Offensive Line, Offensive Line, Offensive Line...

There is a belief in the sports world that the NFL season is now 52 weeks long and allows coaches and organizations only the short break between the end of their season and the start of the scouting combine in Indianapolis (the shorter that break, the more successful your season). For the Chicago Bears, I'm hoping these few months don't allow them too much time, too much distance from the central issues of their 2010 campaign: the offensive line.

Yes they need a big target wide receiver but that is seemingly available in the free agent market and will be a crapshoot on draft days.  Yes they need some depth on the defensive line and in the secondary but depth, while important, can't be the focus of an imperfect team on the precipice of great things.  Sure they might pursue the services of a veteran quarterback to backup Jay Cutler, though I don't believe it is anywhere near a priority.  I like Caleb Hanie and believe he should be anointed the backup today.
This team, the 2010 Chicago Bears, has one definitive flaw that must be corrected before they become the 2011 Chicago Bears.  Insanity, as Einstein defined it, is performing the same act repeatedly and expecting different results.  If the Bears rely on Mike Tice's ability to coach-em-up and this profoundly unfortunate feeling that the line improved over the course of the season, they will be dooming themselves to insanity.  

They do not require development of young talent, though J'Marcus Webb is certainly a player with a future in the organization.  They do not require more time to become acquainted with a complicated system, though improvement will surely follow the continuation of the Mad Mike system.  The Bears need better players on the offensive line.  Plain and simple.  Not a single individual, with the exception of Webb, should be considered irreplaceable over the next six months.  Not one.  Not the aging great in the center.  Not the talented Mexican at guard.  Certainly not the left side - which walked an eighteen-game tight rope and spent too much time on the security net.

They need better players and they need as many as possible.  If they're going to be a running team they need better blockers up the gut.  If they're going to pass they need better protection on the outside.  Better.  Now.  Because if they don't acquire better talent on the offensive line, the Bears will be flaunting their defensive line depth as they watch their division rival hoist a second straight Lombardi Trophy.

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  • First you filthy animal.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    What'd he say?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKqCknCOllg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nice one GP.

  • Who you callin filthy? Love to see the team get 2 that can start and play well. Any position is open to upgrade. 2 gimme 2!

  • "this profoundly unfortunate feeling that the line improved over the course of the season"
    But Jeff - they did improve -as a unit- over the course of the season. And it was pretty dramatic. Just look at the numbers. There are individual players on the line who I think should be given walking papers, but there is no doubt in my mind that the O-line in December was much more effective than the O-line in September. I'm not advocating keeping the same guys intact and expecting Cookie to turn into a mauler. But I don't think you can underestimate the importance of growth as a unit for the guys in the trenches. I think it has to be true more than at any other position group.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Duh - "overestimate".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You've got to be kidding. Just because the sacks went down in the second half of the season doesn't mean the line got better. The reason the sacks went down is because MM stopped calling the 7 step drops. Jay still only had 2 seconds to get rid of the ball. The proof was the last game where the line was destroyed again.

    Chicago needs 4 new starting linemen. I say use the whole draft on O linemen.

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    It was a combo of more running plays, fewer 5-7 step drops and improvement. I will be very disappointed if we don't have at least 2 new OL starting next year.

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    I have no confidence in JA's ability to find a decent backup QB after the Todd Collins incident. Let's make Hanie #2 IMMEDIATELY and grab someone along the way after we take care of the OL.

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    As the great Warrior Poet Ice Cube once said "If the day does not require an AK, it is good"

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Mama cooked a breakfast with no hog

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Crown sighting in aisle 3.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    CROWN!!! We thought we lost you man. thought the future x-wife had swallowed you up.

    Hope the new gig is going well man... come back to us.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Take a picture before he flees into the shrubbery...the newly wedded Bears fan.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    i'm starting a clan on PS3 for MW2. Our clan should be DBB. Who's with me? I can really only play at night after about 10pm Central Standard Time. Wife calls me a child if i play before that when i should be
    1. making money
    2. raising my child
    3. making out with her
    4. doing my taxes
    5. doing other adult things

    Let's do it. I do have to warn you though. I'm pretty much useless now because i refuse to shoot the enemy unless i am jumping off of a roof or off of a staircase or some other badass John Woo move. Yes...i'm that guy.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ha Ha. I like how "making out with her" is two behind "making money"! At least it's one above "taxes"...

    I'm looking into buying a PS3 game, and if other DBB members are down for MW2, I'm in. I was debating whether to buy that new Marvel-v-Capcom or the DC Universe game...but I like shooters too.

    There are a few MW2, are there not? "Black Ops" and such? Haven't looked to into it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'll trade in Black Ops this weekend - I'd be down.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny. Once I get my cave set up I am soooooo down.

    I think we should check this out too: http://www.uncrate.com/men/entertainment/games/killzone-3/

    Oh, and finally saw Jackass3 last night. Besides all the disgusting penis/ass/poo stuff, I was fucking rolling. So juvenile, yet so damn funny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That looks phe-nom-enal.
    When I went to see Jackass 3 with my boys, the sweat gag nearly had them projectile vomiting their popcorn.
    The portapotty almost got me.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Man they are a disgusting bunch mbp. no way in hell I take my kids to see those guys.

    That's not a comment on your parenting style at all my man, I just think they're almost too disgusting for grown ups, and I highly doubt my kids are going to need any additional dumb ideas/motivation to get themselves into trouble/the ER.

    The train set one was the most disgusting to me... just really nasty. the one that has me laughing the hardest was hi five and all the rockey ones.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh, no - I mean my "boys", my pals, my "homeslices". I only have the one daughter.

    The train set did nearly make me chuck. I laughed my ass off though.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    First.. thank you Jeff. I thought i was towing the obvious line since last year on this (cept for lobo... hey, where is lobo)

    MBP, I love ya maaaan, but you're smoking crack on this one. The only thing we'll get with the current line is 50+ sacks and a critically injured franchize.

    We need a total oline rehaul or we're fuck-ed... again.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I continue to hope that OL is draft rounds 1 and 2.

    It won't be, we'll fall for a CB or something - because this is Lovie and Lovie hangs his hat on D, it's his rep and he intends to keep it that way for the day he leaves the Bears - so we'll go D in 1 or 2 - but I wish we wouldn't.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yep. brutal GP.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I didn't make that argument - I did say, "there are individual players on the line who I think should be given walking papers".
    I'd be happy to draft Guard/Center in one of the first two rounds. I think we're going to be out of the running for first round OL talent by the time we pick; being stubborn and picking a 2nd-3rd round guy just to be picking the position wouldn't be prudent.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    agree with that 100% MBP.

    And I will hate to do it, but I will have to take you to task once we all hook up in FPS cyberspace for your insolence. Boo Yah!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Hope that didn't sound cranky - darling daughter woke up at 12:30 last night, singing the list of her favorite things "salad and sushi and beaux beaux dogs and milk and..." - you get the picture.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh, yeah... I get it loud and clear all the time over here.

    Yes, it did. Hence my take you to task comment. It's ok, I shall exact my vengence in cyber-blood.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have no doubt I will get pwned on any PS3 fps.
    I really need to go get a keyboard/mouse conversion kit.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My favorite among the many outstanding Einstein quotes-

    "He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

    No offense to any veterans intended. Seriously.

    On the other hand, playing war and watching movies about war (Rambo...) are some of my favorite activities. For this reason I am intensely jealous of you gamers and your plan for DBB war room. Sounds like a blast.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Speaking of which, I watched a documentary called Iraq's Secret War Files last night, and have never been more ashamed that I am an American. I hate that we've let our media and politicians dictate the things we know about our illegal occupation of Iraq. To say nothing of Afghanistan. If this war had the coverage that Viet Nam had, we would all be violently opposed and we would be doing more about it. I wish there was something I could do. I really do. I feel low. Really really low.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Incidentally, I am proud to be an American. I just feel culpable. As a citizen is my right to demand the truth. All of our rights. Moreover, it is our responsibility. We ARE culpable. Every last one of us.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    damn doc.... and i was starting to feel better about my tough day. sheesh.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Doc, sometimes ya just leave me speechless.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Well, I wonder if we will actually pick O-line talent that can handle the speed rushers and OLBs. Let's face it, we will have to focus all our picks on beating the G-dam friggin Fudge Pack and their defensive schemes. I don't like to rehash all the same old same old bs, but how many QBs out there would have survived the onslaught of sacks that Cutler did? Not many. Our D is top 10, our O is bottom 5. O-line talent and a Beast WR that can actually get open and fight for the pill against the press man coverage of the F Pack. The crap written about prioritizing our D line is bull. Like my hillbilly buddy says: that shit don't flush. Stout out.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    good post guinny.

    BUT, i have to throw a flag on the play. as a newbie, you simply can't give yourself your own nickname.

    10 yards, replay the down.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like the moxie of the newbie. Reminds me of cutler. Our newbie got us one game from the big dance

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    At least he didn't self-gloss as GP.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think we need the next installment of extranormal GP. Please deliver sir!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good one, touche'. Or as they say in PackerLand douche'.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    The media give us what gets eyeballs and $. Your nightly newscasters used to have balls but the ones that do now, they are just one choice out of 30 channels with yucksters and shysters.

    I feel ya, Doc, but we are what we are. And, the last thing I'll say about this tonight, is that there are a lot of talented, dedicated, and good-hearted men and women putting their literal blood, sweat and tears into turning those countries around every day. The fact that there are, conversely, a lot of people in this world, both in-country and at-home, that actively undermine them for profit or politics disturbs me profoundly. But in every war, much less every walk of life, there are sociopaths among us.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The sociopaths wear suits and make policy. But the apathy of the people cannot be excused.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Nope.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    The documentary was by? Maybe a biased view? Don't believe everything you watch Doc.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Your a smart guy, like I really needed to say that?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I don't beleive everything I hear. There is truth to all sides. It's the truth's on the dark side of this war that tend to not get acknowledged. I'd rather err on the side of cynicism when it comes to what the government and major news outlets feed us.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Maybe we can go get Cullen Jenkins for Butter's old spot. He's on the market.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Cullen Jenkins is a great move or Johnny Jolly. We'd have to put a padlock on the medicine cabinet though. Jenkins is my pick.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Talk about a feel-good story and a guy to root for, NFL prospect Mark Herzlich

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d81eb0a13/article/cancer-survivor-herzlich-is-feelgood-story-in-troubling-times?module=HP_cp2

    He is projected to go in the third or later, and would be very tempting, esp as Urlach and Briggs gray. Before the cancer, he was projected to be a top 5 draft prospect.

    "He needs to recapture most, if not all, of what he was as a player when he was the 2008 ACC Defensive Player of the Year after registering 110 tackles (13 for loss), six interceptions (two he returned for touchdowns), three sacks, two forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries.

    That won't be easy. Herzlich missed all of the 2009 season as he underwent treatment and recovered from the surgical insertion of the rod in his leg. He played in 2010, and although he was solid (ranking third on the team with 65 tackles, sharing the lead with a pair of forced fumbles and finishing second with four interceptions), he wasn't nearly as dominant as he had been in '08 -- or even '07, for that matter."

    That's one "project" guy I'll be rooting for.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hey FQ, Stop Hatin', blend your own bacon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTIYn8NP87Y

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    they don't fuck around. That is exactly how my lunatic friends (and me before married) get ready for weekends/tailgating...except substitute Jameson for bacon and Red Bull Vodka for beef tenderloin.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I didn't think they could top the bacon cup; I stand corrected.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Tick Tock....Tick Tock.....Tick Tock....hoping no news is good news until an extension is announced this afternoon.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yup, it's sloooowwww. This time of year is football slow, but now no trades or contract extensions due to the possible lockout have made it esp slow.

    I even started paying more attention to basketball!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    lol this guy

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Offensive Line, Offensive Line,Offensive Line..."

    Couldn't agree more, Couldn't agree more, Couldn't agree more...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jenkins gets my vote. 7 sacks in 11 games last year. Just hve to keep him healthy.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I recommend "The New Empire of Debt". Nothing surprises me after considering the arrogance of empire.

    And our hubris is especially curious when one realizes how much of our lofty standard of living has been paid for by peasants in foreign lands.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Good post Doc. I got a lot more to say, but this ain't the right forum.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We don't have any video games at our house, so I won't be a clan member.

    Don't want my son to turn out like, well, you know......

    lol.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I get at ya on that but Im on that XBOX. Me and Artoo being slaying fools

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Artoo beats me in Madden 24-0. He played with the Bears and I took the Lions. Geez if you think they are bad in real life, you aint seen shit on the Video Game. COuldnt Catch shit, and My D was getting burned by Knox. Next game Artoo Im rolling with AN ACTUAL FOOTBALL TEAM.. lol

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ha Ha. If it were Tecmo Bowl, you could just run all over him with Sweetness or Bo Jackson!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    If we can have our choice of the top OT in the draft, I would be willing to deal Manning to Houston for a straight up trade of first round picks. That puts us ahead of Detroit and Minny and gets a lot of value for someone who plays two positions we're pretty set at (strong safety and returner). The trade does thin out the DBs though... so I wouldn't be willing to trade for less value than that.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    can't trade Gump just to move up in the draft for the exact reason you mention. No way in fuck do i want Steltz or Bullocks back there if someone goes down. That is a guaranteed cluster bang. Steltz will paralyze one of our own if given the chance.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    First to say there goes football: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/11/union-labor/index.html

    Fuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fuck all of these fucking fucks. I am all for the players but even hearing a soundbite of Smith made me want to punch him. I can't believe all of these fucks couldn't get their fucking act together on both sides. The fans are the ones that get fucked the most. I'm fucking disappointed and i think we should all call our owners at Halas Hall and voice our displeasure. I fucking called Universal when Van Helsing was made so i have no fucking problem calling and screaming at some fuckwad at Halas Hall...even though i know he didn't do anything wrong. Maybe they'll give the message to the higher ups. I'm really disappointed. Not crying disappointed but i feel slighted and ignored as a fan. Middle ground should have been so easy to achieve in this situation.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    fuck.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Well guys, the NFLPA filed for de-certification in Federal Court today.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81eb6e46/article/union-decertifies-after-failing-to-reach-labor-deal-with-league

    That would be the undersea earthquake, now we just head to high ground and wait for the tsunami to hit in the form of a large, some might call it Supreme, anti-trust court case to go down.

    And that - will move at lawyer speed.

    Which means - and I guess I would be interested to hear Hub on his next Score broadcast on the subject if he doesn't do a PFW colummn - there is almost no way we get a 2011 season.

    Somebody tell Cutler to put his Polo back on and head back to Nordstrom's to pick Kristin out a sexy teddy, cause they can spend the whole summer in Maui fucking until she's sick of seeing his double chin between her legs. Camp is a no-go.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, I thought it was Johnny that stated thaey'd be done if there was any shortage to the season but he informed me it was you. I though it was an over-reaction at the time but the more I think about it the more I agree whole-heartedly. The lone denominator that's constantly left out of these negotiations is the fans. very dissapointing.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm with you GP, I side with the players, and may even chuck the NFL like I did MLB 20 years ago.

    The owners don't want to disclose all their financials for the 32 teams, why not? They put some side money away 2 years ago, a few billion, in case of a lock out - why?

    It's like being married - most married couples share a bank account. It's called transparency and trust. If your wife had a secret account, wouldn't you be a bit curious what the hell is going on? "No, no honey, you just gotta trust me." Unless she's Mafia Mob Boss, none of us would put up with that shit. Why should the players expect any less of the owners?

    The owners are basically saying, "No, no, children. Bills are for daddies and mommies. Here's your allowance, now go away." It's insulting.

    And for all you Republicans, I echo good advice:

    "Trust but verify."

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Married to a hot Italian anti-snooki with mob ties. I think that was an Eddie Murphy or Nick Nolte movie, "Risky Trim", or something like that...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    It all comes down to Judge Doty.

    We need a song.

    "Doty, Doty, Doty - get your adverbs here!"

    No. Need a better tune....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Judge Doty is the reason why there's free agency now (uh, no Cutler or Peppers or future Olinman for us if it were up to the owners).

    Unfortunately, right now I think it's up to Judge Shultz, though it may swing back to Lotty-Doty-We-need to party - and we won't bother nobody...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Soooooo...they walked away from this?

    "It said the offer included splitting the difference in the dispute over how much money owners should be given off the top of the league's revenues. Under the expiring CBA, the owners immediately got about $1 billion before dividing the remainder with the players; the owners originally were asking to roughly double that by getting an additional $1 billion up front.

    Also in the NFL's offer, according to the league:

    -- Maintaining the 16 regular-season games and four preseason games for at least two years, with any changes negotiable.

    -- Instituting a rookie wage scale through which money saved would be paid to veterans and retired players.

    -- Creating new year-round health and safety rules.

    -- Establishing a fund for retired players, with $82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years.

    -- Financial disclosure of audited league and club profitability information that is not even shared with the NFL clubs. That was proposed by the NFL this week, and rejected by the union, which began insisting in May 2009 for a complete look at the books of all 32 clubs."

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    i just think that there was an opportunity for the two sides to make this fair AND profitable for everyone and in typical fashion, pride got in the way.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I can't believe that offer wasn't enough for the NFLPA to go, "OK, not happy with the disclosure offer yet. But let's talk some more."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "double chin between her legs..."!?! Hilarious!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Oh fucking calm the fuck down. It won't fucking last. They love the fucking money too fucking much.

    whew!! Haven't dropped that many f-bombs since the NFC Championship game.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    that was funny. but the scary part is that now it's about money and perceived weakness. that is a dangerous combination.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I know.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We have a "Dinger" sighting! Paul Edinger is the kicker for the AFL Pittsburgh expansion team. He just nailed a 35 yarder (AFL goalposts are really, really, really narrow) as time expired to send the game against Philly into OT.
    Good for Dinger. He did change his weird ass routine at some point though. No more facing away from the posts.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And a guy (not the guy) named Mike Brown just made a pick six in OT, winning the game for Philly.

    Somebody is trying to tell me something. I need to find an AFL team to root for.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Hey, Robbie's younger brother is the kicker for the Rush.
    It'll almost be like watching the Bears!
    http://www.arenarush.com/team/roster/

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    MBP, thanks for the perfect transition, what great timing.

    SPEEEEAKING OF SIGHTINGS....

    Ok, ok

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hahahahahahaha...that's awesome!
    He was who you thought he was.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    exactly MBP... man, I wish I had given him the "Bear Down!"

    Light when your gf dumps you and it's only on the car ride home you think, 'damn, I should have told her that I balled her sister and mother at once that time she was out of town"

    Oh well.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    like

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    (not a true story) not mine at least

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    priceless

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That IS priceless. Fuck yeah, mang.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=lc-nfluncertainty031111

    pride...to a fault.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey fellas!! I'm here in Chicago and it's bad ass! Took the tour of Soldier Field today and it was the best $15 I've ever spent... Seriously never in my life have I gotten so much joy for $15 and that includes going to Amsterdam! Ill post pics soon. Sitting at Gino's East waiting on a pie now.

    Ps Jeff - great post.... This is exactly what every rational, logical fan is screaming right now. Which means if history is any indication the Bears won't do it.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    One question, Sac. Why would you choose the offseason to visit the holy land?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    and why would you choose Gino's East? Sac, i'll send you some Lou Malnatis via fed ex when you get home. Have a great time mang. lot's of booze zombies lumbering around and driving today so be careful walking downtown.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Enjoy that pizza, Sac! Lou's is good, but I am a Gino's woman myself.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i wish we all had the will to follow through with a boycott of the NFL. I don't know if i could but i'm so disgusted right now that if we miss 1 fucking day of football I'm going to try to be done with them. 19 fucking 80 mother fucking 7. Smith should be fucking shot for sucking so badly at his job and Goodell should give back every fucking penny of his salary for letting it get to this point. You fucking cocksucking faggots. I wish we had a voice. The only voice is our pocket books. If we miss 2011 it is our DUTY to bankrupt that fucking league.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Seriously, 1 game missed = me and my sons being done with the NFL. I'll go watch the Chicago Slaughter and the Rush in the arena leagues before I watch this monopolized bullshit again. If enough of us boycott this shit and complain it will have an impact.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "presumably because the owners have refused to turn over team-by-team financial information the union has requested."

    Only a person with something to hide for nefarious reasons, say, greed, would not turn over their financials to make a deal.

    Owners are just greedy, and when the union decertifies, and the judges in court reveal all the BILLIONS the owners are profiting and keeping away from player pensions and healthcare, the more all these owners are going to be tarred and feathered.

    Owners, do youselves a favor now - give the NFLPA what they want, and still be viewed as reasonable and even likable billionaires. Don't, and you guys will be forever linked with the Wallstreet fatcats.

    It's up to you.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    '10 or '11?
    What's your PS3 tag?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Sticking to the theme...

    From The Sun-Times

    "Given the depth at defensive tackle in the 2011 draft, however, it might make more sense for the Bears to take an offensive lineman first, according to Mel Kiper Jr.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I'm in a corridor, got a shotgun, pull the trigger, bodies fall harder.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    My other favorite Einstein quote-

    "Do not worry about your problems with mathematics, I assure you mine are far greater."

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    My fave:

    "In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"

    Words for JA to live by.

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers?tabIndex=1#year=2011&workout=BENCH_PRESS&position=DL

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    don't encourage Jerry 85!

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stephen-paea?id=2495210

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    You're right - ha ha. I was kidding. Thanks for catching me.
    You'd make a shitty GM.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It was combination of altered offensive philosophy and improved performance as a unit. No shit on the 3 step drops; are you new here?

  • In reply to FranklinGray:

    Yup. But I've been saying it for months.

  • Improved and allowed 56 sacks. FIFTY-SIX-BONE-CRUSHING-SACKS. One of those 56 may have prevented us from going to the SB.

    We need FOUR new o-lineman, one way or another. I would like two from FA, and two from the draft, but let's not be sentimental about it. Garza and Olin are back-ups at this stage. Webb still is learning the position, Williams in all likely hood is a bust, and Omiyale is wildly inconsistent.

    This should be the new Oline.

    Clabo - Dahl - Olin - (Ijalana or Wisniewski) - Webb/(Camiri or Sherrod).

    If we could get Pouncey or Constanzo, even better, but I doubt they'll be around by the time we get on the board and Jerry never trades up. Although if there's a new rookie pay scale, maybe he will buck the trend this year.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    That would be ideal 85 but the chances of getting 2 FA lineman this year might be very difficult to achieve. I'm still not sold on Webb either. He got burned quite a bit and at times looked like a human turnstile. Can he grow to be good? Maybe, but I hate having to hold on to "he could be good". I say this every year, but this is the most important off-season I can remember as a Bear fan. One game away from the super bowl and staring at a Green Bay team that could be very good for quite awhile.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    I'm with you on Webb. He is huge, but smaller athletic guys seem to go right around him, just like Williams. Webb has the built in excuse that he's much newer to the position than Williams, but they may both end up busts, and we have to prepare for that NOW, not in the 2014 draft.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Any rookie the Bears start next year on o-line is going to have growing pains, minus some top stud. I like Webb's potential because as much as he was out of position on pass plays, he was still able to recover most of the time due to his length. He's still very raw. He needs to become a much better run blocker as well.

  • Fav Einstein quote: "imagination is greater than knowledge."

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Yes, good correction. Though because of Einstein, we now have the possibility of alternate universes, and I'm sure I got it right in one of those lol

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    :-) I suppose the possibility of alternate universes was always there, but Einstein was the first scientist to point it out though one could argue easily that mystics have done so for a looong time. Avalon, heaven, nirvana, etc., etc. etc.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    He's one of the firsts with the math to prove alternate universes plausible, methinks.

    It's amazing now adays what math implies.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Mel Lego-Head Kiper now has us picking LT Solder at #29

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicagobears/post/_/id/4670063/sort/oldest/kiper-likes-solder-to-bears-at-no-29

    He seems to fit the part, but don't we already two huge "athletic" tackles in Webb and Williams? I'm not entirely sold on Solder.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    They aren't very effective against prototypical 3-4 OLBs.
    My theory, and a certain guy named Pat Kirwan, is that the offensive tackles should be rotated to match the defensive scheme. It's nonsensical to me to insist that the same guy who can play your 4-3 bullrusher is going to be effective against the crazed speed guys rushing from OLB.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yeah, I agree. That's why I'm leaning more to Camiri at Tackle. He may not be 6'8 with a 36 inch arm span, but against the 3-4 linebackers, you don't need to be. Plus, Camiri has started 2 more years then Solder and no one questions his strength.

    But Camiri is shooting up the draft boards, so we may be looking at an "upside" (project) guy like Solder. I just think we have enough of those.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    You just can't be "sold" on any one of them. Lets face it no matter what, it is a crapshoot. Look at Tony Mandarich, cant miss tackle second player taken in that draft. Bust, ended up not playing left tackle. Robert Gallery, left tackle at Iowa, second player taken in his draft. Finally ended up playing guard for the raiders. You can only go by how they played in college and their combine stats, after that a crapshoot. Lets just hope we dont throw craps on our first pick.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Another guy with strength problems to line up next to cream puff Williams.

    Great.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    cookie

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Reminds me of the guard they had at Nebraska in the 90's....best name ever.

    Cookie Belcher.

    Nom nom nom.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Very true Murph - I know it's tough selecting draft picks, but that's why they get paid the big bucks. Sometimes I think a somewhat knowledgable fan can do the same job as Jerry, and that's not a good sign. You should read the Pack blog - in God and Thompson they trust.

    I wish I could say the same about our GM.

    I never liked Gallery. A lot of the scouts claimed his arms were too short and that he would eventually move to the inside, and I agreed. In a sidenote, I think he's an FA...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    The last two years the Packers blogs have been ripping Thompson a new asshole, minus RoidMan.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Grass is always greener Corm.

    I would shut my fat, disgusting, room-temp IQ pie hole and enjoy the glow if I was a fat disgusting room-temp IQ packer fan.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Here is a pretty objective analysis of our Oline from late Feb.

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/02/25/bears-positional-analysis-offensive-linemen

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Reason enough to keep the Omlette as backup LT. He's mister versatile.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Kiper Mock draft 2 has us taking Aaron Williams, the CB from Texas.

    I guess Old Sauce is really unhappy with little Timmy Jennings.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Amen to your post Jeff. Amen.

    Even though you may think I'm one of those non-thinking fans calling into the sports channels calling for Lovie's head. (Which I'm not BTW though I would take his head gladly and trade it in for a new Head Coach)

    I do agree with you more than not. If the Bears ignore our O-line and as you say, go down the insanity road, it will truely break my Bear-Luvin heart.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
    -Albert Einstein

  • Suh has singlehandedly introduced a Detroit fan base to Nebraska.

    That's even more difficult than it sounds.

    I wish Pouncey was going to fall to us. But I just see no way it happens.

  • That's great news.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I wholeheartedly agree - there are ways for the NFL to expand its tv revenue -easily- without lengthening the season.
    Simply expanding onto Friday nights, by itself, TV revenue would take a 10% leap over the long haul (I assume first year ratings would be higher than average, lower than average over a 10 year span).

  • Hee hee

  • I think I've got a couple of free throws coming. That was a personal foul.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    HA!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Suh is right. We need Pouncey and have Kreutz spend the year working him into his old job. How can we get him.... sigh

  • Can't remember who it was, may have even been you johnny but if these greedy bitches even miss one game I'm done with this shit. These pieces of shit(both sides) can't see that the money contributors are being hurt by this more than anyone I say fuck them, I'm done. I can find something else to watch and dammit I'm serious, I'll find something else to watch. I love football, but I played enough of it where i could live without as much as it would suck. I'm so damn tired of these rich bitches. One game missed = me being done.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    i think it was GP and i thought it was more frustration from him at the time but the more i think about the audacity of both sides not to come to some sort of agreement the more angry i got. Then the extensions really made me believe that both sides wanted this. Well that was bullshit. I'm fucking done if this season is ruined. The team is in a great position to do great things and this bullshit goes down? FUCKING FUCK. These fucking idiots managed to ruin the greatest game on the planet even though it is the most profitable league in the history of man. HOLY FUCK does it take a bunch of assholes to accomplish that. The owners are a bunch of fuckwads and the player rep Smith makes my fucking skin crawl when i hear him talk. I'm so mad right now.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm with you. Never have I agreed with the f-bomb being dropped more. I think we need a DBB intervention with these greedy fucks. I was cautiously optomistic with the extension but now I'm seeing the true motive of both sides. Smith and his creepy pimp hat makes me want to throw up. I'm disgusted.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    fuuuuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB,couldn't have said it better,

  • In reply to jbenton:

    thankds JAB. Just doing my part. you and Johnny are doing fine and don't need much help today.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I have a good life, great wife, beautiful little girl, family etc but I really use football as a nice escape from the stresses of daily life. I love the game and i love the players that play it. I love the Bears and the guys that give everything all year to do it. If we miss time and these two sides don't make it right I really hope that I am strong enough to do the right thing...and that is to boycott the league for enough time that it hurts the NFL. These guys have to realize that we pay their salaries and we keep these stadiums full and we create all of the jobs that the NFL has. Not once did I see a representative from the PEOPLE at one of these meetings. I wish there was a 3rd party there reminding both sides that as they try to devise a way to divide up 9 BILLION DOLLARS AMONGST A HANDFULL OF PEOPLE that it is actually OUR 9 BILLION DOLLARS. We have been locked out of the process because both sides know that we will most likely fold and give in only to hand over hard earned money to them as if nothing happened. Money that was earned by us that kept us at work and away from our families. This is a sad day for everyone that loves football. The fans.
    I'm so disheartened i can't even swear because it wouldn't cheapen my expression of hurt.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny, well said. Maybe if the whole NFL fanbase sent emails stating this passion it would make a difference but I'm ralizing they don't give a rats ass about us fans-the consumer and only care about themselves-the product. Bad business model in my opinion.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    9 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Pretty fucking staggering isn't it?
    Let's take it away.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Again, I've been on the NFLPA side through most of this...but when I was listening to one of the meathead players that Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan were roasting today on Sirius NFL, I started wondering: if you don't even know that a decertification means that your union is done as a legal entity, should you really be pontificating on the second biggest media stage for the league? Fucking morons. And Tim Ryan about ripped the kid's balls off for suggesting that he had gotten a bad deal under the current CBA. Timmy is kind of a douche sometimes but he is for real. This is just stupid. Plain simple stupid.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    As I am on the players side, I have said that - and I repeat this now - that if the owners lock out, then I am done.

    Even THOUGH the NFLPA disbanded, the players CAN SHOW UP AND PLAY under the existing contracts. Agents can extend deals, and we all just pretend it is 2010 again until the courts work it out.

    But that will erode the owners position so badly with the court that they won't do it. They will lock the players out - DESPITE the players wanting to play - just under the existing system.

    So yes, I am probably done with the NFL if there is a lockout and no football in 2011. After all, the league will be irrevocably damaged, we aren't all going to sit here for 2 years and swap bacon and pork product recipes - so fuck it - time to head back to the Camaro forums and swap tales of tuning a 396's carb.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    sad. this is one of few places I can come and talk smack with guys like me.

    ...and I like bacon.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, here's to your bacon love.
    Http://specials.msn.com/A-list/lifestyle/bacon-mania.aspx?cp-documentid=27896864

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Fucked up thing is that I actually don't eat much bacon... or other fatty shit. I've been eating well most of my life JAB. I do looooove me some lamb chops though.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i think i just found a way to end child hunger in America. If we took all the money that we spend on the NFL and invested it in some sort of laddered bond fund the interest from 5 or 6 billion would be enough to increase the availability of food and resources for the children that are at high risk throughout the country. Then we could hire some guy or consortium of guys to manage the program and he/they could end up stealing hundreds of millions of dollars over several years in an elaborate skimming operation. Oh well, so much for that idea.

    This idea could also be used to pay our property taxes, subsidize education costs, etc. It sounds kind of hippie-esque but it takes the good parts of the free market (dividends and interest) and combines it with a noble social endeavor. Oh, by the way. Fuck you owners and D. Smith.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The skimming would be worth it, would it not.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Us hippies aren't all bad.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    exactly

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i'm going to watch a ton of highschool and college football this year. I'll be at the local highschools so much they'll think i'm a pedophile

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Good Call.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll be buying my UFL season tickets bright and early.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Da Usta Be Bears Blog"?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Call me crazy, but here's what I think:

    I say we call, write, and badger these idiots (both sides) as much as we can. They need to hear from the fans - you know, the people who pay for the entire enterprise - and they need to hear it loud and clear. Idle threats are worthless. If you mean it, let them know.

    My prediction is that they have something in place by the draft.

  • seems like Smith had this planned. cute. fuckem all

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Yep. I've been on the side of the NFLPA.

    But I am just pissed now.

  • all i got from that was:

    and yadda yadda yadda...they all act like pussies and shove a huge pringles can in the ass of the fan who pays for EVERYTHING.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    And the term "writ of certiorari".

    Jesus.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i had to Wikipedia that. may apply more to this article than my pussy/pringles can reference. It also may be the plot of a recent Law and Order:SVU but i'm not sure.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Yeah, I kinda expected this to be honest. Still, we should blow off some steam.

    I guess I could find something more "productive" to do than watch football, like go to church, rob banks, and bang chicks, in that order lol

  • I want to rip your throat out.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    PLease note that this was in response to spam at the top of the thread, which was deleted, moving my response down the thread with the additional effect of making me look mentally unbalanced. More. More mentally unbalanced.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Onion Sportsdome nailed it. I will try and find the clip...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This is awesome.

    http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/video/nflpa-and-owners-reach-agreement-that-would-only-h,19676/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "doubling concession stand prices to pay for renovations to owners homes". i love the Onion.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Major league head stomping. Cleaver ball. Does Chicago have a franchise? If so, I'm all in.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    gun boxing

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Only NFC West teams on MNF and Black Eyed Peas perform every halftime.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd say we're in need of more than a little depth on defensive line there Jeff ... we need a guy to do the job a 70% Tommie Harris did. The draft is D-line heavy, which means we need to pick the cream of the crop in round one. We're not going to miss out on a Jimbo Covert here if we draft a DT, but we might miss out on a Steve McMichael if we draft a guard. It's either a DT or a Kreutz/Urlacher replacement. Anything else is bullshit.

  • Sd, and I was just thinking man the guys who live in the city must think i'm crazy to drive that far. Keep your snow shoes on and your chin up.

    Maybe when I retire SD, maybe when I retire.

  • Right there with ya. They've got a long time to settle it before games are missed so this can't be too surprising.

    After the strike in '78 I've never put any money directly into their pockets since. I used to be able to buy the games up here by the game ($10) on cable. If they were the national game it was free. Used to buy about 5-6/year. Now you have to buy the whole pkg so I go to sports bars. Other than that, no merch at all. Nothing. I got a free Bears cap in a beer giveaway but that's it.

    I think they'll settle before games are missed.

  • Great story dude! Just awesome

  • The NFL and players and operating under the very legitimate assumption that we fans will not go away. I say we call their bluff. I've just followed Sdwat's lead and canceled my auto renew for the NFL Sunday Ticket. I asked the operator who assisted me if the NFL will get the statistics on how many people have done this, and she said it will most certainly be reflected. Since I can't cancel the NFL network without cancelling several other channels which I want, I won't be doing that. But since it's digital, they'll know that I've stopped watching. We have to speak out with our money. For those of you who do subscribe to NFL sunday ticket, it's easy to re-sign up if they ever get this fixed. But canceling now might send a strong message.

    Another idea I had is organizing something with Facebook. I'm not a facebooker, so I can't do this myself, but my wife is, so I'll ask her to join. Somebody should start a facebook NFL boycott group. Surely, once thousands of fans join the group, the message will eventually get out. We must be resolute and not buy any NFL products. If any of you are season ticket holders, maybe you would consider giving up your seat license. This is a move I'm not sure I would be strong enough to make if I had season tickets, but maybe some of you are. The message will get out, if we speak with our money. Or lack thereof.

    Oh, and sorry for calling you Shirley.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    i have never bought a jersey but i was going to buy a Cutler jersey to show my solidarity for the gunslinger but now i'm not buying shit and i'm not going to any games and i told the NFL ticket people that i'm not interested anymore. I would get involved in the facebook thing. we need to spend not one penny until they resolve this shit. if they fuck up my 2011 season i will do what it takes to hit them where it hurts.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I would also be interested in the Facebook thing and could get several other non-Bear fans too as well I believe. I'll try to look into it myself if I can get some free time.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    *to

    I'll grammar nazi myself.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Thanks to Johnny for his Soros-like "laddered bond fund" notion to end child hunger and Brad Pitt at bay. Reads like politics to me.

    Red Cliff

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Where ya been, Jack? Da Blog has been missing your randomness.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Agreed!

  • In reply to kenbill:

    it was a joke you fag

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    i'm out of here. Lacan, you have officially annoyed me more than any packer troll or even the racist jersey flyer. wake me when the season starts.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    C'mon Waffle - it was funny...besides, it could be 2012 before we wake you up. And too much sleep is just unhealthy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Johnny is gonna go hang with Trac until this strike stuff gets settled.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    So, Goodell is slashing his pay to $1 a year until there's a new CBA.

    Guess he'll just have to squeak by on the $10 Million per annum he was making since he was namemed commish.

    What a guy!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Did you all get your heartfelt letter from Roger?

    Dear NFL Fan,

    When I wrote to you last on behalf of the NFL, we promised you that we would work tirelessly to find a collectively bargained solution to our differences with the players' union. Subsequent to that letter to you, we agreed that the fastest way to a fair agreement was for everyone to work together through a mediation process. For the last three weeks I have personally attended every session of mediation, which is a process our clubs sincerely believe in.

    Unfortunately, I have to tell you that earlier today the players' union walked away from mediation and collective bargaining and has initiated litigation against the clubs. In an effort to get a fair agreement now, our clubs offered a deal today that was, among other things, designed to have no adverse financial impact on veteran players in the early years, and would have met the players

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Woke up surly. Been there.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm with Johnny on this one.

    jack, love you man... but lay off the totally unprovoked attacks. they're not necessary and pretty unfair.

    We all love your strikes, just keep them focused towards the trolls. Would superman betray one of the other hall of justice members just because they differ on the color of tights they like?

  • I was wondering about the Sunday Ticket thing myself - I too am in Steelers country and cannot survive without my Ticket.

    I am starting to think about all the money I can save and all the extra beer weight I won't have to deal with next year....

  • In reply to sjvl:

    I'm looking at it this way. Without the draft, the four preseason games, the 16 regular season games, and the four playoff games, I will be getting almost a whole extra month of free days. That's not a bad thing. I know my wife and kids will agree.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Actually, with all the two days of playoff games for the first two weeks, and the seventeen (not sixteen) regular season games, it really is a month. That means I spend 1/12th of my life sitting on my ass, watching football. Kind of makes me sick when I think about it.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    It would be good for families.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Football is freely available on the Internet folks.

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