Lovie's Extension Does Not Cool Hot Seat

Some fans have written their protest songs about the contract extension given to Lovie Smith by Jerry Angelo and the Chicago Bears.  Some believe we have entered into a deal with the world's most boring devil - a devil that has no concept of game management or the correct use of challenge flags.  Some believe the surprising 2010 campaign, capped off with a trip to the NFC title game, had nothing to do with the head coach from Big Sandy, Texas. 

Here's the truth.  Most sports fans are impetuous, thoughtless morons.  Just listen to a local call-in radio show for three or four hours and you'll find yourself asking questions like, "Did that guy really wait on hold for an hour to say the Jets should try onside kicking more?"  Fans, for the most part, don't have any idea what's actually taking place on the playing field.  That requires some reading, some careful viewing, speaking to and listening to people who know much more than you.  And most folks don't have the time.
Another truth.  Most well-run NFL franchises don't allow coaches to exist on a one-year deal.  Because the sport is so system-oriented, it becomes difficult for coaches to get players to buy into a system if they don't believe the system will be there long-term.  Why learn three-technique for a defense that won't be in place in twelve months?  Lovie would have been on a his final year in 2011.  The Bears would not allow that.  So they gave him an extension.  A one-year extension would have been transparently cosmetic.  They gave him two.
If Lovie Smith fails next season, especially if the Bears spend more money this offseason, he'll be fired.  I don't doubt that for a moment.  This contract is not so much a reward for good work as another opportunity for Smith to find consistency.  His career in Chicago has been successful, without question, but it has not been consistent.  The Bears believe the program has turned the corner and now Lovie must prove that it has.  But make no mistake about it: Lovie Smith is coaching for his life again in 2011.

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  • In reply to jmcyclone:

    damn you cyclone

  • In reply to jmcyclone:

    I agree with the extension. We didn't need to restructure because he was just meeting the expectations of the contract. Now if we miss the playoffs 4 straight years again and the Big Boring is still in town, we will have issues. I want to see J.A.'s draft before we decide if it's time to extend him. I have more issues with JA than with Lovie.

  • Tommie, Hunter, and Schaffer got cut.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6167421

    o. and FIRST!!! b-day countdown in 6 days

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I believe this is a step in the right direction. However, it also just about guarantees we take a DT with our first pick.
    Kind of like the Paula Abdul video ~ with the animated cat.

  • In reply to Church:

    well...not necessarily. somehow, i think angelo is going to do the right thing (now this is a VERY slim outlook, but if he cut Tommie, that's saying a LOT). one thing i'm noticing about this past year i haven't seen in a long time: accountability from the front office. they're holding players accountable and making sure there are penalties for sub-par play. you don't play well...that's fine...you'll just be playing for another team. LOVE that attitude.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Good points, I hope you are correct.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Agree 100% FQ, BUT...

    As we've seen with JA in the past... that guarantees nada, zip, zilch, zero.

    This draft (and if he doesn't fuck it up, the next one) will go a long way to proving me out, or proving out the likes of Viva. Hey, where is viva - I'm still waiting viva!

    I personally think JA screws the poop yet again. I thin he KNOWS his back is up against a wall, I think he KNOWS we need the first 3-4 rds to be Oline (for christ sake we have guys who can play and our dline is better than average already), but I think he simply can't help himself when he sees something he likes.

    I think he goes in with all intentions to sure up the oline, but when it gets to our spot maybe if one of the initially top 10 DEs has fallen he can't help himself and he grabs him. Tommie take 2!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, Tommie was a bad motherfucker until he hamstring got ripped from the bone and Columbo dislocated his kneecap with a leg whip. Jusss sayin.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    yeah I know Johnny... we should have cut his ass loose the SECOND year he ceased to be anything that resembled that.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    In the first round, the Bears need to get an OL who can start right away and who PROVED himself in college. We don't need some "athlete" with upside, someone who shows "signs" of greatness but takes plays off, someone with injury concerns or character issues, just a solid starter. A hard worker who knows how to play football and plays with heart and desire. He doesn't have to be great, just good (Keith Van Horn comes to mind). Guard or tackle, I don't care. If they do go DT in the first, it better be OL in round 2 and 3.
    The combine is so over-rated. Many of these physical "specimens" drafted in the first round end up sucking in the pros. Their college numbers don't reflect where they are drafted. They show signs of brilliance in college, but take too many plays off, don't work hard or have character issues, have lingering injuries,or don't have the intensity or football instincts. Let's get 2-3 solid contributors this year.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Did someone say MOOOONSHINE?

    http://www.uncrate.com/men/culture/drinks/midnight-moon-moonshine/

    You need a smart Gm to find more than one luck-job per draft. So yeah, let's see how it works out for us. I'll be crossing my fingers like the rest of you.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Which coach besides McCarthy and Tomlin are NOT on the hot seat?
    Lovie got rewarded for his 11 & 5 regular season wins and for getting to the NFC Championship game. Way back in September lots of male negative bloggers projected the Bears to win or 7 games...where are they now? Eating humble pie of course.
    Congrats to Lovie on his well-deserved contract extention, end of story complainers. Start looking at the bright side of life...

  • In reply to Jeanne1:

    that was your first post ever, really? You're a woman obviously (why mention male blogers specifically?). That's what you bring? Plenty of coaches.

    Where's support for your weak and heavily subjective high-level argument? Bright side? This isn't a story about an orphan finding a family on oprah, this is professional football.

    Common, you can do better... much better than that. What was your point at least?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    hey hey...i'm down the woman movement (what's the name of their organization again)? Women of America or some shit?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Womens movement = move your ass into the kitchen and make my dinner. That's a joke SJVL so don't get pissed.

  • In reply to Jeanne1:

    Newsflash - our offense sucks balls ... and GB kicked our asses in Soldier Field for the NFC title. All Bear fans are eating humble pie.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Getting your ass kicked and getting beaten are two different animals, Irish.
    We got beat.
    We will get better this offseason.
    We will get revenge next year.
    Being relentlessly negative about the season all year long has got to burn a hole in your stomach lining.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I like your points here MBP. We were competitive every game with them. Given our struggles all year with our porous o-line and a d-line that only produced on the edges I see a lot of room for improvement that is attainable. The only scary thing to me is that filling the voids is dependent on Angelo.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Agreed - but I think it can be done this year if we get the chance (CBA).
    The holes we have are relatively easy ones to fill; we're not hunting for a franchise QB, a franchise linebacking corps, or a franchise edge rusher. We need spots that can and WILL be available via draft and FA in this offseason.
    You don't have to be faster than the bear, you just have to be faster than the other guy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We need a whole new offensive line, a DT, a DE and and three WRs. Relatively easy? You can't turn back the clock on all those blown drafts in just one go. Free Agency? Where's the money? We're not saving on two first round salaries - that cash went on Peppers. People keep bringing up the magical salving powers of FA - but look at the guy who does the signing! The Pee Wee Herman of talent evaluation ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Just because your boy Shaffer isn't in the mix anymore doesn't mean we need to redraft the whole offensive line. You keep having PTSD flashbacks to the Giants game or something...I've already run the numbers for you several times over.
    And we certainly don't need three new WRs. We need ONE wide receiver, and there's about a dozen extra nice ones available via free agency - drafting one would be a waste this year.
    You would rather we were drafting to fill RB/QB/MLB or a raft of other positions? We're in pretty good shape relative to the strengths of this particular draft.
    EVERYONE has holes on the roster by now. And everyone will spend the draft and FA trying to fill them back in.
    Can we at least get to preseason before people begin predicting armageddon again?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, we don't need a DT or a DE. We have several players that played on one of the better defenses in the league. It would be a luxury to have even better players but not a necessity. We have 3 solid tightends one of which runs a 4.5 and is essentially a wide out that is learning how to run block. We have a great possession receiver and two burners that have trouble getting open in traffic. I'd say we need 1 wide receiver and some intelligent routes for the other guys to run that fit their skill sets.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I got a bad feeling we are drafting Tommie's replacement in the first round....It just seems like the writing is on the wall. I hope I'm wrong, but I just have a feeling. If we pass on Pouncey and take a d tackle in round 1 I will be joining MB on his quest for Angelo's noggin.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Read up Coach... I said exact that. Angelo simply can't help himself... he knows he NEEDS to draft a badass OL in Rd1, but when it comes time for him to make the pick, he just may not be able to help himself. Like, you I hope not... but history is history. I'm nervous.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not so sure I agree with a giant caveat. IF we go after a couple of stud OL in free agency, then I'm fine with drafting a DT first round IF he's a stud, not a project.
    I'm convinced Ingram is going to fall to us.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    respectfully disagree MBP. A lot would have to come together for jerry to make those two line up perfectly. Just don't think the guy can get something like that done.

    So tired of Rd 4-7 projects and shitty rd 1-2 picks. We need a 'known' pick in rd one. I totally agree we need to pick up a stud in FA, but you build through the draft, and we need to start building NOW. rd 1-3 Oline AND a bigass solid top-of-the-list FA olineman, then go get a DL stud in rd 4. We have at the very least a serviceable dline (yes, it can certainly get much better with another peppers like bookend of fat plug in the middle), but it's not in a shambles like the oline. I say focus on O for once at the detriment of D. It will be worth it... IF Tice makes the pick and not jerry.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did Tice get any more authority when he re signed a new deal?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This would be the best money we could spend this off-season. Cutler's head.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0228-bears-brite--20110227,0,5470447.story

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Maybe the best money Cutler can spend too. He'll get extended at this rate, but he'll take a paycut at the end of this contract if his numbers don't improve. That's not saying he isn't a solid QB and that I'm not happy he's leading my team. I'm just saying the guy is paid like a top 5 QB (even if there are 7 or 8 top 5s), but he doesn't play like one yet.

    Yet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bye Tommie! Thanks for the good years! Anyways hey look I don't give a shit who Angelo drafts in the first, as long as he fuckin becomes a ln all star! I'm putting my money on a DT in the first round

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    An all-star! Effin iPhone spellcheck

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aww shit where is Trac

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Chris Williams was a "known pick". The draft is always a crap shoot.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Butter in a nut shell:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3IQTjOMewg&feature=related

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Cold, lobo. But funny.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    OUCH!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I felt he would too - and given the depth at the position in the draft, you could hardly blame him if he went with a guy who was a solid starter one day at DT. Our OL is toast and there are no quick fixes anyway. We could still go Tackle rd 2 and G/C rd 3 if we go DL in the 1st.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The big question mark is going to be "who's left" when the draft gets to us. We're not in the top half of the first round, not even in the top two thirds. We can't go OL out of desperation if all the first round OL talent is already gone. Especially LT, it is very likely that we will stuck without a good prospect if a couple of other things fall into place and 5-6 teams all pick tackle earlier in the draft. As for G/C, there are maybe two guys worth a first round pick in that spot.

    So that means if 8/28 teams pick O-line, we're stuck. Since O-line is basically one fourth of a team (excluding specialists), and high picks tend to skew toward the lines, I could very much see that happening.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I went and saw James Cotton and Johnny Winter on a double bill Saturday night. Big Fun! James has a great band and Johnny looked the healthiest I've ever seen (and that's going back to the early '70's). A little off topic but I thought a couple of posters might get a kick out of it.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Sounds like a good show. Not familiar with Cotton, gotta check him out. I saw Johnny Winter two years ago at the Warren Haynes xmas jam. He could barely walk and looked on the verge of death, but still put on a decent show. It was just a little too slow for the occasion, but he still had some kickass moments jamming with Warren and Ben Harper. John Paul Jones jammed with Mule for abut 1.5 hrs to end a ten hour show with all Zeppelin. They gave no quarter.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Nice

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Owners lose their "lockout insurance."

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/03/01/union.owners.tv.revenue/index.html?hpt=T2

    This is a good thing for fans because it increases the liklihood of the owners wanting to come to the table. The players arguably have better insurance themselves now, but I think the effect will be more marginal.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I see how you did that. Sounds like a good show.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Cotton was Muddy Waters harmonica player after Little Walter left the band. He used to sing but his voice is barely above a whisper now. His music in the 60's-80's was uptempo Blues with great harmonica, strong voice (more of a shouter than a crooner), kick ass band with a sax, trumpet, 1-2 guitars, keyboards, bass and drums.

    Man that show you were at had some serious guitar action! Johnny walked out with that little Headless Lazer guitar and wailed away. After about an hour he broke out that big Gibson that he always does all the slide. He was walking around a little bit with that on. The last few times I've seen him he was so feeble I was sure that would be the last time I would see him. He's totally drug free for the first time in forever. He's off the methadone and I think he even quit tobacco. He seemed happy and healthy.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I have seen JW about 10 times over the past 35 years or so, most recently in October 2009. Yes, he has slowed down a lot, but the man can still work a crowd.

    Check out his rendition of "I Smell Smoke" on the "I'm a Bluesman" CD. As good a blues song as you'll find IMO.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    So long Tommie, vaya con dios.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    all true. like i said: SLIM outlook.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hey FQ...

    Stop Hatin' blend your own bacon... playah!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    roflmao. that never gets old.

    finger fuck the sauce.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Exactly my man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Angela's drafting DL in the first, I can feel it in my waters ...

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Right on FQD. Accountability from players (and coaches) is why the Bears made the play-offs this year. It might be time to cut Marcus Harrison this year if he doesn't get in shape and do something.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Goodbye Tommie - too bad injuries took you down.
    Hunter, retire. Too many concussions - ur smart, it's time.
    Shaffer - part one of o-line housecleaning. The fact that he was let go so early leads me to believe that the Bears are seriously considering an FA.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I do not disagree with the need for the extentension or it's length.

    "Turned the corner?" I will reserve judgement on that.

    Too often in my lifetime this franchise has "turned the corner" right into a dead end alley or an washed out bridge.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    thank you Al. I get tired of being the pessimist (along with wrig and irish) in this mutha.

    I like to think of it more as reserved realism.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have often decribed my faith in the Bears using the "P" word, MB.

    I do like "reserved realism" though.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    As for Smith, I'm ok with him, namely because Martz is pulling the Offensive string, and Smith is a nice counter-weight to Martz' pass happy system. He can't fuck up the Oline with Tice there, can't fuck up the SP teams with Toub in place, and Marinelli is rocking the D. In other words, Lovie is limited with the coaching, but still can run the ship with no drama - almost like a camp counselor. Besides, we had little choice - what other coach would have been a much better upgrade, and what would it have meant to our continuity?

    Angelo I'm ok with too, as long as he doesn't step into the draft room in rounds 1-3 lol

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I'm more ok with the extension of Lovie than if it were an extension of Angelo. I pray he proves me wrong, in fact I'll be the first one on here singing his praises if he signs a big FA o-lineman and has a draft that even slightly addresses the needs of this team. I'd love to see one draft of his turn out some early round talent that could produce in the years to come. I pull for Angelo to do well because that means the Bears are heading in the right direction but he hasn't given us much hope lately.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    "and has a draft that even slightly addresses the needs of this team"

    ...and that right there is THE reason to get rid of the pathetic fuck right now before he has a chance with this draft (yeah, I know.. continuity blah blah). When you're ready to give the guy a tickertape parade when he doesn't completely rat-fuck yet another draft, you know he's the wrong guy. Jesus, talk about setting our bar huh?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm with you MB, but knowing this teams ownership that's not going to happen. They are under the assumption that Angelo knows what he's doing. As Bear fans we have to hope for the best though and fear the worst. It's something I'm becoming used to.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    yeah, sucks JAB. Makes me angry... as I'm sure you're aware of by now.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Tommie Harris - Let's see if he doesn't come back at half pay next season. He's still a first team level player, just not a superstar. If he comes back at $1.25 for the season, I think there will be a lot fewer complaints.

    Kevin Shaffer - Roster space move. This is good as it shows we're planning on adding some bodies in training camp.

    Hunter - I feel for the guy. But he's hurt and we'll see how much is left in the tank when he recovers. The only shame of it is that he might have been worth a draft pick if we had traded him before the injury fiasco. Might still have been worth a pick - I hope the concussion wasn't too serious that he didn't think he could pass a physical.

    Lovie - I've made my thoughts known. We could certainly do worse. But I'm looking for improvement from Lovie as much as from other players I think should stay (Cutler, Knox, Taylor, Secondary, etc.) Welcome back Lovie, now let's get back to the playoffs.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    New Bear, you really think Cutler should stay? He only will go down as the best QB the Bears ever had. Shouldn't we run him out of town now? I mean we didn't even win the fucking superbowl in his 1st year in Martz's system with shit receiving and no offensive line. We just got within 1 game of it and did better than 28 other teams. That is merely 88% of the rest of the league. How much leash are we going to give this underachieving clown?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    agreed on your points NB. I was just playing on the "should stay" part. He will keep improving. I had to vent a little because I read a quote from a "fan" that truly felt Cutler quit and that Hanie would be a better number 1 option if given the reps. I almost had a stroke. If Cutler quit then there is an underground bunker somewhere in Iraq stacked to the brim with nuclear weapons guarded by a man who is masterbating with hairy palms.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Knew I should have taken out that hairy palmed masterbater when I was over there. I wonder how he washes it out of the hair.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    with the tears of infidels JAB. simply with the tears of infidels.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That was funny. Thanks Johnny, you made me laugh. I needed that on a cold Monday.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    i'm playing hooky (sp?) so I'll be here all day. Nothing like eating ice cream, day trading stocks as if I know what i'm doing and playing Mr. Mom today with the baby.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Have fun with that. I'm gald you didn't say you were bay sitting though. It drives me nuts when my buddies will call watching their own kid baby-sitting.
    I can't get into the trading stocks myself. That damn transaction charge pisses me off. unless you're investing a good amount of money it just never seems to work out for me. I think I'd prefer to be a slum lord. Seems rental property might be the way to go right now. i just don't have the balls to pull the trigger.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Can't type today.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    I'm getting pissed at the transaction fees so i definitely wait until i'm going to invest over 1,000 at a time. I am about to call E-trade and complain to see if they will get it down to 5 or 6 per. Investment property is the way to go if you can find that perfect deal. The key is to get a business partner. A buddy with the same mindset. Get a good attorney, draw up a partnership and split the costs, risks and rewards. The next best thing is to be your own bank. If you have a couple grand it may make sense to lend out money using a structured note. A car loan can get you 5-8 percent. A 2nd mortgage can get your 7-10 percent depending on the risk.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Partnerships are always a bad idea. If you're not screwing the other guy it means you're the one getting screwed.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Worst case Lovie extension scenario is a continued strategy to fill in the gaps around our aging defensive corps. The Bears need to start drafting to buttress the emerging young talent on offense. This to me is the best argument to let Angelo go. He simply doesn't have an eye for offensive talent the way he does with defense. The troubling part about the extension is that another two years of a defensive minded GM and coach doesn't seem to match the current roster. If the Bears want to be competitive beyond the years of Lovie's contract then youth needs to take priority over FA. I don't want to be stuck in the 7th circle of Redskins/Cowboys hell. At least those owners are willing to spend money. Can you imagine a stingy McCaskey family trying to make ripples in a perpetual Free Agency Circle? Yikes!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Bears had the 10th highest payroll, the Redskins the 18th highest. http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Sports/nfl-salaries.php

    The Bears are far from cheap in the payroll department. Spending money doesnt translate to winning, as you see the Packers are 5th from the bottom.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    exactly Murph... that's been my argument all along.

    We need smart, not some dude who can see a FA everyone wants and out bid for him. Any monkey can do that. This org needs a GM with strateegery!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    But the Bears are not big on Free Agency. They prefer to overpay a couple of big names and weather the bad drafts that occur annually whilst they're leveraging all their TV money into gold.

    I hope old man Halas is in a cryo-tank somewhere.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    What I meant by that comment was that the Redskins seem content to make a big splash in free agency every year or every other year and end up overpaying aging talent. What might happen with a stingier ownership (which the McCaskey's have been until very recently) is that we end up overpaying in free agency for not so talented or even older talent. That scenario just seems to snowball out of control. You don't see teams that are successful long term employing a Free Agency First mentality.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I consider that 5th round pick of Knox as almost irrelevant. Almost. It probably slowed down our WR corps and no doubt ended any chance of Shabba remaining a Bear. Shabba is hands down a better receiver. Knox is a waste of a starting position on the outside, where we need a ball-winning receiver. You can have him, or give us all a laugh and outline how he is a future NFL star. If Knox couldn't get it together with the strongest arm in the league throwing him the ball, then I don't know if he could survive on too many teams with stats as poor as his for a supposed #1.

    Orton was the leading passer in the NFL until he got injured. The point was made about a straight swap for Orton-Cutler, I was just pointing out that wasn't the original swap.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I was only criticizing your breakdown of the trade. I don't claim that Knox is a number 1 wide receiver. We don't have one. I agree wholeheartedly with you on that.

    I DO however think that Knox has a HUGE role to play on our offense and there's a good chance he will catch for 1000 yards for several years to come if things come together correctly.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Davis and Shabba are free agents, so Knox probably will be around for some time. I don't have a problem with the guy being on the roster - he's fast - I just don't think he helps us on the outside as a starter.

    If Daryl Drake was any use I'd have high hopes for this CFL signing we made ...

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    For sure, Dan Snyder has to be the Poster Child for "Pissing Money Away".

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I shouldn't think this way but it just feels weird to me. There is a Bulls blog where guys talk Bulls all day just like this blog talks Bears. It just seems unnatural:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2011/02/rip-hamiltons-lack-of-buyout-causes-bulls-to-lose-leftovers-battle.html

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny, we need to broaden your horizons. Basketball isn't as much fun as football but after watching the Bulls blow following the Jordan era, the team this year is very fun to watch. I think part of the problem is the NBA projects such a thug mentality for its league. That just turns people off towards the sport but basketball is a great sport overall.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    basketball... you know they have a ladies league of that shit right? Yuck.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    lol you trippin' man. Bulls are tough this year.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    It's fucked up I know. I am a Jordan, Pippen, Grant, Kukoc fanatic. I still have my Jordans from 8th grade. I know the Bulls are killing it this year and having Noah back alongside Boozer and Rose is a recipe for success but I just can't get into it. I watched the Hawks on their run to the Stanley Cup and the same with the Sox. I just don't get pumped up the way I do for the Bears. Maybe I should see the doctor...and by doctor I mean Doc Nitty for some experimental tree therapy.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Damn, Waffle, are you on the HOF committee?
    How do you leave off the Worm?

    I'm with you though, I'm trying to get into the Bulls, but the NBA hasn't been my thing for about 10 years now.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    i accidentally left off Worm, Harper, Kerr, Pax, Wennington and a couple of others.

    I loved watching Jordan, Pippen, The Mitten aka Jordan before Jordan (Ronnie Harper), Kukoc or Kukov as my dad called him EVERY single time, Worm and even Luc.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Pax was my inspiration to play ball.
    I was always bitter growing up that I didn't have his jersey.
    Which reminds me, I need to get one now that I earn my own lunch money.
    Thanks, waffle!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    consider it repayment for your good deed.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    "Dad! Jebus already! It's KOO-KOCK! KOO ...KOCK ! How many times ...."
    "You owe me a thousand dollars Waffle!"

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    hee hee

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm in the same boat as many of you guys. I lost all interest in pro BB in the late 90's, and just can't get into it. Love college BB, especially Wisconsin. Bo Ryan is an incredible coach. Every year he gets middle-of-the-road prospects and develops them into good team players.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I lost touch with basketball after the seventies, and got into football. But watching the Lakers battle with the Celtics was a golden age and even as a clueless kid I knew what I was watching was special. Without Dr J there's no Kobe or MJ.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    that's what evolution is for. w/o Naismith, nobody would know what "basketball" is. or w/o Walter Camp, football wouldn't exist, so that means no Halas, Lombardi, no AFL or NFL. if Dr. J. wouldn't have done it, someone else would have. doesn't mean MJ or Kobe don't add something special to the game b/c of your nostalgia.

    personally, the 90s was the golden age. but maybe "golden age" really means "the age you were introduced to _______ and it hasn't been the same since." just a humble thought...

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    You may have a point about the golden age thing. But as far as quality of the game goes, is the game any worse now than it was in the 90's, say? I'd say no. Maybe the thuggery has increased and that has detracted from the game for some, not me though. But the NFL? I think it's basically every bit as good now as it was in the late 80's when I was becoming a fan. So what was it's golden age? I'd say probably 1974 to 1987, The Sweetness era.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm with you on the NBA Waffle. I'll watch the Blazers when they're on and follow them somewhat, but I can't get into the NBA anymore. I used to watch it all the time. Remember when the NBA had triple headers every Sunday on NBC? Now you might get one a week, the rest are on cable. Point is, The NBA has no idea how to market itself. Let the people watch if for free and it will do better. That said, it just hasn't been the same since the 90's. There's plenty of good players, just no intrigue. It's pretty much dead to me. I used to watch every playoff series I could. And games throughout the week. Now, if the Portland is not playing, I couldn't care less.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    2nd best sports blog around

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    If I'm reading New Bear right he's just saying that Cutler needs a facelift as much as Lovie (and the receiving corps) does. If we have seen the ceiling of any of those groups listed I wouldn't be a happy fan. Would you? With an improving Lion team and a Packer franchise blossoming with young talent it doesn't seem very cut and dried to me that a 2nd year in a mad Martz's science lab will produce much different of a result, but I'm still hopeful.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    i'm really confident that you will see improvement in the areas that are needed for consistent success. Only a true retard would refuse to throw the ball to Forte 10 times a game. the man doesn't drop passes and can rack up 70-100 yards per game in the air alone.

    That change alone along with the further development of the short to mid range passing game and increased use of Olson will result in more productivity from the offense from day one.

    Hanie will be 2nd string hands down and will get good reps.

    Harris, Hillenmeyer and Schaffer gone means new blood in at those positions.

    More reps for Pringles, C.Harris is healthy. Some help at O-Line maybe a FA to spice things up.

    A full offseason for Pisa to be completely healthy. We will have one of the best linebacking corps once again.

    Just a lot of good things to ponder for the next couple of months. Bear Down. Good Times ahead.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Everybody knows what I meant... I want Cutler to stay unlike the idiots that are saying "cut him, he's a quitter." I would not trade Cutler for Orton straight up, and I probably wouldn't even make the trade if I got back one of the first rounders we gave up. But with all of that said, he needs to get better. He has the tools to be elite, but he is not elite right now.

    Johnny, imagine an improved O-line with at least 2 new starters from the draft, together with Cutler, Bennett, Knox, Forte, Olsen and Sydney Rice or the like. That's a dangerous offense. Not that many changes need to be made for us to get a lot better at scoring points. We just need a few pieces and improvement from everyone. We can do that this off-season.

    I believe this Bears team can go right back to that NFC championship game. And I think Lovie can be a part of that. But everyone must improve.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    part of me thinks Knox will never have the physicality to truly gain Cutlers confidence. Please no more quick slants to Knox. I want him running in wide open space and scaring the shit out of dudes as he runs deep slants, drags and crossing routes or settles into deeper zones. Hester same thing. Run Hester deep to distract the safeties and bring Olson, Bennet and Knox under the zone.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I am not sold on Knox. He is lowest ranked starter of the receivers IMO; I think I'd rather have 'sheed in there, actually.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Lovie is laughing all the way to the BANK with his guaranteed $15 million+ and the jealous male bloggers are still eating humble pie, getover it boys, Lovie is the COACH of our Chicago Bears. Write it down, 2011, 2012, and 2013. Deal with reality.

  • In reply to Jeanne1:

    T-r-o-l-l

    You gb or cheesy?

    Interesting angle though.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Irish, you keep talking about Cutler for two 1sts, Orton, and a 3rd round pick.

    Need I remind you of two flaws in your consistent breakdown: You list Orton as a commodity-which he wasn't, and you fail to mention that we also gained a 5th round pick which we used to draft our most productive receiver since the trade. Like him or not.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    nice piece

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Would you trade Cutler for Orton, two firsts, and a third rounder though? Knowing what you know now would you do the same deal?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And no on Sidney Rice, the hip thing is worrying. 1 full season out of four due to injuries. If we shell out for a #1 WR then we can't afford injury concerns. Look at the receivers out there :

    Moss, T.O., the NY Jets, Fitz, Mike Williams, Malcom Floyd, V-Jack, James Jones, Housh, Chansi Stuckey,Sam Hurd, Jacoby Jones, Mike Sims-Walker, Hank Baskett, Greg Lewis, Lance Moore, Derek Hagan, Brad Smith, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Legedu Naanee, Ben Obomanu, Laurent Robinson, Danny Amendola, Mark Clayton, Maurice Stovall, Santana Moss.

    There's maybe two guys on that list that don't make us a better football team.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I thought Kyle would be a shoe-in #2 after his rookie 10-5 record, but no. Don't be sure about Hanie with this staff.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Martz threw Hanie under the bus in a recent very weird interview. He said they came out throwing with Collins to see if he could throw the damn ball??? He dismissed Hanie's play in the Championship game by saying he threw two picks. Martz shit the bed with his play calling in that game and wasting two drives with Collins. I think his ego got in the way, and it better not happen next year. I'm for keeping Martz, but I don't trust that guy.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Or a free agent Ender.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Could be! Someone on this forum keeps throwing the A.Haneswort(sp) name out there.

  • In reply to Church:

    he is such a fuckwad but it would be awesome to have an inspired Haynesworth playing in a defense he likes to be in. Not many humans beings on this planet can get 100 million and still be a decent guy. I tell myself I would be normal but I could buy you and sell you to Romanian kidney dealers and you'd love it because i'd be wearing a chinchilla top hat while i did it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkB9OT2XVvA

    Fuck I love this commercial. Sheer brilliance... your comment made me think of it Johnny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That was hilarious MB.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    LOVE the mini giraffe Corm. Want to know where I can get one for my daughter.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, did you catch the dogs playing poker in the background in the begining? Brilliant.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Imagine this draft scenario.

    1st Round - Stud DT 10 spots lower than predicted.
    2nd Round - Solid G/C that's ready to start.
    3rd Round - LT prospect that might need to play RT or LG for a season to get NFL starter ready.
    4th Round - CB prospect with good upside.
    5th Round - Under-rated LB
    6th Round - True fullback that's useless on passing downs, but an okay run-blocker and short yardage battering ram.

    Would anyone be upset by this draft? I can plug the Paea kid in the 1st. Casey Matthews in the 2nd. Just as an example.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Anything but a tice-chosen ol stud in rd 1 should be...nay... needs to be, a fireable offense. I MIGHT be able to stomach a move like that in rd 3 or above... IF its widely accepted that no more oline prospects are available whatsoever

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I'd love it. We have to be prepared to grab a player who clearly sank in the draft e.g an Ingram. Also, it's a draft heavy in DL, so do we turn down a good replacement for Tommie?

    Looking at all the D-linemen workouts at the combine, some of those boys look like body builders (bar Ajiboye. Spread offenses are really generating the kind of linemen the Bears need, chasing-machines. Allen Bailey is a monster.

    I'd keep Tofu or Unga as FB though, unless there was a man-mountain available in the 6th.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    with you on the FB. Tofu was probably one of the top 3 FB in college at cal, and the dude catches really well. We need to at least give one of these guys a shot before wasting a pick on someone new.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Julio Jones ran a 4.39 with a broken foot. Can you say stud? As I watch the DB's practice, I see so many 5'9 dbs that Lovie loves.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    A guy from TN today at the combine ran a 4.29 and he was a DB. He wasn't all that tall but he stumbled on his second run and still ran a 4.35.. ohh, he goes to school in the state of TN. Trust me, this guy is legit

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Wow.
    Does he deliver sandwiches?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hahahaha... that was even better. Very nice MBP.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    because he goes to school in TN?

    So, are you suggesting he try out for the track team 85?

    Man, that kid is fast, but here's the $64,000 question... can he play football in the NFL son?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I sure hope so.. why would they let him come the combine lol MBP, that was funny. I believe that if a man has that much speed.. he can cover anyone. Just sayin. The only 64,000 question I have is.. how much speed does he lose when he has pads on and can he shut down big wideouts. Ok two questions but that is all

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    All I want is 2 O linemen that can start and play at a high level, anywhere on the line. Just some upgrades. Glad Tommie is gone, what a waste of money the past couple years.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Murph..+10000000000000000000000

    I WANT MY TWO GUARDS(and/or a Center)!!! and not CW u useless piece of sheite!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Mayer seems to think Edwin Williams is our center of the future. I guess that's why we canned Beekman last year.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Sheen quotes of the year:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/cheaper-than-therapy/2011/03/charlie-sheens-quotables-and-notables.html

    "I have a disease? Bullshit, I cured it with my brain."

    Fucking best quote ever.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Van Dyke is a CB and ran a 4.24 I think ....

    Allen Bailey though, huge broad jump for a big muscular guy and a 4.77 40. Animal.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    this is excellent: http://larrybrownsports.com/darwin-nominations/naked-arrested-man-asks-about-jay-cutler/56017

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When asked where he was going, he said he was looking for his minivan.....

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minivan

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Jesus, I almost fell out of my chair:

    "...2 in the front and 5 in the back"

    the next entry down is almost as funny:

    "A vehicle driven by a male who has given up on life."

    Actually they are all hilarious. Coach, can you pls regale us with more stories of bachelor golf trips to mexico?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have to say I've tamed down a little bit recently MB, no golden showers to report....perhaps I'll share an oldie or two...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    sad. yes, why not coach...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    this is by far my favorite: "Sorry my life is so much more bitchin' than yours. I planned it this way."

    Not to trade on his lunacy for my own bored and petty amusement, but that shit IS pure poetry. Fucking. Brilliant.

    One other item... I know he's going down in a ball of white flame, but how fucking hypocritical of the network to shitcan the show because of his real life. He's the same fucking guy (basically) on the show in real life right? So they went and got THE guy to play THE part, and they're canning him because his real life mirrors his show life?

    Huh? How can they even justify that? I would get it if he plays a virgin priest saving children in Haiti, but this

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They may can his sorry ass for whatever reason they want.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    http://www.sportsgrid.com/mlb/charlie-sheen-fantasy-team-names/

  • In reply to mottystone:

    You and I are on the same page. I think that is extremely plausible.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i also likes savings the money. love that commercial. that little giraffe makes me laugh every time.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The dogs were great, but the mini giraffe made me laugh my ass off.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHEEE!

  • In reply to Church:

    I'm one of the few that keeps throwing Haynesworth out there. Having his fat ass clogging up the middle and wreaking havoc would be amazing.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    that's the crazy thing about Haynesworth. He is a fucking dumptruck but can still penetrate and get sacks and tackles for losses while clogging shit up. What an idiot. I want him.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    "How can you blame me, cociane is fun and those women had vaginas" - Charlie Sheen

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    No one parties like Sheen.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    That should be a fortune cookie. Awesome.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    It would all be funnier if he wasn't so sick.

    This guy is on a manic high and sooner or later his body is going to play the "Equal and opposite reaction" game on him and drop him into a deep, dark, clinical depression.

    Right now, I say the odds are very much against Charlie Sheen being alive at this time in 2012.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al, completely agree with you. I was watching a live interview. He is about to take an epic, epic, fall. He won't live another year. He says he is clean but is clearly batshit crazy and manic. I say he drops before this time next year. He will go out in a blaze of fucking glory though.
    A. bender the likes of which no one has ever seen. The rights to the movie will be optioned immediately.
    B. Suicide by cop after a highspeed chase

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Look no further than Chicago now for more of my personal hero's quotes...

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/cheaper-than-therapy/2011/03/charlie-sheens-quotables-and-notables.html

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Really have a hard time feeling bad for Charlie. Hopefully he'll wake up and dodge a bullet, if not, Uh-Oh. He's the perfect storm of party boys. Rich, totally addictive personality disorder and the constitution of a plow horse.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Yeah, John Belushi was "strong as Albanian Oak" until he wasn't.

    I have a feeling the clock is about run out on Charlie Sheen. I feel bad for his family.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Jets cut Vernon Gholston, the 6th overall pick in the 08 draft. Now thats harsh when the 6th overall is a bust.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    here you go 85: http://www.realclearsports.com/lists/nfl_draft_stock_combine/john_engelberger.html

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Those are awesome. My favorite,

    "People say, 'You have to work through your resentments.' Yeah, no, I'm gonna hang on to them and they're gonna fuel my attack."

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Sheen is a jackass. The world would not be any worse a place if he died tomorrow.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Even for his kids?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    What about Cole from Philly?

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4670016/watch-for-cole-to-pop-up-on-bears-radar

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Talk of Chester Taylor getting cut

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-02-07/chicago-bears-reportedly-to-cut-rb-chester-taylor

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    that would not be smart at this point.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    agreed

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    a big wideout for Cutler? You know Cutler likes'em tall and willing to go get the rock.

    http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011jbaldwin.php

    OR do we go with an O lineman?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Talk of Chester Taylor getting cut

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-02-07/chicago-bears-reportedly-to-cut-rb-chester-taylor

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Couple mock drafts if you are bored. One goes thru rd 5.

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2011.php

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hmmm. What to do with my Tommy Harris jersey now. I know, Hey SJVL! Need something to line the Nut's crate with?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    i think many people will store it next to their Cade McNown jerseys. Tommy was pretty damn productive until he wasn't.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    You could put it on, go to work and have some big guy lay on you the entire day. I think that might sum up Tommie's production the last few years.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    you'd have to fall down without being touched first

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    TH..in a nut shell:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDbNV9KpZg

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    or this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlpDiXPZHQ

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