Bears Have Roster Wiggle Room Heading into Meaningless Finale

I don't believe, at least I hope, the Bears are not using tonight's meaningless game against the Cleveland Browns to make any roster decisions of significance for the 2011 campaign.  But since we all need reasons to watch these worthless exhibitions, let's come up with a couple.

  1. Winston Venable is reportedly fighting for a roster spot as a special teams contributor.  With Dane Sanzenbacher and Kahlil Bell unlikely to add much in that department, the club may roster up someone who lives in the third phase.  (See video above)
  2. The third QB is active on Sundays.  But if the Bears send Nathan Enderle into a football game, that game is over.  Will they slide him to the practice squad, hope he doesn't venture elsewhere and use that roster slot for a productive contributor?
  3. Who will fill in for Corey Wootton while the Bears await his return?
  4. Who will take the final spot along the offensive line?

I got nothing else.  I frankly expect Lovie Smith to keep everyone out of uniform tonight.  So you know what you should do?  You should vote DaBearsBlog as Chicago's most valuable sports blogs by CLICKING HERE.

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  • First to say...

    I thought this was Winston Venable?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmannAYiwh0

  • 1. Bell will be a big time special teams contributor this year.
    2. Enderle is another Lefever
    3. Mario Addison
    4. Boners

  • In reply to Crown:

    I remember boners. Random boners.

  • Seriously, how hard is it to play special teams? You run a 4.6ish 40. You run down, clog a lane, don't get knocked on your ass, and make a tackle. And keep your head on a swivel so you don't make the highlight reel. Can't any 220 lb, 20 year old who's been playing football for 10 years do that?

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Ditto catching a frakkin ball. Honestly. It's not rocket science. See the ball coming, I don't know - put up your fkn hands and catch it maybe ? You're a wide receiver. You're in the NFL. You're a millionaire. Do you really need coaching to hold on to a fkn football? I can't really remember Devin Hester muffing a punt return. That's harder. Big booming kick, really high ball, everyone is running right at you wanting to knock your block right off your body, all legal like, and he catches every one of them. Dink him him a little pass and it's butterfingers? I'll forgive all of that stuff until Atlanta come to town ... and then it's time for Murder At Soldier Field .....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Memories are short, Irish. Devin had troubles with punts early on, but no one cared because any one could possibly get taken to the end zone.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    My memory is not great I'll be the first to admit. He's good at the running thing though.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    During the rough Hester years, I swear he muffed at LEAST one.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    Oh he muffed plenty -- like 5/year. Even in the good years.

    Last year though I think he did very well -- either no or very few muffs.

    Anyway there is a lot less to think about when catching a punt, and you have 4-5 seconds to see the punt, judge the trajectory, get into position, and make the catch. By contrast, a WR usually never sees the release, has about 1-2 second tops (and often < .5 seconds) to locate the ball and judge its trajectory and speed, has limited ability to adjust his position and speed, and has to make the catch with at least one defender trying to break it up or intercept. Not to mention his vision may be obscured, he has to catch the ball while in motion (sometimes backwards), a defender may be inhibiting his positioning, and he's often expecting to get hit immediately, which means he has to try to catch the ball away from the defender and possibly short-armed. These punt catches and WR catches are not even close to being similar.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I'd be thinking about dropping that punt a lot more than a pass. The more time you have to think about something the more difficult it is. That's a very scientific way you're talking about catching a pass. Surely you've played football? Catching a pass is a no-brainer. You see the ball and you put your hands up for it, there's not much thinking involved. It's instinctive. There's not much coaching involved. You can either do it or you can't. If Hester isn't comfortable with catching a ball - if his hand-eye co-ordination isn't there then maybe he should be further down the roster tree? i haven't seen anything much of Williams career to know (or remember!) if he's got a dropsies problem. Bennett should be number one. If you can't catch a ball ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    As I mention below, my point had nothing to do with Hester. I'm just saying that the ability to field punts well does not directly translate to the ability to catch passes well. That's not to say he can't do both well, just that the two things are very different.

    And catching a pass isn't a "no-brainer". Sure it may be when your pal is tossing a meatball or (his version of) a heater in your backyard. But WR in the NFL have to concentrate on at least half a dozen different things that _aren't_ the QB or the ball, then suddenly turn and find a ball out of nowhere and catch something flying 40-60mph at them. I'm not saying it's not their job to be as close to 100% as possible -- but to dismiss the difficulty like that shows a basic un-appreciation for how challenging the modern game is.

    You're overreacting to basically one game. Let's see how things play out the first few games then decide. The coaches get to see a lot more than we do, plus they know is more likely to get open on which routes. Let's give them a chance.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Michael,

    I don't think anybody, especially Irish, is saying that catching a pass is easy. He's just saying that it would seem to him that catching a punt is harder. I've never done either on an NFL level, but I've done both in High School, and to me, unless it's a perfectly thrown fade in stride, a punt is way easier. But it can be misleading so high in the sky. You're judging trajectory, which can be very tough, especially with wind or sun in your eyes. You're keeping your peripheral vision on the lanes. blockers, and tacklers in front of you.fully aware all the while, that all eyes and evil intent is focused on you. It can be plenty challenging. I find it easier than catching a bulllet while crossing the middle though. No doubt.

    He's also saying that a guy getting paid to be a professional pass catcher, should catch the ball it if it hits his hands. Period. I'm inclined to agree with him.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Well, he was saying it is easy:

    [Seriously, how hard is it to play special teams? ... Can't any 220 lb, 20 year old who's been playing football for 10 years do that?]
    "Ditto catching a frakkin ball. Honestly. It's not rocket science. See the ball coming, I don't know - put up your fkn hands and catch it maybe ?"

    "Catching a pass is a no-brainer. You see the ball and you put your hands up for it, there's not much thinking involved. It's instinctive. There's not much coaching involved. You can either do it or you can't."

    I agree with you that anyone paid to catch balls should do their job and catch balls. No excuses. But realistically, drops will happen. And as Irish even acknowledged below, every WR drops balls -- including (and in fact especially) the best ones.

    So Irish is just venting I guess, which is fine -- drops suck and deserve criticism, but let's just not pretend catching an NFL pass is easy...

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Oh come on Michael. See pass. Raise hands. Catch. There's no pulling out a calculator or protractor. You put your hands up and you catch it or you don't. These are grown men. Kids catch footballs.

    I just think we might be over-reacting because we want/need our receiver to be good. Both Knox and Hester have made some insane catches in their time, so let's just hope an actual NFL regular season game will be enough to focus their attention.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    it's not rocket science for an NFL player. but believe me, i've hit against pitchers that throws 95 and have caught passes from qb's with cannons that played college and anyone besides a pro or more elite level athlete would look like a fucking retard trying to do both.

  • and let's just say there is a reason why i'm not playing pro baseball or football right now. my point was that for us to sit here and judge how hard it is to catch a Cutler missle while some LB wants to bang your face through the facemask is not really fair.

  • The reason these guys are there is that they are supposed to be able to catch it anyway.

    The catching I did was as a keeper in high school. Some guys could kick the ball pretty hard, and they were trying to make it so I would NOT catch it. Several hundred of those a week for three years and one learns to catch reasonably well.

    But although the ground hits pretty hard sometimes, it ain't no linebacker! So while I readily admit it's apples and oranges, the frequency with which NFL players simply drop the ball (think flares, swings, and screens) still surprises me.

  • +1

    That is exactly what I was getting at. The extra stuff I was saying about catching a ball vs a punt was just to illustrate how much concentration is being devoted to other things as a WR. But just the raw act of catching a pro pass is nothing like what we think of from a rec league... or even HS/college competitive sports.

  • Exactly. But any schmo can be a special-teamer.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Being a special teamer is not the same as being good at ST.

    Surely you don't object to Toub lobbying for one player over another based on their ability to be a gunner/contain/protector/etc?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    the only reason i say make them spend all day with the ball just flippin it; i think it becomes an extension of your hands they become one .

    if your going to be good at b-ball you got to spend a lifetime when you are young dribbling
    i got to believe that no reciever spends that kind of time handling the ball.

    turn hester pependicular to punts and ask him to catch the ball with just his hands

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Oh suuure, it's EASY!

  • Jeff, I'm confused by point #1... Bell is a 4-phase ST players, and reportedly has been very good too. I don't know about Dane though.

    I'm guessing after last year's LeFavor incident, they'll be skittish about throwing their 3rd QB and development prospect onto the PS again.

    Ok, I have to laugh at you guys... Sure it may be easy playing ST and catching passes in rec leagues, but this is the NFL. Why are some players better tacklers, blockers, hand-fighters, or have a quicker burst than others on offense and defense? You don't think that applies to STs, and that you can gain an edge by superior techniques, play design, and better players? I guess Toub and Smith have just been lucky then and not consistently better than the rest of the league because of coaching and personnel.

    As for catching NFL passes, surprise all NFL receivers on all teams drop passes! I guess every team's personnel department must be full of idiots, since it should be so easy to find a team full of guys who can just catch balls.

    Anyway, sorry to be snide, but it just seemed appropriate... =)

  • In reply to Michael L:

    It's definitely true about all players dropping passes. The players that drop the most are actually the best receivers in the NFL when you look at the top 10/20 'droppers'. The guys are under a microscope pre-season. Guys like Onrea Jones are a lot more focussed right now, dropping less because they're fighting for their careers. hester and RW aren't.

  • I got nothing to say. Just wanted to say WASSSSSSSSSSUPPPPPPPPPPPP

  • 'Sup Fres?

  • Heya Fres!

  • DL

    Okoye is making this club, esp. if he can do anything at end
    Pep
    Izzy

    DT
    Old Sauce wants Melton Cheese at under tackle. The whole D is predicated on keeping Urlacher free, and the whole thing works correctly when the under tackle requires a double team, and Melton is a god damn missle giving fear boners to left guards everywhere.

    Toe is the solid guy, the guy taking the majority of snaps against the Falcons, the rock.

    AA has shown us nothing. We paid to keep him, and we have seen nothing from him so far. Lining him up next to Melton was the tactic, the dude is an immovable object in there, causing running lanes to collapse. If he is a no go, then I don't care what anyone says, Harrison is his backup, and his making this team.

    Toe and Melton just got ripped for too many big runs against the Giants when they started. They need AA or Harrison in there to clog up running lanes. It sucks that the NFL jacked with Our Boy Roy's videos, because he was apt to point this out.

    We may see Old Sauce re-experiment with Melton-Pep combos, but I nearly shit when I saw Pep line up inside. That fucking sucked, I don't care if that's a stunt call or not - I never want to see Pep lined up inside at tackle ever again. Let's chalk that up to Tennessee weather breeding incompetence and stop that shit.

    Flatbread is going away. If it's a risk to try and stash him on the squad du practice, then its a risk worth taking.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Correction: the fear boner goes to the right guard when Melton is lined up at 3-tech tackle.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Roster thoughts:

    On the depth chart I see they have Big Toe at second string behind both Melton at nose and 8-ball in the 3T. Okoye is 3rd string behind Melton and Harrison/Paea joint third?? behind AA. Chester is Forte's backup. Kyle Adams is 4th string at TE. Didn't we release Gholston? He's still listed as joint backup behind Peppers.

    Interestingly - Hester is listed as both PR and KR.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/team/depthchart.asp

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    depth chart means nothing.

  • Yeah, Da Site is always slow getting things updated.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    That depth chart was from 2 weeks ago after the 2nd game.

    And hell yes Hester is first string PR/KR... =). Even if they split KR reps I think they are listing him first.

  • Fuck ESPN in the mouth with a rigid aids infested stinky homeless penis. Twice.

    Not one of them predicted even a wild card appearance for the Bears, yet several of these cum dumpsters have the Lions getting in. I'd love to fly out to Bristol just to spray diareah all over these fucking douchebags. I hope the mighty love hammer posts this very article in the locker room all year.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/preview11/story/_/id/6885090/espn-experts-nfl-predictions-2011

  • i almost vomited when i saw Pep line up at tackle. we need to be moving Pep from side to side so both tackles can experience fear wood.

  • oh and i posted this on the last thread because it is just the right thing to do:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Doug-Flutie-8217-s-daughter-makes-Patriots-821;_ylt=AgQO4b1ShAYA71kvMA_JWJY5nYcB?urn=nfl-wp6252

  • yes I would ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    we need cheerleaders again, seriously, we need to petition them.

  • That's some nice pro-creatin' there, Dougie. Damn nice.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    + 1 for "pro-creatin"

  • Missed it last thread, so I am grateful to you for pointing this out.

  • Just found out I have to catch a flight for work on Sept 11 during game time. If I can't watch the game on the flight, I'll be ten times worse that Gerard Depardieu and hold down a flight attendant in the aisle while I chest dump on her and swing my cheenis around like a lasso while doing ball in cup tricks. I might have to buy some package for my computer. FUUUCCCCCKK!!!

  • In reply to Crown:

    Gerard Depardieu has a nose chenis

  • In reply to Crown:

    On 911 Crown? You're gonna chest dump on a stewardess mid flight? That's some balls, son.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    Crown's gonna end up in Gitmo listening to a non-stop loop of Trent the Penis Dilfer "analyzing" for the entire season...

  • Forte's gettin paid!

  • No word on Forte accepting his Gore-like deal.

    CJ has signed:

    http://nfl.si.com/2011/09/01/chris-johnson-reaches-deal-with-titans/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    CJ would like to thank all the little ppl who, even while unemployed or struggling themselves to pay rent, found it in their hearts to pray for him to get $53 mil.

    And to those who didn't, STFU!

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Wow. Right on, 4ever.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    It's funny AND true!

  • it makes me sad when i read an article about guys like Fred Taylor retiring at 15th on the all time yards list and people give a thumbs down to a comment respecting the guy's lifelong effort and accomplishments.
    Why do people suck so hard?

  • Their lives must be really bad. Perhaps we should pity them?

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    Time for the obligatory

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Love that movie almost as much as braveheart.

    Fred Taylor is one of those guys that just never got any love even though he was the model of consistency at a harsh position. I think he made like ONE pro-bowl. He's kind of a poor man's Sweetness. Maybe his nick name should be "Tangy".

    Another guy like that - our very own Thomas Jones, but he's a bit more of a douche, so I don't mind him going under the radar.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    got me thinking of Jones vs Forte.

    Thomas Jones rushed for 1,400; 1300; 1,100; 1,200; 1,300 and pretty much avg 4.3 yds/carry in the last 5 years (I don't count last year since he spelled Jaamal Charles).

    Now, how much does Forte think he's worth again?

    (I'll preemptively acknowledge Forte's CA yardage, but Jones give or take gained about 150 rec yads, so add that to his rushing totals.)

    Forte should keep in mind that we gave Thomas Jones away for a pack of gum. Something to think about.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Since it's going to be a slow day, and I brought up Jones, quick poll:

    Which was bigger bone head move, letting T. Jones walk and keeping Benson, or letting Collins be our second instead of Hanie?

    things that make you go hmmmmmm...remember that song? heh?

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    I think it far more likely that Collins for Hanie cost us a Super Bowl than Ced for Thomas.

  • Because sucking is much much easier than being good at something. ...other than sucking

  • People are just viruses with shoes - Bill Hicks.

  • I would like to present Willie's daily "join the Auction league" message, brought to you by... Willie.

    So far we have 5/10 slots filled.

    Murph, MBHAP, Sac, Nitty, and myself.

    Hop on, fuckers! Though, after seeing Doc has joined - we likely don't have a chance in hell... I have a feeling that he has created some sort of mathematical algorithm to destroy each and every one of us.

    Link: http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/tools/join?leagueId=907245
    Password: ditka

    Draft is Wednesday, 9/7 at 9PM ET.

    If you like fantasy football, you'll love fantasy football auctions.

    Yay.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    so willie... do you mean to tell me that you want to start an auction fantasy league? Just curious.

  • In reply to Who is Willie Gault:

    off duty

  • Well, this is a little bit of a surprise.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821df86a/article/nfl-division-power-rankings-nfc-north-tops-the-list

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    FUCK YOU FUDGEPECKER!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hope the Saint's "Concus: Fuckdogers and the lose big...would be a great night game......

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    whatever... all these idiots don't learn. shit on the bears and love the lions... how's that worked out for you morons?

  • Today's Olin Kreutz Bad Negotiation Award goes to Mel Gibson's mail order Russian bride, who turned down a $15M settlement to go to court, where the judge gave her 750k.

    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/entertainment/oksana-grigorieva-gets-750000-settlement-mel-gibson

    A devastating blow for bottle girls all over LA and NY, surely.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    her response:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6GuEswXOXo&feature=related

    how can I pay for all the plastic surgery still to be done?

  • Solid rant on the last thread Irish, nice work.

  • In reply to Shady:

    And on that note, I have no idea if SC Dave is black or not. Don't care. Was only making a point on the irony of Navy unintentionally using a phrase that is often avoided due to the negative connotation of the word "spade", while blasting Dave for using an islamic based racist slur.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEEHZdxkOfo

    PS. Not sure if I used irony correctly there or not. Also don't care.

  • In reply to Doc Nitty 34:

    I actually didn't know the history of "calling a spade a spade" - I always thought it originated in either Poker, or in a farming (a shovel spade). Either would have made sense to me.

    But a lot of lingo has built in -ism.

    For instance, a feminist would argue calling someone a "pussy", "wussy" ( a mix of whimp AND pussy), "lil girl", "bitch", "cunt", etc is sexist (and of course, then there's "gay" "fag" "homo" "queen" which is a related -ism), but most ppl do use those...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_call_a_spade_a_spade

    "The phrase was introduced to English in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of Erasmus, Apophthegmes, that is to saie, prompte saiynges. First gathered by Erasmus:

    Philippus aunswered, that the Macedonians wer feloes of no fyne witte in their termes but altogether grosse, clubbyshe, and rusticall, as they whiche had not the witte to calle a spade by any other name then a spade. "

    I knew the phrase had nothing to do with the slur, but I thought it was quite apt to use as a counterpoint--a phrase that is by no means racist, using a word that some might consider a slur, as opposed to "dhimmi" (which most people don't have a clue as to its meaning), which isn't popularly perceived to be a slur, but it was definitely used as one.

  • Well.....

    Bravo then.

  • Anyone have a link to the 4rth game?

    I need like a Bears intervention - watching the Bears 4rth preseason game on a horrible halting pirate link...but after this lock-out, I'm gobbling all of football like a disenchanted Tim Tebow at a whore house.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Hahaha

  • I don't know about YOU guys, but I'd LOVE to see some TURNOVERS tonight.

    Colt McCoy = Rex Grossman 2.0?

  • In reply to Shady:

    McCoy is NOT Rex Grossman 2.0.

    He's already looked better than Grossman, and he's only in his 2nd year. McCoy, if anything, could be another Orton, for better and worse - a borderline starting qb who "manages" the game and can win, though not wow.

    And since we're on Orton and by extension Tebow, I wonder who will trade for Tebow when Orton produces this year...Can the Raiders pick up two rb/qbs? That would be an interesting and unique package - if ur a D and see Pryor and Tebow in the backfield at the same time - that's be f'n crazy. Not to mention just the idea of Tebow on the Raiders. C'mon Raiders!

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    That's so crazy it just may work.

  • link boys and girls:

    http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/81479/1/watch-chicago-bears-vs-cleveland-browns.html

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    thank u Lobo!

  • Waddle at pr- show said Bears will have same record as last year!! I likey!!!

  • ha ha, first play, Taylor run.

  • wtf...did we get RT play back for that end around?

  • good drive and then we wiff...we need punch it in attitude.....FG 3

  • Hanie looks a bit shaky out there. Chris Williams looked terrible that 1st drive.

  • 1st drive.

    Nice protection. Decent mix of run, pass. Sanzenbacher is in like Scwhinn. Rex Hanie, some accuracy, than some high throws. No TD, what's new? Fade route to Knox in the endzone? That's prob the last time we'll see that call.

  • Henry "Tuna" Melton, nice move to get to the QB.

  • Take me out to the MAUL game baby!

    Thanks for the link lobo!

  • lou cannelis is a fucking cannoli man. Yo lou! Meatball.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    tee hee

  • Martzy in the box again...I like him not having a chubby on the sideline

    TD BEARS!!!!!!!!!

  • Dude, Irish... on the outside, long ball... knox is money man. Sorry. He needs to be in the mix every game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    in double coverage no less!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1 on FortKnox

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Love to see the game obviously, workin'... want to see this R. Hughes dude .... is he big?

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    He looked pretty big. I think they said he was 6'2"? The guy played pretty beastly tonight, for sure. Granted it was against 3rd stringers, but he had some nice moves and played balls out.

  • nice throw RexHaine

  • THAT was a nice throw and catch right into double coverage. 1st TD pass this season? Wow.

  • Rex Haine to Knox post route TD!

    Hanie put that ball exactly where it needed to be - dropped it over 2 defenders and into Knox's hand.

    The problem with Hanie is that he'll throw into double and triple coverage, and some plays it'll look sweet like that TD, other times like last week.

    Hence, Rex Hanie.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    perfect.

  • Dude... the browns... SUUUUUCK. (sorry will)

  • is that a young todd collins?!

  • Fuckin a, I can't wait to eat a bit o crow on the oline after the first three real games.

    I mean, again, it's not like we're Indy like we could have been, but at least so far they've looked WAY better than I thought they would. Bring on real games and real challenges baby!

  • Having Sazen back there returning punts only makes me appreciate Hester all that much more.

    I cringe a little when the Browns punt it.

    Reed looking like a man possesed. Addison looks good too. That last DE spot is going to be tough.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Dusty?

  • finally, Podlesh pins a punt within the 10. Was beginning to worry...

  • damn, our D line is soooo deep.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and that's exactly how she likes it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    thinking the same damn thing MB. Whichever dlinemen we let go (can't keep them all, can we?) will be picked up by Colts, Tampa, etc

  • do we have a single takeway this preseason?

    D better start playing some Bears takeaway D starting.... next week.

    Where in thee hell is eveyrone? Looks like it's you and me 85... lobo, you still here? Shady?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm here

  • that was silly... I'm almost done here.

  • En"doh"~~~couldn't find anyone except the other team...

  • holy shit. DJ... fuck you asshat!

  • I'm out!!

  • Enderle sucks.

  • he ain't no jamarcus russle johnny

  • Bell hurt? Taylor, looks like you're not getting cut just yet.

  • TD by penalty?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    can you just commit so many defensive penalties on the goal line that they just give the offense a td?

  • Nope... it's always half the distance, even if the distance is 2 inches... haha.

  • who the fuck is hughes? Dude's a beast.

    Hey johnny, didn't I tell you guys: http://news.yahoo.com/video/sandiegochannel8-15751279/unbelievable-photo-of-shark-spotted-at-swamis-26489219.html

    ...this is at/near one of my fav surf spots.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hughes is going to be Irish's starting RB.

    Just fucking with u Irish. I know it's like 3am in Thailand or where ever he's at.

    They should update Bell's condition. WTF!?

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    ankle

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Makes sense... Hughes is a Fighting Irish... haha.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    3 in the morning has never stopped me '85! Nah, teachin' .....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    fuck that shit. i'm a pool guy.

  • yeah mang. scary shit. watch, some dude's going to get chomped soon... I just know it won't be me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    too pretty? shark repellant? superfast swimmer?

  • all of the above

  • Linnenkohl nice push on the goal line at center. not bad kid.

  • conte!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    dude tackles like a fucking girl... Johnny would have taken that dude's head off and been fined $20,000

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i would have just handed my Rolex to the ref after my hit. You know i'd be gangster fabulous and would wear my rolex during the game.
    oh i'm getting fined??? take this motherfucking Daytona you trick ass bizzznatch. put it on my tab.

  • the way steltz was laying on the ground is not good.

  • some bear pulled a Steltz on Steltz.

  • hahahahaha

  • +1

  • I know this sounds fucking crazy but i would love to see that gay haired dude Nick Reed play OLB. He is small at DE but moves well...and he has really gay hair so maybe he would work out like a poor man's Matthews.

  • you really like the hair thing huh?

  • So, are we meeting up?

  • Paea worked over like a beeyotch.

  • "Paea gets sealed off..." Jeesh. We have to drop a perfect pass over two defenders, they just waltz right in for a TD.

    I know it's only preseason, but common man.

  • I wish Mario Addison had Nick Reed's motor...and his hair. Reed is like 235 playing DE.

  • Fantuz sighting.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Khalil Bell 2.0 with a strong showing tonight.

  • Can we keep Hughes and dump Taylor if Bell is injured? That would be the ultimate pimp slap to Taylor.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Taylor would provide value if used with any common sense. Bell is nothing special. Hughes could do alot of the same things Bell could except maybe that 75 yard run. Hughes is more of a fullback/tailback hybrid.

  • Laptad could be Mannelly the 2nd!!! LAPTAD. remember that name. he will set some "most games played" record for some team at long snapper in 15 years.

  • you should draft him on a keeper league waffle - 1st round!

  • Isn't he listed as backup DE??

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    He is a backup DE yes. He apparently also is a backup LS...

  • For some of you madden lovers.. in the madden 12..look at Major Wrights hit power.. it is a 95. Mother effer can hit.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    did u buy it already Artoo? How is it?

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Amazing but the bears are horrible on offense. Matt and Jay are great but after them the offense is horrible. The defense is legit. I can hang in there with anyone but on offense the bears are really like the bears.

    The best part is the hit stick is back and no tackle is the same.

    Last but not least, Urlacher and Briggs are clutch players, so if you have the bears and you are needing a turnover, they will make it happen.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    awesome. I'm prob gonna get it. Haven't bought it since needle dick was on the cover cuz I'm not about to spend 80 bucks for a roster update, but now i think Madden has changed enough for me to buy it. AND I was waiting for the Bears to go up in ratings...

  • And why isn't Knox starting again?

  • In reply to Artoo:

    because last year he didn't block well, didn't fight for passes, stopped on routes, couldn't get off a jam, didn't display the desire to improve any of that shit in season, etc.
    He will play well this year because he knows that shit will get taken away if he doesn't man up.

  • He looks like he is the one who should be asking Williams to carry his pads.

  • In reply to Artoo:

    Knox has skills. I think he will do well this year. Maybe he needed a little competition to bring out the best in him. we'll see.

  • does anyone else feel like Hester is going to take back a kick against the Falcons?
    I do and it's going to be a glorious way to start 1-0.

  • Babich has a pedophile-tastic mustache tonight.

  • so who's making this team? Addison or Reed?

  • well it's not going to be Addison. lost contain 3 straight plays.

  • I say Reed. Pressures more than Addison, which is all they want on certain downs.

  • Addison.

  • the browns backup running back looks like he is going to make the squad. Arman Smith??

  • Conte head injury out for game. How many safeties do we have left???

  • Nick Reed!!!! You magnificent gay haired bastard!!!

  • Kobe cries a little every time you say gay...

    Nick Reed is on the team. Damn, talk about a goal line stand. 5 attempts, no points!

    Venable is a heat seeking missile. He's gotta wrap up though.

  • Great run by Bell!!!!

  • Another great run by Bell!!! and 2 great blocks by Kyle Adams!

  • Enderle is not a pro quarterback. even for a rookie his awareness is lacking, he vision is lacking, his mobility is Collins-esque, he accuracy blows, his delivery is slow etc.

    Martz are you fucking serious?

  • Enderle does look out of his league. He holds onto the ball for waaay to long.

    Maybe we should just keep 2 qbs and keep guys like Reed, Venable, Levi Horn.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Venable just delivered a perfectly legal hit to the body of the receiver with his shoulder and got penalized for it for unnecessary rougness. there was nothing he could do other than let the guy catch it and fall to the ground. that is an unfortunate rule misapplied once again. unfuckingbelievable.

  • yup. Hits like that used to make NFL films. Now, they're used as evidence for Goodell to fine.

    Give me a fuckn break.

  • TAFK...that and the KO @35....fucking Godell

  • that call was shite

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    what is the rule exactly? it's not like the guy dropped it and then got hit afterwards as a vulnerable receiver. he caught the ball and Venable hit him with his shoulder. It was textbook.

    we should just run routes over the middle and have Jay throw it high every time so we can just get 15 yard calls every time and automatic first downs.

  • Textbook illegal. He "launched," which is prohibited. Doesn't matter if you hit a guy with your buttpad--if you "launch", you're violating. And if you're launching at a "defenseless" receiver, you're violating.

    As a former SS, I start to drool when I see a play like that. But then, I remember Dave Duerson, and I think of the changes pro football MUST make to keep guys from severe long-term injury--let alone crippling injuries from one impact.

  • the spirit of the rule was to cut down on Chuck Cecil type plays, leading with the helmet and using it as a weapon especially when the receiver was laid out. Venable hit him with his shoulder and he left the ground a bit because the dude was 4 fee in the air which means his body was almost 5 or 6 feet up. just another misapplied rule.

  • severe long term injury is fucking guaranteed when a 230lb running back runs full steam into a 250lb linebacker and they both run 4.5 in the 40.
    severe long term injury is guaranteed when you allow 290lb defensive ends to drill the quarterback from behind on a speed rush.
    If Venable had led with his head and used it as a weapon then fine his ass, thow the flag, etc. If he did it after a dropped catch or errant pass like the reason why the penalty was designed then eject the player and fine him.

    Venable didn't do any of that and the result was a hard but legal hit to the body of the receiver.

  • You know, I understand all that. But sometimes you have to wonder about these rules.

    So would it have been better for him to not launch, and instead run underneath and helicopter-endo him -- possibly (probably?) causing him to land on his head? Somehow I just don't see that as safer. I remember when that happened to Wayne Chrebet back in 2002 in Champaign -- he jumped to try and get extra yards and he got upended right onto his neck (and fumbled the ball in the process).

    Believe me, I am a strong advocate of enforcing rules as they are written -- to ensure they are fairly applied. But sometimes I just wonder if these safety-oriented ones do what they're intended to do... Eliminating that play tonight does not mean it would be have been replaced by something safer.

  • Venable the penetrable!

    (wait, that didn't sound right).

    Dude can lay down the wood. Shiite call, true that lobo.

  • nice slip on our wonderful shitturf...

  • wtf is the point of KO's any longer............it's as bad as softporn......no need for it

  • one good point for the HOF...skunk will be keeping that record for a long time..........

  • well we know that En"doh" ..........will be Martzy experiment child this year..WTF!

  • A "F"ING TAKEAWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Minor, right on que. We have a guy named Minor and Major, who would make a marvelous duo...ok, enough with the Jay Leno lameness.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    tee hee hee

  • Hughes! A little sweetness salute.

    Bell who?

  • Huey may make the practice squad........

  • great screen to bell and great td run by bell. solid!

  • has anyone seen Walters (#37) do anything so far this year? He looked pretty good in the few plays I've seen tonight, and if Conte and Steltz are wounded, it might be a UFA rookie as 2nd-string safety!

  • Walters and Venable had good games I thought. Venable esp is on the radar for both SP teams and back up. He just seems like a gamer.

  • hubard high domer having a hometown night

  • 2 safeties down?? Call Mike Brown!!

  • ten four ten four, starsky and hutch down, starsky and hutch down, rodger rodger, over.

  • RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice motor!!!!!!!!!!

  • SSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZSZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    REED YOU BEYOUCH!!! lol

  • OK, stay with me here:

    Why not cut Roy Williams?

    Does he bring THAT much more than Knox, Hester, Bennett, Sanzenbacher, and Hurd?

    Get rid of Roy, then you have an extra roster spot to pick up another Safety, or maybe that rookie UFA long snapper (who hustled his ass downfield and made the tackle at least once tonight)..

  • +1 I'm not sold on Roy Rodgers

  • I hear you but wait and see what a more talented version of DA will be like with Cutler not on his back the whole year.

    This offense is going to move the ball. Safety is now a huge issue depending on how bad the injuries are.

  • Williams will be good for 700 this year and will be a nice big target to throw to.

  • Mang I thought safety was a huge issue BEFORE any injuries. I don't like any of our safeties.

  • That's a possibility, esp if Steltz and/or Conte are injured - Major seems a little injury prone already - and Roy doesn't contribue to SP teams.

    But I think we gotta give Roy a little more time. If he doesn't perform better by mid-season, then we can get SP teamers - a lot of them are going to be cut this sat.

  • Cut Roy and we're back to a roster full of six foot nothings who don't bring any field-stretching capabilities. Hurd is down already. Roy's got a bigger body, knows the system, won't drop everything that comes his way. Sanzenbacher has apparently impressed a few of you pre-season ... against first string Defenses or no ? Does he know the playbook? I saw Sanz play last week and the little I saw of him he heard footsteps and dropped an easy ball.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Yes. Some, but not all of his reps/catches have been against 1st string.

    He looks good, but he definitely has his ups and downs. His ups look really good, but some of his downs look kind of bad. But I will say one thing, the guy plays hard.

    He also had a PR for a TD that was called back on a pretty questionable holding penalty (by Nick Reed who played pretty much every snap on defense and ST all night long).

    I think the kid has potential. But he's definitely not totally polished yet. Cutler, Hanie, Martz, Smith, and Drake all seem to like him though...

  • that was a bitch holding call. he had his whole body in front of him. could have gone either way.

  • spence lanning 57 yard punt. that is about 19 yards further than Maynard and 15 more than Podlesh. too bad he takes 4 steps to get the ball off.

  • last thought of the night:

    bring on Atlanta!

    Matty Ice DEAD!!!!!!

  • +100

    I'm out!

  • I remember when my college coach wanted to try me at punting. I had gotten away with 3 steps in high school, but that wouldn't fly in college.

    2-step punts feel fucking awkward as hell. Not because it's a shorter, quicker kick, but because you're taking your first step with your kicking foot. Feels wrong.

  • Madden 12's new physics engine must account for Pringles center of mass being down around his knees - hence the 95 hit rating.

    Just a theory.

    I hate to bitch, but Steltz got carried last year on IR and it ain't happening again. Grey Poupon left his feet to lay the wood, truly in the spirit of Doug Plank. Veneble makes the team, and Steltz injury better not have been serious.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hasn't pringles been whiffing his tackles thoguh?

  • ok, one more. i just ran across it and felt compelled to post it:

    http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/article_external/kris_humphries_doesnt_know_ray_j_yes_he_does/6497425

    Imagine kind of knowing your girl/wife is a whore. You kind of brush it off because it happended a couple of years ago...but then you have to come face to face with the failed rapper who went balls deep into your wife on video? Then she went from Ray J to Reggie Bush? C'mon mang, you know those guys didn't take it easy on her.
    Priceless.

  • i ran into my ex and her husband who is a good dude at a dinner party for mutual friends a year back. I didn't film it but it was college and she was aggressive and liked to bite the pillow and yell. It was awkward to say the least.
    Humphries has to deal with the video being on the internet into perpetuity...forever reminded of the fact that Kim took it in every entrance from fucking Ray J for god's sake! God bless 'Merica!!!

  • Honestly, Khalil Bell is Robert Hughes is "insert name of solid college undrafted FA running back".

    Bell is nice because he can play ST but if he goes down we still have Forte,Barber and Taylor not to mention a fullback and an H back that will still be on the roster so it's really no big deal if he is hurt.

    i don't see Taylor going anywhere, not now anyway.

  • Very interesting game. The 2nd half was actually much more entertaining than I thought it would be.

    He probably still won't make the team but damn Mike Hughes is a badass 5th string RB. I know he ran against 3rd stringers, but he showed some heart out there, busted some serious tail, and showed some moves -- the squeeze and power move at the goal line, a dive over the line for another goal line score, staying on his feet and driving for extra yards on that beautiful screen, and more.

    Kyle Adams had some great blocks, and could make it really hard for them to stash him on the PS. He actually might make the team.

    Nick Reed was a beast out there. Neither he or Addison was probably was making the team, but after that show he just might. He played the whole night on D and on ST, and was still making plays at the final whistle. That guy has a serious motor, and based on Marinelli's bubble story, that's the kind of guy that he likes for a final roster spot.

    Sanzenbacher... man. Like usual he has his (high) ups and his (low) downs. Muffed a punt return and had a couple ugly plays in there, but he had some real baller plays too. His PR for a TD was called back on a pretty questionable holding penalty. He really isn't the fastest guy or even the smartest guy, but he plays hard and tries to make plays. I'm pretty sure he was already making the team, but I really think he might have some surprise highlights this year.

    Haha, Laptad. That was a sweet ass run and tackle by the 100th-string DE acting as a long snapper. Probably no chance in hell he makes the roster, and possibly not even the PS, but thanks for a great play!

    I really don't know what to think about Veneble. The guy hits hard no question. Hard to say how well he played on defense. But more of an issue is I didn't notice him much on ST, which is the only real shot he has of making the roster. The one exception is maybe with injuries to Steltz and Conte.

    Ugh, I hope Bell isn't badly injured. Or Steltz. Injuries always have a negative impact on the lower end of the roster. We get injury fill-ins instead of bona-fide ST players. This highlights even more the luxury of having 4 good RBs. Remember the Packers last year carrying 5 RBs and needing every single one? If the Bears keep Taylor, I guess we'll never know if they planned to all along. But I suppose that won't stop the lambasters.

    Ok I leave you with a compilation of blue-chip and red-chip players by Michael Lombardi (no that's not me =) ), a national writer with some legit prior FO cred. Anyway he lists no Bears for offense, but lists 3 red-chippers and 1 blue-chip on defense... including props to Peanut! You guys might be surprised at his coaches list too... anyway check it out:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821b7605/article/blue-chips-and-red-chips-defensive-position-rankings

  • In reply to Michael L:

    Anyone who lists Eli Manning as a red-chip QB ......
    I love the smugness of Lombardi, sitting there, a human pie, telling ex-players what's what ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    nothing like a fucking nerd telling elite athletes who will be and who will not be successful.
    Lombardi is successful and eating ice cream out of the carton at 2 in the morning as he watches P90X infomercials and crys while he masturbates.

  • Watched none of the game, read a few comments.

    On the RW thing, fuck him. Throw the ball to Earl.

  • looking back i think securing Mays would have been nice. too bad Jerry offered the 49ers an old hackeysack from highschool and an old weathered copy of Oui magazine.instead of a 7th rounder in 2027.

  • Let's follow Mays career as a Bungle this year. Should be entertaining.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    no doubt that Manning is now looking like he should have been kept around. I like our starting safeties but it would suck to have to put an UFA in with the first team defense in case Starsky and Hutch are hurt and one of the starters goes down. Corey Graham played a bit of safety in 07 correct? oh god, my head hurt as i typed and thought that.

  • Not only did Kardashian get Par 3'd by rappers, now she has that NBA player's balls in a jar. TMZ had some sneaky video, she's telling him to stand up straight and tuck his shirt in. Brutal.

    American royalty. The modern Raquel Welch.

    Blech.

  • Briggs agent sent a letter to Halas Hall and then leaked it to the press. It is demanding a trade.

    Lambo Lance is kind of a douchebag.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Baby Mama's ain't cheap, and Illinois court sure as hell ain't his friend.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/219312-bears-star-linebacker-lance-briggs-baby-mommas-drama

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hoe%20biscuit

  • Fuck Lance Briggs. Love him on the field, but he is the biggest fucking piece of shit on the Bears. You signed the fucking contract, fuck head. Jerry is not going to trade him, he 's not going to give him an extra fucking dollar, and he shouldn't. 3 years left on your contract, and by that time it's up you'll be 34 and a step slower. Why the fuck would we re-do your deal now. Horrible timing Lance. Enjoy your current contract then enjoy a series of 1 year deals after your out of here in 3 years. You comic book reading fuck.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-spt-0902-lance-briggs-chicago-bears,0,1976638.story

  • right before the fucking season Lance? When we have a chance to go to the superbowl or at least have a great season? really?? fuck that motherfucker.

  • i don't pay much attention to this crap........the only skin a player has in this game is his performance on the field; so that level of play should always be there......

    i think i understood that he wants the $ 6mill moved up from the last year to this year .....the bears have some $19mill left

    this seems to be a requirement for athletes these days.....you better take some business classes and actually attend them while in college....they do this to themselves not realizing that someone is going to come along and trump the saleries in the middle of your contract.....union work in this union does not create a salary structure that is collective; where everybody is satisfied and willing to hold pat at their salary level; while being happy for future union members who up the level of positional payment; keeping the membership on a continual upward track that is in line with mgt. profits.

    the players take it way too personal when a "brother" gets more; they think it is a reflection on them...way too much ego... and not enough business sense.

    as a union worker you always have to keep a high standard of output because you are also working for the schmo who will be in your shoes 10 years from now

    it must be hard figuring out how to make a living on 3mill when you are looking at the piles of cash the rest of the millionaries are sinking their teeth into; .....i can't blame greed and ego they are hard emotions to control......

  • listening to the radio talking heads last night in swfla where the dolfinks and buccaneers always are on tv at the wrong times:

    they were excited by the play of the beer brothers:
    lienenkugel and bachbeer

    lienenkugels snaps and ability to get some push impressed
    he may become a diamond in the mud 0f the trenches

  • a couple of thoughts on the king from s.i. castle

    he says were headed for a pair of 8's this season
    then he trashes the line pretty quickly, not really giving jwebb much of a chance; and not even mentioning any signs of improvement from players like williams and webb and garza filling in admirably at center

    he said nothing about any player development that has already been pointed out here throughout the spring

    i am thinking that there will be some people jumping on the bandwagon if we handle his superbowl winning falcons week 1

    he had a few good things to say about the day tice first saw carimi and became smitten by the isrealite; while watching his son play q.b. at wisc. ......he saw nfl technique and was suprised that the isrealite could be so accomplished

    i will close with tice's 6 p's
    Perfect Practice Prevents Piss Poor Performance

    nobody is talking about us.....i like that

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