What is Your Lockout Threshold?

At a bar recently I was asked a very pointed, very specific question: "At what point will you stop caring about the 2011 season?" 

I thought about it before answering.  It was shocking to me in that moment that I'd never considered the question before.  I had never considered a moment in time wherein I would hold my hands up in the air and declare an NFL season unimportant to me.  For almost the entirety of my existence on this earth the Chicago Bears have marked my calendar, defined the second half of my year.  For almost the entirety of my existence Sundays have been holy days and I don't belonng to a church. 

What if there is no training camp?  What if there are no games in September and October?  Would I ever be able to know the Chicago Bears were playing a football game that counts and not care about it?  Would I be able to avoid the third seat from the end at Josie Woods?  Would I be able to abandon the relationship I've developed with all of you on this blog over the years?   

The answer is "no" on all counts and perhaps this is the eternal power of the NFL.  Even if the entire 2011 season is missed, I'll be right back on that barstool for opening day in 2012.  I have a severe emotional investment in the Chicago Bears.  I want them to win every time they touch the field and a Super Bowl title would mean as much to me as a bank account with a mysterious $25,000 placed in it.  And while I'm disappointed to not be discussing free agency and mini-camps, while I'll be disappointed with every day of training camp missed and every minute of game action skipped, I don't take these things personally. 

I will protest, though, however quietly.  I won't be at Soldier Field in 2011 for the first time in a decade, spending my money at concessions like a sailor on leave.  I won't buy a single piece of Chicago Bears paraphenalia this season.  I don't have DirecTV but if I did, I'd cancel the Sunday Ticket and go to the local tavern and watch the games anyway.  I will not spend a nickel on the National Football League.  It might not matter to the billionaires.  But if enough of us took steps so minor, it would have a lasting impact.

So to answer his question, it doesn't matter from here on out.  I'll watch every single of action once they return to the field.  They just won't be opening my wallet.

What about you?

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  • I've been that way for years. I'll be glued to the tube if they start playing but they aren't getting any of my money (directly). Hope both sides figure it out.

  • Eventually we will all be paying customers again. Some of you know I'm from Cleveland. I still vividly remember when Art Modell took away my childhood team to Baltimore after the 1995 season. (btw, contrary to popular opinion, LeBron is not the most hated person in Cleveland, it has and always will be, Art Modell). Anyways at the time I was disgusted with the NFL for letting this happen and vouched I would never be a pro football fan ever again. Started watching a lot more baseball. Anyways, 3 YEARS later, when the Browns returned, I remember scalping tickets with my friends to watch them play the Steelers. Those 3 long and empty years without football were forgotten as soon as I saw the uniforms against the grass again. I know it's a different scenario, but there's some similarities to the lockout if we don't have football for a few months. It'll be forgotten eventually and we'll be paying customers again because we grew up with this "thing" and a lockout/owner's betrayal won't keep us from spending money. Besides, have any if you bought your woman one of those tight women's football jerseys and saw their reaction...damn...they love that dirty $hit.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Ah yes, Art Modell.

    The POSTER CHILD that you can be a complete tool and still be rich and own an NFL franchise.

    He screwed Browns fans on several occassions:

    1) Modell: Adios, Cleveland, Hello Baltimore!

    2) Modell: I DARE you to retire, Jim Brown.
    JB: Bye, bye, Art.

    3) Modell: I'm smarter than you, Paul Brown.
    PB: Bye, bye, Art.

    Etc., etc., etc.

  • In reply to gwill:

    If it's "real" games, I'll be watching, even with a truncated season, but I have ZERO interest in "Replacement games".

    If your team has a new QB or a new coaching staff, your season is ALREADY
    screwed.

  • In reply to gwill:

    I've said it once, say it again:

    If 2011 is wiped out, I'm done. I'm early 40s, I remember going to see pre-Payton Bears. In person. In that ice bowl they called Soldier Field. High school for the 85 Bears. Was at the fog bowl, looking for Maurice Douglas in the mist. I lived the Bears for my adult life.

    The lockout is illegal. If the owners had a stand-off in 2013 over a new CBA, that is one thing, but to brazenly collude and lock out against a valid CBA? That is some shit. On top of Duerson's gun to the heart, sometimes I feel that was a collective shot to Bears fans hearts.

    I believed helmet tech could fix the game. I was wrong, it cannot. Some things have to change. Rules have to change. Line play needs to change. And to not have a PPO for NFL players after they retire, and to demand 18 games NOW?

    It's just too much. Too much watching capital steam roll labor in a post-TARP world.

    Don't get me wrong: the owners are going to win. But it's just bothersome to watch something exploitive. It may not, as Mendenhall says, be slavery - but the NFL with 18 games and no healthcare has a child porn feel to it, and I don't think I could stomach it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What I said above was a personal thing to one particular city, so I hear what you're saying about a full lockout for the upcoming 2011 season impacting the whole league, which I also feel is illegal. It's truly shitty times ladies & gentlemen, when the sport we've loved since elementary school has exhibited, as GP says, child porn tactics. (I happen to agree wholeheartedly).

  • In reply to gpldan:

    1. I'll stop caring about the season once J'Marcus Zombie ends Cutler's by allowing some dumptruck into the backfield.

    2. I've got to take that $25K over a Lombardi Jeff. Can we have that backdated? I need a dollar .. a dollar ... a dollar is what I need ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    There are too many people in this country earning 20-30k trying to raise a family and have no health care. Retirees don't have health care. People lose their jobs when they are close to retirement and end up with no healthcare. I just don't understand why the players cant pay their own freight. They are basically self employed and when you are self employed you get your own care. Most players earn more than enough to take care of their healthcare. They should put some of the huge dollars they make into the bank to fund their future healthcare instead of squandering their wealth on women, illigit kids, partying etc. Everyone of these guys makes the choice to play this game for big money, I can't compare it to slavery or anything else.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Healthcare? Really? I think I would punch every person in the face who honestly believes that is the hang up.

    I have a lot of farmers in my family and none of them even have healthcare. They go to the doctor, negotiate a lower fee and pay cash. So your saying that even a Daniel Manning-esque player making 1-2 million dollars a year can't just pay cash when he pulls a hammy or for a surgery or two during their career? That is ridiculous.

    There are people who ride bulls for a living, they don't get provided healthcare, and they only get big money if they continuously prove they are the best.

    There are companies that sale billions of dollars of merchandise or services like the NFL does, many of their best salesmen work solely on commission, 5-10% and get full benefits. So if the players would be willing to go down from the 50% commission they currently get to say 15 or 20%; I'm sure the owners would be more than happy to give them some great benefits then.

    I am so sick of hearing people side with these prissy ass millionaire players, no-one forced them to play this sport, no-one forced them to dissolve their own union and refuse to negotiate, they are the ones that forced the NFL to lockout by refusing to talk and forcing litigation. For all I care the owners at this point could dissolve the NFL. make a new league NPFL, move all the franchises over and hire new scabs and I'd go watch those guys play.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Oh shit... gp is going to hunt you down and gut you like a whitetail deer.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I'm in this boat. I can't say I fault one side more than the other, but I will say that the players don't make this league (for me), the franchises do. I'd have no problem watching scabs.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Spoken like a true Packer.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I certainly cannot fault a guy for placing loyalty to his team over mercenaries that would leave tomorrow to go play for a hated rival if offered a 15% raise.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Murph, I agree with your point about the players can afford their own insurance.

    I know you're a conservative kind of guy but go back over your post and read about nobody having health care. The US is one of the few Western countries that doesn't have free health care. It works in Canada and could work in the US if all the pols weren't being bought off by the AMA and the insurance companies. I'll get off my soapbox now.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada is a socialist economy charging over 50% in income taxes and their healthcare is so broken that tons of Canadians come to the US to jump the queue

    USA is free market charging less than 35% in income taxes and we don't have to wait 6 months for an mri if it isnt life threatening.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    If you honestly think Canadians come to the US for healthcare, rather than the other way around, I have no room for debate. You're a loon, and there is no middle ground.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    keep it above the waist... no name calling.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Actually one of my best friends is a Canadian and has come down here twice for medical care as opposed to waiting in line, so disputing fact with opinion as you just did would make you the loon, a common loon even. Exit stage left.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Any chance you live in Canada? A Canadian citizen? That's what I thought. I'm a dual citizen living in Canada and you don't know shit from shinola on this subject.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I can get care faster in some circumstances with Canada's health care being a non-resident than a resident would.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I think it was somebody on DBB, maybe not, maybe it was an SI writer - but basically what they said is this - Bond Traders are a notorious coke and whore lot. Something about fighting for yields in a pit, makes one seek out the coca leaf and a different kind of spread.

    The reasons firms do this, is because the traders will blow all their cash. They basically kind of set up a forced annuity on them.

    Everyone has their panties in a wad over healthcare. Bull riders don't get healthcare. Bull riders are stupid. I don't know what to say. Evel Knievel was a dipshit who was just glad he wasn't working in a Montana gas mine, so he paid doctors cash for all the repair work they did on him. Nobody would insure him. The even was insured against crowd harm, but not Evel.

    Coal miners in WV get healthcare cut off when they leave, when they get old and the black lung comes, it's shotgun to the head time.

    Smokers should pay huge premiums for life insurance. Yeah, I get that.

    So why can't football take profits, recognize onto itself that it violently destroys the body in ways other professions and sports do not, and set up a PPO for the players.

    I bet alot of you bitching and kvetching up a storm (I'm looking at you Urlacher), turn around and happily accept the employer covered AD&D policy on your head. If you only understood why that was done.

    I don't know what to say. Please - especially for those who say Canucks come to the states for no waiting, provide some evidence. I don't wanna hear your bullshit 3rd hand story, I want URLs to stories about Canadians who came here because they couldn't get healthcare there. Links to someplace other than Fox News. Child please.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I need to take one more shit on some of this rancid DBB logic:

    Salesmen who make 10 to 20% commission on a product sale aren't themselves the product. You know who else is the product? Whores. And, in that model, the pimp usually skims 10 to 20, unless they are ratty crack ho's, maybe they give up as much as 40.

    So, by that natty ho logic, the players should be getting 60 percent of NFL profits.

    What I did there. You saw it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And had Evel stayed a shit kicker in Butte, he'd have ended up in a copper mine, not natural gas. The smell of the shitty pro-owner logic had me thinking gas....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well, the players aren't the product either the franchises are... If Hester got traded to the Redskins, everyone that has a Hester jersey wouldn't sell their Bears season tickets and go become a redskins fan; the jerseys we buy may have a player we likes name/number but we buy it first because it is a bears jersey and it has our favorite player on it. Not the other way around. And the players did get 60% so...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://thepatientfactor.com/access/how-to-be-a-queue-jumper-in-canadas-public-health-care-system/

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/healthcare/medicaltourism2.html

    http://www.nationalreview.com/onthenews/?q=OGRlNDNiZGI0YjJlZjQwNWRiZGVlOTU1YjAyNGE5MGI=

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1910466/posts

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=141706

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Do a google search for "jumping the queue canada health"

    You will get about 40,000 examples. The guy who runs their whole health care system even did it when his daughter got cancer.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    So here's what I got doing exactly that:

    Article 1:
    http://thepatientfactor.com/access/how-to-be-a-queue-jumper-in-canadas-public-health-care-system/

    Apparently, somebody in Canada has read Animal Farm. All people are equal, some are more equal.

    As a result, people of clout are getting to things like H1N1 vaccine faster than people of no clout. This is called corruption, and I don't see where people are coming to the USA. Except that maybe USA's black market is better than Canadas. But that's black market, not our above-board health care system.

    Here's one that suggests specialty surgeries have waiting lists, this woman went to India to have some pain relief done

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/healthcare/medicaltourism2.html

    So, she went to India. Still looking for Canucks ditching their system to do fee for service in the US. Not finding it.

    Basically, it seems mostly related to H1N1 vaccine. Guess what? Tamiflu and other shit wasn't available here, either. Unless you were really really rich.

    So, still - not getting it. But if we want to digress into Canadian vs US healthcare, perhaps we should do it off the blog.

    What should stay on the blog is the idea that the NFL players should have a healthcare and pension fund. They can continue to pay into it, but at subsidized rates.

    Mike Webster, at the end, his brain was applesauce and he was flat broke and died destitute. And he was an All-Pro center for the Steelers for years.

    Not sure why it's hard to see the value in setting up a healthcare org that helps that out.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well, I missed the segway from health insurance to AD&D as those are totally different issues, however would I be willing to give up my one year's pay AD&D policy and my 80/20 healthcare, and take on a ton of possible injuries in trade for a job making 2-8 million dollars every year and retiring in 8-9 years or less of work. I guess I thought that was the trade off and one of the cruxes for making that kind of dough... the threat to their health. Why should the owners have to pay them for the same risk twice, once in salary and once in health care premiums.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    What if the equation were changed, and I said that you could make the 2 (let's go with 2) million for 5 years, that's 10M gross - but - you had to risk CTE.

    http://www.aansneurosurgeon.org/2011/05/03/nfls-duerson-suffered-from-chronic-traumatic-encephalopathy/

    Let's pretend, and say 20%. One in 5. The CTE will drive you insane, it will make you hear noises, be unable to concentrate, make you subject to depression and outbursts of rage.

    1 in 5 shot. 10M bucks.

    Deal?

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Have to agree with GP here. The avg career is 3 years. Most guys don't make the REALLY big bucks. Certainly not lineman.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    +100 !!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You know, two of my roommates hated "The Princess Bride" but it is the best movie to watch to get laid with a girl. Just sayin..

    Two Hughes movies I love is "Planes, Trains, and Automoibles" and "Home Alone".

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    are they sick?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They said it was "Corny".

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Wow. Wtf is wrong with yuts these days. Fuck, getting old sucks.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My cousin Vinny is another good movie

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    You just opened-up the Ralph Macchio genre, which includes such films as The Outsiders, Too Much Sun, and who can ever forget, Distant Thunder.

  • In reply to gwill:

    SodaPop!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Pony Boy

  • In reply to gwill:

    No dude, that's 'who can remember Distant Thunder?'

    No retreat, no surrender - remember that bad boy?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Solid movie. I prefer Marisa in The Wrestler though, she got hotter as she got older, eh?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    http://uncrate.com/stuff/beer-craft/

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    You are on the money here Artoo. Bitches have cream dreams about that movie. Automatic lay if you suggest it.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Damn, I better buy a copy.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Personally, any of the Booty Talk series would surely be better viewing material for any female a man wants to be with? TPB ? WTF? Or the Creampie Ebony series....

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Pep's dad was charged with felony coke possession today. The crazy thing is that he was the sherrif's deputy in his town for the past 10 years.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Cocaine's a helluva drug

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As we used to say in the '60's, "Cops always have the best drugs."

    I used to work in a pretty sketchy bar in the early '70's. The cops set us up and busted us for an underage kid in the bar. When they turned on the lights and cleared everyone out I was one of the last to leave (employees got a free ride in the paddy wagon). I looked back on the way out and the floor was covered with pipes, baggies, tin foil, etc. We came back about 2 hours later (after getting bailed out) and there was nothing left on the floor. There was no mention of any of it in the police report or in the courtroom. BTW, the judge said it was a total entrapment within about the 1st hour of the hearing and dressed down the cops and DA. Good Times!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    UNITY

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The only parts of Dave that I like. The Eddie Murphy stories.

    That and Samuel Jackson beer and Wayne Brady gonna have to smack a bitch.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    you're obviously not smoking enough weed before you watch Erik.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There did it. I don't plan on it either. Is being wasted by beer similar?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    no cause with beer, you cant fuckin comprehend. All you see is a fuckin mesh and hearing is out of the equation. GOTTA BE STONED.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ray Charles said it man. And damned if you don't bone like like the great blind one himself when you partake of the weed. Ce n'est pas comme ci mes amis?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    No. Beer is only cool in the fridge, man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If you think it's hot in here, check this blog out:

    http://fourthandgoalunites.com/2011/05/09/mike-ditka-criticizes-both-sides-in-nfl-labor-dispute/

    You got former NFLPA members and former players at each other...

    I was just remembering when Ditka coached the scab Bears. I couldn't watch those games.

    "oh yay, our Rudy outran the Packers Vince Papale kinda guy, who was even more clueless on defense than that sloppy route was on offense. Go Bears!"

    It's not the franchises. It's the players. It's why the NFL colluded to run Donald Trump and the USFL into the dust once he started getting big name talent over there by colluding with the big 3 TV networks to freeze him out when he had the balls to try and move to the fall.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201106/110603.03.jpg

    Boom!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I shot up with the Sheriff,
    but I did not take a hit with the Deputy

    Little Clapton there, headin into the weekend...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Clapton????!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrnZSLwfzVs

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I just read a good book by an English dude (Nick Kent) who worked for a music mag back in the '70's. Great stories. He had a run in with Bob and boys at a studio. Bob wasn't really all that nice.

    He has great stories about Keith Richards, Iggy Pop, Sex Pistols, etc. The book is called Apathy for the Devil.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Respect and hugs and love for my brothers EC and BM in equal and grateful amounts.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    My threshold, when I completely give up on the 2011 season, is when Super Bowl XLVII is canceled. Until that moment I have hope for something...even if it's a shortened season like 1982. Even if every team in the league plays a double-elimination playoff tournament for a month to decide who plays in the big game. So long as there is a Super Bowl there is hope.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    +1 Artoo! Great movie and yes, the chicks will fuck you blind afterwards. Why? I don't know. But who cares, it works.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    That being said, if you sat around and watched it with your dude friends, then I hate to say it but, you're gay mang. (Not there's anything wrong with that).

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Lol good one, I watched it with my gf and roommates, I didn't know watching a great movie makes you gay though

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    There's a great many things you can learn from me young patuwon.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Watching Raging Bull is what made my second cousin gay.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Well it does Artoo, it just does ....

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    careful what you say. Dont want Trac to have a tip over and freak with some bible BS. SIgh... JUST KIDDING

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    My football inputs are gone. I dont know what to say about this bullshit thats going on. Fuckin nonsense that all I see and Hear. Fuck the bullshit.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Can we get some fuckin Fan Appreciation! wtf man.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Inigo: Fezzik, are there rocks ahead?
    Fezzik: If there are, we all be dead.
    Vizzini: No more rhymes now, I mean it.
    Fezzik: Anybody want a peanut?

    [she starts blowjob about here]

  • In reply to gwill:

    Its after he saves her and they roll down the hill for me, everytime lol

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Andre's introduction of the holocaust cloak opens the door to anal eveytime 100% of the time.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Ahhhh leave it Crown.

    If she make's it to the end of the movie, she will be down for a gang-bang.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    2+ Doc! lmao

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Another movie to get laid with

    Ghost

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Starting in on the pottery scene?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Doc, Mb, and Irish please explain the part in the movie when Sam goes into Whoopi and he is like in her body...now is it Whoopi or Sam kissing Demi ?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Not looking good folks. Hey, Top movies

    Lion King

    Gladiator

    Braveheart

    300

    Forrest Gump

    Saving Private Ryan

    ShawnShank Redemption

    Tiantic

    Inception

    The Good, The Bad , and the Ugly

    Field of Dreams

    The Natural

    No particular order but damn... I don't know how to explain it, I say how can you say you lived and not seen these movies? They say " how can you say you lived by just sitting there?"

    My gf and her family hate when I talk about movies or bring them up. Because of Patrick Swayze and "the Princess Bride" I have changed her. Believe it or not most girls and a lot of my friends have not seen or watched most great or just good movies.

    They say it's a waste of time but damn, I don't think I could ever not watch another movie and live happy.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    throw a John Wayne movie in there bruhh

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    QUOTE OF THE DAY.
    "I haven't lost my temper in 40 years; but, Pilgrim, you caused a lot of trouble this morning; might have got somebody killed; and somebody oughta belt you in the mouth. But I won't. I won't. The hell I won't!"

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Anybody see Due Date?

    "You better check yourself, before you wreck yourself."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you know where I was at when my baby was being born?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I love the original Superman with Mr. Reeves, however, The Dark Knight as of now is the best superhero ever. I could quote that movie alll dayy.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Bale is the worst Batman yet.... Worse than Clooney.

    Fix your face and your fucking lisp before you try to fuck over Keaton's legacy.

    When you're Batman, and all I can see is your mouth, don't have a speech impediment that makes your S words come out like Butthead.

    Great movies. Shitty Batman.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Lmao, I honestly don't care because that movie is so damn cool.

    Bale acts like a dick and that is what Batman is. Good enough for me.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I agree with WG. Something about Bale that throws the character off. Maybe its the stupid voice he does when he is in the suit.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    No Fres, pretty sure it's just that the guy is a fucking douchbag of the heighest order. Moron.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bale is a fucking awesome actor. His talent as an actor is only rivaled by his unbelievable douchebaggery as a person.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Oohhhhh yeahhhh

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    really? awesome actor?

    ...meeeeh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    watch The Fighter, The Machinist, The Prestige, American Psycho etc. Believable in every role. not your average celebrity trying to act

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    also, Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are badass movies. Harsh Times was entertaining, Public Enemies was awesome.
    He also just won an oscar. He's no Nick Cage but then again, who is?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    True that Johnny.

    Have to admit I've only seen him in the dark knight and pieces of some others. I get he plays a good psycho, but with him one has to ask... is that really just acting?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    shouldn't you be surfing while eating lobster tacos right about now?
    I was just knocking back a couple of Coronas with my gardener Juan. We planted the fuck out of our vegetable garden today. Whattya know about sustainable agriculture haters?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Yeah, I wish. I'm housebound watching the baby while the wife's out doing errands with the daughter.

    We're (desperately) looking for a trustworthy nanny/house keeper right now my man. Once we lock that down, I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    typo: ..put THE halveS 2 inches apart...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    boom

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    OHHHH YEEEEEAAAHHHHH!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    how's the new little one btw? Everything on-schedule (for the end of your life as you know it)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    3 months in, 6 to go. find out next week boy or girl. panic setting in.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It should be.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We lost a good guy yesterday.

    "Papa Joe " Chevalier passed away.

    http://www.lvrj.com/sports/-papa-joe-chevalier-dies-at-age-62-123167828.html?viewAllComments=y&c=y

    It was sad enough that he's gone, just as sad (and a travesty) is the fact that "Papa Joe" had been absent from Sports Talk Radio, nationally, for the last few years, especially when you hear a lot the lame-o's that pass for Sports Talk hosts these days.

    I enjoyed him immensely when he was available to Tucson on Sporting News Radio, especially "bite Me Wednesdays".

    Too bad "The Chiselers", as Papa constantly referred to his "One on One Sports / Sporting News Radio" bosses, weren't smart enough to accommodate him and let him orginate his show from his beloved Las Vegas.

    All I can say is

    "BITE me, Chiselers!"

    and

    "BITE ME, Grim Reeper!"

    Thanks, Papa.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Remember, June 6, 1944.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Remember? I'll bet many don't even know.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    sad but true Murph...

    A little dose of history helps keep it all in perspective.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Watch the first 30 minutes of SAVING PRIVATE RYAN.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Chilling Al... and one of the best movies ever made.

    A couple scenes in Enemy at the Gate come somewhat close, but not really. People are still, at our most basic, fucking wild animals when it comes down to it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/06/gotta-watch-remembering-d-day/?&hpt=hp_c2

    What a infantry rat-fuck... how about some fucking air support?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As if we needed more proof..

    Went to my Doc's today for routine stuff, then made an appointment for 6 months. She gave me Dec 7th. I commented to the 20-something clerk "Whattya know? I'm here on D-Day and back again on Pearl Harbor Day. How about that?"

    And , of course, she had NO idea what I was talking about.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    was she at least cute Al?

    Hope you didn't have to turn and cough.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That would be a "Yes" and a "No" MB.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That is exactly what I was hoping to hear Al. Well done!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You know I was just thinking yesterday of how the unfair competition presented by college football has robbed us all of a second professional football league. They have a built in advantage over the competition (ie they dont have to pay their athletes) and the revenues they gobble up could easily support another league.
    And why is it in all this talk of students being paid under the table (USC being "stripped" of their championship title) has nobody suggested that we just take big money out of college sports. No more selling broadcasting rights, no more licensing of video games with the likeness of unpaid players, etc etc. Maybe it's just me but there should be a more defined line between professional and amateur.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    I would guess the current situation serves all parties. Universities get what they want, TV gets what they want, star athletes get what they want, other athletes get a free education if they have enough sense to take advantage of it and for the most, viewers get what they want.

    A lot of people piss and moan about a playoff tournament but until they stop watching games, nothing will change. Personally I never watch college ball. I haven't seen an entire game in person or on TV for 30 years.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You and me both Canada. I dont watch amateur sports on Tv besides the olympics purely for the fact that they shoudl remain amateur sports.. by definaition played for the love of the game, not a free ride or the chance to be on TV.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    I'm not that idealistic. I just compare college ball to minor league baseball. Nothing wrong with it but if you want to see the best ...

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    In what way is the Olympics amateur sports Sac?

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Every amateur should have a single professional master. Master and apprentice. That is how it is done.

  • In reply to JelfHughes:

    +1
    Ya got me Darth. I don't hardly ever lol on blogs. Even if I do I hardly ever say so.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I hardly every lol on blogs either... and I didn't at some completely random star wars post(s).

    Just sayin...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Do no man... was initially trying to be fun, but didn't work out. I got nothing.

    How do you delete a post?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    funny not fun

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think... I uhhh... got something in my eye

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BewknNW2b8Y

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do you believe in miracles?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that dude brought down the hammer

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here is a random post on Yahoo. It seemed so random that this guy couldn't have made it up. It's like Wikipedia. Who the fuck is going to write an 15 page wiki page on Supernovas and Black Holes??? Fucking nerds that know shit that's who.

    "my unnamed nfl peeps who i can tell but works for the leauge says that they are looking to settle in the next 2 weeks to 30 days maybe 40. but they told me that the rookie salary cap will be part of this new deal.and they our trying to work on the numbers i can say how much of the give back will be but the 18 gm schedule will be 17 gms over 18 wks so the 18 gm schedule is out. but the owners will bring up in three years with nflta approval. and they are make very good progress so much so that they will keep talking in private."

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Oh YEAH!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This was a very well written article and I wholeheartedly agree with every word of it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This is not a political statement: Can lightening please strike twice... at the same time... in two different places... please.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/07/ann-coulter-surveys-gop-2012-field/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Which two? Romney & Christie, Coulter & Palin. My heart says Obama & Palin, but then my head says "Biden as president...really!?" There isn't an attractive candidate for President on either side in 2012. The problem with the office of President today is that you have to be crazy to want it and pretty sleazy to win it.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Vote for Senator Palpatine! A leader with the ability to get things done!

  • In reply to JelfHughes:

    Luke Skywalker OWNED his ass.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    With just the teensiest weensiest bit of help from his old man .... a smidgeon.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I don't know buck, the president themselves is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, it's the system that's broken. You can only do so much to evoke change when the machine perpetuates the current power/money structures. It's all about bidniz unfortunately.

    It doesn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And I have to go with Coulter and Palin... but at least coulter is intelligent enough to create a caricature that's given her vast amounts of wealth... and can form a proper sentence.

    Palin should be left out in the wild to fend off the wolves. I mean, I literally can't listen to that buffoon 'speak'. Although, I have to conceed that at the very least, she does provide the stewart and Colbert shows with some brilliant fodder.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-june-6-2011/sarah-palin-s-folksy-word-salad

    and...

    http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/388583/june-06-2011/paul-revere-s-famous-ride

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The fact that the word Palin is even used in a sentence along with the words "president" and "viable candidate" confirms to me that 30% of the citizens of this country are actually mentally retarded.

    She went to 5 colleges before "graduating" with a degree in communications. 2 of those schools were fucking community colleges.

    I was blacked out for my entire time at college and graduated from a major university with a 3.2 in History and Bio. I mean really fucking blacked out on shrooms and red bull vodka 3 or 4 days out of the week. What kind of fucking retard needs 2 community colleges and 3 other colleges to graduate?

    I mean Obama had no credentials either to be president but at least he passed the bar, went to Harvard, can form a fucking sentence without saying you betcha or ya know and can speak with foreign leaders without them wanting to fucking nuke us on principal alone.

    I wish Biden was president instead of Obama but I'll take Obama and even Hilary instead of some fucking tard from Alaska who should be running the PTA and literally nothing else.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    OOOOHHHHHHHHH YEEEEAAAHHHHHHHH!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    In a town that gave Craig Krenzel a shot, is Pryor worth it?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/08/no-consensus-on-what-kind-of-pro-terrelle-pryor-would-be/

    The poor man's Daunte Culpepper? Another Juice? He could be an interesting weapon as a Wildcat QB. His size and speed make him interesting in some packages.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    speak on it mah brothah

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Al Davis and the Raiders have no claim on being the most hated franchise in sports. It clearly goes to Pat Riley and his Heat.

    You know it's bad, when finance writers in finance sites write stories about why they hate LeBron:

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dear-lebron-james-why-i-really-hate-you-2011-06-08?link=MW_story_popular

    King James no show in Game 4, to put the series 2-2, it's being celebrated. People are openly praying for the big 3 to choke and die down the stretch. Bill Lamebeer tackling and punching the Round Mound of Rebound got nothing on this.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Flashback:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxTccIZYPT8

    I forgot about Isaiah trying to punch Mahorn. So funny.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    pathetic

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Dave sighting!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Spent last 10 minutes fuckin with Google's new Les Paul doodle....

    http://www.google.com/

    Happy Birthday Lester William Polsfuss, rip.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    You mean Bush's two term presidency didn't already convince you of this?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I... was trying to not be partisan doc.

    I am part of the common sense party, which unfortunately doesn't exist in America.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was talkin to Waffle. I'm non partisan either. Bush is an ass, I don't care what party you do or don't belong to.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I know you were doc

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    PLUS FUCKIN 1! I would Have sex with her but I wouldnt vote for her.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I'd have sex with her word hole. Just to keep her from talkin'.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Bear hug? Pile on!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hey MBP, better late than never. Here's some info; Best lunch is a sandwich/burger place called My Brother Darrell's on Fenwick St. Best breakfast is Mary's Place on Robie. Good beer at Maxwell's Plum. Henry House on south end of Barrington is good. Fireside is also a great place for food and a martini, great atmosphere. Hope this helps

    Fri 06/10/11 Lorrie Morgan Rebecca Cohn Auditorium
    Pam Tillis

    Sat 06/11/11 The Fugitives Company House

    Wed 06/15/11 NOFX Multi Purpose Center
    Old Man Markley
    Teenage Bottlerocket

    Fri 06/17/11 The Sadies Seahorse Tavern

    The Stogies Winston's

    The 2nd part of the post is from Pollstar. The Sadies are really fun.

    Hope you have a great time.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Damn, I just got back Monday night...
    I did have a McLobster while I was there.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Fuck me. Sorry about that. Hope you had a good time. I've never been there but everything I've heard about it was good. Oh well.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +5000

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ah, college ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Funny clips. Stewart's had me laughing but once Colbert got on that horse I was blowing snot bubbles.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Anyone see Jackass 3 yet? the High Five at the start had me pissing myself - luckily I started it just after Knoxville shows you what they're going to do.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig6L5HGeuYw

  • In reply to buckbear:

    And the wonderful thing is it doesn't even matter who you vote for, cos the government always gets in.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    sounds like some nostradamus shit!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hester facebooked that the Offense had a good workout today.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I seen that, He also said that it was good to work out with some teamates. Its good to see that the Offense is practicing cause fuckin A they need it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Aw crap. Is that a verb now? Has another tool like Zuckerberg bastardized the language even further? 'Google' used used to be a number. Gay used to mean happy. Jay Leno used to be funny.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jay leno was NEVER funny Irish.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    hey mbp: http://edunderwood.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/combat_lee_marvin1.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    5 to 1 odds this is Susan Boyle & Kim Jong-il's kid that they had during a summer bumper car session just a few yards north of the demilitarized zone.....probably just after watching the Princess Bride (with subtitles).

  • In reply to gwill:

    The DMZ, this is where it all goes down Will.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    LOL! Waaaaaaaa!

  • In reply to JelfHughes:

    Always two there are.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    I'm so glad that I came by the blog today. I have been putting football totally out of my mind because thinking about it is killing me. I'm so depressed over this lockout. For a few reasons. 1. Unless this situation ends before July I am convinced that the quality of football on the field this season will be seriously diminished.
    2. What else is there to do on Sunday afternoons/evenings once it hits November in cold climates? Seriously...what else is there?
    3. Going through an entire year of the Packers being the defending champs is bad enough, but 2 years God forbid!
    I would gladly give my money to someone...anyone if it assured a season to go on. I would pay DirecTV Sunday Ticket money directly to the League, Players Association, or any party capable of making it happen today. I'm pretty certain that most people know for sure now that the real losers in this scenario are the fans, and if the big boy owners get their way and revenue sharing goes away fan will be the losers doubly so.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-making-plans-for-season-as-short-as-eight-games-060611?GT1=39002

    I get really angry when i read shit like this. Lockout threshold????? This is my lockout threshold. FUCKING COCKSUCKING OWNERS AND SHITTY MOTHERFUCKING NFLPA NEGOTIATORS. NEGOTIATE A FUCKING SOLUTION AND PLAY THE MOTHER FUCKING GAME. It can't take this long to come up with a solution.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Tell us how you really feel!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    What does it say when the recent "secret" meetings were held and the Lawyers were NOT ALLOWED to attend?

    Its says time for stale Lawyer Jokes!

    What do you call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? (All together now) : A GOOD START!

    You're trapped in a elavator with Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin laden and an attorney. You have a gun, but there are only 2 bullets in it.

    Who do you shoot?

    (All together again): YOU SHOOT THE LAWYER TWICE TO MAKE SURE!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    As I watched the news while on the treadmill today... I'm more sure of it than ever. Check it out for yourself. Just turn on the news tonight and take a quick listen. It doesn't have to be for an hr or two, just 10 - 15 minutes of your time to confirm what we already know.

    It's coming. 2012.

    ...start aggregating your zombie killing gear now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    amassing is a better word when speaking about zombie gear I think.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg-WFkkKOaU&feature=related

  • In reply to gwill:

    I shall use my two handed lightsaber to slay the undead. Or rally them to my cause.

  • In reply to JelfHughes:

    Dude, Obi Wan OWNED you ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For sure, "NO NFL". A sure sign of the apocolypse.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    My presence is a sign of the coming of the Empire!

  • In reply to JelfHughes:

    Your ass got smoke by obi wan!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njzp1a8oMWc&feature=related

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If I watched the news for 15 mins I'd want to be dead too, MB. That's big brother talking to you right there. I got rid of my cable, best thing I ever did.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When we are bored and disgusted because we have no football to talk about, we have Anthony Weiner tweeting his junk to Chicks to keep us amused. Thank god for politicians to keep us amused.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    yeah Murph... what a tool (see how I did that?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thats what they are all saying!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Unless you're the host with the most, why send dong shots? Esp, if you're well known. Although with a last name like Weiner ...

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    But his name is just so approriate!

    It's not his "junk", it's Weiner's Weener!

    Wonder if his parents ever considered OSCAR instead of Anthony?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Pro Football Focus recently revealed that Earl Bennett did not drop a single pass last season, making him one of the surest-handed receivers in the league

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I do remember a fumble ..does that count?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    And Knox was on the field for 350 more snaps and caught less passes?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    It took my Grandpa over 60 years to talk about what happened on D-Day and the next two weeks.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Leave a comment...

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Part of the war that is overlooked is the war in the Pacific. It became a war of attrition, like the end of the Civil War. Those soldiers don't get enough credit.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I have to STRONGLY disagree that the Pacific Theatre, where my Father served, has in any way BEEN "overlooked".

    The Iwo Jima and U.S.S. Arizona Memorials are inconic and are among the earliest, if not THE earliest, WWII Monuments.

    Hollywood has amply and ably covered the Pacific War from Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima in films such as:

    THEY WERE EXPENDABLE

    BATAAN

    TORA, TORA, TORA

    WAKE ISLAND

    MacARTHUR

    DESTINATION TOKYO

    30 SECONDS OVER TOKYO

    TASK FORCE

    MIDWAY

    GUADALCANAL DIARY

    THE GALLANT HOURS

    THE THIN RED LINE

    RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP

    HELL TO ETERNITY

    PT 109

    IN HARM'S WAY

    SANDS OF IWO JIMA

    LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA

    FLAGS OF OUR FATHERS

    THE PACIFIC

    ABOVE AND BEYOND

    and those are just off the top of my balding, aging, little head.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The Thin Red Line was a great film. The Bruckheimer sheep of a public hated it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'll raise you the Big Red one!

    Lee Marvin baby!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    BIG RED ONE was North Africa-European Theatre of Ops.

    DID get to meet Lee Marvin here in Tucson though.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I know al... I just loved that movie and lee Marvin. Had to throw it out there anyway.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Loved that movie.
    No one could give the stinkeye like Lee M-Fing Marvin.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Next time... we eat bacon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fNbv9QzoQk

    Shhhhhh... you hear that bacon sizzle?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh9vc2lqyM1qewt3g.gif

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    epic mealtime is truly entertaining.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    They crack me up man. I am waiting for one of those dudes to fucking have a cardiac on camera.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A Rolling Stone gathers no Moss. And neither will the Bears.

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/grizzly-detail/Could-Santana-Moss-Be-a-Good-Fit-123489734.html

  • In reply to JelfHughes:

    I love that the natives are both furious AND thrilled.

    ...Quite a split. Would it be safe to say that regardless of which half they're on... the natives are restless?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    My favorite war movie, and what a cast. Terence Malick rocks, can't wait to see Tree of Life.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Pro football would be great this year. If not, I'll have a lot more fish in my freezer.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I've been out of the loop all weekend at a wedding with the in-laws. Will somebody esplain to me what, if anything, happened at the June 3rd hearing?

    mang.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Both sides got 30 minutes to plead their case.

    Now the 3 judges will take days or weeks to render a decision. A decision which, the NFL owners have already said they will appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court if they aren't happy with it in which case I hope the Supreme Court says something along the lines of:

    "Screw you, you greedy bastards! We have bigger fish to fry and refuse to hear a case of billionaires unhappy with just HOW MANY billions they're going to make."

    To quote Walter Brennan as Judge Roy Bean in THE WESTERNER: "That's mah rulin'!"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    By the way, Doc, were really you "Out-of-the-loop" or just "Looped"?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Of course, the players will ALSO likely appeal to the Supremes if the ruling doesn't favor them.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I wonder what decision Diana Ross will hand down.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Little from column A and lot from column B.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Plax... or Snoop?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Burress-out-of-prison-but-what-8217-s-next-?urn=nfl-wp2379

    Fo Shizzle ma nizzle.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Nick Cage, now there's a bum.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The Prestige was awesome. I love Bowie in that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When it comes to character acting he's heavy duty in fairness. The Machinist, The Fighter (he steals that movie) ... don't like the guy, but he's a great actor.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Argentina v. poland

    ...right now in the 37th minute. Pols up 1-nil and kicking some ass surprisingly.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Go Mexico!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU

    Hillarious.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Been awhile, folks. Good to see all the familiar faces. To answer the question at the top of the page, I think my threshold started to be reached during last offseason/regular season when we started talikng about the possibility of a lockout. Will I stop watching if there's football? Fuck no. But this has been a hard offseason, I've only been skimming this blog about once a week. Sad to see how this lockout and the under-lying politics of it are dividing folks here much like a small reflection of our country's current political environment is doing.

    I call bullshit- both sides are guilty if you ask me. Greed is a mother-fucker and everyone wants a peice of the pie, the only ones who have no say in things are us- the bakers of that pie. And no, I probably won't cancel my ticket if ther's fb this year, how else will I load up my dvr with games for next offseason?

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Ben, i hear ya on the two sides being guilty to certain degrees but I also know that people on this blog are united in their love for the bears even though there are wildly differing opinions on politics and religion. I'd like to believe that when it comes down to it we all want the same things in life. We want our kids to be healthy and safe, we want our loved ones to be happy and we want Rodgers nestled securely under a Urlacher, Paea, Pep sandwich on the cold shit show we call Soldier field in Dec.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    FUCKING DEAD!!!!

    ...oh yeah.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Don't know what

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Quote OF the DAY:

    "I know they were just kids...but man we beat the fuck out of them!"

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Everyone thinks we won't make it to the playoffs again.

    I agree.

    I thought last year we were going to be 4-12..

    Prove me wrong again Chicago.. I love when you do.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Everyone thinks we won't make it to the playoffs again.

    I agree.

    I thought last year we were going to be 4-12..

    Prove me wrong again Chicago.. I love when you do.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2007/year-scab-part-ii

    Excerpt from a longer book. Interesting on the 87 season, the animosity and Ditka turning his back on the players...

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Never saw Titanic, Braveheart, or SPR. Lion King only in Spanish class... But superman, get yourself some Coen action. Lebowski and O Brother are classics. Not to mention Raising Arizona and Hudsucker Proxy.

    Where's Godfather and Goodfellas?

    My Cousin Vinny
    Major League
    The Last Dragon
    Real Genius
    Ferris Bueller
    White Men Can't Jump
    Friday
    Mallrats
    Snatch
    Lock stock
    Cable Guy
    Memento

    Done.

    Any of you fuckers seen Gummo? Creepy. Speaking of creepy, I'm about to watch a movie about a autistic kid who buys a blow up doll and pretends it's his girlfriend... Recommended by a twisted dark humornloving guy at work. "Lars and the Real Girl" it's called.... I'll let you know.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Dude, run away run away!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Okay, you'd need to be real stoned to laugh at this movie... Not recommended.

    Weird.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Well, only because I didn't partake. If you have a satchel and 2 hours to blow... Have at it.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    wait and SPR! holy shit fucking a man. Tom Hanks all time great!

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    And erik, people who don't know... no less can't quote great movies (uuuhhh... fucking FLETCH!!!! CADDY!!!! PREDATOR!!!) are socially retarded.

    Yeah, no clue about the all caps and exclamation points. Just spazed out for a second.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There are more that I left out but those are a few. We should make a list

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Okay, I'll play. Three 'A' movies:

    All Quiet on the Western Front (1930 version)
    American History X
    Animal House

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    BR takes a piss on Plax's career

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/725020-plaxico-burress-release-is-only-relevant-because-of-the-nfl-lockout

    Goodbye Poor Man's Moss. We shant be seeing you again...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For the first time in a long time I am thinking about canceling Sunday ticket. The price is getting ridiculous! Living in upstate NY I pay $350+ for 10-12 games of football since I don't watch much of the other games and the Bears have at least 4-5 games in primetime each year. I really hope the lockout bites them in the ass in some way shape or form and diminishes their revenue. If they bring in less money it will have no affect on the game that we watch. The ticket prices, the tv costs, the concessions it is all getting out of control. I try to tell myself I won't watch the games but I know I will find some way to watch them. I just won't bring myself to spend the $350+

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    This is the email DirecTV sent out today:
    Your NFL SUNDAY TICKET

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    Otherwise you can go to a local bar about 10gms out of the season to catch the Bears, but how much would that be costing? Beer, Food, Tips, etc... either way you pay.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    I feel you on that. Shit is to pricey, but shit man I cant go a sunday without seeing my bears.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Dude u never seen Braveheart? who the fuck is willie gault. Geez man that Movie is fuckin a badass!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Just not down, man. I have a social disorder that prevents me from enjoying anything that is overhyped by the types of people I don't like.... At that time, Brveheart fell into that category. Might watch it in five years...

    I don't think I've seen an Oscar winner, other than the Coen brothers flick, since whatever won before Titanic.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    After further review... Guess not...

    American Beauty
    Slumdog Millionaire
    Departed

    Seen those. Before that it was Forrest Gump.

    And fuck Mel Gibson. As a husband, he's legit... As a lethal weapon, he's acceptable. As a brave heart, I wouldn't know. As a guy who makes Jesus movies? Fuck him. As a drunk... I'm down. Still, I hope he dies. Soon.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    I could careless about who they are. The movies matter not the actors

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Not to get too off topic but Jeff, I agree with the little things but this is going too far.

    9 Billion dollars.

    Enough said.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I'll see you're $9B and raise you this Erik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJiKUOMHFI&NR=1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One inch... at a time...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This and "in the air tonight" gets me amped.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey guys, I'mmm baaack. But unlike the Terminator, I don't have illegitimate children - that I know of.

    Anyhow, I've been keeping up with the banter, but not necessarily posting as really, it's hard to post in a football blog when, u know, there's no football. And while I reserve deep political, philosophical, and aesthetic convictions, I try not to let those contaminate the DBB. I don't want to be that guy.

    Besides, MIkeBrownPosse and GPLdan have pretty much argued all I would've argued, and if I had to choose, I definitely think the owners are more in the wrong than the players. However, I would like to add a few cents to the pot.

    1) Everyone knew that in Minnesosta, whether it was Doty or another judge, the NFL would lose. BUT, the NFL also knew they would appeal, and that the 8th circuit court had 2 republican judges out of 3

    2)The NFLPA hoped that at least one of the Republican judges would actually decide cases based on reason and not party lines. But as we all witnessed when the Supreme court gifted Bush the presidency, that doesn't happen. How'd that turn out again? Oh yeah, it began with the worst attack on U.S. soil since Pearl Harbor and ended with the worst economic crisis since the Depression, and in the meanwhile, losing all the international goodwill are forefathers had sacrificed for in World Wars and Cold Wars. Now on a smaller scale, Bush is screwing us again beyond the presidency with no football (those 2 judges he appointed).

    3. I think Hub Arkush in March wrote the most insightful analysis of this his whole labor mess, and the only thing that has changed since are court rulings. Here's an excerpt.

    "I understand the position of the 31 owners

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Nice. Leave it to Hub to be the voice of reason.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Great post except for brutal point #2. Who taught you history mang? Joy Behar? Read some real books on the history of al Qaeda and the global debt markets

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ohh yeahh

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Yeah, no shit Johnny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As for when I would lose interest in Football 11 or Football period, that's hard to gage.

    I have always prepared my mind from the start that 2 missed are likely. I had in mind a scenario like 2 last minute preseason games in August-September at the expense of a game or two of the regular season. However, 9/11 is kind of a wild card, and I see that date as a cut-off for me and many fans at least for the 2011 season. The whole labor dispute would seem like a pimp slap to the face when remembering the 10 year anniversary of 9/11, esp since we got Bin Laden recently.

    But if it's November, and I have to decide between watching golf, Soccer, or info-mericials on Sunday tv - and the Bears game is on at the same time - that's a temptation I might not be able to resist. But like others have said - I wouldn't spend a dime on any NFL merchandise.

    I think it might be a little different for Bears and even Packer fans. I read a lot of outraged Buc, Panthers, Jaguars, etc fans that said they would have nothing to do with football anymore - but how long have those teams been around? When you're a fan of a team who had your father, and grandfather, and hell, maybe even great-grandfather as a die hard fan - it's harder to just say 'the hell with 'em' And if you're a Pack fan, you add the dimension of a publicly owned team - no evil owner to punish. In many ways, us Bears fan think we ARE football - the first fans to arrive in the 20s and the last that should leave the stands.

    I think if more than 2 games were missed, I would watch, yet be less invested (and not purchase anything). After all, who the hell wants to win a SB with an asterisk next to it?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    at 1:40 look at who the tallest dude is..

  • In reply to gwill:

    I built my new house a year ago, and one of the greatest things I was looking forward to was years of watching my beloved Bears in my media room every Sunday on DirecTV on my 1080p 103" TV......and then the lockout robbed my of any and all desire to think, talk, read or even comment on anything football. I'm torn, though, as I know the minute this gets worked out I'll turn back into a drone and order the Sunday Ticket and fall back into my old routine. Today, though, I have to admit that I actually have doubts about whether I will be as hardcore as I was. I think the first September/October fall day here in Texas will bring me back if there are games to watch. I hate this, and feel like this is worse than the baseball strike in '94 at this point.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Very poignant, but the only thing I can see in your post is 1080p 103" TV.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Nice read, Jefe. I'm not sure I'm sure, but I think I'm sure I won't spend any money either. Of course, if games aren't missed, then all will be forgiven on my end. Unless they start jacking Direct TV prices or some shit. If games aren't missed, I'll just chalk it up to necessary business maintenance. Even if the owners are being shady. Is this news? I and all of you have always known this. I watch for the colors and the win's. Not for the owners or even the players necessarily. I'll watch when Urlacher retires and I'll watch when we go through another string of Wanny/Jauron type years. I watch for the Bears and the incredible football. Now if they drag this thing out, I'm sure I'll do a little monetary boycott. Won't I?

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    MB. Caffeine pants?

    You callin' me fat, motherfucker?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Dude... I fucking laughed out loud. Don't know why I picked you my man... but thanks. That was funny as hell.

    Is that what they're used for... I thought it was to keep you up. Baaaahahahaha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Idk wth is going on..but caffeine pants is hillarious

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    It would be a good thing for families all over America I think, wouldn't it? Sunday might become more of a family day instead of dad just getting loaded in front of the TV. It's losing the fantasy season that would bother me more, strange as that is. But we effectively say goodbye to Brian Urlacher, Kreutz and Peppers, don't we? It's another two years on those boys if/when they got back ...

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    This badass may deserve an Apocalypse blowjob:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110602/wl_uk_afp/britainmilitaryafghanistannepalaward

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It's a long flight over Johnny... don't forget to drink lots of fluids.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110603/ap_on_re_us/us_obit_kevorkian

    Wonder how he died... Apocalypse blowjob?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He'll be remembered properly one day. RIP.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Fuckin A man. Thats Sweet!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Idk Jeff, I rather take the 25k and give the Bears a "hey better luck next year."

  • Wow, that is awesome Latonya. Great name btw.

    So, you think you can get me in... you know... get me some stuff. Do they sell black tar heroin too? Can I get a kilo... maybe two?

    Can you hook me up Latonya?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, been watching Locked Up Abroad lately.

    Riveting. Small piece of advise for all you budding smugglers (I'm lookin at you Irish)... don't try smuggling hash out of Turkey by taping it to your chest/stomach area.

    ...have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

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