Evaluating the 2010 Chicago Bears was a difficult proposition. There seemed to be a success ultimatum as we believed we were looking at the end of tenures for both Lovie Smith and GM Jerry Angelo. Make the playoffs or else. Win a playoff game or else. The season brought two new coordinators and one of the game's elite edge rushers in what was believed to be a last-ditch effort to save the jobs of the current Halas Hall establishment.
Then something changed. They stopped looking like a team at the end of the rope and started playing like a team at the start of successful run. Young defensive linemen making big plays. Young receivers making plays on the outside. New corners establishing themselves opposite Charles Tillman. The offensive linemen got better, a bit, as the year went on. The old dogs were still there - Urlacher, Briggs, Peanut, Chris Harris, Jay, Forte, Skunk - but this was clearly not an aged group trying to win before the window closed.
I don't want to spend all offseason analyzing what transpired over the 2010 season. So today I end the evaluation period. Starting next week and after the Super Bowl, it's all-systems-go on the 2011 campaign. A year I truly believe can be and should be special.
On the B-side we'll look at every area of the Chicago Bears roster.
Quarterbacks
Forget the Jay Cutler "controversy". It'll be nothing more than Steve Rosenbloom's catch phrase whenever Jay struggles in the future. Jay's development in 2010 was terrific and should continue next year. The Bears also established in the NFC title game that they have a more than serviceable backup in Caleb Hanie.
Running Backs, Tight Ends
These are two positions where the Bears should literally spend none of their attention for the next nine months.
Wide Receivers
Johnny Knox and Devin Hester are terrific speed options on the outside and Earl Bennett has proven to be a reliable slot/possession man and a favorite target of Jay Cutler. But the Bears can not enter another season without a proven threat at the position. They need a player that can catch a slant route and take it to the house. They need a player who can beat a corner for a jump ball in the end zone (the Packers have three). They need a verifiable #1.
Offensive Line
Three parts. (1) Decide whether Olin Kreutz and Roberto Garza have more left in the tank. (2) Evaluate the potential and find true positions for Chris Williams and J'Marcus Webb. (3) Cut Frank Omiyale. Seriously, I don't have the patience. Would anyone have any issue with the Bears taking seven offensive linemen in this year's draft and hoping to strike gold with one or two?
Defensive Line
Not sure how to complain about these guys.
Linebackers
Urlacher and Briggs are two of the best in the league but the Bears need to start developing young talent at this position for two reasons: (1) Urlacher/Briggs won't be able to stay this healthy for an entire season very often and (2) Urlacher and Briggs aren't going to be here forever. Re-signing Pisa Tinoisamoa is not a must and I expect the Bears to look at this position relatively early in the draft.
Secondary
Assuming Chris Harris and Danieal Manning return, developing Major Wright becomes to the top priorityat safety. Peanut had an excellent season and Tim Jennings was perhaps the defense's biggest surprise. DJ Moore showed excellent ballhawk at the nickel corner spot. Depth at corner is a need for every team, every offseason, and the Bears won't be the only fanbase clamoring for their club to sign Namdi Asomugha.
Special Teams
The Bears need to re-sign Rashied Davis, Corey Graham to avoid the mistake they made several years ago when they let Brendon Ayanbadejo go. They can't afford to let Brad Maynard walk but they must bring competition to camp this summer.
agreed, but you can complain about Tommie Harris. JP's coming was suppose to make Tommie "rejuvenated," but he had 1 good game against the Seahawks this season (maybe he had a couple of more....which someone would like to point out).
if they cut him, would not be mad at all; dude is expendable at this point. as far as CB, either the draft, FA, but not both. Nnamdi would be GREAT, but the money's gonna be tough (especially w/ Pep's contract & Matty getting his justly-do extension). but, wouldn't be mad w/ him or that one dude from Texas (Aaron something).
now...as far as OL, i trust in whatever Tice does. if he takes 2 in the 2nd & 4th (while we draft Casey Matthews.....shit i'll take it). if he does it 3rd & 4th, 3rd & 5th, then cool. b/c this line (BY FAR THE WORST LINE IN FOOTBALL) played in the NFC Championship (w/ 2 over the hill guys, a rook, and 2 busts). that's all credit to Tice as far as i'm concerned.
o and here's a guy we can get for a steal in the 2nd-3rd (shameless alma mater plug):
Name: DeMarcus Love
College: Arkansas Number: 65
Height: 6-5 Weight: 318
Position: OT Pos2: OG
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2011
40 Time: 5.18 40 Low: 5.09 40 High: 5.30
Projected Round: 2
Rated number 6 out of 169 OT's
seen him play all year (he was LT for Mallett). Mallett (love the kid, but the truth is the truth) is a STATUE in the pocket; he didn't get sacked that much (and if he did, it wasn't b/c of D-Love). if i were Tice, I'd be looking at this kid really hard.
also....apparently Larry Fitz is "available for the right price." yea or nay?
Yah I have a friend from the Philly area that told me all the talk there is about trading Kolb and their 1st for Fitz and asking for a 2nd for Maclin so that they really only lose 1/2 a position in the draft. I am sure tons of teams will try for something to that affect but there aren't many teams with a startable QB to offer.
I hope the Eagles make that deal - it would be idiotic given the OL and defensive backfield issues they have.
If they think Vick is going to last 16 games next season, wow.
Well he's probably going in rds 1-3, and I don't think we should use any of our early picks on the d. Plus, he looks just like his brother, and fuck him in his carny face!
Agreed that the FIRST priority must be Offensive Line. I can't wait to see Angelo's rationalizations for not addressing it.
I'm not sold on the interior of our D-Line--Peppers and Idonije where consistent, for the most part, but Harris still needs to go. The Defense sucks without a good pass rush and we need to ensure that we hit 2011 hard in that area.
O-line is a must but I would rather see at least one brought in via free agency. I'd like to see a CB drafted first. Our defensive back depth is marginal at best, and Peanut's best days I fear are behind him. I say sign Olin to a 1-2 year deal and draft a center no earlier that the 4th to be someone that learns behind him. Let Tommie Harris go and spend that money somewhere else. A rookie wide-receiver will have little value to us next year. I have no problems drafting one but please don't make it early unless it's someone that just dropped down the draft order for no reason and should have been top 10. The Bears need a proven reciever not a developmental project.
You know, a lot of us bitched and moaned about the areas that weren't addressed last off season but we ended up a c--t hair away from going to the Super Bowl. I believe Jerry will make the necessary moves this off season to kick it up a notch.
Trac, I have to say this... you've become more fickle than a teenage prom queen. Become more contradictory than a 'jew for jesus'.
You were with us saying that if jerry didn't fix the oline last year that he had to go. He didn't, and oline was STILL our most glaring weakness... if not THE weakness. They all had win or get fired preassure last year and he still did nothing. What makes you think he'll fix it this year? Just that it's become so obvious and glaring that if he doesn't his idiocy will definitley be exposed for all to see
I don't think anybody anticipated, especially after the last four games of 2009, that CW was going to be a bust at LT. That and the injury problems cascaded across the whole line. Angelo may not have predicted the future but drafting CW, picking up Shaffer and Omiyale...he hasn't been inactive.
What I mean is that you're not going to go draft two more left tackles IF based on the body of work in front of you that Chris Williams is a serviceable LT.
And it's hard to look back and remember this but when CW took over for Pace in the last part of 2009, he was a dramatic improvement.
He stonewalled Jared Allen in a game where everyone was expecting Jay to get flattened.
I think it's fair to say that we also didn't finish as the worst o-line in the league. There are several games early in the season where the combination of an unsettled line with bad pieces along with Martz singleminded devotion to 7 step drops made these guys all look terrible.
But in the last half of the season, the sack numbers dropped precipitously. The performance of that line is not a) linear across the year, and b) not all on Angelo. CW deserves some recognition for not performing up to his abilities at a position that we all thought was settled in December last year.
1. Coach's old balls would have ben an improvement to Pace!
2. 500 points for use of the very nice word, "precipitously"
3. Yes, agree with the improvement, but I'm not all that satisfied with a 'bottom 3rd' line either... and we said that about them last year too at the end of the season, then pop
I think this year is it for me. Barring injuries (knock on wood), there's no reason he shouldn't be able to make substantial upgrades at the remaining weak spots on the roster. A full complement of picks, franchise quality players at QB, RB, DE, MLB, WLB, Safety (I'm looking at you, Chris Harris)...no reasons not to have a productive draft and FA season.
Former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason, now a league broadcast analyst, defended the Chicago Bears' decision to bench Jay Cutler after he suffered a knee injury during the NFC Championship Game, citing the risk of long-term consequences.
"They, of course, could've shot his knee up, I'm sure, and put some Novocaine in there," Esiason said Thursday on "The Danny Mac Show" on WSCR-AM 670. "Then he could've went out there and completely obliterated his knee and ruined his entire career. So, there's always that fine line that you want to play hurt, and I understand that as long as you're effective and your teammates can rally around you that's great, but if you cannot be effective, you cannot protect yourself, then you shouldn't be on the field of play."
Fully aware of this Trac... there's an org out there called "Jews for Jesus" that cracks me up.
That's like AA for Alchohol... we'll, wihtout the 'vice' implications, but it's what popped into my head. Jews don't believe that jesus was the masiah, therefore that org is seen as somewhatof a sham by jews. anyway, I digress
Angelo has addressed the O-line, both successfully and unsuccessfully. He brought in Tait, Garza, and Ruben Brown and we had a great O-line for a couple years. Nice work Angelo. Then he missed on Pace. And he's missed on Omiyale and Schaffer. The jury is still our on Chris Williams as far as I'm concerned, though I am skeptical. But every GM had him graded as a first round pick. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'd say he's had equal parts success and failure when on the O-line. The failures have been recent, so it's what we remember. But how much of signing Pace was Lovie's idea? You have to wonder, being a former Ram and all.
I give him one more season on the line and the WR group.
We all thought Johnny Knox could be the real deal after last year. And we all like Earl Bennett. Losing Berrian made sense. And Muhammed was a good pick up for a couple seasons. We were all stoked when he came over. He definitely needs to improve in these areas, but no GM is successful with every acquisition. And he HAS had some success....
Williams sustained a back injury when he was a rook. I've had back problems off an on most of my life, they are brutal and never go away. I don't know if this has effected his play but I would be surprised if they haven't.
Yeah, it should be noted that Williams was nearly universally regarded as the top natural LT in the draft. It may not have worked, but it wasn't a ridiculous reach a la Dan Bazuin or Garret Wolfe.
Agree with most of what you said except for a couple things...
- cut our starting left tackle? yeah omayale isn't great, but he made strides this year. He's most likely entering camp as the #1 left tackle. Upgrading the position is a must, but you don't cut a guy you spent all of that time developing. That would be idiotic.
- Maynard's balls are old and saggy. He needs to go. Woopidy doo, he's good at the coffin corner...I've seen way too many 30 yard shanks the last couple of years. See you Brad, nice knowin ya.
- D Line, I'm looking forward to Wooten and Peppers as our starters next year. No slight on Izzy, but Woot Woot has better physical skills
undrafted free agent Khalil Bell is not the man. Forte and Kevin Jones was a good tandem but that didn't work out because of injury. Forte and Taylor would have been a great tandem but we didn't use Taylor for the exact reasons we brought him in. Use him in the passing and screen game and don't just put him in when everyone knows what's coming and you'll see a different back.
Yeah brilliant use of meaningless stats without any context whatsoever though. But sure, I bet all those 1st and 2nd down carries came early in critical games where we were just establishing the run game... right?
Christ, I just spent about half an hour composing a rebuttal, complete with stats, and the site rejected it because I wasn't logged in, then ate my text. Anyway here's the short version:
Chet had 34 carries total with the Bears up by more than one score, and three carries in the only game in which Bears were blown out. That puts an upper limit of 37 garbage time carries out of his 101 1st and 2nd down carries, and probably most of those weren't even garbage time yet.
His carries and averages are pretty much evenly distributed across all four quarters, so the "end of the game when Matty needed a spell" excuse doesn't fly either.
Stats aside, I know what I saw. An aging back with little burst who wasn't making good cuts or breaking tackles. He'll be 32 early next season, and I'd rather give his looks to a younger guy with an upside.
If Plaxico signs with the G-Men, do you think Manningham, Smith or Nix would be worth pursuing? Plax may want to go back to NY and I don't think the Bears would get into a bidding war for him.
maybe smith. Manningham has weak hands in my opinions. Hakeem Nicks is solid, I was hoping the Bears would of drafted him in the 2nd round back in 07? but the Gmen got him at 32nd pick.
85:
Two WR's on your list. Any hidden further down the list road? Anyone fast enough and big enough in the list to "convert" - although a variation on that experiment may have been tried.
I recused myself from all Bears / Packers because of high blood pressure and the constant threat of destroying an HD TV. I have also recused myself from any Jay Cutler comments / remarks because after Favre I'm just sick and tired of all quarterbacks for 2010.
You know my answer. I'm a floyed guy. All the height and speed, without all the bullshit. With a side serving of heart and 'team player' to go with it.
Floyd. Although, my favorite is still anquan. Fucking mach truck with speed and hands and leaps. Damn dude is a stud.
My favorite is when Trac called Peppers 6-year, $84M contract "shrewd". I'd like me some of Jerry's shrewdness. I'll mow his lawn for a 5-year $250k contract. A veritable bargain.
I will give him his due on Harris. Harris had one more season in the tank, and we got it out of him for Jamar Williams, who was hurt all season for the woeful Panthers. That was getting something for nothing, but now Harris is shot and should be released, I doubt he could outplay Craig Steltz next season but he did some good things this season.
I think you just used the wrong adjective(s) Trac...
You used: "Shrewd: astute or sharp in practical matters: a shrewd politician."
...When you should have used:
"Desperate:
1. reckless or dangerous because of despair or urgency: a desperate killer.
2. having an urgent need, desire, etc.: desperate for attention.
3. extreme or excessive.
4. making a final, ultimate effort; giving all: a desperate attempt to save a life.
Coupled with....
"Obvious: 1. easily seen, recognized, or understood; open to view or knowledge; evident: an obvious advantage.
2. lacking in subtlety."
(regarding Peppers at least)
For manu you meant...
"Illogical: not logical; contrary to or disregardful of the rules of logic; unreasoning: an illogical reply."
OR, if you'd prefer...
"Unfounded:
1. without foundation; not based on fact, realistic considerations, or the like: unfounded suspicions.
2. not established; not founded: the prophet of a religion as yet unfounded. "
+1 I dont know what theee fuck some of you are smoking. The guy played a good year for us, Big hits, and 5 ints. Thats something more than what all the other wanna be safeties havent done for awhile in Chicago.
The game was interesting in that the Bears' defensive play-calling sucked in the first half ... and then Capers calling sucked in the second, and Marinelli's got better. The sideline Yoda is becoming my favorite Bear. I love the sight of him shuffling up and down the sideline saying 'fuck!'.
fascinating, Captain. It appears they forgot all of their own viewing during pre-season and early season. It is as if they simply do not remember Megatron's touchdown at Ford Field when he simply ran around Chris Harris or Harris' other mental coverage mistakes and slow foot speed.
Even Ed Reed gets burned sometimes. And Megatron is no slouch. Harris is the best free safety we've had since Mike Brown. Can you agree to that? If so, how could we cut him? Only two ways in my opinion. If Pringles breaks out of his can, or a can't miss guy falls to us in the draft. But remember also. Isn't D. Manning a free agent this year? He may not be back. So Harris goes to Strong (his natural posish) and Pringles starts at free. Either way, I don't see how we release the Hitman.
Harris at strong and Pringles at Free, again puts us in the can't-last-very-long and not-impressive. I'd rather see Peanut play safety before we get that pairing. Harris is not good dropping back, regardless of the 5 INTs. Pringles is indecisive, but he was a rook ...
So we got a good year out of an aging safety, but gave up a good young linebacker for it? Not very shrewd at all, considering that every Panther fan on the planet was gobsmacked that we didn't wait - Harris would have been released a few days later. Getting Peppers was re-mortgaging the house, bold, not shrewd, ditto Cutler. Nothing Angelo does is shrewd - apart from earning millions of dollars a year whilst having no discernible talent
Can I say that this has been one of my favorite threads in a long time. Very funny, intelligent banter. Except for that complete waste of space packers fan. Jesus, what is it with those fucking morons?
True that. Everyone loves cheese, but who would ever be a fan of that stuff. That is like being a fan of sandwiches, you love sandwiches, but you are never a fan of making them,
The aging safety is 28 and the good young linebacker is 26. I agree JA could have waited and gotten Harris off the waiver wire but the 2 year age difference isn't much of an argument. Esp. since the good young linebacker was out almost all year.
Just for the record, I was simply trying to be funny while stating a fact that trac's changed his mind a bit latetly. And I don't really have an issue with it
He does suck. One can make an objective case for that by simply taking a list of draft picks and free agents, plus the money spent on each - and comparing that to the top 10 teams in the NFL.
I am pretty stoked about Cal. I'm doing great so far but I'll keep my nose to the grind stone. Does anyone think with our new personel that Angelo will make way better descions? Just sayin
Haven't had the time as of late to do my due diligence and read all the posts, so apologies if I'm redundant.
I advocated drafting all Oline this past draft (with the exception of one Safety), and I echo the same sentiment this year (but maybe we draft ONE DT, or WR, or "can't pass value" pick).
Jerry must go. Period. At the end of the day, each Bears fan has to ask himself, "Do I trust Angelo drafting?".
My answer: NO. I do not. Especially in the first 3 rounds. Finding gems in later rounds builds mediocre teams, landing pro-bowlers in the first 3 rounds builds championships.
As for FA, I would like Mankins, Asamougha, or soon to be Haynesworth, in that order, but realistically, we'll be lucky to get even one of those. I already covered all this and T. Harris in a previous post, so I won't be redundant for my rationale.
Hate to say this, but Brad Maynard must go. Look what GB did with a strong legged punter. Jeff wondered if the last game might change how we shape our future team, and I think it did in this area. We can't afford to give the Packers a short field and our D to continually stop them for the length of the game. We must have the ability to change field position with our punter, and make the Pack, and other teams, dink and dunk it 80+yards down field against our turn-over machines.
Hanie should have second string, and we all knew it here, so how in the hell did the coaching staff "misdiagnose" that one? It's infuriating, but we just gotta swallow that bitter pill cuz for the sake of the all sacred "continuity" (are we tired of hearing this coupled with the Steelers yet?), we must.
And on a final note, hopefully, of the Bears loss, I felt more comfortable when Hanie came in than with Jay at the beginning of the game. Hanie entered the game in probably one of the most pressure-filled situations a QB can be in, and did so with poise and confidence. Hanie just seemed to WANT it - it seemed like he had that infamous "it" factor. This especially stood out when contrasted with Cutler. Maybe Cutler can learn something from Hanie. Then again, maybe that's unlearn-able.
Bears85Sweetness23 said January 28, 2011 at 12:00 am
I'm not sure what your sentence in parenthesis was meant to read but, I'll be tenured next year and I'll be 36.
Definitely not down with the man. Probably one of the youngest in my department. My students give me awesome reviews because (I think) I don't look, act, or treat people like a typical Math professor. Stereotypes are for the weak minded. I smoked weed every day of my life since I was 22. I may have missed about five days in there. One of my goals was to shoot down the stereotype that weed makes you dumb. I made it through undergrad as one of the top math majors while smoking copious amounts of weed. I got my PhD in math while smoking weed every day, multiple times. I used to read a lot of philosphy. I am also very active. Do alot of hiking and outdoor activities. Used to be on a hotshot crew. Used to run a wildfire crew. Used to be an EMT. Play a little rock n' roll. Love sports. I am whatever I want to be, despite attempts made by people to place me in a box. Oh, you're a mathematician, well then you must be like this or this..... Bullshit. I am exaclty what I want to be. Because I control my own destiny. I don't smoke until the evening when all of my work is done, and then I stay stoned throughout the night. I believe that smoking weed as a young person could definitely affect your long term ability to use your brain to it's fullest( So I stared at 22). And when not mixed with the appropriate mental regimen, can dull your wits. Mixing in a little advanced mathematics every day surely has helped me stay sharp. Like everything else, life is about moderation and avoiding excesses. And nobody can tell me what will happen in my life. I'll make happen, what I want to happen.
Sorry, I know you didn't ask for all that, and I do realize how incredibly arrogant and self important all that makes me sound. I just really wanted to emphasize that stereotypes and boxes are little invisible forces that can control you if you let them. I will not.
I'm impressed Doc. What happens on the weekends? You covered the weekday routine, what about the weekend? Was your diatribe written pre buzz or post buzz?.............lol...go bears!
I should also say, to be fair, that there is one thing I have allowed to control me over the years. Something that sucks me in no matter what. Something that is always in the back of my mind, if not the forefront. Something that influences my moods to unjustifiable levels. Something I love so much that it gives me an itch that makes poison oak envious in it's longevity. An itch that YOU all have only served to made worse.....
Well my interest is peeked so I have to ask the question I'm sure is on everyone's minds. What's your research area?
I was a math major, finished my BS, and was really close to carrying on into grad school, but I just couldn't do it. Topology was and is still endlessly fascinating for me, but I couldn't get over the fact that I'd never be able to explain what I do to anyone outside the university. Telling someone at a party that you spend your days thinking about 3-manifolds or something has to get old.
So I went to law school, now everyone knows what I do and they all want free advice... should have stuck with the 3-manifolds.
Graph Theory, New Bear. Topology may have been my favorite though. Point-Set topology. But that's a tough area to make any new progress in. And nobody active was studying it at my school.
Graph Theory is something that can be explained to the avg layman. There are some good, easy to understand problems that are easily solved by graph theory.
I feel ya on the nobody gets it thing. It does get old. But I don't really want to have to talk shop all the time anyway. It's kind of nice to be able to tell people what you do and they quickly want to talk about something else. That's the way I prefer it.
We need cheerleaders. All the teams had their cheerleaders there and we are not represented. We won the big one with the Honey Bears, and now? Coincidence? I think not. A mile of street blocked off and I could barley walk, un freakin believable. Have no Idea how many fans in the streets but I say over 200 thousand. Marcus Allen gave a good talk, Eric Dickerson was good too. When they asked Dickerson the best player he ever played against? Singletary was the first name out of his mouth, Ronnie Lott the second mention. He said Mike S hit him so hard in that championship game, he saw stars, birds and bats flyin around. NFL mascots all were there, had my pic taken with Staley..was greeted numerous times by Da crowd of people hollering Da Bears! The players overwhelmingly want the game to stay in Hawaii. I wanted to stay longer but my hip was killing me. More stuff tomorrow after the game, and pics to follow during the week. I fly back to Chicago monday and get home Tuesday morning and I dont think Ill get the pics up until I get home. Sleep well and Bear Down!
Totally agree about the Cheerleaders Murph. My sister in Chicago always refers to them as football strippers. When I used to go to the games when we were terrible, they were the best part of the experience (that and about a 55 gallon drum of beer). Keep up the good work in Hawaii. Wish I was there.
Remember the chant? Honey Bears Honey Bears OOOOO aahhh Honey Bears Honey Bears OOOOOO AAAAAHHHHH. When the Bears were losing the Honey Bears were winning.
The Bears were never expected to make it as far as they did this year. At first, I was blaming Cutler as well, because it was such an exciting season and it was hard to watch it all go down in flames. Even though the Bears lost, Hanie made it an electrifying ending to a season that may have been a bit ahead of itself. If it weren
Been thinking about the draft, and going hog wild is not the thing to do. There are a few positions that need to be addressed, and I think we can reasonably get away with only drafting a tackle and a center on the OL.
Chris Williams at guard just isn't meant to be, neither is Omelette the answer at LT. Either make Omelette a really expensive bench warmer or deal his ass. Where's that kid Williams that owned Jared Allen one-on-one at the end of 2009? Williams back to LT.
Garza becomes a major liability next season, as does Kreutz - they just don't have the speed for one thing, both are a shadow of their former selves. Time to re-instate Lance Louis and Johan Asiata. The knock on these guys was experience - time to give it to them, have them in there from the start, be bold, don't run Garza and Kreutz into the ground like old jalopies. Address the changing of the guard now, not when it's too late. Louis and Asiata are big, strong maulers who can get down to the second level blocking for us. Do it.
Draft a center really high.
Webb? He's big, yeah. Clearly useful in run-blocking, but he is going to get Cutler killed. Guys ran around Webb all year long. Even when he did get a paw on them, it was either a holding call, or he just ushered them around and into Cutler. Bench until ready, or until the next draft pick is ready ...
Draft a tackle in the second. Somebody solid, who can go straight in at RT if needs be.
We don't need to re-sign Kreutz. History schmistory. Olin is not the Olin of old, and we do not require his services anymore. He can't play on forever so the sooner we make the transition the better for the team. Edwin Williams has played center, but pick number one needs to go on replacing Kreutz - now. Urlacher's replacement next year.
LT - Chris Williams (backup Webb/Shaffer)
LG - Lance Louis (Garza)
C - New Guy 1st rd pick (backup Edwin Williams)
RG - Johan Asiata (Garza)
RT - New Guy 1st rd pick (backup Webb/Shaffer)
Kreutz retires.
Omelette dealt.
Tice gets to work them together in the off-season and they should be firing on all cylinders towards the second-half of the season. We made the playoffs this year with the OL out to lunch for the first half of the season, but we need to remould that line now.
So two picks is all we really need for the OL. Then we can address LB, DL, CB and maybe pick up a power back. CB is an issue, Tim Jennings ain't all that. Corey Graham is likely not a Bear next season. Tillman is 30. Iwuh could be gone too. Asomugha needs to be the big FA signing, not OL. He's looking for a contender, we're looking for him.
Hate to say it Irish, but I think our management will like the progress out O line made and will give us the 'ol "We are pretty much set at the O line possitions". Then they will draft the fastest D lineman available. I like your thinking, but no way we we let Olin go and bench Garza.
...Your team has just survived an injury riddled season, was gifted the last wildcard slot by a team who didn't play very hard, then were handed the NFC Championship, and are now going to the super bowl!!!!
What are you going to do Packer Fans?
We're going to spend an hour searching for Chicago Bears Blogs to go post really funny and gloating comments on!!! Heeeee heeeeee heeeee
My drill instructor called us girls when our knee's started to get weak on our 25 mile forced march's MB. A questionable term of endearment among men MB.
Some GP predictions that won't make me any friends:
Peppers wanted to play well in the first year of his mega contract, and play well he did. But the Carolina knock on him is not unfounded. He vanished in the regular season game against the Seahawks. His playoff play was good, but not Reggie White dominating.
He will probably taper off in performance. He has all the money he needs for the rest of his life, and the contract was quite heavily front loaded, so he's paid. Will he go Haynesworth on us? Probably not. He will start to play down to Alex Brown levels, which is to say he will make good things happen, just not all the time and not against great tackles.
Every one of you at the end of next year's pre-season will be calling for Chris Harris' firing. Write it down. Jan 28, 2011 today. I'll catch back up with everyone on Labor Day 2011 on that one...
If the Bears struggle in the pre-season this year, Gayle Sayers will be there to say something shitty about the organization. Book it.
I honestly don't know about Martz. I want him to stay, because the offense is fun. It may not always win, but it does move the ball. His internal fued with Tice may mean somebody has to go, however, and in that case, I'd keep Tice.
That's all I got, that should be worth a few rotten tomatoes headed my way soon...
I'm with you on Harris GP, BUT... I wouldn't cut him lose, we just need a real starting (read: Fast, good angles, scary tackler, great in pass coverage, leader) back there to start. I LOVE ryan grant (steelers), wonder if he wants to switch? Anyway, Harris is a very good RUN down STRONG saftey. We need a real FS and harris can back up when needed.
I hate to say it, but fuck GS. Shut up dude.
I'm kind of with you on martz too. I just don't get the non-sequitor games where he goes off the reservation and what's been working. Evidence item #1 week 16 game against GB. Matty was TEARING them fucking up in the first half. Then we just stop fucking running? I was like, dude, wtf are you doing? 5-10 yards a pop and you stop running?
Then he comes out the next week and says 'hey, sorry, that's on me... so sorry. We should have and could have won with a more sound game plan (Read: equal run/pass that's PROVEN to win us games). He did that like what, 3 times this year (SEA, WASH, GB #2)? I'm totally down with keeping him, but Lovie needs to basically tell the guy that if his run/pass totals aren't equal every week he'll get fired.
Since everyone gets the stuff off of their chest. Lets quit the ball sack jokes. Theres a couple of us old guys battling gravity here! I got up in the middle of the night last night and ended up dunking those bastards! I was traumatized and I'd like the ball sack references stopped. Thank You!.............LMAO
They are getting ready to close the street in front of my hotel for some pre pro bowl game activities. Cheer leaders and players will be around. Im going to get pictures of this and of the game, I will post them on a web site for anyone thats interested. They had a bunch of cheer leaders at the Hilton Wednesday night but I didn't have a camera handy. I don't know what they did in Miami last year, but Hawaii really goes all out for this.
I agree with you on Martz. He's like a guy who learns the wrong lessons from Sun Tsu's art of war. For him, misdirection is everything.
I think he's still burned from Bellicheat taking his Rams team to task in the Super Bowl, so now he just wants to do what everybody thinks he won't do. He's like a random number generator with lots of entropy.
That movie never ceases to crack me up. And I'm the kind of person who thinks things are funny but doesn't laugh out loud too often. It has to be really funny. Like Kat Williams Stand up comedy funny. I laugh out loud all the way through the Big Lebowski.
Jon Goodman's character, Walter, is my favorite, other than the Dude himself. He's so perfect for that role. "Shamus Shabas!" ..."I don't drive on the Shabas, I don't talk on the phone on Shabas, and I sure as hell don't fucking roll!" "Shut the fuck up Donnie, you'r out of your element"...."This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the Ass!"....
And Jeff Bridges as the dude is the perfect old stoner dude. He doesn't overdo it. He just trails off a lot and nails the role perfectly.
All the characters are so perfect. The Jesus, Donnie, Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, the Nihilists, Sam Elliot. Just a perfect fucking movie. Great soundtrack too.
Seriously, if anybody on this board has not seen this movie, you aint seen shit.
And yes, The Coen brothers are insanely good. Every movie is very entertaining, if not great. Fargo, No Country for Old Men, Oh Brother Where Art Thou, Burn After Reading, and the ultimate Cult Classic, The Big Lebowski. Just great fucking stuff.
By the way, I mentioned it above but, if any o you has not Kat Williams do stand up comedy, you must do this now. See "The Pimp Chronicles Vol I". Guy is the best stand up since Chris Rock. Seriously funny and mostly positive dude.
The Best: Doug Stanhope. Check "No Refunds". If Bill Hicks were alive, he would be proud.
Consistently Good: Louis CK - Every single stand up he does is good.
Up and Coming Dark Horse: Anthony (motherfucking) Jeselnik. This guy changed my life. His album "Shakespeare" just came out... Download that shit, legally or otherwise. But definitely worth the $10 on iTunes.
Coen Brothers:
Raising Arizona - Fucking incredible.
Hudsucker Proxy - Fully unappreciated. If you haven't, then go have at it.
Burn After Reading? Is that shit any good? I saw it once, and have no urge to see it again... Maybe it's better the second time around.
O Brother Where Art Thou is my favorite. I can watch it again and again.
Clooney rocks. Up in the air. Welcome to Collinwood. Confessions of a dangerous mind. Good night and good luck. Syriana. Michael Clayton. He's even good in The American - a movie where nothing happens. Writes, directs and saves the world!
Just checking out Stanhope now - he's on Sacred Cow.... Bill Hicks' label. Burn after reading is the least brilliant of all their movies, they can't make a bad movie.
Um, if there's a lockout, going forward will be following and discussing the Chicago Rush in the Arena Football League or the Chicago Bliss in the Lingerie Football League?
Hailee Steinfeld being nominated in the Best Supporting Actress Category was a complete joke. She was in every single scene bar the last and the academy was afraid of a thirteen year old - who acted the pants of every other female this year - walking off with the Oscar. They were hoo-rahed by a little girl! Makes a mockery of the Oscars. Bridges deserves to win it twice in a row - but will they let him? Colin Firth was nothing special in The King's Speech. Best Actor/Actress/Adap.Scrnplay/Film/Direction.
Apparently the argument now is that Cutler doesn't have "Heart" cause he didn't fucking high five Caleb on the sidelines.
"Because nowhere in the symptoms of Grade II MCL tear does it include the inability to high-five a young QB who threw a TD pass to get your team back in the game"
Dude, Crown. I know you're a fucking DJ in your spare time/alter ego, so here you go: http://www.hoerboard.com/products/scomber-mix/http://www.hoerboard.com/products/scomber-mix/
With you on Pep. It's in the post guaranteed. He disappeared towards the end of the season and wasn't really a factor in the playoffs, or at least the whole line wasn't.
I wasn't up for Chris Harris' hiring, so that's a moot point with me. We got hosed in that deal. Waith three or four days and he was on waivers.
I don't care for Martz - he doesn't see the wood for the trees.
MikeBrownhadaPosse said January 29, 2011 at 12:00 am
Angelo clearly sucks, a stellar draft this year with 7 starters would merely be some slight redress for all the others he frakked up. He's the grandmother you don't like. Nothing you can do about it.
Not going to argue with you guys but I'm sort of shocked anyone would stick up for JA. Look at his picks from rounds 1-3 every year. Noticeable lack of studs.
Canada, I'm looking at the results this year and I'm defending Jerry's recent work, nothing more. It's a new ball game and all I'm saying is that Jerry is part of the Machine that's starting to look like it has a lot of promise. Jerry is an easy target, I'll give you that. I'm saying, lets see this thing run its course before we throw in the towel on JA's upcoming moves.
Exactly. Trac, Angelo didn't have much to do with this year. It was a whole lot of injury luck and some great bounces our way. I'm not just talking about the calvin johnson bullshit bounces or the injuries to other team's starters almost every weak... that shit is football, welcome to our 2009.
I'm mostly talking about that fact that no one else wanted to be our OC or DC... and thank goodness gracious, because those gents (with tice) thrown in with a little organizational desperation at the top got us this year. (and of course the health and spirit of the players)
NOT anything JA did. If anything, by not addressing the line for 3 years, the blame for losing that last game COULD be placed on him. i.e., if cutty had better protection he wouldn't have gotten hit so much. I know that's a gross oversimplification of why we lost that game (a slow d start and ridiculous specials field position really doomed us), but if the line was at least average and not sheite most of the year, how would things have gone?
GM's and football operations guys are sometimes too close to the personnel problems teams have MB. Lets face is, a lot of us thought Cutty was the final piece we needed to get to the Big Dance the year before last. We aren't talking about a huge amount of time between the end of that season and this one.
Hester definitely was a huge question mark at WR on the Blog but almost all of us were pretty certain that injuries to Brownie, Urlacher, Dusty, Harris and others were to blame. That and Turners bad playcalling. Our D spent so much time on the field that they were never able to catch their breath.
At least get him in space where he excelled with the Vikings - the guy is just as shifty as Matt.
I know it's the Madden talking but I'd love to see us running more two-back sets with both in, three-step drop and flare both backs. Who is GB going to use to cover them? They only have one LB that's decent in coverage and both guys can run over corners.
worst comment of all time the other day on the Score:
"No team can win if your running back has 10 catches for 90 yards."
I called in just to tell the screener that it was the dumbest fucking comment i'd ever heard on radio or tv. What do you mean you can't win if you throw to your awesome pass catching running back for 90 yards on 10 catches. If a receiver had those numbers it would be great. why is it less great that our running back did it? does it make it any less meaningful? did it not move the chains? Did it not keep the D honest? Brutal what some of these talking heads come up with. Forte should be catching 10 passes per game at the minimum.
Great thread Jeff. I totally agree with all you said. I'm confident both Jerry and Lovie will get extensions. No point on kickinig a dead horse on my end.
So...Who if anyone will be left once the Bears get their first pick in regards to the Offensive line spots? Anyone care to take a guess? I mean, unless the Bears trade for a better pick in the draft how are we going to get any caliber linemen? Will we have to rely on FA totally? This is my first concern. Aren't we better off trying to get a experienced lineman out of FA instead of picking up a rookie who may need at least a year to be have starter potential? Also, would it be bad to try and get a #1 WR FIRST before o-line?
Liked the post, Jefe. I may be alone in this, but I'm not sold on Hanie yet. He had one decent half against a defense that seemed to have gone to sleep after Collins went in. Maybe Collins's quick three and outs helped cool the defense down for Hanie. I don't know. The kid's got upside, I'm just not sure how much. And it can't be stubbornness alone that let Martz to put Hanie behind Collins on the depth chart. There was no mistaking how bad Collins was. Maybe Hanie just didn't get the system. I don't know. But it can't be pure stubbornness, can it?
Bears85Sweetness23 said January 28, 2011 at 12:00 am
Kid came in to an NFC champ title game having thrown 8 passes in the NFL. In between interceptions he did really well under pressure of the highest order. Given the number of snaps he's had, he looked really good against a top defense.
To all you girls still crying because Jerry's still on board, let me just say this. It is unreasonable to think that a GM can plug all the holes we had in one off season. I happen to think that what Jerry did by signing Peppers and Harris has turned out to be very shrewd. He shored up the Defense without doing what our politicians haven't yet seemed to figure out. He picked an area of the team to overhaul(the defense) and he did it effectively without causing long term damage by mortgaging our future draft picks in a year that had very few FA signings. Unga was 2nd or 3rd round value and he only cost us a 7th round pick. I believe the Bears accomplished waaaay more than was reasonably expected of this year and to ignore this fact by continuing to hold onto last years battle cry is just pure D posturing. It is an ignorant argument to suggest that Jerry didn't produce viable results from last years recent off season moves. I don't know, maybe some of you guys stamped your feet and got a Mercedes Benz for your 16th Birthday and a never ending well endowed trust fund when you graduated high school but that's not how it works in the NFL. You have to build a team piece by piece, and you have to be patient while doing it. Patience gents, patience.
My arguments during the year were valid while I was making them but given what the Bears were able to accomplish, they just don't hold water any more. The Bears just lost a winnable Championship game and in my opinion, the future will be brighter next year. I think it's a reasonable argument to make that the Bears are in a better position by choosing not to fill their O line holes than if they had last spring. To me, I think the risk Jerry took by trying to work with what we had was worth it. I think the Bears will actually be stronger by the time opening day rolls around next season than if they had of settled for mediocre fixes by trading this years draft picks which is what they would have had to do. Settle down girls, the ship will not sink.
I can't read your rambling comments anymore Trac. You change your mind every other day. Cunt hair? That's blasphemy you bitter man. You're just as bad as the guy that has to sit on his balls all day.
Everyone is still a little keyed up from the playoffs...we'll be hugging and talking politics in no time.
Oh, politics didn't work out so well?
OK, maybe just hugs.
Since I believe I am the only girl on here, I will say I am not crying about Angelo. Rather, I think of him as a part of life that is unavoidable, like death or taxes. No way he's going anywhere, so that is a moot point if there ever was one.
I would agree with that.
Neither one of them is a great between the tackles runner - although you really have to wonder how they would look if Logan Mankins was run blocking for them instead of Chris Williams...at least I do.
Omiyale isn't the guy letting pressure up the gut and leaving no room for our QB to step up or escape edge pressure.
Cutting him would be really, really stupid.
Cutting Chris Williams, on the other hand, is looking like a reasonable proposition if he hasn't turned it on by week #4.
We have GOT to draft a replacement for Kreutz this year. Even if old man river sticks around for two years, they need to be grooming someone to run that OL now.
I am excited to see how Woot Woot develops. I'd like to see us get another top-shelf DT.
Receiver should be obtained via free agency; no more rookies.
McGee is the heir-in-waiting at punter. I expect him to take it over in preseason for good.
I saw the Kreutz-Garza wall get blown up and pushed back more this yera than C.Williams. I think 74 can be servicable at guard given he now has a year under his belt at that position.
Izzy fell off a bit at the end of the year. I would like to see an honset competition between him and Woot the Favre ender.
Kreutz is done. Has been for a couple years. How many times did ya'll see him clapping is hands in disgust for blocks he missed or got owned on this year? Too many.
Ya, he has been a warrior and I appreciate him the way I appreciated McMichael. But we're pushing on a rope with Olin.
Good job, Max. I always wondered how they got the "fans" for the entertainment. Hope you stand out!
Can't say the Goo Goo Dolls are my favorite band but it could be a lot worse. It could be some Goat-Roping, Country Crap. My least favorite music genre. Don't mind the hardcore Country but almost all of the shit in the last 20 years is pop music with a phony twang going for the lowest common denominator (love mom, god, country).
I'm glad you point some of that shit out Doc. I read a lot in the morning and being a little dull from sleep, I'd be prone to miss that one without your assistance.
Oh I'll have the camera zooming in on Max at the beginning of the game. Pictures to be posted nest week. Bear Down Max, Ill be looking for you from the south end zone...in da shade.
Nah. The way that guy forced his way into that party? Tommy could never do that. Though he was unusually paranoid and prone to conclude the fault lay elsewhere...
Just got back from the game. Didnt see Max do the jersey thing. One stage was slightly obscured but my son watched and didnt catch anything either. Game was o.k. enough. Got some good pics at first but had to put the camera away after the drunk and rowdy polynesian fuck spilled his beer on me. Took a long halftime and then crashed some different seats. Left the game right when the fan runners hit the field, probably a highlight of the game. NFC owned the AFC in the first half and interest waned after that.Beer was $10 a cup but the selection was good. Ill do some editing and get some pics up this week. I did get good pics of every cheerleader as she was introduced. Long plane ride back to Chicago tomorrow and blizzard heading in shortly after my scheduled arrival. Later! Draft well, and Bear Down!
And yet another reason why Goodell is horrible. Why would you ever let something like that out to the press.
Never mind the fact that this team is playing in the Superbowl next week. Those are players that did nothing wrong and were put in a position where they had to be candid with the head of the league. What does Goodell do? Oh, I'll just tell Peter King all the nasty things they said about their team-mate, that'll really help the rehabilitation process.
I hope it turns out he did something terrible in his personal life (like Eliot Spitzer or some such) and the whole world gets to hear about it and lambastes him in the press for a few months. Jerk.
Spitzer's crime was trying to stick it up Ashley Dupree's bum with his black socks still on, sans condom. And with a wife at home, who admits she's kinda frigid.
You are an attorney. I assume you made through criminal law. On the chart, that one just doesn't scream out 'terrible'.
I know you guys dont want to draft a reciever, but I gotta keep pluggin this kid out of my SDSU Aztec program. I have mentioned the name before, but Vincent Brown could immediately step in and make a big impact on this team. SDSU had the most underrated reciever duo in college football between Brown and DeMarco Sampson. Brown has maybe the best hands in the draft and a burst to be DBs off the line.
I agree entirely. Johnny Knox is responsible for over 50% of the interceptions this year, with under 20% of the looks, must have a receiver who can beat defenders, don't know about your guys though. As I look at using my draft pick this year I'd pick up an Oline man with an explosive burst that is huge and strong as heck. Mix those three to find the right person, if they don't go to the combine they don't get picked, The best hit in this whole year was when speedy Jay blocked for Forte and drilled an O-lineman on a play in the championship. I got up out of my chair literally and cheered. Then he got injured 1 or two plays after that.
Wow, so I go away for a couple days, and Da Blog has turned into a movie review page, a place to cry for nonexistant (yay) cheerleaders (the drumline is much better), and a support group for those with saggy balls. See how I did that?
You'll find out in the offseason that these types of discussions are the only thing that keeps us afloat... and the reason being a 'regular' holds value (in my mind at least). The core group here talk about a lot more than football when there's not much football to talk about.
I just realized something, isn't the loser of the Conference championship supposed to coach the probowl? Why was it Belichick and Mike Smith instead of Rex and Lovie?
I'd say Irish is correct that drafting our favorite Center is the best way to spend a bottom third first round pick.
I tend to agree with Jeff's assessment except that our Defensive Line was only oustanding on the outside. We have talent at tackle, but would benefit from depth at the position as well as a real monster if one came available. I would not begrudge a DT pick high in the draft to build on one of our team's real strengths.
I am ranking my draft needs based on position only, not on players that may be available. Given two players of equal talent (which doesn't exist in real life) I would pick by position in the following order.
LT
C
CB
WR
FS
RT
DT
G
FB
LB
RB
P
QB
SS
RB
TE
DE
I realize after I make this list that it changes a bit depending on the round. I would be willing to spend a 3rd or 4th rounder on a solid full-back who can block for Cutler and Forte and get short yardage carries, but not our #1 (I'd rather trade up or down if we can't get value there).
Even though I made LT my #1, I doubt we'll be seeing a quality option where we are at in the draft. But there is a good chance that we could be the first to pick up a center, and if that happens I think the decision is an easy one.
Cutty's flesh cannon of sweet death which will impregnate opposing defenses with dread whilst creating fear boners amongst defensive coordinators of the great satan that is GB, Detroit and Minny
agreed, but you can complain about Tommie Harris. JP's coming was suppose to make Tommie "rejuvenated," but he had 1 good game against the Seahawks this season (maybe he had a couple of more....which someone would like to point out).
if they cut him, would not be mad at all; dude is expendable at this point. as far as CB, either the draft, FA, but not both. Nnamdi would be GREAT, but the money's gonna be tough (especially w/ Pep's contract & Matty getting his justly-do extension). but, wouldn't be mad w/ him or that one dude from Texas (Aaron something).
now...as far as OL, i trust in whatever Tice does. if he takes 2 in the 2nd & 4th (while we draft Casey Matthews.....shit i'll take it). if he does it 3rd & 4th, 3rd & 5th, then cool. b/c this line (BY FAR THE WORST LINE IN FOOTBALL) played in the NFC Championship (w/ 2 over the hill guys, a rook, and 2 busts). that's all credit to Tice as far as i'm concerned.
OL research upcoming...
Don't draft Casey Mathews please!!!
keep hearing he's a beast, but idk....Pac-10 does have a lot of talent now-a-days
Why Coach?
...I mean besides the totally and utterly gay hair
(not that there's anything wrong with that)
Should Tommie Harris be viewed as an "opportunity to clear cap space?"
Then again, that would seem to be moot until they hammer out a new CBA.
http://bit.ly/i2piw3
great article.
o and here's a guy we can get for a steal in the 2nd-3rd (shameless alma mater plug):
Name: DeMarcus Love
College: Arkansas Number: 65
Height: 6-5 Weight: 318
Position: OT Pos2: OG
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2011
40 Time: 5.18 40 Low: 5.09 40 High: 5.30
Projected Round: 2
Rated number 6 out of 169 OT's
seen him play all year (he was LT for Mallett). Mallett (love the kid, but the truth is the truth) is a STATUE in the pocket; he didn't get sacked that much (and if he did, it wasn't b/c of D-Love). if i were Tice, I'd be looking at this kid really hard.
also....apparently Larry Fitz is "available for the right price." yea or nay?
Yah I have a friend from the Philly area that told me all the talk there is about trading Kolb and their 1st for Fitz and asking for a 2nd for Maclin so that they really only lose 1/2 a position in the draft. I am sure tons of teams will try for something to that affect but there aren't many teams with a startable QB to offer.
I hope the Eagles make that deal - it would be idiotic given the OL and defensive backfield issues they have.
If they think Vick is going to last 16 games next season, wow.
Hey, strike while the iron is hot and trade Hanie and a 3rd for Fitzgerald.
Hello? Andy? Did you just hang up on me?
Tiny guy... jesus.
Uh....YEA Please!
Yay big time on Larry. I think he would fit in really well.
Well he's probably going in rds 1-3, and I don't think we should use any of our early picks on the d. Plus, he looks just like his brother, and fuck him in his carny face!
Ha! Fair enough.
Chicago Football is not over!!!
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She's a MAAAAAAN baby!
I'm with Coach on this one. Ick.
Agreed Irish. I honestly think we cut our ties with Tommie.
oh shit. I get you and irish confused sometimes.
They were using the same avatar for awhile - Irish has a new one of Sweetness.
Agreed that the FIRST priority must be Offensive Line. I can't wait to see Angelo's rationalizations for not addressing it.
I'm not sold on the interior of our D-Line--Peppers and Idonije where consistent, for the most part, but Harris still needs to go. The Defense sucks without a good pass rush and we need to ensure that we hit 2011 hard in that area.
O-line is a must but I would rather see at least one brought in via free agency. I'd like to see a CB drafted first. Our defensive back depth is marginal at best, and Peanut's best days I fear are behind him. I say sign Olin to a 1-2 year deal and draft a center no earlier that the 4th to be someone that learns behind him. Let Tommie Harris go and spend that money somewhere else. A rookie wide-receiver will have little value to us next year. I have no problems drafting one but please don't make it early unless it's someone that just dropped down the draft order for no reason and should have been top 10. The Bears need a proven reciever not a developmental project.
Shit, FQD--beat me to it. Looking forward to the Oline propspects.
I am all for moving on to 2011, and hope there is no 'war' as anticipated.
You know, a lot of us bitched and moaned about the areas that weren't addressed last off season but we ended up a c--t hair away from going to the Super Bowl. I believe Jerry will make the necessary moves this off season to kick it up a notch.
Trac, I have to say this... you've become more fickle than a teenage prom queen. Become more contradictory than a 'jew for jesus'.
You were with us saying that if jerry didn't fix the oline last year that he had to go. He didn't, and oline was STILL our most glaring weakness... if not THE weakness. They all had win or get fired preassure last year and he still did nothing. What makes you think he'll fix it this year? Just that it's become so obvious and glaring that if he doesn't his idiocy will definitley be exposed for all to see
I don't think anybody anticipated, especially after the last four games of 2009, that CW was going to be a bust at LT. That and the injury problems cascaded across the whole line. Angelo may not have predicted the future but drafting CW, picking up Shaffer and Omiyale...he hasn't been inactive.
MBP, so his call to fame is pulling together one of, if not THEE, worst oline in the NFL, AND picking a 1st rd bust?
Sweet. Put that on the resume!
What I mean is that you're not going to go draft two more left tackles IF based on the body of work in front of you that Chris Williams is a serviceable LT.
And it's hard to look back and remember this but when CW took over for Pace in the last part of 2009, he was a dramatic improvement.
He stonewalled Jared Allen in a game where everyone was expecting Jay to get flattened.
I think it's fair to say that we also didn't finish as the worst o-line in the league. There are several games early in the season where the combination of an unsettled line with bad pieces along with Martz singleminded devotion to 7 step drops made these guys all look terrible.
But in the last half of the season, the sack numbers dropped precipitously. The performance of that line is not a) linear across the year, and b) not all on Angelo. CW deserves some recognition for not performing up to his abilities at a position that we all thought was settled in December last year.
MBP,
1. Coach's old balls would have ben an improvement to Pace!
2. 500 points for use of the very nice word, "precipitously"
3. Yes, agree with the improvement, but I'm not all that satisfied with a 'bottom 3rd' line either... and we said that about them last year too at the end of the season, then pop
I think this year is it for me. Barring injuries (knock on wood), there's no reason he shouldn't be able to make substantial upgrades at the remaining weak spots on the roster. A full complement of picks, franchise quality players at QB, RB, DE, MLB, WLB, Safety (I'm looking at you, Chris Harris)...no reasons not to have a productive draft and FA season.
From Boomer Esiason, of all people...
Former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason, now a league broadcast analyst, defended the Chicago Bears' decision to bench Jay Cutler after he suffered a knee injury during the NFC Championship Game, citing the risk of long-term consequences.
"They, of course, could've shot his knee up, I'm sure, and put some Novocaine in there," Esiason said Thursday on "The Danny Mac Show" on WSCR-AM 670. "Then he could've went out there and completely obliterated his knee and ruined his entire career. So, there's always that fine line that you want to play hurt, and I understand that as long as you're effective and your teammates can rally around you that's great, but if you cannot be effective, you cannot protect yourself, then you shouldn't be on the field of play."
Boomers not bad, I'd say he's only 1/3 douche
Boomer is the anti-Phil Sims.
I thought they were twins.
I always mix those turds up too.
Jesus was a Jew MB.
You have a point there.
Fully aware of this Trac... there's an org out there called "Jews for Jesus" that cracks me up.
That's like AA for Alchohol... we'll, wihtout the 'vice' implications, but it's what popped into my head. Jews don't believe that jesus was the masiah, therefore that org is seen as somewhatof a sham by jews. anyway, I digress
Angelo has addressed the O-line, both successfully and unsuccessfully. He brought in Tait, Garza, and Ruben Brown and we had a great O-line for a couple years. Nice work Angelo. Then he missed on Pace. And he's missed on Omiyale and Schaffer. The jury is still our on Chris Williams as far as I'm concerned, though I am skeptical. But every GM had him graded as a first round pick. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I'd say he's had equal parts success and failure when on the O-line. The failures have been recent, so it's what we remember. But how much of signing Pace was Lovie's idea? You have to wonder, being a former Ram and all.
I give him one more season on the line and the WR group.
We all thought Johnny Knox could be the real deal after last year. And we all like Earl Bennett. Losing Berrian made sense. And Muhammed was a good pick up for a couple seasons. We were all stoked when he came over. He definitely needs to improve in these areas, but no GM is successful with every acquisition. And he HAS had some success....
Williams sustained a back injury when he was a rook. I've had back problems off an on most of my life, they are brutal and never go away. I don't know if this has effected his play but I would be surprised if they haven't.
Yeah, it should be noted that Williams was nearly universally regarded as the top natural LT in the draft. It may not have worked, but it wasn't a ridiculous reach a la Dan Bazuin or Garret Wolfe.
There are Angelo supporters? Wow. Must have missed them.
Agree with most of what you said except for a couple things...
- cut our starting left tackle? yeah omayale isn't great, but he made strides this year. He's most likely entering camp as the #1 left tackle. Upgrading the position is a must, but you don't cut a guy you spent all of that time developing. That would be idiotic.
- Maynard's balls are old and saggy. He needs to go. Woopidy doo, he's good at the coffin corner...I've seen way too many 30 yard shanks the last couple of years. See you Brad, nice knowin ya.
- D Line, I'm looking forward to Wooten and Peppers as our starters next year. No slight on Izzy, but Woot Woot has better physical skills
Woot Woot is going to really be something. There is no doubt.
Maynard's balls:
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f149/elephantitis-scrotum-44520/
those things are going to be the end of his coffin corner....
What The Fuck? Poor bastard has to sit on his balls. Hope he never has to ride a bike. Jebus.
Knew a guy like that in college. Poor bastard. But, it made keg stands easier for em.
You fuckin' *kill* me Crown. Always seeing that silver lining, ain't ya?
We need a #2 RB as well, or we're either going to run Fort
undrafted free agent Khalil Bell is not the man. Forte and Kevin Jones was a good tandem but that didn't work out because of injury. Forte and Taylor would have been a great tandem but we didn't use Taylor for the exact reasons we brought him in. Use him in the passing and screen game and don't just put him in when everyone knows what's coming and you'll see a different back.
+1000.
Hey look, it's 3rd and 3 and it's goalline... here comes Chet taylor for the first time all game... I wonder who'll be getting the ball?
Oh shit... stopped at the LOS because every single defender rushed the box... man chet sucks, we should never have picked him up!
Brutal. Great fucking strateegery Martz.
Next year... SPLIT FUCKING BACKS PLEASE!!!!
Taylor had 122 carries this year. Of those, 63 were on first down, 38 on second down, 10 on third down, and one on fourth down.
He had 23 carries in the opponent's red zone.
But sure, his numbers sucked because all of his carries were on 3rd and goal from the 3.
On first down he had 63 carries for for 166 yards (2.6 ypc) and a long of 12 yards.
For comparison on first down Matt had 134 carries for 574 yards (4.3 ypc) with a long of 68.
Do you have the receiving yards handy?
Yeah brilliant use of meaningless stats without any context whatsoever though. But sure, I bet all those 1st and 2nd down carries came early in critical games where we were just establishing the run game... right?
F for grammar... you can figure it out.
Christ, I just spent about half an hour composing a rebuttal, complete with stats, and the site rejected it because I wasn't logged in, then ate my text. Anyway here's the short version:
Chet had 34 carries total with the Bears up by more than one score, and three carries in the only game in which Bears were blown out. That puts an upper limit of 37 garbage time carries out of his 101 1st and 2nd down carries, and probably most of those weren't even garbage time yet.
His carries and averages are pretty much evenly distributed across all four quarters, so the "end of the game when Matty needed a spell" excuse doesn't fly either.
Stats aside, I know what I saw. An aging back with little burst who wasn't making good cuts or breaking tackles. He'll be 32 early next season, and I'd rather give his looks to a younger guy with an upside.
Was the "only game in which the bears were blown out" the patriots game or the Giants game?
Giants game was close for most of it, just seemed like more of a blowout because we never smelt the enzone
Right, we we're down one score with 5 minutes left in the Giants game. Not a blowout.
He's a 32 year old with relatively few carries...so let's be fair.
I didn't care much for how he was used this year.
If Plaxico signs with the G-Men, do you think Manningham, Smith or Nix would be worth pursuing? Plax may want to go back to NY and I don't think the Bears would get into a bidding war for him.
maybe smith. Manningham has weak hands in my opinions. Hakeem Nicks is solid, I was hoping the Bears would of drafted him in the 2nd round back in 07? but the Gmen got him at 32nd pick.
Smith will be gone, and no way there is a bidding war for Plax.
I think Plaxico is a idiot.
Excellent receiver but an idiot nonetheless.
That said, I don't understand why he was denied early release. He's not Al Capone and he did shoot HIMSELF.
85:
Two WR's on your list. Any hidden further down the list road? Anyone fast enough and big enough in the list to "convert" - although a variation on that experiment may have been tried.
I recused myself from all Bears / Packers because of high blood pressure and the constant threat of destroying an HD TV. I have also recused myself from any Jay Cutler comments / remarks because after Favre I'm just sick and tired of all quarterbacks for 2010.
Brightest Day begins in 2011 in Chicago.
well done Jack. Carry on sir, nothing to see back there.
I don't know if anyone posted this list of WR free agents for 2011.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/fa/wr.html
MB, Floyd or Jackson?
Jackson is the stand out for me.
Yep. No question; Jackson is bigger, younger, more explosive.
We need a safety,lol.
Bear Down!Go Bears!
Eeeeeasy sixteen
GREAT fucking question Trac.
You know my answer. I'm a floyed guy. All the height and speed, without all the bullshit. With a side serving of heart and 'team player' to go with it.
Floyd. Although, my favorite is still anquan. Fucking mach truck with speed and hands and leaps. Damn dude is a stud.
V-Jax in his drunken stuptor (if he's not talking TOO much money). if not him, then Sidney Rice.
I'm absolutely with you on Boldin.
Just fits the mold...with the speed guys stretching the field, Anquan would be killing it in the slot.
If you're a Charger free agent, aren't you just ITCHING to get the hell away from A.J. Smith?
Agreed
My favorite is when Trac called Peppers 6-year, $84M contract "shrewd". I'd like me some of Jerry's shrewdness. I'll mow his lawn for a 5-year $250k contract. A veritable bargain.
I will give him his due on Harris. Harris had one more season in the tank, and we got it out of him for Jamar Williams, who was hurt all season for the woeful Panthers. That was getting something for nothing, but now Harris is shot and should be released, I doubt he could outplay Craig Steltz next season but he did some good things this season.
My shrewd comment refers to the fact that Jerry pretty much doubled down on our D GP. It worked.
I think you just used the wrong adjective(s) Trac...
You used: "Shrewd: astute or sharp in practical matters: a shrewd politician."
...When you should have used:
"Desperate:
1. reckless or dangerous because of despair or urgency: a desperate killer.
2. having an urgent need, desire, etc.: desperate for attention.
3. extreme or excessive.
4. making a final, ultimate effort; giving all: a desperate attempt to save a life.
Coupled with....
"Obvious: 1. easily seen, recognized, or understood; open to view or knowledge; evident: an obvious advantage.
2. lacking in subtlety."
(regarding Peppers at least)
For manu you meant...
"Illogical: not logical; contrary to or disregardful of the rules of logic; unreasoning: an illogical reply."
OR, if you'd prefer...
"Unfounded:
1. without foundation; not based on fact, realistic considerations, or the like: unfounded suspicions.
2. not established; not founded: the prophet of a religion as yet unfounded. "
Ha. That's a lot of work you just put in MB. I'm impressed.
Glad I made you smile trac.
Orlando Pace's ballsack could outplay Craig Steltz.
Until of course, Craig Steltz speared Orlando's ballsack in the ribs and knocked him out for the season.
His sack is very athletic to his credit posse
Harris should be released? What in thee fuck? He was top dog in the secondary if you ask me. Released..come on man. He's got a hip pointer
+1 I dont know what theee fuck some of you are smoking. The guy played a good year for us, Big hits, and 5 ints. Thats something more than what all the other wanna be safeties havent done for awhile in Chicago.
Oh oh oh... and Peter King picked him as the best in the N-F-L... so how you like dem apples?!
If there were any reason to cut Harris, Peter King's accolades would be it.
hee hee
We have a winner in the Larry David - "Take That Off Your Head Award"
Dom Capers
Ouch. I tell you one thing Jack... the man knows how to create a motherfucker of a defense. Dude is an evil defensive genius.
Too bad he's wasted his talents on a team (and fanbase) that's so incredibly douchy.
Before the Titans said "Adios" to Jeff Fisher, they made him fire his DC, Chuck Cecil.
Maybe Mr. Capers will look attractive to Bud Adams as a head coach....?
interesting Al, very interesting. Would make sense.
The game was interesting in that the Bears' defensive play-calling sucked in the first half ... and then Capers calling sucked in the second, and Marinelli's got better. The sideline Yoda is becoming my favorite Bear. I love the sight of him shuffling up and down the sideline saying 'fuck!'.
+1!
He reminds me of THE THING from Fnatastic Four when he stalks around the sidelines. I bet the VC scattered when they saw him comiung in 'Nam.
I'm with Coach. That's just flat our ridiculous. Who wrote that? Jamar's mom?
out not our.
Damn, that was harsh. I'm sure she's a very very nice lady Doc.
Collective amnesia.
(Spock voice)
fascinating, Captain. It appears they forgot all of their own viewing during pre-season and early season. It is as if they simply do not remember Megatron's touchdown at Ford Field when he simply ran around Chris Harris or Harris' other mental coverage mistakes and slow foot speed.
(Raise eyebrow)
Illogical.
Even Ed Reed gets burned sometimes. And Megatron is no slouch. Harris is the best free safety we've had since Mike Brown. Can you agree to that? If so, how could we cut him? Only two ways in my opinion. If Pringles breaks out of his can, or a can't miss guy falls to us in the draft. But remember also. Isn't D. Manning a free agent this year? He may not be back. So Harris goes to Strong (his natural posish) and Pringles starts at free. Either way, I don't see how we release the Hitman.
I like harris Doc, but did you just use his name in the same sentence as Mike motherfucking Brown?
For fucking SHAME Doc! 10 hail marry's and a how's your father right now please doc.
Harris can't hold Mike Brown's oft-injured jock. But he's at least three leagues above the other clowns we've put out there.
Oh please. Ya'll get a grip on Mike Brown. A good player would could not stay on the field.
Just like McMahon
Ooooooooh no.
Harris at strong and Pringles at Free, again puts us in the can't-last-very-long and not-impressive. I'd rather see Peanut play safety before we get that pairing. Harris is not good dropping back, regardless of the 5 INTs. Pringles is indecisive, but he was a rook ...
Peanut has had surgery on both shoulders. I'm guessing playing safety is a last resort for him.
Crauig Steltz? That, GP, is COLD.
With you on the Peppers/shrewd thing GP.
So we got a good year out of an aging safety, but gave up a good young linebacker for it? Not very shrewd at all, considering that every Panther fan on the planet was gobsmacked that we didn't wait - Harris would have been released a few days later. Getting Peppers was re-mortgaging the house, bold, not shrewd, ditto Cutler. Nothing Angelo does is shrewd - apart from earning millions of dollars a year whilst having no discernible talent
Brilliant last sentence Irish. Very nice. And so Truuuuuue!
Can I say that this has been one of my favorite threads in a long time. Very funny, intelligent banter. Except for that complete waste of space packers fan. Jesus, what is it with those fucking morons?
True that. Everyone loves cheese, but who would ever be a fan of that stuff. That is like being a fan of sandwiches, you love sandwiches, but you are never a fan of making them,
Aging safety? he's been in the league 5 fucking years. he's 28 years old for god's sake not 33
The aging safety is 28 and the good young linebacker is 26. I agree JA could have waited and gotten Harris off the waiver wire but the 2 year age difference isn't much of an argument. Esp. since the good young linebacker was out almost all year.
Just for the record, I was simply trying to be funny while stating a fact that trac's changed his mind a bit latetly. And I don't really have an issue with it
He does suck. One can make an objective case for that by simply taking a list of draft picks and free agents, plus the money spent on each - and comparing that to the top 10 teams in the NFL.
Simple math GP... I like it.
Don't say "simple math". You'll piss of Super-Erik-Artoo-Man
yeah, he should be studying anyway, so it's his punishment.
GET BACK TO WORK ERIK!
Artoo? Nah, studying ....
Okay, I'll bite. Post it.
http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2011/01/24/troy-aikman-splits-with-his-wife/
Aikman has been having an affair with Aaron Rodgers.
Serously. Did you see the pic of that monumental d-bag I posted last thread. In his 10 gallon and ass-chaps.
He may be a good QB, but What a fucking clown.
Did he have moustache extensions in that photo? It was disturbing.
haha. He is a fucking clown!
I am pretty stoked about Cal. I'm doing great so far but I'll keep my nose to the grind stone. Does anyone think with our new personel that Angelo will make way better descions? Just sayin
Nice. I hear Cal's a great guy!
Haven't had the time as of late to do my due diligence and read all the posts, so apologies if I'm redundant.
I advocated drafting all Oline this past draft (with the exception of one Safety), and I echo the same sentiment this year (but maybe we draft ONE DT, or WR, or "can't pass value" pick).
Jerry must go. Period. At the end of the day, each Bears fan has to ask himself, "Do I trust Angelo drafting?".
My answer: NO. I do not. Especially in the first 3 rounds. Finding gems in later rounds builds mediocre teams, landing pro-bowlers in the first 3 rounds builds championships.
As for FA, I would like Mankins, Asamougha, or soon to be Haynesworth, in that order, but realistically, we'll be lucky to get even one of those. I already covered all this and T. Harris in a previous post, so I won't be redundant for my rationale.
Hate to say this, but Brad Maynard must go. Look what GB did with a strong legged punter. Jeff wondered if the last game might change how we shape our future team, and I think it did in this area. We can't afford to give the Packers a short field and our D to continually stop them for the length of the game. We must have the ability to change field position with our punter, and make the Pack, and other teams, dink and dunk it 80+yards down field against our turn-over machines.
Hanie should have second string, and we all knew it here, so how in the hell did the coaching staff "misdiagnose" that one? It's infuriating, but we just gotta swallow that bitter pill cuz for the sake of the all sacred "continuity" (are we tired of hearing this coupled with the Steelers yet?), we must.
And on a final note, hopefully, of the Bears loss, I felt more comfortable when Hanie came in than with Jay at the beginning of the game. Hanie entered the game in probably one of the most pressure-filled situations a QB can be in, and did so with poise and confidence. Hanie just seemed to WANT it - it seemed like he had that infamous "it" factor. This especially stood out when contrasted with Cutler. Maybe Cutler can learn something from Hanie. Then again, maybe that's unlearn-able.
Give a man everything, he will want nothing.
give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for life
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he smells lit bait for life.
How did the bait get lit? Brings new meaning to "beer battered".
Missed the K in "like".
Great minds think alike (via http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/01/brian-urlacher-still-upset-over-jay-cutler-criticism.html):
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changed the avi to quell the confusion between Irish & me and to formally announce my spot in the Jay Cutler fan club.
I find reading your handle to be quite helpful to that end.
always the fucking smart guy. Are you tenured yet doc (you seem way to you and ... not down with the man)?
I'm not sure what your sentence in parenthesis was meant to read but, I'll be tenured next year and I'll be 36.
Definitely not down with the man. Probably one of the youngest in my department. My students give me awesome reviews because (I think) I don't look, act, or treat people like a typical Math professor. Stereotypes are for the weak minded. I smoked weed every day of my life since I was 22. I may have missed about five days in there. One of my goals was to shoot down the stereotype that weed makes you dumb. I made it through undergrad as one of the top math majors while smoking copious amounts of weed. I got my PhD in math while smoking weed every day, multiple times. I used to read a lot of philosphy. I am also very active. Do alot of hiking and outdoor activities. Used to be on a hotshot crew. Used to run a wildfire crew. Used to be an EMT. Play a little rock n' roll. Love sports. I am whatever I want to be, despite attempts made by people to place me in a box. Oh, you're a mathematician, well then you must be like this or this..... Bullshit. I am exaclty what I want to be. Because I control my own destiny. I don't smoke until the evening when all of my work is done, and then I stay stoned throughout the night. I believe that smoking weed as a young person could definitely affect your long term ability to use your brain to it's fullest( So I stared at 22). And when not mixed with the appropriate mental regimen, can dull your wits. Mixing in a little advanced mathematics every day surely has helped me stay sharp. Like everything else, life is about moderation and avoiding excesses. And nobody can tell me what will happen in my life. I'll make happen, what I want to happen.
Sorry, I know you didn't ask for all that, and I do realize how incredibly arrogant and self important all that makes me sound. I just really wanted to emphasize that stereotypes and boxes are little invisible forces that can control you if you let them. I will not.
I'm impressed Doc. What happens on the weekends? You covered the weekday routine, what about the weekend? Was your diatribe written pre buzz or post buzz?.............lol...go bears!
Post buzz means pre buzz on the weekends, if you get my drift.
Hey Doc, you're a true Renaissance Man. For a no-good, dope-smoking, commie-loving hippie. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I should also say, to be fair, that there is one thing I have allowed to control me over the years. Something that sucks me in no matter what. Something that is always in the back of my mind, if not the forefront. Something that influences my moods to unjustifiable levels. Something I love so much that it gives me an itch that makes poison oak envious in it's longevity. An itch that YOU all have only served to made worse.....
DA BEARSSSSS!!!
Well my interest is peeked so I have to ask the question I'm sure is on everyone's minds. What's your research area?
I was a math major, finished my BS, and was really close to carrying on into grad school, but I just couldn't do it. Topology was and is still endlessly fascinating for me, but I couldn't get over the fact that I'd never be able to explain what I do to anyone outside the university. Telling someone at a party that you spend your days thinking about 3-manifolds or something has to get old.
So I went to law school, now everyone knows what I do and they all want free advice... should have stuck with the 3-manifolds.
Graph Theory, New Bear. Topology may have been my favorite though. Point-Set topology. But that's a tough area to make any new progress in. And nobody active was studying it at my school.
Graph Theory is something that can be explained to the avg layman. There are some good, easy to understand problems that are easily solved by graph theory.
I feel ya on the nobody gets it thing. It does get old. But I don't really want to have to talk shop all the time anyway. It's kind of nice to be able to tell people what you do and they quickly want to talk about something else. That's the way I prefer it.
Doc, all things in moderation, *including moderation*. Methinks you should mix in some austerity and some excess.
And that advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
go pack go!!!! Are all you chicago bears fans done crying yet???
You need a good tea bagging you skanky packer troll.
look up doc.
I meant look up Murph.
Were you getting hate mail FQ? And is that the first Cutler avatar on here? Can that be true?
no hate mail yet; i'm a trendsetter.
the new avatar is creeping me out though FQ
yea dude.
it's haunting your dreams....
FQ, no hate mail from me. My Facebook pic is Jay. I may join you in this.
Ahem. AHEM.
In A BEARS uniform mang !
Well, you didn't say that THAT was one of the standards...
We need cheerleaders. All the teams had their cheerleaders there and we are not represented. We won the big one with the Honey Bears, and now? Coincidence? I think not. A mile of street blocked off and I could barley walk, un freakin believable. Have no Idea how many fans in the streets but I say over 200 thousand. Marcus Allen gave a good talk, Eric Dickerson was good too. When they asked Dickerson the best player he ever played against? Singletary was the first name out of his mouth, Ronnie Lott the second mention. He said Mike S hit him so hard in that championship game, he saw stars, birds and bats flyin around. NFL mascots all were there, had my pic taken with Staley..was greeted numerous times by Da crowd of people hollering Da Bears! The players overwhelmingly want the game to stay in Hawaii. I wanted to stay longer but my hip was killing me. More stuff tomorrow after the game, and pics to follow during the week. I fly back to Chicago monday and get home Tuesday morning and I dont think Ill get the pics up until I get home. Sleep well and Bear Down!
Totally agree about the Cheerleaders Murph. My sister in Chicago always refers to them as football strippers. When I used to go to the games when we were terrible, they were the best part of the experience (that and about a 55 gallon drum of beer). Keep up the good work in Hawaii. Wish I was there.
Remember the chant? Honey Bears Honey Bears OOOOO aahhh Honey Bears Honey Bears OOOOOO AAAAAHHHHH. When the Bears were losing the Honey Bears were winning.
Don't remember the chant. Definitely remember the Honey Bears.
The most disappointing successful season ever.
+1 Shady.
Well put Shady.
Heart goes out to David Akers' family - but what the hell is he doing attending the pro bowl?
The Bears were never expected to make it as far as they did this year. At first, I was blaming Cutler as well, because it was such an exciting season and it was hard to watch it all go down in flames. Even though the Bears lost, Hanie made it an electrifying ending to a season that may have been a bit ahead of itself. If it weren
Been thinking about the draft, and going hog wild is not the thing to do. There are a few positions that need to be addressed, and I think we can reasonably get away with only drafting a tackle and a center on the OL.
Chris Williams at guard just isn't meant to be, neither is Omelette the answer at LT. Either make Omelette a really expensive bench warmer or deal his ass. Where's that kid Williams that owned Jared Allen one-on-one at the end of 2009? Williams back to LT.
Garza becomes a major liability next season, as does Kreutz - they just don't have the speed for one thing, both are a shadow of their former selves. Time to re-instate Lance Louis and Johan Asiata. The knock on these guys was experience - time to give it to them, have them in there from the start, be bold, don't run Garza and Kreutz into the ground like old jalopies. Address the changing of the guard now, not when it's too late. Louis and Asiata are big, strong maulers who can get down to the second level blocking for us. Do it.
Draft a center really high.
Webb? He's big, yeah. Clearly useful in run-blocking, but he is going to get Cutler killed. Guys ran around Webb all year long. Even when he did get a paw on them, it was either a holding call, or he just ushered them around and into Cutler. Bench until ready, or until the next draft pick is ready ...
Draft a tackle in the second. Somebody solid, who can go straight in at RT if needs be.
We don't need to re-sign Kreutz. History schmistory. Olin is not the Olin of old, and we do not require his services anymore. He can't play on forever so the sooner we make the transition the better for the team. Edwin Williams has played center, but pick number one needs to go on replacing Kreutz - now. Urlacher's replacement next year.
LT - Chris Williams (backup Webb/Shaffer)
LG - Lance Louis (Garza)
C - New Guy 1st rd pick (backup Edwin Williams)
RG - Johan Asiata (Garza)
RT - New Guy 1st rd pick (backup Webb/Shaffer)
Kreutz retires.
Omelette dealt.
Tice gets to work them together in the off-season and they should be firing on all cylinders towards the second-half of the season. We made the playoffs this year with the OL out to lunch for the first half of the season, but we need to remould that line now.
So two picks is all we really need for the OL. Then we can address LB, DL, CB and maybe pick up a power back. CB is an issue, Tim Jennings ain't all that. Corey Graham is likely not a Bear next season. Tillman is 30. Iwuh could be gone too. Asomugha needs to be the big FA signing, not OL. He's looking for a contender, we're looking for him.
Hate to say it Irish, but I think our management will like the progress out O line made and will give us the 'ol "We are pretty much set at the O line possitions". Then they will draft the fastest D lineman available. I like your thinking, but no way we we let Olin go and bench Garza.
Sadly, I think you're closer to what will actually happen, Ender ...
Even if they re-sign Kreutz and start him, his replacement needs to get drafted now.
Butkus (allegedly, who knows ...) on the Cutler thing :
Overheard: "Times have changed since I played.
So Center in the first round, right?
Pouncey or Wisniewski ?
What happens if Gabe Carimi drops to us? Isn't he another Jamarcus Webb clone?
What if Ryan Kerrigan or J.J. Watt falls that far at DE?
Anyone in favor of moving up for Stephen Paea at DT? Then going C/G in rd 2 and 3 ...?
No to Pouncey at center. He sucked there in fl. He would be a great guard. If a quality dt or de falls to us. Expect that to be our first pick.
...Your team has just survived an injury riddled season, was gifted the last wildcard slot by a team who didn't play very hard, then were handed the NFC Championship, and are now going to the super bowl!!!!
What are you going to do Packer Fans?
We're going to spend an hour searching for Chicago Bears Blogs to go post really funny and gloating comments on!!! Heeeee heeeeee heeeee
Jesus Christ... SMH
...or if you prefer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fRe5bHTR4
it will be 20 years till the bears make it back to the playoffs!!!!!
Maaaaauuuuuhhhhh Maaaaauuuuuhhhhh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UIO2dAGjgE
god you're a douchbag
go packers!!!!!
Dude! You're like 121! And you still bang your sister?! Wow, talk about skeletons in the closet ...
Give a woman everything, and it won't be enough.
Hmmm. Have you ever?
Give a coach a handjob...
Excellent.
BOOOOOOM: "Finding gems in later rounds builds mediocre teams, landing pro-bowlers in the first 3 rounds builds championships."
+1
We don't mind you being redundant, '85.
We're just SURPRISED you know what redundant means!
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JUST kidding!
Good One!
Aikman? Divorce? Please tell me that was just a way to use the Rogers joke. I'd hate for this place to turn into Da E blog.
She mustn't be into dickheads.
My drill instructor called us girls when our knee's started to get weak on our 25 mile forced march's MB. A questionable term of endearment among men MB.
I get it trac, I really didn't take offense at all... I just don't get the jerry thing... but I think you know that by now.
You and I are good man. I got's no issues, just want the brotherhood to all get along.
I guess when you think about it, we're kinda on a forced march of our own. Yuk, yuk.
Chauvinist endearment. Forced march < childbirth.
I meant another 2009 INJURY type year... to clarify.
u asshole... LOL
Oh god, did I just get the Doc curse? Fuck.
btw, I was going to use "incur" but I think get (like a disease) is much more a-pro's-pro here.
I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahahahaha
Some GP predictions that won't make me any friends:
Peppers wanted to play well in the first year of his mega contract, and play well he did. But the Carolina knock on him is not unfounded. He vanished in the regular season game against the Seahawks. His playoff play was good, but not Reggie White dominating.
He will probably taper off in performance. He has all the money he needs for the rest of his life, and the contract was quite heavily front loaded, so he's paid. Will he go Haynesworth on us? Probably not. He will start to play down to Alex Brown levels, which is to say he will make good things happen, just not all the time and not against great tackles.
Every one of you at the end of next year's pre-season will be calling for Chris Harris' firing. Write it down. Jan 28, 2011 today. I'll catch back up with everyone on Labor Day 2011 on that one...
If the Bears struggle in the pre-season this year, Gayle Sayers will be there to say something shitty about the organization. Book it.
I honestly don't know about Martz. I want him to stay, because the offense is fun. It may not always win, but it does move the ball. His internal fued with Tice may mean somebody has to go, however, and in that case, I'd keep Tice.
That's all I got, that should be worth a few rotten tomatoes headed my way soon...
I'm with you on Harris GP, BUT... I wouldn't cut him lose, we just need a real starting (read: Fast, good angles, scary tackler, great in pass coverage, leader) back there to start. I LOVE ryan grant (steelers), wonder if he wants to switch? Anyway, Harris is a very good RUN down STRONG saftey. We need a real FS and harris can back up when needed.
I hate to say it, but fuck GS. Shut up dude.
I'm kind of with you on martz too. I just don't get the non-sequitor games where he goes off the reservation and what's been working. Evidence item #1 week 16 game against GB. Matty was TEARING them fucking up in the first half. Then we just stop fucking running? I was like, dude, wtf are you doing? 5-10 yards a pop and you stop running?
Then he comes out the next week and says 'hey, sorry, that's on me... so sorry. We should have and could have won with a more sound game plan (Read: equal run/pass that's PROVEN to win us games). He did that like what, 3 times this year (SEA, WASH, GB #2)? I'm totally down with keeping him, but Lovie needs to basically tell the guy that if his run/pass totals aren't equal every week he'll get fired.
Since everyone gets the stuff off of their chest. Lets quit the ball sack jokes. Theres a couple of us old guys battling gravity here! I got up in the middle of the night last night and ended up dunking those bastards! I was traumatized and I'd like the ball sack references stopped. Thank You!.............LMAO
Tea-bagged the toilet water, did ya?
You can get a special toilet seat for that...
Some sort of cloth hammock strategically placed? Lambskin?
hahhahaha thats to funny
Still Laughing over Murphs teabagging of the toilet. DUNK N DONUTS!
Thanks Fres. I also noticed the water is colder in the middle of the night! big #16 LOL
They are getting ready to close the street in front of my hotel for some pre pro bowl game activities. Cheer leaders and players will be around. Im going to get pictures of this and of the game, I will post them on a web site for anyone thats interested. They had a bunch of cheer leaders at the Hilton Wednesday night but I didn't have a camera handy. I don't know what they did in Miami last year, but Hawaii really goes all out for this.
Looking forward to the pics, Murph. Be careful of high tide tonight when you hit the stool.
+1 Canada
GO BEARS. Nothing else to say.
Imagine how the toilet water felt.
"Oh great, this guy, he actually makes me taste his balls while he pisses on me.
You truly have a great mind Doc. I heist them out before I piss. Usually the cold water sets them into a "self retracting" mode!
Well played, Doc.
Murph, are you sure it wasn't that dog in your avatar that was licking your lambskin and not the water in the toilet?
too funny trac....hahaha
I agree with you on Martz. He's like a guy who learns the wrong lessons from Sun Tsu's art of war. For him, misdirection is everything.
I think he's still burned from Bellicheat taking his Rams team to task in the Super Bowl, so now he just wants to do what everybody thinks he won't do. He's like a random number generator with lots of entropy.
Too bad we can't cut Sayers.
hee hee
Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
Can't stand it anymore. We're watching the Big Lebowski tonight. It's been to long.
Nice.
"Nobody fucks with the Jesus ..."
I almost named my son Jesus, JUST to use that line... for the rest of his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-IterwA_-E
My wife wasn't amused, but that has to be one of the best scenes EVER filmed.
btw, how money was Sam Elliot as the narrator. Damn the cohen bros are insanely creative and good.
Good jewish boys Trac.
..."Say friend, got any more that Sasparilla?"
"Beef. It's what's fer dinner."
Sam Elliot. What a set of pipes.
And married to Katherine Ross?
Paint me green with envy.
That movie never ceases to crack me up. And I'm the kind of person who thinks things are funny but doesn't laugh out loud too often. It has to be really funny. Like Kat Williams Stand up comedy funny. I laugh out loud all the way through the Big Lebowski.
Jon Goodman's character, Walter, is my favorite, other than the Dude himself. He's so perfect for that role. "Shamus Shabas!" ..."I don't drive on the Shabas, I don't talk on the phone on Shabas, and I sure as hell don't fucking roll!" "Shut the fuck up Donnie, you'r out of your element"...."This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the Ass!"....
And Jeff Bridges as the dude is the perfect old stoner dude. He doesn't overdo it. He just trails off a lot and nails the role perfectly.
All the characters are so perfect. The Jesus, Donnie, Philip Seymour Hoffman's character, the Nihilists, Sam Elliot. Just a perfect fucking movie. Great soundtrack too.
Seriously, if anybody on this board has not seen this movie, you aint seen shit.
And yes, The Coen brothers are insanely good. Every movie is very entertaining, if not great. Fargo, No Country for Old Men, Oh Brother Where Art Thou, Burn After Reading, and the ultimate Cult Classic, The Big Lebowski. Just great fucking stuff.
By the way, I mentioned it above but, if any o you has not Kat Williams do stand up comedy, you must do this now. See "The Pimp Chronicles Vol I". Guy is the best stand up since Chris Rock. Seriously funny and mostly positive dude.
1) Stand Up Comedy -
The Best: Doug Stanhope. Check "No Refunds". If Bill Hicks were alive, he would be proud.
Consistently Good: Louis CK - Every single stand up he does is good.
Up and Coming Dark Horse: Anthony (motherfucking) Jeselnik. This guy changed my life. His album "Shakespeare" just came out... Download that shit, legally or otherwise. But definitely worth the $10 on iTunes.
Coen Brothers:
Raising Arizona - Fucking incredible.
Hudsucker Proxy - Fully unappreciated. If you haven't, then go have at it.
Burn After Reading? Is that shit any good? I saw it once, and have no urge to see it again... Maybe it's better the second time around.
O Brother Where Art Thou is my favorite. I can watch it again and again.
Scene that makes that movie, and defines the Co Bros style...
The 'dildo machine' in the basement scene. Holy shit!!!!
btw, not a co-bro film, but see The Men Who Stare at Goats if you haven't. Brilliant.
Man, I used to think Clooney was a full on douch, but I really like him now that he's stopped doing totally gay movies with Jlo.
Clooney rocks. Up in the air. Welcome to Collinwood. Confessions of a dangerous mind. Good night and good luck. Syriana. Michael Clayton. He's even good in The American - a movie where nothing happens. Writes, directs and saves the world!
George Clooney: Yummy.
Just checking out Stanhope now - he's on Sacred Cow.... Bill Hicks' label. Burn after reading is the least brilliant of all their movies, they can't make a bad movie.
Raising Arizona was my favorite...
Um, if there's a lockout, going forward will be following and discussing the Chicago Rush in the Arena Football League or the Chicago Bliss in the Lingerie Football League?
Take it from me, you can add the new TRUE GRIT to that Coen list.
Hailee Steinfeld being nominated in the Best Supporting Actress Category was a complete joke. She was in every single scene bar the last and the academy was afraid of a thirteen year old - who acted the pants of every other female this year - walking off with the Oscar. They were hoo-rahed by a little girl! Makes a mockery of the Oscars. Bridges deserves to win it twice in a row - but will they let him? Colin Firth was nothing special in The King's Speech. Best Actor/Actress/Adap.Scrnplay/Film/Direction.
Apparently the argument now is that Cutler doesn't have "Heart" cause he didn't fucking high five Caleb on the sidelines.
"Because nowhere in the symptoms of Grade II MCL tear does it include the inability to high-five a young QB who threw a TD pass to get your team back in the game"
Are. You. Fucking. Serious.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/other_nfl/view/20110129bears_jay_cutler_was_hurt_by_lack_of_character/srvc=home&position=recent
I believe he is the inspiration for the term "pederass".
Dude, Crown. I know you're a fucking DJ in your spare time/alter ego, so here you go: http://www.hoerboard.com/products/scomber-mix/http://www.hoerboard.com/products/scomber-mix/
Or maybe Jack....
My little dog's has a total wussy name (it was 4.5 when we got her). I always call her Duder.
That's what I am worried about, Peppers and Harris losing a step or not playing up to standards. Where does everyone read Tice and Martz arguing?
Hub Arkish says it every time his show is on the Score. He keeps bringing it up, so he must know of its significance more than we do...
Could be but Hub also has an axe to grind against the Bears for dumping from the radio crew.
I think the actual reason was "How DARE you be truthful!"
Not from me. I said that when we were signing him. His lazy reputation was well known. No tomatoes left GP, I took em all on in the off season.
With you on Pep. It's in the post guaranteed. He disappeared towards the end of the season and wasn't really a factor in the playoffs, or at least the whole line wasn't.
I wasn't up for Chris Harris' hiring, so that's a moot point with me. We got hosed in that deal. Waith three or four days and he was on waivers.
I don't care for Martz - he doesn't see the wood for the trees.
I'm not sure we would've had a realistic shot at him if he was on waivers.
Angelo clearly sucks, a stellar draft this year with 7 starters would merely be some slight redress for all the others he frakked up. He's the grandmother you don't like. Nothing you can do about it.
Cromagnon attempts to use Twitter to be the NFL's biggest doucebag since Jerry Glanville.
http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2011/01/antonio_cromartie_still_speaki.html
fuck... that dude's a decent corner, but he's a fucking moron.
7 kids from 6 moms in 5 states... really dude? Never mind CBA... do you know what a fucking condom is?
He doesn't even know all his kids names; prophylactics are way over his pay grade.
My name is antonio and I don't pull out, ever
pull out?
I'll take issue with you on the "decent corner" comment too.
He's a match waiting to get lit up.
maybe, but dude's an themlete.
say wha?
Not going to argue with you guys but I'm sort of shocked anyone would stick up for JA. Look at his picks from rounds 1-3 every year. Noticeable lack of studs.
Canada, I'm looking at the results this year and I'm defending Jerry's recent work, nothing more. It's a new ball game and all I'm saying is that Jerry is part of the Machine that's starting to look like it has a lot of promise. Jerry is an easy target, I'll give you that. I'm saying, lets see this thing run its course before we throw in the towel on JA's upcoming moves.
Ill give him this, He had one good Offseason and thats it. 1 compared to 5? not very good ratio.
he did?
Word. We'll know in about two years how his off-season went.
I'm reasonably happy with this year except the OL. That was a real issue last year and nothing was done about it (other than a 7th round pick).
Exactly. Trac, Angelo didn't have much to do with this year. It was a whole lot of injury luck and some great bounces our way. I'm not just talking about the calvin johnson bullshit bounces or the injuries to other team's starters almost every weak... that shit is football, welcome to our 2009.
I'm mostly talking about that fact that no one else wanted to be our OC or DC... and thank goodness gracious, because those gents (with tice) thrown in with a little organizational desperation at the top got us this year. (and of course the health and spirit of the players)
NOT anything JA did. If anything, by not addressing the line for 3 years, the blame for losing that last game COULD be placed on him. i.e., if cutty had better protection he wouldn't have gotten hit so much. I know that's a gross oversimplification of why we lost that game (a slow d start and ridiculous specials field position really doomed us), but if the line was at least average and not sheite most of the year, how would things have gone?
GM's and football operations guys are sometimes too close to the personnel problems teams have MB. Lets face is, a lot of us thought Cutty was the final piece we needed to get to the Big Dance the year before last. We aren't talking about a huge amount of time between the end of that season and this one.
Did anyone think that? Really? There were people happy with our o-line, secondary & receivers?
Hester definitely was a huge question mark at WR on the Blog but almost all of us were pretty certain that injuries to Brownie, Urlacher, Dusty, Harris and others were to blame. That and Turners bad playcalling. Our D spent so much time on the field that they were never able to catch their breath.
If we'd had a rash of injuries this year, Angelo would already be gone.
Even money the SEVENTH kid is by the FIRST Mom and Cro' just forgot he'd already knocked her up after he did the next 5.
I think he has 9 kids from 7 different moms. He's a more(man whore)
Shouldn't that be "mhore" ?
I had the Cromartie thing opened on one tab, the elephantine scrotum on another, but it all kinda merged into one ...
At least get him in space where he excelled with the Vikings - the guy is just as shifty as Matt.
I know it's the Madden talking but I'd love to see us running more two-back sets with both in, three-step drop and flare both backs. Who is GB going to use to cover them? They only have one LB that's decent in coverage and both guys can run over corners.
Ed Zachary
Rush?
Sorry, MB, I couldn't resist.
Yes, MBP, I'm in a rush... to get back to the SB... in a rush to have a dynasty.
I'm in a fucking rush!
worst comment of all time the other day on the Score:
"No team can win if your running back has 10 catches for 90 yards."
I called in just to tell the screener that it was the dumbest fucking comment i'd ever heard on radio or tv. What do you mean you can't win if you throw to your awesome pass catching running back for 90 yards on 10 catches. If a receiver had those numbers it would be great. why is it less great that our running back did it? does it make it any less meaningful? did it not move the chains? Did it not keep the D honest? Brutal what some of these talking heads come up with. Forte should be catching 10 passes per game at the minimum.
+1
Nobody had a problem when Faulk did it. Oh yeah, and didn't THEY win something once?
49ers and Roger Craig?
Great thread Jeff. I totally agree with all you said. I'm confident both Jerry and Lovie will get extensions. No point on kickinig a dead horse on my end.
So...Who if anyone will be left once the Bears get their first pick in regards to the Offensive line spots? Anyone care to take a guess? I mean, unless the Bears trade for a better pick in the draft how are we going to get any caliber linemen? Will we have to rely on FA totally? This is my first concern. Aren't we better off trying to get a experienced lineman out of FA instead of picking up a rookie who may need at least a year to be have starter potential? Also, would it be bad to try and get a #1 WR FIRST before o-line?
Liked the post, Jefe. I may be alone in this, but I'm not sold on Hanie yet. He had one decent half against a defense that seemed to have gone to sleep after Collins went in. Maybe Collins's quick three and outs helped cool the defense down for Hanie. I don't know. The kid's got upside, I'm just not sure how much. And it can't be stubbornness alone that let Martz to put Hanie behind Collins on the depth chart. There was no mistaking how bad Collins was. Maybe Hanie just didn't get the system. I don't know. But it can't be pure stubbornness, can it?
I promise it was because there is no tape on him. Hell, Cutler couldn't beat the pats and Mccoy did. No tape on Mccoy.
Get back to your cave and get studying Erik!
Did you say a Moebius strip of conversation or a Mabuse (Dr. Mabuse) strip of conversation?
Jack is Gary Busey
Fucking love gary busey man.
Did you see that fabulous bastard in Point Break?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYi0a8ZpNBk
Oh, and this of course. Man that guy has some choppers: http://www.craigandsam.com/Images/Busey.jpg
Kid came in to an NFC champ title game having thrown 8 passes in the NFL. In between interceptions he did really well under pressure of the highest order. Given the number of snaps he's had, he looked really good against a top defense.
By that logic, Chris Williams is a great NFL tackle based on his performance against Jared Allen in one game last year.
Good point, Doc.
What the hell ever happened to THAT Chris Williams?
To all you girls still crying because Jerry's still on board, let me just say this. It is unreasonable to think that a GM can plug all the holes we had in one off season. I happen to think that what Jerry did by signing Peppers and Harris has turned out to be very shrewd. He shored up the Defense without doing what our politicians haven't yet seemed to figure out. He picked an area of the team to overhaul(the defense) and he did it effectively without causing long term damage by mortgaging our future draft picks in a year that had very few FA signings. Unga was 2nd or 3rd round value and he only cost us a 7th round pick. I believe the Bears accomplished waaaay more than was reasonably expected of this year and to ignore this fact by continuing to hold onto last years battle cry is just pure D posturing. It is an ignorant argument to suggest that Jerry didn't produce viable results from last years recent off season moves. I don't know, maybe some of you guys stamped your feet and got a Mercedes Benz for your 16th Birthday and a never ending well endowed trust fund when you graduated high school but that's not how it works in the NFL. You have to build a team piece by piece, and you have to be patient while doing it. Patience gents, patience.
My arguments during the year were valid while I was making them but given what the Bears were able to accomplish, they just don't hold water any more. The Bears just lost a winnable Championship game and in my opinion, the future will be brighter next year. I think it's a reasonable argument to make that the Bears are in a better position by choosing not to fill their O line holes than if they had last spring. To me, I think the risk Jerry took by trying to work with what we had was worth it. I think the Bears will actually be stronger by the time opening day rolls around next season than if they had of settled for mediocre fixes by trading this years draft picks which is what they would have had to do. Settle down girls, the ship will not sink.
I can't read your rambling comments anymore Trac. You change your mind every other day. Cunt hair? That's blasphemy you bitter man. You're just as bad as the guy that has to sit on his balls all day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4RGqhrZA7E
Since when did opinions become so personal?
You arent kidding Artoo.
I hate it when mom and dad fight.
Sorry guys. Just expressing my honest opinion. It gets annoying reading flip flopping comments with such angry societal overtones.
I'm mad at Trac. I'm post-op damn it. You can't call me a girl anymore.
I wasn't aware being a girl was such a bad thing...hmmm. Post-op Jab? congrats!!!! lol.
Nor was I. In fact, I *like* girls.
What's funny to me is this is one of the first times I can remember that Trac and I are on pretty much the same page.
The Bears front office...bringing fans together?
What.
The.
Fudgecicles.
You write your story line Crown, I'll write mine.
Everyone is still a little keyed up from the playoffs...we'll be hugging and talking politics in no time.
Oh, politics didn't work out so well?
OK, maybe just hugs.
religion?
I say we give it a shot. What's the worst...
what's that? Oh. Uhm. Alright.
How about college majors?
COLLEGE MAJORS?!?!?
YOOOOOUUUU MOTHERFUCKER!!!!
You've both gone to far. smh.
Stop MB!
Yeah MB, hold it RIGHT THERE.
"...the opiate of the masses."
Since I believe I am the only girl on here, I will say I am not crying about Angelo. Rather, I think of him as a part of life that is unavoidable, like death or taxes. No way he's going anywhere, so that is a moot point if there ever was one.
Taxes are avoidable, so long as you're will to accept the death part a little early.
Surely it should be "No team can lose if your running back has 10 catches for 90 yards."
9 yards a pop is nothing sneeze at.
*Maybe* as shifty, but not as fast. Forte can fly - he just doesn't look like it. Matt does not get caught from behind often. Seriously.
I would agree with that.
Neither one of them is a great between the tackles runner - although you really have to wonder how they would look if Logan Mankins was run blocking for them instead of Chris Williams...at least I do.
Forte and Taylor are the same guy - we need a power back, specially if they're sticking with Eddie Williams.
Chester's deal was front loaded so they won't be paying him too much next season. I think he'll be given the chance again.
i will send Martz a text.
Mike, this is Johnny Waffle, fucking throw Chester Taylor some screens and short dump off passes so he can run for 25 fucking yards. thanks!
Martz- But I like seeing Jay toss up balls to see who will catch it, its so EXCITING!
U guys are rolling today, but Man I am not looking forward to this long off season. The same threads for a week, 0ver 800 comments, shit man!
Omiyale isn't the guy letting pressure up the gut and leaving no room for our QB to step up or escape edge pressure.
Cutting him would be really, really stupid.
Cutting Chris Williams, on the other hand, is looking like a reasonable proposition if he hasn't turned it on by week #4.
We have GOT to draft a replacement for Kreutz this year. Even if old man river sticks around for two years, they need to be grooming someone to run that OL now.
I am excited to see how Woot Woot develops. I'd like to see us get another top-shelf DT.
Receiver should be obtained via free agency; no more rookies.
McGee is the heir-in-waiting at punter. I expect him to take it over in preseason for good.
I saw the Kreutz-Garza wall get blown up and pushed back more this yera than C.Williams. I think 74 can be servicable at guard given he now has a year under his belt at that position.
Izzy fell off a bit at the end of the year. I would like to see an honset competition between him and Woot the Favre ender.
Fair enough - either way, it's the interior of the OL that scares me.
I'd say C-dub tended to just whiff on blocks, not get shoved into Jay.
Kreutz is done. Has been for a couple years. How many times did ya'll see him clapping is hands in disgust for blocks he missed or got owned on this year? Too many.
Ya, he has been a warrior and I appreciate him the way I appreciated McMichael. But we're pushing on a rope with Olin.
Good job, Max. I always wondered how they got the "fans" for the entertainment. Hope you stand out!
Can't say the Goo Goo Dolls are my favorite band but it could be a lot worse. It could be some Goat-Roping, Country Crap. My least favorite music genre. Don't mind the hardcore Country but almost all of the shit in the last 20 years is pop music with a phony twang going for the lowest common denominator (love mom, god, country).
Awesome Max. I hope you pull it off. See how I did that?
I'm glad you point some of that shit out Doc. I read a lot in the morning and being a little dull from sleep, I'd be prone to miss that one without your assistance.
I do it more for a shout out to MB. One of many traditions he's started.
Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
(see how I did that)
Oh I'll have the camera zooming in on Max at the beginning of the game. Pictures to be posted nest week. Bear Down Max, Ill be looking for you from the south end zone...in da shade.
Max your a writer at Bleacherreport.com? You use to be an everyday regular, is that where u been hiding out lately or what?
represent that shit Max
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/In-his-second-pro-MMA-fight-Herschel-Walker-whi?urn=mma-314174
holy shit, he's fucking 48yrs old. jacked out of his mind.
saw that Johnny... amazing what insane genetics coupled with a modicum of HGH and some Winstrol will do for a guy.
Kudos to him.
Go 'roids!!
saw that fight too. Herschel beat the shit outta dude.
Did you guys know that a few of our starters are on TV doing commercials already?
Tommy Harris & Chris Harris: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMkJ87uMBU
Cutty (blue plaid): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl_p3gnlizw&feature=related
Nah. The way that guy forced his way into that party? Tommy could never do that. Though he was unusually paranoid and prone to conclude the fault lay elsewhere...
Jerry was flying the hovercraft!
Nice MBP. Jerry isn't that skilled (unfortunately)
Just got back from the game. Didnt see Max do the jersey thing. One stage was slightly obscured but my son watched and didnt catch anything either. Game was o.k. enough. Got some good pics at first but had to put the camera away after the drunk and rowdy polynesian fuck spilled his beer on me. Took a long halftime and then crashed some different seats. Left the game right when the fan runners hit the field, probably a highlight of the game. NFC owned the AFC in the first half and interest waned after that.Beer was $10 a cup but the selection was good. Ill do some editing and get some pics up this week. I did get good pics of every cheerleader as she was introduced. Long plane ride back to Chicago tomorrow and blizzard heading in shortly after my scheduled arrival. Later! Draft well, and Bear Down!
Colostomy bags full of beer would appear to be a serviceable workaround there, no ?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/31/teammates-wouldnt-go-to-bat-for-roethlisberger-with-goodell/
And yet another reason why Goodell is horrible. Why would you ever let something like that out to the press.
Never mind the fact that this team is playing in the Superbowl next week. Those are players that did nothing wrong and were put in a position where they had to be candid with the head of the league. What does Goodell do? Oh, I'll just tell Peter King all the nasty things they said about their team-mate, that'll really help the rehabilitation process.
I hope it turns out he did something terrible in his personal life (like Eliot Spitzer or some such) and the whole world gets to hear about it and lambastes him in the press for a few months. Jerk.
Spitzer's crime was trying to stick it up Ashley Dupree's bum with his black socks still on, sans condom. And with a wife at home, who admits she's kinda frigid.
You are an attorney. I assume you made through criminal law. On the chart, that one just doesn't scream out 'terrible'.
Spitzer was the top cop in NY and then the governor and the whole time he was breaking the law because he felt he was above it. that is some bullshit.
It was only against the law in NY.
In Nevada, it's legal.
I kind of have a problem with laws that are federalist, don't you?
I know you guys dont want to draft a reciever, but I gotta keep pluggin this kid out of my SDSU Aztec program. I have mentioned the name before, but Vincent Brown could immediately step in and make a big impact on this team. SDSU had the most underrated reciever duo in college football between Brown and DeMarco Sampson. Brown has maybe the best hands in the draft and a burst to be DBs off the line.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=238332
I agree entirely. Johnny Knox is responsible for over 50% of the interceptions this year, with under 20% of the looks, must have a receiver who can beat defenders, don't know about your guys though. As I look at using my draft pick this year I'd pick up an Oline man with an explosive burst that is huge and strong as heck. Mix those three to find the right person, if they don't go to the combine they don't get picked, The best hit in this whole year was when speedy Jay blocked for Forte and drilled an O-lineman on a play in the championship. I got up out of my chair literally and cheered. Then he got injured 1 or two plays after that.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlYI9b88FXQuKzMuTy.sFVxDubYF?slug=ap-obit-timmccaskey
RIP Tim McCaskey, Welcome home and say hi to Papa, Sweetness and Brian Piccolo for us. BEAR DOWN!
Wow, so I go away for a couple days, and Da Blog has turned into a movie review page, a place to cry for nonexistant (yay) cheerleaders (the drumline is much better), and a support group for those with saggy balls. See how I did that?
New thread Jeff please!
Wow, talk about debbie downer. Must be a mundee.
You'll find out in the offseason that these types of discussions are the only thing that keeps us afloat... and the reason being a 'regular' holds value (in my mind at least). The core group here talk about a lot more than football when there's not much football to talk about.
Nah. Just joking. It cracked me up, actually.
You did see how I did that though, right MB????
Next time we will add saggy breasts to the discussion, and maybe chippendale cheerleaders for you too!
Happily, saggy breasts do not see much toilet water, a fact that makes me retain hope.....
I will pass on the chippendales - just get me Larry Fitzgerald and all will be right with the world.
I just realized something, isn't the loser of the Conference championship supposed to coach the probowl? Why was it Belichick and Mike Smith instead of Rex and Lovie?
They must have went to hightest ranked divisional losers since the game got moved to pre superbowl.
That would be correct.
And we care about that because....?
I'd say Irish is correct that drafting our favorite Center is the best way to spend a bottom third first round pick.
I tend to agree with Jeff's assessment except that our Defensive Line was only oustanding on the outside. We have talent at tackle, but would benefit from depth at the position as well as a real monster if one came available. I would not begrudge a DT pick high in the draft to build on one of our team's real strengths.
I am ranking my draft needs based on position only, not on players that may be available. Given two players of equal talent (which doesn't exist in real life) I would pick by position in the following order.
LT
C
CB
WR
FS
RT
DT
G
FB
LB
RB
P
QB
SS
RB
TE
DE
I realize after I make this list that it changes a bit depending on the round. I would be willing to spend a 3rd or 4th rounder on a solid full-back who can block for Cutler and Forte and get short yardage carries, but not our #1 (I'd rather trade up or down if we can't get value there).
Even though I made LT my #1, I doubt we'll be seeing a quality option where we are at in the draft. But there is a good chance that we could be the first to pick up a center, and if that happens I think the decision is an easy one.
Yea, but like Coach said, Harris does have an athletic sack.