Time For Real NFL Ownership To Step Up

Jumped onto PFT this morning and found this quote from Cowboys celebrity owner Jerry Jones: 

"I didn't spend $1.2 billion to build a stadium and not have the Cowboys playing football in it this year."

No, Jerry, you did not.  But you and thirty-one of your colleagues have the opportunity to ensure there are football games played in Cowboys Stadium, Soldier Field, Lambeau and that 1.6 billion dollar disaster in the New Jersey swamplands.  (If I ran DaJetsBlog.com, I would never stop complaining.)   But I'm willing to forgive ownership groups in Carolina (Richardson's an ass), Tampa (Glazer is London-obsessed), Jacksonville (Weaver would rather own a team in any other American city) and New Orleans (Does anyone trust Benson?).  The bulk of responsibility for this continuing lockout and looming missed season rests squarely on the shoulders of the ownership elite.


That means Jones.  And Kraft.  Rooney, Mara, McCaskey.  The names of men whose families had crafted the game we so love today (the latter) and the names of the families who will see the game into its next era (the former).    It is time for these men (and you, Virginia) whose lives are defined by the football teams they own to stand up and show what the game means to them, what their fans means to them.  It is time for these men  (still you too, Virginia) to stop this contractual tomfoolery and get a deal done.  And if it does not happen, it is on these men.  Not Weaver, Richardson and Benson.

Colts owner Jim Irsay took heat in the press recently for Tweeting that he and center Jeff Saturday could get a deal done on a cocktail napkin - presumably after a few cocktails had been set on that napkins.  I agree.  I believe Irsay and owners like Irsay can accomplish such things.  And that is why this lockout/season is on their shoulders.  In their hands.  And if September arrives without football, we'll have no one but them to blame.  Them includes the family McCaskey.

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  • Good post. Don't know enough about most owners, but I do know that it can't be this hard to get a deal done.

  • "I didn't spend $1.2 billion to build a stadium and not have the Cowboys playing football in it this year."

    He's damn right he didn't. He paid about 60% of that. The people of Arlington and the NFL subsidized the rest. His greedy douchebaggery is depriving people of something they've already paid for.

  • While I agree with this view, I think the players in the league have just as much to gain or lose. I personally believe the players are the one's being unreasonable - these individuals wouldn't have the job/lifestyle they currently enjoy if it wasn't for the Irsay's, McCaskey's, Kraft's and Jones' to name a few. These individuals have done tremendous things for the league in promoting their players/teams, and building the stadiums to give the fans a one-of-a-kind experience and as such, should be able to get their fair share of the profits.

  • In reply to PombeGeek:

    shouldn't your screenname be "The BenjaminS" instead?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Who is John Galt" was already taken.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Represent.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    I knew your name was funnier than that...dammit.
    Waddup, WG?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Occasionally keeping an eye out. Just got back from the honeymoon. Hawaii beats the pants off summer time Omaha.

    Bulls action.

    Stay tuned.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Congrats - although, I can't complain much about the temps here so far...and we've dodged every major storm all spring, which is pretty odd.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Live blogging the apocalypse...

    2:12 A.M., May 21st - At the apt. with ex-girlfriend. Just back from Hub51 in River North. She wants to get back together. But I said no. She got pissed, and I got sad because she got pissed. We talked for 10 minutes. She cried. She called me an asshole. She never did before, caught me off-guard. I feel bad. We're gonna just lay in bed for a minute. Both of us mentioned how foggy it is right now and how strange the vibe is tonight with everybody. Still alive. No earthquakes or tremors yet.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Live blogging the apocalypse...

    4:05 A.M., May 21st - Just had apocalypse sex with the ex. She's in the bathroom "showering." I think we will both regret it tomorrow - if there is a tomorrow. Thought I felt a little tremor shake our bed, but it was probably just the doggy-style thrust that I've perfected since college. Something definitely feels a bit strange right now. Streets are unusually empty. Street lights are flickering. Still alive. Hope the DBB stays safe.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Dude, are you fucking serious!?!?

    Talk about a great off season FA acquisition by me (Yes, I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh, btw... you WILL be converted to a Bears fan before it's all over. Resistence is futile (that's for you GP).

    GP, where you at (ending a sentence with a proposition for the apocolypse)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Battling the zombie Jesus freaks trying to break down my boarded up windows.

    "They're coming to get you!"

    "Stop it Johnny! Stop it!"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice steal from the other blog. Will has arrived with a bang. Not to mention Crown and Waffle are on fire. Great Stuff!

  • In reply to gwill:

    Great posts. Keep the live blogging the apocalypse coming.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Live blogging the apocalypse...

    2:15 P.M., May 21st - Sitting at a Starbucks close to Michigan Ave. Lots of people walking around, especially fine women. Just saw a little person carrying a huge bag from Crate & Barrel...is that another sign of the apocalypse? Not sure, but somebody needs to help the little guy out or he's going to tip over. Everybody seems oblivious that we only have a few hours to live. Big crowd outside The Gap. Still alive.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Live blogging the apocalypse...

    6:35 P.M., May 21st - Oh Shit!

    http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/may/21/iceland-volcano-erupts-prompts-50-quakes-ar-1053894/

  • In reply to gwill:

    Unless God is in a different time zone than Harold Camping, the time has already passed. Feel free to continue Apocalypse sex anyway.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    quote of the year:

    "Depending on your belief system the earth is either 7,000 years old or over 4 billion."

    Camping says 6pm it all goes down.

    G - there is plenty of time for regret sex later today after a super saturday margarita session. commence judgement day bang-a-thon.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Actually, the orthodox Jewish calendar, which starts at creation (actually starts on the sixth day of creation) says we are in the year 5771.

    There are lots and lots of opinions to explain things like radiocarbon dating, dinosaurs, and other obvious questions.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    It's 2554 in Thailand. Mindblower, eh?

    Apparently dinosaur fossils were put here to test our faith in God. Placed here by god too, supposedly, if one follows the logic on ... which would make him a bit insecure and weird for me.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sarah Palin says it's around 5,000, so that's what I believe. She is my God... you betcha!

    (cringe)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The fossils issue basically falls into three categories.

    (1) The dinosaurs were wiped out in the great flood (think Noah's ark), and our methods of aging those remnants are inaccurate due to the extreme temperatures and other environmental conditions during that time.
    (2) The "days" referred to in the first six days of creation were not actually 24 hour periods, so things like dinosaurs, the big bang, etc. could have occurred without disrupting the basic creation narrative.
    (3) Dinos did not live, but the bones are there for some reason. "G-d is testing us" is one theory not really adopted by anyone of note. An interesting theory I have heard is that the bones are there in anticipation of the end of days when the resurrection of the dead happens - and that is when they will actually live.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I LOVED Jurassic Park NB. That would be fun... you know, until we all burn up and do whatever happens in a rapture.

    At least we have a get-out-of-jail-free-card. That's what I've always told my friends, you guys are fucked, I have a GOOJF card when the shit hits the fan.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I believe that the term "rapture" to describe end of days is a christian invention.

    Jews don't get out of jail free. We get a fair shake, just like everybody else.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    NB, you sure know how to ruin all my fun with truth, justice, and sensibility.

    Oh well, I'll still tell all my non-jewish friends that if they're nice to me I'll put in a good word for them.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jameson.All.Night.

    It feels like someone raped my head.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ohhh yeaahhhh!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQjdHUX2T4c

  • In reply to mottystone:

    (4)The earth is millions of years old and the fossils are the remains of dinosaurs that existed on this planet millions of years ago.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That was #2, more or less. One way or another folks in that camp interpret the creation narrative somewhat more metaphorically.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    yeah doc, that was pretty damn easy. So I have a confession...

    I got Apocalypse sex AND a BJ last night for our anniversary

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What's the GOP field right now?

    Those that have actually announced are slim - Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, former NM Gov. Gary Johnson, and Ron Paul.

    Tim Pawlenty is probably going to announce soon as will Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum, but they haven't officially done it yet. For all intensive purposes Mitt Romney is in, but again, he hasn't officially announced.

    Who knows if Chris Christie will run, he's more of a fiscal conservative than a social one I think.

    The guy getting a lot of play today is Herman Cain who just made his announcement. Interesting resume.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Michelle bachmann is a more socialized (and possibly more intelligent) Palin.

    Newt is done

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bachmann is more socialized and more intelligent than Palin...much the way Jonathan Quinn was more skiled... than say Craig Krenzel.

  • In reply to koolking83:

    Probably shouldn't criticize people and mistype skilled-doesn't help the argument

  • In reply to koolking83:

    I can't believe this shit about Garrett Wolfe getting arrested in South Beach. There has to be more to the story than what is being reported. Fuck

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6575776&campaign=rss&source=CHICAGOHeadlines

  • In reply to Joseph:

    How many post-lock out arrests is that now?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    This link has his mugshot which you can enlarge, and it looks like Miami PD threw a couple Manny Pacquiao-esque hooks to his face.

    http://egvsys.metro-dade.com:1608/wwwserv/crts/IPSAWNSX.DIA?PROCESS=D&L_NAME=WOLFE%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&F_NAME=GARRETT%20%20%20%20%20&M_NAME=%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&INITIME=&NAME=WOLFE,%20GARRETT%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&IMTLOC=PTDC%20%20%20%20&ALPHA=10231280&GAMMA=19&DELTA=

  • In reply to gwill:

    I thought that guy was supposed to be elusive.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    He's gonna be a scat back tonight.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +30 on both posts.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1000 Doc and GP. That lack of break-away speed caught up with him in the end.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1000 on the anniversary/end-of-worlf/Kamala style action MB. It puts a smile on my face that good dudes that have been married for years can still fenagle the bagel and double up with a skull bang, even if it costs blood diamonds.

    Romney was done before he announced in my opinion. The fact his health care mandate for Mass in '06 while he was govenor (his greatest legislative accomplishment) was a model for and mirror image of Obama's health care plan. The government alternative provision to private health insurance will kill him in the end.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    thanks Crown my man. She loved the blood diamonds. I don't get it, they're just sparkly rocks.... damn expensive sparky rocks.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What did I miss, an anniversary? She got diamonds for an anniversary? Fuck my life. I can't even afford the ones you use to get married with.

    Happy anniversary Mr & Mrs. MB.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Thanks Irish.

    Yeah, I haven't been able to for the last 5 years either (doing a start up sucks way more than people actually tell you it will), that's why she got something big this time around... she's been waiting for a long time.

    They will for you too man. Have you been slogging to get another gig? Hang in mang.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Congrats MB on the anniversary and the business. I know what you mean about how hard the first five years are. I started at 26 with no capital (my net worth was -30G college debt) and no business sense. That's all I did for 7-8 years was work, but it paid off.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Macho Man was driving one of those stupid jacked up Jeep Wranglers, where - even with Rack & pinion up front - you are fucked and going over if you have to countersteer....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I've had no less than 3 CJ's in my life GP... never did the 'small penis jack up tire thing' with any of them, but man were they fun to drive during summer when I was young. Going shirtless in one of those things on a sunny summer day with a buddy or two almost guaranteed you a hook up with some hot horny chicks on vacation. Awesome. Ahhh those were the days.

    But, yeah... not exactly the most stable vehicles ever designed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I miss my 2007 4-door Wrangler every year, right about now.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    But it reminds me of the time I got caught with the top down about two minutes ahead of a 100-mph straight line wind storm. I was racing through traffic ahead of the hail and wind trying to reach cover. And the soft top on the 4 door was a bitch to put on solo.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    uuuuhhhhh... I live in San Diego MBP.

    ...What's hail?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's just cruel, mang.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    tee hee

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Last word on RMMS.

    Where he probably is right now: http://i.imgur.com/3Q6AH.jpg

    (tapout Jesus!)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101220145231/callofduty/images/e/e8/So_much_win_cry.png

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Check this out... the pics are pretty amazing: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/the_bonus/05/23/macho.man/index.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ooops: http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/05/23/no-job-no-belongings-no-rapture-how-to-rebuild-your-financial/

    It's called social Darwinism... and I approve this message.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Another false prophet bites the dust MB. Death I say, death.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    +1 trac. It's all about increasing donations anyway. This specific church has raised over $72M (yes, million) in donations over thier lifetime. Frightening how in need of XYZ people are to fill ABC void.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    my cold calling worked on that poor bastard. he even gave me his Jeep so I could drive it with the top off this summer. Sorry MBP.

    The fact that this article is even written boggles my mind.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Angela Lansbury!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Yay ! We get a new back ! In a man's body!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Garrett Wolfe was partying when he should have been practicing. I'm thinking he regrets the lockout right about now. I'm pretty sure we will see an end to this madness come late June/early July. Until then, I guess we'll have to be bored out of our minds. In my opinion, Wolfe was as good as gone anyway so this story doesn't even register on my radar. The owners will win this lockout and all the players have to do is find a way to capitulate and save face at the same time. Out.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Maybe GWolfe was that little person with the Crate & Barrell bag that gwill saw....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Huh? Sorry GP, kinda out of the loop on that one.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Obama-cam. Live and unleashed in his 'homeland'.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0523/obama_live.html

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    he looks irish.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Looks like its back to the ewok village for little Garrett. Later, oh waste of a 3rd round draft pick. Take Kahlil Bell with you please.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I never minded having Wolfe on the team. Just wish JA would have drafted him in the 7th Rd instead of the 3rd. The flip side is at least he made the team, unlike Bazuin, Okwo, etc. It doesn't look good now but being arrested and being convicted are two different things. I agree he's probably gone either way.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Agree Canada. Dind't mind him on specials, but he was always a reach in the 3rd round. I bet we could have got him in the 6th or 7th, but Jerry thought he was getting a "steal."

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    The 3rd round hasn't been good to us recently Coach. Okwo, Garrett, I know there are more busts.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Oh ye of little faith.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=201&draftyear=2003&genpos=ILB

    GO BEARS

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    GP, please provide the link to your blind squirrel shirt.

    (I really do have to save that link somewhere)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    thanks GP: http://s838.photobucket.com/albums/zz306/MikeD-2010/?action=view

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ha, I knew i'd get you with that one MB.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    yes you did trac, yes you did.

    I don't even like squirrels any more. Damn Angelo

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    So our new LB is either one helluva human being... or a pedophile.

    I'm thinking the former: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Bears-rookie-J-T-Thomas-takes-young-lady-to-eig?urn=nfl-wp2127

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice find - that's a classy dude.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Classy move mang. That made me tear up a little.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good stuff. I'll be rooting for da kid.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Clayton can't even wait for the lockout to end and camp to start before declaring that the Bears are washed up and will not compete if we have a season:

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/hot?id=6573578

    The kicker for me knowing the national press HATES the Bears was putting the team on the SI Cover the week before the NFC Championship this year. Why not just send Hemlock and pin prick voodoo dolls.

    I've asked God for a a Rapture of One, just sweep Clayton up in a Tornado or something...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    As far as I can tell, the dude is already paying a very very hefty price. His hell is on earth: http://www.espnmediazone3.com/us/2010/04/04/john-clayton/

    I mean, isn't it against the bible to be a virgin at 50-something... AND have male-pattern-baldness with a ponytail?

    He's like a mixture between the king of the nerds, Ren (from ren and stimpy), and the chicken hawk chick that always tried to eat Foghorn Leghorn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Clayton's first day at ESPN School..you douche!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3njjD41f48

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    No I take it back this is Clayton's first Day at ESPAZ School:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkJhZ0OvhA&feature=related

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...did Clayton playing any sport in his life....besides clownboxing?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Spelunking?

    http://www.viceland.com/account/icons/813731663.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    my eyes#$%!@#$%#@! my eyes#@$%!@#!!! thanks GP that image is now burnt into my retina's...damn you LOL!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I miss you guys.

    Not to sound gay but with summer here and me trying to get my summer job all settled and make sure my Grandfather can get out of St. Thomas hospital in TN, well Just can't really get on here as much.

    Funny stories about the end of the world was hilarious.

    Need some advice... pay for preseason game Titans VS. Bears, because I want a autograph from Urlacher or a chance to see him at least, or save it and go to a actual game and hopefully get on TV again lol
    How is everyone and enjoy the summer.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Save your dough.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    invest in a beer making system

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ooohhhh yeahhhh!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    BAAAAAAAHAHAHahahhaaha...

    you looked at your avatar and couldn't resist... couldn't you? Classic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i just looked at my previous comment and it seemed like the perfect punctuation.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    perfect!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    God Damn it (see how I did that): http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_re_us/us_apocalypse_saturday

    Well, at least now we have time to prepare... and I know I'll probably at the very least get laid again in October.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you see, it was just a simple miscalculation and now that it is all straightened out we are back on track.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    yes. simple. I should have done this for my start up. Fuck.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    MBP, Johnny... time to step up: http://uncrate.com/stuff/the-brauler/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    intense

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Man, the Sperminators maid, that's some fugly shit right there.

    Maria must be like sticking your wick in sandpaper. That's what I imagine when I see her. "Za Mariva! No teeth! No teeth!"

  • In reply to gpldan:
  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ba...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good read: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-05-21/keith-mccants-once-the-next-lt-has-urgent-message-while-he-can-remember?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk2%7C64979

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow. I didn't know Andre Waters also blew his brains out.

    The grinder keeps on grinding...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    all players should be required to purchase a home free and clear in their hometown and put the property taxes in an escrow account so they have a home once they piss away everything else.

    All of these kids come from areas where you can buy a fucking house for 80,000 but living the highlife is addicting and when the money runs out they keep spending like they are still earning.

    My buddies who are bond traders have 20% of their commissions held back and paid out once a year so after they blow all of their cash living paycheck to paycheck at the end of the year they have indirectly saved a higher percentage of their income than everyone else in the country. These are educated white upper middle class guys that need to be treated like fucking children but it has to be done. The same thing needs to be done with these players. Like some sort of social security system just for NFL players. You pay into your own account from every check and it is only given to you 5 years past your retirement from the league and is held in trust so it lasts longer.

    Also, all of the older players are all fucked up. That is a given and now changes are being instituted but every time a new story comes out about a guy from 1986 or some shit new and more restrictive rules will be put in place decades late.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Have a special old folks home. The Derrick Thomas memorial if-you-fuckup-you-come-here house.

    They could have toothless skanks dispense the pills.

    Mongo McMichael can play Chief and throw the water fountain through the window at the end, when they do a lobotomy on McMahon.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Speaking of Child Support... Lack jocks Cutty and Kreutz, puts in a plug for Double-A.

    http://www.suntimes.com/5551823-417/brian-urlacher-says-jay-cutler-is-one-of-the-toughest-players-on-the-bears.-

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He talks about "voluntary offseason workouts."

    This is why I can't get on the side of the owners. These players are running drills, probabaly throw & catch backyard-style, at crazy personal risk without protecion of a team contract. If they tear an ACL, God-forbid, they would probably miss a whole year's salary or get "let go." Some may feel this is on the player's if they get injured but I think this goes directly back to the owners.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This whole lockout situation comes down to one thing, "Show me the money". This is nothing more than a never ending game of tic tac toe. I just find it humorous that everyone is trying to impose their political leanings to argue their points on all sides of this issue. To me, that's exactly why the league is in this mess now. When both camps figure out that there will be no winner by shortening the season is this thing keeps dragging on, then they might just get somewhere in the negotiation process. As a fan, I hope they just work it out and move on so we can be entertained.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Sooner or later (June 3 appeal) we'll find some bright line test. In the meantime, owners are kinda flexing right now with "forced" furloughs and/or cutting salaries of front office personnel. At the same time, players are conducting their own 7-on-7 drills on some college campus or in someone's backyard with no contract potection in case of an ACL tear. I'm with you in the end, both sides will need to swallow something they don't want to make this work. Perhaps it will take the owners accepting the 1967 borders and giving back the golan heights?

  • In reply to gwill:

    http://www.aquabacon.com/wp-content/main/2010_11/i-see.jpg

  • In reply to gwill:

    Methinks the players are practicing because they still need to make the team once the season starts. There are going to be a lot of fat bodies that get cut this year. The mediocre and marginal players that keep in shape will have a leg up on those with more skills but are out of shape. These guys need structure in their conditioning and it will come back to bite more than a few of the players if they don't stay in top shape.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Sorry guys, the new posts are mostly mine.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.avatarist.com/avatars/Funny/So-gangster.jpg

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Not to change the subject, but: http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/24/florida.casey.anthony.trial/index.html?hpt=T1

    I don't even know what to think about this, it makes me sick to my stomach man. I can't even fathom any of it... especially since I have a 2 yr old daughter. Fucken a some people are savages underneath it all, regardless of whether it was murder or what the defense is now offering. It's all disgusting.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i have a one yr old daughter and these kinds of stories literally make me cry because I can only think of the little kid and what they go through while they are being fucking killed or raped or beaten by their scumbag parents or relatives or whomever. It makes you want to kill that criminal yourself as savagely as possible so they can feel the pain that they caused.

    I know what i typed sounds crazy but my wife already knows what would happen to someone if they did something like that to my kid. I'd fucking kill the perp and the guys entire family over a period of years for their failures as parents and family. I'd get away with it too because I would approach it with surgical precision leaving nothing to chance and have so many people that would help me accomplish my task.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    hypothetically of course.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.aquabacon.com/wp-content/main/2010_11/fresh-prints.jpg

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Artoo, for you

    http://www.aquabacon.com/wp-content/main/2010_11/marriage1.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dude. THAT shit was funny.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    ...and I think that's for Willie and Crown.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    BAAAAHAHAHAHHAA: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1105/fan.sports.tattoos/content.31.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow, shaking head...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nevermind the idea of the tattoo is totally flawed, it's just such shitty work. That 4 is insanely bad. Glad it's on some Pecker knob. Apparently Waffle likes it as much as I do. Funny shit!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MBP, I've talked to my buddy and his wife. I should have some places for you in a couple of days.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Since sports SUCK right now and this Patriot Act stuff was being discussed not too long ago on here and it is up for renewal in the Seante shortly. Thoughts?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen.-mark-udall/we-must-reform-the-patrio_b_865788.html

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I would hardly call what goes on here most of the time thoughts Z. I think the word impulses would be more appropriate. Sorry boys, couldn't help it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    jesus trac.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You guys are getting boring. Twas time to wake your sorry asses up. Ooh ya.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    thanks

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    no worries Trac, we know you're just telling it like it is. If we all had the wisdom and insight that you possess we would all be much better off.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Trac is like the Buddha. We can only study to ascertain the perfection of his being.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Current word impulses: Hellish brimstone and swarming devil-like locusts.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    we still have 5 months...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You guys gotta love this. It seems the spirit of our beloved "Sweetness" has struck the heart of Matt Forte.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/matt-forte-follows-walter-paytons-lead-in-off-season-training/

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    this is getting bad: http://www.sportsbuzz.com/buzz/13910

    D.Tosh is hilarious: http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/web-redemption---boom-goes-the-dynamite

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVA-cqASg8k&feature=related

  • In reply to gpldan:

    clowns are scary

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My clown's name is "Fresh Prints"

    Get it?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    BA

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/05/25/france.long.vacations/index.html?hpt=C2

    Say what you want about the Frogs, those motherfuckers know how to:

    * Work (or not work)
    * Make/eat great: wine, bread, cheese, food in general
    * Live life

    I will achieve my goal of French-like early (by mid 40s) retirement damn it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I worked at a major university in a high-level job. We got 41 days of PTO. The days the school was closed btwn Xmas and NYE did not count against that. Sick days did not count against that.

    Don't miss the job, but damn do I miss that perk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm glad you posted that article. It's how I live my life. One of the primary reasons I chose academia was because of all the time off. 3 months straight in the summer. 3 weeks around Christmas. 1 week for spring break. And many three day weekends. Even while teaching summer classes I still get 5 straight weeks. So when I get jealous of people who make more money than me, I just remind myself that I get lots of time off.

    Firefighting is a great option for lots of time off. The station I used to work at does it like this. Firefighters work one 24 hour shift, followed by 24 off, then on, then off, then on, then 4 days off in a row. That's 3 days of work every 9 days! If they want a longer vacation than 4 days, they trade a few of their normal off days for their three work shifts. Giving them 13 days off without having to use vacation pay. And they get 2 weeks of paid vacation a year on top of it. Well yes, you say, but they have to work 24 hours in a row! Believe me, at most stations, that time is spent watching ball games, playing cards, reading books, exchanging dear hunting stories, with the occasional emergency thrown in. They do work hard when there's a fire, but they almost never happen.

    The key to picking a good career is to find one that compliments your life, rather than making your life compliment your job. That's just ass-backwards.

    The French have it right.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I've got one word for you Doc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBqOpaRAXJc

    Backdraft.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Firefighters are my heroes. Their job is almost as dangerous as a traveling salesman or a farmer.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Sounds like a great job.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://youtu.be/P2vkiLHiTcY

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hilarious short clip. Thinking of carpet-bombing chicagonow with an assortment of Full Metal Jacket links throughout Memorial Day weekend.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ho.Ly.Sheite.Muslim: http://xboxfreedom.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3/

    This is pushing me to set up the mancave sooner rather than later.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i will inform my wife that my income will decrease by at least 25% once that comes out. Everytime I think I'm out they drag me right back in.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    hells yes Johnny

    If sony ever scratches its way out of the unsafe hacked cesspool of a mess, we ARE going to fucking go big with a DBB beatdown group.

    Oh, yeah... and: When the monkey nibbles on the weenus, it

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i have to warn you. i only shoot at the enemy if I am jumping off of a stair case a roof or soaring out of a window. John Woo style.

    Oh, and i'm that guy that will go into a room with a flash bang and a knife and take out multiple hostiles dying in the process and jump out of the building wait 10 seconds and then fire an RPG into the window to kill the guys that came back for vengeance.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    O.K. boys and girls not sure if this got posted before but:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7870

    Hey Double Duece ever hear of a player with the initials WP!!! this is his regiment...

    last but not least..GP you are now the official drive of my favorite car:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEQcxTyiwWQ&feature=related

    your avatar scares the living SH!#$!$%^!#$%^$!@#%^$T out of me! lol

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    shiete!!!!!!!!!!!!!ESPAZ SIGN HIS ASS UP!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cafferty... doesn't even make an attempt to veil his thoughts, I guess that's why it's an op ed piece (some of the comments are funny): http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/25/with-the-gop-field-so-weak-should-sarah-palin-run-for-president/?hpt=T2

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    uuuuhhhh oh: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110525/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_nfl_meetings

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    owners just got pimp slapped :

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aq1liEpkVMH7hwreDVVidRY5nYcB?slug=ap-nfllabor

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AphT7zeDtC7TyIerllFsrZ1DubYF?slug=lc-carpenter_decertification_strategy_was_bad_move_for_union_052511

    food for thought?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    By July 4th, the demonization of Demaurice will hit on all cylinders. Carpenter again, sidesteps the main issue - the CBA was valid until 2013.

    At least he called out ownership for the illegal fund they created for TV money, in attempt to warchest for the lockout.

    AND - he just asserts that the players won't win. He's right, but he's too chicken shit to say WHY he's right:

    The owners will win because the players will fracture and divide by Labor Day. Mark my words on this.

    To win, the players would have to be willing to take the anti-trust case to higher courts. The lockout is illegal, almost no judicial scholar will argue otherwise - but doing something illegal and getting pinned down on it in business are too vastly different things.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    that was the first article where someone acutally mentioned prominently that the owners initiated everything by backing out. I also wonder where he got his info that the players have been planning decertification since 2008.
    I do believe that Smith is not the right person to be negotiating this. I also believe there are owners that want to end this right now and are at odds with the ones that want to extend until the players break. I like that the coaches are with the players.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What wonderful office you have he-yah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVfiaVM0ap8

    Al, you'll find this very funny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Full episode:http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s15e05-crack-baby-athletic-association

    (Hi I'm Sarah Mclachlan and I was famous for two months)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    holy shit... they still have it. Brilliant.

    ...he IS real guys.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And why, oh why do I love watching this so much: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhA3MR9vNX8

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I take objection with your judicial scholar comment GP. Totally subjective, here say and lacks merit. Objection over ruled.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Correction: the word is hearsay

    And - if you are willing to use Google to find an argument that states the owners lockout is legal under Anti-Trust law, I would happily read it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Just pulling your chain GP. It's all good my man.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Time for the "Real" NFL Players to step up.

    Around the league, players sphincter muscles are starting to pucker up. Of course the Peyton Mannings, Jay Cutlers and Adrian Petersons of the league with the big money contracts are loose as a goose but if they want to make it through the season without career ending injuries, they need to step up to the plate and lobby the players union to get back to the bargaining table and resolve this lockout now.

    These guys of all people know there are alot of players and business's being hurt financially by this work stoppage. If players like the ones mentioned above are the leaders they claim to be, they should man up and start applying the pressure to the players union to get a deal done, like yesterday. Alot of you guys have been railing against the owners for having millions of dollars in the piggy bank and for sandbagging the negotiation process but nobody's even mentioned the players with the big money contracts who are laughing all the way to the bank. Why do they get a pass? For the sake of the game, players like them need to be applying the pressure to the Union bosses to get a deal done and if they really cared about the league minimum players like they say they do, they would think twice before breaking the bank with their ridiculous contracts while sipping on their mai tai's on the beach while both sides duke it out. Like it or not, they have a responsibility to apply the pressure to the powers at be on their side of the fence to end this lunacy. It's a shame that players like Snelling are forced to be the ones to do grow a set of balls and raise hell with the Players Union concerning the current sorry state the negotiations are in now. Until this starts to take place, it's gonna be a long summer boys.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Do you like my new Roger Goodell avatar?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I do actually.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hmmmm, kinda gives me an idea.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey T-Rex, I found a new avatar for you.

    http://biggestbearfan.com/images/100_0924.jpg

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It's starting....

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/27/another-player-asks-for-negotiations-to-resume/

    Will the real players step up to the microphone?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    And there's this.....

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/agent-wants-to-present-latest-labor-offer-to-players-these-guys-are-driving-these-players-right-off-a-cliff/

    I hate to say it Jeff(actually, no I don't), but you missed the painful truth with your thread. While the owners & top dog players eat caviar and sip Dom, the little guy continues to get squeezed. Personally, I don't want to play into the owners or the players associations hands. There is a major story out there dude, go and get it. Sure it may cost you an interview down the road but......be the ball....see the ball.....

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    He IS Gp, Esq. you know.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I can't decide if Sarah is hot or a little too butch.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/motorcycle-sarah/about-sarah.html

    More pictures would help render a verdict.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Whats worse, Obama, high gas prices, bad jobs market and Trac?
    or
    Palin, high gas prices, bad jobs market and Trac?

    Either way, you're screwed.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I would try a Sarah sandwich.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Meh. Check my milking link up a bit GP. MAN that chick knows how to walk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That sowing induced a serious bone cone.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    hahahaha... excellent.

    Hey Crown... welcome to the future: http://uncrate.com/stuff/google-wallet/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Looks like beach volleyball player Gabrielle Reece.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Based on the only pic I saw on her blog, she looks like a a trucker-stop Rachel Maddow type or Paul from the Wonder Years without glasses. I'd still do her.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    That's the spirit.

    Here's what Cutty bought himself for 5 carats:

    http://www.toofab.com/2011/05/26/kristin-cavallari-bikini-body-engagement-ring-jay-culter-photo/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hmmmm... on closer inspection, check out her hips and upper thighs area. Snickers better make damn sure she doesn't stop the 'I'm playing the horny drunk girl on tv' routine in the gym... ever.

    That chick is like a deflated ballon that can just explode out.

    also, another 15 carats gets you Kim... is the value really there for that 'upgrade'?

    I hope they look back on this era and laugh... an era where a somewhat good looking dumb chick can make millions of dollars for doing litte more than being... a somewhat good looking dumb chick, on tv. smh.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    HOT.....smokin hot!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sounds like this guys running a little low on cash.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/26/jason-snelling-why-arent-we-meeting-every-day/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    that dude is a stud. How about he comes to chicago and helps us with our abysmal goalline %s

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If the lockout ends will we get a new thread?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    you'll get nothing and like it spaulding!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You wanna earn 100 bucks the easy way?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    oh, but it looks good on you

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    zing!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ok, couple other non-football items:

    1. I was serious. I am getting my shit together and putting in the man cave in June (at least the TV and PS3): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiTJbr9m04. Once this bad boy comes out, who

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is there a wrestling game that plays online for the PS3? With all the classic characters from the 1980s? I want to play that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oooohhhhh... good call GP. http://ps3.ign.com/articles/965/965159p1.html

    BOOM!

    I also just bought the UFC game... any interest in that one?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec0BGhMOsfk

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    send me your pirate video feed for UFC but promise me i won't go to prison

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I cant promise anything... but if there's loud knocking at your door... DON'T ANSWER!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Bte, any of you guys watch swamp people... fascinating.

    Troy is my favorite ... love listening to him talk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've meant to actually. When is that on? and what network?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    http://www.history.com/shows/swamp-people

    Here's Troy: http://www.history.com/shows/swamp-people/videos/swamp-training-with-troy#swamp-training-with-troy

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh... new episode on tonight Doc. Enjoy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Faaaaaascinating: http://www.history.com/videos/swamp-training-with-troy#swamp-people-big-head-bites-it

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My fave new show is Shameless with William H. Macy. Funny as hell and naked womens. Gotta love it!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I forgot. It's supposed to take place in Chicago.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    For the State Rights scholars on dbb...

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-26/supreme-court-upholds-arizona-illegal-hiring-law.html

    Supremes back AZ immigration law...5-3.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Gold farming? Bah.

    They should be forced to play in Madden tournaments...

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/video-games/controller-freak/chinese-prisons-force-inmates-to-farm-gold-in-mmo-games/article2035909/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Somebody esplain to me how this works....

    mang.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/285951-rush-limbaugh-buying-vikes-moving-to-la?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

    Oh man, this couldn't have come from a movie. Holy shit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Rush will own the Vikes (the mascot is an Aryan after all), and Donovan McNabb will be his QB.

    The movie will be called "two and a half men"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I know I haven't been around in a while, but, um, nice photo GP.

    You guys are freaking me out on the Vikings thing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well. Should be no problem beating the team of white guys he assembles. So there's that.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    where in THEE hell have you been? Getting snipped I hope.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Still.....no. Still very escared. Very escared.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    ...so very escared

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://uncrate.com/stuff/sixpoint-craft-ales/

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I am a fervent fan and you know what? I have lost interest. I am not paying attention to the blog (sorry), nor the news, nor the Google alert I have set for 'Chicago Bears' (although I did catch the Garrett Wolfe thing, what a dumbass). I don't give a rat's ass what Jerry Jones wants nor thinks. Ray Lewis is working on getting some spotlight, but that's nothing new.

    I am all about my Bears, and football overall. And I have lost interest. Wonder what is happening to the casual fan? The owners need to be worried about more than their stadiums.

    PS: Peanut is 4 months old now......58 pounds. FIFTY EIGHT.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Thats a great picture of Peanut. Just one problem, it looks like he is wearing a Cub hat! Photoshop that out. LOL

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Not a chance there, Murph. We're Cubs in the summer, Bears in the winter, and I think the Bulls just killed me a little bit last night.....

  • In reply to sjvl:

    New picture please!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Are there ANY congressmen asking their constituents to petition them to repeal the Federal Reserve act? One would think that saving trillions of dollars by not letting private banks have the monopoly on currency supply would be of interest to at least some Citizens? American governments have already regained control of their own currency six times. What's taking so long now?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We don't have any money left Irish, it's all gone. When the spoiled dirty doper diaper babies finally figure it out, we'll be speaking Chinese and farci.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh and burn in hell Bin Laden and RIP Macho Man and please if the Bulls can't miraculously beat the Heat let Dirk do it so those bastards are denied. Yes I derive pleasure from watching Kobe and Lebron come up short. Quite a bit actually.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    100% johnny - wait till she's 2+ and has a real personality.

    I swear to god I would not be able to hold myself back. You'd see me on the news shooting the piece of shit in the face with a .44 as he walked to the courtroom if anyone touched my baby.

    ...uhhhh... hypothetically of course.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The girl is a compulsive liar, and her lawyer a scumbag, grabbing a handful of shit throwing it and seeing if any of it sticks.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    100% murph

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    As soon as I saw that bitch ... I thought flick the switch now. And you need a license to have a dog ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I just want to thank whoever was the first guy to bring Epic Meal Time to this blog. I'm hooked. Mashed Potatoes...no big deal.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Bodhi was that you?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    welcome my man.

    Nice new avatar! Farve #4 in green and gold FOREVER maaaaaaan!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ...some Jack Dangniels!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZDv9pgHp8Q

    We made a breakfast fort...to keep the haters out

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ...we 'bout to get drunk off pancakes... johnny.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Are we in heaven... cause it's raining bacon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rUEpmbdZLw&NR=1

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    fucking Korver

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Old school wrestling, Bronko Nagurski style.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TF7hdX37vY

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Because being an all pro fullback, defensive tackle and offensive tackle wasn't enough

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Czabe got the (well deserved) hammer out for everybody's favorite 4-Letter wonk, Chris Berman.

    http://czabe.blogspot.com/2011/05/day-pork-rib-gets-sideways-in-his.html?showComment=1306505820056#c826992019900874630

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Warner kinda echo's my "thoughts" from yesterday.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/40822/warner-again-says-players-have-to-relent

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    A sloppy Roethlisberger ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCxFn3sAw68&feature=relmfu

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I love the one where Muscles Glasses is "mashing taters like he mashes haters"

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Did you just utter the phrase?

    I just find it humorous that everyone is trying to impose their political leanings to argue their points on all sides of this issue.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's true. I don't see the point in arguing one way or another on this issue anymore. It is what it is.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Like, Maria didn't KNOW what was going on?

    Yeah, suuure.

    A) She was happy being "Mrs Governator.

    B) She is, after all, a Kennedy Woman.
    They all marry serial philanderers.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you've been married and divorced GP... you know what it's about... ass kickings... or lack thereof.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How cool would it be if Arnie's divorce lawyer's name was John Connor?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hahaha... nice.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If the owners win the upcoming lockout injunction appeal, the players association will fold like a cheap suit and make the necessary concessions to cut a deal. The players almost made a deal this spring when the owners met 7 out of 10 demands they were making. Maybe they need to just reconsider their position on the three items they couldn't agree upon.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/05/24/nfl.owners.ap/index.html?sct=nfl_t2_a5

    I don't think the players want to start looking for jobs and that's what some of them are going to have to do if they start missing games.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Speedy recovery to Jor-el Snr.

    Real game. Naked streak along the Bears sideline.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Hope your grandpappy is feeling better Erik.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Jack Dagniels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toiLy3R-38M

    (man this is nasty. Asian culture busts out some epic and some just downright scary shit. Irish... stories?)

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I just don't see this ending well. The players want a 50% split of all profits no matter how big the pie gets and the owners know that the pie is just going to get bigger as the league becomes more and more popular and know that giving 50% of the pie will equal billions and billions of dollars over the next couple of years.
    This is a complex process because it is a hybrid of capitalism. There is nothing communistic or socialistic about it because the money doesn't really trickle down too far past the top players in the league. It's not like the practice squad players will be getting a significant bump in pay or the undrafted free agent will somehow now sign some huge contract. These profits are and have been going to the very cream of the crop. That sucks for the player who grinds out a 2-4 year career never really starting or getting marquee money. The other part about this situation that is weird is that this league is so completely different from a normal business that to hear some random joe blow tell the players to shut up and take what they are given because they wouldn't have jobs if it wasn't for the owners doesn't hold water. The league is what it is because the top talent plays in that league. The owners are the lucky recipient of the profit generated by the fact that the american public loves watching dudes play football that are fucking fantastic at playing football and don't just tune in and also spend billions simply because the game itself is awesome. If that was the case we would all be watching grade school and highschool football instead of the NFL.
    Troy was right in that they should be allowed to fight against the idea that the owners have the money and therefore the power. He also has to realize that the players have a ton of power as well and that that power has to be wielded in a common sense way. Both sides have a ton of power and that is why this hasn't been resolved yet. The fan is being treated as an afterthought since both sides have conveniently forgotten where over half of the revenue of the league comes from or even scarier and more frustrating is that both sides know we give them over half of the revenue and they are so confident that we will just sit there and continue to shell out money and boost their profits as long as there is some sort of NFL football occurring.
    Both sides fucking suck for abusing our loyalty like this.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Waffle -

    Is there or is there not a salary cap in the NFL?

    Is the players gripe that the cap must go up commensurate with profit percentage?

    Let's start there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    One more relevant point:

    The NFLPA (prior to its disbandment) had audit rights over each team's general ledger and balance sheets.

    Therefore - the union and Smith know MUCH more about the economic health of the clubs than the public knows.

    If the owners would simply open their books in the same way as a publically held company does, a huge amount of the fog would be lifted.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    For those in the finance industry or brokers, this book is a kind of bible:

    http://corporatefinance.mckinsey.com/knowledge/knowledgemanagement/books.htm

    And, if you applied the principles in this book to the Chicago Bears - do you know what you would probably find out? Or should I say, almost CERTAINLY find out?

    That the curve of those yellow bars at the bottom of this sheet:

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/30/sportsmoney_nfl08_Chicago-Bears_301335.html

    are some heavy-duty bullshit.

    And Mikey and Ginny, they damn well know this.

    So - you will never see open books on NFL teams. Ever.

    Yet, you subsidize with your tax dollars (if you live in Chicago) much of Soldier Field for the Bears. Even if you don't like football. So, since your tax bucks go towards helping the team, don't you really have a right to know things like cash flow and misc. expenses?

    I guess in this post TARP world, where profits go un-taxed, but losses get subsidized against the Fed, maybe not. That is the dystopian bullshit that exists.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Goodell to Demaurice Smith:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU

    Gotta get me some Drago on a Tuesday morning...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Judgement day just got moved back to 10 days before Halloween. Somebody should trick or treat to Boffing's house as Jesus and yell "I've come a-knocking!"

    Myself, I prefer to dress as Randy Savage this year.

    http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/24/harold-camping-judgment-day-did-actually-happen-saturday/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Check out the woman in red jump in there to take one for the team:
    http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/hot_video/052411-video-foul-ball-lands-near-president-bush

    Wonder if she's SS or just a good friend.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i believe that is correct. That is one of the main reasons the owners broke the perfectly acceptable agreement. The owners want a cap on how high the splitting of profits grows because they know that if they can find a way to slow down the players pace it will speed up their chance to gain billions so they can spend to their little hearts content on new stadiums and shit. that is why the opening of the books will shed the light on the owners lying about sustainable profits and how the current splits don't work. Except that they do work and the books would prove it....unless the teams run their businesses like greek burger joints and have a set of books that show them losing millions.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Parade report:

    We were second to last in the parade and waited in the sweltering humidity for all the other floats for about 30 minutes.

    About 5 minutes before we were meant to go on the weather quickly turned cloudy. A minute later we felt the first drop. A minute later it was pouring rain.

    The boys threw their drums on and marched through the rain to the cheers of all who were watching. Musically they were nowhere near professional, but its still amazing to see what can be accomplished in one week. And the most important thing of all happened, all the parents smiled.

    I'm not sure where Gabe was during the band playing, but I saw several Dads come up to their sons to say they'd gotten autographs. When I got a chance to walk back I saw Gabe standing behind the reviewing stand in a Bears cap and a smile taking pictures and signing whatever people asked him to. The crowd was smallish, and the kids got lots of attention.

    I wanted to try to chat with him if there was a parade staging area or something where he wasn't surrounded, but it was not to be. I just walked up and shook his hand. Told him the kids were really excited and we were happy he came out. And I wished him good luck blocking Clay Matthews: "Better you than me."

    He mentioned that Matthews had apparently tested positive for HGH or something similar recently. I said "every little bit helps, but that guy doesn't need any pills to be a beast, its in the genes." Gabe sort of laughed and said "yeah, he's a good player."

    I got the impression he's a nice, folksy guy. Maybe he's not good at being the "yes sir no sir" rookie a la Tim Tebow, hence the cocky reputation, but it seems to me he's just a bit too low key for that. Also noted that he looked very trim... he's a head taller than me (I'm 6'2"), but not overly bulky. I don't think he's got the body type to play in the middle of the line... so I really hope he works out at tackle, cause that's what he's built for.

    All in all, I think Gabe's personality will fit in well with Jay, Lovie and some of the other Bears leaders. Hopefully we'll be seeing him in that Bears cap for years to come.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Hope he works out Einstein, I think he will. Now all we need is a left tackle, left guard, center, and a right guard and we can get the Lombardi. Oh, and a replacement for the midget.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    He will work out at right tackle Irish. Not so sure about left tackle. If he buys Jay 1/2 a second, I'll take it. Anything over the nightmare I witnessed in the meadow lands last year.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    These guys should stick to football. I wonder who was this guys economics professor? Oh Lord, please let there be football....soon.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/23/polamalu-says-players-are-fighting-big-business/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    'Millionaires vs billionaires' is great spin for the owners. It puts them on equal footing and presses them to negotiate some of the terms.

    But the CBA isn't up until 2013. Even Ghost of Halas seems to either not know this, or chooses to ignore it.

    So, the only argument that is relevant to the court system is:

    Are the owners colluding to unilaterally break a valid contract?

    Answer: yes

    Therefore, there is a winnable anti-trust case there.

    Problem is, the players don't have the cohesion and unity to stick it out past Labor Day. How ironic that Labor Day will break them.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And Troy is doing what he can for the players, by trying to say they are NOT all rich guys.

    In fact, most players are just trying to hang on in the league for 2-3 years and make a bit of jack. After that, most have to sell cars or real estate or go to work in some other job.

    And, don't the players make the league what it is? Isn't the league predicated on taking the fastest and strongest college athletes and grinding them up and spitting them out for our amusement? Are we not entertained?

    Indeed, it is the owners who were the douchebags in the back of their Ethics course during Biz School playing crazy 8s who need to go back to school on this.

    But it has always been the purview of the really wealthy to feel they can break any agreement and then just use the court system to outspend the opponent on meaningless jockeying and trivial civil procedure dalliances to escape any real sense of justice.

    Right?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Is the Khalid Bell experiment over? I would have kept Travis Minor last year over Bell, but with Hungry Like the Smurf now playing the role of Bubba's spinner, we will need a 3rd back in case Forte or Taylor are no go.

    Are we getting some of that Samoan Sandwich bread back there?

    Didn't one of their dads show up on DBB to pimp his kid?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah GP, but who knows... that could have been one of the packer douches.

    I'd like to se the sangwich in action on goal line.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, Unga's still on the roster, get that boy in the weight room and beef up some and he could be a real banger for us. Exciting. Just goddamn exciting if we can get some blocking up front. Weapons and outs everywhere, with a mobile cannon if all else fails. Find a left tackle and a big receiver and this shit could go ballistic.

    Speaking of which ... it seems the world and his dog has Carimi starting at RT ... fair enough, his footwork isn't good they say, and he can have problems with speed off the edge. Okay. But then there is an apparently foregone conclusion that World Wide Webb moves to LT? Whoa nelly. The dude wan't fit to be starting at RT anywhere in the NFL last year and now he's the chief protector of Cutler's blind side? Dude should be cleaning droids for a living, now he's Mace Windu? Not buying it. No big slow seventh round draft pick is locking up the left side of the franchise. There's Caleb and then that's it. That's the season. Right now, WWW is walking like a duck, quacking like a duck, and pretty much looks like a duck. Is Chris Williams really that bad? Didn't he own Jared Allen as a LT? Wasn't he our first round draft pick? Jerry found us our best option in the seventh round? Fire Omelette's overpaid ass, stick Webb on the bench where fate has destined him to be, and either get some help in FA or let CW do what you drafted him to do.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If free agency ever gets here, I look to see the Bears make a move or two to make our line legit. It makes sense, the question is, will they do it?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bill and Ted had the most excellent adventure. Rufus could play the most excellent music. I think this is the kind of music they were talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYkpKvrzOI8

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    69 Dude!!!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    It would be nice if world or local problems could be solved over a bowl of Sour Diesel or Green Crack, with a few beers. Crown, when the Tedeschi Trucks Band plays Chicago, take the lady. It's like music from heaven. I still want to hear about the Galactic New Years Eve show.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    If this work stoppage ever ends in time for the Bears to practice before the season starts, I think our D will maybe even make the top 5 this year. I don't know about you guys but I can't wait to see what these kids Conte and Peau can do. Wooton may make things interesting as well. The rest of the boys will bring it but I'm hoping some new stars emerge.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/712112-chicago-bears-insider-will-the-defense-be-even-better-in-2011

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We'll probably put together some kind of a season, but I honestly can't disagree with the injury thing. No way we get that lucky two years in a row. We needed to knock it out of the park when we had the chance, and could have done it with a T.O. on the team.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You lost me at "and".

    Agree with everything up till, "and could have done it with a T.O. on the team."

    In my mind, it was that fucking ridiculous last game of the season where we kind of sort of went full bore. We could have and 100% should have beat GB to keep them out of the playoffs... but in classic lovie fashion, we kind of go full bore... with only scrappy doo at WR!?!?!?

    That was pathetic. Tell the press you're going to go full bore, then don't really do it on the field. We win that game and we're in the SB. Lovie is a pussy. and our season ended because he was an abysmal failure at his one and only self-imposed directive.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://s838.photobucket.com/albums/zz306/MikeD-2010/?action=view¤t=angelooo.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    thank you sir.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I likey..GP but I still like his other handle..."Glitchy"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn proud of one of our Bears Today!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You just haven't heard enough out of Bachmann's mouth since she hasn't figured out Twitter yet. Once that happens...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh, I've hear plenty MBP... I just don't think it's physiologically possible to be as moronic as palin. It's not fascinating, or even car-wreck interesting

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Neanderthal

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dirk Nowitzki is a great specimen of a Neandertall.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You've got a point - but I think it's a near run thing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One of the best comments ever...if there was a like option it would promptly be utilized.

  • In reply to gwill:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/offhanded-dribble/2011/05/coming-to-a-comedy-clubpsych-ward-near-you-the-2012-gop-presidential-candidates.html

    A sad bunch of hypocritical pandering fools....besides that they're fine.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Happy Anniversary MB. How many years is it?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    thanks doc. 6 sir.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Congrats, mang - mine is in 6 months.
    Doc, you're one of the other 36ers here...when is your anniversary?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    August. 5 years.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Just in time for training camp!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1000 on your anniversary/end-of-the world/Kamala banging MB. It makes me smile that good dudes that have been married for years can still score a nice face bang when need be, even if it involved blood diamonds.

    That Beck puppetry show was the scariest thing I've ever seen. Dude would have dominated Mr Rogers behind the curtains.

    Romney might be the biggest douche of all the GOP candidates. Yes, he has business experience and presents well, but that's about it. His health care plan he mandated as Gov of Mass in '06 requiring individuals to buy private health insurance or otherwise be enrolled in a government programs will be the death of him. Guess who had the same model in his health care plan...Obama. Romney is running on Obama health care plan. The president even admitted that Romney's health care act served as a model for his own plan which is a mirror image of Romney's. GOP is weak sauce right now. They better hope Cain can organize or someone not discussed emerges soon.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Thanks Crown. I thought it was pretty fucking cool too.

    Yeah, I haven't done much research I must admit. I'll get more into it as we appraoch the season.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If I get the chance today, I am going to ask Gabe Carimi if he'd do an interview for the blog. Jeff, if that happens, I will do my best to get you contact info.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I was jut about to ask you how the parade went NB. It's today huh. Pretty ballsy to schedule it the day after the rapture.

    Tell Gabe we're all hoping he can save our oline and Jay's neck. Have fun today.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Even-Congressmen-enjoy-making-fun-of-Jay-Cutler?urn=nfl-wp2071

    I just liked Jay alot more.

  • In reply to PombeGeek:

    Any truth to the rumor the the bigger disagreement is actually the one amongst the owners than between the owners and players?

  • In reply to PombeGeek:

    stadiums don't give you a one of a kind experience buddy. Bears fans would watch the team play on a fucking highschool football field if it came down to it and most other fans would do the same. only the most douche baggiest of fans would only attend games if the stadium was some sort of fucking theme park like in Texas. That is all on Jones because he wanted some sort of spectacle to distract the fans from the fact that the Cowboys can't ever do anything with their seasons.

    The players enjoy the lifestyles they have because they earned the right to by doing things that no other humans can do (well). They are the best in the world at what they do and that is why we love the sport. To say that the owners should be able to opt out of a contract and then lock the players out because they realized that the league was way more profitable than projected is lunacy. The players and teams themselves put people in the seats and cause us to spend out of our asses something to the tune of 5+ billion dollars to buy NFL profit centers. TV kicks in the other 4+ billion because they know we will tune in every fucking weekend during the season, before the season and after the season to keep experiencing football. Why do you think the draft took so many days???
    The owners pulled some bullshit with the networks to ensure that they would pull in profits knowing that they were going to lock the shit up. Fucking bullshit move.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    and furthermore:

    There is no doubt that the owners have done a good job helping to make the NFL what it is. A fucking cat could run a team at this point and still finish .500 once in a while. The reason is because the talent from college migrates to the NFL en masse because that is where the money and best competition is. The fans have brought the NFL to where it is today. The fans provide, both directly and indirectly, all of the funds required to run the league in a proper manner. The fans are getting fucked by the owners because the owners decided to opt out of a perfectly reasonable agreement between owner and labor. It made everyone rich. It would have continued to do so.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    and further further more:

    Rodgers...DEAD!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Niiiiiice

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I couldn't agree more. Irsay and Saturday could easily come to an agreement, but Irsay is different from most owners and Saturday is a great human being as well as a dedicated player. I'm more for the players than the owners because the players put themselves on the line and the majority of the coin still goes to the owners.
    Waffle, I would agree if you said Jared Allen, the Williams sisters, or any other hated NFC North players, but Rodgers actually seems like a stand-up guy. He's even friends with Jay and defends him when most pile on. If he were a Bear, I'd like him. So maybe Peppers could just help him sprain an ankle just before the playoffs. How's that?

  • In reply to bearsfanatic:

    I harbor no ill will towards Rodgers and am confident he gives a find blowjob. He simply must die like Stafford because he is the qb of the pack.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    don't you hate it when lack of spellcheck fucks up a great joke?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    BAAAHAHAHAHAHAa... nice... again.

    Hey bf... Rodgers.... FUCKING DEAD!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    What is it that you want ownership to do? They have come a mile...and the players haven't come an inch. Believe me, I think the owners had some AWFUL items on the agenda going into negotiations back in February and I was whole-heartedly rooting for the players to get better healthcare and kill the 18-game season and that has been accomplished.

    I really believe the owners want to end this. I really believe the individual players want to end this...De Smith on the other-hand does not. This is his moment in the spotlight. Smith doesn't want to deal. He has repeatedly used hateful rhetoric saying that the NFL's last deal back in March was the worst labor proposal in the history of professional sports. Seriously? Does anyone really think that?

    The power to end this isn't just in the owners' hands, as you imply. They can't just sit at the bargaining table all by themselves. The players have got to meet the owners on a middle, tenable ground. That's what negotiations are all about. I just don't know what you want to owners to do.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/16/even-in-defeat-de-smith-rolls-out-the-rhetoric/

    Are you telling me that's conciliatory?

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Who opted out of the agreement?
    Who initiated the lockout?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Who won't negotiate?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Opted out of what agreement? The CBA that expired?

    Who decertified and filed a anti-trust lawsuit? If you do remember the lockout was instituted only AFTER the lawsuit was filed. Don't believe me, do some research. The NFLPA lost my support when THEY opted out of continued negotiations and filed a lawsuit.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Here's some research:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3404596
    Again - the owners actively opted out of the agreement. It didn't just "expire" - that would have taken place in 2013.
    The owners also have consistently refused to provide proof of the financial hardship that they claimed was the root cause of opting out two years of the CBA after it had been in place for all of two years. They also negotiated the tv contracts with the end game of a lockout in mind.
    I'm not saying you should be sympathetic to the players, but the history of this dispute rests squarely on the shoulders of the owners.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    2009 and 2010 were so wildly lucrative for the NFL that the owners realized that they were losing out of hundreds of millions of dollars if not more than a billion of profit with the agreed upon structure. that is why they backed out early.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    My technical point is that they backed out in early 2008, when no one but the most dire economists was claiming were we -in- a recession. We were certainly slowing down, and via trailing indicators you can say we were well into a recession, but these bozos didn't know that at the time. If they claim otherwise, they are full of shit and they know it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That shut him up.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wow, scary avatar GP.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    The only problem I have is that the owners refuse to open up their books. I'm not saying they should have to, in general. But when you claim you're losing money on the current deal, in a time when the NFL has never been more popular or lucrative, you should have to back that up. If their argument holds any water, I can see nothing wrong with their position. Without proof, I side with the players.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    doc, i agree, there is no proof and that is why the books won't open. THE LEAGUE HAD NEVER BEEN MORE LUCRATIVE. TV throwing money at the league like Pacman to a stripper. Companies busting down the door to throw money at the TV networks for advertising. More fucking Cadillac and Chase commericals in a game than you can shake a fucking stick at. Fans throwing money at sponsors and the league like there was no tomorrow. Owners realizing they willingly signed an agreement that was going to end up costing them dearly because of the increase in popularity and sudden surge in profits.
    They made up some bullshit excuse about loss of revenue and harm and when the players called their bluff and asked for proof the owners were shit out of luck.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I hate that I like Rodgers. I think he's the best QB in the league right now.

  • In reply to PombeGeek:

    Ben, not trying to be a dick but I really have a hard time siding with the owners. Nobody pays to see those guys. Most people would be perfectly happy if they never saw them. Esp, owners like Jones and Snyder. They stick the public with the bills and scoop the gravy. The only reason they are good at promotion is because it lines their pockets. I would be willing to bet most of the owners wouldn't give you the time of day unless they thought they could swindle you out of more money. The fiasco at the SB should tell you all you need to know about Jerry Jones.

  • In reply to PombeGeek:

    NB... your thoughts: http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/19/obama.israel.palestinians/index.html?hpt=P1&iref=NS1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Seems like kind of a bold statement to me. I don't know if he'll put any muscle behind it, but it's definitely a bold statement.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I read Thomas L Friedman shit to keep up on events and prevailing thoughts of the Israel/Lebanon/Mid East sitchyation. player won the pulitzer 3 times.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not much totally new withthe position, just more energy behind the delivery.

    Personally, I'd give Obama the big fuck you Charlie (which Israel will)... see the thing is that they got the land by winning a war that they didn't start. It would be like Germany telling us to give the west back to the American Indians.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I give him credit for having A policy on this. Romney wasted no time in accusing him of abandoning (?) Israel by asking them to concede on a territorial question. But, candidates using foreign policy points willy nilly as leverage for upcoming campaigns is the cross we bear.
    Both sides are going to have to budge significantly; one can only hope that at least one significant adjoining country steps up and begins to act like a partner in the process rather than using the Palestinian cause as leverage (Syria, I'm talking about you).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Thousands of years say.... no mbp

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Meh - it's possible; people said that thousands of years proved Orthodox, Catholics, and Muslims couldn't co-exist in "Yugoslavia"...but that was bullshit propaganda. There were really a thousand years of history that proved otherwise. When you remove the incentives which powerful men use to fuel religious and ethnic identities for their personal benefit, these "thousand-year" conflicts tend to dry up in a hurry. Unfortunately, Israel is absolutely surrounded by the same strong-man model of leadership that Serbia was under, and they have been for quite some time. Fix that and the problem goes away.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP, I'd love to sit down and have a long conversation with you over 16 beers. It would be fun. I think we have the same goals, just different ideas on how to achieve them. I'm officially insane according to the government, so I don't really know what I'm talking about. Some friends I grew up with wrote this song about me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22QS1WIbM0w

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Oh hell yeah; one of my best friends is way to the right of me politically and we've had some great talks about history and politics over a case of beer.
    Great video btw.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    DeMaurice Smith is certainly turning himself into the villain in this thing. As unlikable as Goodell is, Smith comes off as 10x worse. I knew it as soon as he was anounced as the new head of the players union and he came out wearing a pimp hat that we were in trouble.

    His mouth looks like the hood of a cunt when he talks.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    don't trust anyone with an underbite Coach... ever.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    my dad always used to say:

    Little Waffle, never go to bed angry...and never trust a smug, pimphat wearing attorney with a god complex and aspirations to go into politics after he fucks up a labor negotiations by running his cunt mouth.
    serenity now.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    we could have hired Troy Smith or Trace Armstrong, both respected players and past presidents of the NFLPA i believe. jussss sayin.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It's ok Johnny: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/20/my-take-doomsdayers-not-so-different-from-the-rest-of-us/?hpt=C2

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i made a list of cold calls i need to make to these batshit crazy motherfuckers. Maybe i can get them to sign over their checking, savings, money market accounts and any IRA's or 401k's.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    bingo

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would be happy to act as a nonprofit recipient of their donations. I promise to pay myself a small portion of the gross proceeds as an administrative fee.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    naturally

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Just won't happen MBP. Never.

    The rulers of arab nations/terrorist organizations (not to generalize of course) just don't 'get' diplomacy/decency/compromise... it's just not part of the culture. It's seen as weakness and a sign that the other party should be attacked and vanquished. How do you have peace with a culture that sees things that way? And yes, what

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When you're dealing with savages like this... and it's just a normal, accepted PART OF THEIR CULTURE... how do you ever expect that these people can be reasonable and proffer peace MBP?: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/20/mideast.honor.killing/index.html?hpt=P1&iref=NS1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I was just browsing the main stories on CNN...

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/19/us.terror.charge/index.html?hpt=T2

    The government affidavit cites the CNN interview.

    "We're commanded to terrorize the disbelievers," Morton told Griffin. "The Quran says very clearly in the Arabic language ... this means 'terrorize them.' It's a command from Allah."

    ... this is how they think. How do you reason with such insanity that's actually a main tenent of the religion?

    "Morton said he did not define terrorism as killing innocent civilians. "I define terrorism as making them fearful, so that they think twice before they go rape your mother or kill your brother or go into your land and try to steal your resources."

    ...go into your land??? dude, you're a fucking white guy from fucking Brooklyn! Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry to drag this out, but: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/19/israel-borders-obama-middle-east-speech_n_864306.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%7C64364

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You would be hard pressed to fit a piece of paper between those comments and the conduct of Serb commanders in the war over Kosovo. And those were Orthodox Christians acting according to what they recognized as legal authorities.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I hear what you're saying MB, and perhaps I'm being myopic, but cultures and society can change. In Europe, they once killed thousands of women because they were suspected of being witches. Do they do that anymore? In this country, some sects of our society killed or tortured people because they were black. Do we do that anymore? We used to hold women to a much different standard than we do today. Things can change. And while I believe that the Palestinian culture has not changed in millennia, believing that change is impossible is a bit too cynical for me. Even that very article points out that women's rights are finally being advocated for, albeit on the slightest scale. Change may be a long way off, but precedent says it can happen.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Fair enought Doc, NEVER say never... but I don't think we'll see it in my lifetime. And the example you gave were fads (for lack of a better term), we're talking about inherant, cultural hatred since the early days of (our) time here.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    MBP if you want something to get insolent about, here it is: http://www.dailyfinance.com/2011/05/19/whys-my-beer-so-expensive-the-forces-behind-a-sudsy-economic-i/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk3%7C64420

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If even beer gets so expensive that only the rich can drink it, the apocalypse will surely be nigh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't think I haven't noticed...the last point, about "sticky prices" is a nice demonstration that there are more elements in a market than just supply and demand.

    Nice find, MB30.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Palestinian culture hasn't existed for millenia. Palestinian culture has existed for approximately 60 years. Arabs maybe, not Palestinians.

    (and no, the Palestinians in the Bible are not the same ones there now)

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I guess I meant Arab's in general. Doing fucked up shit to women in the name of Allah is nothing new.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    That's pretty non-specific to Arab culture. Some of the ways it's manifested there are unique, but that's about it.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I don't know about you guys, but this has been one of the easiest apocalypses I've ever been through. Hell, if this is apocalypse, grad school is HELL.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    The weather was much better than I was expecting.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would just encourage you to read some histories of the region that extend backwards from WWI.
    Much of the current dynamics in the region are far more reflective of the consequences of decolonization versus some inborn religious hatred. Manipulation of the masses for personal political gain is the biggest barrier to peace in the middle east. Why? Because we are as a species very easy to manipulate back into old tribal patterns of behavior. Jewish pogroms weren't the consequence of some spontaneous uprising amongst the common people; they were always initiated and encouraged by power centers in society that needed an "other" to redirect political/economic/social pressures at. People are just usually dumb enough to eat it up, probably because it serves a useful psychological outlet to externalize their frustrations/fears with their own inadequacies and lack of control.

    Take a look at the long and short-term history of the Balkans - Misha Glenny is a good start.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My immediate point is to not conflate the last hundred years of history in the region with some sense of inevitability about what the future looks like. It hasn't and won't always be this way. And like I said, this isn't an issue specific to the current Arab culture. Our eye is drawn to this as because a) Israel and b) Oil are pretty high on our interest list as a society. I'm not negating how ugly the conflict is, but we spend very little time talking and thinking about really brutal ethnic/religious conflicts that occur every day in every corner of the globe, from the Philippines to Indonesia to Darfur. All of them are intractable at the moment but you wouldn't write off any hope of resolution by calling Africans savages. Some of their leaders, on the other hand...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You make very good, intelligent points MBP (as usual), but the basic true fact is that (as an example) some (most) african nations and leaders are still mired in the culture and traditions from the beginning of time. In a cultural vacuum I don

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fair enough.
    THAT was f-cking funny, btw.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Holy shit, this is considered a sport?!?!?!! It's a fucking gang beatdown.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPCYP6YTDAg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This is what happens when your country's "Army" is a "Self-Defense Force."

    Badass.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Hahahaha...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    THIS IS MY NEW FAVORITE SPORT OF ALL TIME. LOOK AT ALL OF THE SIDE BATTLES GOING ON AND THEN DUDES FLYING UP THE BACK OF THE HUMAN WALL. EPIC.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Sick!! I would love to play thins game!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I'm in.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Obviously Judgment Day starts with the death of Macho Man. See you guys on the other side.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Every dude deserves apocalyse sex tonight.

    Women all over the world need to put out.

    If I go down, I'm going down with my o-face.

  • In reply to gwill:

    well said Will.

  • In reply to gwill:

    here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lahqLWssVf4&NR=1&feature=fvwp

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    that was depressing. I will recover though since it is 73 degrees and sunny in Chicago today MB. I'm planning on some Tilapia tacos con aguacate, cilantro y cebolla for deeener and some ice cold Dos Equis with lime and some Patron. whatya know about Patron hater?!?!?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ha! NICE Johnny!

    Stop hattin', blend your own bacon!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Patron is my enemy. "Blackout Juice" is what I call it. Once woke up with a large lady in my bed after a night of patron shots...Woke up and looked over to see an enormous naked ass staring me down as if I owed it money. The thought of it sends shivers down my spine...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    full disclosure...i must not have finished the night before, another side effect of the P-trone...so I woke up with what crown would describe as the most raging of boners...so, i tapped her on the ass with it and finished...

    Have a good weekend guys! do not drink patron!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    did you drink patron last night Coach?

  • In reply to gwill:

    I am going annihilate my woman tonight Kamala style. Right in her gooch.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    dude, I'm crying right now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b243080_randy_macho_man_savage_killed_in_car.html?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-tvnews&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_tvnews

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Snap into a Slim Jim!"

    RIP Randall Mario Poffo

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Macho Man was one of my top 3. My mom used to hate it when my brother and i would run around the house jumping off of tables and couches trying to give each other flying elbows and screaming OOOOHHHH YEAHHHHH!!!!

    RIP mang.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ricky The Dragon Steamboat
    Macho Man
    Dusty Rhodes
    Jimmy Superfly Snuka
    Andre
    Koko B Ware
    Rowdy Piper
    Iron Sheik
    Ultimate Warrior
    Sting

  • In reply to gwill:

    The Koko B Ware call just made my day. I would add Junk Yard Dog, George the Animal Steele and Rick Rude to that list. A friend who lives in upstate said the Iron Shiek and Hacksaw Jim Dugna were tight. He told me they got busted hot boxing a car together several years ago.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    * English Bulldogs
    * The bushwhackers (classic name, and that stupid arm shit they did)
    * Srgt Slaughter
    * Rowdy Roddy

    ....tito santana, you're still a punk bitch!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    BUSHWACKERS WERE ANIMALS! Weren't they represented by Captain Lou Albano? TRhat dude ruled.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8g3OoullXk

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demolition_(professional_wrestling)

    read this and tell me you don't want to be a kid again. this is classic shit. I was in 5th thru 8th grades when Demolition, Legion of Doom, Ultimate Warrior were rocking WWF. We had no worries. we were just trying to be Walter Payton and get handjobs.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Those were the days Waffle. Seeing your first set of tits on your babysitter (what a fuckin pair). Looking at our dad's porn mags and stealing their condoms, pissing in them to make "water" balloons. Scissor-holding your crush and getting the most raging of boners. And staying away from the crazy schizoid doctor that almost burned his house down a decade earlier.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    wow, were you me?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    i was helping my dad clean out his office in highschool and came across and old copy of OUI. I fell on the floor laughing. The feathered hair and massive bushes were appalling...yet appealing on some level.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    One of my friend's dad was dirty (i.e. He had Cherry Magazine.) My held almost blew off the first time I saw inner pink.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    nice.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    My first glimpse of bush was the shower scene on revenge of the nerds. My what a day. And the day I saw my first full contact porn, Jezus-mania was I alive.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I never looked at pie pans the same way again.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Hair pie... sank you!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    btw, can I just say that I fucking love this blog and all the regs.

    ...I'm gonna miss you guys come tomorrow. Save me Jebus!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have a feeling that most of us aren't going anywhere, including you.

    If the rapture comes, does Al Davis start wearing a flaming crown of swords?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Harold Camping just said he re-checked his math and everything looks right. Damn, really hoping he forgot to carry a 1.

    Oh well, T-minus..........

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://royalrumbler.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/koko-b-ware.jpg&imgrefurl=http://royalrumbler.wordpress.com/2010/12/08/entry-12/&usg=__KBBXVNMrAcTcPDOGbPWZ49aANqo=&h=250&w=250&sz=11&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=D7r3JulP8ALg0M:&tbnh=154&tbnw=153&ei=hczWTbTAI8H1gAeih8y_Bw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkoko%2Bb%2Bware%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D754%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd%3Divnso&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=167&sqi=2&page=1&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=112&ty=80

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://royalrumbler.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/koko-b-ware.jpg

  • In reply to gwill:

    my buddy mike and i used to take the tiny kids on our gradeschool football team and just abuse them with ultimate warrior style military presses and then we'd just throw them on the ground. As 8th graders these little 5th graders would line up to be the next victim. They were in full pads so no one got hurt. We would also pull off moves from Axe,Smash and Crush from Demolition (the poor man's Road Warriors).

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Pile driver... just asking for a broken neck and a man-slaughter charge.

  • In reply to gwill:

    I loved wrastling back in those days. I don't know if it was just because I was a kid or if things have changed. I know you could watch big matches during the weekly broadcast and never had to pay a red cent for them, unlike now.

    My favorite was Sgt Slaughter vs the Iron Sheik. With those horned boots the Sheik had. Awesome! The Cold War personified. And while Hulk Hogan has certainly lost his luster, when I was the kid, he was the ultimate bad ass. My dad loved Hacksaw Jim Diggins and even adopted his trademark: Hold the thumb high and scream out "Ohhhhhhhhhh!". And how could you now love Jimmy the Superfly Snuka! He was the original Air-"insert name here".

    When my stepdad told me it was all fake it used to drive me crazy. No way, I would assure him. He'd proceed to predict every momentum switch the rest of the way. Ah the days of innocent youth.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    (...how could you NOT love...)

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I was a big WWF fan - my cousins from downstate IL were huge WCW fans (I think that's what the competing league was called at the time, with Nature Boy, Ted Dibiase, Dusty Rhodes, Arn Anderson, etc)...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oops, it was NWA at the time, later to become the WCW.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My Faves were The Crusher, Mad Dog Vachon, Billy "Superstar" Graham, Dr. X, The Alaskan, Baron Von Raschke. Good Times!

    Always thought Macho Man was fun. Miss Elizabeth was a Babe. Read where she is gone too. RIP.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My wife is at the house in SE BC. If I have Apocalypse sex it's going to be with Rosie. Damn it!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    As long as it aint Rosie ODonnell, you're good.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    YIKES!!!!!! That Rosie is one scary woman. On many levels.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    This is very true. But the folks doing the manipulating in the middle east are primarily (a) rich oil shieks; (b) arms dealers; (c) religious fanactics; and (d) all of the above.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Deal with A and B and C is effectively marginalized.
    Without $ to pay for radio, schools, and tv exposure, a nutjob is just a nutjob, not an imam.
    I'm sure there are good examples of religious authority figures in history who drew popular support through the legitimate establishment of a moral authority by conduct and example. But that's not who I'm talking about.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Correct. Which is why I believe the single most important thing the US government can do to help middle east foreign policy is to eliminate the US dependence on foreign oil.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    No disagreement here.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Actually, depending on who you ask it is a very new position. Prior to this speech, the idea of Israel going to pre-67 borders was espoused by Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan or Bush before him. You have to go all the way back to Carter (who recently wrote a book describing Israeli actions as "apartheid") to see that as the US position. This has always been the Arab position (well... the PC one. Plenty of Arab leaders actually favor the pre-1948 borders).

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Obama says "give back Gaza." Israel says "give back New Mexico."

  • In reply to mottystone:

    +15 to NBIT.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My wife gets all the credit on that one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I guess Obama wasn't crazy about Da Bear Jew t-shirt idea.

  • In reply to gwill:

    Well played, gwill, well played.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My thoughts are as follows (and I put a few tidbits in the other comments as well).

    It has been known for a while that Obama was not a friend to Israel. Really before he was elected this was a known thing. I'm sure Rham Emanuel leaving the cabinet had something to do with him becoming more vocal, but Obama has never been one to favor a strong Israel.

    Obama is currently looking to capitalize on killing Osama bin Laden and do what every US president tries to do in the last year of his term... make peace in the middle east. This plan, like all the others, basically tries to impose arbitrary borders on the Israelis in an effort to appease the Palestinians.

    A few observations:

    1) Land for peace does not work. Israel just gave back Gush Katif and the Palestinians have destroyed whatever development was there and used it as a great place to launch rockets from.
    2) Appeasement does not work. See WWII.
    3) The parts of Israel "annexed" in 1967 never belonged to the Palestinians. They belonged to Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. How come nobody wants Israel to give back the land to those countries?
    4) While we are on the subject. If the plan is to give the Palestinians all the post-1967 land, how come nobody is asking Egypt to give the Sinai Penninsula to the Palestinians. There's oil there... maybe Hamas can take a stab at a legitimate economy.
    5) Obama will do nothing. Israel, thankfully, has a right wing party in power right now and the PM (Bibi) is coming to the US next week where they will frown at each other and do nothing else.
    6) This move probably cost Obama $100 million in campaign dollars. I only hope that the Republicans put up a strong opponent and Obama's far-left shtick marginalizes him to the moderate swing voters that realize this was a stupid move. (And I consider myself a democrat).

    Oh yeah... go Bears.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    In regards to #4, just like the Kurds, the modern Arab states don't have any problem using the Palestinian population as a pressure point with Israel and each other. That's -all- they care about; this really has nothing to do with Islam. Conversely, a Palestinian government that is not dependent on charity and official aid from regional powers to feed its people is also not going to be acting on their behalf.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Or more to the point. No country gives land as a gift to "help the peace process" or for any other reason. Why we expect Israel to be different is simply ridiculous.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Trading territory has been done before and it'll happen again. I hope the outcome benefits the long-term security of the Israeli people.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's high time for The Hammer:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1688255/posts

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Actually, use this link instead

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    This gets harder all the time! :-)

    This is a better version by far as it has the whole thing, including the fabulous introduction (I especially love the Chomsky and Rachel Corrie references). Regrettably, the full context of the thread is lost.

    http://1389blog.com/2010/09/19/nekamas-troll-hammer-where-it-all-began/

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