A Wonderful Season, A Bizarre Ending

If someone told you in August that Jay Cutler, Todd Collins and Caleb Hanie would each take snaps in the NFC Championship Game against the Green Bay Packers...what would you have said?  I don't know what my exact words would have been but they would have rhymed with "buck cough". 

We'll have weeks to discuss the severity of Jay Cutler's knee injury.  Weeks to analyze Mike Martz calling an end around to Earl Bennett on a game-deciding third down.  Weeks, nay months, to criticize Lovie and Mike for having Hanie behind Collins on the postseason depth chart.  None of it matters now.  The Bears are out of the 2010 season.  That's the truth.
I was proud today of the way the defense played.  Proud of how Caleb Hanie played.  Proud of this team.  Maybe I'm a few yards further from understanding Cutler...maybe not.  But for now...in this moment...I'll stick with proud.  
But if Jerry Angelo doens't add a few offensive linemen this offseason, there'll be hell to pay. 
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  • I just wanna say I'm proud of the Chicago Bears and what they accomplished this year. This is a good football team with plenty of upside and I'm excited for next year. Bear Down Jeff and the rest of the bloggers!!

  • I was constantly into the game, but being at work I missed Cutler going down with an injury. For a person who routinely got obliterated by 300+ lbs. cruise missles, this is freaking ludicrous...

    http://twitpic.com/3su0uy

    Whatever happened to having some actual class and taking one on the chin when you got beat?

    It fucking disgusted me.

  • In reply to IowaBear:

    Fuck anyone burning Cutler jerseys, they aren't Bears fans.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    What a disgrace.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    That is silly to say the least. No doubt copious amounts of alcohol had something to do with that.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    A Dream Season with a Nightmarish ending. We did a helluva lot better than 95% of bears fans, and 100% of non-bears fans thought we would do. We can hold our heads high. Fuck the nay-sayers. We've always been disrespected anyway. Fuck 'em all.

    Thanks for a great season on da blog, Jeff. You outdid yourself this year. Nice job, mang.

    Bear Down in 2011.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Let us plan for next season, by getting an offense line that can block for our backup quarterback. Yes, I said our backup quarterback. Chicago's best friend is the backup quarterback. When Grossman was on the field, we were pleading Lovie to get him off and put on Orton. Same thing happened at the beginning of the season and certain games towards the end. The Bears need a quarterback that can get protection, as well as one that can throw the ball consistently to the receivers.

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    But we said that last year. The needs for next season are *exactly* the same as they were last year :

    * O-line
    * Secondary
    * Big-ass WR

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If JA went after FA's and picks by pulling names out of a hat he would eventually get a couple of those. What is his f'ing problem?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Well, we didn't draft terribly. We upgraded the whole Defense by bringing in Pepp and Izzy (call those our 1st and 2nd round picks). The jury is still out on Major, but he was a solid 3rd rounder (and filled a need). Wooten wasn't a need, but he saw playing time. Moore was addressing a need and wasn't a bad choice. I can't get too upset about LeFeavour after watching Todd Collins, and Webb was great for a 7th rounder.

    The secondary is less of a liability than it was last year. Its still the biggest need on D (except possibly tackle), but its moving the right direction. The O-line is a disaster and I predict it will be our #1 need for another year no matter what happens in 2011.

    Reciever is a need, but not a big need and probably not going to be addressed in the draft. I'd rather spend a 4th rounder on fullback or a DT than another member of our still young and pretty decent reciever commity. Free agency is another discussion.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Pep and Izzy are close to retirement. So we need Defensive Ends pretty soon.

    Webb sucks at pass coverage, he's just too big and slow.

    Moore is good.

    Angelo picked LeFevour instead of Starks - he had Starks singled out for selection was going to draft him and changed his mind at the last minute according to a guy that was working for the Bears - I don't have the link, it's a few threads back.

    Major just displayed indecision from what I've seen of him. Might sort that out, Might not.

    Wooten finished Favre, worth picking just for that.

    The whole line needs replacing.

    How many years of drafting is all that?

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Didn't think we would make it this far and I don't know if we can do better next year. One would hope.

    We need to ask people how to draft because somehow the Chiefs had the best o-line in a year.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Good call, Artoo, but it was done through scheming with little or no personnel change, I was up on Chiefs blods checking it out. How to go from alst to first in a year. Scheming correctly. Their O-line personnel aren't actually all that good, apparently (the fans said) but they have the best line ... because they were schemed to. Interesting eh? Let's see how Tice goes ...

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    This season was a very good one indeed, and despite this loss, I can't be overly critical becasuse we overachieved with a true no-line, Martz & Lovie, and smurfs playing reciever. We were supposed to suck in the mightest this year, yet we were NFC North Champs and the #2 seed. We hung in there despite offensive woes and a down qb. Give Cutler a REAL O-line and BIG STRONG recievers next year and see what he can do. I still believe in Cutty, and I think he can take this team even farther next year as long as Angelo pulls his head out of his ass and drafts right. Jay has done better then any qb in our history. He's gotten so much better after last year. He's a tough SOB who took 52 freaking sacks. 52!!! People will always doubt him after today's performance. Fine, because I believe next year and all the years after that Jay will use it as vengence. EVERYBODY will use it as vengence. He WILL get better, and one day I gotta believe he'll prove all of his doubters wrong when he hosts the Lombardi Trophy whenever that time comes. BEAR THE FUCK DOWN!

  • In reply to BossBear90:

    Would you rather have the Bears buy a whole new O-line , or get stronger wide receivers? The Bears cannot certainly do both.

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    The O-line is the main priority, easily.

  • In reply to BossBear90:

    I agree. That is the one thing that I would like to see get changed. Cutler needs a chance to work his magic and cannot do it behind a O-line that wont give him a chance.

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    Agree. Draft O-Line in the first, see what WR falls to us later.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Now lets not get rid of our running back like what we did with Thomas Jones. We have a good running back now, so lets keep him.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    I hope Mark Schlereth and Trent Dilfer die in a two seater plane crash. At sea. Let em float around with hope for awhile until they succumb to some ruthless fucking shark. Fucking cunts.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    I bet you they deal Shabba. I frakking bet you ....

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    No question can be had on that argument. There is no debate. I don't like drafting WRs anyway -we haven't got the time to develop them, we've got maybe another year of a serious shot with this team before our vets are history. Serious WR talent is available in FA this year. But we already know Angelo's response to that and it starts "We like ...".

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    I think it pisses me off more than anything else about the game that Collins was put in over Hanie. I don't think anyone on the blog disagrees that was a boneheaded decision, and I can't imagine that anyone at all that watched the Carolina game would disagree either. Some ~occasional~ mistakes in coaching w/ regards to time management and playcalling can be excused, but how do you work with Todd Collins for a season and not realize he Suuuuuuuuuuucksss. Hell, I can't see him get a job in the F'ing UFL, he is... he has no business being a professional quarterback.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    if this was facebook I would "like" that right there. Hanie is under rated, but the only people that see him as being second in line behind Cutler are the fans.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    glad to get on and see something positive on a team that overachieved more than any team I've ever watched. Loved the play of the D today- just incredible. Who could ask for more from 54 and co.? Just great. My only beef is the Collins over Heine crap. We knew how bad Collins was. As for the Cutler stuff... he was hurt. The rest is just stupid.

  • In reply to animal:

    I wanted 54 to straight arm Rodgers and push him into the turf on that INT. He should have scored.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    I wondered that after the game. Why didn't you plough through the fucker, Brian ...? If that was 2005, he was gone .... I had envisioned a pick six for Brian today in my pre-game shower.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    Oh please...

    The damn offense should have used the momentum boost and scored themselves.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    http://twitter.com/#!/RaheemBrock

    he's riling up Bears fans and talking big shit. r.o.f.l.m.a.o. this shit just hit twilight zone ppl

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Well, I was watching the games at a bar all day and just made it back. Here are my thoughts, sorry if any of this is well-covered ground; I don't really have time to read all 700 comments on the game thread:

    Big props to the defense for keeping us in a game that looked to be heading to blowout territory. I don't know how many times I looked at the scoreboard and wondered to myself how the hell we were still in the game.

    Looked like the field hurt us more than them. Urlacher on the INT return, Hester on a punt, and a couple of other guys ended up tackling themselves.

    Although his final numbers weren't that gaudy, there's no denying that Starks killed us in the first half.

    I didn't like the aforementioned end-around call, but the only coaching decision that I really despised was having Collins as #2 QB. Didn't we see enough of this bum during the year to know that he can't play?

    Big props to Hanie as well. Sure, both his INTs we're gut-punches, but it can't be easy to come on as the third QB, with almost no first team practice snaps - let alone game experience - and give your team a fighting chance. Which is exactly what he did. The dude showed no fear, and can definitely ball a little bit.

    Most of all, thanks to Jeff and all the commenters here for providing a great environment to talk football. I've been reading for the last three seasons, but this was my first commenting. There are relatively few football - much less Bears - fans where I live, and it's great to have this outlet.

    See you around, and BEAR DOWN.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Oh, yeah, I forgot: about Cutty. I thought he missed Hester a couple of times on throws he probably should have made, but on most of his completions in was amazing that he even got the throw off. Can't be easy to hit a receiver when you've got a couple of 300-pound men draped over you on every throw.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    I never heard -- how many rushing yards did Cutty get? Seems like quite a few.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=692391-bears-doctors-held-jay-cutler-out-of-playoff-game

    now everybody can kindly shut the fuck up.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Not often you'll see me type the following four words: David Haugh nails it:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0124-bears-haugh-chicago--20110123,0,5643898.column

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    My favorite paragraph:

    "Why was Collins ahead of "emergency quarterback" Caleb Hanie on the depth chart anyway? Collins shouldn't have been on the roster, let alone in a game to decide the Super Bowl. He only took six snaps but all were wasted as Hanie watched. Sure, Hanie threw an interception B.J. Raji returned for the decisive score, but he gave the Bears offense life. Collins gave it cyanide."

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    This is all Brett Favre's fault. Now everyone expects a player to play until he's half dead.

  • In reply to RodgerRodger:

    LMAO in AK.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    My bears..i rode with from game one and never imagined that they would get us this close to the big game with the offensives woes we've had. My only wish is that we get a o line in the offseason so we can see what cutty really made up. Give lovie and martz one more year and its done.

  • In reply to logikal77:

    You can't build a house in a day. Takes years to build a line, and Angelo has failed us. I believe in the future of Louis and Asiata, they have a role to play. But the Starters? We need to replace all of them.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Kreutz got blown the f up on a couple of plays, he has maybe one or two years left at best.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Done already even ...? Garza ditto.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    centers hit a wall around 32. There are a few notable exceptions. I love Kreutz, but we should have been training his replacement for the last 2 years. He's not bad, he just got old.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Not a post in awhile. So happy to be three weeks after the season and still be able to see a game. a game that could have been won, but the lackluster or flat effort in the first quarter was neer really fully recovered from. Now all the media is putting on their "attack Jay Cutler" armor and getting ready to make mass hype all week and into the OTA's and training camp (unless there is a lock-out, probably). Here we are, after starting 42 quarterbacks since 1992 (a little guess there I think) and this guy is going to jet on us, guess where we will be when that happens. Jay might be headed to Washington folks and all those beloved Bear fans will only have themselves to thank for driving him away. We will go another 18 years with another over 40 some qb's. i will go mad, absolutely mad. All we need to do is get an O line, a true number 1 WR, still think we coould use depth in the secondary. every team needs something, we now have a year of the MMO under our belt and that will mean a much smoother transition when the protection provides for this offense to blow wide open. Okay i am blithering.

    As I have always said, for those of you who remember me. i want our bears to be a well oiled machine, they sparked several times this season. today that was not the case, the only machine on the field was the f'ing packers, problem is they only turned on their machine for the first quarter, but that was all they really needed. the second TD was a gimme after the awesome 22 yard punt, the 3rd touchdown was a gimme from the Hanie, why didnt they just play short field that was working all day long? who can say. why can't Hanie run it a time or two rather than throw it, there was 45 tics people, they were on the 30. Like I said though that game was over when hanie threw the pick six, it was a rusty, gang green, tetnus filled nail in the coffin.

    Should have taken week seventeen more serious, i'm thinking and knocked their asses out of the playoffs. this hurts a lot worse since it was them knocking us out. do you realize of those puckers win teh SB, they will likely continue to be the best team in this division, this is not good, not at all.

    All right, great season, glad to get there, glad not to be blown out, didnt feel like we were dominated, they were still in the game till the end. It was respectible.

    I could use a season like that a lot more often, the last 3 years really sucked.

    Bear down, my bruddas and sistasof the blog.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    There you have it Shon - a lot of people were saying week seventeen meant nothing! I was livid. Rest our starters? If we don't knock these fkrs out now, they'll knock us out of the playoffs.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    >>> "didnt feel like we were dominated, they were still in the game till the end. It was respectible."

    Yep, shonbear, you're absolutely right. That game belonged to *anyone* until about the last 3 minutes. Considering how that VERY STRANGE game went, that's a huge tribute to the Bears, and especially the defense. I also think 3rd-string Hanie looked pretty good out there, considering what he was asked to do.

    See you next year, and best of luck in this year's draft. Hope you get the special ones you need to complete the magic.

  • In reply to logikal77:

    The Emperor Has No Clothes

    Homers and Angelo/Cutler apologists can stop reading now. Look away. Go hang out with the 4th Phase club or something

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Bravo Irish, bravo. Not much to add other than the Bears will finish behind Detroit and Green Bay if they don't find us a line and secondary that can compete. We don't have a receiver that makes our opponents lose sleep at night and until we do the Bears will continue to falter in the must win games. It's becoming clear to me that Lovie must go head to head with JA even if it cost him his job.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    sooo many emotions...I'm spent. From pre-season till now, Going through mock-drafts, trade-wires, rumor-mills, and god forbid, watching ESPN and listening to other sports radio talk shows like mike and mike in the morning, or reading chicago trib, sun times, bearsmix...just spent.

    If it weren't for losing to the Packers, I would be proud, but for now, I'm more disappointed than proud.

    Like Jeff said, we'll have till next September (DAMN) to question dubious play-calls, "fake" injuries, Hanie, HORRENDOUS penalties, and all that.

    Bear Down! What shapes a man is not how he lives when everything goes well, but rather how he reacts in times of turmoil or defeat.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Go Bears!!!!

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    It was great being at the game today, but man did that loss hurt. That was by far the worst loss in my lifetime for any pro sporting event.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    NFC Championship - Packer v Bears - The Irish Corner

    Soundbite version ? "What a load of old bollocks that was then."

    But let's not be all negative, eh ?

    * Either the Steelers win their seventh superbowl, or the Packers win another ... oh ... wait ...

    * Two of our linebackers are really very good, aren't they?

    * Caleb Hanie was finally allowed throw a few passes when the penny finally dropped with our coaches, that Todd Collins, is in fact ... shite. Troy Aikman seemed to think it was "genius" to put Hanie in, when in fact it was just plain stupid to put Collins in at all.

    * Oh Major. Pringles. Sour cream all right. I've seen it all now. I knew there was no point in drafting the seventh best safety, we just keep re-drafting the position. If you're going to draft for a position that needs a starter, fucking draft with purpose like you mean it. Angelo's idea of drafting an Urlacher was Hunter fucking Hillenmeyer. But Major ... oh God ... "I'll drop back into coverage .. no wait, I'll play the run ... no I won't ... I'll ... aw shit I'm nowhere." LOAFER! How many crappy safeties does that make?

    * Martz is not a good OC for us. His in-game adaptation is terrible. He ran on every single first down until we had to play catch up. WTF? We should have been in the hurry up offense from about the second quarter on ... it's like he never left his script. First and ten. Forte. BANG! One yard. Second down, same again. Third down and ten, guess what Green Bay!! Blitz. Bang. Punt.

    * Tim Jennings - turn your head and look for the ball, son. It's allowed.

    * GB blitzed and closed down our passing game in the first half. Yet we rushed four and let Rodgers stand in there. Capers made the same mistake we did in the second half and our 3rd String QB marched down the field.

    * 1 TD in 29 possessions against the Packers before Caleb Hanie ? Really? Eh ... Mr. Martz to reception please ... bag and baggage.

    * Anyone have a clue why Lovie called that time out on 3rd and 4 ? It looked like we had basically gotten the first down on the run up the middle, and then a T.O. was called, then a weird end-around to Bennett that took all day to develop ... WTF?

    * I thought Hanie looked good and had a great game considering he had thrown three passes in the NFL or something of that order. He looked better than Cutler anyway.

    * The 53 yarder I can understand Lovie/Gould passing on .. but 49? We can get Maynard to kick the PATs, why are we paying Gould ?

    * We are always out-coached.

    * The crowd sucked. Silence from the national anthem onwards, bar a bit of booing when we punted. If I was an owner I'd have a lottery for the blue-collar workers, so real fans could come to the games, not the prawn sandwich brigade. Only Freemasons and the Bilderberg Group can afford to go to football games. This is my longstanding lament that sports have been taken away from the people they are meant for.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Major Wright is not good in coverage no, but he can sure as hell tackle. Maybe Harris can teach him a thing or two?

    why am i still up it is 3:30

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Only the people questioning his toughness. It doesn't negate any of the valid stuff about him being an inaccurate, stubborn, risk-taker.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Take a 300 lb bowling ball to the knee and see how well any quarterback throws a ten yard out.
    Shit, Rodgers couldn't hit the broadside of a barn after Peppers laid him out. It just took to long to get that hit on him.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    +1
    The time-out when the RB was already through for the first (basically) followed by the Bennett end-around clusterfuck that took half an hour to set up against a defense like that. Crack-induced.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    On that we can all agree ...

    Todd Collins, first Bear for the axe .... seeing as it's the off-season for us now ... the rest ?

    Given his ginormous salary - Frank the Omelette.

    Manu-fatboy.

    If we trade Chris Williams I won't cry. Can we clear all the Safeties bar Manning off the roster to make space for people who contribute please?

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Speaking as a Pack fan, I was scared to death when Hanie started passing ...... the kid was doing better than either of his two predecessors! Stupid decision to put Collins in. I truly think Bears could have won if Hanie had had more time. (Was biting my fingernails!)

  • In reply to PackinAK:

    Well he did throw 2 picks, but yes, the kid can play and I want him backing up Jay for as long as we can keep him.

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    They need one big body receiver, they have the speed guys in place.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    They have one. His name is Olsen.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    No, we need a big bodied receiver too. And i like Davis as a TE better, he's got another two inches on Olsen. The way Cutler overthrows his receivers we need a *lot* of big receivers. We should be drafting basketball players.

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    hmmmmmm, maybe new coach for OL or WR's?? Training can mean everything.

    just a thought - I'm not a Bears fan and don't claim to know

  • In reply to PackinAK:

    I don't have any opinion about our recievers coach (nor know his name), but I don't think he's particularly good or bad. Tice has done a great job with the line and should definitely be asked back.

    There's something to be said for continuity though. I don't think we drop any position coaches unless a real find hits the market.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Like Daryl Drake has been such a key member of our staff? I smell a Hiestand. How about Isaac Bruce? He knows a thing or two about catching passes. What're Daryl Drake's qualifications?

  • In reply to PackinAK:

    Daryl Drake must suck. He must. Our receivers have looked like headless chickens at times, and not just in stature. If you're drafting them small, draft Steve Smith not Herve Villichaise or Verne Troyer.

  • In reply to ItsNotColdOut:

    Can anyone explain to me why Hanie was able to operate from the Shotgun, yet we almost never see Cutler in that formation? It was suggested before that Kreutz might have problems with the snaps - but they looked all right to me today? Wouldn't that give Cutler more time and vision to spot an open receiver? And why do the effective screen passes only get called when we're down to our 3rd string QB. How often do screen passes get closed down on us? Hardly ever. We look very effective when in hurry-up offense, most teams do. Why doesn't Martz know all this - what else has he got to be doing with his time Work out what's effective, then do it. No I'm MM, I'm going to run it on 1st and 2nd downs and be damned with what anyone thinks. I'll keep doing it because it's not working and then expect a different outcome ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Kreutz was snapping pretty high to Hanie iirc, I never gave much thought to it but it goes along with the whole theory that he isn't comfortable with the shotgun. Idk somebody smarter than me will probably weigh in, probably gonna rewatch the game tomorrow or tuesday too...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Okay, seriously IS, YOU'RE going to criticize Martz for running to much? You must love your 20-20 Hindsight.

    As far as the snaps to Hanie, they DIDN'T look good at all, he almost fumbled twice. I personally don't blame Kruetz very much though, 10-11 years of snapping to a QB who is incompetent from the Shotgun.

    I do agree with you that Hanie looked good from the shotgun though.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    THis isn't really true. Remember that Grossman was always more comfortable in a shotgun (which he had played in college) but when he got the NFL he had to snap under center because our probowl center doesn't know how to shotgun snap.

  • In reply to jj320:

    ...right, because of 7-9 years of snapping to a QB who is incompetent from the Shotgun.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    I call BS.... how ridiculous is it to limit an ENTIRE offense because the center cant make a shotgun snap... Makes no sense.... If a player cant fit into the offense as its meant to be run. FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN!

  • In reply to underway:

    I thought the snaps were okay, I've seen a lot worse - and yeah, if he's old and fucked and can't snap, let's go with Edwin or draft a center out of the 20 players we need to. The problem with all of these needs is our starters need to be drafted high for the O-line, Urlacher's replacement and the safety position. because of his consistent failure, Angelo will have to compromise, as he did with Major Wright. That doesn't work. You look at your needs for say two positions, and then you draft them first and second round. Sort out the next two positions in the next draft, not in the lower rounds. He's an idiot.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Ochocinco is an okay dude

    "@JayCutler6 Jay if you want to go all out Call Of Duty style war on some people let me know, I'm cocked (pause) and loaded #1LUV"

    "Turned on Espn and reading the tweets current/former players have sent out based on Cutlers injury.what if he's really hurt bad :( I'm sad"

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Ocho wants to come to Chicago?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Yup. Take him AND T.O. I know if we had a couple of real receivers we'd be int he Superbowl, and winning it.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Why isn't anybody questioning Chicago Bears offensive coordinator " Mike Martz" decision making regarding when to kick field goals and when to pull quarterback's ? Martz denied the Bears 6 points (Golden Gould) in field goals as well as putting the entire team in total jeopardy by putting the 3rd string quarterback(Hanie) in the game CARELESSLY with approximately 30 seconds left in the 3rd quarter making Hanie the ONLY eligible quarterback left on the roster for the remainder of the game . Martz has been a head coach , and KNOWS that if he waited one more play, the 3rd quarter expires, and now he would have 3 quarterbacks left. What are his Non Championship incentives? I'd really like to see Martz man up and answer these questions.
    I'd like to know who influenced Bears Coach Smith not to take a challenge on Packers 2nd touchdown when the runners knee looked to be down, on replay ,before passing into the end zone . With the ball on the goal line, anything could have happened penalties, fumbles , interception,forced to kick field goal instead. What was Coach Smith's motivation not to challenge the touch down? or not to challenge offensive coordinator Martz decision ,TWICE, to not attempt a 47 yard field goal ? and a 52 yard field goal ? when the Bears have the Best kicker (GOOD AS GOLD) right here alone is a difference of a possible 13 point swing for the Bears and a dead even game. Bears would have been on the board in the first half and a totally different game situation. The interceptions would not have occurred because they were both thrown in desperation when Matt Forte and the Bears running game were working. TERRIBLE DECISION MAKING by MARTZ and SMITH LOST THIS GAME! Number 1 to blame MARTz Number 2 to blame Coach Smith Everyone that seriously watched or studied this game knew that the Bears Defense were LIGHTS OUT the second half. Hanie moved the ball well on the ground and given the opportunity to work the clock in what should have been a closer score and not being squeezed into playing desperately forcing interceptions, 4th down, deep in Chicago zone with time running down, the Bear's could have won this game with competent coaching decisions . I say we can Blame the coaches not the team. Do U agree?

  • In reply to GrizzlyBear23:

    We did. Yesterday.

    They were 49 and 53 yards by the way. I wrote the yardage down on my list of annoyances. Yep, I made a list and wrote them all down there and then, which is why I know Cutler was terrible. And his knee wasn't relevant at any point. He never looked limited.

    Although asking Gould to kick 53 yards into the wind would be pointless, and returnable. If the wind was blowing in that direction, I don't know.

    I blame Cutler. I blame Martz - when you're two scores behind Aaron Rodgers, and your running game is patchy at best, you need to throw the odd pass on first down. Lovie should have challenged the Knox score.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Chicago offensive coordinator Mike Martz Traitor or just stupid ?

    Either way is unacceptable with this Bear FAN
    to carelessly botch or throw the rivalry match up of the century between the Bears and Packers will be unforgivable my most true Bears fans when they finally realize that this may be similar to the early BLACK SOX SCANDAL. this makes me sick :-!

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Why did't Bear's offensive coordinator Martz ever give Hanie the time of day or any season play time at all? Why would Martz choose
    Collins as a backup and not even consider Hanie at any time during the season ? Collins had his opportunities and always came up lamb . What does this really look like here ? I'f i thought that the Bears truly got outplayed Sunday, I would be the first to admit it - NOT SO ! With the tainted coaching decisions that i witnessed
    Offensive Coordinator Martz make Sunday as well as watching Coach Smith just stand there and let Martz call the shots I knew they were gonna find a way to put the nails in the coffin. For all you educated skeptics out there that think i'm just talking trash ,
    Watch the game again and pay attention to the decision making and timing of those decisions. DEMAND THAT MARTZ and SMITH ANSWER MY QUESTIONS I see no possible excuse or justification for what they pulled Sunday afternoon.

  • In reply to GrizzlyBear23:

    They and Angelo, are Packer plants. That's all I can come up with, other than that they might just be really really fkn stupid.

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Martz, like Cutler, is his own toughest critic after a game like this. His response to media requests post-game "I'm sorry." He gets it - the question is if he has what it takes to adjust going into the next season. And I do want Martz back - he's grown a lot this year and so has the offense. With a better line, a lot of his best stuff will click better, and we really need continuity to keep this club together.

    I think the refs made some bad calls in the game (intentional grounding for one), but I don't think they cost us the game. We lost the game because our D gave up 14 points way too fast, and our offense responded with a goose egg in the first half.

    Lovie didn't challenge because, I believe, he lost the earlier challenge on the turnover. So win or lose this was the only challenge he had left. Do you use your only other challenge to put yourself defending first and goal at the 1? You could argue either way, but the tape wasn't clear so I can't criticize the decision.

    I am mad about Hanie going in with 30 seconds left in the third quarter. I'm mad that he was the 3rd stinger. I'm mad that Matt Forte would have been taking direct snaps if he got hurt. But that's all. We're a good team... we can get back to the playoffs with a good off-season.

    Please please please, let's see a good draft.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Bears lost because of Martz careless decisions Robby Gould was never given a chance to kick a field goal ! the opportunities were twice in the first half and Martz elected
    to settle for weak punts both times. the wind was only gusting at 8 mph . Robbie can't kick field goals if Martz doesn't give him a chance to as Lovey looks on and smiles and watches. SMITH and MARTZ gave the game to the Packers 6 points in field goals 7 point challenge another 7 point Hanie interception that never would have happened if desperation didn't set in because of the detrimental coaching decisions Martz made that Smith just stood by and watched. Made me wanna throw up .

  • In reply to GrizzlyBear23:

    I think Lovie is on medication I really do. He stands on that sideline like he's prozac-ed up to the tits.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Sorry doesn't cut it. No pun intended. Results do.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And here's my thing with Lovie and his challenges...

    ARE YOU SAVING THEM UP FOR NEXT FUCKING CHRISTMAS LOVIE !!?

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    One other thing...

    I am convinved that nobody. Not Angelo, not Smith, not Martz. Nobody in our organization is a good evaluator of quarterback talent. They messed up with Grossman. They messed up with Orton. They messed up with Collins. And now they have messed up with Hanie.

    I've had similar feelings about wide reciever after Bennett missed his first year on the field and Shaba fading away into the abyss after a great end of last season. But I don't think that is strictly true. On WR, the problem is that they only like one kind of player - fast and good in the slot. If we get some help evaluating offensive talent in general - we'll improve.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    They only thing they messed up re Grossman is drafting the prick in the first place. And anyone who acquires a Todd Collins - or suggests it - wants shooting.

    Only one or two guys can play in the slot, somebody has to play the outside .. .so why not Shabba. Seriously, I don't get how the whole board isn't screaming out for him. They need to watch his highlights again. He's our most exciting receiver and it's not even close.

  • In reply to jj320:

    Was it me or were the reffs really against us.. I know we lost but it seemed every hold wasnt there, every pass interference was on us and some of the calls were poor. Look at the replay, Knox had a touchdown but they didn't give it to him. What would have happened if we didn't score?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    They sure are. Been that way all year when we play the Pack

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Some of the calls were BS but we just got outplayed. The defense getting shredded the first couple of series I just felt was the dagger. I'm not blaming the defense as they stepped up in the second half but our defense was our only hope in this game. Our offensive line is awful. I can't tell you how many times I just saw them get bullied back off the ball. I'm not going to blame the refs for this game as I'm surprised it was as close as it was. The Bears started the game soft and they payed for it in the end.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    A few people have touched on it but Special Teams was a giant letdown. Maynard had some truly awful punts, including the net 24 yarder, and the Green Bay coverage unit kicked our ass all game long.

    Bashing Cutler for this loss is insane.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Why insane? He is the talisman, and he was bloody useless. It starts and ends with the leader, and I don't see a leader.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    And who cares how many Division titles we have?
    If you're not winning division titles, you're praying to a higher power that you sneak into a wildcard spot. And if you're not in the playoffs, how are you supposed to compete for a Lombardi?
    Twisted logic, guys, give me a break. The division titles matter. It's not just a girl scout badge.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    +1

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Let's throw it open to a blog vote then. Lombardis or Division titles boys ? What do you want, what matters in football?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Damn hard to get one without the other, Irish.
    Don't be obtuse.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Why isn't anybody questioning Chicago Bears offensive coordinator " Mike Martz" decision making
    with regarding when to kick field goals and when to pull quarterback's ? Martz denied the Bears 6 points (Golden Gould) in field goals as well as putting the entire team in total jeopardy by putting the 3rd string quarterback(Hanie) in the game carelessly with approximately 30 seconds left in the 3rd quarter making him the ONLY eligible quarterback left on the roster for the remainder of the game . Martz has been a head coach , and KNOWS that if he waited one more play, the 3rd quarter expires, and now he would have 3 quarterbacks left. What are his Non Championship incentives? I'd really like to see Martz man up and answer these questions.
    I'd like to know who influenced Bears Coach Smith not to take a challenge ? on Packers 2nd touchdown when the runners knee looked to be down, on replay ,before passing into the end zone . With the ball on the goal line, anything could have happened penalties, fumbles , interception,forced to kick field goal instead. What was Coach Smith's motivation not to challenge the touch down? or not to challenge offensive coordinator Martz decision ,TWICE, to not attempt a 47 yard field goal ? and a 52 yard field goal ? when the Bears have the Best kicker (GOOD AS GOLD) right here alone is a difference of a possible 13 point swing for the Bears and a dead even game. Bears would have been on the board in the first half and a totally different game situation. The interceptions would not have occurred because they were both thrown in desperation when Matt Forte and the Bears running game were working. TERRIBLE DECISION MAKING by MARTZ and SMITH LOST THIS GAME! Number 1 to blame MARTz Number 2 to blame Coach Smith Everyone that seriously watched or studied this game knew that the Bears Defense were LIGHTS OUT the second half. Hanie moved the ball well on the ground and given the opportunity to work the clock in what should have been a closer score and not being squeezed into playing desperately forcing interceptions, 4th down, deep in Chicago zone with time running down, the Bear's could have won this game with competent coaching decisions . I say we can Blame the coaches not the team. rrrrrr i'm mad now
    Bears lost because of Martz careless decisions . Robby Gould was never given a chance to kick a field goal ! the opportunities were twice in the first half and Martz elected to settle for weak punts both times. The wind was only gusting at 8 mph . Robbie can't kick field goals if Martz doesn't give him a chance to as Lovey looks on and smiles and watches. SMITH and MARTZ gave the game to the Packers 6 points in field goals 7 point challenge another 7 point Hanie interception that never would have happened if desperation didn't set in because of the detrimental coaching decisions Martz made that Smith just stood by and watched. Made me wanna throw up

    Chicago offensive coordinator Mike Martz . Is he a Traitor or just stupid ?
    Was there intentional point shaving in the first half denying 2 field goal attempts creating a 6 point deficit? or were the 2 early first half opportunities to score carelessly disregarded by either neglect
    or stupidity?
    Either way is unacceptable with this Bear FAN to carelessly botch or throw the rivalry match up of the century between the Bears and Packers is unforgivable by most true Bears fans when they finally realize that this may be similar to the early BLACK SOX SCANDAL. this makes me sick ! INVESTIGATE "WE WANT ANSWERS" !

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The obsession with PS o-linemen is pretty funny too.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    That's another thing ! Lovie not challenging the Knox score! The Taylor liedown I could understand, they had clear replay footage to check out ... but Know looked like he was in - forgot about that ...

  • In reply to jj320:

    I cannot BELIEVE how Cutler is being crucified on ESPN this morning.

    I don't know what happened yesterday - nobody does but Jay himself. Was he hurt? Did he give up? Did he have a breakdown?

    All I do know is this: I cannot imagine the amount of pressure he felt yesterday. Before the game, I kept saying 'why even suit up?' All the press, all the pundits, everyone said how great Rodgers is, how the Bears have no chance, bla bla bla. His confidence must have been shot.

    If indeed he did have a breakdown, I wish someone would have had the decency to make him go to the locker room so he could do it in private.

    Cutler has skills and a 'different' demeanor. He has had to fight an uphill battle since he arrived in Chicago. Everybody loved him last week. Can't see why we can't support him this week.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Never forget: The Bears were a TD and FG away from the Super Bowl - - - Jay Cutler was a big part of that.

    I just can't believe what I am hearing this morning.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Agreed but everything lined up for this season to be special (from injuries-lack of) to Calvin Johnson's dropped pass. It just hurts. They had a chance to make it to the Super Bowl and as Minnesota showed last year, just because you make it to the NFC championship one year doesn't mean you'll even be competitive the next.
    If this line situation isn't addressed I think I might hurt somebody. I think the Bears are going to be limited on Free Agents this year to address items as well. I believe next season under the prospective new CBA (if there is one)the final 4 or 8 teams can only have one free agent. I could be wrong on that though.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Q. What is the Final Eight Plan?
    A. During the Final League Year, the eight clubs that make the Divisional Playoffs in the previous season have additional restrictions that limit their ability to sign unrestricted free agents from other clubs. In general, the four clubs participating in the championship games are limited in the number of free agents that they may sign; the limit is determined by the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs. They cannot sign any UFAs unless one of theirs is signed by another team.

    For the four clubs that lost in the Divisional Playoffs, in addition to having the ability to sign free agents based on the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs, they may also sign players based on specific financial parameters. Those four only will be permitted to sign one unrestricted free agent for $5.5 million (estimated) or more in year one of the contract, plus the number of their UFAs who sign with another team. They also can sign any unrestricted free agents for less than $3.7 (estimated) million in year one of the contract with limitations on the per year increases.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    If that's true about the restrictions then I wish they had ruled CJ's catch a catch and that Favre had played, and that we hadn't made the playoffs. Beaten by the Packers in SF for the Halas. Good God. That's there forever now.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    It does hurt, JAB. I am dying today.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    He certainly was a very big part of us not winning that game. Indeed. Had he not overthrown 50% of those passes we'd possibly be going to the Superbowl, and finally get our defense onto solid footing and get our pass rush going.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    This is football my dear, we don't do breakdowns. Sad but true. If you have a breakdown in football - you never, ever tell anyone about that. He'd never live it down. He'd have to leave the country. It would be worse than coming out.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Hindsight? I was internally screaming on every 1st down snap! it was insane. Running on EVERY SINGLE first down is tantamount to football suicide. More often than not, he ran on 2nd down too. It ends up third and long and GB do that really well. Martz was the main culprit yesterday. Apart from the final pick we were bang in there ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It's no surprise that the game came down to a defensive score and field position. The Packers won the field position battle in the first half and the Bears were unable to recover fast enough from that to get back in the game. Green Bay allowed us to make it close by changing their scheme. Still say the time out from the bench cost us a first down at the end their. Oh well, you win some, you lose some. Martz should have used the same plays in the first quarter that we used on the Seahawks. We were way to predictable on offense in the first half. Martz deserves the brunt of criticism for this game and I hate that we were never really in it when Cutty was in the game.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I am really bummed this morning, but we sure had a great season!

    Todd Collins has to go. Wow, he sucks.

    Thanks Jeff and all the DBBers for giving me a forum to be a real Bears fan throughout the season. What a blast to say what you really think, surrounded by others with equally strong opinions.

    I love the Bears and know we were 'this close' to the big prize. Many excellent pieces are in place. I just hope we have football next year to discuss.

    Thanks everybody.

  • In reply to BossBear90:

    +1000

  • In reply to pongjinn:

    Thanks for the great year gents!!

  • In reply to IowaBear:

    This is my first time commenting on this blog even though I'm a long time reader. All I have to say is get well soon Jay...we're a better team with you under center. And any fan burning jerseys right now isn't a real Bears fan. We made it to the NFC Championship... 28 teams don't make it that far.

  • In reply to BearsFan4Life:

    Is that you, Kristin?

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