Lockout Thread

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Jerry Jones at home.

Blindly supporting the players or owners in a CBA situation can be a problematic approach, especially during barroom discussions.  If you support the owners, you're a right-winger who has no compassion for the working man.  If you support the players, you're a socialist who believes it's more important for millionaires to make more millions than for a sport to continue operating at a profit.  

Other than player safety and healthy, here's my stance: I don't care.  Not for one second.  I don't care if they go to an 18-game season.  I don't care if they decrease the salary cap.  I don't care about "splitting the pie".  I want football.  So figure out how to make that happen and do it.
I'll let you guys control the conversation on this issue and join in on occasion.  It's just hard for a struggling playwright/sports blogger, who spends 8 hours a day wrestling with day-to-day financial solvency, to get emotional about a squabble of millionaires versus billionaires.
In the meantime, Noah and I have launched a new website called TheOtherSports.com.  It is a site dedicated to covering golf, NASCAR, soccer around the world and sports normally ignored by the mainstream press.  Stop by and see if ya like it.  Remember it's a work in progress and all feedback is appreciated.  We're also looking for contributors so email me if you're interested at jeff@dabearsblog.com.

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  • My exact sentiments.

  • I think the owners are bigger dicks than the players but it's just a matter of degrees. I'm not getting really worried about the season until August. Hopefully these dopes can figure it out by then.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well, Canada, I think the Players Association just narrowed the "Who's the Bigger Dick" gap mightily by telling potential draftees they should boycott the NFL draft festivities.

    Someone will have to explain to me how that move advances the NFLPA's cause one iota.

    It HAS illicited an absolute shit-storm of criticism, including, of all people, Mr. Mike "The Players are always right" Golic, who, in more polite terms basically said "Screw that" this morning.

    That request translates into
    "We, the NFLPA, are happy to piss all over this day that many of you have been looking forward to YOUR ENTIRE LIVES!"

    Congratulations, Demaurice Smith.
    You are as big a prick as any of the owners.
    Aren't you proud?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I really don't get too worked up over any of this. It's business. The ugly side. I'm sure there will be a lot more stuff from both sides that will piss you off if you let it.

    I used to dislike Marvin Miller and Donald Fehr in MLB but they did an ass-kicking job for their clients. Fucked up the game for a lot of people but those players make great money. I popped my cherry with the '78 strike in the NFL and I'll never get that involved again.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/14j4

  • As are most of you, I am completely disgusted with the players and the owners. But I cannot attempt to 'punish' them by canceling my Direct TV subscription, because in the long run I will only be hurting myself. To me, if the starters for every team start playing for the Super Bowl, I am watching every last play of every last non-preseason game my Chicago Bears play. Because I get SO much enjoyment out of every last play (except for Cutler's bone-headed, red-zone INT's) that it just makes emotional and economical sense for me to do it. At under $300/yr. NFL ticket is worth it to me, even if the guys playing the games and the guys paying them to do so are both greedy ass holes. Bear Down!

  • Just get m football damn it... I don't care who ends up at the bottom of the Potomac.

    Say what you will about soccer hooligans, but the NASCAR crowd is fucking downright frightening.

    Not really interested in another blog, but I may post my thoughts about MMA here once in a while.

    Oh, and Denny green says hi to all you guys... he had me over for dinner tonight. Ok, just kidding.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm an expert on the midget mud-wrestling association too MB. I'll probably make a few contributions about the subject on the new blog.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Perfect Corm. Can't wait to read them.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dinner with the Shmucks:

    MB: "Hey, Coach Green, this fish is pretty good. Where they hard to catch?"

    Coach Greene "They are where we thought they were!"

    MB: O"K, OK, what'd you do to the small fish?"

    Coach G: "We let 'em off the hook!"

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Hey!

    Shouldn't that be dinner with Schuck (singular)?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Depends on what kind of day I've had, MB :-)

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Wow, this thing is worse than most of us thought: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110315/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_nfl_labor

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    on a more fun note...

    MBP and/or Doc... when are your birthdays?: http://www.uncrate.com/men/gear/misc-gadgets/bike-6-pack-holder/

    How about this for the more discerning drinker... johnny, closed any big deals lately?: http://www.uncrate.com/men/culture/drinks/glenlivet-70-year-old-whiskey/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Love it. Can't tell you how many times I've wanted to hop on my bike and cruise on down to Beertopia but my wicker basket is otherwise occupied...I gotta wonder though: do open container laws apply on human-powered two-wheel vehicles?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Typically bicycles have to obey all the same laws as cars. It varies from state to state and whether it was Barney Fife with a hard on for bicyclists. I'm guessing most cops would rather not deal with it. Usually a drunken cyclist is only a danger to him or herself. If they were riding on a busy street I'm sure they would get busted.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    A friend of mine got busted for a DUI after he crashed one of those mini motor bikes (that make you look like a circus clown) in a unbuilt housing development. Concussed and bleeding, he then suffered the ignominy of the lamest arrest ever.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Man that really sucks. I would say that cop was in the Barney Fife category. You guys must have busted his chops for a long time over that one.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I have a quadriplegic friend here in GA who was busted for 'DUI' in his wheelchair. It was pretty funny watching a bunch of Dekalb County's 'finest' trying to figure out how to take him to jail!

  • In reply to noly972:

    Wow. Just wow.

  • In reply to noly972:

    That's just wrong on so many levels.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Funny you should ask. I'll be 4 years shy of 40 in two weeks and a day.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Welcome to the 36 club. How many of us are there?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    7 months to go

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    There a definite cluster of 1974-75 babies on this blog.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1/register/joinprivategroup_assign_team?GID=170717&P=dbb

    PW: DBB

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Why do they ask me to create a new bracket? What does that mean?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    put your picks in the bracket...the group is the "league".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Feel like an idiot now. I thought they wanted me to like, start a whole new league. Like some kind of league fractal. When they asked me to name the bracket I couldn't wrap my mind around why I would possibly want to name my bracket? Like it's some kind of puppy or something. Sheesh.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I have no business filling out a bracket. I just go favorites, with the occasional homer pick thrown in. If I happen to hear an "expert" on the radio say something good about a team, I pick 'em. Who has time to follow college basketball? The tournmanent is exciting though.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I was confused also. I think all my homer picks are in. Go Bucky.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm in and its nice to see no one knows a thing about college basketball. I can't tell if Doc is serious or just fuckin with us so we drop our guard. "lol"

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    If I was Viva, you'd have a right to be worried. On the other hand, since there's no money on the table, I may actually be lucky enough to win this thing.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Have you guys seen this?!?!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/16/nfl-considers-kickoffs-at-35-yard-line-touchbacks-to-25-yard-line/

    The competition committee, in one of their customary 'brilliant' moves to dick with a game that is already wildly popular, is trying to move kickoffs to the 35-yard line and touchbacks to the 25. There trying to eliminate the THRILL of the return game.

    What the hell is going on with my football league?!?!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I thought the reason they moved the kicks to the 30 was because there were too many touchbacks. Dumb idea.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I HATE this idea.
    Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I couldn't stay away. I love you guys too much. I have evolved. A better Waffle has emerged.

    Ghost - in response to your article I find myself angry because change just for the sake of change can sometimes be bad. Getting rid of wedges was a good idea. Watching a reserve 6th round draft pick launch himself into a wall of 4 dudes was a recipe for disaster. Trying to do away with kickoff returns though is lunacy. Everyone knows that this is designed to get rid of returns by rewarding the team for taking a touchback. It's the logic behind the proposed rule that scares me. The fact that this is even being considered shows how crazy it has gotten.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    "the article"

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Did you see Trac anywhere?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    No Trac sighting but i did discover a weight bench and dumbells in my basement that had been lost for a while.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    A good workout always seems to lessen the aggression caused by someone just pissing you off so much you can't fuckin take it any more. Nice to cya back "Johnnie W 2.0"

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Fuck man, lightening this place up has been a tough job lately...

    I'll continue thought, and to that end...

    Never mind us, the fans, this lockout will hurt the CHICKEN WING industry: http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/03/15/nfl-lockout-could-hurt-chicken-wing-industry/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, it feels like San Diego here in Chicago today. 61 degrees! Seems like 75. I will personally do my part to keep our chicken wing industry in the black during these tough times. Jay-Z has a special wing recipe that i think needs to be sampled.

    recipe will be available tomorrow.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Nice.

    btw, don't you go changing Johnny.

    I'm actually not a wing fan, but I do like the sauce and the celery together.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How can you not like wings? Please don't tell me you like Quiche. If you do please dont tell me, it will ruin my mental picture of you my man.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    MB seems like he would be down for some fish tacos with some fresh avocado, a couple of coronas and a beach party with firepit and hot ass hippie surfer chicks. Cali style. Damn that sounds good. MB, i'm coming over for dinner.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Pick me up on the way.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hahahaha...

    Nice Johnny. Grilled fish tacos... unless I'm actually in Mex, then baja-style works best. A god carne asada is also money.

    I'm a meat eater Murph, and I love chicken wings, just not the way most places serve them. I don't love it when the greasy, fatty skin is most of the wing. And, they're not a big thing out here, so I've only really had shitty ones. When I come to Chi next season some 'a you guys are going to have to accompany me to one or two of your favorite eateries and show me what's up.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Phewwww I'm glad to hear that MB

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Does this mean Hooters will go out of business? Nooooooooo!

    On a side Hooters note, who are these people who bring their families to Hooters? What's that about? Father, son, I could see, but the dude who brings his wife and family to Hooters has got some issues.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    in Springfield IL there is a wing place called
    SHOW ME's which is a poorer whiter trashier version of Hooters. My wife said the wings are great though. They all went there for a work lunch one time.
    No bras and i think the shirts are that ribbed white tee shirt material and cut off above the belly button like a Maui 88 jersey

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I will have to inform my younger brothers - they both live there (*sheds a tear for them).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    if i lived in Springfield I would eat Horseshoes every single day.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Can I just shed a tear for the little squirrels. Are they gone forever?

    If so, I am sad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    they will return, i just wanted to show Cutty some love

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    sweet

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    So I know you guys love B-ball and we've also talked cereals here... so in my continued effort to divert your attention away from the depressing labor dispute and onto trivial, silly but happier shit....

    I give you: http://www.thevictoryformation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Chocolatology-Bracket-shrunk1.jpg

    So I think their #1 seeds are total bullshit.

    Here are mine calls:

    1. Hyperactive: Butterfinger (by far the odds on favorite to win by a large margin in my book)

    2. Cavity: Milk Duds (and Rollos if milk duds go down with an injury)

    3. Diabetes (sponsored by Jay): Twix

    4. PMS Relief: 100 Grand bar (KitKat was a close second (I enjoy its simplicity) but they got bumped down because of their absolutely gay commercials. Although Crunch bars have a special place in my heart as well

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't like their bracket. They've got most of my faves in the hyperactive bracket. But I'll play along. The Hyperactive and PMS Relief brackets are tightly contested for the most part. The other two brackets lack the star power and the dominant team. The final four, based on this bracket is: Snickers Peanut Butter (which I've never had but sounds quite good) vs Reeses PB cup and M&M Peanuts vs. Nutrageous. Reese's dominates both their matchups and fully represent in the championship. PB Cups dominates throughout the championship game. A furious late rally by the Nutrageous squad sends the game into overtime. It's back and forth in O.T. and neither team is giving up the easy bucket. A full on brawl breaks out and half the teams are ejected. The crowd boos with horror. A pissed off cup gives the bird to the crowd on his way out, inciting a riot in the stands. The final minute is a slugfest of fast breaks. Peanut Butter Cup pulls it out in the end by stealing two inbound passes in the final 9 seconds and canning threes. The Cups reign victorious....

    but that's just how I see it.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    (I'm giggling as Iwrite this)

    Sooooooo, I'm getting that you really like nuts huh doc?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, just peanuts.

    I'm with him in regards to RPBC. There is no other candy than that. It's like a little peanut butter sandwich, except you get chocolate instead of bread.
    And who can argue with that?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    My damn fake tags keep disappearing b/c this comment-code sucks.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    wow lot of peanut love out there. I personally hate nuts in my deserts. Not in brownies, not in cake, not in chocolate... RPBC are ok, but not compared to some of my picks.

    Peanut butter is the 2nd prince of candies MBP... caramel is the king. Sweet, sweet, chewy caramel.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The expensive stuff with sea salt.

    Not the king, but pretty frickin' spectacular.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    not a huge candy with salt guy, but I did have milk chocolate infused with rose (flavor?) and that was the shizzy. Upscale shizzy at that.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And more: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/273230-burnett-blasts-goodell-as-blatant-liar?eref=fromSI&eref=fromSI

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Burnett was a UFA, so he was lookin' to get PAID. Show him the money! Oh yeah!

    So I can see where he's a bit angry.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah man...rolo's, milk duds.My peraonal fave..Caramello(?),those Riesen things are pretty bomb..I dig the firmer chew caramel covered in dark chocolate.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If the league moves the kickoff to the 35 yard line I will stop watching this fucking sport. Roger Goodell is destroying the NFL

  • In reply to Joseph:

    We should get rid of the linemen all together and go back to counting alligators before rushing the QB.

    I liked the XFL's idea of a foot race to decide who gets the ball first. That was one on one and was fun to watch (sort of like a fumble recovery drill). I'd keep kick offs the way they are and get rid of coin tosses as well.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    QB draft class Wonderlic socres: http://twitter.com/mortreport/status/48375070418157568

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Chris Mortenson looks like a televangelist on that Twitter page.

    In other news:

    WHY???? It's like doing a remake of Ben Hur.

    http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/922-red-dawn-bad-guys-digitally-changed-from-chinese-to-north-korean?nc

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ridiculous. WOLVERINES!!!!!!

    on a similar theme... johnny, have you rocked Red Dead Dawn? When I get my cave back up and running, I'm going to be giving my PS3 a workout. Also the new Mortal Kombat looks silly.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i'm done with video games. The amount of hours playing MW2 in 2010 could have yielded a Masters Degree in Finance. I'm ebaying all that shit but am keeping the PS3 itself because it does everything.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    plus we may have another one on the way so i have to put away some serious coin.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Let me be the little red guy on your shoulder and tempt you:

    Iiiiinteresting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjNEKnifT5M

    DUDE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHcM6aHPnE

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And then

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I just don't understand why we can't have a video game in which Canada invades the United States.

    It could be the ROXX0r. Hockey Mask wielding goons, with Oiler jerseys on riding in Buick Roadmaster wagons with 30-06 and shotguns, raiding our wastelands and taking the women. We fight back with flamethrowers fueled with moonshine.

    Sounds like a Duke Nukem add-on.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Depending on the area of the country, the Canadians might leave the women alone.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    SUPER BOWL XLV CHAMPS!!!

    Sincerely,

    January 23rd 2011

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Scary Waffle. How many would that be for ya?

    I'm dead set against having anymore. Moving up to three means a bigger car, bigger house, etc... And yet, I'm having the hardest time on the pulling the trigger on the whole vasectomy thing.

    Good luck Bro.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I'm the exact same way doc. Hell no to any more. I already told my wife that shit ain't happenin'...

    ...and though a huge shot in my nutsack followed by the zipper treatment, all while in the baked chicken position REALLY doesn't sound at ALL fun.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    While growing up, my father used to purchase all of the "NFL Greatest Hits", "NFL Toughest Players", and all that hype the NFL put out in the mid to late 80's. You guys remember watching those? Anyway, I just wanted to give a shout-out to my favorite narrator~ Steve Sabol (yeah, including Mr. Freeman). Hope he recovers soon!
    I tried looking up the "Hi Mom Symphony" and the "NFL Porky Pig narration" to link. But couldn't find it. I know you guys remember that shit.

  • In reply to Church:

    The Sabol family have been killing it for years. I love the voice overs on the NFL films productions. That guy could make anything sound epic. Hope he pulls through. He has a brain tumor so that blows.

  • In reply to Church:

    Jay Z Buffalo Boss Chicken Wings:

    4 lbs chicken wings

    Marinade:
    8 cups water
    1.5 tbsp salt
    1.5 tbsp pepper
    2 tbsp lemon juice

    Fire in the Hole Sauce:
    1.5 oz Habanero diced
    1.5 Serrano diced
    2 or 3 tbsp butter melted
    1.5 tbsp white vinegar
    1.5 teaspoon paprika and 1.5 of chili powder
    1 tbsp cayenne
    half cup of frank red hot sauce
    oil for frying

    blend the peppers so there are not big chunks and combine the sauce ingredients to coat the wings after they are done cooking.

    Do it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Holy crap Johnny that sauce would be hot. Habenero and Serrano peppers make jalapenos seem like kid's stuff. I've canned all of them (also, Hungarian wax peppers) and after eating them if you belched you could weld a fender. Think I'll have to try making that sauce.

    Also, I get a kick out of Max changing his name and crying about the rough treatment. Same shit, different handle. Well done my friend.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    i don't know if it is Max because Max actually knew shit from time to time and made semi coherent arguments even though he was annoying as fuck.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I made it this weekend and put it on a chicken sandwich. it was definitely hot but had solid depth of flavor too. I put out the flames with Labatt

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The flavor is the thing. Hot just to be hot is a waste of time. I'm not crazy about Frank's hot sauce so I'll probably swap it out for a differnt brand. Wish I could join you in a Labatt's. Due to popular demand (wife, family, Candadian law enforcement services) I'd better stick with the Diet Coke.

    I thought you summed it up very nicely for our under the bridge loving poster. The only reason I think it is Max is the playing the victim card when he's called out.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    i'm a fiend for Coke so now I go with Coke Zero which is pretty tasty all things considered. Holy shit, you and i are talking depth of flavor, trolls and soda preference. Football please start so you and I can discuss Cutty, Peppers, Lach and all of those other things as side dishes and not the main dish.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I have to agree on the Coke Zero thing JW2.0
    I despised regular Diet Coke, I drank Diet Pepsi or any other diet drink except Coke. I've added Coke Zero into the rotation, and it has a shot to move into the starting lineup.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny, nice recipty.

    I do have a request to pass along from Julius himself...

    Swap out (or just add) some Bhut Jolokia Peppers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhut_Jolokia_chili_pepper

    Remember this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tRq8ExAHzk

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    holy crap.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    One of my employees got me a bottle of Dave's Ghost Pepper sauce for Christmas.

    I regularly use Dave's Total Insanity sauce and I fear to tread where that guy just went.
    Yikes.

    In terms of restaurant chicken wings, my youngest brother is a chili-head and he was defeated by Quaker Steak and Lube's Triple Atomic wings. It was sure fun to watch him try though. Wicket - you should give your review!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    3 times hotter than a habenero, uh, no thanks. When I've canned peppers the jalapenos, serranos and Hungarian wax peppers the air was pretty fragrant but not too bad. When we cut into the habeneros, it's like all the air got sucked out of the room. Pretty amazing. That poor guy that ate the Jolokia was in serious pain. When he finally passed it I'll bet he had to wipe with a fudgesicle.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Totally agree.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Unlike 1-23, almost all the Packer fans around me have been classy, and I'm surrounded by them. A few idiots have been over the top assholes, but most have just engaged in light-hearted ribbing. Every team has their share of idiot fans and they make the rest look bad. The one exception around me is the Viking fans. They are the worst. It must be in their DNA or something.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I always said the same thing until this year. The Fudgie trolls are changing my mind.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    it would be 2 mang. it scares the shit out of me. I'm going to start faking orgasms.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    let me clarify. i will be selling MW2 and Black Ops immediately (unless you guys want to start a clan) but will be keeping Metal Gear 4 until I beat it and then will be resigning my commission. I can't just go cold turkey on this shit. it's like kicking heroin...and we all know how tough that can be.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Dude! Congrats!

    How far apart will they be? Do you know what yet?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    thanks mang, we'll see in a couple of days what the situation is. could be false alarm...could be real alarm.

    Also, i broke down and played Mw2 again tonight because it is awesome and the game hasn't been sold to another yet. it was awesome.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ok, let me be the little red guy on your shoulder and tempt you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMScCDvlens

    Iiiiinteresting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjNEKnifT5M

    Kind of interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StBgTO5TPh0

    DUUUUUDE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHcM6aHPnE

    BOOM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtRnpC7ddv8

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This is from late February but was still a nice picture of the FA situation in the NFC North:

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/02/28/nfc-north-free-agent-preview

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Speaking of which. Do you remember when they used to have crunchy PB cups? The ones with nuts in them? Those were the days.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Did you happen to see the ESPN website where they do a top 10 NFL running back ranking? This shows how friggin stupid some of those ESPN writers are, and makes you wonder how in the hell did they score such a sweet job on something they know nothing about. The top couple of picks are straight forward, but for example Pat Y picks Thomas Jones ahead of L Charles. T Jones and L Charles are on the same team, and T Jones is the BACKUP running back! Really ESPN? Of course M Forte was not even listed, he gets no respect at ESPN. I hope he uses this as a motivation tool and works out like a madman again this offseason. He's no #34, but solid and more productive than others that ESPN's experts picked. And btw, just returned from 5 days of liquid diet golfing and night clubbing in Myrtle Beach SC, and only lost my new 4G Android phone and 9 iron. Man, its hard to wash off that stripper glitter from your face in the morning.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    to top that shit off, if you watched the accompanying video you'll see mark Scrotum pick fucking Lagarret Blount(seriously, no shit) as his top 'not on this list

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Herm picked him only because he's a Lovie buddy.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    Last night to get your brackets in, guys...
    http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1/register/joinprivategroup_assign_team?GID=170717&P=dbb

    PW: DBB

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hey man can you explain that shizznit to me? I joined but what in thee fuck do i do?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    create a bracket, and then just start clicking on who you think will win in each round...

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    You gotta give your bracket a name for some god forsaken reason. Then just click on the team you pick to win each mathchup.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Your typo could not have been more apropos.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    BAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHA!!!

    Nice catch MBP... it's only missing one 'm' to make it perfect.

    Sorry Doc, but that was too easy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    mathchup? Whaaaa? Is that like calculus with ketchup on it? mmmmmmmm....calculus with ketchup on it (drool drool).

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    math chu M p

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    My two year old loves ketchup.
    And she loves apples.
    So naturally, apple slices dipped in ketchup are "num, num, sooooooo goood!"

    I'm glad they grow tastebuds eventually.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    THAT is disgusting.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I was a big ketchup fan before I discovered the joys of hot sauce. Ketchup on cottage cheese was my weirdest combo.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I used to eat everything with mustard. Cottage cheese and mustard was a favorite. I still like a little Heinz 57 mixed in my cottage cheese.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    At one point, I put lemon pepper on everything. I even used to eat lemmon pepper sandwiches - two pieces of bread, a healthy dose of lemon pepper in the middle.
    And lemon pepper goes really well with cottage cheese too.
    I think it may be the cottage cheese that goes well with everything.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Hey Guys. Over-under on how many more times Johnny Waffle gets pissed and takes off?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I'm here for the long haul boys. It will start getting good as the draft approaches so i don't want to miss anything over stupid shit. I can't wait to see who we draft and who we pick up in free agency. Rodgers played well this past season but that helmet can't save him forever. Peppers will find him. I had a dream about it last night. I also dreamt i was starring in a futuristic action movie with LL Cool J and my buddy Dave. Both will happen in the near future.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    If the competition committee passes the rule that you cant hit the QB if he is in the process of throwing, Rodgers wont need a helmet.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Is that for real Murph? I hope you're kidding on that one or I might have to be done with the NFL forever. how could the game even be played like that?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Not to be an Illini homer, but I would not be upset at all if we ended up with Leshoure or Liuget at 29. They are both impact players.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0317-bears-chicago--20110316,0,2308523.story

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Yup, I read that too (I really need a life lol)

    Liuget is esp interesting because he may fall in the draft due to his smallish size. Many 3-4 teams may pass him up based soley on that.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I remember him from the Missouri game - I think he'd fit us just fine.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I was bored and looking at mock drafts today.

    Here's an interesting excerpt for those who want a position beside olineman with our second pick from ole Mel Helmet Head Kiper:

    "Q: What do you think about Greg little for the bears 2nd or 3rd, fills a need and a high upside guy

    Kiper:Little has a huge upside. The problem is he didn't play this year and is coming off a year of inactivity. I thought he showed second round ability in his college career. One of the toughest WR you'll find. Tough kid, former RB. At the combine, he was 6-2, 230. He did 27 reps, making him the strongest WR. He ran a 4.54, 40.5 vertical. His size/speed/strength ratio could make an argument that he's the most impressive WR in the draft. I think he goes in the second round."

    More possible second round WRs:

    Kiper: "Titus Young's a second round pick. I mentioned Little. Guys in the Day 2 mix: Jon Baldwin, Pitt; Randall Cobb, Kentucky; Tandon Doss, Indiana; Edmund Gates, Abilene Christian; Leonard Hankerson, Miami; Jerrel Jernigan, Troy; Torrey Smith, Maryland."

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Hey, it's St. Patricks Day -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IooPBuFoJCM

    I'm only 1/4 poor protestant Irish but damn what a great holiday (sauerkraut runs thicker than guiness in my family).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    1/4 is better than none.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm half. I always asked the girls if they'd like a little Irish in them. They always seemed impressed as they walked away in disgust.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Ive personally made several of them Irish by injection. Canada,did ya have any takers on that line?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Not directly but you could always tell the ones that weren't fundamentally opposed to the idea if I cleaned up my act.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Very interesting item: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Could-Babin-be-the-first-of-many-to-jump-leagues?urn=nfl-wp292

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i can't see many dudes playing in the UFL and risk getting injured and possibly losing millions once the NFL goes back to work. I can see some fringe guys doing it because 80,000 to them is alot whereas I think Peppers has an 80,000 cat.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.catlovertalaga.com/2009/03/most-expensive-cat-in-world.html

    This cat is only 40,000 but Peppers' cat also has a 40,000 canary yellow bezzeled rolex on it's left paw...for a total of 80,000 USD.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Vajazzled Rolex?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    ha! you can tell i don't own anything with the bezel. "canary yellow diamond bezeled".

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    joke just registered in brain.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm too dense to get that joke. However, the most expensive dog in the world is worth 1.5 million, thus ending the long heated debates about which is superior, a cat or a dog. As Colbert would say, the free market has spoken.

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42128943/ns/today-today_pets_and_animals/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Rumor Mill:

    I will puke if this is the case but here it goes. Word has it that
    Jerry is looking at a Northwest Missouri State cornerback. He was a division 2 all american.

    Fucking stop it Jerry.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/03/northwest-missouri-st-corner-to-visit-with-bears.html

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    oh, yeah. That's Jerry's #1, rd 1 pick right there.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They are talking he is a late round pick, the ones JA seems to excel at. Be real nice to pick up a quality starter in say, the fifth round?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Agree murph, unfortunately ja will take him in rd 2 or 3 and think he's a genius for stealing him away.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hester gets the short end of the rule changes:
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/25326/new-kickoff-rules-and-the-nfc-north

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    What's the deal with changing chicks' passports ? There's a drug that can do that, really?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    There sure is Irish

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish sighting.

    Where in thee fuck have you been son?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I think optimism in the face of uncertainty is a good thing. Cool that Da Bloggers are still talkin' game, players, draft picks.

    I can't do it though. I'm certainly hopeful that this thing is going to clear up, but bluntly, I couldn't care less who anyone is looking at for any position. I don't care that some players want the draft disrupted, and I don't give a shit about Pro Days.

    What chaps my ass, and will continue to do so, is that 2 groups of grown men, educated and at least theoretically motivated men, couldn't work out an agreement before decertification and a lockout.

    That is genuine bullshit. Both groups are equally guilty of giving every fan in the world doubt that there will even be a 2011 season of any real meaning.

    So hat's off to y'all, and I mean that sincerely. I just don't have it in me to care about one single bit of it right now, so I'll let calmer heads than mine carry my water a while.

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    To both sides that was an artificial deadline. The real one is this summer when it looks like they might miss some games/paychecks.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yeah, I hear ya. And, I know negotiations like this all wind up with finger-pointing, etc.

    I just think they could have wrapped this up ages ago. To hear the NFL talk, they offered the moon to a bunch of unappreciative lawyers that just want to make a name for themselves.

    To hear the players talk, the NFL owners are all evil.

    It's ridiculous, to me.

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/17/goodell-sends-letter-to-players-regarding-nfls-most-recent-offer/

    "Goodell then summarizes the key elements of the proposal: maximum salary and benefits per team of $141 million per club in 2011, with maximum salary and benefits per team of $161 million in 2014; free agency for players with four or more accrued season; reduced draft-choice compensation for restricted free agents; extensive changes in offseason workouts; reduction of preseason and regular-season padded practices; increased days off; retention of the 16-game season through 2012 with no change to 18 games without the players

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Counter-offer noted...

    "I've told my guys to take the letter and set it on fire. We're not that stupid," said Seattle Seahawks guard Chester Pitts, whose reaction was relayed by NFLPA assistant executive director George Atallah.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/17/goodell.email.ap/index.html#ixzz1GubLtalW

  • In reply to Sdwat52:

    Nice to see the spirit of negotiation is alive and well. Seems like Pimphat has everyone poisoned against any sort of further negotiation and the Owners fucked around too much in the beginning which made everything worse.

    Kiss and make up soon guys so we can begin the march to the big dance.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    To put things in perspective, I looked up Larry Fitzgerald's combine #s to compare to Greg Little's.

    "This is from today's workout at Pittsburgh's Pro Day: (2004)

    Height-6-3 1/8

    Weight-221 lbs.

    40 times-1st run-4.51 and 2nd run-4.47 (some clocked him at 4.63 elsewhere)

    Bench reps (225 lbs.)-20 reps

    Vertical jump-35 inches"

    So, at least on paper, this Little guy is about as big and fast, only he's stronger, and jumps higher than Fitzgerald! How 'bout "production", a discerning man may ask...

    Fitzgerald's production his last year in college:

    Rec Rec Yds Rec Avg Rec Tds
    92 1672 18.2 22

    Unfortunately, Little, like his fellow teammates, Quinn and Austin, was suspended his last year, and before that he was a converted RBs in a run-heavy offense, so it's hard to compare production.

    So, I looked up "The Freak" (isn't that what they called Peppers?) on Youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKB-KIQMg4

    Looks pretty damn good to me. Only knocks on him - since he's a converted RB, he still has a lot to learn about route running and all the other WR nuances, although many observers say he has naturally soft hands. But the way I see it, worst comes to worst, we got another 230 pound, strong slasher for short yardage (finally), who can also catch the ball out of the back-field. If we had to choose a WR in the second, this guy may get my vote.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    "The Freak" was Javon Kearse

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    oh yeah. He was a freak, then he got injured. He's like the Bob Sanders of defensive ends.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    NFL and Roger godell and his dumbasses who surround him are seriously killing the way football was meant to and should be played! I fucking hate this shit! SERIOUSLY someone needs to kidnapped that fucker.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    RIP NATE DOG! No more G FUNK

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    I never argued much about Forte being elite because he's not flashy and didn't break many tackles. I've always liked him but understood the criticism. After the bye week last year, Lovie teabagged Martz and made him run the fucking ball. Forte was surely top 10 in the stretch. I wouldn't trade him for a few of the guys on the list.

  • In reply to GuinnessPlease:

    I'm bettin that stripper is talkin on a new 4G Android as I type this!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Do they have an app for making it rain?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Can I make my bracket picks later today? I gotta work early.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    First game starts at 11am CST, so not sure if you're gonna make the cut off.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I had Penn st. and Louisville winning two games. Not good.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Marinelli and ruskell had a good look at some guys at the illinois pro day.

    Mikel Leshoure, 6'0, 230, RB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVgFcPDMQLQ

    Corey liuget DT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlprPUyKL8M

    Martez Wilson 6-4 / 250, LB : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHEqRiHAIV0

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    BWAHAAHAAHHAAA....nice murph

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I'm collectively bargained out after the whole Wisconsin situation. Let's all take a chill pill. I'm not gonna get pissed about the NFL bargaining until games are missed. Until then, who gives a fuck. I used to help facilitate the buzz one of these guys got...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhedKAhHqK8&feature=related
    Doc, I know your in the Pacific Northwest, but I'll take the Pepsi challenge any time regarding smokey treats.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Not sure I getcha bro?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Douche clean up on aisle three.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    You're supposed to wait until you get home to use personal hygiene products like that.

    Sincerely,

    January 23rd 2011

  • In reply to January23rd2011:

    i'll bite, sorry Dave!

    Jan 23rd hold significance for several reasons. The one that i am most proud of is that it most likely represented your coming out party. you were so overjoyed at the solid performance of your team that you just couldn't hold it in anymore. The emotions were too high. You proudly proclaimed:
    I love Aaron Rodgers and would gladly accept his penis into my mouth. I have held these feelings in way too long. I love to eat cock and even though I don't put intelligent or witty thoughts together too often I am looking for a man that can help me develop that skill...and to plunder my gay ass while i watch slow motion videos of Aaron Rodgers talking and smiling in various interviews.

    I personally am happy for you that the Packers won the super bowl. They had a hell of a season and deserved it. I was frustrated that we didn't win but I will tell you one thing for sure that would have happened if we did. You wouldn't see any of us on Packer blogs talking shit because that is the mark of a guy who never played the game in any meaningful fashion. Take your great season and talented QB and use it as a springboard of momentum to help you become less of a tool.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Here's an article written by 23. It's funny.
    http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,11150/

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    love the onion

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    what a spring break...

    Tiger Blood.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    You take sports & rivalry WAY TOO serious. You need to take a step back & really look at yourself. I'm being serious.

    Did my posts in this thread deserve such a psychotic response from you? That fact that you were dead serious makes your post that much more scarier.

    You need help. I hope you do whats best for you & get it some.

    Sincerely,

    January 23rd 2011

  • In reply to January23rd2011:

    troll, what kind of response would you like me to give you? your presence on this blog is not welcome and your posts consist of nothing but phrases and comments typed for the sole purpose of pissing people off. Am i wrong? That is one of the reasons that people call you a troll. A troll lurks on the internet and uses the shield of anonymity to be a dork and a nuisance. If you actually talked football you'd actually be welcome here, or at the very least less reviled. If you brought value and stopped acting like a bitch I'd be more than happy to have you stick around but you've never shown that ability hence people including myself becoming fed up with your 15yr old bullshit.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    even your screen name is meant to piss people off. unbelievable.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Is there a way to delete previous posts? Good bass on this song...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEvUdrFAeqI
    Always keep a sapphire in your mind.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We have one in Tampa called Mugs and Jugs.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    MUGS and JUGS! fucken hilarious!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Lame.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    How long til the flags get put on the uniforms?

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Yeah, I read that - stupid. AND it puts us at a disadvantage since we have great returners!

    Maybe they shouldn't let diabetics play either, for "safety reasons." Oh, and linebackers whose last name ends in -acher.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    its dying Ghost.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjLI1J5ITYI

    Irish, wtf dude??!!?

    You gotta ball-check every chick you meet in that joint huh? Damn, what a hassle. No thanks on the crying game surpise... jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nothing like finding the girl with something extra. YIKES! Usually you can tell but with bad lighting and a pile of drinks/drugs, poor choices happen. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Oh there's something REALLY wrong with that!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Good One!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    When I went to school in Madison, there were a lot of cross-dressers and trannys. A friend worked at a high scale lingerie place and about half her sales to were those types. Lots of crazy people in that city.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man, that reminds me of this time I was at a strip bar in T.J. and some army guy (he was completely wasted) was getting a lap dance by a very convincing tranny. I was like, "Man, I feel like warning this dude," But hell, maybe he knew, and was into it. If not, he would find out before the night was over lol

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    36 club member in 3 months here....my son just turned one...this is when time starts flying i guess huh?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I can actually feel the blog dying with every passing day.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Stay away from the light, Doc.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I look at it this way Doc, I come here because I love the Bears but I also come here because there are really some great conversations had by some pretty decent people. I don't know anyone personally on here but being part of this and reading constantly I feel like I know some of you guys now. There will be football again and i'm positive these greedy pricks are going to see that they are not only going to hurt themselves but the people that pay their damn salaries. Common sense alone tells me they have to get something done before even missing one pay day. Maybe I'm just a silly dreamer though. Anyways this blog will be here for a long time to come unless jeff decides he's sick of us.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    You may say he's a dreamer... but he's not the only one... hope some day you'll join us... where the Bears will have won!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks GP. Now it's stuck in my head and I'll be singing that all day.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Would something from THE BALLAD OF JOHN AND YOKE be more apropos at this time...?

    "Christ you know it ain't easy,
    You know how hard it can be.
    The way things are going
    They're gonna crucify me."

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Life is turning into a Kurt Vonnegut novel.

    'More Japanese homes washed away today, I was drafted into a league that barely exists by a union that doesn't exist. They told me not to go to the draft. I don't know if I will be allowed to play on any stage, in any way. And so it goes.'

  • In reply to jbenton:

    My point was really just that traffic has really slowed down on here. Seemed busier last offseason.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    it's not over till we say it's over Doc.

    ...was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I think people are soured on the situation and don't want to think about it. I noticed it too Doc, but I'm hoping it's just a fact of people being busy and not the blog dying.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Off topic, but here's the craziest footage I've seen from the tsunami. The power of nature.
    http://gawker.com/#!5781528/street+level-footage-of-a-japanese-town-washing-away

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    wow, that's crazy. Scary, tragic, terrible.

    The one thing that struck me as totally amazing in the vid is that... shit floats. And floats really well.... cars, houses, pretty much everything. Cars especially.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That is a wild video. The end when the dust storms go up, it gets really wild.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well, I don't know about being an uncompassionate right-winger, or whatever Jeff said, but I've been following this pretty hard for the last three or four weeks and I'm of the opinion that the NFLPA is slightly greedier than the NFL.

    I was not in favor of a lot of what the league was proposing, especially the 18 game season. I was with the union in demanding player benefits, former-player benefits, medical research, etc. I think it's pretty evident now that the now decertified players union had NO intention of ever cooperating and getting a deal hammered out before it went to court.

    David Haugh's column in the Trib yesterday or the day before was the best thing I've read so far in condensing the entire affair and pointing out the real culprit (De Smith) in keeping the union and the league from working together.

    I just read something that Adrian Peterson referred to playing in the NFL as "modern-day slavery." I'd love to be a slave on Peterson's meager salary.

    Shut up and let's play some goddamn football, guys!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Easy peasy question for you then.

    Why did the owners lock out? They could have kept the season going, and paid out same as 2010 levels, while the whole thing was resolved as a matter of law.

    You can speculate all you want if the owners or the NFLPA bargained in good faith. What is a matter of fact is that the owners chose to lock out. To fuck the season over in favor of taking a hard line.

    Like I said, easy question.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    True, the owners did lock the players out. But only after the union decertified and launched their anti-trust lawsuit against the league. I'm not saying the league is blameless...and I certainly don't believe the league has the fans' interest at heart. I just don't think the union ever intended to seriously negotiate.

    They can and will get the best deal in court.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    It's like when pilots are told that their union has to take a pay cut to keep the airline afloat, even though the execs have huge perks and salaries and any serious examination of the books reveals that pilot salaries are not where the fat is.

    There was nothing really wrong with the NFL as it stood. The players weren't asking for more pie. This isn't a strike. Let's not treat it like one.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I agree - I'm pissed that negotiations were ended, but the original impetus for the negotiations was OWNERSHIP, not the players.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I see fault with both parties but I think I may agree with Ghost on this one. I look at it as the owners were the ones smart enough to become gazillionaires and buy these teams(or in the case of the McCaskey's be handed the team by a brilliant parent)so don't they have the right to make a huge profit from a cash cow like the NFL. I would say the players have a beef if they are under paid and they do have a beef about the benefits following their playing careers but it seems the owners were caving on that item. Both sides have faults but I think the players are being excessively greedy. You take the risk in starting a business and you deserve the rewards that come with it.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I never knew I had so much in common with Cincinati, and nick Lackey (for christ skake)... but after reading this I KNOW I do (cept that I never got to ball Jessica): http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jimmy_traina/03/15/nick-lachey-rips-mike-brown-carson-palmer-chad-ochocinco/index.html

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    And also, a lockout doesn't mean they can't continue to bargain and conduct meeting between ownership and the NFLPA 'trade association.' I read an article earlier quoting John Mara saying that the league wants to get back to the bargaining table.

    Why don't they do that.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    The owners want it to be settled at the bargaining table because if it goes to the court of law, before the eyes of justice, the judges will give the players a whole of a lot more than what the owners want. And if congress gets involved, then they may even file an anti-trust lawsuit on them because from what I hear, the NFL is basically a monopoly that is somewhat tolerated, for now, because it generates so much income and everyone likes it.

    So the owners wanting to settle at the bargaining table is out of self-interest, not level headedness.

    It's like when a big guilty corporation or a person is threatened to be taken to court. All they want to do is settle out of court, which to me always seems fishy. Michael Jackson, Big Tobacco... settle out of court.

    That being said, I hope that they can come to a reasonable compromise, but it all hinges on the owners opening up their books. That's the deal breaker in the eyes of the NFLPA. If The owners are bleeding money like they claim, they should just open the books up and prove it. That would shut the NFLPA up quick, and make them appear "greedy" then a deal would get done promptly.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Anybody up for a Yahoo NCAA bracket competition? DBB only....

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Oh hell yes!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm in if we get enough people.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    See my link downthread...

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    thought you guys might find this entertaining... from the B&B show: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/tournament-of-bad/

    Couple funny ones on there like, "Caleb Hanie's mustache" and "Dez Clark's long-snaping".

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    wow

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    This is the worst one I have seen. Mother Nature can bitch slap us at any time and we are basically helpless.

    http://abcnews.go.com/gma/video/heart-disaster-13122289&tab=9482931§ion=1206828

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well, I think I've covered exactly where I stand in this issue, and any more arguing over the points I think will be pointless. It's like the O.J. trial, some will be on one camp, some in another, and no amount of logic will persuade either side to cross.

    I still think 2011 will have an NFL season, but there might be a game or two that are canceled (barring cosmically stupid stunts by either side, like keeping prospects from the draft). That's what I'm preparing for in my mind, so anything better than that scenario that transpires will be gravy. In the famous words of Larry, "Get er done!"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff, on a side note, I like what that you're expanding. I recently watched a special on Wide World of Sports (The thrill of victory, The agony of defeat!), and found it very fascinating how they went out into the world to discover more obscure sports and present them in a dramatic fashion, like the time an "athlete" was going for the "chair-jumping" record.

    Anyhow, I've been meaning to go to this thing called "Lucha Libre VaVoom" http://luchavavoom.com/ and all chick rollerderby http://derbydolls.com/la - if I go, maybe I'll write you something up and send it your way.

  • What really sucks about this whole situation is that the only people with no say in what happens, are the folks who make the NFL possible. The fans. The poor schmucks who pony up big bucks for game tickets, Sunday Ticket subscriptions, team mercandise, etc. The people who every day show up with a great deal of heartfelt interest, support, and love for the game.

    We have no power. We have no way to influence this at all. Sure, I won't watch any "scab" games, and will hold off buying Sunday Ticket until 'real" NFL games are played again, but the loss of NFL football for even one game will be felt only by the fans. At the end of the day, the Millionaires and Billionaires will have their bucks and we (the fans) will all be screwed, again.

  • Jeff, seems like your website covers all of the "other sports" that do get media coverage, but are regarded as second tier (not sure why golf is on the list, it has its own channel). If you want really cover what else is out there, how about...
    (1) LaCrosse - there's a budding interest over the last 5-10 years and a pro league trying to get its legs.
    (2) Volleyball - Especially beach volleyball, is huge on the west coast and a popular college sport without sufficient professional push.
    (3) Billiards - Pool, darts, bowling and some of the other "fat guy" sports are actually pretty fun to watch.
    (4) Tennis - Certainly gets less coverage than golf.
    (5) Roller Derby - Lots of fun... though arguably not a full fledged sport.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Rugby
    Aussie rules
    Okee noodlin'

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Well they all have their own channels.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    on;y if yer willin' to pay for um

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Not sure what this means or how much it's worth, but: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/13/sunday.lockout.update.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Verbal promises aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

    Nobody is going to say there won't be a season, what do you think a statement like that from one side would do to public opinion?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff the picture is great. It really takes me back. As in, I'm a kid just home from school, fixed myself a bowl of cereal and turned on the TV. Cue music..."Life is like a hurricane here in Duckburg."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMU2NwaaXEA

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't want to think about no football next season. One way or another, I'm with Jeff, I could care less about what is agreed upon or not. JUST GIVE US OUR FOOTBALL.

    I wish the owners and player association would actually discuss something that would really matter, like healthcare for retired players, etc.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    Exactly...though i still get the feeling that weirdo DeMaurice Smith has his own agenda and own sense of grandiosity...just can't place my finger on it, but MAN i DO NOT like that guy at all whatsoever. I think HE is the sticking point in these negotiations...I agree with Shonbear above, employees don't get access to ALL the books just because they want a raise. But weirdo pimp-hat wearing DeMaurice Smith in his arrogance has made it his personal vendetta to get all the books opened, anything less is a failure. I haven't liked the guy since they named him the new head of nflpa, always had bad vibes that he's not a negotiater, he justs hands out ultimatums with no compromise. Screw that guy. Beardown!!

  • In reply to tedtaxon:

    He bears a striking resemblance to Cee Lo Green.

    And his theme song also appears to be "F*ck You...NFL Fans".
    So...just saying.

  • In reply to tedtaxon:

    I had the same vibes about Smith. I figured he would get in the way of resolving this issue.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Now the NFLPA is telling the top 15-20 draftees not to show up come draft day. Imagine the commissioner coming up and announcing the top picks and no one coming to the podium. Another way to piss off us fans and alienate us even more. Not to mention taking away the experience of a lifetime for some of these young football players. Way to go NFLPA.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Yes that is completely ridiculous. I agree with you on all points there. Why in the hell are these kids being told to miss out on this once in a lifetime event? Because weirdo pimphat smith is an arrogant prick. These kids aren't even part of the NFLPA yet for cryin out loud! No need to assert your "power" on a bunch of kids entering the draft. And really what the heck is he trying to prove? Ridiculous.

  • In reply to tedtaxon:

    None of the players are part of the NFLPA right now.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    I'm sure that suggestion is getting the consideration it is due...all five seconds of it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you all get your heartfelt "Lockout Letter" from Roger?

    Dear NFL Fan,

    When I wrote to you last on behalf of the NFL, we promised you that we would work tirelessly to find a collectively bargained solution to our differences with the players' union. Subsequent to that letter to you, we agreed that the fastest way to a fair agreement was for everyone to work together through a mediation process. For the last three weeks I have personally attended every session of mediation, which is a process our clubs sincerely believe in.

    Unfortunately, I have to tell you that earlier today the players' union walked away from mediation and collective bargaining and has initiated litigation against the clubs. In an effort to get a fair agreement now, our clubs offered a deal today that was, among other things, designed to have no adverse financial impact on veteran players in the early years, and would have met the players

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OMG, they were working tireless hours in some plush hotel banquet facility, getting first rate food, drinks, and sleeping arrangements paid for with the fans ticket dollars....well boo hoo hoo! I say lock 'em in the fucking room with wood chairs and tables, no air conditioning, microwave, instant coffee..water..and freeze dried survival redi made meals, a bathroom with only 1 shitter and a sink. They don't come out until a deal is struck.
    And to show I am not totally cold hearted, every evenings entertainment will be a slideshow of Joan Rivers...NAKED!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    darren sharpah, HOLD MAH DIIIIIIIIICCKKKK

  • In reply to mottystone:

    1) LaCrosse looks fun, but it's hard for me to let go of the image that it's a "gentlemen's game" - like Polo, Cricket, and Fox Hunting.

    2) Volleyball is a fun sport to watch and play. Esp beach volleyball. True, most of those volleyball chicks are amazonian, but they're still in a bikini!

    3)Billiards - Like Golf, darts, seeing who can hold his breath longest, I just can't watch this "sport". There needs to be an element of chance and danger. Maybe one of the balls, no one knows which, explodes after a certain amount of hits or something.

    4)Tennis - like Soccer, not entirely boring to watch.

    6)Roller Derby! and Crash Derby! I could get into those.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    lol... Roller Derby is not a sport, but *billiards and darts* are!?! Too much!!

  • Good to see you're branching out there, Jefe. Hope it goes well for ya!

    To me, it's easy. Fuck 'em all.

  • Since half the players are not all that smart with their money, making mass purchases for family and friends, buying air conditioned dog houses and what-not a lock out will hurt them soon enough and they will cross.

    I don't think one of my employees should have the right to look at my books just so he can ask for a raise, maybe a portion, but not everything. On that point I side with the owners, on the safety issue, veteran pay, 18 game season and rookie salaries I side with the players.

    bottom line get it done.

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