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Mannelly Gets Contract Extension

The man who gave birth to the name of this column has signed a two-year extension to stay with the Bears and we here at DaBearsBlog would like to congratulate him.  I don't think the story itself is all that interesting but the possible subtext might be.  Brad Biggs wonders whether Danieal Manning, Olin Kreutz and Anthony Adams are next and two of those players - Adams and Manning - are specific favorites of Lovie Smith.  Does allowing Jerry Angelo to sign them to extensions mean the organization has already made the decision that this current regime is coming back for at least another season, if not more?  It would seem to me that getting these deals done now means the McCaskey family has put their stamp of approval on the 2010 campaign.
Pompei Says Bears Were Not in Lovie Deuce All Day
From his column in today's Tribune:
In the aftermath of the Bears allowing 34 points and 269 passing yards in their victory over the Jets on Sunday, many fingers were pointed at the Cover-2 defense.
It's true the Bears gave up some yardage playing Cover-2, including Mark Sanchez's 23-yard touchdown pass to Santonio Holmes. But the Bears played more safety up and Cover-1 than they have most of the season.
A review of the tape shows the Bears were playing something other than a true two-deep alignment on 54 percent of the Jets' snaps. They played a lot of single safety high, and the Jets completed many passes on slant routes against that alignment.
In the fourth quarter, the Bears used even less Cover-2 than the rest of the game, appearing to call for it on only six plays. One of the plays was Chris Harris' victory-sealing interception.

I don't know what defensive systems the Bears were running from play to play but I'll take Pompei's word for it.  I will say, concretely, that whatever system they were in failed for most of the game and the Bears were susceptible to the same plays (tight end in the seam, mid-range slant routes) that they have been susceptible to for the duration of Lovie Smith's tenure as head coach of the Chicago Bears.


What's Still There For the Bears?
This time of the NFL season is downright confusing often so here's the basic rundown for the Bears.  (1) The Bears clinch the #2 seed with a win Sunday or if the Eagles lose one of their two games over the next six days.  (2) The Bears clinch the #1 seed if they beat the Packers and John Fox's Panthers beat the Falcons (not likely).  (3) If the Bears lose Sunday and the Eagles win out, the Pack will be headed to Soldier Field the following week for the Wild Card round.
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  • First run, then pass. The Pats averaged 7yds per rush when they beat the pack. Brady's passing numbers were pedestrian.

  • First

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Sorry. Flag on that play, Viva. False start.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Noted. Next time I take the five yards, I'm gonna knock someone on their ass. Mind as well make it fifteen. (You hearin me Tundra?)

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You're all welcome to bring your pets to my place and root against the dog killer tonight. I'm so sick of the over hyped "story of redemption". I mean the guy used to hang dogs or strangle them with his bare hands but he hasn't done that in years!
    Ah if only unibomber could throw a football the media would be singing his praises now.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Even Obama had to call eagle GM and praise him for hiring Vick. Why didnt he do this last year? DOuche!

    I still wont forget what he did. I am surprised that he is even in football. BAN HIM!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Not a Vick fan but I have to say he isn't the same punk that went to the pen. I have seen a change in him. Much rather prefer the Vic now than the one before.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Does that move by Obama surprise you?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Politicians are what they are SC.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yahoo Sports and USA today don't have the spread listed yet but it looks like the Bears are 5-6 point underdogs:

    http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Yeah they won't set the line officially until after tonight. If the Eagles lose, that line may be as high as 10.

  • FIRST to say that the long snapper is crucial to the team and that is never more evident until the long snapper gets hurt...or tries to audible.

  • Trac, you bastard. Glory has been snatched from my hands.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ha ha. Was fun to do it Johnny. The emotion you are feeling right now is going to be not unlike what Cheese Nation will be feeling next Monday Morning.

  • Option 3 is no option.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I'm thinking home teams win. We drop sunday's game, get the 3 seed, then beat the Fudgers at home.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    We need to strangle the life out of that snake on Sunday.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Both the Patriots' and Jets' offensive plans demonstrate how to beat the Bears' defense. First, contain the pass rush of the front four, either by virtue of a studly O-line (both the Patriots and Jets have good O-lines) or by virtue of adding tight-end packages to the mix. Second, call pass plays that focus on short/mid slant and crossing patters and seam patterns. Third, have a good enough quarterback that you can compile 8-10 play drives using this strategy without worrying about a poor decision. Rinse and repeat.

    Rodgers is clearly good enough to beat the Bears' defense using this strategy, so everything is predicated upon our front four being to generate consistent pressure on him. The Packers' O-line (as others have commented) is not nearly as strong as either the Patriots' or Jets', but they have been playing better of late, and handled the Giants' d-line fairly well.

    On a positive note, I don't think our d-line has had back-to-back poor performances since the season began (am I mistaken?) and so they might be due for a big performance against the Packers. If we sack Rodgers two or three times and generate consistent pressure, we win. If we don't, I don't like our chances.

  • In reply to jj320:

    SHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

  • In reply to jj320:

    We were beaten by the Redskins and Seahags, I don't think anyone is that mystified by what we do. Sanchez is what, the 5th lowest rated QB in the league? The Giants were begging us to beat them for three quarters. We can't rely on our defense, this isn't 1985/2005, Jay just needs to not screw up, run for his life, and our receivers need to wear ear-muffs so they don't hear footsteps, and we'll be fine.
    Seriously, if we can't deal with a team that has nearly a third of their squad on IR then we don't deserve anything anyway.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    It's more football that way, so not all bad .... gives the Soldier field fans the chance to see the Fudgers spanked twice.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    From the "Hey, you COULD be a DOLPHINS fan" department:

    "But at the end of last Sunday's 34-27 loss to the Detroit Lions at Sun Life Stadium, in which the Dolphins blew a 10-point lead in the final five minutes, boos and insulting chants directed at Henne rained down from the stands. After Henne's second interception in as many drives was returned 30 yards for the game-winning touchdown by Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy, a chant of 'Henne Sucks' picked up steam. While Henne said he blocked that out, his teammates were angered by the display.

    'It's their decision and it's silly, but that's fair-weather fans,' Dolphins inside linebacker Channing Crowder said." - NFL FanHouse.

    LOL. Yo, Channing, you guys went One and SEVEN at HOME. Exactly where was this "Fair weather" you're talking about?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nathan Vasher had one helluva game with a INT and a crucial tackle at the end of the game that sealed the victory.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I still don't get how we binned Vasher. Dude was a pro-bowler.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    San Diego canned him too, but perhaps that's not saying much these days. The fact that the secondary strapped Lions were the only team to pick him up ought to say something, though he did have a good game.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    if Cutler plays they will be gunning to take him out. don't play Cutler.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Agreed on this point. Treat this game as if its the 2nd game of the preseason. Keep the O and D lines in there all game long, but pull offensive skill position guys after the half. Remember that Clay Matthews was hobbled in week 3 and wasn't a threat. Let the line screw Collins or Hanie over, but not Cutler.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    +1

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/257510-bears-super-bowl-no-longer-absurd-combo?eref=sihp

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I wouldn't read too much into any subtext from these signings.
    Big Toe.. DT playing well on the cheap for 3 years.. sign
    Mannelly.. well we all saw what happened with our backup long snappers in the preseason.. sign

    Probably both just real no brainer deals at this point regardless of Angelo's future. But chances are they won't clean house after being the first team in the NFL to clinch their own division and if they beat GB be the first NFC North team to sweep the division since it was made, in it's current set-up. Yah Lovie and crew have probably gotten a pass this year even if they are one and done in the playoffs. Especially with all the stuff still up in the air about 2011.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    can't disagree with you FTW... most unfortunately.

    We can only hope that angelo is abducted by aliens tonight (and relentlessly probed anally) never to return.

    Viva? Anything? Help me out here soldier.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No matter what happens this year, it would be a shame to not roll the dice and see what happens after a full draft compliment and one more year of the Martz/Nelli experiment.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Angelo is the only one I want gone Trac, no more data is needed, no more excuses. He just needs to go man. No more questions asked.

    The rest have earned their spots... especially the three musketeers, Mari, Martz, and Tice. And I guess maybe Lovie too, if you twist my arm. If he goes back to lovie ball next year, no more excuses for him either. My $.02.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I struggle with the Angelo thing. If he acquires an o-lineman or two this offseason, he's built a terrific roster.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    If Angelo was the driving force behind signing Peppers and Harris then I think that alone gives him another year. With out those 2 moves the Bears don't win more games than last year.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Peppers re-ignited the defense.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Maranelli. Urlacher returning. Not all Peppers - where was he against the Jets?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Remember he ditched Harris years ago - it cost us a very good young linebacker to get him back after his prime. So no kudos on the Harris thing please. My mother could have done the Cutler trade and Peppers acquisition if I had some crayons and used only the words 'good' 'bad' and 'money', and gave her the necessary phone numbers. Angelo's most important job is drafting and NEWSFLASH! he sucks donkeys at drafting. Go through every player he's drafted, seriously. I've given up trying to explain how bad he is. And no - we don't have a good roster. We were BLESSED this year with little or no injuries - albeit losing two fullbacks pre-season wasn't ideal and affected our running game badly. The run game had more to do with having one of the poorest lines in the NFL - Angelo. He's had what 7/8 years to build us/maintain a line - how do we look? Garza and Kreutz are about done. Who else do we have? Urlacher and Peppers are int he winter of their careers, Briggs not far behind - what have we won? Bennett's down. Who have we got on the bench? Cutler goes down - who we got ont he bench? Sorry, our roster is shit and that is all on Angelo. Look at the Packers - 13 heads on IR and they're still in contention, they just kicked the shit out of a team that kicked the shit out of us !! With 13+ players on IR !! Don't mention rosters and Angelo and 'good' in the sa,me paragraph please.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I can draft an Oline Jeff, no offense. As a matter of fact, if you check out my blogs from this past preseason, I'm the only one (I'm pretty sure) who called for an all Oline draft, with maybe the possiblility of a safety (who among us really thought Harris would be the answer?)

    Angelo must go. He should be fired already for all his miscues on the first 3 rounds.

    I can understand misfiring on qbs, wrs (they're mercurial at best), but how does one f-up linemen? unacceptable. We must look at Pats and Ravens as models for management and drafting. Nothing less than excellence must be tolerated.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    If you want to know which lineman specifically, I can tell you guys that too. I check mock drafts/analysis throughout the season.

    Some draftboards actually have us drafting a WR in the first round...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    If it was the right guy, why not? I'd be down with that. Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, a Larry Fitz ... you'd be crazy not to take him ... or Jerry Angelo. We have youngish guys in Johan Asiata and Lance Louis and Edwin Williams who are promising - it's not like we can afford to pass up a game-changing receiver with the roster of experiments we have.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    So.. if the Eagles lose and we are guaranteed the 1st round bye.

    How long do you play Cutler, Forte, Knox -- Pepp, Lach, Briggs.
    I say maybe a half, yah I wanna sweep the division, yah it'd be fun to keep the Pack out of the playoffs single-handedly but the reality is I wouldn't be willing to risk a keystone player injury on a game were a win means nothing to us.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    What about the first seed, don't want that?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Excellence is very hard to achieve these days. How many Bob Krafts are there? Injuries plagued this team for two years in a row after our SB appearance. How many Division Championships in Jerry Tenure? Not saying we can't or shouldn't try to get better in the front office, just that it could be a lot worse. We could still need a #1WR(for you Irish), the next Monster in the Middle at LB, a safety, a shut down corner, 2 guards and a Left tackle. Come to think of it, maybe he should be fired.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    exactly, trac. Exactly.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    and btw, "Excellence is very hard to achieve these days."

    Is not the rallying cry I want to hear from my ball club's brass. Yuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The context of Excellence I was referring to has to do with Parity, Free Agency, Salary Cap.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I know trac... we deserve excellent.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Yup. Urlacher's replacement. Not only does he have to be a first round pick but probably a top five. The Mike position is the most important on a Bears team - he's the icon. We've been around for a million years without QBs (it seems we never have a problem finding solid RBs) but we need that iconic Mike.

    Come to think of it Jeff, we need a LT, LG, C, RG and a RT - now why is that? Who frakked up there?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Here it is, from the official site's mouth:

    "If the Bears lose to the Packers and the Eagles win their final two games, the Bears would enter the playoffs as the No. 3 seed and host Green Bay at Soldier Field in the first round Jan. 8 or 9.

    With the Falcons losing to the Saints Monday night, the Bears still have an outside chance of earning the No. 1 seed. They need a win over the Packers coupled with losses by the Falcons to the Panthers and the Saints to the Buccaneers Sunday and an Eagles loss to either the Vikings or the Cowboys."

    'Nuff said.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Yah, but if the Eagles lose, then I'd rather GB make the playoffs than the Gmen, I sure as hell don't wanna see that front 4 against our Olinemen again.

    It's muddled, let's just cheer on the queens tonight and then things won't matter near as much.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Playing the Pack twice in a row would suck.

    The only back to back Phrozen likes is when he and his brother tag team his mom.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I advocated OL for at least the first four picks last year, and do so again this year.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    That's the shit I'm talking about 85! Well said man. 46+ years, two championships. Not acceptable. Second largest media market in football. Not acceptable. Monsters of the midway. Not acceptable.

    Solid QB
    Solid RB
    One go-to beast WR
    Solid O-line
    Solid D-line
    Acceptable DBs.

    = SUCCESS

    Angelo has provided maybe one of those via the draft. Howdo New England build their teams? FAIL.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Nope... still don't get it Jeff.

    Really? After totally ignoring our most glaring deficiencies simply because he thought there were better players at those pick spots - like who... Josh Moore? Dan Lefavor?

    Does that strategy even make sense to you?

    Ok, so let

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    EXACTLY MB...all said and done, I DO NOT feel comfortable with Angelo.

    Maybe he can be allowed to still be a scout and choose after the 3rd round, but that's about it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sing it brother - HALLELUJAH!

    A lot of people on the board are saying isn't it great? Well yeah, this year, but we're lifetime fans, we're worried about three years time, five years time, ten. We need a solid engine ticking over beneath the hood, not the Chinese-made plastic thing that Angelo represents.

    Lovie can drive the clown car, I don't care. He looks kind of retarded and I guess I feel sorry for him. But I want Commander Data as GM, or Scottie as chief mechanic looking after the engine. Not Peewee Herman the professional bullshitter.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Angelo's philosophy with respect to the o-line has always been to find value in free agency. And he has been successful at it: Remember John Tait, Rueben Brown, Fred Miller, Roberto Garza are all guys that he has picked up along the way. Pace did not succeed, and the jury is still out on Omiyale and Manumaleuna. Drafting developmental guys is great, but they often end up on someone else's roster. Like Herman Johnson is now on ours...

    Again, I don't know that I would write off Williams, Louis, and Webb, but there is evidence, that these guys will succeed.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Look, viva... tice has done a brilliant job shaping shit into the form of a serviceable nfl oline, but it's nowhere near what the pats, jets, colts put on the field week after week.

    Maybe I just have unrealistic expectations of competative squads every year. Maybe accepting mediocrity is just part of the NFL these days, but I know it

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Cowboys? Please....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Packers are a very good football team this year. Unfortunately for you Cheesy, you have a Head Coach that has below average football I.Q. who has been out coached by Detroit, Chicago, N.E., Washington, Miami and Atlanta. Sunday will be a great game and no matter what happens, I don't think fans like you deserve post season Glory because you wouldn't know how to handle it. There's always next year though. Have a nice off season crying about how unfair all the refs are.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    How would you handle post season glory? Cyber-Smiting homosexuals?

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Don't feed it, no matter how self-deprecating its comments might be.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Self-deprecating? Vocabulary fail.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    you just proved that you are younger than 22. I officially forgive you for your lack of football knowledge. You literally don't know what you are talking about. Of course you loved Favre, you were him for halloween from the time you were 11-16 which was probably less than 6 years ago. You probably still have posters of him on your wall. You do realize that you have never once provided actual genuine ideas regarding your team, insights on football strategy or anything of value? How does it make you feel to know that you are too young to know anything about football. go back to the kids table you fucking child.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I am 24. Hopefully, by the time I am your age, I'll have developed the cognitive resources needed to participate in this circle jerk on a daily basis.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Don't count on it. Your belt size is already 46, you won't make it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm pissing myself.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm not from wisconsin. My belt size is 32.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ha! johnny I love that you pretty much nailed its age on the head. and that part about it being favre for halloween when it was 11? i bet that's true too.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    not good enough Cheesy. Try harder. Dig deeper. C'mon mang, give me some effort. All i hear is tired sarcasm. I was in Minnesota this past weekend and actually had real football conversations. Conversation so entertaining that i bought rounds. You are definitely not earning your round.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Have the Queens forgotten that AP is on their team? Why are they putting so much on Webbs plate with all the pass plays?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    johnny i was in mn for the bears game, and I must say i was surprised at how great those fans were. first of all, that they made it to that (shitty weather, practically impossible-to-get-to) game when their team has nothing to play for, but mostly for the good football conversations. I didn't even mind getting white-washed in the face by a stranger when hester broke the record because they were just having fun with us. all-round, good fans. one thing i know for sure is that it will not be the same story when i head to lambeau on sunday.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Agreed. They were pretty classy folks, but they are kind of white wine types when it comes to their football.
    Now, when it comes to hockey, you watch your fucking ass at THOSE games.
    Trust me.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Vick not so good so far. COME ON YOU FREAKING QUEENS!!

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Question:

    There is a real possibility the Bears and Packers will play back-back games to kick-off the new year. I've heard the line for this weekend's game (assuming the Bears' starters play a full game) is around +5 or +6 for the Bears. Should the Pack visit chicago next weekend, what do you guys think the line looks like, barring injuries?

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I don't see the bears losing back to back games against the pack, especially at Soldier Field.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    What is the probability, expressed as a percentage, that:

    Rodgers stays un-concussed?
    You and Phrozen are prison buddies on furlough?
    Joseph used the Gold for a little Mary Magdeline side action, leaving baby Jesus just the frankincense and myrhh?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    1. 85%
    2. 4%
    3. 0% Mary magdalene was not born yet.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Your line "You and Phrozen are prison buddies on furlough?" reminds me of an old joke - not exactly my type of humor but here it is anyway:

    Two inmates sitting a cell, one says to the the other "OK, who's going to be the mommy and who's going to be the daddy? You the daddy? OK then, come on over here and suck mommy's dick"....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Power Rankings? Power Rankings? Joe Flacco better than Cutler?
    Yikes and double yikes - Bears 8th.

    I fart in their general direction.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    ...you silly English kuh-niggets!

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Gents,

    I'd like to thank all of you for not saying a word about power rankings on a Tuesday. I guess there was silver lining to the snow storm in Philly afterall...

    What do you have to do to be a Power Ranker anyway?

    ESPN HR Dept: "What position will you be applying for today, Mr. MB?"

    MB: "Well, lets see. Hmm. I really think I can rank some good power. How about the Power Ranker position."

    ESPN: "Thats one of the most coveted positions in the company. What are your qualifications?"

    MB: No fool, MB turns the question on the questioner, and asks, "what are the qualification requirememnts?"

    ESPN: "Around here we like to think of our Power Rankers as having a sense of gifted insight. They all watch Sportscenter and the MNF halftime show, and repeat the talking points verbatum."

    MB: "Do I get to watch all of the games before I rank the teams."

    ESPN: "Good gosh no. How are you going to be a ranker if you watch the games, you need to stay focused on ranking. Just watch the half time show on Monday night and Mr Berman will cover all the games for you."

    What should MB do?

    Fucking power rankers have it made.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Now that's taking things too far Viva. If I were to apply for any ESPN job, it would be for Peter King's job. Man that guy has it... What? what's that? Peter King doesn't work for ESPN? He works for SI? Really?

    Hmmmm... ok... uhhh... then I want Don Banks job!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, did you see the power rankings this week? For fuck sake: http://espn.go.com/nfl/powerrankings

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's from last week. A new one won't be out until tomorrow. Waiting on the Iggles/BiQueens game. How 'bout them Queens?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Al - Tell him to meet you in Tombstone. You know how you shot those guys at that corral. The ones with the "cognitive resources". No problem, right?

  • In reply to kenbill:

    It's always fun to see how the fabled "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral" is handled on film since actual shootout lasted less than 30 seconds and the body count is pretty low.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Wow. It dawns on me, I haven't been to Tombstone in like, 30 years.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bears Pro Bowl players: Julius Peppers, Brian Urlacher, Lance Briggs, Devin Hester.

    No Corey Graham or offensive player<-----------crock of shit

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I would have liked peanut to be there... honorable mention izzy and harris (yes, that harris).

    On o... only name that comes to mind is cutty. Knox, maybe next year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff, a couple people have mentioned this already but more has to happen than what you said for the Bears to grab the #1 seed:

    - Falcons lose at home to the Panthers
    - Saints lose at home to the Bucs
    - and of course Bears take care of business at the Packers

    Also the Eagles needed to lose a game, which they just did... WOOT! Hello #2 seed!

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Dammit, sorry for the double-post. First one didn't show up at first after a refresh.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    All in jest, MB. You are coming around, whether you know it or not, and it is good to see.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Posts from cowards, such as yourself, Cheesy, are irrelevant and of no value.

    Go compare notes with that other gutless, pseudo-intellectual, PhrozentuRdra.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I didn't know some blog commenters are more courageous than others. Calling someone a coward through an anonymous internet handle is something to behold.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Who do the Cheese have to been on Sunday?
    Who beat the Cheese already"
    Who won the North?
    Who can clinch a first round bye with a win on Sunday?

    That's right Cheesy, DA BEARS. Blaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Well, sonny, now you DO KNOW IT.

    And spare me the righteous indignation over "anonymous internet handles".

    I called a spade a spade.

    On second thought I'll RETACT calling you a coward, however your behavior IS cowardly.

    Where were you when your beloved boys gacked it up to Detroit? Don't answer that, we don't really care.

    Now, after a nice win over the Giants you're back with the cheap trash talk?

    THAT, sonny, is COWARDLY.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Retract.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    so what to do next week? do we permit the Packers to play in the postseason this year and keep our guys healthy?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I say crush the head of the snake. Do not sit one player Lovie, not one.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    +100000

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Do we think Leslie Frazier can take the "interim" out of his title?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    He's done a great job. And with the lockout possibility looming, the consensus is that keeping someone who has already had time with the players could be valuable in an abbreviated off-season.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I disagree. We should definitely sit everyone when we're up 21 after the half!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I like it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    hmmm...don't know about that

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I would only sit my starters if I didn't think we could beat our arch enemies and didn't want to look bad.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I read that and saw "I would only start my sisters if ..."
    Man, Trac, what do your sisters look like ?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm not saying it will happen, but after everything went so perfectly the Bears way this weekend it doesn't seem like a ridiculous scenario anymore.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    trac....agree

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Seriously, folks. If you have a choice between Vick or Rodgers at QB, I'm taking Mr. Rodgers.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yup

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Jeff, a couple people have mentioned this already but more has to happen than what you said for the Bears to grab the #1 seed:

    - Falcons lose at home to the Panthers
    - Saints lose at home to the Bucs
    - Eagles lose tonight(*) or at home to the Cowboys
    - and of course Bears take care of business at the Packers

    (*) Chances are looking good...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    oh, and hey al.... thank you nation of wussies, huh?

    booyah queens. eeeewwwww.... i feel so dirty.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Eagles were NOT happy with the Guv. A staffer said he's just an attention hound.

    Maybe you heard Al Michaels line on the subject tonight:
    " He (the Governor) calls talk shows more often than 'Vinnie in Paramus'."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Eagles were NOT happy with the Guv. A staffer said he's just an attention hound.

    Maybe you heard Al Michaels line on the subject tonight:
    " He (the Governor) calls talk shows more often than 'Vinnie in Paramus'."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Vick got his ass kicked tonight. The vikes put him into the ground often. Hello #2 seed.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Mr. Vick is limping NOTICEABLY, folks.

    He has taken a BEATING this evening.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yes he did, and teams can thank the Bears for the blueprint!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nah nah nah nah
    Nah nah nah nah
    Hey hey hey
    1st round bye!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I SAW how you did that, Buck! +1.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Who is the dude that does Bears game tape break down while he drinks micro/craft brewed beer? I have seen 3 or 4 weeks of his stuff this year and its enjoyable. Links anyone?

  • In reply to buckbear:

    His name is Roy. Look for sportsfannetwork on Youtube.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Thank you very much.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    #2 SEED SOUNDS GOOD TO ME! PPL THERE IS A CHANCE THAT ALANTA DOESNT MAKE IT FAR IN THE PLAYOFFS AND THEN WE COULD END UP WITH THE WHOLE HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE! IM HAPPY AS IS NOW. BEAT THE PACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Exactly Fresno. I mentioned that a couple of days ago. I think Atlanta is the real pretender this year. I would be very surprised if they made it to the champeeinship game. It's all in the Good Lords hands and he seems to have it all figured out for us this year.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Yup, the Falcons had a soft ride and the dice have certainly rolled in our favor for the most part this year. Very favorably in fact. I've always said the healthiest team is the team that wins the Superbowl. I honestly don't fancy us against the Pats, but surely we can put any of the NFC teams to the sword.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    VICK- 3 TURNOVERS(TWO FUMBLES AND 1 INT), SACKED 6 TIMES. NOW DOES THAT SOUND LIKE AN MVP QB? SHIT IF SO I THINK CUTLER AND RODGERS HAVE A BETTER CHANCE! DIDNT WE SMOKE THIS TEAM LAST WEEK? DID DESEAN JACKSON RETURN OR COME CLOSE TO RETURNER ANY KICKS? OR HAVE AN TDS? NOPE. GET OF HESTERS LEVEL! IM TIRED OF PPL TRYING TO COMPARE DESEAN JACKSON TO HESTER! FUCK YOU DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    it takes the caps off

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    or gets the hose again. ha!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Vick looked like 2004 no studying, no tape watching, bad newz kennelz, Ron Mexico, Mike Vick. Welcome back!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    With momentum and everything else a factor... I think the Saints are the mot dangerous team in the NFC for the Bears right now. I really hope Tampa Bay takes care of business and puts a stumble in their step next week.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    At one point this season he was 11 TDs, no INTS, running like a motherfinger and had Rod Woodson - the greatest cornerback of all-time (no love for the Ferengi) - calling him the most dangerous QB ever. But Brady deserves it now.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Wouldn't that be a trip... Green Bay beats us, beats Philly, advances to play Atlanta, beats them and we get to have the Packers in Chicago for the NFC crown.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    hmmmm.....now that has some intrigue that's worth giving some more thought too. It might just be the game of the Century.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    That would be, quite possibly, the most difficult to purchase Playoff ticket in history.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Packers in Chicago for the right to go to the Super Bowl?

    Cheesy would cockroach multiply and DBB would become infested with dipshits.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    as long as Tice gets a say in who is drafted at O'line i'd be fine with Angelo running a draft. if not don't let him near those college kids. we 'll have 7 rounds of backup tackles from West Texas Agricultural State.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Angelo would trade down to obtain 13 picks in round 7.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hilarious!

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Is there any possible scenario where the Bears take the exact same path to the Super Bowl as in 2006? Seattle at home followed by New Orleans at home followed by revenge against the Colts? That would be such sweet karmic calamity. Creating Manning face implosion in the 2010-11 Super Bowl.

    http://www.manningface.com/

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Well...

    If in Week 17 Seattle wins, they can earn the right to play the #2 seed if they take the wildcard game. The problem is that the Saints are set to play Seattle in the wildcard game, which wouldn't allow us to play both of them. Unless...

    But if the Bears lose, Seattle wins, the Falcons lose, and the Saints win...

    Then Seattle plays Atlanta in the wildcard round and could advance to play the #2 Bears. If the Bears win...

    New Orleans would own the #1 spot, and after dispatching either NY, GB or Philly, could play the Bears for the NFC crown.

    If the Colts take care of business on the other side... we could see a rematch.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I don't see the Colts making it to the Superbowl, but you never know.

    The real longshot is that Atlanta would have to lose to the Panthers next week. And the Bears would have to lose to the Pack.

    If we win next week, we probably get the pleasure of saying goodbye cheezits (though they're still in if NY and Tampa lose). If we lose, we keep our #2 and there are all sorts of interesting playoff scenarios that could play out.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    In the case of the Colts this year...we know. They ain't making it to the Big Game.
    Nope.
    I believe we will back into the #1 seed. I have this feeling about Carolina over ATL, just like Minny over Philly. It's gonna happen, people, believe it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Is Clausen starting for them? He's the lowest rated passer in the NFL.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Wow. Championship boner.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Now there's a sweet thought Fres. Atlanta go one and done! I like it !!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Here you go sir...enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/sportsfansnetwork

  • In reply to Joseph:

    And you too sir.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    No time for rest guys, the Bears are healthy and will have the bye to recover. Place the Packers teeth on the curb and stomp on that shit!!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Hilarious comment when it looks like its coming out of the mouth of mr rogers...

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Oooh... American History X reference

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Disturbing scene. Like the end of Casino. Or the hot spoons in Slumdog Millionaire. I have something that would top them all in a screenplay though . Bunny boiler in Fatal Instinct? Lightweight. Got the idea while deep-frying my Turkey and I wasn't right after the image came. People would talk about it ...

  • In reply to buckbear:

    He has a new blog just started on Chicago Now too - Chicago Footballtalk, and a website with podcasts : http://www.sportsfansnetwork.org/podcasts/chicagofootballtalk

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Okay... so next week we're rooting for Carolina, Tampa Bay, Seattle (I just think it will be funny if they make it) and da Bears. Bonus points for rooting for Washington so Tampa can leap frog the Giants.

    We aren't perfect... but nobody is. The two theoretically best teams in the NFl are the Patriots, who are inexperienced on D (though still dangerous), and the Falcons, who just lost. Let's hope for some surprises next week and a comparitively easy road to the big dance.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    So, it BEHOOVES us to lose to the Paackers and send the Giants scrambling for tee times?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    OK. So, the Falcons must lose, at home, to Carolina AND
    New Orleans must lose, at home, to Tampa for the bBears to have a shot at the #1 seed in the NFC.

    NOT bloody likley, mates but, then again...

    Vikings 24 - Eagles 14.

    Who'd have thunk THAT?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Bad beating. He is hurting, but like Colinsworth said, they can rest their starters this weekend, and face whomever Wild Card Weekend.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    the philly clock manager actually let the last second tick off so Vick wouldn't get hit yet again. mercy killing after a poor performance by the pit.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I no longer hate the BiQueens. That will last until the season is over. I can't believe they knocked off the Iggles. Hot Fucking Damn! Not only did they beat them, they smoked 'em. Bye, bye bye for us. FUCK YEAH!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thank you, Leslie Frazier, '85 bears' Alum!

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I wonder what the line was when the Cheese played Miami or Detroit?

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Hey TBC, will you be back if the pack loses?

    I'm not being a dick, just curious and asking an honest question.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That all depends on whether your patriarch disables my account again.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Stop being a dick man. talking smack is one thing, spoofing accounts is just ridiculous. Just behave, that's all. Be cool and you can talk all the smack you want. It's pretty simple.

    And I doubt you'll be back if we win, but that's cool too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think you're confusing me with someone else.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Piss off Bed intruder

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Piss off, you're not even an entertaining troll.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Samurai!!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DM2-hc-zs&feature=related

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't get used to mediocrity man, that's what helps bands like Coldplay become huge, it's what keeps Elton John super-rich thirty years after he stopped being relevant. Excellence please, or at least the apparent attempt at its attainment.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Asiata & Louis are good, we'll see about Williams, but our problem is we need five players being good at the same time, with quality replacements.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    or four

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    agreed MB. Lovie and gang remain, Angelo must go. That's my 2011 chant. Hopefully, he'll leave with a ring, gracefully, if not, like they say in "I'm gonna get you sucka" - you can either take the window or the stairs...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The moves that Angelo made (or failed to make) in the 2005, 2006, and 2007 offseasons are pretty disturbing if you look at them all in a line. Drafting Cedric Benson when a perfectly good Thomas Jones was on the roster. Failing to address the aging O-Line.
    However, the problem for the Angelo haters remains, he was responsible for the selections of:
    2010
    Corey Wooton (4th Round)

    2009
    DJ Moore (4th Round)
    Johnny Knox (5th Round)

    2008
    Matt Forte (2nd Round)
    Earl Bennett (3rd Round)
    Zachary Bowman (5th Round)

    2007
    G-Reg (1st Round)

    2006
    Devin Hester (2nd Round)
    Daniel Manning (2nd Round)

    2005
    Chris Harris (6th Round)

    2003
    Charles Tillman (2nd Round)
    Lance Briggs (3rd Round)

    For this list I only picked what I would consider to be VALUE Picks. Meaning if someone was drafed in the 1st round and performs at or below a 1st round grade I left them off (ie. Tommie Harris). Also there are plenty of other that were value picks that are playing for other teams either through trade or free agency.
    Add to that list the fact that Angelo is responsible for landing Cutler and Peppers and keeping important veterans like Briggs, Kreutz and Urlacher. The picture just isn't so cut and dried in my opinion.
    If you look at the value players that we have from 3rd round or later on our roster and the level to which they are performing the argument becomes a little vapid. Angelo pretty well sucks with 1st and 2nd round picks, but he is an outstanding mid to late round drafting GM. Sure, there are other franchises out there who have better ones (the Colts and Patriots come immediately to mind), but there are some equally awful ones (be thankful Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder are not the owners of the Bears)

  • In reply to buckbear:

    There is a time and place for this conversation. I definitely think it's worth hashing over after the Bears finish the season but not now. Ripple in the force kinda thing.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Sorry...just wanted to put words on it while it was fresh in my mind. Should I call you Ripple-Force-Skin?

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Phrozen....... is that you? Blaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • In reply to buckbear:

    That was actually very funny. Nice play on words.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I agree Trac, but people defending Angelo just don't see facts. Bothers me.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Jury is still out on this years draft. Minus Lefevour (sp). Wright and Webb have been above average thus far.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Couple thoughts:
    * Yeah, we probably get more than our share of late round diamonds, but does that make up for the wiffed early round picks? Me thinks that's a net deficit by a large margin. i.e., would you rather have a guy picking lights-out top round, top notch players, or getting lucky once in a while in rounds 4-whatever?

    * 1st rounders HAVE to be huge impact players

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and not talking about the cancer in the room because we're afraid of ripples in the fabric is how we got seasons 2007-2009. Rinse, repeat, cry.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I dunno, MB - I will disagree that the Peppers signing was a no brainer. Haynesworth was a "can't miss, defensive player of the decade" FA prospect and we passed. It has bitten WA in the ass ever since. I think Angelo has to get credit for pulling the trigger on a good FA class this year. I think Chester will prove his value at some point and Manu has started to factor in quite a bit in the Offense over the last quarter of the season.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    not convinced, but I get your pov mbp

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    packer fan sports car? http://www.uncrate.com/men/gear/transportation/snow-cycle/

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    good post buck, I really do want to believe we don't have a polished media turd up there... just haven't seen much evidence beyond one lucky guy with a few lucky decisions. I just don't see enough data to say he's decent, but seems there's plenty to the contrair.

    Oh, and I'm not supersitious... that's what this blog is for right? To talk about all things Bears?

    Last point... Packers? FUCKING DEAD!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The problem with the big picture is that it is big.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I know that sounds arrogant, and I do not mean to be. Here is some food for thought:

    The San Diego Chargers will finish with the 2nd best offense and the 5th best defense in the league, and will not be making the playoffs? Do you know why?

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    The same reason I didnt get 1st in my fantasy league. The world syndicate of Jewish and Masonic leaders plotted against us!!!

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Don't for a second think that the Vatican, ex-KGB and rogue CIA ops aren't also part of it. You're up against the New Word Order...

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    All right. I can't believe this but I remeber back a few months ago when we believed that preseason meant something. Psh, we were wrong but as much as we hate critics that put down our Bears but we perform better when they sre against us. Thus, we need them to just hate us all the way to the superbowl... it will be a bigger slap in the face than when Arron rodgers got bitch slapped agaisnt detroit. Our first round pick doesn't matter or help right now does it? So let's keep the draft out till after we teabag someone from the afc. Till then, I pray I can get home and watch this game Sunday.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Are you stuck at an airport 85.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Is BigCheesy that Troll who stole some of our handles in the beginning of the season?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    yes

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    There is nothing more desperate than to come on the blog of another team and tell them that they suck when they are 11-4. I'm sorry Big Cheesy, you're just not a fan of football. You loved Brett Favre like a god when he was a packer and now that he is a viking he is now somehow the worst thing that ever happened to the Packers? Sorry, you don't love football. I hope to god that you are 14. Please tell me you just got hair on your sack and you're voice just changed because if you are in fact an adult I just feel bad for you. Timmy? is that you? shouldn't you be out sledding or something? You don't have to go back to school until next week, why are you wasting your time telling a team that is already in the playoffs that they suck? I wish you were better than this.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I love Favre

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Usually I'm at the bottom of the sea, dormant
    But every now and then I call upon the torment
    So I emerge, feel the rays of the sun surge with power
    Then prepare to tear and devour
    And after that's understood I let my sounds blare like Underwood
    After this, lightning and thunder could
    Crash in the sky and project down to the terrain
    The heat makes blood bubble in your veins
    Waves of energy channel through your feet in the form of a beat
    Rally back your troops, retreat
    Abort mission cause you know can't compete
    You're weak, fuck a backup plan, delete
    Cause after the mega-charge
    I grow mega-large
    Increase in size so no one survives
    You can't believe what you see before your eyes
    Yes, the god Lif has returned to terrorize
    Armed forces came out ready to brawl
    But at a hundred stories tall niggas look small
    This is the part where I stomp on Kong
    Rip through the city, crush and romp
    The [bus sailed]? at my frame but hit the flesh
    My eye beam connects, burns shit up and wrecks
    Lyrical Teks, slash necks
    Blood splatters all over my specs
    Body parts are found in tape decks
    So visual you can't watch the scene
    If you press stop the gears lock and pop your spleen
    Then I start to finish em: metaphor, simile
    Mr. Lif has broken out the heavy artillery

  • In reply to gpldan:

    A little Lif quoting? Nice.

    Been a fan since Inhuman Capabilities/Fat Shit

    "But when Mr. Lif plays Tekken 2, I use Law. If that don't work, I'll gett you with Kunimitsu, my jujitsu probably splits you when it hits you."

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I love the monosyllabic response. "I Love Favre" is all he can conjure in response to all the accusations in your post waffle. Big Cheesy - you have been mercifully spared from the ravages of intelligence. Run along we wouldn't want you to miss med call or dinner at the group home.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    wang, and utilizing cheese curds as a butt plug.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I mean i can't really blame Phrozen, you could tell from his explosion of anger/frustration that he is simply scared that the Packers might not make the playoffs. They had so much going for them this season but just couldn't stay healthy. There is always next year Phrozen so try to keep your tears inside big guy, it will be ok.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    do not feed the animals

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Theres a Turner coaching!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Bingo!

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Luck and team cohesion and that thing that just happens some years (think vikings and Saints last year, us and KC so far this year)... oh, and AJ Smith's ego is bigger than his brain.

    Asshole. (I know you like that word Viva)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jerry has always rewarded his own (Peanut, Hester, Briggs, Urlacher, Harris, Cutler... Sometimes mistakenly but for the right priciple anyway (Nathan Vasher). But that builds a cohesion in the locker room that should not be overlooked. Steve Young even said it the other night after we trashed the Viks. He said that the Bears have a "championship" locker room. To build a team, the GM must foster that environement. AJ Smith has failed at that task ever since he has taken over, and this year he unknowingly sunk that ship before they ever left port. He also has failed to regognize that you need 3 Phases to win games in this league, and Angelo has made that one of his objectives. (Think Robbie Gould, Brad Maynard, Adrian Peterson, Rashied Davis, Bredndan Ayanbadejo, Tim Shaw, Devin Hester, D. Manning, C. Graham, J. Knox...)

    And AJ Smith is an asshole. He chose Rivers over Brees because being 6'5" trumped being a leader.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Hmmm...

    First - Got you! Ha... consider this your eviction notice sir. Get your 'things' out of my dome-i-cile post haste!

    Second

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn, on #3, I meant GM has nothing to do with the locker room... or shouldn't in my mind. That's like my boss telling me how to dicipline my team. Not saying it doesn't happen all the time, just saying I don't think JA is the locker roonm force for us.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You are understating this.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Off subject, saw True Grit yesterday. Freakin awesome movie.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Had been thinking about going Murph but was afraid it would be a waste of money. Last great movie made was Gladiator.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Let me know what ya think when you see it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Gladiator was a genuine distortion of history. Good movie, but more fiction than fact.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I think TRUE GRIT is better a better film than GLADIATOR.

    Hollywood distorting history? Go figure. LOL.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    OH COME ON!!! It's like the Herbie remake with Lindsey Lohan was never even made! Respect, please. She was AWESOME in that movie. And the scriptwriter knew just exactly how to pull your strings ... would Herbie and Lindsey win that race ? Could they? Awesome.... just awesome.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Vick's below average game meant a loss for us this week in Fantasy Football. Slipped back into 2nd by 1/2 game but clinched 2nd place money and we'll square off against the first place team in week 17. Winner finishes first.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    As for all the Angelo talk... I've been thinking about it a lot. We should keep him for three reasons.

    1) Its not right to fire anyone after a season like this, unless maybe we get embarrassed in the first round.
    2) The next two years we need to rebuild the offensive line with our early picks unless a true gem (#1 corner, monster safety, etc.) falls to us in the first round. The picks that people are most upset about (Grossman, Benson) are skill position picks, not O-line. Angelo has ignored the position until now, but I think we can keep him and still make it clear where he needs to spend his time.
    3) With the O-line addressed early, we have a pretty solid team otherwise. Some positions (secondary, DT) are worse than others (linebacker, DE), but we're in need of some solid drafting of "the best player left on the board." After round 2, Angelo is really good at that job. So let's let him get us some depth.

    I don't think there's anyone else we're going to hire that will do better with the job we need done. And the bottom line is, our staff like each other and work well together. If we're going to build a dynasty, we need to keep guys in and let them develop. That's true even at GM.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    +1 to your 2nd paragraph. I'm into keeping who ya got when there is no clearly better replacement that is a high probability to acquire.
    I'm not slobbin' any Angelo knob believe me. I just don't get the total vitriol directed toward him and feel the need to defend against that.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    We've had a really bad track record with first round picks. Olsen is not popular on this site. Cedric is a great back in Cincy but sucked for us. Grossman was definitely not the reason we made it to the Superbowl. And the one O-line guy in recent memory can't even play guard well enough to start.

    Couple that with a lot of people thinking we traded too much for Cutler (I thought that at the time as well), and you've got an angry blog.

    But the fact is Cutler is the centerpiece of the Bears offense of the future. Orton couldn't fill that role, even though I wish him nothing but success wherever he plays next year (maybe San Fran?) Ced and Rex both show flashes of greatness even if the coaches couldn't make it consistent enough to work. And Olsen is a great TE, just not our team's personality.

    Angelo has good talent evaluation. He just needs to understand what our city is trying to do on offense. Once we establish an identiy with Lovie and Martz, hopefully he can draft within that mold.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    New Bear, not trying to be a dick but Cedrunk is a decent power back but he's got issues with the passing game (blocking and catching). Rex is fine as long as there isn't a pass rush. Olsen may turn into a true weapon but he's not a great TE now.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Olsen has improved, no doubt, but he doesn't seem to contribute very much.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    The best thing that happened to the Bears in 2010 was Run Turner getting fired. Had Cutler been saddled another season with Turner, he would have been nearly irrecoverable.

    The greatest testament I would make for Kyle Orton is that he did not allow Run Turner to destroy him as a football player.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    We did pay too much for Cutler IMHO - still glad we have him though. He made some Elway type passes in cold weather against the Jets. Actually it's not reaaly possible to say if we paid too much because we'll never know how Angelo would have drafted, and how much of a difference Cutler made to our win percentage versus an Orton-led Bears.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Anyone... ANYONE on this blog could draft better than Angelo using a dartboard. Honestly, random picks would be more interesting.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    According to Hub Arkish, Tice and Martz cannot stand each other but winning has smoothed it over.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    there would be a very understandable #4 .... namely the $20 million or whatever it would be to pay off his contract.

    I don't agree that Angelo 'needs to be let develop'. He's been developing into a turd the last 8 years. He cannot draft acceptably, never mind well. Arguments to the contrary are welcome.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Good - I wasn't too enthused about it until I saw who was producing and directing.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    That's exactly what my son said Posse. He is also a huge John Wayne fan and like this one more. Jeff Bridges had an Oscar winning performance.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I posted my very positive "huge John Wayne Disciple" review a couple of threads ago.

    If you enjoy excellent movie-making, see this film.

    Kudos to Joel & Ethan Cohen.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Really Murph? I saw True Grit on Christmas day. It was decent. I never saw the original so can't really compare the two.

    Have any of you guys seen The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford? Now THAT was a GREAT movie...one of my faves of all time!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Joseph, I haven't seen the new True Grit but I did see the Jesse James flick. I thought it was snooze material. I was actually on the set during the filming. They weren't filming at the time but it was cool to see the set.

    Maybe it's because I like the revenge Western's the best. I loved Unforgiven, Open Range and Tombstone.

    Not trying to give you a hard time about the Jesse James flick. Just didn't do it for me.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Damn Canada, that must of been pretty awesome. Yea first time I saw it the beginning dragged on for a little but the dialog and story was truly amazing. In my opinion.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I'll give it another shot sometime. You know how that is. Sometimes if you're not in the mood a movie just doesn't cut it. See it again when you're more receptive and it's way better.

    Yeah, it was cool to see the set. The only people I saw on the set were the crew. They didn't care at all that we were there. It was out in the foothills about 30-45 minutes from Banff.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Was Open Range the one with Duvall and the Chinese chicks ? Or was that Lonesome Dove? Both were good.

    Only got to see Once upon a time in the west recently. Good flick

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Open Range was the one with Duvall and Costner.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Chinese gals was BROKEN TRAIL in which Duval seems to be channeling his OPEN RANGE character.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Broken Trail ! Liked that ...

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    OPEN RANGE is vastly underrated.

    Excellent work from Costner and, of course, the great Robert Duval.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Ya, it was snooze-ville - I guess I just expected something different. "No Country for Old Men" NOW that's a movie. Gotta love when they refer to Yeats' line...

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    How about the 'Assassination of Richard Nixon' with Christian Slater ?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If Eagles lose this game. I think this ruins Vicks MVP chances.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    +1.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    12 men on the field. Brilliant, Eagles!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    VERY nervous time, Philly fans.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Works for me.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    I don't see how it's anyone but Brady.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    BTW, Brady also basically said that naming a single MVP in the team sport that IS football makes no sense to him.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    When in doubt - attack. We play balls to the wall and at worst, learn from a tough loss, and go into the playoffs knowing we have taken a bite out of an opponent, with two weeks to prepare for our next game, or we win, and eliminate our arch-rivals from playoff contention. This is a no brainer.

    The Packers are a good football, and have earned our respect. They are dangerous. They need to be eliminated, and we have the means to eliminate them. If we were to play opossum, we are playing into their hands.

    In my humble opinion, they pose the greatest threat to us in the playoffs (in the NFC). The Giants, Eagles, Saints, and Falcons all pose different challenges, but none greater than the Packers. They need to be beaten in Lambeau this weekend.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Totally agree.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    You are insane. The Packers themselves don't even know who their running back is, but for arguments sake let's go with Brandon Jackson. In the playoffs, it is about running the ball and stopping the run. So LeSean McCoy, (Ragea Bush), Micheal Turner and you are most afraid of Brandon Jackson?

    Dude I will take a matchup vs the Slackers over any of those other teams that can actually run and pass the ball. The playoff picture is all but decided now with Atl getting Carolina and us with no reason to play our starters.
    1. ATL
    2. CHI
    3. PHI
    4. STL
    5. NO
    6. GB

    Which means GB @ Philly
    and NO at STL

    so if GB wins they are the lowest advancing seed and then go to ATL and if they can beat the Falcons in the Georgia dome and we can handle the Aints, then and only then would GB come to Soldier Field for RD3. And I don't think GB has won a single playoff game w/o Favre...?

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I agree with this analysis. Winning in GB makes no difference at all, except to push GB down and allow the Bucs or somebody to take their place. That would be lovely, but it won't hurt to deal GB to the Eagles. They won't win there.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Wikipedia says you're right - Rodgers has been to 1 playoff game which was the 51-45 OT loss to Arizona last year. I have to agree with Viva though. I think GB is our most dangerous opponent. That could be my fear boner talking. I'd like to face the fear and rub out the Packers. See how I did that?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Eagles are gettin away with so much penalties

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    John Wayne was a gigantic asshole.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Take that back.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Heretic.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    He represented every racist stereotype of the white man in movies - he was propaganda for imperialists, and as a human being he was just a pure asshole. Mean, racist, hit women, and walked up to Frank Zappa in a restaurant and knocked his hat off his head. I don't know which is worse. Fuck John Wayne.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Jeff Bridges is maybe one of the msot under-rated actors of all time. Ask yourself this - is Robert De Niro or Al Pacino a *better* actor than Jeff Bridges?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    baaahhhahaha, did anyone else hear al michaels refer to the young eagles players as "puppies?" Freudian slip or pun?

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Good catch bearcat.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Vikes just scored. Tie game.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    so you're sayin we have a chance?

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Vick must have regressed over Christmas. He's not playing a very good game. Heck yes we have a chance to lock up the #2 seed tonight.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Win win all the way around.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    not only that, we get to see what the Falcons and Saints do before the fudgers game. #1 Seed would be awesome. If we end up with the top seed, I can hear the pundits flapping their gums already.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    They may just spontaneously combust.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Good one, SJ.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I dont care who my Qb is! dammit when your on the goaline, you hand it to AP! wtf. CMON MAN!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey, the eagles know that the vikings have one thing. AP, so I'm sure that he is going to be held in check and they will just keep Webb from running. We do not want the number one seed. The number one seed hasn't won the big one or made it to the superbowl. The last one was the patriots vs the eagles.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The #1 seed would look in JA's resume would it not?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Sorry, I meant the #1 seed would look good on JA's resume would it not?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Um, 50% of #1 seeds get to the big dance.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Vick cant play in snow. Some say thats why they wanted to postpone the game...

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    These player get paid so much money, but I am so surprised on how many that actually know how to tackle. Most D players arm or shoulder tackle now. WRAP UP!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    A) They don't actually tackle in practice anymore. There's an old adage that says you play the way you practice.

    B) They don't want to just tackle the other guy these days. They want to blow him up, knock him out and be featured on SPORTSCENTER and NFL PRIMETIME.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That's what Halas said, practice how you want to play.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm really hoping the 6th string team beats Philly. Then we get the winner of the saints game at home. Have we ever lost to the saints at home in December or January? Is anyone anywhere scared of the rams/seahawks?

  • In reply to luftwaffle:

    It will probably happen nag. I'm still chewing on the strateegery of letting the fudgers win and resting all our starters. Green Bay can do some damage for us in the playoffs and could make the number one seed moot if they beat the Falcons down the road. I am starting to think I would rather see them come to Chi-Town for the Championship game than for the Bears to travel to Atlanta. There is also New Orleans to consider. Alot to chew on and talk about boys. The smart play very well may be gifting the Pack a win and rolling the dice. Don't get me wrong, this is a very hard idea to accept for me but it may be the smart thing to do. I would love to see a GB/Chicago Champeeinship Game. I happen to think we would have a better matchup against the Falcons but I seek football Glory and I can't think of a better scenario than the Bears beating the Pack in the playoffs.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    And then cashing in on some retribution against the Patsy's in the Super Bowl.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    For Lovie it's a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If he plays his starters the whole game trying to eliminate the packers from the play offs and someone gets injuried they will call for his head on a plate. If he doesn't play his starters the whole game and it does become a gift win for the pack then the die-hards will call for his nutts in a sack.

    I'm a die-hard and I want the pack to lose this Sunday. They are our arch rivals, they have a very good chance at being eliminated from the play off with a lose and spinninig off a win vs the pack can only add logs to the fire for the bravado and moral for our Bear players.

    I STILL say WIN THIS GAME BEARS...CRUSH ROGERS AND THE PACK!!!

    BEAR DOWN!!!

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    Bears can't play their starters on Sunday now. Cutler, Lach, Pepp.. should never hit the field. You have to look at it from the Bears only point of view. If they lose they are the #2 seed... if they win they are the #2 seed. It is a pointless game for the Bears now.

    It may even be pointless for the Pack, if the Giants and Bucs both lose.. Bucs play the Saints who are still playing for something, the Packers get in even with a loss so at that point this is a total pre-season affair.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Lack:

    The Bears Martz thing is all based on timing and instinct. Cutler needs to believe that Knox, Hester and Bennett are making the right reads on the field. Timing and "staying hot" is key for this team. For that reason, they will all play to win in GB.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1
    No matter what happens you can't reast a timing offense. We'd fall aprt the next time we played and god knows our receivers need all the help they can get - what's the story with Bennett's health?

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    Nobody will jump Lovie is plays everyone and somebody gets hurt. He can tell them that the NFL you play to win, and it's a man's sport and stop being such a ballbag, and that will be the end of it.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    Twice agreed, GP

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    I'm happy BU made the Pro Bowl. Well deserved in my opinion, and I really thought there was a strong possibility he would not make it.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    From Da Site:

    "Urlacher had been chosen in his first four and six of his first seven seasons before failing to make the NFC squad each of the past three years. After missing most of last season with a dislocated wrist, he has reverted to form, leading the Bears with 141 tackles, 11 tackles-for-loss and 13 pass breakups. He also has 3

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Hopefully, he, Peppers, Briggs and Hester will all have to be replaced as pro bowlers because they'll be getting ready to play a game in FEBRUARY.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Hopefully, he, Peppers, Briggs and Hester will all have to be replaced as pro bowlers because they'll be getting ready to play a game in FEBRUARY.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Most of? He played less than half an hour?! WTF?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    What I thought was most interesting is that he was not a starter. The players must really love them some Patrick Willis, because I thought Urlacher was well ahead after fan voting was finished.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    You play to win, anything else is bullshit. People are getting their knickers in a twist about possible scenarios. Why? Que sera sera.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I wouldn't have a cow if they rested the defense.

  • In reply to luftwaffle:

    Saints recent history against the Bears is not good for them.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    does MIN have a new QB?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    looooooooks like it!!!!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    At least the announcer's are 1000 times better than when we played the queens. They only spent 30 seconds talking about the Brett girl tonight.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    its cause the MNF crew are tools and complete retards

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Did anyone else see Chris Harris's blog... he had a competition for free tix for producing a new bears anthem. Not sure everyone's preference of music, but if anything, the video is pretty entertaining..
    http://hitmanharris.com/blog/2010/12/23/brian-covelli-wins-bear-down-fight-song-20-contest.html

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Meh. "Bear Down Chicago Bears" has a great anachronistic charm. The remix references too many current players and will be obsolete before the start of next season. The guy did a great job on the song no doubt, but a fight song it ain't.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Don't mess with the Classics.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The only NFL fight song that can hold candle to BEAR DOWN, CHICAGO BEARS is HAIL TO THE REDSKINS.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Nervous time, Philly fans.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    don't get me wrong, bear down will forever be the anthem, but i just kinda liked looking at some of the games this season that got us HERE.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    True dat cat. I enjoyed the video and song, but it would never be an anthem. Leave it to Chris Harris to generate enough buzz to get a fan to create that. He's like the anti-Moose Muhammad twitter/local media mogul of this current squad. Thank God he hasn't taken to tweeting on the sidelines though.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    haha! i actually won tickets to the bears/vikings game at soldier through another little competition he had for who could sing "bear down" the best. I had my entire classroom of 7th grade packer fans sing BEAR DOWN... i won the tickets, but needless to say i had some angry parents :)

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Fabulous! Get them while they're young, and they'll forever be Bears fans!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I've definitely gotten a handful converted already. Although, the packers are making it easy for me this year.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I say we need to take care of business sunday. A loss to Green Bay would be more deflating than motivating and would be too reminiscent of 06. The Fudgers' offseason starts sunday.

    The calls for McCarthy's firing will go through the entire offseason and possibly the lockout non-season. Their fans think McCarthy is as bad as Childress, McDaniels, et al. - they haven't experienced a truly bad coach yet but hopefully that will change, starting with their crushing defeat sunday.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    does anyone else feel a little weird about not having a go to wide receiver and we had him and then released him after he was pretty much the best receiver on the team? Brandon Lloyd? Most yards in the league Brandon Lloyd? Weird.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    He's a little bitch.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    most tier 1 receivers are

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Anybody know the condition of Bennett's ankle?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm getting blanked on this too GP. I think these bloggers are all on the Bears medical staff and we've tumbled them.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I don't think he would have been called if he didn't actually grab and pull down on the facemask of the defender. If he just pushed off the facemask it would have been your usual stiff arm. His fingers got caught up and I think it was a good call.

    And YES I am INSANE. I insanely HATE the pack and that's why we need to play them to win. As others have said, if it starts getting ugly and we're getting blown out then yes, I agree, pull some key starters.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That was a shame. I think we have another one on Shabba, but he's stuck int hat shithouse with Dez.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    A new one? The Bears anthem should be DMX - My Niggaz. Imagine that being pumped out at Soldier Field.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Might also have to do with the fact that Brett was never in the game.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    i think Shiancoe caught the long pass, took a huge hit and on his hands and knees started barking like a dog. please tell me he did that.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    If the vikes are going to win this, they will need to go up by at least 21. At some point at time Vick will wake up.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    Checked out your recent comments. No nonsense, all Bears, all Football. I likey.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    just glad there's a venue for it

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Just finished watching the Philly-Vikes game...and....
    Oh-ho-ho-heeeeee-hahahahahahahahaha-hoooooooohahahahaha-heeheeheeeheeeeee

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Wait, since I'm evidently getting whatever I wish for - I'd like an order of world peace followed by a side of truffle mashed potatoes.

    Oh, and a Super Bowl win for the Bears over the Patriots. If once was good, twice should be better.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The first week of DBB fantasy championship is 98-97...FQD, looked like Mr. Vick was a little dinged up in the 4th quarter, but I have a feeling this last weekend will be one for the ages.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And you won Round 1 in FF.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Here's your answer boys. The Bears will play to beat the Cheese.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/21810/bbao-would-bears-really-help-packers

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Question:

    Has anyone EVER seen a QB get flagged for face masking before?
    WHILE he had the ball?

    I am probably thinking some QB did it during a pick 6 runback, but I can't remember ever seeing a QB face mask while holding the ball before...

    That King kid is scrappy as hell.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No but I was surprised how bad the Eagle's D played last night. Seemed like they came out with a spark but fizzled early and didn't know how to contain the Kid.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Eagles missed Stuart Bradley in the middle.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Give me a rematch with the Colts, we don't the Pats anything. Bouncing Manning's turtle-head off astro-turf. Woot! Woot!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks MB. One of the reasons I knew this was the right blog for me was all the Mike Brown love and avatars, so I know you got your head and heart in the right place. When it comes to replacing anyone high up in the organization-from a star player all the way to GM-is that you don't just replace for the sake of it. I wouldn't mind replacing Angelo with Bill Polian, but how realistic is that?
    I know a lot of Philly fans who complained about Reid and McNabb for years to which I would reply - who exactly do you think you can get to replace them that will make you appreciably better.

    On your last point - too right!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Buck, are you me?

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Man wishes to be confirmed in his being by man, and wishes to have a presence in the being of the other

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Did you actually *quote* that palaver, or was it the product of a drunken fugue?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    That is a series of quotes from I and Thou. Sorry I'm a Philosophy nerd.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I have a degree in Philosophy. You are me. Fuck.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    ha!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    WTF?

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    MB is me. We're twins.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Will you give him credit for Robbie Gould? Or was he a "lucky" one?

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Favre inactive tonight. Even for a nationally televised game! The announcers will find a way to talk about him incessantly I'm sure. Dunno if AP is in or out.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    yes, damn it. Luck...

    Now get your fucking barkalounger off my amygdala for fuck sake.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Robbie is the man.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Upon Further Review......

    THE BEARS STILL SUCK

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M0lC5e4YGk&feature=related

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Look kids a cheese troll! We thought they were long extinct, seldom seen or heard in past months. But look right here. You can identify said cheese trolls by their statements of complete unoriginality combined with illogical statements and an uncanny ability to ignore reality.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Get your liver-spotted hands off my beautiful mother, you geriatric fuck.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Release the crack and then summon the gods
    I defeated Zeus and Thor, now they want more
    I call on the rains so now let it pour
    To soften up the ground so I can bury the gore
    Book me for a show son, send me on tour
    Where niggaz are fair game up in the airplane
    I'll battle everybody aisles A through Z on the free
    But none of them are fuckin with me
    Watch how I maneuver this
    Hype rhyme past the stewardess
    Without her even noticing
    Yes, I found an opening
    You lost cause you weren't focusing
    Now your dome's hot and smoldering
    Open up the hatch so I can drop out the cargo
    Cause I'm known to blaze stars just like the argo
    These rhymes are going far beyond your belief
    I'm like the Golden Child: each and every day I eat a leaf
    Gimme the wreath, I'll have a feast
    Gain knowledge of self then I plan to conquer the beats
    And I'll build back your mental piece by piece
    Giving brand new life to the mentally deceased
    But after this the situation gets truly hazardous
    Torturous, disasterous
    Imagine this: experiencing hell right after bliss
    In this experiment I'm the catalyst
    Welcome to the realms where money is God
    And they tamper with your brain 'til you're a spiritual fraud
    As you focus on these words and enter the mind state
    I slow down your pulse then increase the rhyme rate
    Fall into deep psychosis, what's the prognosis?
    Osmosis: underwater diffusion
    Welcome to the realms of liquid illusion
    Where stationary things appear to be movin
    Look at your speedometer, how fast are you cruisin?
    Thoughts race, images flash, you're gonna crash
    But maintain your focus and move with agility
    Cause Mr. Lif has broken out the heavy artillery

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Now let's talk about self expression, true expression
    Open your minds without question
    No doubt, tell me what you're thinking about
    Let's try to set aside pride and clout
    Can you believe I feel the same exact way you do?
    You truly do believe these modern ways have fooled you

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I dub thee "Poet Laureate" of DA BLOG

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Dont feed it. I'M WARNING YOU

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    love it Dave. You know the troll becomes stronger when given validation. it is better to ignore and make the troll realize it has very little relevance in this world. it is also fun to break down the source of the troll's anger and pain like a head doctor would.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This is a classic case of passive-aggressive troll feeding.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    GP is Aquaman. New Musical - Aquaman - at the Shedd?

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Curtain draws back, reveals giant 100,000 gallon tank lit from below. Spotlight on podium.

    Cue opening number, "That's on me"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFFjSeWGNOM

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Another Packer troll who apparently can't read:

    NO COWARDS ALLOWED, Cheesy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Chester just needs more looks.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A couple quick retorts and then I'm done until the offseason. Trac is right. This is bad Juju to talk shop when the playoffs haven't even started.

    1. We didn't have 1st or 2nd round picks for a few of those years I listed due to Cutler trade and trading down a couple times. This is an excellent strategy because it significantly reduces your cap risk. So many 1st round players are busts that the huge up front investment kills the franchise long term. For teams like the Lions (who are just now coming out of the 7th level of Millen Hell) that get repeated busts in the top 10 picks it is a vicious cycle that is hard to escape.

    There is no such thing as a team picking winners in the first round every year. But if you can get an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick out of your first round via trade then you significantly diminish salary cap risk.

    2. About the core players. The Briggs deal, you may remember, drew significant blow back. We had to let Berrian go that offseason. So, yes keeping Briggs was a strategic move. Briggs was just entering his prime and was a mere prophetic whisper of his current Pro Bowl self. Berrian looked to be the equivalent on the offensive side. You can't keep everyone, so keeping the right ones is a strategic move. Would anyone have complained (other than Lach) if we decided to not extend 54 with the observed decline he was on two years ago? I am so glad we did right now, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought 54's best years were behind him (After this season we know that he still has 1 or 2 more Prime years left). Same goes for free agent pick ups. Just ask the Redskins about the Haynesworth deal. Every offseason has 1 or 2 sure fire Free Agents. Only nothing is a sure thing. Cutler and Peppers are proof positive of that. How many people said during or after last year that Cutler needed Brandon Marshall? How do the Dolphins feel about that pick up? You have to pick and choose your battles in the salary cap era and Angelo has, more often than not, done that.

    Do the math every team has a 53 man roster. Every team chooses 6 or 7 players every year. The average NFL career is something like 3.7 years. Every single team is jettisoning draft busts every year. For the Bears to have 18 out of a possible 22 players on their (2010 playoff bound!) starting roster that they drafted themselves is pretty freaking amazing.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Very well put, Buck.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    New England are involved in the same drafts we are I think.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I love Ozzie Newsome, he is a top 3 GM in the league.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    +1. Ozzie has ALWAYS been a class act.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    4 more minutes....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB you and I think alike when it comes to JA. I'll wait until the off season to rant. For me the bottom line for drafts is you have to hit in the first 3 rounds and the rest is gravy. JA is good at the gravy, not so good with the meat and potatoes. One other thing, JA picked Briggs (good job there) but he would have lost him to SF if they hadn't tampered.

    One thing nobody talks about with FA's is most of them want to be here. I know most of you aren't too impressed with Lovie but the players would do most anything for him. It seems his rep around the league is good among the players and a lot of them would sign with us if everything else is equal. Peppers wanted to play here. Granted he broke the bank but he wanted to be here.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I agree for the most part Canada. I think Angelo is more a victim of bad luck than bad drafting. Most of his first and second round picks are supported by the facts and the experts and rankings. It isn't like he is stretching. Some times he makes a grab at a little known player the team is high on, and he has hit some home runs with those picks. He gets the picks signed before camp, he has done well in the FA market. He did get Cutler, and at that time we wanted to give him a life time contract. He may not be what we all want him to be, just like we all called for Lovies head at the end of last season. He's gotten us good enough personnel that most of us believe we have a shot at the big game. I'm not so sure we should jump off that wagon. IMO

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Exactly, on Peppers. Who's prepared to put all their eggs in one basket on a player that will give you two years - maybe - at the expense of hiring multiple younger players who will help you for years to come. Angelo knew he was on the edge of a precipice and did exactly that with Peppers. If ewe don't get a Lombardi then Peppers was a bad move and cost us for years to come. Ditto Cutler.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    2009 busts...

    Jarron Gilbert(3)
    Iglesias(3)

    2008

    Williams (1)

    2007

    Bazuin(2)
    Wolf(3)
    Okwo(3)

    2006

    Dvoracek (3)

    2005

    Benson (1)
    Bradley (2)

    2004

    Harris?(1)
    Tank (2)
    Berrian?(3)

    2003

    Haynes (1)
    GROSSMAN (1)

    2002

    Colombo(1)
    Roosevelt Williams (2)

    2001

    Terrell (1)
    Gandy (2)
    Thomas (3)

    And that's only the first three rounds, and who among us doubts that if Angelo would have owned 1st round picks the last two years, this list would not be longer?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    This doesn't even account for who the bears COULD have chosen at the very same position, or neglecting the oline, safety, cb, wr, qb etc...and let's face it, we won the lottery with Cutler and Peppers...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Oh that's a whole different ball game when you start picking the pro bowlers out of the possibles. Best not to.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    The problem with this "we won the lottery" notion is that there are 29 other football teams that could have made the deal that did not get it fucking done. If your third grader can make the trade, isn't that a testament to how good Angelo is as opposed to the other 31 GMs out there? He got it done. Isn't that enough?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    The problem with sitting players is deciding who to sit. There will have to be some starters or players that are vital to our depth in the playoffs that will have to play and my biggest concern would be incidental injuries that occur to a players like Chester Taylor because the Packers LB's start teeing off on who ever plays. It will be a delicate balance no matter what Lovie decides to do and I think the negatives could play out either way.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think because this Bears team is a chemistry team, it's probably important to just play the whole team in Lambeau. If the game gets lopsided either way, pull Cutler and use Hanie to finish. He's the one we need to protect, everyone else can play. Even Hester.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Assuming Atlanta beats the worst team in the league at noon on Sunday, we should rest our starters against green bay. Why show our hand to a team we could end up playing in the playoffs? Why risk injury?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    This is the most sound argument for resting starters. Avoiding injury is huge, but injuries are so unpredictable. If you play every starter full scheme ahead then you are guaranteed to tip your hand for a possible 3rd matchup. However, I think I would rather play GB in the playoffs than the Giants again. Say what you will about them, but the Giants are the team most well suited for cold weather post season runs. If Bradshaw ever figures how to not fumble and Eli pulls his head out of his butt they will be in every game they play. Beating GB almost guarantees the G men will be in the playoffs. Atlanta on the road and New Orleans at home just don't scare me after what I saw Monday night.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Assumptions. Who's to say Atlanta doesn't rest their starters? No team int he NFL is unbeatable.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think the Bears should use this game against Green Bay to run some counter intelligence interference for whoever they play in 2 1/2 weeks. Maybe even try to tee off on Rogers if he starts.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'm going to prognosticate and say the first Bears playoff game will be against the Saints. Can we beat the Saints at home?

    I don't know. We should be able to, but Brees and company can score and spread the ball out in 3WR sets, and we've shown in the last three weeks that a spread out passing offense will kill us, esp. with good TEs that can block and hit the seams. The Saints have that.

    Antione Winfield had a field day with the nickel/corner blitz last night. We better have Smurf Moore or somebody ready to throw them some curveball blitzes or we're fucked against the Saints O and will have a Jets-like shootout with them.

    We can't worry if it's smarter to send GB into play Philly, we should try and win the game and keep the team chemistry together, esp. since so MUCH of this team is based on timing and repetition of go-to plays in game situations. Honestly, the Bears need the practice. So play all starters in GB unless we start getting blown out. Then you can pull Cutler and maybe Pep and Child Support.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The last time we lost to the saints Dick Jauron was the coach. In the Lovie era we have gone 20-17, 39-14, 33-25, and 20-17 in overtime. Saints=DEAD

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Isn't Khalil Bell on the squad? Garret Wolfe? Throw Asiata Louis and the rest out there at some stage and let them play for their supper.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Not all of those picks were busts from an ability or talent standpoint. More than a few of them had personal problems that I don't think you can pin on the GM. What you can get upset with is how long it took for Jerry to run some of them out of town.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It starts at the top gents. Until 2 or 3 generations of trust fund babies pulls their heads out of Ginny's lock box and get themselves real jobs, the Bears will always be who we have come to know them as. Coulda shoulda woulda be's. Oh we may have a year or two of Glory here and there, but I say sell the team to Bill Murray or Michael Jordan if you want to have a perennial football powerhouse in Chicago.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    100% trac about the mcCaskey's trac... but we get a good GM and we're a much better team every year without a doubt trac.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's kind of like saying that it would be sunny if there weren't any clouds in the sky.
    Huh? Sorry.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    don't get it?

    while the McC's thing is 100% spot on, it's never going to happen in our lifetime... so the next best thing is.........?

    Get a GM who knows wtf he's doing.

    Didn't understand the cloud analogy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The huh? Sorry was for me after reading my post MB. Forget about it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Jordan was part owner of the Wizards, and they sucked. Now he owns the Bobcats and they really suck. All that in his own sport. Bite your tongue Trac, we dont want Michael owning the Bears.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Or a combination of Bill, MJ ... and US !!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'm not expecting Angelo to be Nostradamus Trac, but DANG, those are some BIG swing and misses...

    I'd rather have consistence than the occasional diamond in the ruff find.

    Most GMS get fired for drafting the wrong QB alone...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Bellicheat makes the same mistakes but he's able to recognize them fast enough to peddle them off to other teams for draft picks before anyone else catches on.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    exactly.

    Bellicheat = great strategic mind.

    Jerry = monkey.

    I'm willing to keep Angelo if we can get a coach like BB to take over the drafting and personnel moves.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Monkeys are smart MB !

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Cutting your losses at the right time, and even benefitting from them = genius.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Before I address your list you really have to distinguish between a bust and an underperformer. Tommie Harris pre-injury was not a bust. He wasn't a bust until after his first extension. Now he's just an underperformer.

    Agree on 2009 busts, but like I said before 3rd round busts are better than 1st rounders and everyone has busts - I repeat - everyone!

    2008 bust agreed

    2007 - Bazuin and Okwo agreed
    Garret Wolfe is an underperformer (if he was a 4th or 5th rounder who would complain, the guy is a beast on special teams)

    2006 - I have to take issue with. the guy had the worst injury luck imaginable. Who here would diminish the great Mike Brown for his injury luck. Just because Dusty didn't see much play time doesn't mean he wasn't beastly when he did - and he was.

    2005 - This is the offseason that cost us the post Super Bowl seasons. Draft an O-Lineman with the number 4 pick and this would be a dynastic team we are talking about. But on the other hand I don't think we pick up Forte if Jones is still on the roster either.

    2004 - Tank Agreed

    2003 - I will catch so much hell for this, but Grossman was on the 2006 Super Bowl Roster. Who would we have if he didn't start in 2006? And who would we have now if not for him filling the gap until Cutler came. Name me another GM who hasn't ever picked up a mediocre QB in the early rounds.

    2002 - Colombo - Injury luck and current underperformer with the Cowgirls.

    2001 - A-Train underperformed in years two and three. But look at the RB before Angelo's tenure (Salaam and Enis anyone?)

  • In reply to buckbear:

    well said, buck. I was hoping someone would come to the defense of dusty d. He would have been a BEAST if it weren't for injuries - again, that you can't pin on the GM.

  • In reply to bearsinwi:

    And nobody ever did.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Doc -

    During the Childress / Favre -Danse Fantastique - I read the Vikings Blog. The attacks on anyone opposed to keeping Childress, for example, were vicious.

    I did not have the temerity or chutzpah to log in and make any comments,remarks, sarcastic quips as a Bears fan.

    Why must we suffer the troll(s) here regardless of their supposed sincerity for a meaningful conversation?

    One other question: Why do so many here refer to Sports Illustrated in their links and references? Aren't ESPN and Sports Illustrated corporate wonks "trolling" for the east coast population sales.

    They look on the midwest as merely a source of revenue for their subscriptions - shilling chintzy jackets and other doofy vinyl merchandise.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    It's all part of that NY perspective:

    http://bigthink.com/ideas/21121

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Freedom of speech springs to mind Jack .. no?

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Whoa. Rex Grossman was on the 2006 roster ... and ...?

    For me, the story of the Bears will always be Rex and his six turnovers against Arizona ... and we still won. Urlacher and Hester thinking "F-you Grossman .. .watch this dumb-ass!"

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish...I knew I would catch hell for he Grossman thing. But facts are facts. Picking and developing an above average QB is the hardest scouting/coaching job in pro sports. Case in point is your beloved Patriots. Who was willing to pick Brady before the Patriots...NOBODY! Zero. He was dangersously close to being Mr. Irrelevant in his draft class. There are no sure things with picking and developing QBs. Rex had about the value of Trent Dilfer to the Ravens in their Super Bowl year. meaning their was a high correlation between Rex Grossman starts and wins. But as you may know correlation does not equal causation. At the same time who were we supposed to get to replace him?
    The Cutler deal is so unusual because, like him or not, he is potentially a top 10 QB in the league. No one ever lets a top 10 QB go that early in their career unless their name is McDaniels. Look at who else that coach let go then look at where he is now. Not a fan of sexy Rexy just willing to admit that he was responsible for some of the great and the terrible moments of the 2006 season.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I don't think anyone would want to fire a GM for picking Sex Cannon - he could have gone either way to be honest. it's the rest of the dirt he's brought on board - or more correctly, failed to *keep* on board. There were certainly a few good players picked in those early rounds. Character seems to be a problem with Angelo. You can't recognise it in another if you don't have it in yourself. He just comes across as one of life's bullshitters. My $0.02.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Jeeez 85, so many of those players not busts. Only a couple of them would be considered a stretch pick. Most were consensus picks at the spot chosen. Look at Gandy, 9 seasons played and started 106 of 108 games. Columbo has started for Dallas since they picked him up. Grossman was qb the season we got to the super bowl,nuff said Harris Tank and Berrian, all still playing in the NFL. Benson starting for the Bengals. Bradley got hurt and never the same. Dusty hurt but played well till then. Williams was a third rounder and considered one of the top 5 corners in the draft. Bauzin Gilbert an Haynes, Stretch picks and total busts.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    The draft is SUCH a crapshoot. Remember all the furor over Mario Williams vs. Reggie Bush as the #1 pick?

    Would you spend a #1 on EITHER of those guys based on their careers to date?

    Meanwhile Tom brady goes in, what? Round 5? Tony Romo is UNdrafted.
    Etc., etc., etc.

    Starter or not, Columbo got his clock cleaned for most of last Sunday.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Tommie Harris a bust? That is crazy talk. He was the best DT in football until his knee blew out. The Bears may have won that Super Bowl if Harris and Brown didn't get hurt at the end of the season. The defense was on pace to break the 16 game scoring record until they got hurt.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Game just started but I get the sense it's gonna be a blood bath tonight. Eagles look charged up.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Looks can be deceiving (he said, with perfect 20-20 hindsight).

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Columbo etc. playing well for other teams doesn't help us much Murph - and have to qualify as busts.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Those 2 #1 = Jay Cutler.

    No Jay Cutler at QB and the Bears aren't even a .500 ballclub.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    No doubt.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Check your math Al, 2 #1s, a #3 AND Kyle Orton. One could argue Cutler lost games single-handedly for us last year - a lot of them. I'm not saying I don't want Cutler - but I believe we'd have the same record this year as we do now with Kyle, Plus we'd have had a first round pick these last two years and a third. There;'s our two guards/two tackles, guard/tackle and a big wide receiver right there. Plus the same record in all likelihood. So do we want the same results and a weaker roster just to have a QB from a place called Santa Claus ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    No, we wouldn't have and that's bonkers. There are just as many misses on high-round O linemen as there are with any other position. Jesus, look at the front line for the Vikings. Those are all high round picks and they've done jack and shit this year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They beat the Eagles ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I stand by my statement. The Bears are no better than .500 with K.O. instead of Orton who does not possess the mobility to survive behind the Chicago O-Line.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Punting, down by ten with under 5 to go.

    Deeper and deeper, Eagles.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    No love for Angelo for acquiring Cutler?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The jury doesn't adjourn for a few years yet ... time will tell if Cutler is greater than Orton plus three very high picks. Only time. Arguing about it now is pointless.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Please keep the Eagles in check. If the Bears beat the Pack with nothing to play for it would just be the best possible scenario to end this fantasy tale of a season.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    totally off topic, but does AP look exactly like Dr. Turk... or is that just me: http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/donald-faison-as-turk.jpg

  • In reply to buckbear:

    well...to put the Pack out of the playoffs is PLENTY to play for. as Lovie said: "beat the Packers."

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Holy shit boys, 1st round bye?? Who would of thunk it?!?!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    I seriously cannot believe that the Vikes are going to do us a solid and hand us the #2 seed right here. I also can't believe, though I understand the possible thinking, that Lovie stated ALREADY that he's gonna play everybody against the pack. Maybe it's best that we knock them out now instead of giving them a shot in the playoffs, and that thinking holds up until we lose somebody in the 3rd quarter that we can't replace. I can't wait to see how it shakes out.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Tick...tick...tick.

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Hey The Big Frumunder...
    nice fuckdodgers didn't get picked for the ProBowl...

    oh btw blog I love beating the Hornets Nest!!!

  • In reply to buckbear:

    Again, we lost Jamar Williams (young) to get back a player he had already drafted (old). Bad move. And that's a pretty piss poor list of players you mention as being his hits versus the amount of crap he's drafted. Zack Bowman isn't even a starter.

    And you can't say "...but he's excellent in the later rounds." Whoa. It's the EARLY rounds that are *crucial* - and much more expensive to whiff on. Pro-bowls are populated by first round draft picks 95%+ of the time. Check it out. Saying he's good int he alter rounds translates as "..sucks where it counts ..." - hardly an argument. Here's the reality of how much of a cancer he's been to our Bears :

    First Draft...2002

    1. Marc Colombo 2. Roe Williams 3. Terrance Metcalf. 4. Alex Brown. 5. Bobby Gray. 5. Bryan Knight. 6. Adrian Peterson. 6. Jamin Elliott. 6. Bryan Fletcher.

    Second Draft 2003

    1a. Michael Haynes (could have drafted Troy Polamalu, Dallas Clark or Larry Johnson 1b. Rex Grossman.
    2. Charles Tillman. 3. Lance Briggs. 4. Todd Johnson.
    4. Ian Scott.5. Bobby Wade. 5. Justin Gage. 5. Tron LaFavor. 6. Joe Odom. 6. Brock Forsey. 7. Bryan Anderson.

    Third draft 2004

    1. Tommie Harris. 2. Tank Johnson. 3. Bernard Berrian.
    4. Nate Vasher. 4. Joe Leon. 5. Claude Harriott.
    5. Craig Krenzel. 7. Alfonso Marshall.

    Fourth draft 2005

    1. Ced Benson (Could have picked Cadillac Williams, Jamal Brown, Derrick Johnson, DeMarcus Ware or Shawne Merriman)
    2. Mark Bradley.4. Kyle Orton.
    5. Airese Currie. 6. Chris Harris. 7. Rod Wilson.

    Fifth Draft 2006

    2. Danieal Manning. 2. Devin Hester. 3. Dusty Dvoracek.
    4. Jamar Williams. 5. Mark Anderson. 6. JD Runnels.
    6. Tyler Reed.

    Sixth Draft 2007

    1. Greg Olsen. 2. Dan Bazuin. 3. Garret Wolfe.
    Michael Okwo Josh Beekman Kevin Payne Corey Graham
    Trumaine McBride Aaron Brant

    Seventh draft 2008

    1. Chris Williams 2. Matt Forte. 3. Earl Bennett.
    Marcus Harrison Craig Steltz Zack Bowman Kellen Davis
    Ervin Baldwin Chester Adams Joey Laroque Kirk Barton
    Marcus Monk

    Eighth Draft 2009

    Jarron Gilbert Juaquin Iglesias Henry Melton D.J. Moore
    Colin Brown Johnny Knox Al Afalava Lance Louis Derek Kinder

    Impressive?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    This needs to be shouted ...
    JERRY ANGELO IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTLER !!!

    Kyle Orton being on our roster was.

    How many years has Julius got left?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Come to think of it - where the hell has the myth come from that he's successful in the later rounds? Urban. Myth. People repeating what they've read ont he web without actual investigation of the truth. I see Corey Graham - a special teamer. Adrian Petersen at a push. Johnny Knox has pretty good potential if he can get tougher and pumps some iron. He's good in the later rounds? Where?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jerry Angelo drafted Kyle Orton.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Touche.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Who will jack over his team in FF by sitting out?

    Cutty for MBHP?
    Dwayne Bowe for FQD?

    I think that Bowe is more likely to sit with Cassell.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Actually, I think FQD is going to get royally screwed by Philly.
    They have no reason to play Vick next week, and every reason to get Kolb snaps to showcase him.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    What is with the Jamar Williams love?

    He couldn't stay healthy enoough to have an impact in Chicago. He could start for Carolina where he wound up on I.R anyway.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    In one game where he was given the start and told "show us what you can do son." - he singlehandly coralled Steven Jackson. I think about 13 of his 18 or 19 tackles(!) in that game were on Jackson. That's awesome.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Does anyone know if PT will start this week?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    he better, we need our best effort on Sunday. he was active last week.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    If the Vikings give me an early birthday present and beat the Eagles tonight, I don't even know if he'd play vs. Packers.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP, when's the big day... mine's very soon after new years. I'm praying for a Sunday night gift. I get that one, and that's all I need... from anyone.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Feb. 2nd - the big 3-6.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    that will prob be a game time decision, Trac. He played a little in the last game, but I'm not sure if he was in just to get reps, or out cuz he aggregated his injury...

    Luckily for us, the Eagles, Saints, Falcons play before us, and we got moved to the later hours, which should dictate a lot of who plays.

    We might even see some Collins...YIKES!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    reaggravated...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    They're lucky anyone still shows up to BOO...1-7...sheeeeeeeeesh.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    It was sad to watch Vasher's skills erode so quickly and drastically his last couple of seasons with the Bears.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Option 3 Blows Monkey Nutts!!!

    The Bears MUST win this Sunday..I don't care how they do it.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    Fudge fans hate McCarthy, at least the 3 that I know do. They say his first 15 scripted calls suck. Penalties also drove them nuts, but those have been cleaned up.

    If McCarthy really is an idiot, he will kick to Hester, but no one could be that stupid, right?

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    "I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was important -- like a league game." Dick Butkus.

    There u go! Peppers Destroy him.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    "Punish the Man", Dick Butkus.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    I really don't care how it's achieved, all I know is this gents...

    We have to beat these pitiful motherfuckers that are 2nd (1st losers) in our division and are only 9-6 to our 11-4 (that should be 13-2). Look, we've already bitch slapped these fagots once boys, and we're going to again this weekend (to sweep the North, and go 6-0 in the division).

    Those pansy-asses are in for second beating on Sunday, but I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe Woot can give Mr. Rogers a late Christmas present like he did the Brett Girl. I say the Bears fortunes continue well into February.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Woot, woot!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Narcissus admitted tonight that he was actully OUT COLD for 10 seconds after Wootton bagged him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sorry, the repaste from last thread lost the html markups...

    I really don't care how it's achieved, all I know is this gents...

    We have to beat these pitiful motherfuckers that are 2nd (1st losers) in our division and are only 9-6 to our 11-4 (that should be 13-2). Look, we've already bitch slapped these fagots once boys, and we're going to again this weekend (to sweep the North, and go 6-0 in the division).

    Those pansy-asses are in for second beating on Sunday, but I

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Audibles from the Long Snapper - Just a brilliant name for a weekly feature. I'll never forget that play from the opener last year. I nearly whipped my beer at my television.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    SMH... All bad coach. Thy shall not abuse thy TV. I almost smashed my tv and ran through a wall on our first game against the Lions. But Thy learns Anger Management.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Blitz EVERYONE and sack Rogers on the first series giving him an injury that takes him out. "This is my Greenbay Christmas wish."

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    I would prefer 4 INTs, 8 sacks, and a Bears shutout.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Your hypothesis about the status of the current regime would SEEM to be sound, Blogfather.

    On the other hand, I believe this IS the organization that first extended Dick Jauron and THEN hired a new GM (Angelo) in the same off-season?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    As you may or may not know, Al, I'm am a fan of JA. The fact that he is still getting his job done makes me happy for the future of our team.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Viva,

    You are a smart guy, I've seen the proof right here. I honestly don't get this man. You can't keep posting shit like that and expect me not to take a big 'ol bit... hook line and sinker.

    What in THEE fuck are you talking about boy!? Please sweet baby jesus enlighten me... right now.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My #1 beef with Angelo is he can't draft for shit. It's like he's throwing darts at the draft board. Hopefully with a all of our picks and with 4 head coaches on staff, things will turn around on draft day. Or just lock Angelo in a closet during the draft.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    exactly Joe. Exactly

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Joseph your picture is the shit. Could you see Mr Rogers flying on today's tv? Hell no. The powers that be would search his hard drive after his first episode and it would be over. Who doesn't think that guy was a pederass?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pederass

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    nice

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Definition #2 is the bomb.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Offseason.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    weak

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm so in your head.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I know, it's so depressing. You've even set up your cheap beige pool furniture on the veranda of my conscious.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You rock!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm done on the Angelo thing. I should have written everything on a big ol' website with zettabytes of storage - but when you add it all up and look at it you just have to wonder how the fuck he still has a job.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I've heard rumors about Angelo retiring after next year. These rumors give me a boner

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    +1 coach

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    -2, Coach. (I know. I'm Jerry Angelo.)

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    All I will say in Angelo's defense (and it might be Phillips anyway) is that he does not screw around signing new players. I think that lack of distraction is a good thing.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Don't sell that concept short, either. Out here, The Cardinals consistently have issues signing draft picks and end up pissing away crucial camp time.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    CLIFF STEIN IS THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS!

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Didn't he/doesn't he manage Metallica?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    He's really fast at signing his crappy random draft picks, I'll give him that.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    My point was not a slam at Angelo, but the crack-brained concept of signing a coach KNOWING you're going to hire a new GM and thus, saddle that GM with a head coach he may not want. All to typical McCaskeyism.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm going with The Bears win it all and the Eagles never win another game ever. That's my perfect scenario.

  • In reply to sjvl:

    Just for the Philly fans!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Each and every one of those assholes.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Packers%20Suck

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sweet. EVERYONE GO THERE AND CLICK THE UPWARD THUMB! Sorry, don't shout much here, but this one is worth it.

  • Some wanted a WR, Doc! Remember that? And some even thought Urlacher should be replaced this season...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    We *do* need a WR, what gives? Who gets our jump balls? We don't have a HUGE part of the passing game right there. We're missing a piece of the Jigsaw. I know the Pats don't have big receivers, but they have an o-line and good receivers and Tom Brady and Bill Belichek.

    Never could understand any fans turning their back on Brian though. I guess they were Handbag Hillenmeyer fans.

  • The Phrozen - as sung by Phrozenturd

    Some people call me the cock cowboy yeah
    Some call me the gangster of Movie
    Some people call me Maurice
    Cause' I speak of the pompous of Lovie

    People talk about me baby
    Say I'm doin' it wrong, doin' it wrong
    But don't you worry baby don't worry
    Cause' I'm right here in my crawlspace

    Cause' I'm a ass picker
    I'm a shit grinner
    I'm a cock lover
    And I'm a chicken dinner
    playin' pocket pool in the sun
    I'm a Phrozen
    I'm a Dozin'
    I'm a prison Chosen
    I get my lovin' in the can
    Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh

    You're the fattest thing that I ever did see
    I really love your cheesehead
    Want to shake your tree
    Lovey dovey, lovey dovey, lovey dovey all the time
    Ooh wee mister, I sure show you a good time

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1

    Funny.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    A Steve Miller homage!

    Classic!

    He lives among my CDs.

    My favs: Swingtown, Jet Airliner and, of course, Take the Money & Run!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Cheesy go, sit on a curb in De Pere and weep for a lost season.

  • already asked that one doc. I think it's hiegher than that, but to be honest I won't even be thinking about anything packers at that point. They will be done and gone and we'll have much bigger, and better fish to fry in the playoffs.

  • Sorry, but his cowardice is already established, Doc, ergo he has forfeited his opportunity to engage in respectful discussion. He's PhrozentuRda with a mildly higher I.Q.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Addendum: His cowardly behavior is already established. Pursuant a minor retraction posted above.

  • HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Do not let up. Do not coast. Destroy the Packers. Play everybody. HELL YES!

    (...and go Ducks.)

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