NFL Draft Final Day Open Thread

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Will Jerry find a diamond in the rough?

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  • first? OL please.

  • In reply to Dustflo:

    I second that motion.

  • In reply to mikev:

    And thirdly I thank you ...

  • In reply to mikev:

    Jeff, did you really have to kick sand in my face by using that picture? Jebus H Christo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Caption for the picture. Jerry is saying (in a Jersey accent) "Hey MB ... seven million a year .... up yer ass ..."

  • In reply to mikev:

    We are at the point in the draft order that Jerry's batting average improves. Here is hoping his diamond is a big offensive lineman shaped one.

    I also want a BIG receiver, but lets spend the money and get a known quantity in free agency.

  • In reply to mikev:

    howzit going Mike? Nice to have you back man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Goin good MB. Thanks for askin. Not really back tho. Never been gone. Still reading evry day. Just not posting. I'm not clever enough to contribute to the daily hilarious banter. And then I'm so furious about this whole CBA situation that I'm trying to keep my head from exploding.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't worry nothing to see here. Everything is under control ...

  • In reply to FAiL:

    suspicious trolling?

  • In reply to FAiL:

    Jerry man, where have you been ? I've got quite a lot to say to you, and it's all hateful. Every 39 year old kid knows that leads to the darkside. But you've done so much to strangle the life out of my beloved Bears, and for so long, that it would be remiss of me not to wish a pox on your family, and that you die slowly, alone, destitute with distended belly in some tin-shack hovel in Africa where you spent the last six months wasting away with the locals.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    what Irish said. FuckO!

  • In reply to FAiL:

    and lets not get crazy with ages of Peppers and Izzy like i saw earlier.

    Peppers just turned 31. Not sit on the couch blog about the Bears eating double cheeseburgers 31 mind you...Julius Fucking Peppers 31. It's different.
    Izzy is 30. Not middle manager for mid size mortgage company out in St. Louis who throws out his back trying to bang standing up 30...but most jacked cartoonish video game 30 for dude that is 6'6 294lbs ever.
    Urlacher is 32 but got an entire year to rest the fuck out of his body which led to him playing like he did in his late 20's. he ended the season with a sprained wrist and no back or leg injuries. He is good to go.
    Briggsy is timeless and you never even know if he is hurt or not because he is too tough to let it bother him. Missed 1 game in 4 or 5 seasons i think. Also survived crashing his Lambo into an underpass on I-94 at the Touhy exit right by my old house.
    Paea is a crazy fucking dude from Tonga who is essentially Olin Kreutz on defense and in the prime of his life. Plus he is from Tonga, so much so that he couldn't even speak english a couple years ago. that is called upside.
    Wootton is getting further and further from that knee surgery and you will see his talent shine more and more. He already retired Favre by slamming his fucking head off the turf. He is the consultant that companies hire to come in and fire guys. He will visit someones team this year to "let go" of some poor qb.
    JENKINS may be a Bear this year. If you don't think that defense had swagger to begin with imagine if a bad ass motherfucker like Jenkins is lining up next to Pep, either one of our samoans, etc.

    My wet dream is a healthy Pisa, Paea and jenkins on this defense this upcoming year.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Some idiot will overpay and live to regret signing Lazy Cullen, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Angelo. There's a good reason why Thompson hasn't resigned him. It's a shame that Paea's knee is shot. Carimi is a great runblocker, too bad 'da boars need a pass protector. Of course, being from Wisconsin,Carimi is a high quality individual with a relentless motor and work ethic.In conclusion, 'da boars won't be able to compete against the Lions, let alone The Pack....

  • In reply to greenbayman:

    Well greenbayman, i'm going to go with money as the reason. You have Pickett, green, rajii, wilson, wynn already and there won't be enough money left for Cullen. Johnny Jolly is a fucking scumbag Packer and he can't play anymore. The reason is money so we'll be more than happy to take him off your hands. It would be ironic if he lined up with Peppers and bad things happened to other qb's as a result. We probably shouldn't take him though because he is obviously no good if he is not on the Packers. Like Brett Favre, what a piece of shit he was and never did anything for the Packers like Rodgers does right???. FAKE FUCKING FANS.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    also, i can't wait for the reality of woodson and driver not being able to make it through the season to set in. it was a nice run and Greenbay had a great year. The tide is turning. You think you don't play the Lions twice too??? this is going to be interesting.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Thanks Johnny. You made me feel a little better there. Now if we just had 4 more O-linemen. Too bad there isn't a draft type thing where we had the option to choose some coming out of college. Oh project safety and QB you say? Uh...sure. That should help Cutler a lot.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    greenbayman, I actually agree with you on the Cullen thing, I've heard the same from some Packer buddies. Disagree on the Paea thing and the Carimi thing, that's just you being a smug Packer troll. Now beat it, we just drafted a QB in the 5th round, let us sulk in peace!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    no more feeding Joe!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MB, I know you didn't think much of our number 2 pick, but I gotta tell you Paea can play. Remember, I live in OryGun and I've sen him play. He'll be awesome replacement for TH. When Julius is coming from the corner, nobody is escaping up the middle on this guy. Plus, he plays like a Chicago Bear. Let Marinelli polish him a bit and he's gonna be one of our favorite defensive players.

  • In reply to mikev:

    I hope so Mike. We could have taken Cannon in the fourth, he's the guy you stick in front of Suh. Who would have taken Paea ahead of us? Was he certain to go before us?

  • In reply to mikev:

    And about that trade. From the Fluffers:

    "The Ravens called in the trade and Angelo told two staffers to make the call for the Bears. But each staffer thought the other did it, and the call was never made, according to a source familiar with the situation.

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell encouraged the Bears to surrender some type of draft compensation but when he declined to order them to do so, Chicago opted not to give the Ravens anything."

    So we either look really incompetent or really shady. Pretty sure either way it doesn't help our future draft day trade prospects with JA at the helm.

    Ok Barnum let's see you belt a few HR's in your wheelhouse today. We need them.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I gotta say, I've been out on all sports since the clock ran out on the NFC Championship.....sad really. I'm a huge Atlanta Braves fan as well as a Bears fan, but can't get into baseball either. Lockout really killed my fanatical spirit. The draft is bringing signs of life, glad we got Carimi and Paea, great picks both. Think that Conti was a stretch, and hate that JA shit the bed on that trade, but all in all if we can get another road grader on the OL like the kid from TCU that apparently has health concerns, or a big WR with hops and hands, I'm happy. I'll take either, just glad that it looks like we'll have Webb and Carimi as bookends for some time coming. Hate that the Lions have Suh and Fairley up the middle of that D.....frightening.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Matty...+1..... on the Suh-Ley show... Detroit is going to tough..

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    oh btw.... thanks JA for getting us all those O-line to protect our Franchise QB...ooopppsss

    THAT'S RIGHT YOU DIDN"T YOU DOUCHE!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey JA I can tell you were to put that thumb of yours..the place you think best at...YOU ASS..you douche!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    They snagged Herman Johnson off the Cardinal practice squad last mid-season. That is our guard. Tice's finger prints were all over that decision.

    We have 8 O-Lineman on our roster that have less than 3 yrs in the league:

    1. Carimi (T - Rookie)
    2. Asiata (G, 1 yr)
    3. Johnson (G, 1 yr)
    4. Louis (G, 2 yrs)
    5. E. Williams (C/G, 1 yr)
    6. C. Williams (?, they better find a home for this kid or he will suffer D. Mannings fate..3 yrs)
    7. Horn (OT, 1 yr)
    8. Webb (OT, 1 yr)

    Guards typically do not blossom until year 3. I'm pretty confident that two of the G's listed above will stick.

    We are a better football team today than we were before the draft started.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Viva...I understand but....heres my .02

    1. Carimi (T - Rookie)-He will step in asap
    2. Asiata (G, 1 yr)-starter
    3. Johnson (G, 1 yr)-will not be with squad
    4. Louis (G, 2 yrs)-will not be with squad
    5. E. Williams (C/G, 1 yr)-starter
    6. C. Williams -projector sheite
    7. Horn (OT, 1 yr)-practice squad
    8. Webb (OT, 1 yr)-starter

    as for better I am the attitude we still need FA Guard a beast..oh btw what about K..he's on his last leg.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Agreed Viva, but we should be better. Boling or Cannon should be on board and some loser ejected. Maybe the safety works out, who knows ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Lobo -

    I think you are wrong about Herman Johnson. The manner in which we acquired him leads me to believe that Tice was very impressed with him. Johnson was drafted last year by the Cardinals and placed on their practice squad. We picked him off their practice squad and signed him to our 53 man roster. I think he is going to stick in a very good way. He is HUGE!

    With repect to K - we need to resign him asap. E. Williams is listed as a C/G. He may be K's replacement in the wings.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    o.k...Viva..... problem I have is Tice was impressed by Johnson, what's his scale..the players we have? If so then he's just above whale shit, because I think that's what we had last year.

    Don't get me wrong Tice "The Miracle Worker" did a HELL OF A JOB!! he made a silk purse out of a sow's ear..I mean really!!! I just want to know the scale they are using.

    As for K yep! SIGN HIS ASS! now!!!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    From the Four Letter Fools:

    The Bears say they're comfortable that Paea's knee, which was "scoped" according to Ruskell, won't pose any future issues. Paea said he's "100 percent and ready to roll." Perhaps even more encouraging for the Bears is how Paea fits the defensive scheme.

    Because of his strength (he bench pressed 225 pounds 49 times at the NFL combine) and quickness (4.9 40-yard dash) Paea possesses the versatility to play both the three-technique and the nose in Chicago's 4-3 defense.

    Paea started 37 of 38 games at Oregon State, racking up 129 tackles, 14 sacks for losses of 100 yards and 30.5 tackles for lost yardage, in addition to five quarterback pressures and nine forced fumbles.

    "This scheme they have, I will be successful knowing I've played this type of scheme before [in college]," Paea said.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    that quote sounds like he is some sort of cyborg terminator from Tonga. If his knee is ok (didn't run or jump at combine) i feel he will be the push up the middle that results in succesful pressure on the edges. One of our problems was that qb's just stepped up and over to deliver passes. We need that push up the middle.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We most certainly do.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    repost:

    Hub Arkush reiterating on the Score this morning that Cullen Jenkins will be a Bear. Paea, Jenkins, Peppers and Izzy ???? with Toe/Melton/Adams rotating???

    Rodgers = Dead

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hub Arkush said he had it from the inside that Cowher was our HC last year.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    the man is still human but point taken.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    thanks Irish, was about to drop that exact same bomb.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ok, I fucking hate to gloat and be right, but who's with me on fucking angelo now?

    Viva?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Never, ever left you brother. Not for a second. I almost feel bad for him. He has to be mentally handicapped. Seriously. Like slow. Like short bus and helmet slow. WTF?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This draft is going the way I thought it would, and I'm not disappointed.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    wow. ok.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I had your back the whole time MB..FUCKSTICK JA!!!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Putting this pick in perspective:

    1. Last year we drafted QB Dan LeFevour in the 6th round. He was destined to be our "developmental" 3rd string QB on the active roster.

    2. Caleb Hanie was injured early in training camp. The Bears needed to find a vet fast. They found Todd Collins.

    3. When Collins was signed, the Bears were forced to place LeFevour on the Practice Squad, because keeping 4 qbs on the active roster is not smart.

    4. LeFevour was snatched off of our practice squad and assigned to the Bengals active roster.

    5. The Bears need a 3rd stringer. They just drafted him.

    6. The good news going into this season is that Hanie has cemented his role as the 2nd stringer, so if he or Cutler has a minor injury we do not have to have major roster surgery.

    This is another need pick. Martz is said to have liked the kid.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    smh

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Todd.Fucking.Collins viva.... todd.fuckiing.collins

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've not seen worse than tc.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You two do not need to tell me how bad Collins was. I wish like hell they would have had more confidence in Hanie, and LeFevour was still on the roster, but Martz and company didn't.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    we need an answer at back up QB viva. Period.

    There are plenty on the market in FA. And whithout some serious FA pickups on OL, Jay ain't going to be in there for long again. We need a bulger type.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sage Rosenfels for me.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    yes! hell yes Irish. Totslly forgot the dude was still out there.

    btw, isn't it like 12 at night for you?

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I'm on my way to Halas Hall right now

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtzk8HNPzHY

  • In reply to Joseph:

    was that viva?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm a Marine (no longer active). That dude is Army.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I was kidding Viva... so you guys don't get to shoot the barrett?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We do. I had a few of my teams employ them. I've seen them stop cars from about 500 meters. Literally put a hole in the engine block. Wicked...

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I would love to shoot one of those bad boys. I've also always wanted to handle an M60. Staning up and moving. Love the sound of it.

    I would love to be able to pick up an MP5 for home protection. Add it to my XD40.

    What's your preference (trying to take my mind off the draft)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Would you feel comfortable holding the MP 5 in your hand if a bad guy was holding a loved one hostage?

    Fire it first. Don't buy it ( for home protection) if you can't hit a point target standing up.

    Can you see in the dark?

    If not, spend your money on that. Seriously.

    http://www.bizrate.com/binoculars-telescopes/764701973.html

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    my goal is not to let the guy get close enough to hold a loved one. I'd feel reasonably comfortable with my XD if it was a do or die shot that I had to make.

    What would you reccomend other than the MP?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    here we go...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    any bets?

    I say LB

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We got our LB...

    J.T. Thomas

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/60606.html

    Even the positive section starts with a negative. I know I'm being totally negative now viva, but damn man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's a one-gap pursuit dude. That's cool.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I may actually like this draft someday. Nice solid boy that Mr. Thomas.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8cSrqjFLl8

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nolan Nawrocki of PFW notes J.T. Thomas has short arms, had the worst vertical leap at Combine, and was projected as a priority FA.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Rod Marinelli likes him.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Audi. Maybe not such a bad draft after all, we'll see. Probably dodged a bullet on Austin.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Agreed.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I like his attitude

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UFAoHD5Zkc&feature=related

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    A couple of Barrett Light Fiftys made most of south Armagh a no fly zone for the SAS and British army during the Eighties. A sleepy little village (with one bar!) called Cullyhanna and Crossamaglen, were above Beirut on top of the SAS no fly zone list at that time. Two Light Fiftys and a couple of Stingers.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Allegedly.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ha!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    J..pick me up and I can help!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    think we just picked a qb

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    A QB? Oh fuck me pink.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    IRISH..YOUR PINK!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Nathan Enderle, welcome, but ....

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    we need O-Line and Angelo drafts a QB from Idaho.

    smh...i'm done.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    MB may have hung himself.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    he will paddle out into the ocean with no intention of coming back. Bodhi style.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If Jerry doesn't bring in at least two o-lineman via FA we're screwed. Why god, why have you forsaken me to be a Bears fan under Angelo's watch. Smite him lord, please smite him.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Almost considered it myself...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    i have a suggestion for the NFL Network. If you want to increase your revenue you should probably have more than the same 2 fucking commericials running for the last 3 days.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Somebody explain commercials to Waffle.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    if the two commercials running are paid for by NFL.com and Play 60 (NFL sponsored) I'm pretty sure there is no profit.

    It's like that one Married with Children episode where Peggy works for Avon cosmetics and spends all of Al's money buying product to get commission checks.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ah Peggy .... oh Peggy ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Ahh young Christina. Yummy.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I wish I could be a fly on the wall when MB hears this pick.
    Tice got his guy in round one. Marinelli got his in round 2. Toub and Lovie got their guy in 3(Lovie can take him under his wing). Now Martz got his guy.
    I feel better about Conte after watching Jerry's press conference. I hope he's better than Afalava.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    you guys think that dude is our answer at FS?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Mike Brown that played inspired football for the Bears was the same Mike Brown that played inspired football for Nebraska.

    In other words, I don't think so.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    me niether viva

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll hold judgement on him until I see him play. He's supposedly a natural FS. I preferred getting a guard.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    uuuhhh, either this is the wrong bio, or this dude used to be a RB!?!?!

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/50029.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=185026

    just above a 50% passer. Avg career TD/INT ratio not that great.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wasn't Jimmy Mac an RB as a kid?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    They showed film on him on TA, he seemed to have nice touch on his passes, likes to audible, used to the pro offense. Big strong guy. Decent, lots of upside.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jerry needs to pull a nice 6'4 WR out of his ass now. Then have a .44 magnum shoved in there and squeeze the trigger.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That would leave a mark.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    NFL's top 10 clutch QBs coming up. I've got Elway, Montana and Jimmy Mac. Mess with that?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jimmy Mac is not on that list. Sorry mang.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The holiday bowl. The Tampa Bay game in 87, the KC game in 87. THe Minnesota game in 85. I never saw Elway or Montana put up at least 12 TDS or whatever in 4 games? Don't remember large deficit comebacks from the boys.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Wow. A QB. Makes a ton of sense since Martz won't even be here next season. Another slap in the face for Hanie.

    I don't guys, but I feel like I was just kicked in the nuts repeatedly.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Carimi was the knickers coming off, but the rest was the nut-kicking thing ...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Wow.. I am so depressed now

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    God damn it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Oh Jebus, no vet QB on the roster, this has definitely been a busted draft my brethern. I liked one pick and went along with another.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Looks good on film though, eh? Mayock likes him. Interesting. With our line we'll be going through QBs fairly sharpish anyway ....

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Jerry offically lost me. A fucking QB????????

    why Jerry?
    why Jerry you fucking cocksucker?
    why Jerry you fucking cocksucking out of your league pussy?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I'm not a fan of the Conte pick, bye the way, was hoping for Brandon Hogan CB.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    From the FLF (or the fluf network as I shall now call them):

    Conte, meanwhile, spent two seasons as a cornerback before moving to safety as a senior. Angelo said the club received a strong recommendation on Conte's behalf from California defensive coordinator Clancey Pendergast, who coached with five NFL teams before moving to the college level.

    Pendergast and Bears defensive coach Jon Hoke are friends, according to Angelo.

    "Jon talked to Clancey [about Conte], and Clancey had nothing but really good things to say," Angelo said. "We really liked this player. He's a pure free safety. He's got size and speed. [It's] very, very hard to find a free safety. That safety position has got great value. We just felt his value was too good to pass up."

    Conte produced 72 tackles last season to go with three pass breakups, an interception and a forced fumble. Conte also blocked a punt and returned it 17 yards for a touchdown. Because of Conte's experience as a cornerback, the Bears are encouraged about his prospects as a cover man at safety, and could see him finding a role on defense as a rookie.

    Conte's inexperience at safety leads the Bears to believe his best ball still hasn't been played.

  • In reply to mikev:

    whassup.............. MVOR!!!!!!!!!!!

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