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  • Happy to maintain stability. Happy with the contract length, was worried it'd take another 4 year commitment and end up wasting a bunch of time & money if Lovie and Martz can't build on their success after the bye week.

  • Happy to be a bachelor for three more days!

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Happy for you Doc!

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    BOOOOOOOOOO.

    On a side note. Good Luck Doc. If she's "the one" then you'll be happy. If not,you'll find out soon enough.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    see, you need to come around more B4E.

    Doc's happily married with a couple chilluns... he just has a glorious, envy-inducing, ps3 drunken 9-day hall pass.

    (bastard)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well that's not fair at all. I protest thee Doc.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    PS3? I wish. I'll be dusting off the ol' PS2 and my antiquated games, none of which are very interesting.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I hope your memory stick works. Mine died after ten years, that beautiful bastard.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Happy for you too Doc...

    ...(bastard)

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    whatever... just get angelo out.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Angelo had better take Tice's advice about drafting O-linemen this year. I don't think we should draft a D Tackle. I will be a happy little boy if we draft a couple of linemen and then take out the pocket book for a little free agency. I don't want projects and i don't want trading down. I want 1st, 2nd and 3rd round talent competing like hell for starting jobs for 2011.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'd be happy with a FA o-lineman and a couple draft picks. I still want Haynesworth. Don't get me wrong the guys a crapbag but he can play football. The trading down will piss me off if there's anyone like pouncey or carimini around. O-line early and often and through FA. I heard Lovie said at the combine that Peanut is probably getting moved to FS. I wonder what that would mean at corner. I'm guessing they might go after Ras I Dowling maybe.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    where did you hear that about peanut? I though Nut had a good year at corner, seems a bit premature to put him at safety, considering he had 27 surgeries on his shoulders....

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Waddle and Silvy through Jeff Dickerson.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Very interesting.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    don't think Peanuts body can handle FS. Maybe he can put on a couple of pounds. His shoulders and back are fucked though. the first time he has to tackle a 250lb tightend head on is not going to be pretty.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Exactly.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I hear this a lot about Peanut. If he can't play football, then he shouldn't be on the field. Peanut's bigger than half of our safeties. Weight training, core-strengthening, he'd be a good safety.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I think he'd be a very good FS, in fact I think he'd be better than anything we have or could draft by a long shot... he is one of my favorite players (and I think SJ might back me up on that, just a hunch)... but he's had a lot of injuries.

    I'm all for giving him a shot back there, I think he'd have a HUGE INT year if he could stay healthy irish.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Totally MB, I'd be stoked with Peanut at FS, Harris at SS. Bowman, Moore, Graham, we can work something out at CB.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Lovie and JA are tied together for 3 more years. They never throw each other under the bus. The closest I've ever heard was JA getting a little testy and saying the players were good enough a couple of years ago. That really wasn't true but it's not like Lovie was doing great either.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Stability/Continuity is nothing to sneeze at.

    I offer Da Raidas and Deadskins as exhibits 1 and 1a.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..that's what the Captain of the Titanic felt "Stability and Continuity".

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Apples and oranges.

    I repeat, observe the effect of contant coaching turmoil on teams like the Raiders and Redskins. The Browns start on their 3rd regime in 4 seasons.

    Observe the once promising careers of QBs Alex Smith and Jason Campbell after enduring, basically, a new OC on a yearly basis.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Have to give it to him Lobo, dude had a badass fro man. That thing is sweet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's a badass fro, but not as cool as Artis Gilmore. He was like 7'6" with that fro.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    very nice Corm.

    He's 6'5

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I saw Artis in the San Antonio airport once. Its rather amazing how big some people get.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The extension is, imo,just about right. Also agree with the consensus on drafting - between four head coaches, we *should* be able to identify talent. Suppose it is safe to assume things will improve?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    one would think Dave. Let me ask you this... what should be the outcome if we bomb in the draft again?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    we'll find out in a moth or two. Bada-Bing!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Doubt it Irish. Even if he fucking gives up the goods and eats a turd sangwhich for what, the 7th year in a row... I still think the morons up to give the wank another extension. Pathetic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ayup.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think it would be clear that the GM would have to go. Whether or not it is Angelo's "fault" it clearly *is* his responsibility and he should be accountable.

    What the Bears need is this generation's Jim Finks.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Hey Doc, want to know just how bad it's become. I was cooking the wife and daughter dinner and I was marinating some chicken in rum... the smell got me all fired up because it took me back to the 'good 'ol day'.

    Man two kids under 2 is brutal. I'm living vicariously right now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    s

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Poor bastard. Just for you MB, I'm going to play my music extra loud, whilst blasting sinister bad guys on Max Payne, puffing sheeb all the while. I will break for the occasional fruity pebbles mixed with lucky charms, and continue 'til the wee hours of the morn. When I'm finally exhausted for the night, I'll sleep tight 'til round about high noon, and do it all over again on the morrow. Cheers.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    you're a true gentleman Doc.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, was that to much?

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Another cereal mixer! Your my kinda guy Doc.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Yeah, but FP and LC Murph?!?!?!

    Phillistine!

    How can you corrupt the pure fruity perfection of FP with the bland and stale grossness of LC?

    Fred Flintstone is rolling over in his sarcophagus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah that is a little extreme. I kinda go by anything is good with Cheerios. Cocoa Puffs or Cocoa Crispies with Cheerios I'd say is my favorite.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here's an interesting article from SI;

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jim_trotter/02/24/labor.hearing/index.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    From what I've ready and heard, after Lovie's first extension he exerted himself more over the draft and may have been responsible for such gems as Buhzine and Okwo, just to name a few. IF you count Cutler as a draft pick, or two halves of consecutive year #1's, we've done OK. Also, and I"ll try to find a link, I think we're #5 among teams in terms of percentage of drafted players starting.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    If you can find that link Jdawg that's be great. I wish I could put together a chart on how successful those starters have been. When you count people like Chris Williams and our revolving door at safety and d-line it's hard to find any drafted consistent starters.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    yeah, considering Olin, 54, Peanut were here before Angelo. I think the starters he's drafted are:
    Olsen, Williams, Webb, Knox, Hester, Bennet, Forte, Briggs, Manning, C Harris. Others who have started would be Roach and Louis.
    The first group, contains 2 Pro Bowlers and one DPOY, out of three players. The seconds has 2 PBers (counting Hester) out of 10, although Harris was put on 2nd team all pro for some crazy reason. Also, I'm not counting Tommie, who used to be great before his leg got all fucked up.

    Anyway, I'll continue to look. I think GB and Pitt are the top two.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fruity Pebbles is one of the greatest cereals ever. nothing else needs to be said about it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I emphatically disagree. Fruity pebbles suck, cocoa pebbles on the other hand...

  • In reply to luftwaffle:

    i think both are pretty damn good... very different moods, but couple of the best.

    My childhood favs were Cookie crisp and Pops.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm a Pops buy too. All time fav has to be a tie between alpha bits, and sugar crisp!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    On the issue of who is most responsible for the draft, I give you, weighted voting. I was going to paraphrase it myself, but I'll just let http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weighted_voting do it. There are many things that use weighted voting, including congress and some NBA teams when considering who to draft. What's interesting is what happens when you tweak the quota or the the particular weights. Examples; a simple majority is required to pass a bill in both houses of congress, 60% is required to stop a filibuster, and 2/3 are required to override a presidential veto. Depending on what the quota is and the way the votes are assigned, it is possible in some cases for one voter to have "veto power", meaning no player is drafted without that persons vote. But it is possible for the person with veto power to not get the player he voted for, unlike in a dictatorship, where the other voters are really just "dummies". It's pretty interesting to play with the many different possible outcomes when a voting system is tweaked. But I won't bore you with that here. I bring this up because, and I don't know this, but it's probable that many sports clubs use a weighted voting system for their draft. If the bears were to use a weighted voting system, obviously Jerry gets the most weight and I suspect he may have veto power, such as the system here, [6: 5, 3, 2]. This is a rather simple example taken from Wikipedia. In this system the quota is 6, meaning 6 yea votes are required to draft a player. Player 1 (Angelo) gets 5, Player 2 (Lovie?) gets 3, and player 3 (director of scouting?) gets 2. You see that Angelo cannot draft a player by himself, he needs at least one other vote. But he does have veto power because Lovie and whoever can't get to 6 without him. Perhaps in the actual draft room, there are more people with input and I could envision Lovie's weight having gone up after the SB. And maybe the O and D coordinators get some weight, like 1 a piece. But I would wager that Angelo has veto power. Anyway, I wasn't sure how many of you have ever heard of it so I thought I'd throw it out there as a possibility.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I doubt that its that explicit, but you are probably correct that different leaders on the team are involved in the decision.

    Probably it depends on the position... for example Tice likely has strong influence on the line, some influence on RB, TE and the like, and almost no influence on defensive positions.

    Probably it also depends on the issue in question. Conditioning coach will have a lot of say if a player is viewed as a "needs to bulk up" project.

    But all of this is typical in any management situation. The leadership (here: Angelo) takes all the information in and has a final say. If he trusts somebody, like Lovie, then he will have a hard time saying no if Smith demands a certain player, especially in the later rounds. Angelo knows that he has the final say, but he also knows that consistently going against Lovie means alienating the head coach.

    There are, by the way, voting systems where that is a factor. In shareholder voting, for example, choosing a board of directors. You can't just let each shareholder vote his shares for each position, because then the 51% shareholder could pick 100% of the board. Rather, you have a system that allows the 51% shareholder to vote for 51% of the board, usually by having everyone place all their votes at once.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    It's like a society of monkeys. Everyone's banging everyone else on the sly. Just to get along and keep the show on the road. Lower ranking males banging the higher ranking females. Older males banging the kinder. It's one gigantic clusterfuck with Angelo and Phillips sat right in the middle guzzling Stan's goo.

    And why in the Camptown Races is Hailee Steinfeld nominated for Best Supporting Actress Oscar? Who was she supporting? In the film I saw, she was central to every single scene bar the very last, and was practically the only female in the entire film. Acted the pants off the other tenured members of the Academy that's what she did.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That would be Satan's goo ... as in Lucifer, Prince of Darkness and Emperor of the seventh layer of hell ... and not, y'know, the ejaculate belonging to Kyle and Cartman's friend.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Reespect my authoratay!

    Screw you guys ... I'm goin' home

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    How can someone with a fro like that be so bland! Getting old sucks...

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Joint resolution 114. 2002? George W. Bush gives himself the sole power to go to war and use nuclear weapons. Now that's weighted voting.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    u missed spelled that Irish, it's spelled nu-klee-ee-err.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I refudiate that!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    "It's nucular. "

    -Homer J, George W.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    That is correct Doc. I don't understand why he never corrected himself.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Well bye bye to Rice...seems like ViQueens are going for a long term deal...DAMN for us..

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/27/vikings-offer-long-term-deal-to-sidney-ric/

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    how are they going to pitch that to Sidney?

    Frasier: Sidney, we'd like you to be our wide receiver for a long time to come. We have no fucking clue who our QB is and Joe Webb may be throwing to you...whaddya say????

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm sure they will mention a hefty number of greenbacks in there. I just hope Sid says, I'll take the money AND a franchise that just went to the NFC championship, tyvm.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I like the first comment there. "9-7 and wildcard my prediction."

    First of all, in a division with the increasingly tough Lions and the two teams that played for the NFC championship, you think the Vikes are going 9-7?

    Second of all, when was the last time a 9-7 team got a wildcard berth?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Rice is NOT taking the offer from the Vikes. Smart guy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Where are you seeing that MBP?

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Sirius NFL broke that this morning. I'll try and find confirmation.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6165737&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines

    Not saying the Vikes won't win out in the end, but they certainly ain't getting a home team discount.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We still woulda wound up with Chris Williams.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6159723

    interesting I guess.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Rice krispies mixed in with cornflakes and chopped banana and hot milk.

    Freshly-cut strawberries on Special K with cold milk. Kellogs Special K that is.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Damn Irish, all sounds good, but the hot milk thing is as wrong as wrong can be!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    COOKIE CRISP. FUCKING GREAT CEREAL.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II75J9wyq8E&feature=feedu

    Roy on 6'4 35 inch armed CFL signing Andy Fantuz.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    4.8 forty.. come on!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Only a second slower than Jerry Rice's time at the combine.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jerry ran a 3.8 forty? Wowzers

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Preeeeeeetty sure that Irish made up a number again.
    Rice ran a 4.7 forty at the combine.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'm sure he meant to say one tenth of a second slower. Point being, don't judge a man by his 40 time.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    And I would settle for Fanutz being in the Sidney Rice category...Jerry's only the greatest receiver of all time.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I would actually settle for him being on the active roster in September. That would be a step in the right direction.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    DT Paea is a strong dude.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/27/oregon-states-paea-breaks-combine-bench-press-record/

    I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, we need an aggressive DT to complete the D-line and put that much more pressure on Rodgers, Stafford, and... well on Rodgers and Stafford.

    On the other hand. This stat is a lot like Jauron Gilbert jumping out of a swimming pool. Okay, he's strong, who cares. Can he play? He's getting predicted to land at the end of the 1st. If we think he's a gamer, I'm okay taking him if the worthy O-line prospects all get drafted early.

    But I'm also fine to trade down. The guy just had surgery... why not drop 10 spots and try to pick twice in the 2nd or 3rd rounds rather than taking a risk.

    Thought?

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Since my kid is going to Oregon State now I've started watching all the Beavers games, and saw every game this season and most last year. Paea was the standout player in my mind. He is fast, strong, and relentless. Seems to have a good sense on where to be. The link below is not the best highlight reel, but it gives you the idea.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI8uaxEuHl8

    Like you said, if the top O-Line guys are gone, this would not be a bad choice.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I've been watching some of the combine, and I'm curious to hear what some of you think about Cam Newton. Would you take him with a top ten pick if you needed a QB? He played in an offense that reminded me more of my peewee league than the pros, and he ran more than he threw. He's definitely one hell of an athlete. Is he gonna be like a Tebow, Couch, or Vince Young, or can he turn into a good pro QB? I don't think he's going to be very good, at least not for 2-4 years.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Bust.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I want to watch the highlights tonight when wifey is done with the Oscars, but hearing that he barely broke 50%...well, it confirmed the "bust" prediction.
    He is one helluva specimen, but maybe he should be playing tight end at the pro level.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    my thoughts exactly MBP...

    ...my statement was going to be, "he's a more athletic, black, non-jesused tebow."

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    btw... for any other gadget whores on the blog... I can highly recommend the Moto Xoom. Thing is bad ass. Yes, I'm using mine for this post. Loooove it.

    Yes, Im a fool... yes, I'll buy V2 when it comes out in a year. Man, I just can't resist... like charlie sheen to hookers, drugs an booze.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm too lazy to look up the tech specs at the moment; how much did it run you and what network provider?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    $599 with a $20/month 1GB data plan for 2 yrs... or an extra $200 to buy your WiFi freedom. On Verizon.

    Here are the straight specs (but you should google Xoom v ipad2 to see a comparison breakdown): http://www.zdnet.com/blog/gadgetreviews/ces-motorola-xoom-tablet-specs/21336

    Dual cameras, dual-core processor, and the only tab (so far) with a USB AND HDMI-out port. The apps available are sparse, but that will clear itself up in weeks/months ahead. It will also be upgradable for Flash (weeks) and 4G (months).

    Basically, if you're thinking about a tablet MBP, this is the one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    bluetooth?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    of course!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and you can use Skpe so it essentailly can be used as a VoIP phone.

    Jesus, it's like they're paying me to be their markeitng fanboi. Sad.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Adios Hunter and Tommie. I am not sad to see either go.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Don't forget Shaffer...someone keep an eye on Irish.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I think it was GP who said it best, when he said:

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hmmmmm.... yeah, let's def hope dude pans out, but... uhhh...

    Fitz >>> Fantuz

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    damn man: http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/02/26/duerson.brain.exam/index.html?hpt=C1

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Sounds good. But if you find yourself doin that shit when you're ass is retired, in an empty house ... surrounded by bumming vampires ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You guys might hate me.. but if Ingram falls to us, I think we need to get him... talk about a one two punch

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    no hate for you mang. i would vomit a little in my mouth if we picked him though. OL, OL, OL, OL.....

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    or OL,OL, DL, OL

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Never say no to a stud.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    unless you need a stud at someother position instead.

    ...Jerry... is that you?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    What if that TE stud was still there when we pick ? He'd be our T.O. down the middle. Looks like a good inline blocker.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ryan Bartholomew... center 34 reps at the combine

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    He was using TWO arms though. Cock push-ups Artoo. Cock push-ups.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Nice!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have been jetted back in time to the days of having an infant. The 5-week-old Peanut gets up three times per night. Being that this is my first really small puppy, I did not expect this and I am toast.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Yikes! It won't be long until Peanut figures it out.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Say hello on his youtube channel ....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X0nXOdrYr0&feature=related

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    yikes! Reading some of those comments, at least we know where #16 and his family hang out. Thank jebus for this blog and all of you regs.

    I love you guuuuuys

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Hahahaha... we got our TWO English Bull Terriers at 8 weeks and it was the best thing that could have happened to us, because the following week we found out we were pregnant with our daughter.

    I always tell my just married friends it's the best damn baby training they can ask for and get a damn puppy before you get pregnant... it's the closest thing for the first few weeks.

    Just don't try it with english bull terrorists... they are X10 with everything they do, even puppyhood.

    Welcome back to my world SJ.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm just visiting, MB. Getting better already...

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Do you have a kennel for the little nut? I've never tried it myself, but it's supposed to work pretty good. Get the little nut a home with a home. He won't do his hourly if he's in his kennel. Puppies are no babies, but they are a tough nut to crack. See how I did that?

    Get a new Avatar Sophia Jane, I'm thinking one of the Nut would be nice. You could change the pic as the nut grows. Give us a weekly taste.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    nice.

    And you HAVE to kennel train him. Without it your life will be miserable. Besides, puppies need that security, then need for a den is in the blood.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He is definitely sleeping in a crate. It's hilarious though because it's the crate for our old Rottie, so it's more like an apartment than a crate. Agreed, I would get NO sleep without the crate.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Meet my friend, Peanut.

    Next time he'll be sporting the burnt and navy.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    That's a good looking puppy. Definitely going to be a big boy.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks Canada! We love him to pieces.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    That is one hairy nut! Nice pic sjvl. 5 weeks? How much does he weigh? He is going to be gargantuan.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I haven't put him on a scale yet, but I am estimating 10-12 lbs right now. I will keep changing my avatar so you can watch him grow....

    Food donations will be welcome. lol.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I Lovie that 'fro, and I for one vote for its return. His Bears hat would rock that thing hard.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    blogfader...why in heavens name would you post the pic? I mean we may dislike him as a coach but DAMN! that's a low blow even for you with that pic..PMP!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Again. He can either play football or he can't, if he's that banged up then he's useless to us anyway. I don't believe it. He can play safety. Lot easier to go from corner to safety than vice versa.

    Asomugha. Hear me Angela? Bitch.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Peanut wants to be moved to free safety. Leave him alone.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Or we could just sign Corey Graham already ....

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Ditto on the Haynesworth, but you all prob know my stance on that issue.

    No trading down, please. As a matter of fact, I would like them to trade UP, package T.Harris, and if we have to, Manu or Chester. Time to trim the fat, and I'm not sentimental about them like Clark.

    I have mixed feelings about Peanut at FS. He barely survives the season at CB, imagine when AP puts his head down full speed at Peanut...However, Peanut has great instinct, is a pretty sure tackler, great turnover artist, and is getting a little slower...in other words, do we have another Mike Brown in him?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Tommie Harris is Audi. No way they pick up his tab, there was talk of dealing him instead of AB last year. Thing is we don't really have the guy to play the signature cover 2 position one he's gone - so we do need a good tackle. I thought our DL pretty much sucked overall this year, didn't you guys?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Yep. Cept for pep and flashes of izzy. The young guys also showed flashes but not nearly strong and consistent enough.

    Still... OL,OL,OL,OL,OL... Then maybe dl or db. Fix what's broke first, the get the good to great

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Getting married Doc or is the wifey gone without you?

  • In reply to jbenton:

    The latter.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    Not happy but not depressed either. That's described Lovie's tenure for me. He doesn't ever excite me as he is as bland as my wifes meatloaf. He's had some success and some failures and can be an arrogant douche in his press conferences. He wins and the players seem to love him so I guess it could be worse. We could have McDaniels or someone else like him.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    I love my wife's meatloaf. I don't love Lovie, but I think he's a good leader and I'm not horrified at the decision.

    McDaniels would destroy this team, even if he didn't have history with Cutler. We don't need a McDaniels, we don't need a Bellichek. We're a lot like Pittsburgh, and Lovie isn't exactly Mike Tomlin, but he does have the right style.

    Trust your players. Make them trust you. And work for consistent chances to win, not the flashy blowouts.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I think you may have hit the nail on the head NBIT. I think Lovie with the right players is effective enough. Not great but effective. The problem lyes with the talent evaluation. the difference between us and Pittsburgh,New England and some others is their ability to bring in draft picks and plug them in and have them become successful starters. it just seems that Angelo or Lovie or both continue to ahve these failed projects that they ram down our throats year after year. That needs to stop now.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Yes. But that is more of an Angelo problem than a Lovie problem according to the general blog understanding. Whatever is going on with the team, we do need to improve our talent evaluations.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I guess I have a hard time believing that Lovie has no say so in who the team picks. I think both would have to take a fair share of the blame for that.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Sure, that's fair enough. But the GM is typically the guy with final say on acquisitions. And if it really is all Lovie's fault, we could certainly set up a system where Lovie is less involved in making the picks.

    You need the coach to tell you "I can work with this guy. He can play a role in our system. I can teach him and make him play his best." But you don't need the coach to be bringing in names and having a major role in choosing between prospects, etc. My understanding is that Lovie already doesn't do a ton of work on the draft, but I could be wrong.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    In no way do I think it's all Lovie's fault. In fact I think it should be mostly on the shoulders of Angelo. It would be nice if that information was divulged so we would know who to blame though. I just think the combination of Lovie and JA is the equivalent of dumb and dumber when it comes to the draft.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Mike Mayock. How much would it cost to rent the guy's opinion around draft time?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Mike Mayock is probably my favorite guy actively doing football commentary.

    With that said, there is likely a reason why he's not coaching or working for a team. The salaries tend to be a lot better, but the hours are a lot longer too. He either doesn't want it, or there's something else wrong.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    At least we can stop tossing the Lovie log around the fire now. Two more years. Couple linemen, couple receivers, lots of luck, and there might be a super bowl in this bitch yet.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, that's the fucking spirit boyo. I love it. You're damn right we have a shot at this.

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