Conversations in Chicago

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One of the things I've deeply enjoyed about the success of this silly little blog is that it has made me exponentially more interesting to the day-to-day folks I meet in and around Chicago on my visits each year.  (I should add, to be fair, saying you work for the Tribune is not always met with enthusiastic applause.)  To prove the point, last night a lovely couple named Bob & Carol (& Ted & Alice) took time out from their Pizano's pizza (the best I've had in the city) and told me in rich detail their story of attending Ron Santo's wake.  They told me of the hundreds lined up on a frigid, snowy evening.  They told me of tears in the eyes of folks who never met the man.  They told me of the kind of dedication and passion that has caused me over the years to adopt Chicago as not only my beloved sports city but my second home. 

I didn't start the conversation with Bob.  My scarf did.  In early 2007, as the Super Bowl approached, my friend Kathleen knitted me an orange scarf that I believe she intended to be worn by a giraffe.  If stretched out to its full length, it could wrap entirely around that silly bean in Millennium Park.  Bob didn't initially tell me he'd recently suffered a stroke but I could tell by the sound of his voice and the movements of his mouth that he had.  I could tell speaking was not easy for him, physically or emotionally.  He asked anyway, "Are you a Bears fan?"

"How did you know that?" I asked, knowing my Bears gloves were hidden away in the inside pocket of the brown writer's coat I bought because I'd seen Arthur Miller wearing a similar one in a photograph of him and Marilyn Monroe. 

"Your scarf is orange."

And so began two hours of intermittent dialogue between myself and the lovely Bob & Carol - who coincidentally (though I've stopped believing in coincidence) have two children currently living in Hoboken, NJ.  It was only 'intermittent' because a Pizano's pizza is not something you can devour while speaking and for the sake of politeness we refrained from spitting bits of onions and sausage on each other.  We talked Lovie Smith and Jerry Angelo.  We talked the Cubs and Sox adding the two best lefty power hitters on the market in Carlos Pena and Adam Dunn.  We talked about a Bulls team with a tremendous future and a Blackhawks team with a thrilling past.  (I stayed mostly silent during the hockey bits.)

But then the conversation changed.  
"I had a stroke recently," Bob said as I noticed Carol deliberately turn her head away from the conversation.  Bob had told me he was seventy-two years old and couples that age tend to refrain from revealing too much to complete strangers.  I guess it took an hour for me to cross the stranger threshold into the land of the now-interesting dinner companion.  Carol would speak quite loudly to me throughout the night but would lean in to Bob and whisper things like "Don't have another whiskey.  Have a beer" and "I'm worried you're eating so much cheese."  Carol was a sweet woman, concerned for the health of the man she adored, but she was a terrible whisperer.  Everyone in the joint could hear what she was saying.

"I'm sorry to hear that.  My grandfather had a stroke a few years ago."  This was a lie.  A stupid, unnecessary lie.  I guess I wanted this guy to realize I was comfortable with his voice.  Comfortable with his situation.  Comfortable with him.  I'm glad he didn't ask a follow up to my lie because I had no interest in inventing anything else.

"But I have to say, " he continued.  "when I couldn't speak for months, I don't know what I would have done without sports.  When I woke up I read the sports writers and every night I watched the Cubs and I was talking in my head to both of them.  I'm glad to see someone your age will keep things going."  Any one of the thousands of young folks who have taken the craft of sportswriting to the internet could have been sitting on that stool.  Any one of the thousands of us who believe sports are more than gossip-mongering and pop culture references.  But it was me sitting next to Bob.  And I sure was glad.

I finished my Old Style, asked the bartender to wrap up my last slab of Rudy's Special (no mushrooms) and started the half-hour process of wrapping the extra long scarf around my neck.  Carol handed me a bar napkin and a pen and asked if I would write down my name for her.  "Would you like me email?"

"We don't have a computer.  Well we did but it broke."

I smiled.  A big, old smile.  I'd be nothing without computers but sometimes it makes me happy when people don't have one.  I wrote down my name and my email anyway.  Then I wrote down the name of a hot dog place in Clifton, NJ called Rutt's Hut - the greatest on the planet - and told Bob and Carol to send their kids there.  I shook hands with them both and turned to leave.  "Wow.  This was some night," Bob said.  He meant it.  And in that second I realized he was right.   It was some night. 

I canceled my plan to head up State to Rossi's and went back to my hotel.  It would be unfair to pressure a bar to try and top that.  Why would I want to?  I walked the blisteringly cold block and a half, only one thought in my mind.  How can you beat Chicago?   

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  • Let me be the FIRST to say you cannot beat Chicago. I live that reality every day.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    ...and that was a great story, Jeff. Enjoy the Mag Mile and all the lights!!

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Great post, Jeff!

  • In reply to sjvl:

    great post Jeff

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Great story - worthy of a Superbowl city. And not the 30-year variety.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Yeah, that would be amazing. I know it would have sucked for taxpayers but having the olympics here would have been bas ass as well.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Agree on the taxpayer part, but it would have been really cool having one of the proposed Olympic Marathon routes go right past my parents house.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    I have to say this story makes me want to come back to Chicago for a visit real soon. As a displaced Bear's fan living in Ohio I take every opportunity I get, like Bob in your story, to greet people I see wearing Bears gear. During football season I try to wear my own gear on the weekends to attract the same kind of camaraderie. I have been many places in the world and found Bears fans (Ohio, LA, South Korea), and the more it happens the more I really appreciate virtual places like Da' Bears Blog where I can recreate those experiences.
    I've done my share of converting lost souls in search of a football team to root for as well. In 2001, when my brother lived in Cicero, he was clinging to the remains of his childhood love for the Redskins. I'll never forget coming home to the blinking light on my answering machine only to press play and hear my brother utter in feigned disgust and resignation "I'm converted. I'm a Bears fan." In September of 2006 I took my second honeymoon with my wife (we got married that year in July) to Soldier field to see the Bears demolish the Lions en route to the Super Bowl and she has never looked back on the Dolphins she once half-heartedly followed.
    Thanks again Jeff. That story warmed the cockles of my heart today.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    hehe, hehe, he said "cockle"

  • In reply to buckbear:

    When my daughter was little, she liked the Dolphins.
    She outgrew that phase now proudly wears the Orange and Navy.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The apartment that Jake & Elwood visted the old Nun THE BLUES BROTHERS is in Cicero.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Jeff, are you going to offer your readers a chance to toss back a few cold ones with you before/during/after the game, or do you prefer to stroll the streets of Chicago in anonymity?

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    I'll put a location on the game thread tomorrow, which will be up all day.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    My twins won't know about any other team for the first eighteen years or so.

    "Who are the Bears playing daddy?"
    "It's not important sweetheart ... oh OH! ... see that! ...that's called a clothesline baby ... but that Packer fuck deserved it."
    "What's a Packer fuck?"
    ""

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Thanks to GP - C2E2 Terrific show.

    Jeff's post reminds me of Mike Royko. Just excellent writing.

    Matt please do not reinforce the general disrespect our culture has for the elderly. It is profoundly tragic that so many people today carry what's left of their brains in the palm of their hand. Wonder if some are buried with their electronics in the casket just in case.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    I wasn't making a negative comment about the elderly. What part of my comment "reinforced the general disrespect our culture has for the elderly"?

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    That was some Mike Royko style writing. That was a great story. It's amazing how much you learn about history in all forms talking to elderly people.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    But, what would Slats Grobnik say?

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Wonderful post man. Sometimes hell you NEVER can beat CONVERSATION. Face to face interaction..........kudos.......

    flo

  • In reply to sjvl:

    excellent post. and you can't beat Chi-Town...no way, no how.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Ugh. I'm all homesick now. :(

  • In reply to sjvl:

    +x to both sentiments!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Nice read Jeff.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Excellent post, Jeff.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    +1, Blogfather.

  • Never been, Doc? Yet a rabid fan. Impressive.

    Greatest place on earth, IMO.

  • You rock.

    I missed 2006, but I was living it in a big way in 1985. I WILL get back there...

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Right on about the Bears vs Packers Doc. No better rivalry in sports in my mind. I e-mailed all my Packer friends on Tuesday giving them shit about the 61-7 game. One friend replied it was his first game ever, and him and his Dad were probably the only Packers fans there at the end of the game. Another admitted to crying like a baby that day.

  • Nice post, Jeff.

    I recently went on a visit to Hong Kong (and then over to mainland China) for work. I was served the swill the Chinese take for beer for one too many days and had to do a search when I was back in Hong Kong for "German beer Hong Kong tsim sha tsui". There was a place just around the corner from where I was staying (incidentally, if you are ever going to Hong Kong, the Mira Hotel is nice and there is a biergarden here: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g294217-d1142378-Reviews-Biergarten_German_Bar_Restaurant-Hong_Kong_Hong_Kong_Region.html )

    In any case, I talked up the bartender and it turns out everyone there is actually from Napal. After awhile, a couple from England named Bob and Carol (and I'm totally not joking about the names) comes in to get their fill of soccer (it was 8 pm or so and their 3pm game was starting).

    We chatted for about 4 hours and I got absolutely shitfaced talking about all kinds of whack stuff. I tend towards politics a little bit especially when running into british folks since they are generally more informed than most folks in the US.

    In any case, I'm completely feel you, but Chicago isn't the only place on earth where people can meet others. The fact that I was halfway around the world (literally) in Hong Kong and met up with two folks from England in order to drink German beer and watch Barclays soccer is quite amazing. This world is absolutely amazing.

    This is a warning to anyone that is bored with life. Seriously, get over it, this is the most exciting time the world has ever known. This is pretty much always true. Every moment is more exciting and event filled than the next. World War II has nothing on this moment. Enjoy it while we can because it is short. And, if you are an atheist like me, even more so. At least religious folks think there is some other place even better. Not me, this is as good as it gets and I'm fucking digging it.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    +100

    On the flip side, I went to Manhattan a few months ago and absolutely fell in love with it.
    Viva la difference.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    "Vive"

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It definitely is impressive. But I lived downtown for many years, so I am biased. No problem admitting that one.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    so you called it a night because there is no way you could've topped a great conversation with a 70 yr old couple? You need to get out more often Jeff.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Way to fuck up the lovefest Matty. Grinch.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Kidding of course.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hahahahahahaha! Just a light hearted joke. Tough crowd on here, I guess.

    Hahaha Ba humbug. Fuck me, right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Irish" "Pub" "Jesus"...

    http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/latest-jesus-sighting-outside-an-irish-pub-in-australia/19753892

    ...Coincidence? I think not.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm thinkin' someone had one too many.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It looks more like a parakeet sitting on a perch, than Jesus Christ, but I guess it got the pub advertised around the world. it's a well-known deal in Ireland that if you want to increase tourism to shome shit-hole backwater town all you have to is to say that the virgin Mary appeared there. They did it in a place called Knock - somewhere that would not have electricity or running water to this day - and lo and behold if it isn't one of the biggest tourist attractions for believers in Ireland nowadays. It even got its own airport if you can believe that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Have to agree. There's a time and place for snide and this was neither.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Lighten up Francis.

    That comment was nither snide nor disrespectful.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    *neither

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Everyone is entitled to my opinion, Mary.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Anybody calls me Francis...I'll kill ya. Anybody touches my stuff...

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    I'll kill ya.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    I'm with you in this moment, Mike. I was raised in a very religious environment where it was all about the afterlife. I've since modified my beliefs and consider my time and all of our time on this earth and in this life to be nothing short of heaven, we are living it right now.

    As for my tale of Bear-fandom, it's a long story that I'll get into sometime on this blog. In short I was an NJ born kid in the 80's who fell in love with the greatest team to ever take the field in any sport. I learned that it's not just about football, the Bear's tradition runs much deeper, I get choked up when I think about it. I love my Bears, I love this blog, and I love all you folks on here that keep it interesting day to day. Just wish I didn't work the night shift so I could be a more active part of the comment section here.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    And on that note, good night to all you fellow bears-freaks from Ben the night time charge nurse out here holding things down in raidah/9er country on this west coast of this fine country.

    I'm off for the weekend, gonna check in between grilling steaks for the game sunday. In your prayers remember da bears...

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    correction...every moment is more exciting and event filled than the LAST...should be obvious what I meant...

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    When I went to Europe a couple of years back I bounced around by train and stayed in hostels. The first night I'm off the plane I stay at a hostel in france.. I walk in wearing a Bears sweatshirt and order a beer (by the way French beer sucks too). The bartender asks if I'm from Chi and I say no I'm from Cali, Sac to be exact. Dude went to the rival HS of mine and graduated a year before me. We chatted it up and he bought me a lot of beer.
    Just remember every time you hear some crummy story about someone doing someone dirty..the majority of people out there still kick ass.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    No joke. I forgot to mention the bartender gave me a few free shots at the end of the night. They were all flabbergasted when I left them a $150HK tip (which is only $20, I actually felt kind of bad I left so little as I was there from 6:30 until 11:00 or so...). They were absolutely grateful. Dude is even on my FB now. (incidentally, if you search mikebdot on the internets I'm pretty sure almost every single one is me, including FB).

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    via @RapSheet on twitter:

    "RT @RapSheet: Patriots (M)LB Brandon Spikes has been suspended, I'm told. It's a four-game suspension. He hopes to return for the playoffs..."

    don't know how solid this is, but Michael Wright (ESPNChicago.com) has been mentioning it, so it may have some teeth. if this is solid, HUGE blow to that defense. Spikes is a BEAST (was a Flordia & has quickly stepped in to be a leader on the Pats D). i'll post more if i can find an article...

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Appears you are correct, sir.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/10/patriots-brandon-spikes-suspended-four-games/

    Best news I have heard today.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    I don't know if that's actually good news, considering he's out next week against the Packers, too. Could potentially be terrible news.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    One week at time, wrigley. Maybe the Lions will do us a favor again this week.....

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Hear here! One game at a time...

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    yea, but our D is better than the Pack. and remember...Pack has to play Brady on the road, not at Lambeau. Brady doesn't lose at home bro.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Spikes is an LB. This has more to do with the other side of the ball. I'm fine with losing to the Pats as long as the Packers also do...which is what I predict. I just don't see this as an advantage since he won't play against the Packers either.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Spikes is also a run-stopper. now when you take him out, Forte can run nuts. on Soldier Field too? we win by a FG 27-24

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    thats what I called to 27-24

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    You know, I am not in anyway saying we are not the real deal now or later. Didn't we think we were the real deal after Dallas or even the Green Bay game?

    We need to win out to make me believe that we are for real. Otherwise, lets just keep it at one game at a time.

    Because it doesn't matter if we beat the patriots and lose the rest, we need to win all games one at a time because I don't think this one will guarantee us play offs

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I agree. but honestly I think we are the real deal.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I've had two friends jump on the bandwagon ... They both said it looms like a team of destiny. I agree

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    And if they can take the division off us with 13 players on IR then you have to say they deserve it.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Jesus Wrig... I enjoy your perspective, but man... I thought I fell on the pessamistic side of realism. Sheesh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Bears haven't had a five game win streak in quite awhile.....people don't know how to accept it. There's a chance we can beat the Pats if Soldier Field turns out to be as big of an advantage as it was against the Eagles, but at a nuetral sight this team would smoke us.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I get you man, just never know... especially this year. I've said i don't really care about this game if we have to lose one, but I think we can beat anyone on any given sunday.

    Just never know.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    dude wrigley, Honestly Bro I fucking hate the negativity you bring around. All I ever here is how the Bears arent good enough.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Wrigley = Cubs = Lowered Expectations?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarZTR72-LA&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTBObmbe83A&feature=related

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    rofl

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    +1

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Word.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Hah. Negativity? It's called tempered observation. 6 weeks ago everyone on this blog, with the exception of Johnny Waffle, was calling for everyone's job. Angelo, Smith, Martz. Half the people on here even wanted Kyle Orton back. But look at that, we strung together 5 wins, 1 or 2 of which were impressive, and Lovie Smith is Coach of the Year. Not to mention, a month before our meltdown, The marriage of Mike Martz and Jay Cutler was the greatest thing since the immaculate conception. Look at that, to hell and back in 10 weeks; Welcome to the NFL fanbase. Now there's talking about (not from everyone, obviously) sweeping the last four games, 1st seed in the playoffs, Superbowl. How do the Bears go from "We're not gonna win another game for the rest of the year except maybe Buffalo" to "if the Bears go to the superbowl we gotta meet up in Dallas" by scraping past 2 cellar dwellars, beaten a decimated dolphins team that can win on the road, a self destructing vikings team with no WRs (at home), and the Eagles at home. Honestly.......the comment section on this blog is one constant overreaction after another...which is fine by me, if it bothered me that much, I wouldn't keep reading. But for you to call me out for being negative? Ignorant. You should recall my earlier posts from late October when everyone thought the sky was falling. And then recall some of yours. Now that's negativity

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    That should read "a decimated dolphins team that can't win at home"

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    And one last thing.......Maybe it's not so much "The talking heads are not giving the Bears any love" and a little more of "We want to believe so badly that the Bears are back that we'll overlook the fact that we might not be as strong as our record is." Records are all that matters, I'll be the first to agree to that. But the analysts' job is to predict what's next. You can pretend like ESPN hates the bears, and that all the analysts want the Bears to lose and that's fine if you believe that. What you can't conceivably argue is that the accuescore that has predicted us to lose in probably 7 or 8 of our games already has something against the Bears. Or that Football Outsiders DVOA formulation is a Cutler hater. We're ranked in the middle of the pack in one of the more objective ranking systems there is. Obviously stats don't tell the whole story, and you can argue whether or not they are even a great predictor of success, but you can't come out and try and say they are biased. It's not just the pundits who aren't quite buying the bears, it's the objective parameters. Even the Bears blog on SB nation has the packers, ranked ahead of the Bears. They're simply a better team. So is Atlanta, New England, Pittsburgh, probably baltimore, New orleans, maybe even Philly and New York. This team is 9-3, and they deserve to be 9-3. But to call everyone else crazy for not believing in the Bears is just like every other delusional NFL fan who kicks and screams when the power rankings come out and their team "isn't getting enough love."

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Packers better? how? fuck man your crazy. We have a Better D, better run game, Better special teams, better record, and Are passing games average out a bit.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    They have a better scoring D (best in the league). a much better DVOA. Best point differential in the league. All 4 of their losses have been in the final minute, all field goals. We have a better run game? were 22, and they are 23 in rush ypg. And when you use DVOA formula (which makes adjustments and involve dozens of variables like strength of opponent and situational analysis)? They are 10th. We are 26. So, I dunno if you could say we have a better run game. Their defense is ranked higher than ours using DVOA, and while we have given up less yards per game, they've given up less points. Their offense is 5, ours 30th, according to Football Outsiders, and they've gained 40 more yards per game than us. The special teams is the only edge we hold, but it's significant. However, When a team scores 9 more points than you per game, it doesn't really matter how good your special teams are. Especially when their defense gives up more. And if you still doubt it, just check the lines all around the country. You can believe that all the pundits have it out for the bears, that ESPN wants the bears to lose, but no one who plays serious $$$ gives a shit about the colors of the jerseys. Money talks, and the bears are 14-1 to win the championship, while the Pack is 9-1. They are (-175) to win the division, while the bears are dogs at (+150). We're a game up and we're underdogs for the division. And if you think you know more than the people playing with serious money than you've lost your mind. Face it, the Pack is better.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    SO buy more into others People bullshit rather than having simple Fanhood Faith that your team is better than the other team. Fuck all that bullshit stats.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    FRESNO,CA BEAR FAN said:

    JUST FACE IT! this organization will always settle for mediocre players and coaches. Not goin to the playoffs for four years straight should get The GM and HC fired. Im so fucking tired of seeing and hearing the bullshit. Every year it is the same thing. Im FED UP! FUSTRATED! We aint going no where, The organization just puts enough out there to win enough games to keep us interested. Mediocre Chicago Bears. FACE IT! I honestly can say that today I am embarrasse to be seen as a Bear Fan, I love my team but I hate the people who run it.
    Martz totally Blows! It seems that the majority of plays he calls are nothing but Deep Pass plays.
    Lovie you should get your fucking ass kicked!
    Angelo do you know how to build a team?

    Posted October 25th.

    Nice fanhood faith.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    hahahahaha WOW. Whats next? you gonna show all of us. Cause everyone hear has said that. I got more fanhood than you. WAY MORE. What u see there is a mad fan who KNOWS HIS TEAM SHOULD BE PLAYING BETTER. Now they are playing up to the potential that Ive been waiting for, that I knew the could. You on the other hand. WIN OR LOSE find some stupid fucking reason to shit over this team. But what can I expect from a Cubs Fan.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    You are hopeless.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    and you are a fucking idiot. Go talk shit with some bear haters. It would suit you more.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I really have to take issue with the whole premise that you're not being negative, pessimistic or lowering your expectations. Do I think New England, on paper, CAN smoke us? I'd be a fool if I didn't. But as the old cliche goes "That's why they play the games". I can understand why your fanhood consists of mitigating disappointment, but don't criticize others who have a truer form of fanhood. One that says "my team first"...always. There's one reason why I started reading this blog regularly and it totally goes against your posture. The pick on the Bears game always starts with the same question and answer. "Why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?...I always like the Chicago Bears." There may be other reasons underneath, but it starts and ends with that. So wrig whether it's rational or not, just for this game, why not join the party? You're on home turf here, so naturally some of the conversation tends to be "me vs. my brother". But how about a little of the "my brother and I vs. the world" too.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    And another thing. Calling the Packers a better team is bad form around here. F that noise! Even if it is objectively true (hard to defend since they are 0-1 against da Bears and one game back in the L column so far) some may fear your allegiance is weak. And Yoda says "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. And hate leads to suffering."

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    So, the wins vs. GB and Philly don't "objectively" count?

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I've been on board ALLLLLL season. Predicted 10-6, support for Lovie except the missed challeneg that cost us vs. Wash, but still want Angelo out.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Oh you smug contrarian you.

    You are wholly negative, Wrigley. Not a little, not a lot...in the entirety of your blog existence.
    It's all good - you haven't damned me to hell yet for being me.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I know my posts very well. You however say the pack are better? how? what makes them better? did we not beat them? Everytime I see this team win, I see a fucking post from you talking about how It was a fluke and we got lucky. Am I ignorant Yea I can be. But you sir are above negative when it comes to this team. You just remind me of the "pundits" in the media who try to find a reason for why the Bears are not good enough or why they got lucky. Look Im not gonna get into a pissing contest with you. Your right to your own opinions. just my .02 cents

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    He wants the same as the rest of Fres - a win! A super bowl. I get the angriness, it's about wanting your team to represent the GSH on the sleeve and fucking man up. We're not Detroit. We expect excellence. 25 years is way too fucking long ... people should get angry.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I'm a little late to the party but great story, great perspective. By chance, was the restaurant's name actually Piasanos? On State just north of Chestnut? If so, I used to live right next door before moving down here in 2002. Used to eat there at least twice a week. Excellent pizza which, in my opinion, because of the crust, just barely edges out the original Uno/Dues. However, I'd die happy if my last meal was from either.

    Got a neighbor a couple doors down originally from Boston and a die-hard Pats fan. I'm going to pick up what goes for pizza down here and mosey on over. Got a Bears jersey to wear as well as a hat from the Bears team's 20th aniversary Superbowl party that Jim Morrissey gave to an old patient of my father's who gave it to him who gave it to me. Hopefully, my Boston friend will be eating a little crow along with the mediocre local pizza...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Awesome.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Blah blah blah.... You either back the dog you got in the fight or you bit out. It's that simple.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    It should have read "bitch" out. Damn iPhone predictive text.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Apologies. I didn't know you make the rules.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    That means backing Jerry Angelo and I will eat shit before I ever do that. I back the players not the President or the GM, but if you're a player or an o-line and you're playing like a pussy then you're getting called the fuck out. I bitched about Olsen for two years, but I give him props for manning up and almost completely sorting himself out. I mean, do you back your President no matter what - even if it's George W. Bush? That argument makes no sense to me.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    We've still got a game on the Fudgers. It's all in our hands still. They're the ones sweating ...

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    fucking cheaters. I can write that article for you:

    Pro Athlete uses drug that masks the presence of steroids or the past presence of PED's. Athlete quickly and smoothly takes full responsibility for his innocent mistake.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Damn that fool last night! Cost me and Reggie Wayne 7 points!! (I'm in a PPR league) He should be Haynesworthed!

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Sorry, Sac, but in my league that gaffe SAVED me 3 points.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Well said, Mike. Life's what you make it. This is not a rehearsal. Your horizons are only as far as you can see. All that jazz. Wow, the blog has made all teary today, this is sweet.

    That was a really great post too Jeff. I don't believe in coincidences either, The Celestine Prophecies, that's a good read - the strangers we meet and feel a connection to, have a message for us. Conversations with random strangers is something I really miss. I'll get a chance tomorrow with my three-monthly visa run, but apart from that I don't get to have conversations in English with anybody. I guess that's why I come here every day, and today especially, because the blog is suddenly full of Christmas spirit and I can get off on that. It's Saturday afternoon, I'm sitting in work (came in for a halfday) and it's 35 degrees outside ... but it just started snowing in my heart ... thanks to Bear fans.

    Go Bears.

  • This one is for Jack:

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2770212-419/lance-comic-briggs-cover-books.html

  • Sometimes I forget how much I enjoy your writing, I felt like I was there at the pizza place. Thanks for the great post.

  • Please give us no love talking heads you scare me......

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/539100-nfl-picks-week-14-predictions-for-every-game/page/12

    Predicted winner: Chicago...!??!?!?!?!!?!?!? really you are going to chose "Tom Terrific" of the Bears....I love it but don't jinx our team talking bitches..I like that we are the underdogs and keep kicking teams arse's...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hmmm. They have changed their tune since I read BR this morning. Very interesting. Why would they change? A four-game suspension perhaps?

    I'm with ya though. I would rather have the surprise win.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Here's one from SB Nation, to offset the positive press:

    You know who strikes me as a complete ass? Brian Ulracher. Of this week's game, he said:

    "New England is the best team in the NFL, record-wise. But I feel like we're the best team, period. That's why I say record-wise. They have the best quarterback, numbers-wise. And everybody likes to go by numbers, right?''

    Coming from somebody else, this routine might go over better. But dude! You're Brian Ulracher! This isn't 2004, and you're not King Badass of the NFL. You're like a crappier, louder version of Jon Beason.

    You know who strikes me as a complete ass? Andrew Sharp.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    ???? swing and a miss.

    Really?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know, it's really awful.

  • Good story. Well told. Two thumbs up.

  • I live about an hour and a half or so north of Chicago and sometimes it feels like it's a million miles away. I always appreciate it when I go just because of the diversity it offers. Every bar I've been in down there I will just spark up a conversation with some random person and it's always enjoyable. If any of you ever get the chance to run the Shamrock Shuffle I would suggest trying it. It's an 8k and you get to run downtown with all the traffic closed off. You get a great view of some of the architecture this great city has to offer.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Where at Jab? Lake County or WI?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    McHenry County. City of McHenry

  • In reply to jbenton:

    I grew up in Round Lake Beach. I use to play ball against Mchenry.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    A good friend of mine used to live in Lake Villa...would go play on the Chain of Lakes in the summer.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Excellent read Jeff. Thank you for sharing that experience.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Old Style. Havent had one in 5 years. Great story Jeff. Sigh. I miss chicago.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Drinking Old Style. The true mark of a real Cubs fan.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Did you say "Old Style" ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPmx4JHobXM

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I live about 10 blocks from the former Old Style brewery in La Crosse, WI, the world's largest six pack. Not sure where they make it now. They used to allow the employees to drink beer on the job. When the plant closed, a lot of non-functioning alcoholics were out of work.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Maybe productivity had something to do with that plant closing?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Say what, buddy? Are you queshchunin' my perfeshinalisum to be a Brewmister, er, brewmeester, er, um,, guy who makes BEER?

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Maybe drinking on the job was the what they ment by "Fully Kreusened"?

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Jeff - Fantastic story. I've lived in Chicago (or suburbs) all of my nearly 59 years and would never seriously consider living anywhere else. There is something about Chicago in the winter (especially downtown) that makes people even friendlier. My wife and I have stayed in hotels around Michigan Avenue for a weekend serveral times in the winter and always found ourselves enjoying it immensely despite (or maybe even because) of the weather.

    But I've never had Pizano's. (I'm a Lou Malnatti fan, but enjoy Gino's East and Gulliver's as well.) Need to try it on your recommendation.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I was in in October and was disappointed I didn't get to SALERNO'S for some pizza.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Yeah, I didn't want to bring a bummer to the love fest, but I have to call out the Blogfather on his choice of 'best pizza in the city'........

    Pizzaria Uno. Or Due in a pinch. I hear your Pizano's, and Gino's, and on occasion, for something different, Giordano's. But Uno is numero Uno for a reason.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Pequod's in Lincoln Park & Morton Grove. Check it out. The Deep Dish is badass, not Uno's or Lou's baddass but awesome and different because of the "carmelized" crust. The thin crust is what its all about. Best thin crust in the city IMO.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Thin crust is definitely what it's all about.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Yup. I'm a thin crust man. And if anyone is ever in Pattaya, Thailand (and I know somebody will be), when you're on Jomtien beach, there's a little stone oven place just up Soi 3. All kinds of delicious thin crust pizza.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If I'm ever in Thailand, you are the absolute first person I'm going to be looking up.
    This in spite of your unreasonable hatred of our starting Left Tackle...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Completely focused all of that energy on Webb now ...

  • In reply to sjvl:

    want to hear something you'll probably all consider blasphemy?

    I fucking HATE Chi-style pizza. Nasty, doughy, thick, gross shit. LOVE thin NY style slices... or even better the brilliant stuff you can get at any tiny little hole-in-the-wall family owned dive in Florence. Mmmmmm.... pizza margharita.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, you are missing out mang. True Chicago style pizza like Lou Malnati's or Pisano's (owned by Lou Malnati's)has a slightly thick but crispy/buttery crust and is not doughy like that spinoff shit like Giordano's or the fakers. New York style is good and simple, paper thin with the crust folded in half so the grease siphons off like rain off a corrugated tin roof.
    go to www.loutogo.com and order some pies. Get the deluxe with peppers, onions and sausage. If you don't like it i will know that you are actually a robot from the future designed to tell witty stories and give sharp tongued responses to sports/current events.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Tell you what... when i make it out there next year for a game, a few of you regs better take me out for some serious shit.

    Btw, I did LOVE "the taste" last time I was in Chitown... I also saw buffett... can't remember much about it, but was insane fun.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The food I miss most from Chicago is the great Chinese.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Stop talking about food you fucks ... damn.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    And the Italian, Greek and Mexican too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great story! This is why we are all here! It's just a game. But, isn't it really more than just a game? It's a distraction. Sometimes unpleasant, but even when so, it's engaging. I no longer live in Chicago, but my heart is still strongly attached. I live and breath Chicago people, sports and food. The only thing I don't miss is the weather!

    All you Chicago fans are THE BEST! The absolute best!

    At worst, we're the funniest skit ever on Saturday Night Live...and at our best, we're shedding tears for Walter.

    Bear down!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't know if any of you guys are old enough to remember the old Sparkletts Water commercial..."Me and Sparlett's Water making freinds!"...where the water guy would go to variousw houses and make friends. It's the same wearing Bears gear wherever you go! In LA, my wife is always in awe how complete strangers will approach me when I'm wearing a hat, shirt or jersey and talk endlessly about the Bears and be as friendly as anything... Testament to our great fan-base for sure...

  • In reply to MadLithuanian:

    No, but I have recurrent nightmares of the "Bear Down, Chicago Bears" theme being used in commercials with some bloated beast of a coach hawking some auto dealership...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB I see a Plane ride in the future from SD to Chicago.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    only $800 will get you there right Fres?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Idk about now. The reason mine were so expensive was cause Thanksgiving weekend i guess. If you buy a week in advance it should be around 300 bucks.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    You guys checking out the internet or what? $800 from SD to Chi? They can't pay people to fly these days. Throw some kid who wears coke bottle glasses and a retainer twenty dollars to get you some cheap tix.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If we go to the Superbowl. We all gotta meet up in Dallas and Fuck the city sideways. Ya know What Im saying.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I'm in

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Contest:
    Who does Doc piss of next? Haha Im just fucking with you Doc.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    That's my idea..we all meet.. I will wear my suit.. we all go home happy.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    dude that would be so sick if we had a DBB section. it would be fucking wild.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Maybe the team will do it for us...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Is Shady wearing a superhero suit to the next game?
    Because then it's on.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I'm in but I'll be damned if I drop a G for a ticket. I'll be in the RV out I. The parking lot with the satellite.

    Btw anyone seen that video on YouTube of a few young pink raiders fans being worked by some square ass sandiego suburbanites? Hella funny!!

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    No, but please post.
    We need to schedule something earlier to save on airfare and ticket prices later...assuming we ain't in the superbowl in which case I'm opening a second mortgage.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Stubhub might help out if we made it to the big show.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I would poop my pants.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    yea I seen it. typical raider fans all talk but no walk. Much like their team.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    this one?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6l3SCZyCEs

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/07/fans-fight-chargers-raiders_n_793068.html

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Ouch.
    Second Raider fan should have figured out the better part of valor and STFU before he got rolled by the minivan crew.
    I love the SD fan and his lunging kick to the abdomen. He must've just watched Sherlock Holmes.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    I agree with Mike. This needs to be found and posted ASAP.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    :o)

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +1 Johnny but who are you?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Deep dish is for fat bastards Johnny. I'll defend the old ... but not people who have to get airlifted out of their homes after the wall has been knocked out. Thin. Crust.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    i'm an equal opportunity pizza destroyer so i can go either way.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bleck. Like a cracker with cheese on it.

    Who wants to eat folded food? Gross. Blasphemer!!!!

  • In reply to sjvl:

    settle... you live in philly for christ sake.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I do not live in freaking Philly. For me, that would be blasphemy - if I believed in that sort of thing.

    Settle yourself, for chissake. Just having some fun.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Dude. Cheese and crackers rock!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Blasphemer! Heretic! Stone him! STONE him!"

    LOL.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    See what I get for trying to maintain my girlish figure Al?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I already have my 'girlish figure', MB.

    Unfortnately the girl is Rosy O'Donnell.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Speaking of fat bastards ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I know this place called the PIZZA PLACE in Round Lake. Best fucking Pizza Ive ever had. and The hoagie Sandwiches were off the chain. Fuck im drooling now.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Seriously, stop with the fucking food talk ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1
    Thin crust rocks.

    And ..as in 'plus one voice' .. not the points system people interpret it for.

    There. I said it. It's out there.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    speaking of food... any of you guys home chefs?

    If so, check out this bad ass piece of equipment: http://www.uncrate.com/men/home/dining/shun-higo-nokami-gentlemans-knife/

    ...you know, in case you don't really have a need for the Hatori Hanzai samurai sword.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A Gentleman's knife... how quaint.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Indeed Dave, indeed.

    I believe it comes with a free cigar snipper/circumsizer

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Read the last 2 paragraphs at the very bottom under "Picks": http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/kerry_byrne/12/10/patriots-bears/index.html?

    I know stats are stats, but fucken a. We beat these assholes and we're the real deal man. These guys are going to be really hard to beat... statistically that is.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Remember: "There are lies, damn lies and STATISTICS.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Holy art show batman... no seriously: http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/12/10/batman.art.show/index.html?hpt=C2

  • In reply to sjvl:

    sjvl, have to disagree on the Uno thing. I have eaten more pizza from big name places and small mom and pop places in both the city and suburbs. I have to say that Uno wouldn't make the top 20. Heck they are closing one up near me, tearing it down to put up a chik-fil-a. Never had a pizanos, but sure had a ton of awesome pizza around here.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I was talking about the real one downtown. Not the chain locations.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Long, long ago, I recall getting pizza in Piper's Alley. In truth, I cannot say whether it was worth a shit, because I was always in a rather altered state there. But we did eat that stuff.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    By the way Matt, I'll be 70 sooner than I want to think. A bit more than 10 years from now. I'll still be a Bear's fan and while I may not be an interesting conversationalist to a lot of people much younger, I suspect there will be people who will enjoy talking football or whatever with me. Age makes you older but it doesn't change who you are inside.

  • In reply to BillW:

    A key difference is you can date women who can remove their dentures.

    So, you know, it's not all downside.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Nothing like a good gumming.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Experience? Or just thinking a-head?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You can date them too GP!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oi.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I wasn't making a negative comment about the elderly. I was just joking and saying that the night was young (no pun intended) and the greatest city in the world most definitely had a few more adventures and conversations in store...

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Matt hates the elderly. Everyone got that?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    So fucked up man... I love my grammpie and gammie.

    You're a monster Matty!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1 What an asshole

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Got it. No disrespect meant in any direction. Actually I'm looking forward to going senile. They say the best part is you're always meeting new people. (Just a joke. I think.)

  • In reply to BillW:

    Cop sees a guy in hus late seventies sitting on the side of the road crying his eyes out. Cop goes over to him :
    "Are you all right sir ... are you homeless, can I get you to a shelter ?"
    The man's sobbing hopelessly, "No, no ... I have a beautiful big house and I have a beautiful teenage Asian wife with the best body I've ever seen and she treats me like a king ..."
    "So why are you crying?"
    "I can't remember where I live!"

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    My 94 year old dad is crying now. Way to go.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Might be your cooking. It's hard to tell.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    oh, you're not very nice.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Hmmm, on second thought, maybe the tuna-peanut butter-macaroni casserole wasn't such a good idea....

    :)

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Gotta love this city.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yay! Have a great time!

  • In reply to BillW:

    mmmmmmmmmmBearssss

  • In reply to BillW:

    Listening to Jim Miller go off on the NFL crackdown on head-to-head hits on the radio today and he scored a point with me. I thought I was the only person pissed off about Brent Celek spearing a defenseless safety in the helmet on what was a sure-to-be interception last week.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    +1, Posse.

    Runners are, seemingly, allowed to "stiff-arm" defenders by the facemask. That stinks.

    Likewise, Sydney Rice made a circus catch for a TD last week opver a defensive back. If the defender had made the same "over the back" play on Rice for an interception, there would have been an absolute FESTIVAL of penalty flags for P.I.

    I'm not sure about the stiff arm (I think that is still legal), but I KNOW that the P.I. rules are supposed to apply equally to receiver and defender when we all know that, short of a blatant 2-hand shove, if the receiver goes up the back of a defender to make a catch, it's never flagged.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    My gripe has always been how PI on the defense is an automatic completion - often a 30+ yard penalty. If that makes sense (and it doesn't) then offensive pass interfence should be an automatic interception!

    As it is, it's only a 10 yard penalty AND the down is play over. At the least, it shoudl be 10 yards and a loss of down.

    It is amazing how arbitrary the NFL actually is.

  • In reply to BillW:

    +1, BillW.

    Curiously, the NCAA is as right on P.I. (Spot foul or 15 yards, max) as it is WRONG on overtime.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I have to disagree. Defenders shouldn't be incentivized to intentionally take down a receiver when they're beaten beyond 15 yards.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    Sorry, there should be no such thing as a 50 or 60 yard penalty.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Even if the infraction took away a (potential) 50-yard play from the offense? I'm all for letting the ticky-tack stuff go, but if a receiver gets mauled on a catchable ball 50 yards downfield a spot foul is only fair. Otherwise the defender gets a 35 yard reward for his infraction.

  • In reply to BillW:

    That is going to be one cold ass game on Sunday. If I were going I would have on some long johns, pack boots, windbreaker, hat, and good gloves. Keep those extremities warm boys. I think everyone who stays in their seats will be standing almost the entire game to stay warm. Make some noise and stay pumped up, but the wind could muffle the crowd noise. I've played in these conditions, and it hurts. Every part of the body aches. The game will be played in a little slower motion than normal. Should be a good game.

  • In reply to BillW:

    And if a team is backed up a yard out from their own goal-line and they commit a penalty, it's half the distance to the goal-line. If the down is replayed then they can keep committing penalties indefinitely. They should tag the five, ten yards or whatever onto the original first down marker - so instead of having to get to the 11 yard line they have to get to the 16 yard or 21 yard line. It doesn't make sense. Same as procedural penalties can save the offense from interceptions etc. The team committing a penalty should never benefit from committing that penalty.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sweetness. I had never thought of the idea of moving the sticks out in the back up against the goal line scenario. Genius I say!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Fellas, I'm not out. I just had a couple busy days of work and needed some meditation time after my lunch got ganked. I mean, I know times are tough, but you think your vanilla puddin and apple are safe no matter what. And the whole Fred Savage thing sort of threw me for a loop. Doc, your my boi man and you can question me all you want. But, I asked that question so I could report back to DBB. That's what fuels some of these things; to share with this blog. And Fuck you Matty for hating old people. And Sac, great random Mario from Saved by the Bell bodyslamming me comment.

    I'm ready for tomorrow boys. Fridge jersey that was lucky against the Eagles, a 20 mg of Ambien to get me revved, a bottle and a half of some nice red wine. Don't laugh, wine gets me more amped and loud than beer, 5 pringles cans, heat packs for my taint, 2 one hitters of sour diesel, chilli that will make you piss out of your ass like 4loko, polishes from Bobaks for starters. And maybe a WANG POON sign or FEAR BONER sign but I doubt it. I'll bee too busy going nutty.

    Jeff-where you sitting? section?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    haha ur my boy, If you chill like that than shit we gots to go to a game together.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Since the Huff post link to the Raider fan encounter is broken, here it is:
    http://blog.clckd.com/raiders-and-chargers-fans-fight-in-the-parking-lot/37/

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    OUCH! I can watch people's ankles give way or maybe even a bone poking out from a compound fracture, but nothing makes me cringe more than seeing some dude's head bounce off concrete. Thanks for the link.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    that is one of the greatest ideas ive ever heard

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Great idea, Irish...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That green bay return man (I think it was shields) got flagged for "illegal hands to the face" or something like that for basically a stiff arm two weeks ago in Atlanta.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Yes, but more often they let it go whereas if a defender so much as breathes on an opponent's face mask, it's 15 yards.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    They let it go ALL the time, even when it is "grasping and pulling" (that's what she said) of the facemask...which is mindboggling.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Like Leslie Frazier's pick over the back of Jefferson/GB? (1:17)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jZwQK2BtGs

    Right at the end, Madden calls it the best interception he'd ever seen.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    awesome

  • In reply to BillW:

    Thanks for a great post Jeff. A truly wonderful story.

  • He hate you.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    HeHateMe

  • You may want to stay out of this one Doc, you can't afford offending anyone else on here...LOL

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    +1 Murph. Doc is on a real spree. I wonder who is next. lol

  • I've heard DJ Moore on Mully and Hanley a few times, and he is funny. After the Dallas game, he was cracking me up.
    Peppers beats on Tom
    Brady gets a fearboner
    Bears win by fourteen

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Don Banks' humble pie
    Scent wafts into our noses
    Olfactory bliss

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    DJ is a funny, funny smurf. And I'm not just talking about the CTA map he has carved in his do.

  • lol I see ya.

  • I did slash do that whenever I talk to girls online or texting, you would be amazed how many think your mad or just plain boring if you don't put lol at the end.

  • Old Style = Dog Pile

    Just keeping it real.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Hey! That shit was okay back in the day when $2.19 got you a 12-pack.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I remember Mickey's Malt on sale for $1 a six pack. I seem to remember one summer living on Mickey's and cottage cheese for about a month...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    On case day (24 beers - 24 hours) my sophomore year in college, it was Mickey's hand grenades for me. Those little bastards are rough...but thankfully my liver had fewer miles on it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Mmmm, Mickey's big mouth or Private Stock.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Twas big mouths...
    The beer of choice in college was Schells...particulary Schells Big Butt Doppelbock.
    My Dutch roomie also informed me that all dutch beers sold in the states were piss...particularly Grolsch (which is a shame because I loved the stoppered bottles).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Damn, Mike, check out the post just below. We were both thinking Schell. I liked the Octoberfest beer also.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wow, if Grolsch is piss I'd love to taste some premium dutch beer. I like the Grolsch!

  • In reply to Church:

    He said the Grolsch sold back home is a completely different beast. I haven't been to the Hague yet but I believe him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The Belgian monks make the tastiest beer I ever did quaff. 'Palm' beer, pronounced 'Pallum'. They sell it in Holland too.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    dogpile.com the old equivalent of google.com

    "Who was the twelfth President?"
    "I don't know, dogpile it and see ..."

  • Yeah, well fuck you, Doc! I'm *pissed* now!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Oh, and friggin' LOL, right?

  • I was just busting your chops Doc. Hey every Blog needs its own asshole. hahha kidding bro LOL?

  • No, that's Visalia.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha

  • I serious;y doubt crown took that personally. I think he's just busy. I would be shocked if you chased him off with the obviously tongue-in-cheek statement.

  • Yeah, so I've been wanting to bring this topic up with you guys. I know Old Style is the favorite local brew for posterity sake, but what do you guys break out when you want to impress.

    Allow me to start? Thanks...

    Every day good beer

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    For specials I drink Corona Lime and Salt, or Negra Modelo.

    Europe beers Guiness, New Castle, Stella Artois, and St paulys girl.

    Whatever cheap shit- Mickeys tall cans

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    But im Spanish so I like the Modelo and Coronas first. Pacifico is also great

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Anthony Bourdain rocks the Tecate...just like me.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Read all of this:
    Nothing is personal therefore everything is personal - I love this blog and all of its "writers".

    How could anyone end their night with just talking to a couple in their seventies. Gotta stay up real late with the four a.m. closing time bars and finish up puking on one's shoes, that's getting out more.

    Tripping off the curb while yelling taxi is optional. No sarcasm LOL.

    Matt forget about it. My comment was stupid anyway, except for the Jeff = Royko remark.

    Jeff should be writing the John Kass section in the Tribune, because Kass is a wanker that cannot get close to Royko and never will. Whereas Jeff,see above, has a sense of Chicago and its people. Kass is all, just below the political Trib headline, junk. As the boys in the Godfather might say - "he has no
    Chicago soul".

    I'm jealous of Ute because I can never learn to use an I-Phone. Goddam touch screen and I get all the wrong crap. The hell with it.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    LOL

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Jack, you are so weird and yet so right for this blog.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I would love to have had a drunken conversation about the world with Mike Royko at the bar.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    ....at The Billy Goat.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    being old doesn't make you infallible Jack. Kass tells it how it is and that is why the machine doesn't like him. It is refreshing to have a voice helping to root out the corruption in the city.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Well said, Jack. Seems like a 'good night out' isn't complete until you're absolutely paralytic. I don't miss alcohol one bit.

    Friend of mine (next door neighbour) told me he saw me leave one of my childhood town's drinking establishments one time. I proceeded to approach a lamp-post and have an animated argument with said lamp-post for some length of time as he sat parked in his van across the street. As he was telling me this, having the selfish mindset of an alcoholic as I did, all I could think was "And you wouldn't think of driving me home you bastard."

  • In reply to kenbill:

    That was brilliant Jack!

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Great read Jeff. You seem wiser than your years in many ways.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Stella Artois is French for 'piss'. Any German beer that follows the Rheinheitsgebot law - no chemicals. No headaches. Heaven.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Boulevard Unfiltered Wheat is -bar none- my absolute favorite.
    It is, as my wife puts it, "like angels peeing on your tongue".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Kulmbacher Reichelbrau Pilsner is the best beer I've ever had.

    Top notch drinking beers - Dortmunder, Smithwick's. They both have a punch and you can pound them. Can't find Dort or Kulm in barrels anymore.

    Lots of great small breweries everywhere now. I wish the government would open up the booze market also. There's a lot of great homemade "moonshine" out there that the government restricts access to.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Watch out Shady doesn't sneak in with his wings on!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great Lakes Brewing Co. - Eliot Ness is always a winner in my book. Great beer with a great name.

  • I've read the the "1st winning season for Cutler since high school" factoid a dozen times this week. That sounds like something that would make a Cubs fan happy. Fuck that. Cutler wants a championship and so do I.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    +1

  • 48 hours before the biggest game of the year and we have talked about anything but football. MB - My sister works at New Belgium. If you think the standard stuff like Fat Tire is good, you out to try the "experiments" that she brings home for holidays!!!

    I'll throw the Goose Island 312 in the ring for one of my favorites.

  • In reply to jmcyclone:

    +312 see how i did that?

  • In reply to jmcyclone:

    I guess you'll be hooking us up for the DBB Tailgate Party OTC (of the Century) next year then?

  • Fresno is more the taint of Cali while Bakersfield is the true asshole of CA.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Bakersfield is a big shit hole

  • Can't say I have a lot of love for Jamie Dukes.

    Nice of Briggs to pump up the offensive line, but Phil Simms says it is Cutler and Martz to whom credit should go for mitigating the shortcomings of the O-Line.

  • Seriously, I just met a guy who said he was from Fresno and he basically said the same thing.

  • Somebody left because you dropped a SEINFELD reference?

    Crown hasn't been absent for long enough to make me believe he's gone.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Who knows? He might be anti-dentite.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    No soup for you Buck you anti-dentite bastard

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a shitload of newbies on here now getting their appropriate initiation?

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    I'm new. What initiation? I guess I'm not well versed in blog etiquette, but I wasn't sure how safe it would be to draw attention to myself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVKsd8z6scw

  • Being surrounded by people who love the Bears, that's a great thought. A whole city of them. Damn, even my sister has been to Soldier field and she doesn't even like football. I know there's an angel out there that will see to it I can afford to make the pilgrimmage one day. Then I can die.

  • That makes two of us! Packer fans that is ... not hating the elderly like Matt. Can we call the police on him?

  • Good point SD, and good post - what if we were leading the league in giving up shit on first and second downs, ha!

  • And with this I bid all my fellow DBBers a good night!

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/if-characters-from-street-fighter-2-got-hammered/

  • 'Vadge' in Scrabble. That made me smile, thanks doc. Prole Scrabble. The decline in western civilization is well underway, truly we are in the midst of the post-literate society :o) I'm waiting for the first time 'txtspk' is allowed in ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    When they finally introduce numbere tiles into scrabble we will know the fall from Eden is complete.

    "I've got 'GR8', double word score, cool, that's like twelve points, yay me! Is Glee on yet?"

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +1 Irish

  • olololololololololololololo

    Must cancel this stuff out.
    Come back Doc! You're on the verge of going #16 on us!

  • Sd. Thanks for the summary of Briggs interview (I don't get NFL network). About 3rd downs. It's not just the down, but the down and distance to go for a first that makes 3rd downs different. On first and 10 you can dial up a play designed for about 6 yards and consider it a success. But do that on 3rd and 7 too often and be ready for the John Shoop epithets to rain down.
    I like them less and less every year, but one of the fundamentally good things about Football Outsiders statistical analysis is how they calculate offensive success. The official NFL stats are just yards. The number one ranked offense gains the most yards, period (defense allows the least). That's not exactly a good metric. For example earlier this year San Diego was on a clip for the worst special teams ever. The Bears on the other hand special teams were getting an average starting point of their own 44 yard line. If they played each other and Chicago started on their 44 and then marched down 56 yards to score a TD every drive, they would get less value in the NFL offensive ranking than if the Chargers started on their own 5, marched down 57 yards and punted every drive. What football outsiders says is basically this. A play is successful on first down if you gain more than 40% of the yards needed - 60% on 2nd - and a play is only successful on third if it gains a first or scores a TD or FG. I'm really simplifying what they do, but it's a start.
    Make sense?

  • arrogrant bastard is good?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Yes. It is really, really good.

  • No, please don't. Just carry on, Doc.

    lol

  • Oh no. lol.

  • Who needs pizza with all those heavy beers? Stout is like a dinner in a stein.

    lol.

  • Hey everyone there is a New thread just below this one. Just wanna make sure some of u elderly, retards, dumbasses knew that. lololololololololololo SATURDAY PICKS CONTEST!

  • OMG. The Park District held a press conference to discuss how much effort they've put into the turf:

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Chicago-Park-District-responds-to-Cutlers-criticism.html

    I read another article that described the field as the 12th man.

    Personally, I think the turf is part of the charm of Soldier Field. lol

  • In reply to sjvl:

    sjvl..................Fucke ME!!! that field has never been good..ever!!!! Why do we sod a week before a game, do the roots ever take..you dip shits. Does any other northern filed for football work like shit all the time? and turd filed in GB does not count because that is a litter box that is just frozen over.

    As for the HS Coach what does he know..I remember our HS field it might as well been asphalt..he's accustomed to playing on shit..A cat box to him would be the best grass ever... o btw lol!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Soldier field turf is a tradition. Where would we be without players getting up with huge clods of it in their facemasks? I hope we never go back to artificial turf. It's bad for leg injuries (hammies and ankles)

  • In reply to buckbear:

    The 85 team played on artificial turf...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I'm only in one FF league (DBB League 1).

    Murph and I are battling out in the loser's bracket, and MBHP just might upset Fresno in the winner's bracket.

    I'm awaiting the Fresno-FD showdown.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You'll be waiting a long time since I plan on whipping Fresno's ass this weekend.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    fucker

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I'm just saving you the agony of losing in the Championship round, Fres. You know I'm only looking out for you.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Adderall, not Ambien. And butter doesn't melt in the cold.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It was a rough season wasn't it GP? Injuries took us down. There's always next year.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Christmas at Albert's
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aShUFAG_WgM&feature=branded

    Christmas at Crown's
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG4XPVmF6J0&feature=branded

    Christmas at FrozenTundra's
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pL9DF1SRBnM

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    No thanks, lobo. lol.

    I just can't believe they held a press conference about it.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    As for the Brew...... boys and Girls..have three great small brewery's in town...and brew a lot at home ..(stout) if you can't taste the ingredients in your glass wtf is the point...yes Old Style is piss beer but brings back good memories of Chi-Town for me.

    MB..Fat Tire is a good reliable though lager.

  • lolololol..............................lolololol....................lolololol.....................lololololololololol...............lolololol..............GO BEARS !

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Damn, like only half this post showed up.

  • 4 words doc...

    Tenured. College. Math. Professor.

  • O.K. Doc, you guys definitely do not suck. Most definitely DO NOT give up the Math gig. I'm going to look for the other you tube songs and see what I think of those. Which guy are you at the end of the video? I was trying to figure out who the math geek is, that is so capable of offending so many DBB bloggers could be! LMAO

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Man, this post sure doesn't read right! Doc, you know what the fuck I'm tryin to say.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    O.K. Doc, I take it your the one wearing the Bears hat in Scathed and Unscathed video? Personal favorite of mine is the Yuke song. Man I wish Trac was still posting so I could hear what he had to say about the Dead Peasants.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    NEW THREAD!

  • not bad at all Doc. that song had a little Pogues/country/bluegrass feel to it. sounded like a banjo. i could knock back a couple of beers to that sound.

  • Hope so sdwat. Any advantage will do. lol.

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