Bears Should Target Sidney Rice

Barring a surprising move by the Minnesota Vikings, many believe wide receiver Sidney Rice will be dipping his wick into free agency waters next months.  There will be other receivers sure to draw interest from Chicago Bears management, regardless of Dan Pompei's inane belief that the position is not a necessity for the club.  Braylon Edwards and Vincent Jackson are almost assuredly out of their current homes, with VJ requiring a mid-round pick before April.  But Sidney Rice is the prize of the market.  And if the Bears want to pair their franchise quarterback with a franchise receiver, they'll break the bank and bring him in.

This should not be taken, however, as a slight on our current crop of wideouts.  Devin Hester and Johnny Knox are excellent, developing players but neither requires anything resembling a double team on a third-and-eight.  Earl Bennett has games where he makes fans think he could be a star and then follows them with three or four catchless afternoons.
The Bears need a star on the outside.  A star to be feared.  And they need a player who is capable of out-leaping a quality corner and bringing in a pass the average receiver would let hit the ground (or worse be intercepted).  Rice is that player and he earned his stripes in this league hauling in errant tosses from the worst culprit of "just fling it up in the air" the league has ever seen.  He will not only give the Bears options on the outside, create horrible mismatches for opposing defensive coordinators and become the best talent the Bears have ever fielded at the position but his impact on Cutler will be visible immediately.  Watch the quarterback's confidence soar as a few of those passes pulled out of the air by corners end up as touchdowns.
The Bears did not hesitate to bring in Julius Peppers.  They understood the need.  They had the money.  If Rice hits free agency, they must do the same.

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  • Figures
    I
    Really
    Suck at
    Typing fast

    but I agree about Rice.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Impressive how you got that in GPL

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    That's what she said

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Boom!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Damn. How could I have missed that? Good one.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Please no Braylon Edwards. Too many drops. Only difference between him and David Terrell is Edwards catches the tough pass. DT didnt play favorites and dropped them all.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    We should just have a no Wolverine policy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No Wolverines except O line and 6th round hall of fame QB's

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Damn, I go away for a day and everyone stops arguing!! Who are you people??!!

    Well, crap. I agree too. Mr. Rice would be an incredible addition, and I just may lose my mind if anyone thought we had a receiver others feared. Yeeeeah.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    We haven't stopped arguing.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes we have.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No we haven't.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No we haven't.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Shut up, now you're repeating yourself.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's more like it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And how does this Canadian guy fit into the picture???

    Sydney Rice (6'4) age 24 202lbs/Vincent Jackson (6'5) age 28 237lbs
    Johnny Knox (6) age 24 190 lbs
    Devin Hester (5'11) age 28 190 lbs
    Earl Bennett (6) age 23 204 lbs
    Rashied Davis (5'9) age 31 187 lbs
    Andy Fantuz (6'4) age 27 221 lbs

    Maybe we could sprinkle one or two bigger receivers with the smurfs? I think it would be a good mix.

    I still want to emphasize the need for protection though.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    Candian guy runs a 4.8 forty..

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Speedy!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I think maybe what you lose in speed you gain in size and hands. Give Cutler some bigger targets.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    Hub says there is no way this guy makes the roster. I like the idea of a 6'4 guy with hands but I like the thought of a 6'5 guy with hands that can run a 4'5 and can win jump balls like SR. We'll see what happens. Remember the Cutler/Peppers effect. Something will happen.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    One word for you Shon.... Freddy. Barnes.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Freddie Mofo Barnes!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Brandon Rideau. Just Sayin'. Soon to be gone Shabba. Brandon Lloyd. Brandon Marshall! Can we get a Brandon?

    They cut Tommie rather than pony up 5 or 6 million for him - I've got Angela drafting a three technique with rickets.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Move Webb, not Williams to LT...sorry for that slip.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Here's what I know as a bona fide fact at this point. The Bears, regardless of what they do in free agency with WR's, Bob Sanders, etc; CANNOT afford to pass on Pouncey at 29 in the first round. That kid is gonna be a Pro Bowler, mark my words. He can play Guard and Center, and his twin brother is evidence as to what you'll get in the NFL. I mean they have the same f-ing DNA, how do you not take this no-brainer?!?! I will hate any other 1st round pick if he's available. JA and Lovie have to be able to to see what I see, right? It's a need matched with low risk and provable results. Seriously, gotta get this one.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    From the darkside(s). Here's the potential plunder from the hated. There were others not worth listing.

    Couple interesting ones in there, no?

    GB:
    - Brandon Jackson, 25
    - John Khun - 29 (wow, didn't know he was that old)
    - WR James Jones (6'1" 210) - 27
    - Atari bigby, 29
    - Charlie Peprah, 28

    Vikings
    - S. Rice - 25
    - DE Ray Edwards, 26
    - DT fred evans, 27

    Lions:
    - Center Dylan Gandy, 29

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ray Edwards... can we get him? Or does he suck?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    He's a badass erik.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ray Edwards, DE, Vikings. Age: 26.

    Ray Edwards had a tremendous year, registering eight sacks and shutting down the run on his side. The question remains: How will he fare without the opposition keying in on Jared Allen and Kevin Williams?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sounds like Indojie.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Ray Edwards doesn't tackle you. He tries to drive people into the ground. He hit Cutler and i thought he was a fucking goner. That is one bad broham.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Knox is going to have a breakout year next year. About 75 catches for 1200 or more yards. He definitely needs someone to complement him and take off some pressure. He started his career with a major learning curve and two different offensive schemes, but still put up good numbers his first two years. I wish he was a bit stronger, but he's definitely getting better. Let's see what he does in the same offense for two years.
    On a side note, the CBA is boring compared to what's going on in WI right now. There is intense fighting among friends and neighbors right now. This labor issue is very intense right now.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    We only had the money to pay Peppers because there wasn't two first round draft picks to grease up. There'll be a cap next year, how big nobody knows, but there will be one. If it's bib-bodied capable professional receivers we want, then there are quite a few available in FA. Our Sidney is near the top of a large pile this year, but there's plenty of choice out there for the cost of half a Devin Hester. But Cutler and Marshall had over a hundred hookups a season together, I don't know how you don't make that happen if you're the Bears' GM. Except I do.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Half a devin hester... is that a gnome or an elf?

    Yes, you do Irish... sadly, yes... you do.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    That's how I imagine Angela is on draft day ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wouldn't care to take James Jones off their hands. For all his obvious ability, one of his best skills is the key drop or fumble. I can recall at least one or two Bear games he's lost for the Pack by coughing the ball up, in one case, twice in the same game (with help from Peanut, of course).

    Bigby's had "Mike Brown" syndrome lately, no?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You should debate religion with yourself, GP. It'd be an interesting case study. Would one get heated and personal with even oneself?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    one might doc... one might.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I'd find a way to offend Roy Rodgers.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    When you say "break the bank", how much are you talking about? I just never know about giving a lot of money to WRs. I know everyone is really adament about getting a big strong wideout, but in my opinion, WR and RB are the most overrated positions on a football team. I think pass protection, run blocking and quarterback play are the real influences on offensive efficiency. I just don't know how much of a difference WRs can make on an offense, unless you have a truly special player....and Sidney Rice is not a special player. He is good, and he has had come impressive games, but he's no Fitzgerald/C.Johnson. Outside of 2009, the guy has done very little (I know he only played 6 games this year). He was also part of a pretty explosive offense as well, with percy harvin and AP keeping defenses honest. The guy would be an instant upgrade, but I don't think he's worth more than 6 million a year.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I used to think that until I saw Devin Hester run routes and Knox physically unable to push a physical corner off him, like a teenage girl in the back seat of a car with Ben Rothlesberger on top of her.

    Honestly, when I watch Knox get chucked at the line and nearly fall down often physically unable to regain stride and complete the route, the words that come to mind are not pleasant.

    I also ask that you pull out your old Bears season VHS tapes and watch a guy named Marcus Robinson's effect on the Bears offense.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I agree Wrig. I look at the Sidney Rice situation (not necessarily the players skill levels) as Bernard Berrian in reverse. We could do some damage to an opponent, but that might make us overpay for a good player with one good season on his stat line.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Top FAs in 2011

    WR:

    - Sydney Rice
    - Vincent Jackson
    - Santonio Holmes
    - Braylen Edwards
    - Malcom Floyd
    - Steve Smith
    - T.O.
    - Randy Moss
    - Mike Williams
    - James Jones
    - Steve Breaston

    Offensive Lineman:

    Tackles

    - Tyson Clabo
    - Doug Free
    - Jared Gaither
    - Jammal Brown
    - Might Light
    - Jermon Bushrod
    - Willie Colon (we should get him just for the name)

    Interior Linemen

    - Carl Nicks
    - Logan Mankins
    - Davin Joseph
    - Harvey Dahl
    - Ryan Kalil
    - Daryn Colledge

    Given that most experts agree that this year's draft is a little thin at Olinemen (last year's was very deep) and deep at WR, I would prefer we pick up two solid proven Olineman for the price of one big WR.

    Naturally, I would love to pick up two linemen AND a marque WR, but I also would like for beer to make me more attractive to hot women, as opposed to beer making fugly women look hotter.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    At tackle, Tyson Clabo (Atl) is young and seems pretty solid (Need I pull out the number of their run game and Matty Ice?). If he's available, we should get him at nearly any cost. Bleacher Reports list him at #12 out top 50 FAs.

    Matt (not Might, Freudian slip) Light (Pats) also is an intriguing tackle. He's a bit older, 33, but he's protected Brady pretty well for the last decade. Last year he allowed double digit sacks, so the question is - was it an off year, or a trend? Bleacher Report lists him at #19.

    Interior, for sure Mankins (Pats), but he's prob not going to be available.

    The bigger prospect IMO is center Ryan Kalil (CAR). The Panthers suck, and are in rebuilding mode, will Kalil be willing to put up with the stink for the foreseeable future? Most likely he won't be franchised (that would mean he would get paid like a top LT), so he should be in play. We should send Peppers down there to have a little chat with him. He can play guard for a few years until he masters all the schemes and terminology, then slide over to replace Olin seamlessly.

    Other tempting FAs in other positions for me, though they leave questions...

    Ray Edwards (RE), but how much more of an upgrade would he be?

    Bob Sanders (S), but how healthy will he be?

    Champ Bailey (CB), 3 good years left?

    Asmomugha (CB), how much will he cost?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Champ, jackson, are off this list

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    If the Panthers draft Cam Newton, that Center is out of there.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Mankins got franchised. Phil Dawson the kicker is also off the list.

    I also want Willie Colon just for the name.

    Cutler to T.O. and Randy Moss ..... or Hester/Knox? I'll have the two guys that come after Jerry Rice on the all-time list just for a year please - bet you we'd beat the Packers ....

  • Hmm.

    Helps the Bears.

    Hurts the Vikes.

    A 2Fer!

    Works for me.

  • Other than Dan Pompeii and Larry Mayer, I doubt if anyone would argue with you on this one, Jeff.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Pompei is tool who always tows the company line. He spent 2009 shilling for Ron Turner.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Totally agree Al. It's too bad because he seems like he knows the game. It's as if he's on the McCaskey payroll.

  • In reply to alott96:

    O-line, O-line, O-line! I dont want to see the Bears shoot their load on a big name wideout when they could get a decent big wideout at a lower price and pick up multiple O-linemen. Ryan Harris anyone?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Hello folks, long time no posts, but I am religious about this as daily reading.

    Rice, not being in Minnesota and being in Chicago is great, plus maybe he will want to extra-perform against Minnesota twice a year. Being 6 fee 4 inches is pretty important too and averages over 14 yards a catch. I really like the 6 foot 5 inch Vincent Jackson too and he averages over 18 yards a catch, but being that Rice is 24 and Jackson is 28, I am thinking Rice is the one. I would not argue if we got either of those guys, but it will be a lot more productive when the protection is stabilized for Cutler. so go and get one of them no matter what and then sell the farm for an offensive line.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    What's up Shonbear, still living life abroad?

  • In reply to shonbear:

    http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/freakonomics-radio-billionaires-vs-millionaires-five-things-you-dont-know-about-the-nfl-labor-standoff/?hp

    Eggo - Read this. It's terribly difficult to dismiss professional sports, and "personal" politics for so many of those Tea Party supporters like yourself. Try looking at the numbers of dollars.

    No doubt you and so many others liked that "live ammo" comment on the demonstrators in Wisconsin.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Jack, Jack... ease up on Johnny. He's one of us sir... at least in here.

    We all have our beliefs and idiosyncrasies, let's discuss and debate

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here I am!

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    There he is.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And don't be snide and pontificate; I get irate then I annihilate...don't front or I'm gonna have to set you straight.
    Sorry, slipped into some weird Kool Moe Dee mode for a second there.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    nice... copycat!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    hahaha!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Does anyone live in Virginia?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I guess there must be somebody Mike. I'm pretty sure I saw the lights switched on.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    They must be pretty goddamn bright, unless you were back in the mother country. It's a straight shot from Hampton to my ancestral home.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Doc...

    Propaganda? Them saying that it's propaganda IS the only propaganda (see how I did that?).

    The Muslim Brotherhood has the potential to be another Taliban. All they need is a foothold and some power. Group of dudes who are into 'old-skool' Mohammedan/shia law. Sounds like a recipe for trouble doesn't it? Those poor people need true democracy

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    An old joke: It says in Exodus that when Moses saw the burning bush, he took off his shoes. So when the leaders of Israel and the Palestinians got together for a negotiation, the Israeli asked to air a grievance first. "Moses took off his shoes when he saw the burning bush," said the Israeli, "but the Torah does not record him putting his shoes back on. I believe that this is because the Palestinians stole his shoes. While G-d was promising our holy land to the Jewish people, Hamas was stealing their shoes." The Palestinian leader had heard enough, "that's preposterous!" he cried, "there was no Hamas when Moses was alive! There weren't even Palestinians!" And with that, the Israeli leader said they could begin the conference.

    The "Palestinian people" did not exist prior to the creation of the state of Israel. The UK controlled Israel (then called Palestine, by the British mind you) and all of the Arabs living in the region had ethnicity from surrounding countries such as Jordan. The UK gave Israel back to the Jews, who have had a consistent presence in the region for over 3000 years. There had been an influx in Jewish population started by Theodore Hertzl in the late 1800s; those Jews eventually formed the population of the modern State of Israel and subsequent immigrants came from Europe escaping the holocaust and Stalinist Russia.

    The Arab countries attacked the day after Israel was formed. They attacked again in 1967 (and 3 times since). Both of those times, Israel won the war and won land. Both times, Israel has given back land. Most recently, Israel gave land in the Gaza strip to Palestinians. They used the Israeli army to clear out the population. As a thank you, the Palestinians used the nice new location as a staging ground for launching missiles into Israel.

    The Palestinian people is a modern invention. The original PLO charter was signed by all of the other nations in the middle east and specifically calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. The reason why the other nations are such staunch supporters is (1) They hate the Jewish state, and (2) They don't want Hamas and the Palestinians in their country. Anyone else notice that the "palestinian occupied territory" fits very nicely inside the Israeli borders? The British Mandate of Palestine did not match the modern Israeli borders - on the contrary it was much larger. Palestinians know that if they try to set up in Egypt, Jordan or Lebanon, they'll simply be killed. The Israeli soldiers, on the other hand, are nice enough to just arrest them and send them home after a few weeks. Hence, they want Israeli land.

    Oh yeah, Israel is 1/6 the size of England (not the UK, just England). Compare it in size to any other country in the middle east. 2/3 of it is desert. They gave back the Sinai penninsula to Egypt (that worked out well didn't it) which would have made them a whopping 1/2 the size of England. The Israelis have made the desert bloom. The Palestinians have moved into various areas in the region over the years and consistently have turned it back to desert. Israel gives them free roads, free electricity, free water. There are check points, but that's because Hamas has put suicide bombers in everything from family sedans to ambulances (and they don't just target soldiers). Imagine if one of the 9/11 planes had bypassed the pentagon and hit an elementary school instead - and then imagine that happening daily for a couple of years. I think you'd want check points too.

    Yeah, those Israelis are a really oppressive regime.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Jimmy Carter knows and understands more about that situation and the stories of all sides better than anyone alive. no one has done more in the search for peace. If the man calls it apartheid, that'll do for me.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    who is Rice's agent, and is there any buzz in 'Sota where Rice may want to land next year? Got to think V-Queen players are looking elsewhere to play nowadays.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Pushed for time MB, but I'll see what I can do ...

    1. I dig chicks wearing those burkhas. Nothing sexier than a woman's eyes

    2. It's the Christians that worry me. Nobody kills mofos like Christians kill.

    3. Capitalism replaced democracy, it's not a brand.

    4. Do we have the right to dictate to another culture as to how their lives should be? They'll leave you alone if you leave them alone. 9/11 was a response to sixty years of state-sponsored terrorism by the USA, not some random act of violence, some would say a very small response given the large number of oppressive regimes backed by American money since WWII.

    5. Is there a website where those chicks just take their niqabs off?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Enjoying a nice New Belgium Trippel ale. I'm reading all of y'all - but having a pretty eventful time at the moment and will try and keep in touch more as things calm down.
    What the guys on Sirius NFL said this morning rang true: both sides are playing a pointless game right now as neither one will walk away. They won't. They may put the league on hold for a year and punish the fans, but it's just bullshit. Neither side is willing to end the NFL. It is totally unlike any other negotiation I've ever seen. And we're the ones who will potentially pay the price.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Chimay for me as we type

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Good call!
    Omaha has another beerfest coming up in May - hopefully the college kids won't invade and poop themselves again.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    someone on the blog sent me a website to get the Brew Dog Tactical Nuclear Penguin. I ordered it. Drank half of it, failed to keep the receipt or note the website, switched bank checking accounts and can't find the store anymore. It had a bunch of Stars and Stripes and All American something. It was like Willy Wonka's factory for fucking dudes that love awesome liquor and beers. I need to find it.

    If you sent me the link and you read this post:
    PLEASE, I FUCKED UP. SEND ME THE LINK AGAIN!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That was me, homeboy.
    But I'll have to find it again.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Don't say I never did anything for ya, Waffle.
    http://www.spirit76wines.com/r/products/brewdog-tactical-nuclear-penguin?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Feed

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    oh shit. i have the website open in another browser window. I am navigating through the beer section. I have just pulled out my wallet. The numbers are so easy to read tonight. Clear and Bright. How to explain this charge to the wife? Business gift? Identity theft?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Holy Liver, Batman! You know it's drunken if you get carded just to look at their website. 32% by volume? Does that even qualify as beer anymore? Jebus H. I want me some of that. Do you ever actually drink the squirrel beer Johnny?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    no, it was 750.00 for a bottle and i think it was like 50.00 just to ship it to the US. The Tactical Nuclear Penguin just made more sense financially but i think I took out a second mortgage while i was fucked up because i don't remember agreeing to a basement renovation but that is definitely my signature.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    They only bottled a dozen or so bottles of the squirrel beer on the planet.
    I think one of them was a rabbit. Which, btw, I would've paid a testicle to own since my other screensig is deaDRabbit...however, they went for somewhere in the neighborhood of $1k a bottle IIRC.
    If Waffle bought one of those, I'm seriously inviting him on family vacations from here on out.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Fate has brought us together MBP. It was simply a total debacle after i consumed half of that shit. It had a great flavor and then I woke up surrounded by white castle boxes.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ahem!

    MBP... knave... I believe that the link was provided by me.

    Does THIS look familiar: http://www.uncrate.com/men/culture/drinks/the-end-of-history-beer/

    Thought so... I expect a full apology post haste... plagerist!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh absolutely, you found that; he was referring to the actual website he purchased it through...which was the Spirit of 76 liquor store.
    I would not steal your thunder on finding that crazy shit to begin with.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    oh, I take it all back.

    I feel so small now... so quick to judge and easy to jostle. Yes, I got a little insecure, and I'm sorry. It was childish and silly.

    Don't read up.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    chuckles

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    esp. at the knave...lol

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    looking at that picture makes me laugh every single time. Look at that poor little bastard and the booze just flowing out of him.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    it's almost like he's singing...

    moooooooon riiiiver... using the whole fist doc?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Can I borrow your towel? My car just hit a water buffalo

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The strongest brews I've had have been in the 14-15% ABV range...I would've been IN a white castle box.
    I've been on an IPA kick lately but I'm starting to dig Belgian ales, especially these trippels, now.
    Glad I could help - when DBB has a Super Bowl party, you bring the Tac Nuke and I'll bring some homebrew.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    like moonshine or your own beer? I just had some of the rare ol' mountain dew last weekend. P90x fucking sucked the next day. hard.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Actual moonshine? I'm pretty sure you guys would all drink me under the table. A smoke off, on the other hand...

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I act the damn fool when i inhale. permagrin. it's been years.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Since we seem to have a wealth of legal expertise on the site, I need to retain the services of legal counsel in the case of MB30SD vs. MBHAP regarding libelous statements made regarding the character of MBHAP.

    Then again, I implied MB30 may have less than noble intentions for his submarine.
    Forget what I said; you lawyers get busy arguing about labor law again. That was fun.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm telling my brother, esq. on you.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    @ only $200/hr (bro deal)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No wonder you can shop for submarines!

    I look at subs like I look at a bottle of tequila - it is very easy to take it beyond natural human limitations.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I wish man... my brother doens't even practice any more, but thanks for runing my joke. I guess I deserved it after everything I did to you last night.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ruining and runing

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This organization resigning Lovie Smith was just as smart as us picking up Orange Julius last year.

    Stability, player likability, and this guy can get great assitants. For as lacksidasical as he can be in press conferences, the players love him, and he's brought us success. Way to be Bears.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    new thread.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    You just inspired me for a project this summer.
    Thanks, waffle!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Summer to do list:

    1. paint garage
    2. sign up Timmy for soccer
    3. produce illegal pot still white lightning

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I thought I heard Shane MacGowan for a second.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shane is still alive. That is a miracle. In honor of him I will listen to Hell's Ditch on the way to work tomorrow.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.shanemacgowan.com/poguesalbm.shtml

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Not even touching this argument. Glad to see everybody back to normal.

    Some news for Lovie Lovers:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7608

    He's still with us thru 2013!

  • In reply to sjvl:

    This move concerns me, as I mentioned above, because I think Lovie would have done a better job with a bit of pressure on him next season. But I can't say it was a boneheaded move by any stretch and this is why:

    [quote]"In seven seasons, Smith has compiled a 66-52 record, including 3-3 in the playoffs. Since he was hired in 2004, he has led the Bears to three division titles, the most by any NFC North team during that span. His 66 wins are third most in franchise history, trailing only Hall of Famers George Halas and Mike Ditka.

    'That

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Even as a known and avowed lovie... disliker... I have to mostly agree with everything you've said NB.

    Here's the net-net for me... his playoff record exemplifies him. He's a .500 type coach who will usually beat teams like the browns, bills, lions, etc

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, typo.... most times, should have been SOMEtimes

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Hey Doc. I'm curious to read that undergrad paper you wrote on game theory and the all-powerful, "all-good," deity. Is it published anywhere?

  • In reply to mottystone:

    No. Not published. I don't even know if I have a hard copy of it anymore. Or a saved copy for that matter. I'll see if I can find the book I read about the topic though. It won't have much in the way of game theory basics unfortunately, but you can find that stuff easy enough.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ahem MBP... I do believe that was ME.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    btw, next year for my birthday, I expect you all to pitch in for a gift.

    This will do: http://raonhaje.com/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You're not planning on going into a different line of work there, are you MB? You are fairly close to our southern neighbors.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    interesting suggestion MBP... while dangerous, it IS very lucrative... KNAVE! Repent and take back your libelous statement below.

    I've provided proof. Recant!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I likey

    http://espn.go.com/blog/ChicagoBears/post/_/id/4669937/bears-meet-with-former-badger-carimi

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    If he's there, we'll take him - but he won't be...I really think he'll go by 20 and we're not trading up.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Oops, late hit. Artoo already has this posted so

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4669922/tackle-sherrod-could-be-option-for-bears

    and the Hair's latest pick for us

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4669917/kiper-projects-ol-help-in-mock-draft

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Did you really flag yourself before the infraction? Duly impressed.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    No I meant for the link above it but it sure looks that way from how I wrote it. Uhh is this how Ron Turner felt sometimes calling plays? Too soon?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Check out the comments on the Sherrod post. This one is hysterically funny.

    "lman2223 - I don't think he qualifies to be taken by the Bears in the first round unless he has back problems or an obliterated ACL..something. Anything, really. As long as it sidelines him and makes me want to him myself in the head with a frying pan. Here are other criteria to start on the O line:
    1. Be undrafted (this is the ideal qualifier).
    2. Have 14 years in the league and be undersized.
    3. Be drafted by someone else, but then you have to never see the field and get cut. Then the Bears will sign you at 12:01 AM the day FA starts.
    4. Be drafted, but you have to play a position you did not play in college.
    5. Not be able to remember a snap count under any circumstances ever. EVER.
    6. Show a willingness to completely ignore silly details like a blitzing LB so you can pretend to block someone that is already being blocked.
    7. Versatility is key. You must be able to stink at several positions.

    Now, who else is ready for a lockout! Bear Down!"

    Great stuff!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    so funny, yet so painfully accurate. Nice work on YOUR oline Jerry!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/02/24/ranking-the-free-agents-4-3-defensive-ends3-4-outside-linebackers/

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Ok, new idea, get one of these FA DE and we won't have to draft any and Wooten and Indonjie can fight for a spot.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    http://walterfootball.com/combine2011OL.php

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Look at some of the people we can draft for the Oline.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4669937/bears-meet-with-former-badger-carimi

    Please don't be another Williams

  • In reply to kenbill:

    My favorite quote:

    "You know, right now our current players if they

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Eagle HOFer, Chuck Bednarik, was nicknamed "Concrete Charlie". NOT for the way hit on the field (which it COULD have been) or the fact that he played both ways up until 1960, but because in the off-season he was a sales rep for a conrete company.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Oline Draft Watch:

    An assessment of center/guard prospect Wisniewski (considered a top 3 center)

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4669927/ol-wisniewski-could-fill-a-bears-need

    An assessment of of T/G Carimi (Considered the 4rth best tackle).

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4669937/bears-meet-with-former-badger-carimi

    Everyone is high on Pouncey, as am I, but he may not be around by the time we get on the board. I've read some mock drafts that have him going as high as the late teens.

    Wisniewski seems like a gamer, and I for one covet a center/guard at out draft spot because we can get better value than tackle, though tackle is obviously a bigger need, which goes to that old argument of value-vs-need. I think we can get better value at c/g, but we need a solid left tackle.

    Camiri seems somewhat cocky, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. He knows he's considered the 4rth best T and is pissed about it. It may make him extra motivated and play with a chip on his shoulder. However, I don't like the idea that he's projected more as a RT (are we seriously going to move the more athletic but inexperienced Williams to LT?). I also don't like that the article suggests he can move to the inside - aren't we already paying a mediocre guard top LT money in Williams?

    If I were drafting, I would pick up a center/guard first, then tackle (unless a top three PURE LT falls to us - not likely) and next draft pick a true day-one starting LT with our higher draft pick. And if we don't own a higher pick next season, then that would in all likely hood mean we went to the super-bowl, which is also fine with me.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Jack, I'm going to try this one more time in a condensed fashion so you don't have to remember too much in one sitting.

    1. I'm completely for the players in this situation you obtuse old man. I have expressed this in past posts which you obviously failed to read.
    2. I am not a tea party supporter and voted for Clinton and Obama you obtuse old man. I have expressed this in past posts which you obviously failed to read.
    3. I have played football all of my life and almost died doing it as I broke my neck. I know the dangers of the game, know the value the players bring, know there is no league without them and know they deserve health benefits and for owners to honor the fucking contract that they signed.
    4. I will not shut up when irrelevant political shots are taken BY ANY SIDE on a football blog. Being in the financial field, having been in a union in the past and being a common sense type guy I take each fucking issue at face value and don't toe any party line whether it be the insane liberal left fanaticism or the equally insane right wing Tea Party/Neo Con movement. If you can't understand that this type of person can exist in this world then I don't know what to tell you that would convince you short of pissing on a member of each side as I film it for you.
    5. I don't know what you are referring to with your live ammo comment but I would assume someone made a comment about people fighting for union rights up in Wisconsin. Anyone that feels that there should be no unions obviously never had a great grandfather discriminated against and worked to death in the pre-union days of this country. Luckily I have a long family history in this country and have been taught the importance of having a society where people can fight for there opinion and their rights without being harmed or their families harmed.
    For lumping me into that category of person that would like to see my fellow countrymen killed for expressing their rights....? ALl I can say is shame on you. You don't know who I am Jack. You don't know anything about me. Yet you feel like you can tell me who I am or am not? You're like Peter King or Don Banks. You can be so wrong and still be allowed to spew this nonsense in your posts. That is the freedom of the internet I guess. I'm not a huge fan of you right now and instead of CONTINUALLY being wrong about me I would just encourage you to quietly go back and read some of my posts. You may laugh, you may cringe and you may even agree with some of it whether it be about the Bears or my views on how FQ should enthusiasticly bang as much strange as possible this year. At the very least it will temporarily stall you from continually assuming incorrectly about me at every turn. The misguided inflammatory comments are getting on my nerves.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hear Here. Judgers abound.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I just want to enjoy the blog again. I'm sick of being accused of shit I honestly don't care about and have no part in. The packers fans ruined it for me for a full month and now this shit.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    So much to agree with here.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This is me, staying the hell out of the way!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The Rep/Dem thing is just bemusing to outsiders. Voting either way is just deciding which of the old man's nuts you're going to drain. It's all the devil's jism in there.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    Both Rice and VJ get signed by their teams so we need to look elsewhere.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Always bringing a modicum of reality Wrig... if not, slight pessimism. That's why I always want an impartial around to keep things on the up and up. Interesting points about Rice that hadn't been thrown around before.

    I do think we need a true #1, just don't know if it should be Rice. He's without a doubt a huge upgrade... net-net, it all comes down to the negotiation (i.e., value)?

    Jeff, you never answered my question about JA from the last post. Thoughts?

    Oh, and JDawg...

    1) Never said that, I said both groups referring to them separately

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you can't say: "Waah, get fucking over..." and then say: "the people of these places that want real democracy have to take it and keep it

  • In reply to jdawg:

    I don't understand jd... I think we're talking about two different groups.

    The waaah is to the leaders of these countries and the extremists who feel slighted and oppressed by the west. I'm not talking about the layman in the streets who desperately wants to cast off the yolk (or burka in this case) of their rulers/traditions... I'm talking about the people who wage jihad against the west and all of the innocents. Those are not (mostly) the people rioting for freedom right now, that

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And check THIS out JD: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/24/libya.protests/index.html?hpt=T1

    SUPER interesting ramifications if that tone/message is picked up and run with elsewhere. Besides being a terrifying situation, it's pretty damn fascinating to see how everything turns out.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think we probably agree on what we'd like to see happen. I think I'm confused in regards to where you think the religious extremists are. I could be wrong, but it sounds like you're saying they're in power. Now, they are in power in Palestine and, in a way Iran, and until 2002 in Afghanistan, but most of the dictators over there aren't that religious. Don't get me wrong, the religious extremists are the nut jobs and scare the hell out of me, they're just not running that many countries. That doesn't mean they don't have the ability to wreak havoc.

    Anyhoo, yeah, I think we both hope democracy flourishes, but I think its going to be really messy and periodically, really violent.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    100% on the last sentence.

    No, I was separating those two groups (despotic leaders just looking for more money power, i.e., sadaam, and the 'religious' extremists, i.e., osama.

    I was kind of lumping them together in the, 'the people need to take over and do away with BOTH of these groups' argument, and I think that's where I caused confusion. I guess the only intersection, as you just alluded to, is that the vacuum left by these populace revolutions can potentially allow the most organized group to come in and take over

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I confess to falling a little too out of current events in the last couple years. Part of this is due to the busyness of life and part of it, I shamefully confess, is just letting up after the last election. I was pretty active there for a while, and when the former president was ousted, I took a wait and see approach. I waited alright, but I've forgotten all about the see part. Got to get back into it somehow. I don't want to be one of the many citizens of this world who is just content enough and just busy enough to basically turn a blind eye to the worlds problems. I've got a lot of catching up to do.

    I did some of that catching up a few minutes ago when when I watched the Frontline episode about the Egypt situation. During their discussion about the Islamic Brotherhood, they painted two pictures, MB. One that had the brotherhood characterized in a way that made it seem as if their eventual rule would turn Egypt into another Iran. By that I deduce that people believe that the Brotherhood will turn Egypt into a religious state whereby modern secularists and practicers of other religions may not be tolerated. The other picture showed the Brotherhood as much less homogeneous group and that the former view was unfair propaganda against them by Mustava (sp?) and his regime, and our leaders in the west.. I'm not sure I got the whole idea here. But it seemed that this latter view believes the governments caricature of them as being mere propaganda. Can you, MB, or anybody else help me understand this better? If it is propaganda, what are they really? Not that I'll take your word as matter of fact or anything, but it might help me find my way to a fairer understanding of the situation. And yes, I know, it's going to take much more than a one hour Frontline episode to educate me. I realize this. I'll take one percent from the program and seek my other 99% on Da Bears Blog, thank you very much. Further, if democracy is what everyone thinks is best, then was it fair for Mustava to have oppressed this particular faction in the way that has been portrayed. If enough of the people want this kind of society, one in which Islam is seen as the National religion, then shouldn't their viewpoints be allowed? Shouldn't they at least have a chance to see if that's what the people want? I'm just asking, I'm not asserting any viewpoint here.

    As for the many Israeli connections to all of this, am I correct in assuming that the Islamic world is stillpissed at them for taking a country that wasn't theirs? I get their hatred, hell I'm still pissed at the English for taxation without representation (not really, I just like pretending like I am, it's fun (fucking redcoats)). Point is, aren't most countries originally stolen? The English stole our country from the Natives, we stole it from them... I know it's wrong, but isn't there a statute of limitations on this kind of thing?

    Fucking Redcoats.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    It's kind of part and parcel of nationality - by which I mean the whole concept of ownership and theft of land. You can't have one without the other.
    I wish Wicket would chime in; he can comment on this stuff ad nauseum.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He caught some Ewok STD ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Livin' the life this week gentlemen and Sophia Jane. Wife's gone. Kids are gone. Gone since Friday. Gone til Sunday? Monday? Getting snow. Had three days of solid ROCK with my boys. Man playing music and pretending to be a bachelor for a week is fun. Getting snow days. No school today (only two inches of snow and they cancel school, can you believe that?) Supposed to be icy tomorrow. No school again probably. Oh what will I ever do? May have to dust off the ol' play station. See if I still got it. Might even read for pleasure. Already watched about 6 movies. Airplane is being recorded as we speak (virtually). Anyhoo. Yeah so, no complaints here. Though I am getting some indigestion from the frozen burritos, frozen pizzas, hotdogs and mac n cheese menu. Miss the good cooking.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Didn't a movie just come out about a husband getting a week-end pass to be a bachelor from his wife? Life imitates art indeed lol

    Playstation, frozen pizza, and Airplane - that's the life. May I also suggest "I'm gonna get you sukka!" Opening scene, the Ghetto Olympics!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    "Junebug! Junebug!"

    The 100M stolen TV race

    The Evans midgets

    Kung Fu Joe versus 50 cops

    Ah .....

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Attaboy, Doc! Live it up while you can. But, I gotta say, it makes you enjoy the non-bachelor days even more.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    FUCK YOU DOC! (and I say that will all the fondness I have for you... but laced with an arsenic and draino-like envy)

    Do you know what I would do for 4-5 days without the wife and kids? Do you know? I think I would kill a ma... wait... no... yes, I do believe that I would indeed kill a man.

    Enjoy every single minute of it you lucky glorious bastard.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    4-5 days? Shit son, that's nothing. I got 8 or 9 whole days of freedom, thank the snow gods. Was gonna be 7, but where she is in Idaho got about 2 feet and all the highways in and out of town are shut down. She could probably leave on Saturday as planned, I know I would, but of course I told her that she should be safe and just wait it out. No alterior motives, just safety first, by golly!

    You sounded a bit like Rage against the Machine there MB. Which reminds me, today, I had nothing better to do, so I made a 8 hour playlist of all my favorite 80's and early 90's hard rock bands. Rage was one of them. I blasted it. Loved it....

    Come wit it now!
    Come wit it now!
    The microphone explodes, shattering the molds
    Either drop tha hits like de la O or get tha fuck off tha commode
    Wit tha sure shot, sure ta make tha bodies drop
    Drop an don't copy yo, don't call this a co-opt
    Terror rains drenchin', quenchin' tha thirst of tha power dons
    That five sided fist-a-gon
    Tha rotten sore on tha face of mother earth gets bigger
    Tha triggers cold empty ya purse

    Rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
    They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
    They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
    They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells

    Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
    Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
    I walk tha corner to tha rubble that used to be a library
    Line up to tha mind cemetary now
    What we don't know keeps tha contracts alive an movin'
    They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em
    While arms warehouses fill as quick as tha cells
    Rally round tha family, pockets full of shells

    Rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
    They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
    They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells
    They rally round tha family! With a pocket full of shells

    Bulls on parade

    Come wit it now!
    Come wit it now!
    Bulls on parade!
    Bulls on parade!
    Bulls on parade!
    Bulls on parade!
    Bulls on parade!

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    you sir, can go to hell you damn dirty ape.

    My sweet jesus, I think I might just kill TWO men for that amount of time without rules for everyfuckingthing. I might even do it just to be able to make noise in the kitchen whenever I want without getting yelled at for waking the baby... soundly sleeping 300 feet and two rooms away.

    Fucken a you lucky dog.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7599

    Covert on Dent. Nice.

    I wonder how much better Julius or Izzy is getting practicing aqainst such legends as Omelette and World Wide Webb? We need a quality a center and a quality tackle in the first two rounds my friends. Being a draft heavy in D-Linemen, I can see Angela screwing the pooch. Again.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I bought a 100.00 wah wah pedal just to play that fucking song in my garage band. Southern Discomfort.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    How about those Bulls!!?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I know they are doing well but for some reason I have no interest in them. I haven't watched a game all year. After Jordan left the Bulls and the 90's ended I just stopped watching. Haven't looked back. I love that kid Rose though. All heart.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/22/bears-lovie-smith-getting-close-to-new-contract/

    If this is true, I am somewhat concerned. But it would odd to see Lovie get extended after the CBA expires, only because we could be in lockout mode.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    No, that's pretty much par for the damn course with this fucking group NB.

    Jesus, this organization is so fucking brutal. Man that pisses me off.

  • In reply to MB30SD:
  • In reply to jdawg:

    ok, so to make up for all the boring political crap I've been posting lately, I offer you all this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlA-_rooBaM

    You're welcome.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    The Bears should extend Forte's contract for another three years right now. Aside from Cutler, he's our best offensive weapon. The CBA is a distorted joke. Aside from very few teams, the capital expenses are paid by the taxpayers, minus practice facilities. The players are generally paid very well. The one issue that needs to be resolved is long term health care. I think it's in both parties interests to figure this out, even if it means less pay. It's not good business practice to let guys like DD sit in the shadows. The NFL needs to take care of it's own.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Great post Jefe, long overdue though.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    did someone say soccer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsEbf-o83fc

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And now receiving his academy for "Best Supporting Actor" hhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeee!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and yes....JA GET SR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I say we do whatever we can to improve that position as long as we first shore up the O-Line with some young talent as well as free agents/seasoned vets. If we have the funds available, then go get dat summumabitch!

  • I'd also like the Libyan people to hurry up and rush the security squad and hang Ghaddafi from a tree, because these bomber launches against his own oilfields are hurting my stock portfolio.

    Thank you Libyans. Chop chop.

  • Someone brought up that not having two first round picks helped us get Pepper's. I am pretty sure that we don't have the money to pay Sidney or any other legit Free Agent. We will get some serviceable tackle, guard, and center. We draft this year for a legit tackle, guard, and center. We will not get a reciever in FA. If a great one falls to us in the draft, we will get one but expect a diamond in a rough type player or " this will kill some of us" they will stick with the same group of wideouts. Why? If Jay Cutler can improve with another year under the same system then our wideouts will be better! I don't believe that but that's what we are going to hear. Jerry needs to focus on what we know we have right now. The Draft. Jerry, your D is old. You need to start filling the Lb core, Dt core, and a starting Cb. Tillman can stay and so can Harris, but we need someone to take their place soon. Anyways, Angelo, if you want to win and stay, start choosing players who will start and won't take longer than a year to start. There is no FA. Things are not moving in the right direction and till then, calculus.

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