Audibles From the Long Snapper: Bears Edition

Method to Angelo's Madness?

Dan Pompei writes an interesting piece in the Trib, analyzing the appropriation of finances over the past year that enabled Jerry Angelo to build an intriguing roster of bona fide stars and workmanlike role players.  
The Bears got more out of players this year because part of their vision was to improve the coaching and make a re-commitment to player development. In the past, it's possible that some of the young players who contributed this year never would have seen the field. This time, they were given opportunity and better coaching.
That the Bears ended up with is an effective blend of high-priced players and low-priced ones, experienced vets and developing young guys.

I agree with Pompei for the most part but it is impossible to ignore that Angelo's strategy has left a very talented Chicago Bears team with the worst offensive line remaining in the postseason.  It could mean he is one offseason from building a champion but it currently means he is paying millions of dollars to five guys who block like my grandmother.


Why I Want Access to Game Film
Cutler held the ball for six seconds on one and tight endBrandon Manumaleuna missed a block on one by Charles Woodson. Tackles Frank Omiyale and J'Marcus Webb were late out of their stances for a sack each, something that can be attributed to the crowd noise that was a significant factor. Webb gave up another when he was asked to solo block Clay Matthews on a third-and-18 play, a call the coaches surely wish they had back.

I don't have anything to add to that.  Just find it very interesting.


PFT's Mike Florio...Beyond Lost
In an article on Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio cites a Jeff Dickerson story reporting that Lovie Smith & Co. are preparing the Bears to face the Saints in the Divisonal Round.  Florio believes this "means that the Bears believe the Saints will beat the Seahawks - and that the Packers will beat the Eagles."  Really, Mike?  You couldn't do the research required to look at the Bears schedule and realize that they've already played the other two possible opponents?  You couldn't draw the conclusion that perhaps they're preparing for the Saints because they've already prepared for the other two this year?  As always, PFT is excellent with news and garbage with analysis.

I select my Bears Regular Season Award Winners on the B-side.

The Tom Waddle Awards

Coach of the Year: Rod Marinelli, Defensive Coordinator
Marinelli turned a defense that seemed content to sit back in soft coverage while good quarterbacks moved the ball at will and reignited some of the ferociousness that marked the best years of Bears defending.  The pass rush is better.  The tackling is better.  The discipline is sound, if spotty of late downfield.  Marinelli has proven why he was given the Lions head coaching job.

MVP: Devin Hester
Also evolving as a wide receiver, Hester's renaissance as a kickoff return man seemed to reinvigorate his performances on punts as well.  When Hester is a threat - as he's been since the bye week - the Bears perplex opposing coaching staffs and win the field position battle each week.  I believe simply that he's the most exciting player in the sport and he clearly inspires his teammates.

Offensive POY: Jay Cutler
261-432 for 3,274 yards.  23 touchdowns.  16 interceptions, which is ten less than a year ago.  All this while enduring 52 sacks behind a shaky-at-best offensive line.  Jay Cutler hasn't risen to the level of elite NFL quarterback but he certainly took strides in that direction as he showcased his elusiveness and arm strength, leading the most productive Bears offense in years.  Now he enters his first postseason.  Where quarterbacks make their marks.  What will his be?

Defensive POY: Julius Peppers
He made everyone better.  And that is the mark of a superstar player.

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  • First to say, I love Jerry's kids.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Damn you viva.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and not for the first

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Doh!

  • I second that motion

  • Outstanding post Jeff. I love this line the best.

    "Jay Cutler hasn't risen to the level of elite NFL quarterback but he certainly took strides in that direction as he showcased his elusiveness and arm strength, leading the most productive Bears offense in years."

    Now imagine if he had a good Offensive line in front of him. WOOD!

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    I don't want arm-strength showcased. Lombardis, yes.

  • We hashed over Pompei's article in the last thread. Nothing really new to add. Have to agree with you on your Waddle awards.

    Wish we had a line. Maybe next year. Don't think there will be any free agency next year. There is talk that a possible extension of current collective bargaining rules will take place until a new one is hashed out. Ain't no way there will be a work stoppage. Not unless these guys are insane.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Coach of the Year : Sideline Yoda. Rod Carbonara.

    Overall MVP : Urlacher.

    Defensive MVP : Urlacher.

    Offensive MVP : Urlacher.

    Every single game. Every. Single. Game. Name another player that was there for us and never took a game off.

  • ANYTIME you wanna bang on "Make-it-Up-Mike" Florio, fine by me, Blogfather!

    I realize it's a lower standard of achievement, but Jay Cutler HAS "risen to the level of ELITE" among the "glorious" pantheon of of Chicago Bears' Quarterbacks.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    amen

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Somebody needs to define 'elite' methinks. Anyone ? Let me start the ball rolling ... an elite QB is a guy who ...

    * you can depend on to do the right thing.
    * Can throw for a lot of yards regardless.
    * Can throw for a lot of TDs regardless.
    * Keeps interceptions to a minimum - doesn't hurt his team.
    * Inspires the players around him.
    * Makes his team-mates better than they are.

    I've got Cutler nailing one of those categories. Anyone? Bueller?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    One thing that stands out about this team is their determination. They don't celebrate much after a touchdown or victory. They are on a mission. The Bears have the will to win the Super Bowl this year!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I attribute that mostly to Pep, Lach, and Olin. These guys are getting up there, and the time to be champions is NOW.

  • Below are John Elways stats from his career. It just goes to show you that picks to TD ratio doesn't mean shit in the long run as Elway is considered elite. What does this mean? To me it means Cutlers picks don't mean as much as we think they do but until he wins some playoff games we're never going to hear that Cutler is an elite quarterback. I was shocked to see some of Elways totals. 79 quarterback rating for his career. Funny how it works, Marino's stats are far better but I would take Elway to win a game. Gives me a lot of hope for Cutler.

    TD Int
    7 14
    18 15
    22 23
    19 13
    19 12
    17 19
    18 18
    15 14
    13 12
    10 17
    25

  • In reply to jbenton:

    He had 625 TD passes one year? 25 squared.

    Incidentally, when you run the football well (Terrell Davis + awesome O-line, Gary Zimmerman was fucking superb at LT [joining Denver the very same year his stats started to look good, imagine THAT] and say what you want about Mark Schlereth as a personality on ESPN, but the dude could fucking block in those later Elway years), and one of the best tight ends to ever play football, it becomes a lot easier to throw TDs and not throw interceptions.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Oh yeah, forgot about Tom Nalen as well. Those dudes were fucking GREAT.

    Behind every hall of fame QB and RB is a fucking superb offensive line.

    And, this is not a knock on Walter or anything, but Neal Anderson running behind the same line produced just as well as oh holy one in 1987. Just sayin'.

    Covert, Bortz, Hilgenberg, Thayer, and Van Horne are absolutely the most underrated part about the '85 Bears. All between 24 and 28 years old. They were amazing. All started nearly every game. Only Covert missed one. They are the reason we even mention Neal Anderson, by the way. Seriously, he was good and all, but pretty much any college RB would gain 1200+ yards behind those dudes in their prime.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Not underrated in my mind. The Bears behind those guys led the NFL in rushing 4 years in a row iirc.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Correction: Underrated to the rest of the world outside of actual knowledgeable Bears fans.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Whoa. Whoa. WHOAAA!! Neal Anderson dude. Whoa! WHOA!! Take it back. Take it back. Sacrilege! Nothing without his blockers? WHAAAT!? The man was awesome. For your sins, go an youtube him now and check out the maddest skills seen at RB since Walter himself. Madden said there were none better. Give the guy half an inch and he was gone. He turned the corner and he was gone. Very deceptive speed, great receiver, powerful .. no, if you want to talk over-rated-thanks-to-his-line go check out Emmitt Smith. Neal was the man.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJJ4nne-D8o&playnext=1&list=PLB2AEB3EB46B1B0F0&index=26

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    do you notice Irish, dudes back then just ran much harder. seemed to not stop until they were driven into the turf or out of bounds? Just different.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Like Christian Okoye? Tee-hee!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I knew that would rile you up.

    Neal Anderson was A man.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Mike... this team would be so so so much better this year if jerry would just have fixed the glaring holes in this team's roster in the off season (as jeff points out) like we had all been screaming about. As Martz said in the preseason, it all starts and ends with the oline.

    THIS is the core reason why I just can't understand all the Angelo love. Anyway

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No love for Angelo just a call for thoughtfulness and a warning to be careful what you wish for. Elite QBs, Head Coaches and GMs do not pop up every day. Can we be sure we wouldn't end up with something worse than Jerry Angelo if we dumped him? No way.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I don't know buck, I think if a guy can't look at a squad and go, "Oh shit, our oline was abysmal last year... meh, let's just leave it alone aside from adding a 7th round rookie and see if it ends up being a probowl unit."

    How do you get past that? I think my grandmother could have gone, "huh, looks like we need an oline this year"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you guys have to remember. it was reported often that he was told by coaches that the o-line was fine. they were content with the players on the roster as early as june.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Then those coaches should also be let go. Are you saying Tice? I just can't believe that's true Jeff.

    We all knew that our oline was anemic at best. We are terrible.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I think a lot of that, along with talking up the wide receivers, was primarily intended to instill confidence in the younger players.

    These guys, with a couple of linemen (hopefully) are the core of the Bears for the next several years.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Chicago Bears general manager Jerry Angelo put one rumor to rest, saying he has no plans to step aside after this season.

    If anything, he seems rejuvenated.

    Read more: http://nationalpost.stats.com/fb/story.asp?i=20110106151310592638808#ixzz1AIm9tGmy

    Waddaya think of that?

  • In reply to sjvl:

    aww shit!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    well let me take that back and say this. If Angelo can up his game in the early draft, then I would view him a whole lot different. But until then, I say NO.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    we all knew this right? Until the McCaskey's sell, we're stuck with the mediocre.

    Look, if the guy can pull his head out of his juust ass long enough to finally get us a fucking real oline, a decent #1-type WR for cutty, and maybe a real FS that can come in and lead/start right away (not a rookie), we should be good again next year

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    McCaskeys sell????

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Never gonna happen.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Scene: Senior Seminar - Stanford University

    Professor: Any questions?

    Andrew Luck: Basically what's this all about?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How many years drafts is that though?

  • In reply to sjvl:

    I say it's not his decision whether he's hear next year or not. Fire him. ti would be worth his salary in the good players we can pick rather than the busts that will cost us down the line.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Lovie says the way to gauge toughness is by taking a look at your cornerbacks.

    Looking at you PEANUT!!!!! Yes, I am in love with that man.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post?id=4669061

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    When Angelo knows we need something he does go and get it. If the coaches thought they were good to go with that line, thats what they go with. Who thought Chris Williams would regress? He finishes out last year looking pretty damn promising, this year? He signed Tait, Fred Miller, Roberto Garza, John St. Clair for the 05 team. He went out and got some players and filled some holes. Hes pulled off some good deals. I have to agree, you never know what ya got till its gone.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    This is what went down Murph.

    Angelo: Mr. Tice,if you think you can whip our line into shape and give us a solid O-line, you got the job.

    Tice: Absolutely Mr. Angelo, those guys are studs.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    are u sure he didnt say DUDS? Tice has done a great Job with our OLINE. I cant wait to see this offense when it has a real Oline.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/06/report-josh-mcdaniels-to-meet-with-vikings/

    K.O. may be coming back to the NFC North

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    My Eagles friend (I only have one) is praying that Childress doesn't hook up with Andy Reid in Philly.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I've been saying that for a month. Frasier is going to go after Orton as his #1 priority this off season

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Beautiful. If McTard signs with the Vikings we'll have no trouble with them for as long as he stays. We can trade him Olsen for AP. It would be like having Taco in your fantasy league.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    New overtime rules for playoffs? Thats what I been hearing

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Yeah they were kicking that idea around last year but said it would only apply to the playoffs for this season.
    Got to keep the advertisers happy with a few more repeats with an extended game...you know.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    New O.T. Rules - Gosh, I don't suppose there will be much discussion about this on the game coverage.

    Any possibility of the Bears getting a very late draft pick that turns out to be an N.F.L. championship player(s)? - You know like the Patriot or Colts always scout that is - some chump drafted thirty-second that turns out to be one hell of a player.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Re-Draft: - I guess I should have been watching the last six weeks of college bowl games on ESPN for those draft picks. Maybe we will miss some draftee in the White Cheddar Cheese Popcorn Bowl.

    Wasn't the Kraft - Macaroni and Cheese Bowl - six weeks ago or did I give that to my grandson for lunch.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I agree...and people forget that the O-line looked vastly improved in the last four games last year...although the starting point was pretty bad to begin with, so maybe we didn't think that all the way through.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    If he can't spot a shit O-line then he's in the wrong job. We're all amateurs and we can tell it's a shit line, he gets paid millions of dollars for his highly sought after 'professional' opinion. He's the talent evaluator, he's the damn GM !! Noone listens to Tice. Tice graded Kevin Shaffer out as our second best lineman - where is he ? Do we know better than Mike Tice?

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I can't honestly see how we could get a *worse* GM Buck. Not unless they hired Josh McDaniels.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Mike... this team would be so so so much better this year if jerry would just have fixed the glaring holes in this team's roster in the off season (as jeff points out) like we had all been screaming about. As Martz said in the preseason, it all starts and ends with the oline.

    THIS is the core reason why I just can't understand all the Angelo love. Anyway

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Has a consensus #1 overall EVER opted out?

    Al?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, fucken A... punch that ticket kid. I've seen the Stanford Cheerleaders, and that alone is a good reason to get the hell out of there... never mind the 8 figure payday. Jesus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Would you really go to Carolina if you didn't have to. Dude may have just added 5 years to his NFL career by taking a pass this year.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Common trac... to be honest, I'd play the rest of my career for the #32 team in the league for the kind of money he'll command.

    I'm not all about money at all, but you only usually get one shot. A WHOLE lot can change in a year. And you just never know what will happen or for that matter, who would trade up for him, etc... etc...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't think the kid grew up eating on paper plates MB. Some of these guys have a well rounded up bringing and they make decisions for various reasons. I admire his patience. Knowing what I know about life at my age, I can't say I wouldn't have done the same. I think its a smart decision if he doesn't think he will graduate this year. He could turn out to be another

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    He could turn out to be another bust no matter when he comes out.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I get that trac, but still. At this stage in my life I've also learned that in the dessert, you better damn well drink when you have the opty.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I definitely hear you on that one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bingo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Peppers could take another day there.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aha. The thing is you wouldn't play the rest of your career for the #32 team in the NFL, MB. The QB is the scapegoat, you'll never shine as QB on a crappy team, you'd get airlocked as soon as your contract was up.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Ok, so I'll take the $XX Million dollar guaranteed cash and go scratch my balls on the fucking beach on some island.

    Thanks for playing everyone, I can be reached be satellite phone at: 1-888-fuck-you.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There is that too. I guess Jamarcus Fatboy doesn't need to work again.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Anyone see what Miami did to Sparano? After Harbaugh and Gruden turned them down, they then decide to keep Sparano. What a slap in the face. Id be pissed!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    But employed.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Is this Luck kid allt hat? I don't pay any attention to College ball. Just checked out his highlights and all I saw was him hitting 7 yard out patterns and guys that were wide open.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I think he's the real deal.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Chances are he'll be going to a crap team next year anyway, unless his stock takes a precipitous drop after next season.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    The first pick next year mightn't want to take a QB, and he could end up on a team like the Niners with serious upside.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Carolina doesn't have as many missing pieces as you think. They just are awful at the QB position.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I don't THINK so, at least in the modern era.

    The 1st Heisman winner (1935), Jay Berwanger from the University of Chicago, was the #1 pick in the NFL's first common draft in 1936 but he said he wasn't interested in Pro Football (which still had kind of a sketchy rep in the 30s).

    He went on to a very successful business career.

    Nearest I can recall is Nebraska's Johnny Rodgers. He was the #1 pick of the Chargers in 1973 (25th overall) but signed with Montreal of the CFL.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Berwanger

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Herschel Walker started out in the USFL. The Cowboys then drafted him in the fifth round after a few years and then made the greatest trade in NFL history.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Dude only did like 1,000,000 pushups and situps a day, honest...

    ...oh, and he mainlined Winstrol every night, but that's neither here nor there.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    What the hell... damn it. Flag on the play. Sorry.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    http://www.collegefantasyfootballinsider.com/news/24651/Andrew-Luck-coming-back- next-year

    GPLD-

    Thats what makes me think harbaugh is telling him "lets come back together and win a national championship"

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dm, would you?

    I'd tell Jimmy to go suck an egg man. Serious bodily harm is only one play away in this game. Trust me, I know... or ask Johnny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    um yeah

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Or he doesn't want to go to Carolina.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    nice

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Agree with most of your post Jeff, but Lovie is the coach of the year on this team. During the bye week, he took Martz into his office and said, "looky here Mikey boy, run the fucking ball" That along with Hester re-locating his magic shoes are the reason why were in the playoffs.

    I don't want to take anything away from Marinneli, but the defense just got the leagues most domintent D end and Urlacher back from injury. The D is much improved this year even if Babbich were running it.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    My spelling needs work...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I can spell.

    I just can't type and my proofreading sucks.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    MB-

    I'd take the money all day. Most notably because after the new CBA is in place, the rookies are going to be on some sort of much MUCH tighter wage scale. He's losing 20 million at least.

    THAT being said, I kind of commend the kid for wanting to finish his degree in "Architectual Design". Thats pretty impressive. To those who say, "just go back later and get your degree"...I dont know in my experience the day I left college (thankfully graduated) I never wanted to step foot in a classroom again. Going back is easier said than done.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hmmmm... my bro went to UCLA and was good friends with Donnie Edwards (actually DE was his 'little bro' in his frat), those guys literally didn't have to go to class much and they all mysteriously got As and Bs. Seriously, these guys don't do much in class. Not sure if they roll that way at the prestigious big "S", but I got to believe they're getting there with a now powerful unit.

    The net is that there is nothing this kid could ever do to get a payday like this in Architectural Design. Get the money, and finish later... bottom line. You don't pass that many 0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe money isnt a factor MB.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Berwanger. What an awesome name.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wouldnt say that Marinelli is coach of the year. The pieces were already their, and with the Bonus of Peppers. He still in fact runs Lovies philosophy.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Meaning coach of the year is .... ?

    Martz ? Nope. He cost us games and still does weird shit.

    Tice? Nope. We have one of the worst lines in the league. So did KC two years ago, but through coaching and strategy (not FA additions) they are now the #1. It can be done.

    Who's left? Toub ? returns are good. Coverage isn't?

    Daryl Drake? Just kidding.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And please nobody say Lovie. Two games lost on two brain-dead decisions alone. And his choice not to take a FG to take the lead against Detroit would have cost us that game too, only for a weird NFL rule on receptions.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    JAY CUT SAID-

    We must conclude money isnt a factor...so I guess thats commendable? I dont know. I am fortunate enough to have some high net worth clients and I gotta tell you 20 million is a lot. Even to people who are multi millionaires...Thats some real paper.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Good point. Something Like i was trying to point across. School is the Ultimate goal.

  • In reply to Cutler2010:

    If school was the ultimate goal he wouldn't skip lectures to play wazzou

  • In reply to Dmband:

    So Luck enters the NFL next year and a Lawrence Taylor turns his leg into cooked spaghetti, what then ? TV job? Not likely. People automatically assume he would have been productive and raked in huge amounts of cash for years to come. Not so. He's looking after his future and covering his bases without leaving stuff to chance ... or there's other shit going on we don't know about it. Either way, he's not slicing his own throat open here. There's a good chance there's no football next year anyway. Owners can survive, can the majority of NFL players ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish - do you understand the part about a guaranteed signing bonus? Bradford's last year was $24 million UP FRONT. Cash on the barrelhead. And there's a good chance that if there is football next year, he won't be the consensus #1 pick again. He doesn't have to "rake in huge amounts of cash for years to come" because he'll be worth MORE than $20 million for just shaking Goodell's hand.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I know what guaranteed means, English is my first language. But clearly it's not that important to him. He's not going to forget how to play football between this year and next. Maybe he knows something we don't, as in there mightn't be any football next year. Would he get paid millions not to play football?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That makes him an idiot, to walk from $20M+ just to go back to school and finish his degree. No two ways to cut this.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Maybe he's just that principled/stupid.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Neal Anderson >>> Matt Forte

    That is all.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    On the issue with Chester Taylor. I read somewhere that his yards per carry number is the worst in the modern era by a running back with more than 100 carries in a season. Still trying to find that link.
    I believe the figure is 2.4 ypc and the previous low was 2.7ypc. That is pretty pathetic. I will say again that the offseason moves following the 2005 and 2006(Super Bowl) seasons are still haunting this franchise. To draft Cedric Benson instead of a top tier O-Lineman and then to deal Thomas Jones the next year. Just think if our running combo was Jones and Forte and we had at least 1 All Pro lineman lining up next to Kreutz. This would be a team going for its 2nd or 3rd Super Bowl appearance this decade. If you want to fire Jerry Angelo just over those moves (or lack thereof) then fine. But his record otherwise isn't terrible...suspect? Yes. Terrible? No.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Taylor's stats wouldn't have anything to do with one of the worst O-lines in the NFL blocking for him would it? Or the fact that when he comes on the field, everyone knows what's happening next ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Forte had his best statistical year as far as yards per carry. So the answer is that the secret sauce isn't just in the o-line its the back as well. Taylor has had opportunity and wasted it, period.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Hey Everybody! I used to read and post here quite a bit, but this season I have been pretty much just reading Jeff's analysis and staying quiet.

    Anyway, I don't want to highjack the thread, but I don't think I'm able to go to the Bears playoff game, so that means that I have 4 lower level, amazing tix available, and I'm going to let them go for about a third of what people are getting on ticketmasters ticketexchange.com...

    If your interested, send me an email at kidronmusic@hotmail.com
    Again, I don't want to take over this post, so I will only respond to email inquiries.

    BUT! The reason I'm posting here is because I want real Bears fans to go, I'm selling them for cheap on purpose, so I really don't want somebody to buy them from me and then put them up on ebay or craigslist to make a couple hundred extra bucks... This has been the home of passionate Bears fans since I started reading in early 2007, So I'm hoping somebody will love the opportunity.

    Anyway! Keep up the good work Jeff, the reason I don't post much anymore is because I usually agree with what you've said, and I feel like I don't need to add more. Good luck with the Theater world too! BEAR DOWN!

  • In reply to kidronmusic:

    You hooked me up with my Cutler jersey!!!

  • In reply to kidronmusic:

    That's awesome of you Kidron. I wish I lived near enough to consider it.

  • In reply to kidronmusic:

    awesome kidron!

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Only thing I have to add/edit is that I think you swap out Pep with Hester for MVP, give hester the comeback player award, and The hurt locker DPoY. Pep made a difference and had a huge impact one way or another in every single game for us. It took till the second half for Hester to brake a few and get his swagger back, and one of them (Seattle) was really too little too late to have an impact on the outcome (as a consolation prize, it was my favorite return of his this year as it also featured earl the pearl Bennett de-fucking-cleating the punter.)

    My $.02.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hester made a sick TD catch in week 2 against Dallas in a 7-point victory, and ran a punt back in week 3 against GB in a 3 point victory.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    good points, but my vote stands.

    Thanks Trac.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Again Trac-

    Carolina or not, its very likely under the new CBA that there is no 40 million dollar paydays (almost certainly he would get that contract similar to Matt Stafford) after that. Apparently thats one of the dealbreakers for owners. (see JaMarcus Russell)

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I can tell anyone that wants to listen,If that was my son i would tell him: Son,you are probably only going to get one shot to be picked #1 in the NFL draft. You will probably only get one chance to sign a multimillion dollar contract. You probably will have many years to contemplate your career after football.Now son what do you think you really ought to do?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Without Pep, the Bears don't go 500 this year. I would suggest that Hester's inspired play this year has alot to do with the fact that Peppers has re-invigorated the fire with his D play. I respect the vote though MB.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    First off, and it may not seem like it, but I love Pep. How could you not? But you could say the same about Urlacher and being over .500. I don't get the complete lack of love for Urlacher on here - and everybody blowing Jules. I point to Pep's stats for at least the first half of the year. Immediately I'll be jumped on with "Stats don't mean shit, it's the pressure man ... the pressure ...the double-teams" Well, okay, where has the pressure been coming from recently ? He was the 325th tackler in the NFL halfway through the year. I didn't know there were that many tacklers in the NFL. He had like two sacks for most of that. He doesn't call the plays. And Julius Peppers is *not* double-teamed on every play. Nowhere close. He regularly gets closed down one-on-one by a single LT or RT. This notion that he's somehow like Benn Grimm from the Fantastic Four is bullshit. You only have to go back and watch the last two games to see how untrue that is.

    Urlacher was off for a whole year and comes back like it ain't no thang. We go from worst ever defense to one of the best we've ever had, and it's just insulting to say that's because of Peppers. Pep is a part of it, that's all. So is Izzy who finally got his start, and was arguably contributing more tot he stat page than Peppers. Rod Maranelli has a lot to do with it also. Just because Julius is the new face this year, doesn't mean he's the cause of the D's success. He's a twelfth of it, Sideline Yoda being the 'plus one'.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I have never and would never diminish Urlacher. The dude is a freak and this D would lose more if it lost him than if it lost Peppers (not by a lot but still). He and Kreutz are the anchors of the locker room and I hate to see what happens when they are gone. There aren't that many Alpha dogs in that locker room without them.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As Hester was never away, comeback's got to go to Urlacher. Has to. Glad-you-went-away award goes to Hillenmeyer.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    damn, I was just thinking that our special teams cover units were missing Hunter this year.

  • In reply to Church:

    Right on, Ender. I really cannot understand all the hate directed at Hillenmeyer.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    It's the girlish way he played the Mike spot. He's built more like a big safety anyway.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    with the annoucement that Andrew Luck is returning to Stanford, can we draw the logical conclusion that Harbaugh isnt going anywhere?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Luck is an idiot, he's the consensus #1 overall. Where did you read that?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Is he an Idiot for wanting to return to COLLEGE for one more year? Football doesnt mean the world to some people, and achieving a higher education and living out his college tenure is probably more meaningful to the kid. Wouldn't go as far as to say he is an idiot, cause he doesnt coincide with your opinions.

  • In reply to Cutler2010:

    you baffle me

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    to be honest, i'm with GPLDAN. going back to college to get your degree is ludicrous. you have your whole life to take 8 classes.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I was saying you baffle me to JAY CUT SAID, I was agreeing with GP... in a big way (read up, and down)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    football doesnt mean everything. Some kids rather would enjoy their whole 4 years in college. You only live once. The draft isnt going anywhere. Dont be so baffled, put yourself in his shoes.

  • In reply to Cutler2010:

    The draft is not going anywhere, but the collective bargaining agreement is......off to a place where they will likely install rookie wage scales. This fucking moron just cost himself millions of dollars. Consensus number ones should never, ever, ever, return to college, especially when the team with the first pick comes at and says they're gonna draft him. Unbelievable. "Some kids" doesn't apply to number draft picks. Andrew Luck is not some kid.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Yep, he just gifted the second best QB in the 2011 draft an extra dozen or so million dollars.
    For being a Stanford man, he's acting really stupid.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Gotta agree with wrigley. Even if he turns out to be the next Matt Leinart he still banks a $20 mil singing bonus... Just hands down terrible terrible move. Hes an Architecture Design major, probably with a sub 3.0 gpa, not looking like a $20 million dollar career.

  • In reply to Cutler2010:

    +1
    Art Schlichter. Ryan Leaf. Alex Smith. David Carr. Tim Couch. jamarcus Russell. All first overall picks in the draft. What's he missing out on exactly? maybe he doesn't want to play in Carolina and doesn't want to be a little bitch like Elway after the draft.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I think it goes drastically unreported that the Bears are #1 in starting field position with a +30 I believe.

    To me that is the MAIN reason we won the division. Over a large sample size that starting field position will undoubtedly lead to more points than your opponent.

    Lets hope that trend continues.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Whole-heartedly agree

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I'll go with our defense, as having good starting positions still didn't help us with a woefully inept offense that was 10% on 3rd down conversions for the first half of the season. Fewest points allowed, ahrd to rush on, no-one better at getting teams off the field on 3rd down .. yup, defense.

  • In reply to Cutler2010:

    I agree with Jay Cutler said actually. Money is not the most important thing in the world. I would have a hard time leaving my teammates early. His money will come.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    that's my point Doc, it might not. Dude blows out his shoulder in game 3 next year and poof! there goes his money.

    Then it's making a buck tweny a year (or whatever a AD makes). Someone offerd my $40M to forgo my last year in college and I would have done it in a NY minute.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not saying you don't have a point, or that I wouldn't do the same thing. Just that, I get where he's coming from, and I don't see anything to foolish about it. If I thought I had a chance at a national championship (and I'm not saying he does) then I would probably stay with my teamates, being the biggest man on campus, getting all kinds of poon and tang, and enjoy the last youth-like year of my life. College is a blast. I can't imagine how great it must be if you're that dude. If his money doesn't come, he'll land a grad assistant coaching job and be the QB coach at Podunk-U, beginning a long anonymous coaching career with a side gig as Trent Dilfers head glosser on the 4 letter.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    I don't think the #1 pick in the NFL draft is going lack for any kinds of poon and tang nor be overburdened with responsibility.
    He's being an idiot.

  • In reply to DocNitty34:

    None of us knows what's going on in his life either. He's a young man and there are bound to be some issues in there somewhere. Life is hard.

  • In reply to Cutler2010:

    Yeah, Fres. Someone (not me) pointed it out in a previous thread. I regurgitate their info for your edification.

    You cannot win with a field goal on the first O.T. posession. Your opponent gets a possession to tie you with a FG or win the game with a TD. If they don't score, it's over. If they get 6, it's over. If they tie it up, it's sudden death rules again, likewise if the team getting the ball first doesn't score it's sudden death from there on. For Playoff O.T.s ONLY, so far.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    they decide to bring this shit out when the playoff are about to start? wtf man. Idk whatever. Watch the bears go into Overtime in the NFC CHAMP game and this rule helps us out.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    from Kiper:

    "Chicago Bears
    Top needs: C, RG, DT, CB
    Pick strategy: I'm not sold on the idea that it's a foregone conclusion the Bears will go after an offensive lineman in Round 1. That's because where they really need to look -- mainly on the interior given development they've gotten on the edges -- is a place you can find some value at a later point. You just don't see guards and centers drafted in the first round too often, unless you have a guy like Maurkice Pouncey or Mike Iupati last year that will immediately be starting and an upgrade. Keep an eye on corner, where Jenkins could be a good get. While the Bears have developed a competent core of wideouts seemingly on the cheap, if a big target that can overwhelm smaller DBs is here, such as Jon Baldwin of Pitt, it's something that could help diversify what Chicago can do in that passing game. And while Chicago has gotten the job done up front, if it wants continued effectiveness from an aging corps of linebackers, it will need to invest in a defensive tackle, perhaps right here."

    makes you think about things...and i think he's right on the money. if Tice stays (please God make it so), Bears can go into the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th and build the line from there (remember: Tice had Minny up in the high offensive ranks w/ Minny...part of that was line development). would REALLY like to see a WR here to install competition, but a DT or CB would be just fine (Tommie needs to fight for a spot on this team in training camp).

    Also, if a WR is available, who's the odd man out? i'd think it's be DA b/c:

    1) he's in Martz's doghouse
    2) can't grasp playbook
    3) Rashied is too valuable on special teams
    4) with a legit WR, it could be (WR), Knox, Bennett, Hester so Hest can focus more on special teams than the WR bit (and make special packages for him). also, he can thrive in this role just like Az-Hakim did in STL (he'd serve to give Ricky Prohel a blow from time to time).

    i love Dabba, but he's not right for this system. and if Martz stays (95% sure he will because he's getting old and doesn't want to deal w/ the stress of coaching), he's out of there. he'll fight for a spot at TC, but if the Bears draft a WR, can't possibly see Dabba sticking with the club.

    or (now stay with me on this): what if the Bears tried to make a move for Albert Haynesworth? i know what you're thinking: drama queen, crybaby, etc. but, his prowess in a 4-3 is unparalleled, he'd benefit from a STRONG locker room such as the Bears, and you can pair him with JP (let me repeat that: YOU CAN PAIR HIM WITH JULIUS FUCKIN' PEPPERS)!!!! might not be a risk Angelo would want to make, but it be low-risk, high-reward (that shit he pulled in Washington SEVERELY hurt his stock, meaning he'd have to take a severe cut in pay). that type of defense there would be fucking insane (and give Lach & Briggs a few more years----the "Ray Lewis Effect").

    food for thought gentleman (and few ladies)...

    *note: i'm SUPER stoked for the playoffs & think we can do major damage, but gotta think ahead. w/ the right moves, this could be a dynasty in the making...yes, seriously.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    and the Albert thing is assuming he'd be released...

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    ...from prison following his next (inevitable) criminal transgression.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    It will be DA who goes as he's a FA this year. Plus, he's good, and will be a pro-bowler somewhere else. Rashied Davis 32 I think. Don't we have to buy out Haynesworth's $100M contract? No way. Not for any man. I said last year we needed to push the boat out and get us some package to get Detroit's draft spot. That's where you spend. For the future, and buying only gold, not Fiat money. O-line first. You build a house on anything less than a solid foundation ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And no on the dynasty FQ. How do you figure that?

    It'll take years to fix the o-line and have a solid young crew together. By which time, the following players are all gone :

    Urlacher, Peppers, Briggs, Peanut, Garza, Kreutz, CH, Izzy. How does dynasty-like our team look then? And bear in mind doing the drafting ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And bear in mind who's doing the drafting ...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    We are going to be the most improved team in our Division next year. We are going to be the # 1 seed in the NFC.

    This team was not built by luck.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    No, but it is only the #2 seed by having a lot of luck with injuries. Even just a few injuries and we wouldn't be in the playoffs with our lack of depth. Will Peppers, Urlacher, Kreuz and Garza be better next year, or will they go the other way?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +2

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    McNeil has the more realistic take on Angelo's smug presser, the one where he sits back grinning like Garfield saying 'Hey, I just built Rome. Y'like her? Sweet, ain't she?"

    In particular :[What tickled me the most was the GM's assessment of tight end Brandon Manumaleuna. "He wears a lot of hats," Angelo said. I think he meant "wears a lot of pants."]

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0107-dan-mcneil--20110106,0,5910780.column

  • In reply to Dmband:

    If the dragster does not fit... you must acquit.

    http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2011/01/500x_ojschumacherbyleslielovett_01.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sure glad he got Al Caponed and got sent to the slammer for recovering his stolen property. Some guys just ain't to bright.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    I just watched the Sabol film on Elway's comebacks. He had a bigtime arm and excellent movement, but had the spidey sense that Cutler just doesn't have in sensing what's around him in the pocket. They're very similar QBs though it has to be said. John was also blessed with excellent protection, mostly, and always had at least one or two great receivers around him. Cutler deserves better, no doubt.

  • Elway was 27 when he threw 17 TD and 19 picks. Cutler's 23 TD and 16 picks at 27 give us hope for improvement as he and Elway have many similarities in their game (incredibly strong arm,deceptively mobile).

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