Breaking Down the Minnesota Vikings

Here are my thoughts on the Minnesota Vikings, as currently constructed, as the Bears prepare to face them in the horribly cold conditions at the University of Minnesota.  I'm straying from the normal analysis and trying to look at this one a bit differently.
  • I want Percy Harvin to start.  I have sung Dave Toub's praises on this site for almost the entirety of his tenure with the Chicago Bears, crediting him for the league's most successful kicking/kick return game over the second half of this last decade.  Was that credit deserved?  I don't know.  I'm not sophisticated enough to be able to breakdown the performances of punt/kick return and coverage units without the advantage of game film and a staff of eight additional coaches who are paid to break down every second of a ballgame.  But one thing has become apparent to me watching the Bears special teams over the past three week (Eagles, Lions, Patriots): they are wasting their brilliance in the return game by failing to cover downfield.  If the Bears continue this trend, the playoffs will be a disaster against the solid return games of Philly, Atlanta and maybe even a club like Seattle.  I want Harvin to start and play well and test these units.
  • How can we analyze the quarterback?  We can't.  So we have to assume the Vikings are going to run the ball in the range of 30-40 times with both AP and Toby Gerhart.  Injuries along their offensive line will be a hindrance to this.
  • What's happened to the Vikings rush defense?  Eli Manning was throwing horrible interceptions all over the field and the Vikes allowed Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw to run the ball through them for 219 yards on only 25 carries. 
  • Sidney Rice is all the way back from injury and has made a couple spectacular catches in the few weeks since his return.  This catch was my favorite.
  • Visanthe Shiancoe's interview after the Giants debacle revealed the kind of emotions you like to see from NFL athletes.  (I can't find the video but it was airing on NFL Network.)  In the locker room he was saddened by the team's failures and seemed ready to kill someone.  A tight end can't do much on his own but if he can instill this passion in his teammates, don't expect the Vikings to roll over.
  • Les Frazier doesn't strike me as the kind of coach that ever rolls over.  It doesn't seem any of those '85 Bears do.  Frazier is 2-1 as head coach, with tough games against the Bears and at the Eagles coming up before finishing with the Detroit Lions.  I would imagine Frazier sees this game as a brilliant line on his resume when sitting down with Zygi Wilf at season's end.  If he beat the eventual division champion with a backup quarterback...how could they argue against him?

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  • FIRST FUCKAS!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Fres, you're going all gangsta on us man... you join a gang in the last week?

    Crips! I mean Bloods! I mean La EME!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If this game is played on a frozen field then the Bears are to blame. They HAVE to protest and cite safety reasons - ESPECIALLY since the league is so concussion conscious this year.

    The Vikings would love nothing better than to concuss Cutler and see our playoffs affected. They have nothing to lose - literally - and so they will use that as motivation. Not saying they will play dirty - but I'm not saying they won't either. These are football players, not gentlemen.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Dude it all comes down to the $$.. if you thikn for a minute they'll play in a small frozen stadium that doesnt sell beer you're crazy!

  • In reply to BillW:

    Ditto. They have nothing to lose.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ha

  • This speaks volumes about the way Wilf runs his organization - they are willing to screw their own fans over (ATL????) to avoid having Bears fans there in force.
    And guess what, bonehead, they'll still outnumber the Vikings fans!

    http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/bears-vikings-game-at-779089.html

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    No doubt. Bears fans travel well anywhere. Maybe when they become the Los Angeles Vikings they'll have a better fan base. Doubtful though because they SUCK.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Jeff, I disagree about Harvin. I'm all for being tested but I'm ok with the breaks this team is getting as well. I say Bears win this weekend and Packers lose, Bears lock up the division and then bring on some tests. Lets lock up the division with any break we can get, go to the playoffs and hope we get hot.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    As I said in the last thread, this game smells. No QB, no stadium, no hope = desperation.

    Our Bears have to take this one seriously and pummel their collective ass into whatever surface the game is played upon. We need an injury-free win and put this mess behind us.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Oh, and I failed to include it's on Monday night...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Twitter is saying the Bears have complained to the NFL about the field conditions at TCF (frozen solid).

  • Still not 100% official they are playing at U of M. I've heard as recently as this morning they are still considering a NFL domed stadium, Atlanta has been mentioned.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Where in theee hell have you been son?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    No matter where they play there should be no excuse for a poor performance. That being said I think the Bears are a speedy team and playing on an ice rink may not be the most ideal. So what is the closest domed stadium? Detroit?

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Wouldn't it be St. Louis? not sure though. Time to break out google maps

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    560 miles to St. Louis, 689 to Detroit. That's driving miles obviously and would be different times flying. I'd have to say flight wise it might be closer to Detroit.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    TJ is on injured reserve.
    It's gonna be Webb or Ramsey.
    Either way...

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    MB! What up yo.

    Lots going on, Ive been reading, just not as much written contribution on my part....starting a new job at the end of the year and I've been knee deep in securities licensing exams...boooooorrrrrrriiiiiinnnng. I also got engaged....so...yeah.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Congrats man!!! On all fronts. Welcome back... stick around.

    Oh, and this is NOT a trap game. we lose this fucking game and we don't deserve to go to any playoffs.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Could not agree more. If the Bears can't stand up to the challenge from a beat up defeated team when their playoff hopes ride on winning then I will start the "fire Lovie" chant Tuesday morning(of course after my hangover wears off). I worry that this could turn into another '08 Texans game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MikeBrown-

    No doubt, which is all the more reason why a game in Indy or SLou would be a home game for the bears. I can understand why they dont want to play it there.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I guess my point is, if it's not in MPLS, it will be the equivalent of a Bears home game. It doesn't matter if they play it in London - there will be more Bears fans...the other half will be fans of who ever is hosting it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Even if the game is in Minneapolis, I think it's still going to have the feel of a Bears' home game. Do you really think Vikings fans are going to turn out for this game:
    - Watch the Vikes clinch the Nor... what's that? Oh, they've been eliminated from playoff contention.
    - Watch Favre work his magic one last time... he's hurt? Ok, then they can watch their future superstar TJack carry on in Brett's... he's hurt too? So who's gonna... Joe Webb? Who the hell is Joe Webb?
    - Well, at least they can go and have a beer or two and watch the game. No beer sales? Uff da!

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    Payback's a bitch ain't it?

    Man, whatever soul-selling deal Zifi and the rest of those asshats did last year to have the year they did... they obviously didn't read the fine print. It probably went something like this:

    "These souls hereby relinquished to the ruler of all dark and evil, shall entitle the relinquishers (yes I made it up) to a super bowl season, replete with amazing last minute come from behind TD wins, incredible strokes of luck, limited injuries, and a story tale leader lead fairytale. It also guarantees a super bowl win in glorious fasion.

    NOTE: Void where prohibited, and if you chose Brett Farve to be your leader. All sales final, no refunds or store credit.

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    Frozen field. A lot of bitching from Bears players ... Butkus and Ditka are shaking their heads right now. Take your zillion dollar checks ... STFU and go out and play some football you little bitches - no offense Sofia Jane Victoria Lynn/Bear Chick. If somebody paid me $50K a year to play football in the snow I would have bitten their hand off for the chance. Spoilt their whole lives and soft as shite.

    Anyhow ...

    This game is definitely smelling and looking a lot like a big old banana skin. Think about it, this what the Bears do. This is why we have two championships in 47 years. We look for banana skins and ways to fall flat on our asses. Third string/fourth string QB, nothing to gain for them, rotten weather, we'll have zero pass rush, they have a jump ball receiver and a very mobile QB if they start him (Webb), new HC/old Bear. Danger Will Robinson. Danger.

  • In reply to jrnymn17:

    And Cutler's bright-lights-diabetes-nightmare-night-shits, let's not forget those....

    I hope Martz and Marinelli learned something from the abuse the Pats gave us, our last three games will be on the same surface. If we're that short on long cleats can we at least make sure Hester gets a set please?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Honest question:

    If we back our way into the playoffs, meaning if we make it more as a result of GB losing than us winning, are we as a fan base happy? Given where we thought this team was going, particularly after the Giants game, im curious to see the reaction.

    Hopefully, we take care of business and thats irrelevant, but just food for thought.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I will be happy we were lucky... but will want that regime change if we piss away the 'easy' opty to take it by charge.

    Same shit we always talk about. sigh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, if the Bears lose this game, they suck huge donkey balls and don't deserve the fans respect for the rest of the year. No excuse to lose a game against a 3rd stringer on a team like the Vikings. If we don't win on Monday, how are we gonna beat a playoff team?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Exactly, but I'll still be glad to have lucked into it... better than watching games I don't give a shit about in Jan

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I would think the NFL should make the decision today as to where it's going to be. To me it's a no brainer cause with the temps staying between 18 and 0 for the next few days and a high of 20 and snow on Monday, it just somehow doesn't seem to me they can get the field defrosted and in good shape for the game. Lost cause. Just move it and be done with it!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Ok, ok, ok. The Bears WILL win this game. There is no doubt.

    I just think they need to be prepared and careful.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I will be happy to be in the playoffs, but not happy because we will most likely not make it far in the playoffs.

    I would prefer to win out and barrell into the playoffs, myself!!!!!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Thanks Doc and Mb-

    Yeah, Im basically fucked. I always laughed at every single married man telling me "dont do it" followed by a chuckle. I always thought they were laughing because they were joking. Turns out they were probably just laughing AT me.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Well dude, reproduction is the key to eternal life. Which means a woman has to be involved somehow so just accept it and make the best of it. And by best of it I mean make yourself a man cave and get yourself a gumar. Oh and as all of my friends have told me.. you have to set boundries and limitations early. They always marvel at how my girls are always so cool.. of course it's probably because I've never married any of them.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Oh yes, because marriage is such a treat for the woman too. RIIIIIIIGHT.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    JESUS MARY MOTHER OF GOD, do NOT do it man!!!!!

    Seriously, think about it. Or call a divorce attorney and give him $400 and tell him to tell you all his worst stories.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's like Walter said...when he agreed to "Till death do us part", he didn't realize he was setting a goal!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The NFL shows its colors:
    "Aiello said the league has no self-imposed deadline on when to decide to move the game, if need be. He pointed out the Vikings-Giants game was moved from Minneapolis to Detroit on one day's notice last week."

    Basically, that's a big middle finger to all involved.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Tavaris Jackson has been placed on the IR. Fav-Re anyone?

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Here's the problem with Detriot, St. Louis and Indy...

    Thats basically a road game for Minnesota, as the Bears fans will travel and there will be significantly more Bears fans there. They still want Minnesota to have a "home game" feel to it, which I believe is why they are considering going far enough away so the Bears fans cant invade the stadium and take over, as we so often do!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Meaning it will be full of Atlanta Falcons fans instead. Vikings fans don't travel.
    At all.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Also, Bears fans the LAST thing we want is for the players to be playing on a compeletely frozen surface, with a concrete feel to it. We cant afford a stupid pointless injury because Minnesota sucks at life.

    The union should get involved at this point if the field cannot be thawed properly in time. I hate to sound like a little bitch, but if thats the case they might as well play the game in the metrodome parking lot...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    It would be easier to clear the snow that way.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Besides, the Vikes had to go and get a "Rent-a-Wreck QB" for the game since all the "Lease-a-Wreck QB"s are out of service!
    I know ..I know... we got Collins.
    Maybe the Vikes figure all they need is a QB that can hand off to Peterson all night and they'll whip us like the Pats did so get the shittyist field conditions they can and hope for the best..right?

  • Stop that Doc!

    Us jaded married and childrened peoples should not deflower this poor young lad at the precipice of his impending fall from freedom, grace, fun, blow jobs, etc

  • I would say it's more like salmon if we want to get all anthropomorphic (or the inverse). With a such a strong desire to spawn they swim themselves to their own deaths.

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