Chicago Bears at New Orleans Saints Game Preview

Chicago Bears at New Orleans Saints Game Preview

1-0.  1/3 of the toughest leg of the 2011 schedule in the books.  Can the Bears improve on their terrific Week One effort and come home to face the Packers undefeated?  I think so.


  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • The Saints are missing Marques Colston.  Colston is the kind of big, physical receiver that easily slides into the space against our zone and is capable of having a 10 or 11 catch game.  Without him they will need to be reliant on Henderson or Meachem to pick up the slack and they are simply not the same caliber.
  • The Saints are missing Will Smith.  Smith is their best edge rusher and his absence will force defensive coordinator Gregg Williams to dial up more blitzes than he'd probably want to.  If Williams commits too many men to his blitz packages the quick out and screen will be even more effective than they were a week ago.
  • New Orleans right tackle Zach Strief had his hands full with Clay Matthews coming off the edge in Week One.  It doesn't get easier for him this this week.  I expect the Bears to park Julius Peppers over Strief all game long and I expect to Drew Brees to feel why.
  • Here are the Saints advantages as I see them:  (1) Drew Brees does not expect to open the season with two consecutive losses. (2) Jimmy Graham is a fast, durable tight end and should be able to have a pretty good day against the LoveRod. (3) The game is being played in a dome so I expect Devin Hester to be somewhat nullified on kickoff returns by touchbacks.
  • I don't, however, see the dome turf as an advantage for the home team.  These Bears, whether traditionalists want to admit it or not, are built to play on turf.  They are fast at almost every position and they want their receivers running longer-type routes and making quick cuts.  I think the Bears offense will improve inside the dome.
  • The Brian Urlacher factor.  Players being flung onto the football field by an emotional catapult can go either way but I think Urlacher will use the passing of his mother this week to do best what he does best: play linebacker.  I think the other fellas who play on the Bears defense will rally behind him.
  • I think Jay Cutler is going to be one of the five best quarterbacks in the league this year and I think he's going to make a big statement Sunday.

Chicago Bears 34, New Orleans Saints 21

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  • Bears 27, Saints 19.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Bears 20, Saints 13

  • The offensive line is going to be tested big time in Neawlins. If the line and the RBs can pick up the blitzes and keep Jay upright long enough for him to make plays, the Bears have a decent shot at a huge road win. The Saints D coordinator Greg Williams is known for dialing up all sorts of crazy blitzes, so communication at the line of scrimmage is certain to be a focus this week in practice. Hopefully the unit will practice with artificial crowd noise because the Super dome is going to be loud as hell come Sunday. Jay is going to need to be on the same page as his WRs when NO brings house and the hot route adjustments come into play. Huge test this week on both sides of the ball. Is it Sunday yet?

  • In reply to Shady:

    nothing shuts a crowd up like a 65 yard screen TD followed by a 3 and out with Brees hitting the turf twice followed like a punt to Hester on fucking turf.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    like? i meant "by"

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    In reply to Gucci Mang:

    Haaa wuz up bears fans yaw got beat down its funny all the scores u said toooo bad tge saints put on another display of ass beatin dumbadses

  • Bears are 7 point dogs in this game, 12/5 without the spread. That's some big-ass odds right there.

    Reasons we can make a mockery of those odds and get rich :

    1. Beating the Saints is our thing.

    2. They got no kind of push on Rodgers last week.

    3. They're missing Jada Pinkett, Colston and possibly Lance Moore(?). But that still leaves them with deep threat Devery Henderson and Robert Meachem, Graham, and those backs.

    4. If we're only rushing four (and we know Kreutz is caving on every play), then we can get into Brees' face lickity split - an with seven back in coverage, I foresee problems for the little munchkin.

    5. Isn't their kicker injured? So if we give up the yards, as we do, they'll mostly be looking for FGs with a backup kicker.

    6. With their no-push DL, GW will be forced to send dem-saints-go-marching-in. Cutler dinks it out to Forte or Davis and that's all she wrote, nobody home.

    7. If Urlacher plays, then it's lights out, regardless of what kind of display Carimi, Webb and Spencer put up. If not, all bets are off.

    8. Is Barber back? We can/should be running as often as possible : to keep their offense off the field, and tire out that raggle-taggle defense they have ; to get the most out of our O-line. I was up on a SB Nation's Saints blog, and their fans are really worried about their D. Not so their offense. They also seem to be under the impression that the Falcons stink this year, and that's why we trounced them, so they're not so worried about our D.

    Au contraire mes amis, au contraire .... les faucons sont magnifique mais les ours sont meilleurs ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Oops ..... 9. We should be better on a faster surface.

    Balance? Reasons we might justify being underdogs ...

    1. If Urlacher is missing, do we ever win?

    2. Brees just outscores us plain and simple. We sit back and give them the underneath stuff, which he can take advantage of as well as anyone in the league. They keep the ball for long periods and rack up the points. When we do get the ball back, we're hindered by Webb/Carimi/Spencer doing stupid stuff and killing drives.

    3. J'Marcus Webb is our Left Tackle.

    4. Our starting left fucking tackle.

    5. Without RW the field shrinks again. More Spaeth/Davis double TE sets please Mike.

    12/5 no spread is a risk I'll have to take, but taking the Bears +7 would be a sweet bet along with BAL and NYG. There's jsut no value with NYJ, DET or GB ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    On your first #5, if their kicker is out, maybe we have better chance for Hester to bring the ball out on KO returns?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I'd just be happy that if it's a close game and they drag him out to kick a 50 yarder to win it, then the guy will be filling his pantaloons with Hershey sauce.

  • 34 - 21 sounds about right to me. The Saints may get 28 even, but I doubt it. I think if Brian plays this Sunday he plays the game of his life. If he doesn't, I think the team will play an inspired game on his behalf.

    The only thing that worries me is that Jay already has trouble hearing that little clock in his head go off. It will be really load in the dome on Sunday, so we need to quiet them down early with a few scores right out of the box. So Jay, buddy, if you're reading this... Please. If you get to "one thousand three" and no one is open, dump it off or throw it away.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    1. I'd say we have no defense if Brian isn't there.

    2. 1003 .... no one open ..... run forrest run !

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    That's the conventional wisdom for sure. Something tells me that will not be the case this time.

    I said above there was one thing that worries. There are really two. It's not the D. The O-Line is gonna have a much tougher time against the Saints pass rush than the had at home against the birds.

    So like I said, get rid of it quickly, and run the freakin ball. We'll be on top when the fat lady sings.

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:

    I hope so Mike, I don't see how they beat us without a defense. Apparently the Saints don't have a pass rush according to their fans. Atlanta's offense is pretty good and we just closed them down. Forcing them short all the time and we'll hopefully get those takeaways. Maybe Marinelli has something up his sleeve for Brees? Lach said we hadn't seen anything yet ......

  • Oh yeah,and Mr. Martz, use the freaking running game!

  • In reply to MikeV in OR:


  • One single thing we need to do to win.

    Harass brees. Period.

    We do that and don't give him time to sit back and pick us apart, we will win comfortable. We give that dude time to do what he wants and it's going to be a air war.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


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  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think the key to winning this game is, when the clock ticks to zero, having more points than those guys.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I think that would probably do it. And automatic Gould might be the one that tacks on the last few ...

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that's two dave... that's two....

  • pat kerwin was yakkin on espn's miller&moulton's local radio show today as i got in the car after work

    i only heard him say this one stat and he was on to another game

    when forte catches 6 or more passes the bears are 2 and 7
    so what ......
    that was then and this is now....stats are indicators .... but we are still suffering from old memories inside the pundits coconuts

    things have changed and this team does not need mat all the time....cutler has so many options to believe in; and he knows it.

    it will be tough to paste a 2nd loss on this bunch; they will be hungry;
    but; we have a team that will be difficult to match up against as long as we stay error free in the 1st half; and keep the d on the sideline with sustained drives

    that will be the x factor that opposing offenses have not figured out the past our d was on the field for long periods during games because of 3 and outs by our O
    now they will have the opportunity to play stronger into the 4th qtr

    BEAR DOWN AND wear them down...

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    Here's the only stat that matters - Cutty is 22-0 when his QB rating > 100. Can the Saints drop that rating? Not based on last week's performance.

    No Huddle discuss Cutler, and Neon goes beep-beep into reverse :

  • There Bears very well may go up 21-0 on the Saints before halftime but unlike the Packers, the Bears D will not let them back in the game.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Counting on it BD. We're 5/2 to win, no spread. 5/2 ? Babies gettin' a whole new wardrobe ....

  • Isn't it about time the national media has it's "The sky is falling for the Saints" headline?

    Let's start them off 0-2 so that we can begin the end of the Saints stint as contenders in the NFC.

    No talk of us being any good, just New Orleans implosion discussions for a week... How 'bout it?

  • I'll take nothing and I mean nothing for granted when it comes to Drew...if is just a solid awesome QB and he can make things happen regardless on who he is handing off to or throwing to. The Defense needs to win this game because I know our offense can score on theirs. If we can keep drew scrambling and or on his back we win. It's really that simple. Peppers!!!


    BEAR DOWN!!!

  • In reply to Bears-4-Ever:

    "I think the key to winning this game is, when the clock ticks to zero, having more points than those guys."

    ~ SCDave

  • Remember who the Saints lost to in the playoffs last year at home. Yep that's right, the Seahawks. I don't see anything the Saints have done in the off season to suggest they took a step forward. They started slow against the Packers last week and were able to battle back into the game to make it close. I think the Bears D will not allow that to happen. The only way I see the Bears losing this Sunday is if our Offense gives the game away. It's possible but I highly doubt N.O's D will give our boys that much trouble. Bears 27, Saints 10.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:


  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    The saints were on the road that playoff game. There D is not scary since they don't have Darren Sharpperrr. You are all forgetting how good Drew can be in games. 20 to 17

  • In reply to Artoo:

    He has no Colston, and possibly no Lance Moore, Artoo. I believe the Falcons were the number one or two seed in the NFC this year? We closed them down. We were in Ryan's face and everyone was covered - Brees is better than Ryan no doubt, but I think we can put a spanner in the works with our D ... if Brian plays (forthwith shortened to IBP).


    1. Their secondary is suspect
    2. They generate no push on OL/DL
    3. Their overall defense is mid-league to below.
    4. Our defense rocks ... IBP.
    5. Two of their DTs and their CB, Porter have not participated in practice. Roman Harper's ankle is sore.
    6. Sam Hurd (Oh Irish ...) and Woot Woot are full participants in practice.


    1. We had the worst run defense in the NFL week one. Although 53 of those yards were on a single play, doing something similar against their faster backs would presumably result in a score.

    2. Our run-blocking was suspect, Garza being the main culprit according to OBR's grades. Our pass-blocking was quite good to very good. Surprisingly, Spencer graded out top, with Carimi second! Webb was last, but that hardly needed pointing out. When Lance gets back, maybe move Spencer to LG?

    3. J'Marcus Webb is healthy.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I like it BD, I like it.

  • ...and, he's back in Chicago.

  • Saints by 7? Someone tell me what I'm missing here. Perennial Bear-hater Bill Simmons (who guaranteed the Bears would finish under 8 wins this season) has the Bears winning this game outright.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    5/2 Chi-town, no spread my friend. I say ride the gravy train.


    300 yoyos staked returns just over 3000 yoyos. 9-1 profit.

    I'm thinking Cleveland are playing a team who can't run/stop the run, in turmoil generally, and Kerry Collins is their 4 week tenure QB. Hillis gets unleashed. Baltimore appear to be the shit. Detroit should collapse the Titans and rip it up on offense, Stafford to Johnson. We all know what CHI are capable of going forward.

    Any of you guys or gals see any of those teams getting turned over (other than the Bears who are obviously a gamble).?

    I'm leaving out the Pack because they're 1/6. The Jets because they're a banana skin waiting to happen at 2/9. The Giants ditto.

    What think ye?

  • My predictions for this week's game:

    Score at halftime: Bears 17 Saints 6

    Score at the end: Bear 23 Saints 20

    Brees will get some licks in at the end, especially if our plays a soft prevent (which we did last year) to protect the lead. If our offense can be productive and pick up at least 20 against the Saints second rate D, I think we are in a strong position to win this game.

  • I think we're going to put up some points on their D, and like I said up top... if we get the same type of pressure we did last week. they won’t put up more than 1 TD.

    Now, if pressure breaks down we'll get into a shootout, which is never advisable against brees.

  • I'm really feeling a Drew Brees (Moley) injury. The guy is a dainty little dude. I'm frankly shocked that he hasn't been hurt more in his career than he has been. Melton will rip that harry mole right off his face and eat it at mid field.


  • Gentlemen…

    I believe that I HAVE found our apprentice/replacement for Lach. And he’s from ASU (ring a bell?).

    And he’s a fucking animal. I’m not kidding, this kid is a goshdurn beast… that maaaaaaay need a slight attitude adjustment to be a bear, but check this shit out: (watch all the vids on the page below the fold)

    In this one, they actually reference Butkus:

    This is meant to be lads. I’m seriously sending an email to that clown Larry to pass it on to Rusky and Jerry. We need to get this guy next year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    man, he'd be... bearfict... for us.

    (I know, but I couldn't help myself... tee hee)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Vontaze Burfict ? Can't see the film cos I'm at college and there's no flash installed but the name alone fits right in with Butkus and Urlacher.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    THis is my favorite hit. Yeah, he drops his head, but he's gettin' all Wilbur Marshall on that kid!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Too bad on so many of those highlights, the guy actually does not make a play.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    that's three...

    I'm cool that you don't like me much dave, but let's not string too many hits too closely together shall we.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Tee-hee! (MB grabs handbag ...)

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:


    Damn it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, the clock thing was not directed at you personally, believe me. There are sooooo many times I've listened to assholes on TV, and read assholes on the ESPNs of the world tell me about "the keys to victory"...

    I've thought it would be awesome to deliver as a head coach in the NFL (with of course an ultimate Bill Murray sort of deadpan) exactly that quote I put up there about the clock and points. Maybe Jimmy Mac would have done something like that... but alas.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to MB30SD:

    if he has good hands i would turn him into a slimmed down version of the re-fridgerator....he also has some leaping ability

  • Prediction: Lovie Smith will call a timeout on 3rd down at the Saints 35 yard line, trailing by one score. Mike Martz will run an end-around to Earl Bennett that will fool nobody.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    prediction: rodgers will suffer a bad concussion and never play again. where will that leave you limburger breath?

  • In reply to #16 Bears Fan:

    I'm not sure where that would leave me, but It would leave Aaron Rodgers with as many Super Bowl wins as the entire Chicago Bears franchise.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    predicition: Green Bay as a community continues to contribute nothing to society, with the notable exception of skewing american's already high obesity statistics.

  • In reply to #16 Bears Fan:

    Oh, look at you. Feisty.

  • Are you the real #16 Bears Fan or just an admiring tribute?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    You should know. You are him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    oOoOoOo spooky....

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Whoa!!!! How did you DO that with the Os? SoOoO coOoOl.

  • Alright boys, our Bears hold 1 head to head tie breaker, tis time to accumulate another on Sunday.

  • Please, do not feed.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Thanks Al.

  • Hey I restrained myself and yet you all fed him anyways. I'm normally one of the worst offenders.

  • good job sac.

  • Some Bears-Aints thoughts to add...

    1) What scheme will the Aints employ? Many suspect their D will come out blitzing, and as much of a test as it will be for Webb, our Bear Jew will be tested more by not just LB but corners and crowd noise.

    However, I have a feeling that the Aints are going to mostly play coverage and not blitz, just a feeling, forcing Cutler to be patient and thread the needle between 7 defender.

    Keep in mind I had a "feeling" the Falcons were going to sling it, and they tried (going no huddle and obviously trying to get down field), but our Dline just went crazy.

    2) Our interior Dline against their Oline will be epic.

    Melton will have to go mano-a-mano against RG Evans who is considered the best in the league. If Melton wins, that's going to force Breesus into sacks, throw aways or rushed throws into coverage where 'Lach, Briggs, Harris will be salivating.

    AA and Big Toe will go against the double team of another very good LG in Carl Nicks and motivated Kreutz. Again, if AA and Big Toe get any sort of pressure, see above. Both will clog the lanes, leaving once again Lach and Briggs back there to roam.

    3) I know TE Graham is dangerous, and our zones have traditionally been vulnerable to them in the seams, but do we seriously believe the Aints are going to leave Pep one-on-one with either T Strief/Bushrod?

    That'd be suicide.

    Because of Pepp, the Aint's are going to have to use their TE to chip or straight up double team Pepp, meaning one less WR option for our 7 to cover.

    4) X-factor. The Aints have Sproles who will catch a lot of dump-offs and screens (designed to nullify our pass rush), and he runs really well, so our D better not over pursue and tackle well.

    On the Bears side, the X factors are going to be our TEs and hot-routes.

    Martz traded Olsen because Davis and Spaeth were supposed to be better blockers, and in this game we're going to find out cuz they're going to help out Webb and Carimi chip and handle the blitz. Also, our TEs will slip open due to the Blitz, so they better catch the damn balls when Cutler takes a hit for the throw.

    Also, we're going to find out just how much Hester and Knox have progressed as WRs since they're going to have to know recognize hot reads, execute the proper route, then actually catch the damn ball. Bennett is a baller, and Roy a wild card.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Forgot to mention under 4) that Sproles is a dangeroud PR, so Graham and Co will have to be on top of their game.

    Kickoffs will mostly go out of the end zone.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    1) I hope they do blitz us, 4E85. Cutty doesn't seem to Rex the bed under pressure these days. And Hester/Forte will be sitting in a hole somewhere waiting to take it to the house, or Spaeth/Davis siting out in the flats.

    2) God bless Olin, but surely our boys have his number having gone up against him so many times in practice. He just doesn't have the physicality to block those guys.

    3) The Lac is back, I think he picks off a Graham-intended pass. Then try and stop our boy on that day of days.

    4) Pringles is the worrying factor all right. Can't miss tackles against a guy like Sprocket Sproles. Pocket Sprocket? And I hope Cutty occasionally look at his TEs when he's throwing the ball at them this week. That would be swell.

    Don't think Roy will see action with a strained bollocks.

  • Anybody know why there is no Thursday Night game tonight, what gives?

  • In reply to Shady:

    Thursday games dont start till week 11 and Saturday games start week 15.

  • That's right the flex schedule. If the Bears continue to play well, you could see them in primetime more often this year.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I guess that starts this Sunday when we kick the shite out of the Saints.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    I believe that starting next year, as part of the new CBA, they will have Thursday night games every week


  • Still no love for our boys. Every one of these bozo's picked the aint's.

    Not a brave soul amongst them I guess.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    If I were the Bears, I would make a huge print out of those predictions, and hang it over the locker room.

    Everyone picked the Falcons last week, and they were all wrong - VERY wrong.

    We'll be underdogs next week too, so just keep it up "experts".

    I vaguely remember last year when we won the NFC N, we were still ranked something like the 10th best team, behind the Eagles, Falcons, Jets (even though we beat them), Saints, etc...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    worked out pretty well for the bengals and the raiders last week too 85.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    They all picked Cleveland too.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    Look at their picks record so far. Pathetic.

  • Bears have issues on the injury front in Chris Harris Roy Williams and Marion Barber all missing practice. For the Saints, Roman Harper has an ankle injury. A week ago Roman Harper played like he didn't belong on the field. He looked like an AARP member with his gray ass hair. If he starts, the Bears need to go right at him unrelenting when enough isn't enough.

    You know Mike Martz was giddy as all get out looking at the Packers pick the Saints secondary apart. While the Saints managed to get in their shots on Rodgers, there were gaping holes in the NO defense asking to be exploited. Unfortunately for Jay there are holes on the O Line also asking to be exploited. I'm anxious to see if Mike Tice can make some adjustments and get this group to take a step forward instead of backwards.

  • In reply to Shady:

    + 1 on Martz enjoying his free preview, Shady...I think that's also the issue so many forget when they start predicting games - to read some of them, you'd think the Bears didn't have a coaching staff or access to game film.

    I do think the Saints are going to show some stuff early and fast that we haven't seen yet (you could say that for every team in the league, though), and I think he's going to want it to turn into the shootout that MB referenced as "not good" in an earlier post.

    I do think, to your last comment above, that Tice will also have some stuff the Saints aren't film-ready for, too. And I think we'll take them to 0-2.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I don't think Chris Harris is serious and he will play.

    Roy makes a completely inappropriate comment about practice.,0,5210646.story

  • In reply to Shady:

    Grey is sexy, Shady. Sexy.

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    Here we Go !!!! Yes I'm a Saint's fan.... Not here to bash you guys this is gonna be a good game... But The Saint's will beat Da Bears at home..

  • In reply to Hermon Munster:

    welcome HermonCheesy... the falcons said the same thing last week lad. Should certainly be a good game.

    Just remember the X-Factor HC... this team is going to be HIGHLY motivated to win this one for Mrs. Urlacher and her son.

  • In reply to Hermon Munster:

    Why? How? I welcome a more detailed analysis as I'll be wagering 300 yoyos on a 4-timer ....

  • Okay, so this didn't happen in Green Bay Wisconsin, but you know how those folks are about the latest fads......

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    "Zhang Nan, of China, was bathing with live eels in order to cleanse his skin when things went horribly wrong. According to Metro, one of the small eels managed to not only swim up his urethra, but actually made it all the way to his bladder."

    What an awesome blog!

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    They have those little baby ones in shops all over the place here in Pattaya. Thrilled tourists can be seen gurning out at the passers by as they sit with their feet in tanks of water being 'cleaned' by little eels. If it happened in the wild I'd be screaming like a little girl. We can add those things to pinworms and bot fly.

  • Don Banks needs to write an article about the shocking Week 1 team, the team that surpassed all expectations.

    He wrote about the Bills.

    Man, SI hates the Bears. It's almost comic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Here you go GP (from Collinsworth of all people!?!?! I know, I was shocked too):

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well there ya go. Chris is starting to look more and more like Cryptkeeper, but hey, that was cool of him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The 'experts' all picking the Bills to beat the Raiders? Hmmm. Mos thave gone for the Colts which is strange I would have thought. Only two pick the Eagles?

  • Off topic I know, but I am having a hard time with the image of a young Sarah Palin getting the Artoo treatment over a pool table from, of all people, Glen Rice. Glen Rice??????

    "And that's three!!!!!!!!",0,3591447.story

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Artoo gives a whole new meaning to the phrase,

    "Superman that hoe!"

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    The 'Artoo treatment' ... Crown's in danger of having his ladies' crown taken off him ....

  • I would like to know more about this surface we are playing on; know nothing about its quality

    do you think we play faster than this team, even on their home turf

    do players choose what type of shoe works best; or is there a shoe that everyone wears?

    do the coaches look at hester and knox as better players on this type of surface because of their speed and try and adjust plays to exploit that?


    Tricky Martz

  • RW is enough of a weapon that he's doing what we wanted him to do. He's not killing it, he's not drawing comparisons to the Brandon Marshall-Jay Cutler team, he dropped easy balls in pre-season, but he's just enough of a chess piece that it's getting done what Martz wants done.

    What is that? To my mind, neither Hester or Knox or Great Dane are legit out route threats. Dane is probably the best of those three, and he's just ok. RW is better than ok, he's good at it.

    The out route is a staple play, a chain mover. It forces the corner to cheat the outside when he lines up, it forces the safety in 2-deep to cheat his zone. In short, in opens up the seams for the TE and the post.

    With RW, Cutler keeps his throw up high, where he likes it. DeAngelo Hall or any corner has a hard time stepping across an out route thrown to RW, because it's way up high.

    In the red zone, RW works the back corner the same way. Keep that ball up there, throw over corners. We needed one guy who could do that not named Greg Olsen. And that's what RW is.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    if they run out routes more and this opens up seams for the tight ends; does that mean that the tight end has to get behind the linebackers?
    or is it a quicker release that gets them the ball before the linebacker

    I used to watch unitas get the ball to mackey; it almost seemed within 3 yards of the line of scrimmage, and then he would get at least 3 as he dragged tacklers downfield

    either tight end would be a handful; but i don't see this happen much.... is it the nature of todays D that nullifies this quick pass?

  • In reply to huntinbare:

    I can't see a TE getting in behind Lac, he jumps too high. But if anyone can squeeze it in there, it's Brees.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Did you notice that every time someone talks about Hester they say he is Double Covered? lol

  • A colleague of mine is a Packer fan. We generally exchange friendly jabs. She said something to me yesterday that wasn't intended to be a jab, and it's something I hear a lot from people. She said, "The thing about the bears is, they win a lot of games that they shouldn't." She's a hard core rock climbing hottie who watches football almost as much as I do, so it's not a 'typical' girl comment. She's the kind of chick who could (theoretcially) make a guy wish he was single. Super smokin' hot and smart and nice and smells good... sorry. (I'd never leave my wife, but a guy can fantasize right?).

    So anyway, I hear this type of thing a lot from people. And it's mostly because of the cover 2. I think. On the stat sheet, the bears give up a ton of yards, often to mediocre QB's. They have been known to come up with the occasional turnover. This may seem to many like a team winning lucky. But WE all know this is a product of the philosophy of the cover 2. I can't help but wonder if this is one of the reasons we're often slighted or disregarded in the press. The pundits see the stat sheet. That and guys like Jay Cutler and Sexy Rexy make easy offensive targets. Rexy for obvious reasons, and Jay because he has a pouty face, and the way he left Denver, and he, too, throws the occasional INT.

    At what point, does consistent luck, as the doubters would have it, become "The sneaky dominance of the Cover 2"? I understand that people have their gripes with the McCaskeys, and rightfully so. And I'm sure this is a major factor for the haters in the press. But what about the general football fan, and say, NFL network analyst? Is their hate largely rooted in an incomplete understanding of the cover 2? If so, how could this be?

    I want to win the Super Bowl for obvious reasons. But the most satisfying thing will be fact that all the haters will be forced to either eat crow, or look even douchier by denying their legitimacy.

    Continue Bearing Down.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    By the way, I would love to hear an honest thoughtful reply from a Packer fan or some other non-bears fan on here.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    That's not a surprising comment coming from a Packer fan. Just look at the last 4 years that the Bears and the packers played.....from a packer fan's perspective. Week 3 last year: infuriating. Green Bay walked all over the bears in the first half and looked to be on the verge of a rout. Then they get a punt return TD and suddenly have life after being absolutely worthless all game. It wasn't just the 18 flags that did them in, but it was the plays that got nullified by those flags. Zombo's helmet to helmet (good call) hit that wiped out Barnett's game clinching INT. Burnett's PI (bad call) that nullified Collins' game clinching INT. A holding call that wiped out a Finley Touchdown. It felt like the packers won that game 5 times. You don't necessarily have to feel that the pack was robbed or anything, but that was the definition of "a game the Bears shouldn't have won". Then there was that game late in 2008. GBs season had fallen off the cliff thanks to last minute loss after last minute loss and they got up by two scores comfortably on the bears and it was like Ok well at least we beat the bears (this was a few weeks after GB won 35-3 in lambeau)....but then then the let them back in the game and had a chip shot game winning FG blocked and then a horse collar penalty in OT and the Bears squeaked one out. Then in 2007 when the Packers when 13-3 and the Bears were lousy but they still swept the pack, including that Wind Bowl game that was the most unplayable environment i've ever seen. Jon Ryan had 4 punts for a total of 9 yards. 2 were blocked because he couldn't handle the snap. The Bears hammered Green Bay that day but it was almost like it wasn't a football game; it was some other competition in which the bears were superior. The earlier game that year the packers fumbled 3 times with 2 more untimely INTs that doomed them in a game that they were dominating. Take for instance last years conference championship, when the packers were steamrolling Chicago, and then the ball bounces off donald driver's foot and falls into Briggs' lap. That's the kind of stuff that you almost expect from Bears games. It always feels like the packers are handling the Bears for the majority of the game but we're used to momentum swings from out of the blue. You might disagree with all of this, and I'm not making excuses....but the Bears always seem to steal games from Green Bay, at least for the last 4 years.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    TBC, I think if you look at it from our strategical perspective, you'll look at it less as luck and more as The Bear's skill.

    It's been our strategy to be a Bend-but-don't-break defense. So it's not unusual for an opponent to go up and down on the field on our team. Trust me from a fan's perspective, it looks like we get handled a lot too, but in reality it's just that good old philosophy of waiting for a team to mess up, which they typically do.

    Special teams wise then, we are probably the greatest to ever exist.

    So I think putting those things together you can see, it's not primarily luck that puts the team in those positions, just a commitment to what they do.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I think the current fan has a memory of our team that includes futile offenses

    everything in our culture is about putting up big is no different

    there is less respect for hard working defenses; that can change the nature of games by scoring......I believe they think defensive scores are somehow cheap.....not as shiny

    I think back to 85 and remember that the articles were different from the press is rare for us to have both sides of the ball respected in the press; but when we do great things happen

    I sense that everybody expects us to regress this week and turn the ball over enough to lose;
    they will say we are too inconsistent, see I told you...blah blah blah

    when we get through these first three games I believe that they may not wip this lucky card speech out anymore

    they may even begin to start fearing us......I still believe this day is coming

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Hey Doc... if this gal is a colleague, hot, and available, I'll take her. Despite her being a Packer fan.

    She married?

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Again, only the saints gave up fewer passing TDs than us last year. We give up the yards, but we keep your receivers in front of us and people rarely score on us through the air. I don't think the Falcons had a passing TD last week did they? It is largely ignorance, as if the Bears just sit in Cover 2 like robots every game, no matter what the situation is.

    And that girl is just regurgitating stuff she's heard other guys say, who get it off the TV. Yes we won some games we maybe shouldn't have, but also lost some we should have won. Redskins last year. Lovie doesn't challenge Cutty's TD/first down dive. The Giants game even - they sucked at everything but pass-rushing. Seattle - how did we lose to them?

    Totally agree on Cutty's face, especially last year and previously. But why didn't everybody pile onto a never-better-than-mediocre POS QB like Eli Manning? Didn't he throw three more INTs than Cutty's nightmare year? It's not like Eli dragged his team through the regular season then carried them through the playoffs on his back when they won the Superbowl.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Doc, you need to introduce that football lovin' hottie to your wife... maybe they will "like" each other!

  • People will take notice if the bears can go out on sunday and bring the sort of heat on Brees that they brought on Ryan. If Brees hits the ground 15 times like Ryan did then quiet talk about the bears fucking wrecking crew will start to surface. I want Melton, Pep and Okoye to throw Brees on his fucking brain.
    Teams take shots at Cutler so it has to be the other way around.

    Brees fucking dead.

  • In reply to Gucci Mang:

    Well, let's just ratchet it up a little. I want the big show to be saved for week 3. Unless, of course, we need it to win.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Wooton's back. Time for a re-do, Woot Woot.

    A-Rodge won't be able to sit back there all day like he did against the Saints when he plays us. He never can. It'll be a dog-fight as always, and as it should be.

  • Doc, if we can just rearrange the words in "hard core rock climbing hottie" or give them a different context, your story gets so much better.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Can't do that. Mb will kill him lol jp jp

  • In reply to Artoo:

    no, just you erik.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sigh.. how long must a rook suffer..

  • Hey Doc, I think our Defense is built that way.

    We let them dink and dunk because if they hold on to the ball any longer they will get harassed. If they do dink and dunk, they are taught to strip it away and we are a very good team at that.

    When we beat the Packers.. who caused that fumble again?

    Last week...who made Turner fumble?

    Atlanta got Julio for one reason only, to open up the passing lanes deep and our defense takes that away because of the pressure of our front four.

    Now, I know Melton is not that good but he shows some promise and so does Wooten. There are two people who make this defense work.

    Urlacher and Peppers. If either of them go down or out, this defense will not work. Example? Look at when we have both of them and when we didn't. 08,09, and some of those years where Urlacher was our in the early years.

    Other defenses have more than two players that make a defense even more scary but ours is just two players.

    Same thing on offense. Two players, Cutler and Forte. Take them out and how does the offense work?

    So I guess that is where we get the lucky part...we kinda rely on two players to win us games on both sides of the balls and when others step up we play even better.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Peppers and Urlacher are two of the best defenders in the NFL for me. I guess we should just be lucky our studs are all in place this week. We are not the Bears of last year.

    Last season we had no O-line whatsoever, and no push from the D-line. Now we have a D-line that can generate push, collapse pockets and have some depth to boot. Our O-line is bigger and is not too shabby at pass pro. The clock in Cutler's head isn't their fault. Though perhaps, just perhaps, Cutty might be more reluctant to scramble this year if he's all skinny and has less puppy stuff about his person?

    There's a pro bowl safety in the D-backfield to take advantage of what the D-line forces into their plate. Wooten's back. Hurd can be brought on this week. Chris Harris is out? Would have been nice to have Barber back but so be it. I think, as I'm sure most of you do, that Brian will run amok this Sunday and have a very big day.

    Anyone think Indy can beat Cleveland? I threw the Bears in with BAL, CLE and DET. 9-1.

  • Jeff, i've seen some of your tweets and read your posts...

    Tell me the truth, did college football sleep with your mom or your girlfriend or something?

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