The Tale of Two Quarterbacks

Boston College's Matt Hasselbeck (who now wants to go by Matthew) was drafted in the sixth round of the 1998 NFL Draft by Packers head coach Mike Holmgren, the only man to attend his pro day.  He signed to the practice squad and became one of many backups to Richard Photographs before following Holmgren to Seattle and embarking on one of the most underrated NFL careers in recent memory.  Three Pro Bowls.  One All-Pro selection.  One conference championship.  And he was robbed of a Super Bowl ring by the gentlemen with the yellow flags in their pockets.

Vanderbilt's Jay Cutler was the eleventh overall selection in he 2006 Draft, earning the admiration of Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan with his intelligence and superior arm strength.  He became the starter almost immediately, replacing the ineffective and (it turns out crazy) Jake Plummer.  He was selected to the 2008 Pro Bowl .  But 2010 was his first winning season as a full-time starter and he is now poised to do what so few have done in navy and orange: quarterback the Chicago Bears to the Super Bowl.

We can break down (and we will) this Bears/Seahawks game for the next six days but ultimately it will be decided by the two signal callers.  The Bears have the better defense and special teams.  The Bears have the better run game.  This Sunday, at Soldier Field, it will be these two quarterbacks who decide the 2010 fate of their franchises.  Can Hasselbeck continue his magic and improve upon what was the finest performance of his career, Saturday against the Saints?  Can Cutler refrain from the type of turnover that will keep the door open to the ten-point underdog 'Hawks?  Cutler doesn't have to be brilliant Sunday for the Bears to win.  He has to be mistake-free.  He has to be efficient.  Hasselbeck has to be great.  He has to be flawless.  

It is the great internal drama of Sunday's almost-improbable contest between the Seahawks and Bears.  (In fact many of you criticized my writing a piece last week analyzing Seattle as a potential opponent.)  These two quarterbacks, one on the last year of his contract in the great northwest and one at the beginning of what will hopefully be a long tenure in Chicago, fighting conventional wisdom and expectations to lead their team into a position no one believed possible at the start of the season.
Bears fans must hope the kid from Vanderbilt sends the old man from Boston College to an early retirement.

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  • Let me be the FIRST to vote for early retirement.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Move to Greece ya Bum. Work does the soul good.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hasselbeck's, not mine ya grump.

    lol.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Arbeit macht frei?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Work and you shall be free?

    Gotta love private school education.

    Eine Kleine Nacht Musik?

  • SECOND time we meet these chumps better end with them pimping off the field in utter defeat and destruction.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Uuuhhhh... that's supposed to be an "l"... been reading too many of '85's posts obviously.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    chimps?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    You can limp and pimp...at least that's what Starsky and Hutch taught me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And Buck from the last thread:

    1. I responded to your Jerry nagelo post (shocking I know)

    2. Cups - Brilliant! It's all about the girth Buck. You heard it here.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When I think of Matt Hassleback, I think of this, and this only....

    The 2003 divisional playoff game against the Green Bay Packers went into overtime where, at the overtime coin toss, Hasselbeck infamously, said "We want the ball, and we

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    When I think of Matt Hasselbeck I think of the four TDs he just threw against the NFL's stingiest pass defense. They allowed 13 TDs through the air all year long, and then give up nearly a third of that in one game. People are looking ahead to the NFC champs game when we have a serious opponent - who've already beaten us - still to play.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jim_trotter/01/08/saints.hawks.insider/index.html?eref=sihp

    Two games like that in a row? No way.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Richard Photographs. har har har

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    He looked that up on Dickipedia.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This is gonna be a long week. I am already Geeked for Sunday.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I didn't predict a Seahawks' victory Saturday, but I did say that 10 points was too much to lay for a team on the road whose running game was mostly on IR and whose QB was channeling "Bad Narcissus' lately.

    Hopefully the Bears front 7 will let Marshawn Lynch know, early on,
    that "You aren't facing the Saints in Seattle anymore, son".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I am so with you, Al. I was cheering him on Saturday, but that was all the love he's getting from me. I hope they knock the little blonde ends off his extensions.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Amen, sister! Gawd it's great to have girls on here pointing that shit out for the clueless like me...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Dave, dude... we need to get you a ladyfriend. When's your birthday... now that's a DBB cause I can get behind.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    There may be girls, SC, but I'm a woman.

    And I think I'm about the only one who bugs you guys on a daily basis....

    But, um, come on man! Didn't you see his hair?

  • In reply to sjvl:

    It was kinda nice. He's the kind of back we should have picked up, not a Forte clone.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Lizzy Hasselbeck may have been the token red-stater on the View, but in her Survivor pre-baby mamma days, she was hot.

    I wonder how crome dome sealed that deal. Maybe a Uncle Ronny impression in the sack sealed it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i think she is married to the other, less successful Hasselbeck.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    affirmative

  • In reply to gpldan:

    this week can't end fast enough. i need to watch Peppers get all abusive on Hasselbeck. Fucking quicks passes have to go through Briggsy now instead of Iwuh. ruh roh. Marinara, tell the boys to put their hands up. Izzy and Pep are fucking 6'7 for gods sake. Bat the ball down!!!!
    I predict Pep INT this week. Hester return TD and Bennett with 8 catches 6 for 1st downs. Forte will get 22 carries for 120 and 6 receptions. Cutty will go 18 for 29 for 250 with 2 td's and one pick. Martz will come off my list of dudes i need to kill.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Honestly, I think the Bears O is going to have to win this game. We need 38 points for me to be comfortable. That rainbow shit Hasselbeck was doing was fucking scary.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Could you be a bit more specific on how you think the game will go, waffle ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hee hee

  • In reply to gpldan:

    he will also come off of the "wives i need to bang to break up their marriages" list but only after we beat GB in the NFC championship. I'm still pissed we gave it away to them by getting pass boners against them instead of jamming it down their throats. Forte was killing them and we just fucking pissed it away. Martz!!!! If you don't want to have your marriage ended in a homemade sex video scandal all you have to do is run a balanced yet creative gameplan. Oh, and give me a Hester reverse or a Forte halfback pass. Dude can do everything else. He has to be able to throw. Seahawks dead.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Dude, you were willing to do the nasty with Mrs. Martz just to save us the iniquity of another season of him as OC, if he fucks this game up?

    (going with the Boehner tears here)

    That's beautiful man.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    SMH.......

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Lovie says if everybody really really tries hard, then he'll be happy win or lose...

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/01/lovie-confident-bears-will-give-our-best-effort.html

    Lovie then sat down and changed his tennis shows back into some loafers and answered the door, because it was Speedy Delivery Man with a package for him...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Manumaleuna was a Martz gotta-have and there really isn

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    i know he was supposed to shore up the pass protection but his impact has come in the run blocking dept. He is opening holes on most of Forte's big runs. For what he is being paid though he needs to do it on passes too.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    agreed. On the not much mentioned side of things, GReg has improved rather significantly in his blocking this year. He still has a ways to go, but he's moving in the right direction.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    But is invisible every second game. 7 games = one catch or less.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/playoffodds

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Wow, Bears at 92.1% to beat Seattle? And member that the FO algorithm has hated the Bears all season long. It must reaaaally hate the Chickenhawks.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    That is one bullshit stat. I think that algorithm looks like :

    RAND(Bears, Seahawks)

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Where in the fuck is Crown? Anyone hear from him? Any theories?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I hope he didn't get that ass kicking Doc was talking about. How long has he been missing in action ?

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Yeah, he's been out since before the break.

    Hope he's skiing in Chamonix and not sleeping with the fishes.

    Common Crown, we're starting to worry.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6007800

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Any word on the weather for next Sunday?

  • In reply to jdawg:

    snow and 20 degeees

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    There goes the pass rush ...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Bears all healthy:

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/01/bears-at-full-strength-in-preparation-for-seahawks.html

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    healthy = victory

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    None that aren't slanderous Coach.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    How dare you test my math GPL. Loss of down, 15 yard penalty.

    Its a bit misleading, but unless they make it to the superbowl and the superbowl gets cancelled, I be right.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    you be big right chief!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Need to speak up ... YO! CROWN !!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Fun facts

    The Seahawks need to win the Superbowl in order to end the season with a winning record.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hmmm.

    They are 8-9 now. If they beat the Bears, they are .500.
    Then they win the NFC Championship game, they are 10-9.

    The Superbowl would make them 11-9.

    So, I'm going with fun but wrong on that one.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No, it's right. As you noted, they have to win the next two games to get to a winning record. If they do so, they go to the Superbowl. But if they lose the SB, they finish 10-10, and fail to end to season with a winning record.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Not often you can catch GPL, but you got him on that one!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    If they win the Superbowl, they still had a losing record.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Oh me two wrongy dongy

    end the season is arguable as to the Super Bowl being the season, but okay

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Did I misread that or are we the favorite to win the NFC Championship?

  • In reply to BossBear90:

    Yep. They think our D is more veteran savy and that someone will kick to Hester.

  • In reply to BossBear90:

    Sort of......all though, I'm sure no matter what happens, we'll be underdogs next week according to those statistics. But out of the four teams, we have the best odds (as of right now) because our path is much easier than either the saints or the falcons. But most likely the winner of that game with be the Football Outsiders' favorite to win the championship. And probably Vegas' favorite too.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    packers or falcons*

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    lol at the "A.J. Smith Mistakes Revisited" SB choice. how does that clown still have a job in the NFL?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The rush men need to show up Sunday, I don't recall Hasslebeck being pressured or sacked the first time around, and Peppers got manhandled by a rookie. Any thoughts on the videos Marinelli will be showing this week?

  • In reply to GetsomeBears:

    That's what scares me man. They had all the answers for our DL. They ran all over us, passed how they liked ... it's all down to our offense. We have to light them up.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It it mere coincidence Boehner is not far removed from Boner?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    In his case, no. Definitely not.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    DBB Game of the Day: Caption this picture

    http://beargoggleson.com/files/2010/12/martz-and-belichick.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You have to be cheating.. come on...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "You do have such a marvelously firm right buttock, Bill."
    "Mmmmm... oh Mike"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "I admire you so much, I want to be just like you".
    "Oh, no, you are fabulous. So much better than me".

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bill: "Mike, you can let go of my hand now. Mike, you're hurting me."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The first game against the Seabirds was "Pre-Martz-Bye-Week-Run-the-Ball-More Epiphany".

  • In reply to gpldan:

    She's still hot GP

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    affirmative

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I have a total Bears crush on Cutler! :)
    Go Bears!

  • In reply to sadsweeper:

    O-M-G!!!! Congratulations!

    Fail.

    Sorry Dave.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Shot down!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Just a packer troll '85... or just lame. Either way not interested.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Your so hormone impaired 85. Oh I long for those days again!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Offensive line of the SeaChickens after Sunday's game:

    http://photos.travelblog.org/Photos/5118/61417/t/361273-I-feel-like-chicken-tonight-chicken-tonight-1.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    R.O.F.L.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No foul on the play, ball carrier was still in bounds when contact was made.

  • In reply to sadsweeper:

    Chico..going to Car?

    It sounds like a possible media 1/11/11 frenzy!!!

    Good for Chico..well deserved...How many of the 85 team are coaches..including the Arena Football. What a Special Team that was in 85' and still continuing their presence in the future!!!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    it would have been 3 in the NFL, but 2 will do just fine (and we need to get Samurai in as an LB coach)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I really don't think Singletary is cut out for it. Good players do not necessarily make good coaches.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Ray Lewis credits Singletary's coaching for making him the linebacker he is today. Nuff said SC

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    +1 murph...was he not the LB coach 2003

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Coaching tree

    NFL head coaches under whom Mike Singletary was a player:
    Mike Ditka, Chicago Bears (1982

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    How about asst coaches??? etc....

    Is mango a coach in the Arena Football League?
    and what assoc does Jimmy Mac have w the AFL

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    He can coach LB ok. If Ray Ray says he made him a better player then that'll do for me.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    rumors that fraz..was interested in him as LB for the Queens.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    He's going to Minny, Frazier had him in.

  • In reply to sadsweeper:

    So do we. This is a 'Bear' Bears site, if you catch my drift.
    Camp as little row of teepees on here ... yooouuuuuhoooooo !

    Anyone seen my sequined slingbacks ? I'll just die if I have to wer this with wedges. Holl-ller !

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    And come on now, just because Jake Plummer went all Juaquin "I'm Still Here" Phoenix with the beard and the seclusion/oddness into mountain man status, I don't know that we necessarily assign the Unabomber tag to him.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Somebody had to buy that cabin after all.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    lol... that shit is funny

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dude! JP is like a fucking worldclass handball player now isn't he? I think I read that somewhere.

    Takes a true athlete to play a ball game without any equipment but a glove and a paid of dolphin shorts. Right? Right? Can I get a HELL YES! ?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Pair" god damn it!

    Holy shit, not only that but it's FOUR-WALL handball no less!

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Ex-NFL-QB-Jake-Plummer-is-playing-a-new-sport-th?urn=nfl-282499

    "Since his unofficial NFL retirement, Plummer is an avid player of four-wall handball. Jake attended his first professional handball tournament in 2007 when he entered the Simple Green US Open of Handball (with brother Eric) in the pro doubles division; eventually losing to future Hall of Fame members John Bike and Danny Bell. In 2008 Jake Plummer hosted his own pro invitational and lost in the finals of the pro consulation bracket to #37 ranked, Jeff Kastner. Jake Plummer played and lost in the semifinals versus brother Eric Plummer (eventual champion) at this year's 2008 Idaho State Singles Championships.[10][11]"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It would be cool if they painted each of the four walls a primary color + black. And then put a strobe light on.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Would that be like one of the 'shroom enhanced Floyd concerts extolled a couple threads back?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Or if the ball was a live grenade with longer fuse. I'd watch it then.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This team has got to feel great about coming to a team that they beat and thinks that they can't lose to a 7-9 team now

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Affirmative Artoo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I heard Rex Ryan, in an effort to tide the controversy, praised Tom Brady's footwork.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, only you would notice and say that joke lol

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hell yes for playing with one's balls with their hands...no special equipment required.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Hee hee

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Can we stop Lynch? last time we played them, he did an ok job. And dont forget Williams chewed up our Cover 2 scheme.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    That's the thing Fres, he gashed us. And there is no answer to quality 6'5 receivers - they're always open. Something Angelo doesn't seem to get. I'd rather have played the Saints.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    "You're treating your body like an amusement park!!!"

    Who said it?

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Mrs. Costanza. Estelle?

  • In reply to sjvl:

    I wouldn't agree that we have a better running game. Seattle's line is a completely different proposition at this point. A league leading 15 different lineups saw to that. Even so, they scored 33% more rushing TDs than we did in the regular season. They have a change-up of backs, we don't. We have small, and smaller. They can protect their capable QB, and they have good receivers around him, most crucially the 6'5 Mike Williams - giving them a jump ball target that we don't possess. So let's see what Seattle have got so far ... good line, good QB, good receivers, can pound the rock. And we have ? Bad line, good QB who will stop drives by forcing it, poor receivers, and we cannot pound the rock. Hmmm. We also have a defense predicated on our ability to rush the passer - something we haven't done recently given the disappearance of Julius Peppers. Warning. Danger Will Robinson. Danger.

    So in order for us to win, we need Jay to be mistake-free and Jules to turn up? Hope springs eternal. On the betting side, the Hawks are a great bet.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Forte is 6'2" and 218. Taylor is 5'11" and 213. If that's small and smaller I must be really out of touch. I get your point about change of pace/big bruiser back but Forte is not small.

    The first game Cutler was still in la-la land, Martz had his head up his ass and the D played the second worst game of the season (it was Pep's worst game). Iwuh was in for Briggs and the dropoff was not unlike the drop off from #54 to Hunter S. Horseshit. They still only beat us by 3 points. I'm not saying we smoke 'em but I like our chances. A lot.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Jessica Alba's jealous girlfriend.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It was his love affair with handball that secured that tag for me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So what's the dealy with Mr. Phoenix. Anyone buy that "I was kidding guys!" story ? He looked pretty high on Letterman? Not acting high, but ripped. Anyone see the movie yet?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And re mountain man/bearded one syndrome, I'd say Ricky Williams was unfairly ridiculed when he walked away from the bubble of life in the NFL and went off to discover what actually matters. I thought that was cool. Run Ricky Run was a sweet documentary, he's a cool guy. The Anti Joe Theishole.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think lynch and williams are going to make the difference between losing and winning. Ohh and stokley didn't look to shabby either

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Professional receivers Artoo. Professional.

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