on the roster though. He's like a second FB. Sad to see Eddie Williams go.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I knew you'd have a Hughes boner when you had a chance to watch him Irish!

    Fat Sweetness - hehe...thought the same. Shlo-mo.

    However, Barber is going to be the short yd guy, and Bell has big play potential, can pound it, AND plays special team.

    I think we're going to try to steal Hughes unto the practice squad. I mean, who else watched the Browns-Bears 4rth preseason game? (fingers crossed)

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Irish, we signed Armando Allen to the practice squad. That is the guy that started in front of Hughes at Notre Dame.

  • So I was wrong last thread... a FS did get released! Pats released Meriweather. I don't really know that much about his play, other than he's been benched multiple times for apparently lapses in his play.

    As for the current roster... it's looking good, and I'm excited. I have some thoughts on it, but I'll share them later...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Told u Michael. The 85 Money Back gauranteed never fails.

    Merriweather isn't even all that old, which in addition to the Pats releasing him, raises an eyebrow. However, one could make the argument that the Pats won god knows how many games last season, and are brimming with talent (like the Fudge). Keep in mind too that the Pats ran a completely different D than ours, and that as far as I know, he has no connections to any of our coaches (which usually tends to be factor for both players and teams).

  • In reply to Michael L:

    2 time pro bowler and if he has lapses then all the more reason to only put him in for a handful of plays during game. He can't be as bad as Conte has looked anyhow.

    We at least have to bring him in for a look surely....

    .......please JA? Don't do another kelvin hayden on us though.

  • Kristin Cavalleri AND Chaz Bono in this years Dancing w. the stars? How can I say no?

    More bacon! What up ribs?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Maybe they'll hook up off screen.


  • In reply to Shady:

    Chastity Bono is now a 'man' I believe. Here's Liz with the weather ....

  • For MB - today's T-shirt design. Looks good on orange t-shirt

  • In reply to gpldan:

    beautiful GP, simply beautiful.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Blind squirrels finding nuts. Stopped clocks being right twice a day. I still need it explaining to me how this man is not just employede done the Cutler deal, but earning millions of dollars a year. My mother could have done the trade and probably kept us a first rounder. It was Orton they were after.

  • Hee hee... nice shady.

    Fucking Oregon getting RUUUUN by LSU right now btw... WITHOUT their 1st string QB and MLB. Damn... but orgeon's unis look sharp, so there's that.

    Mike, again, that's all logical and I get what we have... I just don't want what we have. And yeah, shit can always be worse, but it can also be better. You're right about the McC's, and that’s us exactly why they should take the money and run. Sell to someone who cares man. And our brand could very easily be the new cowboys with a few SBs and constant playoff visits… shit, we have packer fans wanting to be bears fans on this very blog already.

    Look, all I’m saying is we’ve never had a dynasty, but I know we deserve one. Yeah, I don’t have the formula for what that would look like, I just KNOW that it wouldn’t and doesn’t involve jerry angelo, to your point teddy, and all of the McC’s. Otherwise we’re going to be relegated to a once in 5 year playoff berth and a SB visit every quarter century. Just don’t want to believe that’s our destiny man. It’s frustrating and it’s sad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bulls have a legit shot at an NBA run this year.

    Sox didn't put it together, some key players just fell apart
    We all await the lifting of the Cubs curse
    Blackhawks won the Cup

    We'll all be dead and people won't know who Ditka even was before we win the Super Bowl again...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They'd never sell mang. It's like being owners of one of the banks in the Fed - it's literally a license to print money. And winning superbowls doesn't make you any more of it. 'Tis our lot in life.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think the McCaskeys, at least Virginia, do care. They just don't know what they are doing, and don't have the liquidity that independently wealthy owners that buy in have.

    We have had a dynasty. The 1930s teams and 1940s teams dominated the league over several years each.

    Why do you say we deserve a dynasty, if you also say the owners suck and the organization is rotten? Or did you mean the fans? Fans don't deserve anything.

    One out of every 5 years? Let's look at the facts:

    2004 - no playoffs
    2005 - playoffs, 2nd round exit
    2006 - playoffs, SB exit
    2007 - no playoffs
    2008 - no playoffs
    2009 - no playoffs
    2010 - playoffs, NFC championship exit

    That's 3 playoff berths in 7 years, and 1 SB visit. So what should be our destiny? By comparison, let's look at the Packers those same years:

    2004 - playoffs, 1st round exit
    2005 - no playoffs
    2006 - no playoffs
    2007 - playoffs, NFC championship exit
    2008 - no playoffs
    2009 - playoffs, 1st round exit
    2010 - playoffs, SB win

    Does that really look so far off from what we got? How about the Giants those years:

    2004 - no playoffs
    2005 - playoffs, 1st round exit (shutout)
    2006 - playoffs, 1st round exit
    2007 - playoffs, SB win
    2008 - playoffs, 2nd round exit
    2009 - no playoffs
    2010 - no playoffs

    I might argue that record is even worse, especially if you consider the SB a fluke win. They only sniffed the SB once in that time unlike the Bears, and although they have one more playoff appearance they got shutout in an embarrassing 23-0 performance.

    All that said though, I do agree with you -- I would like even better results. But constantly putting down the owners, undercutting the GM and HC, and fostering a negative fan base is not going to get us there. We need to convince Virginia or her children to bring a smart, well-heeled investor into the fold. It's really as simple as that.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I see a Lombardi in those Giants and GB stats there Michael .... and we're coming up on thirty years since our last and only trophy. To add insult to injury, the most over-rated QB of all time managed to somehow get an MVP award out of our SB exit when he stank the place out of it.

    The ownership has been brutal since Papa Bear passed. Finks was the only good thing there and once he was gone so was any chance of success, then and since. We're not negative, the ownership is. A pissy little mining town has six Lombardis. The second biggest market share in the country has one. Go figure.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Yes, I'd rather have a SB win there instead of a loss. But you have to acknowledge luck figures into the outcomes. Do you really think JA's vs TT's vs Reese's roster-making was the difference between a SB win and loss?

    GB almost didn't even make the playoffs, and what if they don't injure Cutler midway through the first half, who knows? David Tyree's helmet. If T.Harris or M.Brown aren't injured at the end of the year, the entire complexion of SB XLI changes (i.e. the blown D.Manning coverage and total failure of run defense). You can't pin all that on the GM alone.

    Still the fact remains, JA's roster got 1 chance at a Lombardi, 2 chances at the SB -- exactly the same as GB. Heck JA's squads got 3 chances at a conf title game vs GB's 2. And Reese's squads got even less at 1, 1, and 2. You can't ask the GM to win big games for you, only to give you a chance. By that metric I'm not sure anybody in the NFC has actually done any better...
    I do agree with you 100% on the COMPLETELY undeserved MVP award to P.Manning though. Fucking B.S. Also, since Papa Bear passed, the Steelers have won 2 SBs -- both came in the last 6 years, 26 years after their last one. All it takes is one strong regime (and a little luck) to get a crack at a few. Not many teams can say they made it to 2 conf title games in the last 7 years -- just 4 in fact: Eagles, Saints, Packers, Bears. (On the AFC side just 4 also -- Patriots (4), Steelers (3), Colts, Jets.)

    And are you kidding me? The fans aren't negative? Have you read comments on any Trib or Sun-Times article? It's ridiculous. Or for that matter so-called Bears fans at PFT, nfl.com, ESPN, yahoo, etc? Don't get me wrong -- I meet plenty of cool Bears fans in all the places I've traveled to, but to deny there isn't a heavy negative contingent out there (especially online) is... living in fantasy.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    YES. Absolutely agree with you on all points above.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Thanks man...

    Funny, you know Viva never did write up that JA defense essay... but you could probably piece together one from all the shit I posted scattered throughout this thread. It's particularly amusing because I wasn't even sure Viva had a case!

  • In reply to Michael L:

    You give the best defense I have read yet.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    EASY there on the praise of past ownership, Irish.

    I was there, boys and girls, and BELIEVE ME, ownership was no great shakes in the later years under George Halas, either.

    Item: They pissed away #1s annually (Remember the immortal Mike Hull? Lionel Antoine? Waymond bryant?).

    Item: Yeah, they had the miraculous 1965 draft that landed Hall-Of-Famers Sayers and Butkus but to what effect? I believe Gale & Dick enjoyed ONE winning season (1965) for their combined careers.

    Item: Hall of Fame Tight End Ditka was traded away in 1968 in a contract dispute after saying the old man "...throws nickels around like they were manhole covers". Swapped to the Eagles for the immortal Jack Concannon, I think.

    Item: That regime also gave us the laughable, embarrasing, incompetant and WAY too long tenured, ABE "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrong" GIBRON years.

    Sadly, the franchise was a joke for almost 20 years until Papa Bear FINALLY realized it was time to pass the reins (are you LISTENING Al Davis?) and hired Jim Finks. Even so, Finks soured on the organization and bolted to New Orleans.

    Papa Bear had his moments, but most of them happened in the 30's and 40s. Plus. he lost TWO championship games (1946, I believe & 1956) to the Giants because New York was smart enough to switch to tennis shoes on a frozen field while the Bears spent BOTH games skating around on their cleats. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on Papa Bear.

    Sorry if this smacks of herasy but those ARE the facts, folks and I don't care much for revisionist history.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Praising Jim Finks would be as far as I'd go Al. I know the old man was a pennypincher too.

  • I think having FIVE undrafted rookie free agents make this club is:

    A. Going to be the record this year
    B. Doesn't really acquit the Bears draft choices very well.

    Great Dane
    Dom DiCicco, whose grandfather was at this sitdown:
    Super Mario Addison
    Boilermaker Adams
    Grey Poupon

  • In reply to gpldan:

    A. I'm pretty sure it will be.
    B. Why? They had a ton of roster slots open this year. What draft picks did they let go besides Harrison? They didn't re-sign D.Manning or Kreutz, they traded Olsen, and they cut loose T.Harris. Those weren't bad draft choices. They got production out of all of them, and other teams still wanted them (other than Tommie).

  • Hey viva... need some advice/input on a really strong 16" AR system. Any advice my man?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    damn MB, you going to war or something? blood vendetta? rival software manufacturer?

  • all of the above...

    Naw, just kidding mang, just some rec shooting... I have a handgun for home protection and tried my buddies ar at the range the other day and really liked it.

    'Sides... I need something bigger for the zombies mang, you know this.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:


    with optics to see through the fucking smog!

  • Now that's a pretty gun.
    Love this though : "10 round magazine will be shipped to restricted states instead of 30 round magazine." Yeah, cos the 30 round version is dangerous ....

  • thanks johnny, but:

    1. "*This Gun is NOT California Compliant*"

    2. Don't need a sniper rife... I don't think at least

    Irish... funny. the gun at the range had a 30 rd mag... felt like I was in an a-team episode... I just kept firing and the damn thing never ran out of rounds.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here you go:


    Now if you want really good advise here it is: if you can't see in the dark than you and your enemy are on equal footing. In battle, you need to have the upper hand, so spend your money on optics that will give you an advantage...


  • In reply to Viva:

    i was thinking about asking for that and a french press for christmas.

  • In reply to Viva:

    nice, thanks Viva. I was looking at Bushmaster, just something a little more at entry level first: http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWA3F16M4MLMOE.asp

    The ACR looks indeed to be a bad mofo. Do you own it? You think Bushmaster over any of the other companies like rock river, armalite, CMMG, Stag, etc....?

    Thanks for the tip... I was thinking red dot as this would be more of a range gun than home protection... I have my XD for that (highly accessible and not a danger to kiddies... it's in a mini safe with quick open: http://www.gunvault.com/handgun-safes/mini-mini-deluxe.html)

  • Give it up for Sac State beating Oregon in the annual money game. I hate these games and wish they would stop playing them but seeing the underdog win one out of 48 is at least slightly gratifying.

  • and fuuuuuuck sac state... sorry man, old rivalries die hard.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    NOT exactly a banner debut for the shiny new PAC-12.

    And I expect Arizona to get pantsed, again, this Thursday by Okie State.

  • Wow. Check out the album cover for You've Come A Long Way Baby that was actually released in the states, it wasn't the fat kid above, Mark Johnson (who should be the permanent DBB blog-head). He was deemed, erm, too fat for Americans to see ...


  • This team and it's fans deserve exactly what MB30 is saying but unfortunately Michael is right about the ownership. It all starts there. The team has never hired a coach that had previous head coaching experience. Ever. Not once. The odds of things like that changing with this regime? Hah.

    While Lovie sucks at the unimportant parts of coaching like clock management, timeouts and challenges, he is very good at keeping the players pretty happy and together. We definitely need that right now with some people getting a little pissy.

    JA gets no such reprieve.

    5 URFA make the final roster? What do you think is more likely? That they are so magical at finding diamonds in the rough that they nailed 5 awesome ones? Or that the GM has left parts of the team so thin that we don't have the depth to blow 5 URFA off of the squad?

    How many other Division winners kept 5? Did any keep 3? Did NE even keep 1? Just wondering.

    Still think we will go 11-5. Just frustrated. I don't like settling and that is what it feels like with JA.

    Ok, the roster is set. Rant is over. Now optimism until otherwise warranted.

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    I need a 1 comment extension on that. 56 URFA made 53 man squads this year. We had 5 of them.


    The Cowgirls and Colts did have 4.

    Giants 3

    Packers 3

    Vikings 2

    Lions 1

    And the Pats did have 1 too.

    I don't see another good team having more than 2.

    I know 1 season is a small sample size. Just saying...

  • And speaking of other teams.


  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    Hangartner - Bills center, anyone? And why didthe Pats cut a 27 year old safety that made th last two pro bowls?

  • Apparently, Merriweather was outplayed by Sergio Brown and Josh Barrett in the pre-season. He's still a two-time pro-bowler over the last two seasons. They have better safeties than we do, so give em a call.

  • We got Meriweather - one year deal.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's both Clayton and Schefter reporting it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    jesus, thank god Angelo at least gets all the critical must-have no-brainers. Sheesh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe JA read the blog and wanted us to back off him for a day. Here is your day buddy. Enjoy it while it lasts.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shut the front door. For real?

  • http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6930159/brandon-meriweather-agrees-chicago-bears-day-new-england-patriots-cut-him


    Sweet: "During the Miami-FIU brawl on October 14, 2006, Meriweather was seen stomping multiple times on several Florida International players on the ground. Meriweather was ultimately suspended by the ACC and Miami for his role in the incident.[4] It is believed that his actions during the brawl and the shooting incident may have caused his draft stock to slip"

  • Oh well GP: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/6929918/new-england-patriots-sign-brian-waters-source-says

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A winning club picks up a winning guy. We pick up a Hurricane with a rap sheet.

  • Hey Mike (and viva), here's a question for you... would you swap Jerry for any of the following GMs:

    * Ted Thompson
    * AJ Smith
    * Ozzie N.
    * Kevin Colbert

    Straight up of course. Any takers? Did you even have to finish reading the first name? I didn't.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ted Thompson is the man. I hate the Pack so much.

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    I meant the guy before him Ron Wolf. That bastard. But Thompson seems to be doing ok.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd swap Angela for a bag of crap. You could use the bag for something.

  • Ask and you shall receive. We have a brand new safety.


  • In reply to Nagurski:

    Pacman Jones sniff test:

    Popped a cap in a guy - check
    Fined for a helmet spear on Todd Heap - check

    Book on him: Often out of position getting beat over the top, but makes up with alot by his athleticism and speed. Often looks for the big hit.

    If he wears #38, he should be completely indistinguishable from Daniael Manning. In Manning 12, just add dreadlocks to Manning and you're done.

  • In reply to Nagurski:

    He actually listened to us, omg JA actually listened to us! The safety position was a question mark at best, at least Meriweather provides a veteran option back there. Now extend Matty damn it!

  • in other news: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/03/cedric-benson-already-is-out-of-jai/

  • Ozzie is the only one on the list that I would consider.

  • In reply to Viva:



  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ok, now that the shock has worn off... you cannot be serious viva. It's simply not plausible.

    You would rather have angelo over the pack's man (and his entire personnel group... did I forget to mention that part?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's like asking me if I would prefer Rodgers over Cutler, or Lombardi over Hallas, and expect an unbiased response...

  • In reply to Viva:

    Correct answer Viva. I like it.

    "Rodgers or Cutler?" It's a trick question ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here's where I strongly disagree with you MB. No other GM could have gotten us to the big dance with the picks Jerra made leading up the the Super Bowl. That alone makes him the guttiest GM in the NFL. Just about every other GM addresses needs within a year of recognizing them but Jerra never takes the obvious path to success. I commend Jerra for his willingness to embrace a losing strategy with such vigor and enthusiasm and I look forward to almost winning a Super Bowl once or twice more in my lifetime.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Haha, you think JA will last as the Bears GM for the rest of your lifetime? You know what? I would be happy with that, because the only way that could possibly happen is with multiple regular SB appearances and wins.

    Nobody lasts that long, and certainly not if they are going to SB only once or twice in 50 years. Hahaha...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Ha, you liked that? I just like to have fun at Jerry's expense from time to time. He makes a good pinata for frustrated fans. I still think he's made some very shrewd moves over the years and you've got to admit he is a survivalist. I can't be the only one that's noticed how Jerry tosses Bears fans a bone here or there when he get's the faithful unsettled..

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Yeah, I did like it. I laughed a good bit reading that. Thanks Crown.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    ha ha.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I can't think of a single shrewd move Angela's made BD. We paid through the nose for Cutler, I mean Joe Montana paid ...

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Yet you said your grandmother could have made the trade. So which is it? The Broncs were so desperate for Orton that they would have made the trade without the 2 #1 picks thrown in? Or that JA found a way to get the deal done, despite all the other teams interested in Cutler?

    You can't have your cake and eat it too. Pick one, and stick with it. Nobody is saying JA is god (well... no, not even Viva, heh), but does every single comment here seriously have to end in a JA insult?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Cutler has been worth every penny. I'm with Michael on this; JA has his faults but it gets a little ridiculous. He's made some huge acquisitions over the past couple of year.
    Anyone want to re-do the Peppers signing, the Cutler trade, dropping Butter, Vasher, etc? He gets a pretty good amount of this stuff right, sometimes, I will bet you, in spite of the coaching staff, not because.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:


  • O.K.........Boys and Girls been gone since Thurs game and we now have our 2011 Bears:

    1. I was surprised that "Glitchy" still had a little in him to get Merri!
    2. So long Dez...no matter if you wear another jersey you will always be a BEAR to the core...blessings and bright horizon's bro!
    3. Come on Briggy's
    4. Double Deuce play like you can and you will be $$$$$
    5. I'm actually feeling better this year than last...I'm thinking as Waddle we win the Division FUCK THE FUDGPECKER'S in the season and go to the BIG DANCE!!!!!

    YOUR 2011 BEARS:
    Quarterbacks (3): Jay Cutler, Nathan Enderle, Caleb Hanie

    Running backs (3): Marion Barber, Kahlil Bell, Matt Forte

    Fullbacks (1): Will Ta’ufo’ou

    Wide receivers (6): Earl Bennett, Devin Hester, Sam Hurd, Johnny Knox, Dane Sanzenbacher, Roy Williams

    Tight ends (3): Kyle Adams, Kellen Davis, Matt Spaeth

    Offensive linemen (8): Gabe Carimi, Roberto Garza, Lance Louis, Frank Omiyale, Chris Spencer, J’Marcus Webb, Chris Williams, Edwin Williams

    Defensive linemen (10): Anthony Adams, Mario Addison, Israel Idonije, Henry Melton, Amobi Okoye, Stephen Paea, Julius Peppers, Nick Reed, Matt Toeaina, Corey Wootton

    Linebackers (5): Lance Briggs, Dom DeCicco, Brian Iwuh, Nick Roach, Brian Urlacher

    Cornerbacks (6): Zackary Bowman, Corey Graham, Tim Jennings, D.J. Moore, Joshua Moore, Charles Tillman

    Safeties (5): Chris Conte, Chris Harris, Craig Steltz, Winston Venable, Major Wright

    Specialists (3): Robbie Gould, Patrick Mannelly, Adam Podlesh

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Which Safety takes the hit with the signing of Meriweather?

  • I'm so glad our fearless leader's didn't pull the trigger on Mays and waited for a player like Merriweather to become available. Still, we don't know if there are any surprises concerning him, lets just hope he's not under investigation for knocking over grandma crossing the street.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    And then starring in a rap video bragging about it.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Why couldn't we do both?

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    Because that's not how JA operates and signing Mays would have allowed him to convince himself that we were "all set" resulting in letting the Vikes or Lions signing him.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Or just about any GM for that matter...

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    But did he wrap up on the grandma tackle?

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    exactly mang

  • "In October 2006 while still at Miami, he was part of an on-field fight with several Florida International players.

    About three months earlier, he fired a gun at an assailant who had shot Miami backup safety Willie Cooper outside the house Cooper shared with Meriweather and another teammate, police said. Meriweather wasn't charged and police said he used the gun legally."


    I read that he stomped on several players that were on the ground during that fight.

    Sounds like the kind of guy I wouldn't want to date my daughter but would want having my back in a fight. Or crushing people on a football field.

  • Well, this might be old news to some of you guys but Dan LeFevour was cut by the Bengals. And another old Bear, Justin Gage, lost his gig with the Titans....

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    old Bears are falling like flies...

    Tharris, Nasher, Gage, Alex Brown, Ced Benson (for being Ced), LeFevour,

    :I like LeFevour, much more than Enderle cuz the former can move. It's amazing, but almost HALF of the teams are only going with 2 qbs due to t he new rule, so while we might be in deep doo-doo if our 2qbs go down, it won't be as badly as half the other teams.

    LeFevour can at leas come in on wild-cat packages, which would be a nice twist from time to time (in meaningless games). Just something to give the other team to think about.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Alfalfa got cut by the Colts or Bengals as well ...

  • MB30, no on Colbert. I think it's a bit too early to tell on Thompson.

    My initial gut feel on AJ Smith is no also -- he has plenty of hits and misses too, and is even more of an arrogant prick than JA to boot. At least JA tries to explain himself to the fans. Letting Brees walk, firing Schotty, hiring Norv, ... I really don't think he's an obvious upgrade.

    Newsome actually has some cred. I'd have to think about that one. Although I'm sure my perception of him is colored by their SB win in 2000, which came before he was GM, he seems to have done a good job since then.

    So actually I guess my answer is basically the same as Viva's...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Oh and Z... I would definitely take Ron Wolf over JA, that one I'm pretty sure of.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Ron Wolf taught the Packers how to win again. JA definitely has a ways to go in that department.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Hmmm, and looking more into Colbert, maybe he deserves more credit for the Steelers success this decade than I thought. The player evaluation system they use is the same as he and Ron Hughes brought over from Detroit.

    But I do have to ask, if that system was so good... then why did Detroit win only 1 playoff game in the 10 years Colbert was Director of Pro Personnel there (1990-1999)? And why did Detroit not even make the playoffs at all in the other 7 years Hughes was Director of Pro Personnel (1984-1989) or Director of Player Personnel (2000)? Over 17 years of that system, they garned 5 playoff appearances and exactly 1 win. And on top of that (and I know Millen was terrible) but seriously, none of those players carried over to help the Lions in following years? That is not a good track record...

    So is it more likely that that exact same system suddenly started working fantastically well after 17 years... or that the influence of Rooney and Cowher and Tomlin, and perhaps a little dash of luck, was more responsible? I'd have to lean towards the latter, given the evidence.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Wayne Fontes?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Most of those playoff appearances (and their only win) happened under Fontes. If anything he was their best coach during those 17 years.

    Anyway I'm not saying the guy is a deadbeat. Just casting a shadow of doubt that he'd be a slam dunk. Tell you what, if he gets another productive 5 years to balance out the previous bad 17... I'd be willing to say he's clearly better.

    For example, Belichick has completely overshadowed his first stint with his NE track record. He's shown success for more than twice as long as his period of failure. So I think waiting for 17 good years is only fair for Colbert and Hughes, particularly when you consider that Colbert didn't even get the title of GM until a few days ago -- calling into question if and when final authority even truly rested with him.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    That's debatable - Bobby Ross was no slouch, and Fontes had a much longer leash, better personnel, and Barry Sanders in his prime years.
    Ross' also has a much better CV beyond the Lions than Fontes ever did.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    True enough, although my point wasn't so much about how good/bad Fontes was. Clearly Colbert's (and Hughes's) record wasn't too shiny regardless.

    Two of Ross's seasons were with Colbert & Hughes too, and a third with just Hughes in charge. They failed to win a playoff game too. And none of the talent carried over after that to any playoff appearances or even winning seasons. That's not the hallmark of a strongly built roster.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    The Fontes comment was supposed to be funny, Michael.
    But I know what you are saying.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh, ha. Guess I was too tired to catch that. Ok, I'm laughing now.

  • Read the last thread, read this thread earlier under "I told you so".

    I KNEW we were going to sign a "veteran" safety which everyone would want, now we have Merriweather. Belicheck and Angelo are actually friends (as much of a friend as Billichick can have), maybe he threw his old pal a bone? This is the very definition of homering into a player and what I was talking about how J.A. is gambling on the side of cheap, and in this instance, he hit 21 when dealer was showing a king, turned his card over, and hit a 9.

    For the record, I'm not J.A. I'm just starting to think like him like Edward Norton in Red Dragon - and let me tell you, it's a scary place.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Hahaha. Awesome 85. I wasn't doubting that that might happen -- well maybe a little ;) -- just that would somehow happen after Week 2. Although I guess now Jeff's prediction might actually work -- if Meri is initially slotted as a backup, he could get promoted after the starters falter in the Saints game. Hmmm, crafty you two.

    So anyone know who they've cut to make room for Meri?

  • In reply to Michael L:

    According to the Official site,

    "The Bears do not have to make a corresponding roster move to make room for Meriweather until he officially signs his contract."

    So I guess he hasn't "officially" signed yet, but my guess will be they let go of Steltz.

    They have C.Harris, Major, Conte,Veneble and now Meri. I seriously doubt they carry 6 safeties, even though Steltz has been a SP staple. Veneable is a more athletic younger Steltz type player I guess is the rationale.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    You think so? Yeah, hmmm, it's hard to tell. They may IR redshirt Conte too if his head injury is serious. I guess it depends on what Toub thinks of Venable.

    I could see them carrying 6 safeties temporarily as they see how the injury situation develops, particularly since they still have only 5 LBs. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of Addison and Reed let go at some point too, depending on who else becomes available and which players start getting back on the field...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    In this defense, at least hypothetically, could a defensive end serve as a backup linebacker?

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Yeah, I think someone mentioned turning Reed into a LB because of his motor and smallish frame as DE, but not LB, which is an intriguing idea.

    I'm always a little weary of converting a DE into a LB - totally different skill set in my mind, it's much easier converting a 3-4 LB into a DE (like Gholston) than the other way around (don't believe, try doing it in Madden)

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Hypothetically yes, but realistically probably not. Unlike in a 3-4 defense where you can basically make one of the OLBs a dedicated rusher, any 4-3 OLB is going to have coverage responsibilities most of the time.

    Most college DEs won't have much experience playing in space and will have spent most of their training working on leverage and line moves... and not on making drops, planting, reading flow, breaking on balls, and coverage techniques and calls. Still, it's always possible, and a predominantly zone coverage scheme means maybe you could bring a guy up to speed who has never spent a minute in the LB meeting room.

    Longer term though, you could turn a guy like that into a project. But even if he learned both positions, you probably wouldn't have him be anything but a backup to a backup at one of them. If he's a DE you'll make him bulk up, if he's a LB he'll be too light to play on the line except situationally.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    If Conte's head injury is so serious that he's put on IR, that would NOT be good for a young safety.

    I think you can B.S. other injuries to pretty much red shirt on IR, but a head injury, esp in this concussion concerned league, I don't we would be able to get away with that

    The Bears do have a bit of a small dilemma though. Toub has already lost a lot of SP team players, and losing Steltz would be another kick in the crotch.

    However, J.A. is not about to make himself look like an idiot (voluntarily) by stashing his 3rd round pick into the practice squad only to have another Safety depleted team scoop him up.

    Maybe Reed (or Addison) does get the axe, like you said, because of this, even though Marinelli likes both.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Well, you can IR for any injury reason at all, even though the spirit of the rule is for significant ones. Really though it's a simple trade-off, if a player will miss X weeks and not losing a roster spot for X weeks is more important than having the player available the rest of the season, then you IR.

    It doesn't matter if it's an ACL, a hernia, a sore thumb, the flu, migraines, or a concussion. Why would it be bad press to do it with a concussion? Heck, they did it to Hillenmeyer last year. They basically said "here, take the whole season to get better" which if anything is good PR.

    Call it a gut feeling, but I think Reed made a bigger impression on Marinelli the last game than Addison did. If they feel like Wootton is coming along, Addison might be first to go.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Hillenmeyer retired! lol

    Hey, if we can B.S. our way and get Conte on the I.R. for "head trauma" and keep Steltz, Venable, Merri, and Harris, I'm all for it.

    THIS year, Stetlz is sorely needed to maintain some SP teams stability.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    He did retire, but not before he got put on IR right before Game 1 last year -- er, actually he might've dressed for Game 1, been held out of the game, and then put on IR afterwards.

    After the season he decided not to return to playing, and then retired.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Just be thankful Bellicheat has so much talent on the roster that he has to toss out pro bowlers to make room for younger ones!

  • Don't forget to set your DVR's for Wednesday September 7th @ 8PM-9PM you dumb shit bear fans!


    January 23rd 2011


  • In reply to January23rd2011:

    The only reason you felt the need to visit is because you know we just signed a player that will give Pepper's and Wooten more time to do get to your QB. It's cool, I'm flattered you respect our team so much as to follow our blog.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I have respect for the bears, just not majority of their fan base.


    January 23rd 2011

  • In reply to January23rd2011:

    There in lies the conundrum. Bears fans feel the same way about the cheese mold.

  • In reply to January23rd2011:

    Wow, that's quite an admission. Actually that raises my estimation of you by quite a bit. I forget -- are you phrozen or cheesy or someone else?

    I'm amused too that you identify yourself more by a Bears event than a solely Packers event (winning the SB). That's cool though. One was a bigger accomplishment, I agree.

    Anyway, I'm sure your attitude could be flip-flopped and applied to many Bears fans as well. But concentrating on the worst elements of the fan base of either team isn't really representative. Personally I find the group here a refreshing reprieve from the MSM and all the negativity that flows from there. This isn't the group of fans that's deserving of taunting and shit-slinging.

    If you really meant what you said, then I hope you enjoy the 2 (or 3) games we'll have this year. They should be good ones. See you then...

  • In reply to January23rd2011:

    I just cannot wait to kick your ass twice this year .....

  • It's funny how opinions change. Last year, early in the season, Packer fans were screaming for Ted Thompson's head. Then they go 10-6, sneak into the playoffs, and go on a roll. Now he's a genius. We always hear about their offense, but it was their D that won them the Super Bowl. Thompson's best moves were drafting Raji and Matthews in 2009, and arguably his best move was getting Dom Capers as Defensive Coordinator. It doesn't hurt having Charles Woodson either. Capers utilizes him masterfully.
    Why am I writing about the Packers? Let's kick their ass this year.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Indeed. That's why I said it's too early to tell with him. Subjectivity and better judgment goes out the window after a SB win. If tie-breakers hadn't gone their way and they don't make the playoffs last year, then how would everyone feel about him?

    After another 3-4 years, then maybe a reasonably objective evaluation can be made.... Meanwhile I ain't pining for him.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    The Packers are good, no shame in admitting that. It's their douchebag fans that come on here acting like 2yr olds that gives me reason for concern. Has anyone tested their drinking water to make sure it's safe to drink?

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    No, it's good. 100% piss.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:


  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I agree that their is a large faction of fickle Packer fans, but that's the case with every pro franchise in sports(see ultra douche bag MB30SD on this very blog). Our fan base is no different than any other in the greater scheme of things.

    I would address the rest of your turd post, but it would be pointless to drop knowledge on deaf ears.


    January 23rd 2011


  • In reply to January23rd2011:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Some excellent footage of MB at work on Pack fatties


  • Been off grid couple days, glad to see we picked up Meriweather for help at S. I heard from a good buddy who lives in Boston and is a total Pats homer. He said Meri is an enforcer and his physical style will be missed since he delivers death blow hits to receivers regularly. His man coverage is so-so, but makes up with key picks and ability to light-up WRs on deep slants. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Meri delivering a Todd Heap hit to Greg Jennings, except of course Pep ripping off Rodgers head. Fuck all the smack about how great of a talent evaluator the Hoodie is, he cut Robbie Gould and I don't think the Pats have a single draft pick left from 2007 now that Meri is gone.

  • RIP Leroy Selmon. I know most of you guys never saw him play, but damn he was a player. Bucs losing game after game, Selmon reaping havoc it seemed like every play. He looked unblockable. He was truly a Hall of Famer.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Those were the days Murph.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Selmon was to The Bucs as WP was for us in the 70's...he "F"ing carried the team on his shoulders and never bitched one second.


    R.I.P. #63

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    How often do you see a guy beat a double team + back chip, and still hit the QB?

    Did I say hit? I meant flatten.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    Yeah, he was a player.

    Another ex-NFLer dies young. Leroy was 56.

  • in response to the cheese troll, I offer the following definition of a Packer fan, as verbatim from the Websters New World Dictionary:
    Smegma: "a cheeselike, foul-smelling sebaceous secretion that accumulates under the foreskin or around the clitoris."
    As you can see, this definition of a Packer fan covers both genders.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    I laud you post, Guinness. But please remain vigilant in your method, so as to avoid becoming a feeder of trolls.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:


  • Signed to the Practice Squad:

    Anthony Walters (S) practice squad addition.
    Patrick Trahan (LB) practice squad addition.
    Andre Smith (TE) practice squad addition.
    Jordan Miller (DT) practice squad addition.
    Levi Horn (T) practice squad addition.
    Ricky Henry (G) practice squad addition.
    Kris Adams (WR) practice squad addition.

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    WTF? Levi is our backup RG !

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Was. They only keep 3 backup O linemen. In this case, it was C Spencer, G E.Williams, T Omiyale.

    They always sign some O linemen to the P squad to run with the #2s though. In this case, T/G Horn and G Henry.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    But, but where will Asiata's tits sign?

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Omelette! Hanging around like a bad smell. Horn is 6'7, we could have held him on the roster to act as swing guard/tackle. I don't imagine there would have been a wild rush to sign the omelette from the PS ...

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Omiyale isn't eligible for the P squad. Anyway I think Tice likes Horn, but that doesn't mean he thinks he's ready to come in a game yet. Or it just means he likes Edwin Williams more at G, and Omiyale more at T.

  • Didn't take long:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    They will make him the true 3rd down back that gets a lot of flat work - that's what he's good at. He also pass blocks okay, and the Cards need to keep Kolb upright

  • I just got back from a bbq and i can't believe one of your motherfuckers haven't posted this yet.

    Yeah, the first rapper is Brandon fucking Meriweather. This guy is going to either become a cult classic in this town or one of the biggest jokes ever.


    Looks like the Bears just got a little thuggish, ruggish motherfuckin bone.

  • come on across the middle MR. Jennings it's safe....hee hee...it won't be Manning dragging you down after a great catch. It will be fucking puff daddy himself knocking your ass out and getting fined like a motherfucker.

  • Puff daddy. I like it. Puff daddy, peanut and pringles in the backfield, spelled by Hitman Harris. The Gran Torino is parked up.

  • Ah, that's what all the "VIP swole" comments on the story were all about.

    I actually kind of dig the song, it's catchy.

  • Man, I gotzta translate

    Me and my fucking dog we riding into the night
    We got the VIP on this roll
    Gucci shoes on - check
    Gucci sails on - check
    Gucci jeans on - check
    Black V neck I got my black diamonds on
    You hoes must be trippin, you hoes must be crazy

    I got some yoms wif it
    I got some bad bitches
    So watch yo ho, nigga
    Cause she might be leavin with me

    I asked her what's she drankin
    She said a shot a' Patrone
    If I take it though
    you might just take me home

    She asked me who am I
    She said I must be famous
    Come and hop in my car
    Do you know what time it is
    its head down ass up
    thats the way i like it

    i like to fuck
    (yeah daddy I like it rough)

    Me and my dawgs on the prowl tonight
    We lookin for a bitch in the crowd tonight
    My and my dawgs we poppin bottles and ridin tonight
    We got the VIP on slow
    We on the prowl tonight

    We walkin through the club
    We rollin we sick of this
    Man now this shit be tight
    We be-boppin the VIP
    We rollin we smokin weed we throwin down

    She said whats your name
    Man can I take my picture wif ya
    Fuck the bad bitch another rack of hoes
    She lookin like a mah-del
    Do you think she swallow?
    Man cause if she don't then
    Now I think we just might have a problem


    Take a couple shots of straight Patrone
    lookin for some bad bitches
    running in the city that itches
    rollin through the club
    couple of leathers (?)
    smokin a swisher
    pocket the money
    in the vip swaggin

    so many hoes i cant remember but she says that she knows me
    thats ok bitch back that ass up on me
    dont know your name dont know your face
    that club chuckin the freight
    closin at three in the morning


    It's like translating shakespeare into italian. so beautiful.

    What we got here is....

    Maurice Douglas

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i think that song should be playing softly in the background of this blog at all times.

  • ..or 'insane in the membrane' .....

  • Um... no thanks.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    well, can we at least play it after he has an interception or something? that song is so ridiculous that it has to be played or incorporated into Game Day Live or before kickoffs or something. you couldn't write this better in a movie script.
    It's not like he was acting like this a couple of years ago and then grew up. He released this single in MAY. I have tears in my eyes i'm laughing so hard.
    i played it for my wife and she just gave me this look like , "you have got to be joking" and then busted out laughing.

  • In reply to gpldan:


    you have to make a shirt. by god you have to make a shirt.

  • It's Captain Morgan!

  • Pimp of the year? Flyguy ? The Evans Midgets?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks, but no thanks.

  • Ahhh... Packer fans


  • I was looking up a video to see if there was a good Brandon Meriweather one but found this instead and all i said to myself is that Ed Reed is awesome.


  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZKgUIPGVrQ&NR=1

    A little Hester to prime your pump. The Falcons pussy ass owner can't stop Devin from taking it from the back of the endzone and on every punt no matter how many rules they jam through.

  • I never get tired of watching Hillenmeyer crush those two Giants on that missed field goal return (which, like the SB return, is not counted in the record book).

  • Sorry guys, I actually have been trying to comment but this new site has screwed me over.

    Our new safety is here to for us to decide two things

    1.Do we want Meriweather or Harris next year?

    2.Or is Major Wright a " could it be ?!" another bust?

    I do not believe Major is a bust but he just needs time to learn and realize that you can't just blast people unless you know for sure you not going to whiff on them.

    I wanted to talk about the Dabearsblog meeting up would be sweet, I am just not going to wear my costume to this bar, and yes I am old enough to go into a bar. IF we all want to go to a game that would be sweet!! And I will wear my costume then and get us all on TV.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Is he just a bust or a MAJOR bust?

    If they keep him TWO seasons too long can we then say that "Two wrongs make a Wright"?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The first wrong being Alfalfalalfa

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Hey Artoo, 'sup? Select all and copy, my young Padawan. Ctrl + A, Ctrl + C is your friend.

    1. I'll take Mr '2 Probowls in the last 2 years', swapping in CH for the FS on running downs.

    2. Bitch needs to forget the highlight reel and lay the wood only when laying the wood is an acceptable aside/option in the process of making the tackle. It says in the bible : "Thou shalt maketh the tackle first. Bitch."

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    The Wrapture?

  • In reply to Z Bearz:

    Spoteth oneth.

  • Meriweather has nothing on Ron-ron:

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh man, please please make this play when you start NBA2k12

  • On the other hand, he tackles better than this guy did:

    Coverage skills are a different matter.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No clever links. Deion's daughter - halfway through this vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfafDkmuTSg&feature=related


  • Weren't the Bears recently sniffing around the now released Mr. Maybin to bloster the linebacking corps?

  • Fort Bend County authorities are investigating a suspected drowning at the home of Houston Texans' defensive end Antonio Smith.


  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    We can only hope and pray it wasn't Frank Omelette found face down in the pool with his anal passage brutalised and a suicide note found conveniently nearby in someone else's handwriting ...


  • A comment reminded me of the Pats/Packers game last year; watched it the night before the Bears-Vikings game at TCF Stadium.
    He was not getting rave reviews.
    But the m-fer can rap!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBHP - all i know is that he has made 2 pro-bowls and his name is not Craig Steltz or Chris Conte. That is pretty much all i needed to know at this point.

  • Sweet hat. And yes to everything you said.

  • http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821df86a/article/nfl-division-power-rankings-nfc-north-tops-the-list?module=HP11_hot_topics

    I know it's Michael Lombardi, but it's nice to see someone else say we have the best division in the NFL.

  • I am liking Brandon Meriweather. I am liking him a lot.


  • Never get tired of these. A multi-part sit-down interview with Sweetness.

  • I think this is Deion's daughter at 2:07 with these prime lines:

    It's bree bree and my super head is proper
    I be sewing ham like my last name is topper
    niggas on my clit cause i taste like kaybo
    talkin like a bitch pretty bitch fuzzy navel
    i dont give a fuck
    do you wanna fuck?
    i'm cookin in the chevy while you cookin in the truck
    so let that boy cook
    let that boy cook
    sexy like a crook with one foot in the hook
    so show me the madness
    if you swaggin you can have this
    cook like martha stewart
    but my ass is steady clappin
    who wants a steak?
    t-bone on my plate
    i know your stomach empty
    but my krew already ate

    Wow, she's like Grace Kelly with better dance moves .

  • http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-waive-cb-joshua-moore-20110905,0,7835518.story

    i told you this guy fucking sucked. Another wasted pick. 2 reps at 225lbs at the combine. I did that as a freshman in highschool.

  • Does anyone else think Peyton Manning is going to miss significant time this year and that this might be career threatening injury?

  • Yes and yes.

    Reports say strength in his triceps has "plateaued" and doctors have order him to stop throwing for now.

    Translation: He currently lacks the arm strength to make NFL throws and it ain't gettin' any better at this time.

    If I'm a Colt fan I am very concerned.

  • I can only hope so .....

  • Hey Irish, was curious if you had a response to my and Al's comments above:



    I'm not saying you have to like the current leadership, but let's cool it for a bit and try to enjoy the season eh? GO BEARS!!!

  • Certainly do Michael.

    If we had a roster worth a damn last year we were in the SB. That's my point. I'm actually glad Cutler left the game because he was sucking big style. I thought Hanie had a pretty good game by comparison, and why he wasn't in there when Cutler went down is a mystery. But then - as was the problem for us on offense all season - there was nobody open to throw to, because our receivers were terrible, an endemic problem since the Cutler trade. Angela finally gets a QB (overpaying for him in the process) but had neither protection nor targets for him. Not only did we (and still do) lack depth, but our starters just weren't very good. We were really, really, really luckywith injuries last year. If I'm not mistaken we were in fact the healthiest team in the NFL. Soi the fact that we got to the NFC championship is directly attributable to that very salient point alone. We kinda sucked last year. We definitely sucked early in the season on offense. That's just not debatable. If we had an NFL caliber receiver (one that does not resemble a smurf in any way shape or form) then we're in the SB. We'd get our asses kicked in that SB, granted, but we'd be there at least.

    We got to the Halas trophy game IN SPITE of Jerry Angelo, not because of him. I would further add we may very well have won it all under Kyle Orton, with two well chosen first rounders, and a third rounder beefing up our roster. Therein is the catch 22. Angela makes the draft choices.

    Instead .... we coughed up the Halas trophy AT Soldier Field ... to the Green Bay fkn Packers. And if that ain't a kick in the rocks I don't know what is. Not only do I not like Angelo - I vehemently despise him, and regret the cancer that he is to my team (along with Ted Philips, who must take full responsibility for not firing the man who is pissing away our drafts year after year).

    When I used to frequent the Trib's blog, my raison d'etre was posting the falalcy of this man's continued employment at Halas Hall. I grew weary of it, as it is singularly depressing pointing out the obviousness of his complete failure as a GM.

    This last draft is pretty safely a busted draft. Carimi was a no-brainer pick. He gets picked as the auto-pick even if you're not there if you want to talk fantasy. Paea? Conte? Enderle? Need I go on?

    The 2008 draft gave us Forte and Earl Bennett - a solid, but not amazing receiver by any standards ... plus a bunch of busts, none more significant than our first round bust in Chris Williams - possibly the weakest link on ouer line right now, and playing the guard position - not our future left tackle as he should be as our 1st rounder. Look at Angela's drafts from 2009 onwards (due to space, but go back through every draft and it's a similar story) :


    3rd Round: Jarron Gilbert - DT San Jose State Bust
    3rd Round: Juaquin Iglesias - WR Oklahoma Bust
    4th Round: Henry Melton - DE Texas May be something
    4th Round: D.J. Moore - CB Vanderbilt Jury's still out on this boy
    5th Round: Johnny Knox - WR Abilene Christian Jury's still out on this boy
    5th Round: Marcus Freeman - OLB Ohio State Bust
    6th Round: Al Afalava - S Oregon State Bust
    7th Round: Lance Louis - OG San Diego State Jury's out on this boy
    7th Round: Derek Kinder - WR Pittsburgh Bust


    Round: 3, Major Wright, S, Florida - can't tackle
    Round: 4, Corey Wootton, DE May be something
    Round: 5, Joshua Moore, CB, Bust
    Round: 6, Dan LeFevour, QB, Bust
    Round: 7, J'Marcus Webb, OT Jury's out on this boy - worst RT in the NFL last year, and that's official it's not an opinion.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Look, I'm not really going to argue the finer points of JA's resume. This ain't my battle. On that I'll just say that looking back 2 drafts and critiquing a bunch of 3rd and 4th rounders is pretty pointless. No 3rd round pick is a sure thing, or even close, let alone the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounders you're calling busts. Historically 2nd rounders are 50-50 propositions, and it only goes downhill from there.

    As for our shitty roster last year, as you seem to think it was, I think you have to cut some slack on the offense. First year, and it's clear Cutler and the rest hadn't mastered it to the level needed. Granted a big part of that was the lack of confidence in the OL. In any case, I think you might be surprised this year by the receivers -- I don't think they are as bad as you say, and I have a feeling they'll show it this year.

    Also while I will grant that Cutler did not play well in the NFC title game, but the injury didn't save him -- the injury is why he was sucking. He played injured almost the entire 2nd quarter -- that's why he missed open receivers for TDs and underthrew that pick to Williams. Roy broke down the exact play where Cutler got injured.

    I will just agree to disagree on a big-time WR being the reason they didn't advance to the SB. Also I disagree that they would have lost. Smith's squads have always played Pittsburgh tough, and where they've struggled with is defending a big bruising running attack in the elements -- something PIT did not have last year.

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