Camp Starts For Real Tonight

Camp Starts For Real Tonight

With news now officially circulating that the NFLPA will approve the new CBA, it appears all these hundreds upon hundreds of new team signings will finally be able to practice with their new teams.  So what is worth following in Bourbonnais as the Bears start training camp for real.


Based on Mike Martz predicting 70-80 catches and a million yards for Roy, we can all assume he'll be lined up as the top receiver on the phantom depth chart.  Monitoring his chemistry with Cutler and his impact on Hester, Knox and Bennett will be keeping the Twitter accounts of Biggs, Jensen and the ESPN Chicago boys turned up to eleven.


Assuming Chris Spencer steps into the middle of the line, sliding Garza back to right guard, the Bears will certainly spend the next few days experimenting with different combinations across the line.  (My bet is they'll settle in Webb at LT and Carimi at RT in short order.)  I will not be surprised, however, if a player like Lance Louis bounces Chris Williams out of a job.


Bowman?  Jennings?  Graham?  The Bears do not have an established starter to line up opposite Charles Tillman.  They'll need one soon.  (Side note: How much are we going to all miss Peanut when he decides to move on?  He's quickly becoming an all-time Bear.)


Is there any chance Vernon Gholston or Amobi Okoye can fulfill the promise of their lofty draft-day expectations?  Can Rod Marinelli insert them into the rotation regularly and being to pull from them what the Bears seem to have begun pulling from Henry Melton and Corey Wootton?

It's going to be a fun camp.

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  • I've never been so excited for camp before. I think the %$#@! lockout and the compressed acquisition schedule has made it far more interesting than usual. Hey, maybe they should do this every year!

    Thanks for retweeting the interesting bits -- I'm just following you and Your Boy Roy but I think I get everything good that way.

  • I'm getting amped for the SECOND stage of this camp thing.

  • #1 RW should do pretty well in providing that big bodied "go up & get it guy" for Cutler as well as a huge endzone target.

    #2 Webb, Creampuff, Garza, Luis, Carimi

    #3 No clue as to who might win that spot opposite Peanut. Will they give Graham a chance to compete this year? I have been a fan of Tillman since his rookie year with us. However, I'm not sure how much I will miss him getting burned AT LEAST once a game, resulting in huge plays or missing routine tackles for touchdowns while trying to strip the ball (As he receives so much praise for). When its time, let him go. Just Sayin'

    #4 Hopefully we can see a resurgence from those guys. I'd still like to think they will have to earn it. I'm a big Melton fan after the type of play he demonstrated in limited action last season.

    #5 Taylor Mays just hit the fuckin' market boys! & I want 'em! That is one hard hittin' sonofabitch.

    Brs4lyf (My new CA License Plates)

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Taylor Mays fucking blows. He is Daniel Manning with a higher pricetag minus the kick return skills. And whats with shitting all over peanut? Give the man his due. He's been our best corner for a decade

  • Stache, I'm pretty sure I stated that I have been a fan of his over the last decade. Just because I'm a fan of his doesn't mean that it doesn't piss me off when he gets torched AT LEAST ONCE A GAME. Tell me I'm wrong & we can agree that each other are wrong.

    Everyone gets a hard-on when he racks up another fumble. Including me. (I'm rockin a semi right now just thinking about it haha)
    But the number of routine tackles that are missed going after those strips definitely shrivels that excitement for me.

    I don't think pointing out those opinions really constitutes as "Shitting all over Peanut" Hahaha

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    "I'm rockin a semi right now"


  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    You are wrong...Getting burned once a game? Do you watch the games? He rarely gets burned. I'd say a few times per year, not once a game. If he got burned once a game, he would be a shitty corner and he's probably be out of the league by now. You spread poop on the peanut

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Peanut to Nickel? Let Graham and Bowman take over at corner.
    Not liking what I've seen of Chris Spencer, please tell me he's our backup center ....

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Agreed with everyone on Mays. We don't need another hard hitter that is a liability in coverage, or misses tackles.

    I'm watching the USC highlight vid you posted, and what strikes me is how often he relies on the shoulder/chest ram tackle... that and arm tackles. That shit won't get it done in the NFL -- it's great for highlight reels, but when the receiver is a little faster or a little more elusive what you get is a massive burn instead of a big hit. We don't need that.

  • In reply to Michael L:

    I hear ya. Point taken. Just don't feel great about Harris back there either.

  • Stories on teh Googlez about Farve getting a possible offer from the Fish to backup and mentor Henne.


  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    There is a reason Mays is out there. I don't know what it is, but from what I've read (Sports Illustrated Tony Pauline), he can't turn his hips well and is extremely poor defending the deep ball.

    That said, once Singletary put him in for the niners, he played pretty well. He'd be an upgrade from Chris Harris, but as everyone knows, I am so off the Harris bus.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I hear you, but I'd LOVE to have that kid laying mofo's out back there. (I miss Mike Brown). Harris was serviceable last year. He is a great hitter but I think he's slow and not very great against the deep ball either. There are reasons why we traded him away 3 yrs or so ago. Ya know?

    I think he has a lot of potential. Manning wasn't so good in coverage until last year. It can take time for young kids to sharpen their mechanics but I think Mays will be a hell of a player in this league.

  • Football :
    #2 - Chris Williams should kick World Wide Webb to the curb.

    Reality ? 15 trillion dollar debt. Forget about football for a month (fantasy leagues aside, and there's still two spots available in DBB II see last thread, as well as this shit cos I just posted it b4 Jeff posted this). But world apocalypse is imminent ... so STFU!

    {Collective groan: "Not again Irish!}


    Men, you were talking about your little kids today. Little tikes, little nippers. Do you love them? Do you really love them? Do you want a country for them to grow up in - the country you grew up thinking was free? Well it's not free and the Fed owns your ass hook line and sinker, it owns the forests and national parks and it owns your very own fucking birth certificates - you were all put up as collateral in a loan made in 1933 from the 'Fed' to the government to keep it solvent and people had better wake up really quickly and get with it.

    Viva La Revolucion!

    Fkn spread the word boys!! I'm backed up with Fox news jism mangs! No choice, BBC is boring. But FOX – are you for real?? 24 hours of DEBT!DEBT!DEBT! Obama’s a cunny! We owe 15 gazillion dollars because Obama's a baaad man! And nobody, NOBODY mentions why. Even Ron Paul – who has hounded Bernanke and Geithner before him – always stops just short of saying what he wants to scream from the rooftops … because he remembers what happened to JFK. He's afraid.That jism-guzzler Sean Hannity actually had the cajones today to say that We/You/The People were 15 trillion in debt because of medic-aid-care-whatever ... @#%^#@%$%$ Hot jiminy cricket ! He says it like he actually believes it!! Is he a genius plant? Not with that hair methinks! What a Johnny!

    And speaking of hair - there's Trump saying he "doesn't want to be president, but he’ll have to step in unless the economy improves” … when it can’t improve ...ever ...not under the Federal reserve system.

    "Where will the jobs come from Mr. Trump?" chirps sugar-tits (and have you seen FOX legal? Mwah!)
    "Why China! We'll take em back from China! It's easy!"
    And no explanation! Sound-bite given ...cheesy grin ... wave ...job done! "I'll vote for him!" thinks America. "He knows what he's talking about!"

    Yeah ! Screwing YOU!!

    Fifteen trillion. It's got nothing to do with the fact that every dollar bill printed comes with a wodge-load of interest attached to it - nothing whatsoever - interest that has to be paid off every year by printing more money that has MORE fucking interest on it and THEN IT GETS HANDED STRAIGHT BACK TO THE ‘FEDERAL’ RESERVE. A bunch of sheister banks controlled by Evelyn De Rothschild ! The satanic spawn that have been there since the dawn of banking!! CHRIST! It's like a bad trip! And nobody says a word!! The biggest fattest smelliest elephant that ever sat in a room, literally firing crap out of its anus like a muck-spreader!! The interest to the Fed is continually compounded ! Fifteen trillion will be nothing in a few years! People will be saying “Ya remember when the debt was only FIFTEEN trillion?”


    Please, is there a very wealthy person out there who gets this? Is there not one wealthy celebrity with a spare few million who could pay for ads to be made and then shown on TV in between American Gladiators and Survivor? A nice little Sesame Street thing that explains where money comes from and how the Rothschilds are bumming you all daily from England! Have you SEEN David de Rothschild - the Jesus look-a-like ?? How scary is he? Parading the planet as this fkn eco-warrior telling us to recycle our plastic and turn off our lights !!! WTF !! Heir to half the planet's fucking wealth!! HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS made off your misery and the rape of the planet and he's acting like the son of God !! And it's against the U.S. constitution! What's the point of having a constitution then? Why bother?

    Deep breath. Yes, lots of serenity ... 90 seconds ... re-focus ... relax ... and breathe ....

    NO! DAMMIT !! Where are the wealthy who see the scam ?? Help your brothers and sisters and children and grandchildren! Help them all!! Educate your children, educate yourselves take back your currency and ask yourselves why the most powerful nation the world has ever known is fifteen trillion dollars in debt. Tom Cruise - you sir ! You talk about wanting to help people?! Help them !! Pay for a ninety second ad just once!! It would be headline news except that it wouldn't be headline news because you-know-who has a finger in every pie of every news station and newspaper the world over or their finger up the asses of those who do, because you-know-who isn't on any of the rich-lists topped by paupers like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. He’s practically the invisible man to a world full of people that have too much shit to contend with to care who's running the world .... the resat are ignoramuses he helped dumb down! But we’re watching you …. Mr. Evelyn De Rothschild … we’re watching you and all of your satanic spawn ...we're watching, and you haven't RF-chipped us yet. No serenity until you burn in the lake of fire where you belong.

    “If Americans ever allow banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws."
    - Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
    -Henry Ford

    "Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States" — Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)

    "We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it". — Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

    "We are completely dependant on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system.... It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon." — Robert H. Hamphill, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank

    "A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." — President Woodrow Wilson

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The
    issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."
    - Thomas Jefferson

    "To expose a 15 Trillion dollar rip-off of the American people by the stockholders of the 1000
    largest corporations over the last 100 years will be a tall order of business." — Buckminster Fuller

    "Every Congressman, every Senator knows precisely what causes inflation...but can't, [won't] support the drastic reforms to stop it [repeal of the Federal Reserve Act] because it could cost him his job." — Robert A. Heinlein

    "...the increase in the assets of the Federal Reserve banks from 143 million dollars in 1913 to 45 billion dollars in 1949 went directly to the private stockholders of the [federal reserve] banks." — Eustace Mullins

    Yes, get angry ....

    It’s time to get mad, people, it’s time ….

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Is this DaBears Blog? Or did I somehow stumble into Irish's wacky world of finance?

  • I suggest a strict course of melatonin.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And maybe some scotch and cigars, Irish.
    Your anger is correct - the focus is so wildly misplaced though.

  • Dbb often turns into an episode of the Young Ones.

    Irish is Neil. You're Vivian. Mb is rick. Im Yurri and Al is the police. Mbp is Lemmy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My mates called me Neil growing up. Bastard GP! I thought Coach was Mike? MB is (p)Rick !! Ahahhhaaa !!! MB - he called you Rick. Phrrshhh!

    We are the Young Ones, and school's out ....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    HEY!! Why the fuck do I have to be rick? I always thought I was more of a Mike:

    Fucking brilliant btw...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bottom and Filthy Rich and Catflap were good too ... if anyone hasn't seen therm, it was just Ade Edmondson and Rik Mayall.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think I am flattered. Minus the facial warts.

  • No Coach, that would be Ned Beatty's world of finance circa, oh, 'Network' also ....

    Now we return you to normal programming ......


  • In reply to IrishSweetness:


  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    RE: Your comment about the bears before your well crafted rant.

    Chris Williams is a Creampuff!

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Tee hee!

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Did you ever watch Gladiator Irish? The mob is too busy being entertained while the Caesar's destroy the country. Look around, there aren't any Maximus's left. China ain't gonna be too happy when we can't pay them back.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    1. Ron Paul for Prez

    2. I shorted the S&Ps today +31.25

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    In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Irish, were I here earlier, I would congratulate/cajole you on a wildly entertaining, very "crazy person" rant. Alas, I tend to agree with most of what you have to say (working in the financial services training industry)... Unfortunately, I worry that this again appeals to the typical American ideal of "it's everyone else's fault. Someone fix it for me." line of thinking. I realise that you're not party to this, but it seems like pandering to the lowest common denominator.

    We Americans are pussies. Let’s be honest. The entire financial crisis (though based on a disturbing dependence on the Fed) stems from idiots who happily said “I’d love that $350,000 home loan. I don’t care that I make $15,000 a year tending bar at Applebee’s.”

    The dependence on the Fed stems from ignorance. Granted. But more than anything, it speaks to a lack of personal responsibility on each of our parts. Deal with your own shit. The government can, and will, fuck you. “But it’s Obama’s fault” says the right. “But Bush got us here” says the left. “But it’s your dependence on an organization completely outside the confines of American law” says the outside observer.

    Final conclusion – stop fucking blaming others. We’re all getting fucked. It’s whether you bend over and take it like Ned Beatty, or fight your way out like you’re in an episode of Oz, that speaks to you true character – regardless of nationality. Figure your own shit out.

    So. In conclusion… I’m just home from winning a fucking USSSA division championship in slow fat guy softball. I’m feeling my oats… Ignore everything I just said. Except the part where I said “I’m fully on board with Barber getting short yardage first downs, and RW making Cutler look less stupid.”

    Rodgers – clearly dead. (My boy Melton will eat his kids for lunch)
    Stafford – already dead (I think my 19 month old just sacked him and broke his shoulder)
    McFlab – still alive. (simply because Pringles et. Al were too busy intercepting his horribly inaccurate passes for me to even care that Melton/Pep/the newly trim Wooton/Izzy ripped his face off.

  • In reply to Beavo66:

    Well put Beavo. It has been said that people get the governments they deserve, but I never bought that. We should look out for each other, because those nobs in Congress and the senate aren't looking out for you. They don't give a damn it seems ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    The USA is moribund and I believe no reversal is possible.

    So yes, Irish, the curtain has risen on Act I. The total failure of the US government to even begin to fix anything, followed by (good gracious friggin' GOD it's about time!) a US credit rating downgrade by a major ratings firm. Weiss Ratings [no affiliation] downgraded the US to a C-, barely about "junk" bond status some time back. This will likely, in their eyes, put US Treasuries firmly in the junk category

    I know you hate the banks, Irish, and with good reason. But their come-uppance is nigh, at least the commercial banks not part of the inner circle of the cabal (Fed Reserve banks are of course immune). Short them.

  • I say leave Taylor Mays on the scrap heap. He's a looks like Tarzan plays like Jane guy. There was a whole lot of scouts that said he would have a hard time transitioning to the pros. If he can't turn his hips his hitting ain't gonna do nothin unless the guy just runs straight at him. One little juke and it's all over. I think manning was better than Mays. You didn't see Pete Carroll making a play to get him. He knew his weakness, and was smart enough to know he was a bad gamble. Thats one I say stays on the scrap heap.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:

    You guys are right, looks like a chump. No amount of coaching or practice can improve someone's mechanics like "hip turning skills or backpedaling".

    6'3 - 230 lbs.
    40-Yard Dash 4.43
    Bench press 24
    Vertical jump 41.0
    Mays possesses one of the most distinguished resumes of any prospect, regardless of position, in this year's draft. He was the PAC-10 Co-freshman of the year in 2006 when he registered 62 tackles and 6 interceptions. He followed his outstanding freshman campaign with a 65 tackle, 1 interception and 1 forced fumble season in 2007.Mays was voted to the Sporting News Magazine's first Team All American after the season; had a solid 53 tackle year in 2008. For his action, AP named him to their first team All-American squad. He also was a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award, which is given to the nation's best defensive back. The 6-foot-3 safety is one of the best pure athletes in this draft, blessed with uncanny athleticism and agility. Solidly built with raw power, he possesses incredible range and even better coverage awareness. Shows the acceleration and sheer speed to assist cornerbacks over the top. Has top notch closing burst and pursuit speed to rundown ballcarriers and stay with WRs downfield. On the downside, he is not the most punishing hitter. Can be overaggressive and tends to miss some tackles in space. He is a low, drag-down tackler. Will stop moving his feet and lunge at the ballcarrier. Has not shown the hip turning skill many scouts covet and his backpedaling needs more work. Lacks the fluidity to move on a dime. Can be fooled by play action and double pup fakes, which allows receivers to get behind him.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    I've been a well-known Mays homer/man crushee for 2 years now.

    Yes, how can the above possibly be an upgrade from Harris? Really?

    Look guys, if we can get him cheap we need to make this pick up, plain and simple. Throw him in at fucking rover on 1st and 2nd downs… or just make him an in-box SS on run downs for christ sake…. The dude is fucking 6’3” 230 and runs a 4.4!!!! And I can’t even believe that said he’s not a punishing hitter, that is just silly.

    Lastly... what in thee fuck is a 'pup’ fake?!?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Im not sure but, I think thats what Vick got in trouble for.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Other than the fact that Mays got drafted in the 2nd round, I don't
    know squat about this Mays kid everyone keeps talking about. My gut tells me that he ain't worth squat if the Niners emailed every team for a possible trade. Why would a team that had several of their best players hightail it outta town want to trade a salvageable player that could help them? If the Bears can get him on the practice squad for Olsens ball bag he left in his locker then maybe baby. Otherwise, lets hope the Cheese pick him up.

  • Viva la Gold Standard!

  • Is it time to post the angry Irishman clip again? In all seriousness though, nice rant, solid, but perhaps a bit premature.

    On a Bears related note, we need Jay to be great. Not good. Great.

  • In last year's Redskins game, I though McNabb looked lost at times. What a terrible game that was, with Cutler throwing it away.

    At first I chalked up McNabb to just not being a Shanny & Son kinda guy, but I don't think he will have an Indian Summer in his career, esp. with Percy Harvin, Iglasias and Shabba as his wideouts.

    Stafford has to prove it. I haven't written the kid off, but he's WAY down my FF list and I think the Lions will suck yet again.

    No - the NFC North comes down to Cutler vs. Rodgers. And frankly, Cutler has a ways to go to be in Rodgers class. But he looks ready to shut the Jeff George nags down this year, so let's hope Tice can keep him upright.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that is the only... ONLY… question for the 2011 season GP.

    Can the line play even middle of the pack football consistently all year? If yes, we have a legit shot at the title... if it's just last 3 years redux, we're fucked... and so is cutty and various necessary body parts.

    I honestly think we've gotten better everywhere else on the field or are just as good… AS LONG AS we have some more injury luck at key spots. Mostly Lach and Briggsy. I think we’d be able to at least not implode if we lost peanut (god forbid), and we have enough safeties now to at least be able to play the game, IF we pick up Mays. Better/deeper at TE, RB, DL, and WR.

    Holy shit… did you see how positive that post was? No, I was not abducted by aliens boys, just getting little excited for the season!

    Fag-belt rodgers… FUCKING DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jesus, that game was inexplicable...and for it to be DeAngelo Hall, of all the CB's that you put in Canton...ugh, Cutty - please don't do that again anytime soon.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Staff is a great matchup QB in fantasy I think, rarely gets drafted, but can pop up with a 4 TD barnstormer ... he's good to have on the bench.
    My $0.02

  • Oh darn, time for doom and gloom again. Just when we were looking forward to the 295lb Melton:

  • Barber setting the tone at practice tonight.
    Williams tweaked his calf in the very first practice but Cutler is excited about him and says he's going to be huge for the Bears.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Spencer looks huge compared to Olin even though Olin was a bad mofo.

  • Even though the lockout wiped out the entire offseason program, Marinelli is confident that the defense won’t take long to revert to the unit that ranked second in rushing yards allowed, third in opponent passer rating and sixth in third down efficiency last season.
    The Bears gave up a lot of passing yards last season, but I think the passer rating and points allowed are more important. The D played great in the Championship Game once they figured out every play was at Jennings. The almighty Rodgers had a 55 QB rating in the game.
    I think Clay Matthews is the next Shawn Merriman. Unless he finds a new undetectable steroid, his career will be nothing after this year, if he doesn't get caught this year.

  • ***Bears cornerback Tim Jennings.

  • Jeff, just curious, but who else is in the all time bear category for you?

    And to be fair, lets say, who in your lifetime makes that list?

    I got Olin, Big Cat, Mike Brown, Urlacher, Hester and Mannelly off the top of my head

  • I was very nervous about these various moves. But looking at what's going on in the NFC North with Detroit and GB I like the bold approach. For so long in Chicago it seemed we made one move and hoped that would fix everything. But within the last 3 years this team has made many, identity changing, important, and risky moves. I like it, they are trying to win. A far cry from the Wanny days when the Bears reminded me of the Cubs where they were content to sell out the stadium but not field a contender. We have that now and I love it when analysts are surprised when we win and make it to the NFC championship when most didn't even have us in the playoffs. I love this team and am proud to be a fan. Bear Down!!

  • In reply to waynealonscott:

    Cool name.

  • @Maxx - Briggs, don't forget Briggs.

  • In reply to waynealonscott:

    and... Alex Brown? Thomas Jones?

  • In reply to Urlacher FTW:

    maybe Booker... just cuz there arent enough O guys

  • FA goings on:

  • Jericho Cotchery was released today from the Jets. He threatened to hold out because the Plax signing disrespected him, so Ryan disrespected him some more by cutting him outright.

    + 6 Pretzel M&Ms for Nepotism Footstink Boy.

    Cotchery has game left, he could be had for a song, and he wouldn't threaten BoyRoy's ego as the #1. He could fight Knox and Hurd for PT.

  • In reply to gpldan:

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I didn't say Bennett because I believe that Bennett was such a force in the slot last year, that he cemented himself as the slot guy this year, unless he shows up out of shape.

    I think Lovie handed three ring punch hole sheets with a divider tab that said "I-formation" to Martz, and TOLD Martz "Put these plays back in the damn book" and that we will be seeing the return of fullback based football in Soldier Field.

    When I go up to camp, the main thing I will be looking for is what the use of the FB is.

    More I and offset I, and less single back, will mean less Bennett on 1st down at least - so the 1 and 2 will be competitive. I expect a lot of Roy and Knox and Hurd to rotate at 2. Cotchery would make a nice rounded out mix there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And lastly, no I don't mentioned Hester.

    I think Cutler will have lobbied, and rightly so, for Hester to be nothing more than a diversion guy. Long side of the field he may line up just to pull the safeties back, and threaten the long ball, but simply not in the rotation very often and headed back to concentrate on kick and PT.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i agree on Hester but i think Cotchery ripped his groin and if i'm not mistaken had to have surgery on it. I see that as a lingering injury which sucks for him. Groins don't go away.

    I wish they used Hester better but they don't.
    Williams is going to kill it this year. The confidence is key, if he has it he will get over 1,000 yards and if he doesn't we'll get 700. Martz and Lovie are pumping him up because they know it all about the mental for our boy Roy.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Jerry is probably all inspired by Sanzenbacher and that kid will get the LaFavor treatment. Everyone will get Tommy Waddle visions in their head and that will be that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP - i am super bears homer but i also know football and have played as well as coached and the guys that i am most excited about this year are

    Okoye - put up better than AA numbers in Houston in a system not designed for him. Drafted as a man child but his skills will be maximized with proper coaching. Marcus Harrison is gone.

    Williams - big target whose mental state controls his physical actions like a puppet does a puppermaster. If he has confidence and success early on with Cutler there will be fireworks like we haven't seen in Chicago in a while. Marcus Robinson type shit.

    Wootton - the farther he gets away from that college knee injury the better. This offseason would have been amazing for him working with pro trainers to completely rehab and strengthen the knee.

    Forte/Barber - that combo is going to work for us this year. Barber is finally healthy after TEARING his quad, a brutal injury that he felt he had to play through or else lose his job...and he was right. We'll see visions of old Barber this year and his presence on the goal line with Spencer, Garza, Carimi and Spaeth firing out on the right side should make for some redzone success.

    Cutler - I think his mind is right, he's in shape and Martz will put him in more positions to succeed this year than last. Big targets and Jay's fucking cannon are good combo.

    Martz - i put Martz in here because people forget that this is his contract year as well. Martz's coaching career is on the line so look for balance and RESULTS early instead of blind reliance on the 1999-2003 Rams model offense. He is going to use the shit out of Forte this year and he will be rewarded with a contract extension.


  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    If I head up there, Wooten is another guy I will be looking at. He needs to step it way up in his sophomore year, although he gets +45 Pretzel M&M points for ending Farve's career.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Johnny... I've almost done that many times... at least you didn't sign off with your entire real name.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Great post. Okoye had about 44 tackles and 4 sacks in 2010. If the Texans didn't switch to a 3-4, he'd still be there. He's only like 24, and he took less money to work with Marinelli, which makes me like him that much more.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That was a pretty awesome catch in fairness.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Game? Game? Did you say game? Take the time to look at his stats. The guy has had one decent year out of 7 and averages 433 yards and 2 Td's a season. LOLOL Man if you arent writing crazy shit you are thinking crazy shit. GO BEARS.......................lolololol

  • In reply to #16 Bears Fan:

    Oh Max, you are so transparent

  • In reply to #16 Bears Fan:

    Seriously, fuck the hell off. Remember when I went to the Packers board and did a #16 impression? Yeah, it was played out then. But it was 100x more funny to troll those cheese dicks than you are.

    Cotchery will get a no guarantee camp contract to try and make it somewhere. He'd be more useful than Fantuz is.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    agreed, can't use a huge white gunner on punt team that runs a 4.8
    Cotchery is like the poor man's Santonio Holmes and that is actually a compliment.

  • I think Olin will end up on the Ravens, who already lost their center with a knee issue,0,1294917.story

  • Just to piss you off for the pre-season:

    and then to kick it up a notch:

    just saying


    p.s. Irish I'm moving to Canada or maybe Ireland!....... what do you think?

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Canada is decent but they tax the hell out of ya

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    At least if you move to Ireland you won't have to worry about skin cancer.

  • In reply to #76 Mongo Murph:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Panthers and Bungles at 100-1. Ha ha.

    No love for the Cammarcus Newtonian Russface QB.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP....I know damn 100 to 1...ouch!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Damn people are gonna pay out 28-1 on the Bears now and 7-1 on the fudge. I'll be in Reno at the end of this month for the Best of the West Rib Cook-off so you konw I'll be laying a benjamin on the Bears! Those odds are beautiful! I hope the locker room still revels in the underdog role.

    And having visited both nations for prolonged periods I would say Ireland. Galway is a pretty sick little town and Dublin is world famous for a reason.

  • Galway rocks! Yeah, I'd definitely live in Galway if I had to live there again. Just for the Galway race festival alone. But the craic, the pubs, the music - you're withing striking distance of a lot of beautiful places. Kerry is beautiful and has great people too. I named one of my daughters after Kerry.

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Galway is the tits Irish! Great craic. Music, food, people are chill, and right by the water. Checking out the Inishmoore people and their gaelic ways is a trip. I felt like I was in Utah watching the Mormons. County Kerry is a buetiful place.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Best thing about Galways is it's a college town so you get a great nightlife and music scene along with the cutest chicks I saw while in Ireland. That being said... there arent a lot of cute chicks in Ireland. I think all the hot chicks dies in the famine or something. lol

  • Hell yea Sac, but I tend to differ on the cute chick front. There were tons in Dublin when I lived there. The most buetiful eyes (and brains) I've ever seen. They play that prude religious game at first, but if you break that layer, you're in for a good time. My guy roomates and I made a bet who could bang the most Irish girls in a 6th month span. We each put up 250 euros. I crushed them, but did take on a close to 6 foot red head with a peach fuzz hair lip to pad my stats and ensure victory.

  • In reply to Crown:

    No kissing ensued, just banging.

  • In reply to Crown:

    respect has just been re-established. thank you for the clarification.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Literally, "in it to win it".

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Never been there. But seriously, Ireland's fkd. They bailed out the banks and mortgaged the country's future. Nice people, but the weather sucks.

  • Biggsy twitter says that Ta'tou'fu looks like the FB beast. I have heard nothing on how UngaBunga looks or is running.

    Ta-tofu + Barber should equal no more of these can't punch it from the one yard line bullshit

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was about to say..what happend to Unga.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I heard, and threw this out last year... that Tofu was the real deal at cal. He catches VERY well out of the backfield and is a stud FB... he is also pretty fast so he can break a longer run too.

    I'm a fan of giving him a real try this year... seems like he'd be god if given a chance. Tongan warrior-style.

  • O.K. I love to here this about Cutty:

    Now Tice TIME!!! get our line cooking so Cutty is not throwing on his back and this could be some fun this season.

  • I Likey:

    “It felt good. It was fun,” Williams said. “This is the best offense I’ve ever been in, ever been a part of. This is real football here, a lot of conversions, a lot of reading defenses. This is what the NFL is all about.”


    Sorry, was this posted already? Just got home and I'm tired. Our Boy Roy breaking down Chris Spencer. Short n curlies ...

    Profootballfocus had him 27th in their Center rankings 2010. Graded out as one the worst pass-blocking Centers over the last three years.

    500K ....

  • In reply to IrishSweetness:

    Irish, maybe the Bears signed him to play Left Tackle. Yuk yuk.

  • "Au Revoir: Chris Spencer really struggled in 2010. After showing potential in pass pro in 2009 he took a step back last season and now the Seahawks have to decide if that was a blip or a sign of his true abilities."

    I think they voted on that one.

  • So Bears v Raiders tickets are on sale at Stub Hub. If you're in Cali and want to join us let me know. I'll try and find a section with enough seats available together. I have a group of about 10 right now. Fres and company?

  • Yea brotha Im down. I might head out with my Brother in Law(hes a raider fan). He tells me thought that Ill get jumped and stupid shit like that. Let me know what you get and shoot me a price.

  • Raiders fans are nuts!!!! Especially, the women. Brutal.

  • In reply to Crown:

    why would you say that crown?

  • In reply to MB30SD:
    Most those guys are lawyers and doctors etc. Raiders tix are actually more than the Niners tix. I went to that Niners Bears game where Cutler just gave the game away at the end. I got into it with more than one Niner far throught the game and saw more fights there than I've seen at any game in Oakland.

  • Yo Sac, the tix are already on sale? damn. I may be in on that even though I'm a little strapped 4 cash right now. When are u going to buy them? I live in L.A. and this may be the closest the Bears come (I checked out the S.D. preseason game last year).

    Funny Raider story (when they were in L.A.)

    My first football game was the Bears against the Raiders at the Colosseum. Now, any one that knows L.A. knows that the area around the Collosium is GHETTO. I was probably about 12 or so, and we were looking for parking around the neighborhood, and I literally saw 4 big ass dudes MOVE A CAR so that they could park there. I was like "holy shit, what the hell did I get myself into".

    To make things worse, my step-dad is a white-boy Bronco fan who wore his Bronco hat, and my sister back in the day was smoking hot, not to mention I wore my Bears gear, so I was prepared to die that.

    Miraculously, no one fucked with us. Luckily, Bears fans travel well, and the Raiders don't hate us. However, there were more than a few fights around us, but it was mostly among themselves lol

    Talk about Trial by Fire.

  • btw, Braylon to 9ners today. $3M, 1 yr

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    just 1 million unless he makes the probowl and has 90 catches and then it's over 3 mil.


    rodgers dead

  • Teeeebooooow.

    Check the comments, they are funny:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i spit Coke out of my nose the other day reading a seamingly innocent piece on David Garrard's back injury. The first response to the article indicated that Garrard threw his back out lugging around his huge black penis.

    It was so unexpected that i couldn't stop laughing for a couple of minutes.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    I hope Pringles back is healthy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    exactly... speaking of lugging around a huge black penis...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Suddenly, Neckbeard is a popular guy.

    "We want Orton!" chants are happening in both Denver and Miami.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    if they saw his neckbeard up close they would clutch their children close to them for fear of the pedo-neckbeard.

    When his neck is scruffy and his face has odd patches of stringy hair he looks like sex offender.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I have a lot of respect GP... hopefully someone gives him the respect his game deserves.

    Now, grossman? FUUUUUCK Rex!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    they were also chanting "We want Favre!"

    Pretty much, the chant should go, "We want anyone but Henne!" But I guess that doesn't have as much ring.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I enjoyed comment 9 rather much, viz

    "Tebow coming to grips with manhood" Is that a euphemism?

  • Good Luck Olin:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    more insight:

    would love to see what they $$$ for one year to Olin

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I want to know what the number was, too. How many pretzel m&ms less than 4 million.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I bet it was around 4 mil. Olsen wouldn't have signed for less.

  • In reply to BigDaddy:

    I mean Olin

  • In reply to gpldan:

    How about $2 million on a one year deal. I think Olin was getting a veteran's bump and didn't even realize it.

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    I can't believe this shit. Olin signed with the Saints for 2-3 mil. WTF?

    Olin is perhaps the biggest casualty of the lockout. When the Bears told him 4mil/1yr take it or leave it, he thought that it was a fuck you ultimatum, when in reality that's what every team was doing due to the crazy frenzy. Angelo said that when he inquired about Spencer in the morning awaiting Kruetz's decision that by the afternoon his price already went up, so he couldn't just sit around while Olin mulled over his existential crisis.

    Nnamdi himself said that teams asked him if he was interested in them, and Nnambdi replied "Give me a little while to think about it" and you know what teams told him? "Sorry, we don't got five minutes, we need to know now"

    Olin, you could have played for 2mil more and retired with the team you gave your hear to for 13 years!

  • In reply to 4ever85:


  • In reply to 4ever85:

    You just answered your own question bro. He wanted respect from the franchise he played his career for. I think I agree with your football analysis more than anyone else on this site.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    As Angela was trying to buy gold cheaply, the price of fish was rising .... hmmm ... clash of the egos?

    Spencer. Sucks.

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Even other fans know Angelo is a dumb-ass, and thta we down-graded our center when we were supposed to be upgrading the line.

    A comment from a reader on the Trib :

    Aints_No_More at 6:21 AM August 6, 2011

    Saints fan here ... We needed an experienced center because we recently lost our 3 year starter to the 49er's. THANK YOU CHICAGO! We are grateful to have Olin Kreutz. We have tremendous respect for his abilities ... especially since his embedded Achilles bone spur has been remedied. I understand Olin's had the most productive, painfree off-season workouts since 2008. We also appreciate the fact that Olin knows your offense inside and out (not to mention your defense) which I'm sure will come in handy when the Bears come to the Superdome in September. Please feel free to jettison any other All- Pro players on your roster ... what about BRIAN URLACHER?

  • Mmmm. Irish milk.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    wow... yes please. boobie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:


  • In reply to gpldan:


  • In reply to lobotobear:

    She's English... the antithisis of Irish. Well actually she's part Native American too. Odd combo.

  • Her breasticles are Irish!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I saw that movie and thought it was Kate Beckinsale. The movie sucks donkey balls by the way ... apart from the scene where CA gets booed off the stage by soldiers for being queer.

  • And Family Fest is cancelled. Thank you very much City of Chicago. Thank you very much Chicago Bears for failing to pony up the cash to fix this thing when Mayor Daley didn't.

  • In reply to NewBearInTown:

    what happened?


    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! TONGAN-STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to Crown:

    death to white devil rodgers!

  • In reply to Crown:

    and made popular by... the all blacks:


    can anyone answer why the fuck our field sucks so BAD!!!!!!!!!!!???

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    "The Bears packed up and bused back to their training camp at Olivet Nazarene University, prompting safety Chris Harris to tweet: "Can someone explain to me how a NAIA college practice field is better than Soldier Field #confused''

    - Chic Trib

  • because it is run by the park district who are a bunch of tards. It is embarassing and they need to hire a real outfit to maintain the surface or move to field turf. if we moved to field turf Hester and Peppers would do things you never dreamed of.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    waffle..ain't that the truth!

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    This is what we need:

    my son plays on this field..we just had the national Rwanda team here, field is unfucking believable!! only two or three fields in the country, we are the only one at 7000-7500 above sea-level.

    We are going for high altitude athletes:

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    it is unbelievable that the McCaskeys won't allow the Bears to have a professional grade surface for a professional football team.
    Green Bay has natural grass and players agree it is a good field but best believe the fucking park district doesn't keep it up. The organization does it and does it well.

    fucking cheesehead horticulturists

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    If the brass thought our team style suited the turf more than natural, then we would have turf. Many of the players disagree, but this has been thought out by the higher-ups to the best of their ability, which ain't sayin much.

  • In reply to Crown:

    Not with prostrating themselves for permission from the Machine, they wouldn't....

  • In reply to Crown:

    Not sure Crown.

    1) We had NO major injuries last season, why fuck with Karma?

    2) We were top 5 D (a lot of it due to health). Again, why mess with a good thing?

    I know Hester, Knox, Pepp, Major, Briggs, Forte would be flying on turf, but I just get bad images of ppl getting carted off on stretchers when turf is mentioned...

  • In reply to 4ever85:

    Actually we were 6th in team defense last year. Just sayin.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Actually, it fits right in with their asshat-ery and curmudgeoning ....

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    BTW..the other field is Tom Brady's field...fucking Patriots have it fucking McCheapsky's bitches.

  • I am at a loss for words:,0,7545630.story

    Does anyone else think the greatest return man of all time should be returning fucking kicks you fucking cocksucking piece of shit coaches?

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    W2.0...three letters come to mind....WTF!

  • In reply to lobotobear:

    Roboto - that field was bad ass. I want that as my lawn.

  • In reply to Waffle 2.0:

    Risk management; we want Hester returning punts and kickoff returns are dangerous.

  • In reply to SC Dave:

    I was hoping they'd do this. Knox on returns means less receiving duties - it's all good.

  • Alright, just finished my first ever Fantasy Football Draft, and I think I did OK.

    I got two guys out of prison (Vick and Plax), and some guy who got shanked in the gut by his wife and is borderline crazy (Marshall).

    Other than that, it's all good.

    Got the "Hold My Dick" Beast in Lynch, and BronKo reincarnated in Hillis, Megatron and James Jones (I puked a little in my mouth), and to round out everything Earl the Pearl Bennett (Martz better not be fucking lying when he said he needed more touches!)

  • yup I fuckin forgot about the draft. fuckin shit man

  • We missed ya Fres. One of these days your gonna make a draft.

  • Now that the New York Giants have stopped the agent for Osi Umenyiora(notes) from trying to find a trade for his client, the defensive end pretty much killed any possible deal by telling the team he needs knee surgery, according to the New York Daily News.

    Umenyiora "refused to practice" Thursday, the paper reports, and a Giants spokesman said, "He says he has a sore knee." He also told the team that he may need surgery to fix a torn meniscus, the Daily News reports.

    A team source tells the paper that the Giants don't plan to trade the 29-year-old two-time Pro Bowler or redo his contract. The Daily News reports that Umenyiora would like to be making $10 million annually.

    Umenyiora missed the 2008 season due to surgery on his left knee to fix some torn cartilage.


  • In reply to Artoo:

    Gabe looks goooood. Rick Bobby might be something. Can't wait to see some Levi Horn ....

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