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Pompei Has Warped Priorities

Dan Pompei wrote a few weeks ago that the Bears were not in need of a wide receiver and now he's writing that their off-season priority is acquiring of a second defensive end or solid under tackle.  I liked Dan's work very much in the regular season but what has he been smoking since the Bears lost to the Packers in the NFC Championship Game?   The Bears need blockers.  They need a big play wide receiver.  Every team in football would like to get more pressure on the quarterback but if the Bears are identifying that as their biggest weakness then they are having a difficult time identifying their weaknesses.  
PFT Lists Ten Things to Know About the Labor Dispute
I have been basically ignoring everything regarding the CBA but I took some time and read this thorough piece on PFT this morning.  It's worth looking at.  The passage I found most interesting was this:
As Texans right tackle Eric Winston explained earlier this week on PFT Live, the NFL could easily grow the pie by selling the Thursday night package to the highest bidder, in lieu of using it to prop up a league-owned network with far less distribution than it deserves.  The other easy answer would be to eliminate the playoff byes, adding four games to the wild-card round that could be sold to the networks.

Bears Will Pay Coaches Until Games are Missed
According to the Sun-Times, the Bears organization is handling themselves with immense class in the current situation:
While the overwhelming majority of NFL coaches will be forced to accept pay cuts in the event of a labor stoppage, Bears assistants have been assured their pay won't be docked unless a lockout forces NFL games to be canceled, team president Ted Phillips said Friday.

Good for the Bears.  

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  • Pompei been hanging with Doc?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Easy now.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I've been trying to not weigh in the draft thing, cause you guys seem to have it covered just fine, but I will say this. It was evident to most that we needed to upgrade our WR core last year. Martz sold us on the need for continued development and experience. Then, we left them alone. I can see them saying that this current O-line is really going to surprise people and just needs continuity and experience together. Which is to say, I can see them doing next to nothing for our O-line yet again. The interesting question is, after this year, Does Martz still think we have THE group of wideouts we need. I can't see that as being the case. I wouldn't be surprised if we take one or two O-linemen, a DB or two, a D tackle, and some wideouts. Alot will obviously depend on what happens with existing depth. Will Pisa and Roach stay? If not, we'll need more LB's. We'll need a corner if Peanut is going to Safety. We'll need to replace Tommy, I'd imagine. And we need depth on O-line (see projects to replace Kreutz and Garza).

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    my brief summary in no particular order:

    1. Need "go to" receiver - also must use Olson more creatively
    2. Need at least 1 bona fide starter for Offensive line from draft or FA
    3. Need Pisa and Roach to stay.
    4. Need Fantusz to somehow be the whte Sidney Rice. I like that he is 6'4 and can go get the ball. I don't like that he is slow and Canadian. Do you think he is really slower than Olson?

    you can never trust those damn lazy Canadians. (no offense Canada)

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    could i fucking spell more words wrong?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I hear Fan-Putz once lost a footrace to a retarded midget with two left feet, no knees and 14lb testicles. Just sayin

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Bad race to loose. Him and Freddie barnes should race for the
    Opty not to make second to last cuts again.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    How could I possibly take offense to that?? It's not like you insulted an entire country or anything! Gotta admit it made me laugh.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    then my humor wasn't lost in translation over the interwebs.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It's their beer, Waffle. You can tell alot about a country by the quality of their brew.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP, do you like Canadian beer? I wasn't sure from your post. If nothing else, you gotta like the 5% alcohol content. It's been forever since I've indulged but I used to like a few of them.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I was just piling on for the hell of it.
    I can't say I've really enjoyed Canadian beers, but I haven't tried many of them either. I always got the impression that the Canadian brew scene was like Mexico's - a very limited variety of domestic beers.
    If I'm wrong, let me know - I'm always open to trying different food/drinks.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think overall the beer is supposed to be pretty good. Molson and Labatts are the big ones. Keiths, Rickards and Sleemans are supposed to be good. I know a ton of guys that drink Rickards White with a slice of orange. Out west where I'm at there is a local brewery called Big Rock. They have a dark ale called Traditional that is supposed to be great. I'm sure a lot of that is due to it being fresh. Oddly enough Bud and Coors Light is popular here. It's been so long since I've had a beer the only Canadian ones I've had were Molson (so-so), Labatts (I liked it) and Moosehead (OK).

    Food wise, you should try a poutine. It's french fries with cheese curds and gravy. I'm sure if you ate very often you'd stroke out but it's surprisingly good. My wife is from Montreal and it's big deal there (that and real maple syrup).

    Thanks for piling on. Always good for a laugh. We all need more of that.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I thought you Bulls fans would appreciate this: http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/erik-spoelstra-heat-players-crying-in-locker-after-loss-to-bulls/57045

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    YEA BOY!!!!!!!!!! I was watching that game. How do you feel MB about a Basketball Team in SD? Im still trying to figure out why there isnt one.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I couldn't give a smaller fuck if I was a midget Fres.

    Not a big fan of Basketball... just not for me. Why won't it happen you ask?

    You have the pacific ocean right there, or the ski slopes, or biking, hiking, fishing, etc... etc....

    It's a miracle we have a fb team, and the spanos' are the only reason for that (i.e., silly wealth and too much time on their hands). I just think there's too much to do in SD for anyone to give a shit about any pro sports team. You should see stadium attendance when the chargers aren't kicking ass and losing in the playoffs. It's almost Jacksonville-level pathetic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aren't there several NBA teams in Cali that already can't draw crowds worth a damn?
    That's always confused me about the West Coast - pro sports teams that do consistently well attendance-wise seem to be pretty rare.
    I suppose it's the fact that you have so many more outdoor options. Us poor f0ckers in the midwest are screwed - hence an afternoon drinking Old Style and flipping burgers in a parking lot is a feasible Sunday afternoon.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Bingo! Can you imagine living in Minnysoda? Or in packerland (no offense Corm... see how I did that?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I....sniff, sniff...spent all my college years and four more besides in the state of Minnesota.

    College was great - freezing my balls off when it was on my own dime, not so much.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OK - survey time...who has a PS3 and who has an xbox?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    360

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    On the Emmitt Smith subject. Compare to baseball...

    I remember being really surprised when I heard an interview after a perfect game and the pitcher was thanking the rest of the team. I was thinking, why? What'd they do if there wasn't a single hit in the game? Answer - there are quite a few plays where the batter gets caught out rather than striking out. So even though the perfect game is great, it usually requires solid to outstanding fielding together with it. 20+ strikeouts is something else, but the perfect game is a team effort.

    Emmitt had a whole team behind him, just like Mr. Perfect Game. And without the team he could not have done what he did. But, with that said, what pitcher do you know that pitched a perfect game without being great at what he does? Its the same thing. Emmitt can play... and his team let him show the world how good he was.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    PS3

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    PS2. Keepin' it real.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Neither, but I hear there's a chance I'll be getting a PS3 and a Wii pretty soon.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Skip the Wii - get the MOVE controller on the PS3 instead and save $100.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    For free I meant. Probably just a rumor anyway.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    In that case, score one for Nitty!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh great. First DD and now Keane?

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7642

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Plain to see by the pic that it was time!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I knew it would be said. Cold Murph, but I envy your openness.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Agree Murph... Not so sure I want to be around much after 85 personally.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If I'm not able to move around and have people changing me I'm with you MB. If I'm still able to get around and be coherent I want to stick around though. Dying scares the shit out of me.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    RIP Mr. Keane. Would have loved to sit around and hear his stories over a beer or two.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Damn, that shit was cold.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But...but....you said?!?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OK here me out on this one. We need a veteran backup. Rex Grossman is a veteran and may be available. He knows what its like to be behind a porous offensive line. I say we sign him.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Buck there is no way the Sex Cannon would ever come back. Chicago "fans" are some of the dumbest, most vocal (seems to go hand-in-hand) assholes in the world. They persecuted the poor bastard. Granted he wasn't great but he didn't deserve half the shit he took. Cutler is finding this out first hand.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Cutler's persecution came from national press and other players, like Neon and that Jag scatback.

    The Score morons, esp. M&H - took him to task. Most FANS, everyday fans including the ones here, mostly gave him a pass.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP the fans started booing him on the first day of training camp after the SB. Literally.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Tiki Barber's coming back!

    Oh, yeah!

    Teams will be beating down the door for this guy who spent the last 4 years away from football CEMENTING his reputation as a complete KNUCKLEHEAD.

    So, we can look for Narcissus' next resurrection about 2014 or 15?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Off topic: Ohio State. Jim Tressel.

    If you think a 2 game suspension (Akron, Toledo games?) is going to make this go away you must be doing some high-powered hallucinogens.

    The players involed already got 5 game vacations and they could claim "ignorance of the law".

    Dez Bryant did about a 10 game stretch for similar stupidity.

    But you figure the coach who KNEW about it and COVERED IT UP is worth all of 2, meaningless games?

    Fire his sorry ass.

    Oh, and screw you Mr. President of Ohio State. Bad joke about firing tressel, BAD timimg for said joke.

    May it cost you your cushy, overpaid position.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    While I agree that tressel covering up was completely assanine and unacceptable, I can't help but be irritated that this was even an issue to begin with. Why were these kids in trouble for selling things that were given to them for their work on the field? They earned these awards by their play on the field and in my opinion had every right to sell them etc. I would want to keep them as memorabilia myself but maybe these awards didn't mean jack to them.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm not standing up for the NCAA (Nation Cash Acquiring Association), either.Screw them, , too.

    Sooner or later these burgeoning "Super Conferences" are going to get so big and so powerful, they're going to come to a point and decide that the NCAA is a pain-in-the-ass that they don't REALLY have to deal with and they'll form their own governing body, recruit who they want and how they want and make just as much, or more, money than they're making under the NCAA banner.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    PS3 and a boatload of microcharges to my CC, courtesy of the PS Network and my son, who loves to download add-ons.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Turns out Tiki was Bernie Madoff's favorite customer. Tee hee.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    PS3 & PS2. I actually play Star Wars Battle Front 2 (online) on PS2 more than any of my PS3 games. Anyone else still playing that game?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    no lol

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    360

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    from the 4 letter network's Rumor Central page:

    "A lot will happen between now and the start of the 2011 NFL season. We know there will be a draft, and at some point there might even be free agency and trades. So, it's a little early to be projecting starting lineups, but Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune has begun that process with the Chicago Bears. On Tuesday, he focused on the safeties.

    In Biggs' view, rising second-year pro Major Wright will be elevated to one starting spot for the team, and the other likely starter is Chris Harris. The situation with unrestricted free agent Danieal Manning is a fluid one. There have been reports that the Bears offered Manning an extension during the season and were rebuffed, though Manning's agent denies this claim. Biggs notes that the team may let Manning explore free agency and re-sign him at a team-friendly price if the market is not strong for his services."

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I read they offered him $6 mil for 3 years. I give JA credit that he isn't afraid to let players test the market and re-sign them if it works out. I hope Manning is with us next year but if not, oh well.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Waive his RFA status to the Birds, let them re-sign him. They'll play him, and we can swap 1st round spots so we can take Pouncey.

    I know - the Ravens won't be that stupid, but that is the kind of creative dealmaking that Angelo is incapable of. Either that - or his rep is so bad nobody wants to deal with him....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    PS3

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Blazers always draw a crowd Browne.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Sure, but is there any other game in town? Or the state?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Negative.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Anything Worthy goin on? Cutler get sacked by his Fiance yet?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Yeah, she did. Cutler took out his Oline for dinner, and she walked right in, slapped them around, then promptly tackled Cutler to the ground, stomped on his mcl, and chucked the engagement ring at Williams. "You've earned it more than I have," she laughed as she strolled out the door.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    haha

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Good stuff

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ho-Ly-Sheite!

    Is this guy serious?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tiki-Barber-is-coming-out-of-retirement?urn=nfl-wp21

    Any takers? Tikes!

    Shit, JA will probably be the first in line... willing to give someone, anyone... our 1st rd pick for him. "but Jerry, we're not with a team, we can't use the pick."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HOW IN THE FUCK DO YOU END UP BROKE AFTER MAKING WELL OVER 25 MILLION DOLLARS. Have any of these fucking retards ever heard of compounding interest or dividends/interest? Who does their financial planning in the NFL? Master P?

    Who can even spend money that quickly? My spending couldn't even keep up with the amount of interest and income i could produce just from having my money in a fucking high yield savings account for fucks sake. I hope Tiki breaks his leg just for being fucking stupid.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    that was hateful on my part. I don't want him to get hurt. I just can't stand the stories of dudes blowing 25,35,45, 55,75, 88 millions dollars. I could change the world with 55 million. How? Do you know how easy it is to turn 55 million in 75 million? Do you know how much easier it is to turn 75 million into another 25? At a certain point the interest you make on your money can make interest on itself and still finance a portion of a lifestyle. So now you are not only not touching your principal, you are not even touching the first generation of interest.

    I plan on winning the lottery tonight so i will show you what i mean.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    it always cracks me the fuck up how you rant, then feel badly about it, and come back recanting or at least softening your outburst.

    Fucking. Hilarious.

    And yeah, with you. Lots of bling and leech 'friends' will do that to you... also $100k worth of whateverthefuck hanesworth had in one night. That'll do it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A lot of times its the divorce settlements that kill these guys. If you've got $50 million and you make bad decisions, you've still got $25 million. If you've got $50 million and you make bad decision in the midst of a divorce, you might have $25 million to pay in a divorce settlement, leaving you with nothing. Throw in a child support payment for 18 years afterward... you start to see where this is going.

    Why these players allow themselves to get into these situations... lots and lots and lots of bad advice, bad friends, and expensive liabilities.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here's a thought... what would the CBA say about payments that vest post-retirement?

    You offer a guy a $20 million guaranteed money contract. $3 million a year for 4 years and $2 million a year after retirement (whenever that is).

    Or... You offer the guy $20 million guaranteed. $3 million a year for 4 years, plus the team underwrites an annuity good for the life of the player valued at $8 million at the time of signing.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    read up NB, most of these guys aren't interested in annuities or long term investments... they want the payout, the bling, the 5 pimp my rides and the 3 MTV Cribs all at once. The american dream.

    Stop being so smart and logical about it damn it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A lot of these guys grew up with nothing, so when they get the chance to have some money they waste it thinking it will always be rolling in. Whoever was talking about players buying liabilities and not assets hit it on the head. Somebody's been reading Rich Dad Poor Dad.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Man Shaun Gayle admits he banged the chick that killed his girlfriend and baby the night before she killed her. He lied in the first place and now comes clean on the stand. Sure doesnt look good if the killer happens to put some blame on Gayle and says he put her up to it. The power of the "P" can get ya every time. Hear that Artoo?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Ok, how does someone being murdered have to do with me? lol

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    It's that power of the "P" The younger you are the more mystical it's powers are!...LOL

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Hey MB, since you only know Erik's name, I'll give you another one. My name is C-Money. I'm 6'5", 265 lbs., I got less than 5% body fat, and my body is my playground.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Nice C-Money... go beat up Max the troll, he's about your size.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Youth is wasted on the young Murph. hee hee.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I agree.

    It's really easy to show though.. just get a table that shows how much they can earn. The cool thing you point out is they can put like two million in an account and just live off the interest every year for the rest of their lives if they never take out the 2 million.

    P= 2,000,000
    F=?
    I=6%
    N=5 years

    Future=Present(F/P,6%,5)

    thus F=2,000,000(F/P,6%5)
    F=2,838,000
    In just five years, not including what he will make every year but if he just puts Two million away for 5 years he will earn just 838,000.

    Yes. NFL players have no clue on how to manage their money.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I plugged the same numbers into this calculator http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator/compound_interest_calculator.htm

    and got $676,451.16 though that's still a ton of money.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I didn't compound it. I am pretty sure I did it right.

    Either way, A lot of money, think about if he does that every year.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I'll let you guys settle this among yourselves.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    ...and the professional assassin walks in the room and just smiles quietly.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    where in thee hell is crown???

    Getting the beatdown by the missus you think? Welcome to the real world crown... with the rest of us suckers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Poor bastard - he never saw it coming.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    in all fairness, we tried to warn him MBP.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You know what they say. Warnings fall on deaf ears and on dudes under the influence of poon.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Beat down by the missus? Sounds like my night. Is it too soon to want 9 more days of freedom?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Yes Doc it is too early. Some of us never get alone time.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Beatdown you say? As if.

    lol.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Says the mathematician who doesn't work with numbers.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I don't WANT to work with numbers, I'd rather do proofs all day, but I do teach pre calc, among other things. And one number I do know is for you guys to settle this, you'll need to decide on the number of times the interest is compounded per year. Until then, I'll just sit back and watch the argument that can never be won.

    Another thing these morons should figure out (the athletes), is the concept of present value and income stream. It's not hard, with their income, to gaurantee an annual income stream of well more than I'll ever make in a year. A little calculus never hurt anybody. Well, besides Erik, I mean.

    I will say this. The difference between continuous compounding and once annual compounding is a mere $23,000 after 5 years. I believe NEW BEAR did once annual compounding and Erik used some kind of new math I'm not yet aware of.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Doc's right. I didn't compound it. Plus, I didn't use a calculator. I just used our formula to find the future value of a present value five years into the future and at 6%

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    First of all, Fuck Tiki Barber. I hope that fucker stays broke. Douche bag.

    On the Emmitt discussion, there's no question at least some of his yardage is due to Erik Williams and the rest of the O-line. Probably didn't hurt to have an ultra competitive and talented WR/QB combo either. It's easy to see Emmitt wouldn't have been AS productive without those things. Same goes for Montana with Rice, Craig, Walsh, .... Same with most of the greats. What would be interesting is to see what Walter or Barry would have done on those teams. On the other hand, Walter had a pretty damn good team around him for a few years, including a very good O-line (not 90's Cowboys era good, but definitely very good). But his best year was '77 when he had shit for a team around him. His numbers weren't nearly as good when he had a great team around him. I understand that he had already nearly run the wheels off the bus by then, but still. I guess my point is, great players will find a way to be great, and Emmitt deserves all the accolades he got. But there's no way I'll ever say he could hold Walter's jock. All bias notwithstanding.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    It just occurred to me who the next starting RB for the Omaha Nighthawks is going to be.

    Dammit.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Athletes buy liabilities instead of assets. Big fancy houses, bling, cars, instead of productive assets.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    You just made a great argument for increasing the capital gains tax rate and flattening the marginal income tax rates.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    This fascination with Peanut at safety hit DBB last year at this time as well.

    Do. Not. Get.

    Old Sauce did the right move last year: put him as the zone help corner, he's no longer the island man. Look how Peanut responded... good year. Played well, esp. with DJ Moore on his side.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And it happened while he was still recovering from a collapsed lung, which I thought was really odd. I don't know. If I felt he could stand up to the physical beating he's going to take at safety, I'd be all for it. But I just don't believe he can handle the safety position without speeding up his physical deterioration.
    He's certainly talented enough to do it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I mentioned the Peanut move not because that's what I think should happen (necessarily) but that someone on here has reported the move to be imminent. I've not heard confirmation so I guess maybe it's just rumor.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    You weren't imagining things. I recall hearing word out of Halas Hall that Peanut was moving to safety this year.
    On the other hand, the discussion about it last summer was odd because the last thing that made sense with a dinged up #1 corner was to move him to a spot where he's going to be meeting AP in the hole 20 times a game.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It was my understanding that Peanut wanted to move to safety next year. I know I read that somewhere - - - I will try to find it.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    We need a good safety ... Peanut's got the skillz ...I see a way out of this ...

  • With the release of Aroma, I think its garuanteed that a WR is gonna come in. What skill level he will be is uncertain.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    "Paging Freddie Barnes. Barnes to the service desk, please, a man named Ted is on the phone for you."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    A couple of cc's of cortizone to the knees and a B12 shot, and Marty Booker is also good to go...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    ha

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dear Jerry,

    The time has come for you to do something useful for this team. Like that Peppers thing, except instead of breaking the bank. It's draft day and we here at DBB are called upon yet again to slam some sense into that noggin. Not that it shall do any good, becasue if we know anything over here at DBB, it's that if there is a way to find mediocrity then you have the motherfuckin' divining rod. The Y shaped stick of finding talent sure to underperform.

    So go over to Champs and stop Chris Williams for ordering another plate of chili cheese fries, no matter how delicious a dinner treat, and pick up the damn phone and dial Baltimore's area code.

    You see, more and more Mock drafts have Pouncey going at 26 to the Ravens and then we get Hudson of FSU.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-mock-draft-after-Scouting-Combine-analysis-rankings-030211

    Unacceptable. Pouncey is Garza's replacement, the anchor from which you build outward and a critical acquisition. He cannot be allowed to wear purple and be the best OL they've seen since Johnny Ogden. Otherwise, there will be something diagonal running through you like Ogden runs through Chicago, it will be our boots up your ass.

    So call the GM of the Ravens and trade up. Lessee what you have to tempt the Ravens for a couple spots... hmmm. It's going to have to be on the D side of the ball. A versatile player. Hmmm... tough one. It will have to be Pringles or DMan. I am not feeling Pringles mad skills, but you may be able to convince the Ravens that they can make something out of the kid. Manning might be more their speed, as they could also use a kickoff return man. Either way: do it.

    Because Pouncey is a special player, a anchor for a driving run game that this teams really needs, and we can go get a safety. We've been trying to find one since Mike Brown went downtown - downtown Kansas City that is - and we've been stuck with retread Harris, who couldn't keep the engine tuned for the big one against the Pack - because he's BEAT TO SHIT - and it's time to put him out to pasture and tell him thanks for the hard nose play.

    Do not let Pouncey escape. We're counting on you to FUD, misdirect or out and out bribe such that we get what we need here, and not a project from FSU. Gators > Seminoles. You know it, I know it, Bobby fucking Bowden knows it like he knows the pimples on Urban Meyer's ass form the constellation 0wn3d, since he's been looking at it so long.

    Do the right thing, like Spike his angriness once said. Get on the horn today. Your job is on the line...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If we trade Manning so we can move up 3 spots in the draft I will be furious at Angelo. The guy's got way more value than that as a backup returner for Hester and as a contributor to our defense's secondary. I'm not opposed to trading him since he isn't a centerpiece to the team, but that would only be if the dream left tackle fell a few spots and we needed to jump like 10 to get him.

    My comment to you is the same comment I have for Jeff. Yes, O-line is the priority. Yes, Angelo needs to make it the #1 goal of the off-season to bring in some new talent and protect our franchise QB. But we can't kill the rest of the team to get there. We need our D to stay intact and we need to address other needs as well.

    That means O-line is the first choice, but we can't over-reach in the first to get somebody. That includes drafting someone above their grade and making a poor trade to move up. If the top 20 teams get O-line hungry, then there might be a CB or DT worth taking instead. As long as O-line gets addressed somehow and the first rounder acts like a first rounder, then I'll be happy.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Manning is so marginal as a safety that he lost his job to Pringles. It was Pringles and Harris in the playoffs. Yet, there is no doubt that Manning has more speed and we know he can tackle.

    The guy is what, in his 6th year? It's as football smart as he is gonna get. From here, it's only diminishment of his physical talent.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I agree - you don't give up Manning without a significant improvement in draft position. A handful of spots from 29 is not remotely worth losing him. And I'm not a huge fan of his work at safety or nickel either.
    I'd much rather fill a need at 29 and pick OL later then lose Manning just to pick an OL at 28.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Just for fun... who would you take if you had to decide right now.

    1) The genuinely best O-line player available when we get to #29, or
    2) A young Mike Singletary (drafted 38th in the 1981 draft).

    Its not all about needs.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    1.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    1, Singletary can't play Urlacher's position and it's not going anywhere for a while.

    Look what a dominant Offensive Line did for Emmitt Smith. It got him to the Hall of Fame.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I think Emmitt would have been a hall of famer even if drafted by a shitty team. Would he have beaten Payton's record? Not a chance, but he had some of the best vizion and change of direction i've ever seen. He gets no respect, it was not all his line.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    hard to say mang, Emmitt got the first 2.5 yards spotted for him on every run. He definitely had heart but i have to believe that the human bulldozers he had in front of him played a huge role.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    What part of

    "The Bears' Offensive Line was one of the worst in the league."

    does Mr. Pompeii fail to grasp?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Wasn't it the worst? Who had a worse line?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We had the worst Oline, hands down. Scarily enough, our HEALTHY oline was even worse than some other Olines that plugged in 2nd and 3rd stringers like the Colts.

    You hear that, Jerry?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    that's the issue... he doesn't.... ever.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We should see who is available and pick the best guy on the boards AT POSITIONS WE NEED TO FILL. - MB

    To follow up on our last threads, I totally agree with this MB. Hopefully, (and it's a big stretch, I admit) we can sign a bit agent LT. I don't like spending money on FAs either (and it's not even my money), but as long as they perform, like Peppers, Cutler(?), I have no complaints. A second tier G in FA would be nice too, and would give us the most flexibility in the draft, esp in the first two rounds.

    If we have a LT and G in place, then we can afford to draft who ever is the best value, like MB says, in a position of need - i.e. OLINE.

    Realistically though, I expect ONE big FA signing (it better fuckn be an Olineman!)

    Ironically, the Viking and Lions may determine which Olineman may fall to us.

    The Vikes and Lions pick back to back (at #12 $ #13 respectively), and a lot of experts are predicting that both may pick up LTs

    IF this happens, there might be a run at LTs, and leave us with sucky options there. However, this may also leave better C/Gs n the board for us. Given the Bears' draft history, we always stay at our spot and see who "falls" to us, and the Vikes and Lions of all teams may actually shape our future.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Singletary did play Urlachers position. I'd take #2 then trade Urlacher for a choice and use it for the best O lineman available.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Murph, Singletary didn't play the Mike in a Tampa 2. I do agree that he played middle linebacker beack when their jobs were to fucking kill running backs, qb's and cover the occasional screen pass. Urlacher runs a 4.5ish and can drop 30 yards back while banging a cocktail waitress at the riverboat casino.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Singledummy's too small to do what Urlacher does.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Dude. Trade Urlacher? Is it that time of the year again?

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I think we should draft some cheerleaders!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Second that one

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Doc, Cal hasn't beaten me up that much since I got that restraining order on him. I have a C but that I can bring it up, I know that's a what she said, but I am more focused on this Saturday.

    MB, am I your favorite on here? You always call me by my real name now lol

    Don't worry, I won't drink to the point that you all wonder what ever happened to Artoo, but I will live it up.

    Dude, Fres, made a great point, we freed up some room. Is that for a big FA, a lot of FA, or just money room to sign our draft picks?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    May the force be with you, Artoo.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I think it's for leftover cash for the McCaskey's to cover increasing gas prices.

    Keep in mind, 85, at 21 you have a built in excuse to do almost anything and people will just say, "He's young". Might want to make use of that while you still can.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Go 85 Go!

    Yup! Live it up. "Young, dumb and full of..." 21 - wow...ur celebrating should go something like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYz3E4MckSw&feature=player_detailpage

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    yes you are Erik.

    ...that and you're the only one who's real name I know. Have fun lad... party safe.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Get off Black ops and Get on the REAL Call of Duty. MODERN WARFARE 2!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Lol get Black Ops and play me and my buddies.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    PS3 or xbox?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ps3

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    hands down... although xbox Kinect seems pretty interesting.

    You're on or the other MBP.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh, you were asking him. Never mind.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Xbox, The kinect is awesome lol you don't need a mic to talk to the people anymore and the games are decent.

    Ps3 is free and offers a lot of cooler things

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I'm going to survey below...I can't figure out who the fuck has what.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/03/stability-at-linebacker-a-bears-strength-in-2010.html

    You don't think the Bears would get rid of Pisa do you? I thought Lach, Briggsy and Pisa made a hell of a trifecta.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    He hasn't made any great plays but has a great motor. It might be time to draft someone for that position.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    i don't know mang, those 3 were one of the best LB corps in the league. There is a drop off when any one of those 3 guys aren't in there

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I say keeping Pisa is a must. He's not flashy but he's very good and would be a great option while developing a younger LB for the future.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Thumbs down on that one, Mustache. The Drum Line is better.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Pouncey's a good prospect and all, and I would love to see us get him. But, calling him a special player is a little premature.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Big brother, Maurkice Pouncey, begs to disagree. He showed up with the Steelers and immediately became their best starting lineman, allowing them to change up their whole approach.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    We could demote Martz into iPad operator. Hmmm.....

    http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/030711-sports-analytics-conference.html?hpg1=bn

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Trade up?

    That begs a good question, GP.

    When was the last time the Bears traded UP in the first round?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You're gonna make me go look that up now...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well, YOU started it and piqued my curiosity because, for the life of me, all I can remember is first round trade-DOWNS (and trade-OUTS) in recent years.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yes, JA only trades down... for busts.

    We've only traded down once in JAs tenure. not sure who it was for.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Up

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ok, all I can find is 2003 - when Angelo traded up in the 5th round to select Justin Gage.

    There's a case of a guy with talent but no coaching. Jerry's instincts were right there, the coaches let him down on that one - as evidenced by his work on the Titans.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks for the info GP.

    I don't count stuff like that.
    I'm talkin FIRST ROUND trade-ups and they're already O for the last 8 drafts based on your quick research.

    So much for calling for the Bears to "Trade up".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I believe that that is the one and only time the Bears have traded up during Angelo's tenure. At least, that was what was posted on here a while back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'll probably get the Chicago Now boot for posting a chain letter to DBB, but i don't care:

    Charlie Sheen 47, is all over the news because he's a celebrity drug addict. While Andrew Wilfahrt 31, Brian Tabada 21, Rudolph Hizon 22, Chauncy Mays 25 are all soldiers who gave their lives this week with no media mention. Honor THEM by re-posting this news. Support our troops.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Let's honor them by getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and stop being the World Police.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    good post GP... and agree Corm.

    Useless fight in Afganistan... didn't we learn anything from from the russians? Can it really be about the poppies?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't get me started on the geopolitics of Afghanistan.
    Suffice to say, it wasn't, yes, not remotely.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Please... preach on it mbp. I still don't really get it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I can't - I'm abstaining from political discourse until the sun comes back in Nebraska.
    IT SNOWED today. What is -that- shit?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well said all.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Free Mustache Rides!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Couldn't agree more.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This guys sums up my frustration:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/3/7/2035243/nfl-lockout-2011-owners-nflpa-cba

    The NFLPA is still focused on the revenue sharing, like a dog drooling over a meaty bone. Long term care package is the answer.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    agreed, I read that and I lost some respect for Pompei. Also the other article where Martz is praising the WRs. When I read that it didn't pass the smell test, and I figured it was a smoke screen for us picking up a WR FA (I hope so --- Rice, Floyd, etc.). We're lucky Cutler didn't miss more games due to injury, and if he gets sacked >50 times next year we will not contend for a S-Bowl. The talent level difference of our O-line vs D-line is obvious to all, except Pompei and JA.

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