The Bears Have Life

Quick turnaround for us and the site this week.  Here are my thoughts on yesterday's ultra-fulfilling contest.
  • Two mistakes cost this from being a masterpiece.  Chris Harris can't blow deep coverage on the Percy Harvin touchdown grab.  He has only one assignment on the play and Harvin was the only viable receiver on the Vikings roster yesterday.  And Jay Cutler can't throw the interception in the end zone.  When the Bears get down around the goalline, Martz needs to let Jay improvise less.
  • Lovie Smith and his entire coaching staff had a hell of a day, starting with the about-time decision to move Devin Hester to kickoff returns.  We shouldn't give Lovie too much credit for admitting his two-year mistake but we should applaud him for abandoning the stubborness that has marred his tenure.
  • Olin Kreutz looks old whenever he is required to pull to the outside but he can't commit two (two!) careless, nearly drive-killing penalties for no reason.
  • J'Marcus Webb is going to be very good.
  • I think Chris Williams is not.
  • If Johnny Knox were six inches taller, he could be the best receiver in the league.  But both he and Devin Hester need to learn how to come back for the football.
  • And I give Lovie Smith a lot of credit for the development of Israel Idonije, who has become a bonafide defensive end in this league.
  • Henry Melton and Matt Toeaina just make plays.
  • Tommie Harris is good at recovering fumbles.  That's the best thing I can say about him.
  • 51 yards rushing for AP?  You'd need to make quite an argument for me to believe we don't have the best linebackers around.
  • Something about wearing #30 for the Bears, perhaps, because DJ Moore is always around the ball.
  • It warmed my heart to see Rashied Davis and Corey Graham make big plays on special teams.  It dropped my jaw to see Rashied Davis make a catch in a big spot.
  • Don't be fooled by his one terrific strike.  Brad Maynard is having a terrible season.
  • Robbie Gould being inconsistent is not something I like.
  • Outside of the end zone pick, Jay Cutler showed yesterday why he can be one of the elite quarterbacks in the league.  It's always been said that he needs to be coached and the Bears seem to be coaching him these past couple weeks.

The Chicago Bears are in first place in the NFC North.  And the Vikings season is over.  Feels good, doesn't it?

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  • First!

  • Second win in a row feels good. Need to keep it up and kick Miami's ass this week. Think of it as a little piece of revenge for the '85 team.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A tiny, tiny, infinitessimally small, miniscule, teensy weensy, itty bitty measure of revenge, MB. Bastards. Buddy Ryan sucked in that game. Bastard.

  • Third win in a row this week. Miami is hurt, they will not be able to move on the ground against us.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    Dunno, I think we'll win, but this game scares me. It seems anything can happen on these Thursday games, I don't like having a short week to prep for the wildcat and I'm not convinced Thigpen is any worse than Miami's other QBs.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    Nothing on NFL.com or dolphins.com about injuries to any backs. Long has a sore knee but that appears to be it. Nobody can move it on the ground against us anyway. But with Thigpen hitting Marshall and Bess, or Fasano down the seam at CH ...

    Al Harris will have them clued in on Cutler and the receivers.

    Haven't seen their D play. Anybody? Statistically they give up 4 ypr, have only forced 2 fumbles on the ground (to the Bears' league-leading 9). Bu they don't allow any long runs (only 3 runs of 20+). Passing wise they have allowed the 6th fewest yards, QB ratings of 85. They don't sack the QB very much, one more than the Bears at 13 sacks on the season. Plus, they're better on the road than they are at home. It's winnable. We need to win it.

  • fourth? agree on J'Marcus Webb

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Disagree on Webb - unless he trims down and does a lot of speed work. Looks like he plays in slow motion when those pass rushers just blow by him. We don't have one quality player on the OL that has ticks in all the boxes. That's shocking.

  • Nice piece on the locker last thread GP.

    Boom: http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/19523/and-then-there-were-two

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bravo!

    Outside of maybe getting Leslie Frazier, most of those are dreams.

    The irony is - we cheer because the Bears are winning, but all of this means Lovie will be back.

    Butter and Omlette - will not.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, I know GP. Needed to go on record... again. I can actually live with lovie if I HAVE to, but angelo needs to go no matter what happens.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think my favorite call of the game was passing for the 1st down on 3rd and 5 with under 2 minutes and the Queens out of timeouts. Sure, we could have just run it into the line, burned some clock and punted it back with a minute left. We win either way, but this ensured* that Farve's last pass in Soldier Field was an interception. Beautiful.

    *I mean, really, no one is going to be dumb enough to put this clown of their roster next year, right?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Now you, lackless weekend warrior, can beat OchoStinko at his own game... and, in the comfort of your own livingroom: http://www.uncrate.com/men/entertainment/games/active-nfl-training-camp/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "And the Vikings season is over"

    Well, we have to hope they have enough life left in them to pull off the upset next Sunday.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    btw, if I can unofficially dedicate yesterdays rapturous win to my namesake. Mr. Michael Brown. Of course on his wikipedia page, which uniform is he wearing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Brown_(American_football)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Heck yeah. Wore his jersey all game too. Maybe that helped DJ Moore get his pick (almost 6)?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Go here and vote!

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/107996224.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiU9PmP:QiUiacyKU7DYaGEP7vDEh7P:DiUs

    CHILDRESS' DECISIONS is leading when WE all KNWo it should be "FAVRE'S PLAY".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Favre actually played rather admirably....The fumble was really the only mistake he had. He fought pretty hard.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    I know the reciever slipped on that INT to Briggsy, but you gotta admit it wasn't the most well placed ball. That one was on Favre.

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    Admirable? dude honestly it baffles me by some of the shit you say. Admirable with three INTs and A fumble. Convertin only 1 third down. But yea it was admiable. But anyways where is your speech tell all of us that " this win dont matter, we still aint going nowhere "?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Obviously we're gonna want to put everything on favre. But you have to look at it objectively....he was up against it yesterday. He got hit hard, had no WRs, and the ones he did have were falling all over the place. Camarillo dropped a TD that would have absolutely changed the game....I thought cutler played pretty well, but his pick was unbelievable....just unbelievable. No excuses for that.

    This win was actually pretty impressive. I was actually gonna say it's ok to start getting a little excited....definitely the first impressive win this season, unless you count Carolina. I think home field advantage played a pretty big role, and the injuries have been on our side all season, but that's the NFL

  • In reply to brocklanders:

    if by "admirably" you mean "a 41 yr. old QB who should be at home sitting on a lawnmower than in an NFL pocket," then here here!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Today's Minniehaha Star Tribune:

    "Berrian, before the game, decided the groin problem that landed him on the injury report last Friday wouldn't allow him to play against his former team. But he informed the Vikings TOO LATE in the process and ATE UP A SPOT on the 45-man game-day roster."

    LOL! Bernard Berrian becomes more worthless by the second!

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/108047449.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUo8cyaiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dude, can't you just enjoy a victory? Maybe even see how the rest of the of the season shakes out before calling for everyone's head? They just played their best game of the year and here you are beeyatching about the ownership. I happen to agree with some of what you said, but you won't here that shit from me after OUR BEST GAME OF THE YEAR!

    postivity my friends!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Positivity indeed Coach. No one is gone unless we have a losing record, that includes JA. So, unless we go 1-6 the rest of the way, it's a futile argument. Virgina is not going to pay 2 sets of coaches and GMs, especially with the CBA uncertainty. Damn man, can't you just enjoy the most solid win of the year? 6-3. Tied for 2nd in the NFC.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Tied for First

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Not NFC North Fres, the entire NFC. The falcons are 7-2.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    And the Pack has to play them in the Dome.

    Falcons will win by a touchdown.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    They're untouchable in that place.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    No quit in Henry Melton. Did you guys see that play he ran down AP 10 0r 15 yards from the line of scrimmage. Based on the way he's been playing, there's no need to move Izzy to the 3-tech (especially b/c he's flourishing at end). Big Toe is getting into the backfield consistently too.

    Rashied can run sharp and scrappy fuckin routes.

    KD's first catch of the year is a TD. Lets keep him in the rotation. I give up on ManofMoolah. At this point, I'm calling that wasted money that could have gone to Boldin. The guy is slow, fat, and out of shape. When he goes in the hole to block, he never is able to find anyone to block even though there are multiple people around him. People easily shed off him, he is the worst reciever of the 4 TEs we have. Have KD take over his role. Martz has to bench his guy, even if it hurts his ego.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Im def. agree. Davis I believe should be out there more cathing balls. He is the most physical WR we have right now.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Manuemalua is a WASTE! Crown ur dead right on that guy. Kellen Davis has way more upside to him. Hopefully we see a benching soon.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I think I said that. I like Izzy at dend, he has performed well there. Melton can spell people or play DT. Toe is crazy.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    It would appear the Lovehammer has established his dominance over Mad Mikey Martz over the bye week. Another week of nearly balanced run/pass ratio. I almost gaurantee that Lovie told him he had to scale it back a bit, regardless of the company line.

    He's had a solid game plan the last two games. I especially liked the play action pass to Kellen Davis. The whole world though we were going to run on that play and then bam, 7ft Davis was wide open for the score. I think Martz is a great offensive mind, but he tends to get a little nutty without someone realing him in. Lovie busted out his pimp hand, and it is good.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Agreed that Martz was on a short leash yesterday. Everytime they showed the White Wizard, he was at least 5 feet from Lovie LD. It's amazing what just trying to run will do even if its not working.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Yes. Yes it is. You can't be one dimensional with your play calling in the NFL for sustained periods of time. You just can't.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Scrappy Sheed is the Charlie Hustle of football.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    And Kellen Davis with a TD pass - TE on the deep seam route. Good for him and for the o-line for protecting without all the TEs in helping.

    Cutler played big time, consistently took those 2-3 steps to buy himself a half extra second to make the throw. Something all great QBs do (and which Grossman never did).

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    By the way, that haiku thread was unbelievable. Great work by all who contributed.

    Proud Bears Fans Today
    Pringles Lays Dong On Table
    King Wang Poon Tonight

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Tim Jennings needs to do something on that TD to Harvin deep. Yes, C. Harris got beat up top and we all know he can be a liability with his lack of speed, but Jennings needs to bump Harvin within 5 yards or do something to throw him off his route rather than totally let him relaese on that play.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Jennings is a beast at run and screen pass support, but his coverage skills downfield are highly suspect. He hustles his ass off, though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm a big fan so far too GP. I still believe in Bowman, but its hard to take Jennings off the field the way he's been playin. And his recovery speed is better than Dan Jiggets on three viagra. LOL.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    a few thoughts of my own:

    1) On the broken-coverage TD, Peppers was being held. That doesn't excuse the coverage, but there were some blatantly bad calls on the line (including the phantom chop), and had that one been called right, that's one blemish on this game that we wouldn't be talking about.

    2) Henry Melton can play. I hope his time riding the pine last year wasn't a waste. The kid hustles, every down. Reminds me of Idonije that way.

    3) RD is a quality person; we know that. We also know that he's been a bubble-boy for a couple seasons, and not many fans would cry too much if he were waived. It's great to see him come up with some big (visible) plays, but honestly, he needs to do that more to justify his roster spot.

    4) Brad Childress is beyond stupid. He's in the Lovie-Zone. When Cutler threw his illegal forward pass, I saw Childress on the sideline, making the "decline" motion at the refs. Doesn't this idiot know fundamental football rules? At every level of play (high school, college, and pro), an illegal forward pass results in a loss of down. Obviously, Brad Clueless doesn't know this rule, otherwise he wouldn't have tried to decline the penalty. I think the refs should've allowed him to decline, and let Gould try the kick from 3 yards closer.

    4a) I'll admit that I didn't know that this penalty is enforced from the spot of the infraction. That needs to change, because if Cutler had made the throw from 6 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, does that give the offense a 1-yard gain? Even if there's a rule that you can't net yardage on a penalty, the fact that you don't get hit with at least 5 yards is a problem.

    5) Is DJ Moore the 2010 Nate Vasher? Both were undersized 4th-round picks with ballhawking skills.

    6) Yes, let's not pat Lovie on the back too hard for making the Hester move that everyone with a triple-digit IQ has been advocating for well over a year.

    7) Great offensive playcalling, but most of the run plays were shams--just keeping the defense honest, because the YPC was pretty awful.

    8) Cue Minny fans' whining that the Bears only lost because the Viking WR corps was gutted.

    9) Pisa is one of the unsung heroes of this season. On strong-side runs, he's taking on blockers like a NT and plugging up cutback lanes. Danieal Manning is playing like a genuine in-the-box SS, too, and if his tackling was a little surer, I'd say the Bears had found a position for the guy, long-term. Matt Toeina? I have yet to see him blow an assignment or get blown off the ball. These three guys are making the rest of the team look very good on running plays.

    10) Finally, Dave Toub needs more credit. Although Iwuh, Idonije (thankfully, the Fox crew noted that Idonije has made huge strides at DE while still being a wrecking-crew on ST), and Corey Graham as certified ST studs, I don't see the overall ST talent or a ST superstar like the Bears had back in the Ayanbadejo or Azumah days. Even Shaw would still be the biggest ST stud and would raise the overall talent level of the Bears ST at this point. The point is, Toub continues to do great things with the personnel he has. And a big return gets everyone fired up, and gives fear-boners to the opponent. So Toub should get more credit, and when the purge comes, whoever takes over (I'm lookin' at you, Leslie Frazier... you don't want the headache you'll be inheriting from Brad Clueless) needs to keep Toub.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm a big Jennings fan so far. Everything you said plus he's one of the best sure tacklers on the team. And his recovery speed is better than #16 on three viagra. LOL. It's a great Sunday when Dan Jiggets is drinking the kool-aid.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    To Blogfather's point:

    Kreutz is a junkyard dawg and all, but he should work on getting some inside push and watch the late shoves.

    I watched part of the Steelers/Pats game and saw that same stupid chop block shit. If you chop your man, there better not be a single team mate around to even THINK about touching him up high. Even if the guy is down AFTER getting chopped, and is trying to get up - if a different player pushes him back to the ground the flag is coming out.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    On that point - anybody remember when the offensive lineman for North Dallas, played by John Matsusak and Bo Svenson - get pissed after getting whooped again and again by the Peppers like d-lineman for Chicago? So they team chop him and break his leg?

    NDF - best football movie ever.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    More trivia:

    Svenson went on to play the head of the Good Ol' Boys in the Blues Brothers.

    Time for my B12 shot.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I get it FQ, if you read back you'll see how stoked I was. Awesome win, the kind of balanced full-team win we've all been begging for out of this team. It was really great to see. But that wasn't at all the point or focus of my post.

    My post was exactly about your comment: "but you have to play the deck you have"

    But every team doesn't just get dealt a brand new deck before every season, you have to build your hand through guile and intelligence, stragetic maneuvering

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i feel ya (and i was posting to the comment, didn't take into account your other posts). if we win this year, i'd let Lovie play out the rest of his contract....b/c lucky once? very likely. lucky twice? nah. next year will be a strong indicator as to how things will be from here on out

  • In reply to Crowned:

    It's on Harris ultimately. His zone. His space, Safety has it deep. Pringles promotion please.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I can't wait to win the picks contest (I have 3 victories), so as to write a column praising Jerry Angelo. I think most of you are missing the boat on him and look forward to changing your minds. (Yes, especially you, MB.)

    Jeff, I think you give too much credit to Lovie for his development of Izzy. I think the credit should go to Marinelli. Same same for the development of Big Toe, AA, and Oh Henry.

    Our LB's are remarkable. I remember the Singletary/Wilson/Marshall tandem, and the Holdman/Colvin/Urlacher tandem, and this one covers more ground and hits as hard. Studs. All of them.

    Rash has Minni's number, and a shitload of heart.

    Skunk was amazing. Wonder if the decision to put him in for the second half of the season was by design or desparation. Either way, he was a force multiplier.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Wow, missing the boat on Angelo. Really? He's been terrible with the draft picks and no matter if it's scouting people or whatever, in the end it his his responsiblity to do the evaluating and make the picks. If he's not than why would we want him anyways.

    But I do agree with you about Marinelli developing some of these guys. I also think Peppers is making the whole line look better though.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Tough sell Viva, even too the most glass is half full guys here.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I never understood the 'it's half-full' or 'it's half-empty' guys. It's *both* half-empty *and* half-full at the same time. Saying it's either/or is just blinkered. No?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The cup is just too damn big.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Martz actually caught me out on that KD touchdown. I actually said out loud, "oh fuck their stacked, this the dive to nowhere" - I really bought the handoff into the pile.

    KD didn't even try and fake the safety, he just took off like a shot. So wide open, the Vikes safety just stood there like it was the last thing he was expecting.

    That play made me LOL during a Bears game for the first time in a long time.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIFh92-vpyk

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Love that Lewinsky drop

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Even though dude looks like that emo hipster cake maker Duff, he actually is pretty damn good. Solid find MB.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    If by Duff you mean Moby, then yes.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    McNabb benched and fighting with the Shanahans one minute, then a 5 year 70 some million dollar extension for the aging QB the next.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I must be stupid, Crown, because SOMEBODY needs to explain that Redskin philosphy to me.
    whole

    Oh, wait.

    Now I remember.

    Dan Snyder.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    This is how I feel today. And no Trac, he's not an ugly girl.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21yFiTOTDt0

  • In reply to Crowned:

    40mil guaranteed.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    DBB is going to be a wild place the last week of the regular season. The Pack asshat brigade is gonna come full force.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP......
    when we bet the Fudgpackers at their home we will be bring the NFC North title home: we will sing this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JEjC24TeKg&feature=watch_response

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    What a time to be growing up with that music live everywhere. Lucky ass parents.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Watching the game last night I wondered if that

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    An attorney douche I have a particular hatred for is from Miami and a fish fan.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP... I may not live in Chi-Town any longer but I can make a call and have a relative pay a visit to Miami if needed....I'm just saying..

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    also forgot ...we can make him sleep with the fishes?? See how I did that?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Can you get him to call around to Angelo's with a claw hammer Lobo?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB....as for the melt down ...if people don't like it give you "OWN FUCKING OPINION!! again opinions are like assholes ..hey we all got one!!! I love the rant!!!

    and p.s....GP you have me wondering too!!! personal reasons????

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Stop apologising! Don't take the prozac! We want super bowls and we want them yesterday!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    not apologizing for my pov irish... just that i didn't make my argument based more on fact than emotion. could have been more eloquent.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good point. The line *is* playing better, they still suck, but the 3rd downs are getting converted and if that somehow continues then every week will be interesting. Love to see how we'll handle the Eagles ...

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Somebody on Total Access swore it smelled like Kyle benched McNabb, and daddy cleaned up his mess for him. Saying some very un-Mike Shanahan things. Jamie Dukes I think.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I keep seeing that scene in my head from Pretty Woman where Julia Roberts goes back to the ritzy boutique where the salesladies were bitchy to her, and she's got Richard Gere with her and tons of shopping bags, and she waves them in the air and says, "Big Mistake. HUGE."

    Right now, Michael Vick is Julia Roberts.

  • In reply to BearsChick:

    When did he become such a smart, complete QB? I know it's the Redskins but DAMN!!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    when he spent 21 months in prison. you learn to run fast when an undersexed, burly inmate is chasing you down

  • In reply to BearsChick:

    He already knew how to run fast and avoid big guys coming after him. He must have gotten the practice throwing soap from far away to beat back the onslaught.

  • In reply to BearsChick:

    And another regarding how the D played AP -- i.e. very little 8 man fronts. They played it pretty straight --

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-1116-pompei-film--20101115,0,7844667,full.column

    Also in Pompei's view Webb struggled, while Omiyale played well -- mostly in 1-on-1 (61% of the snaps) against Allen. Haven't watched the tape myself to confirm, but during the game I felt overall the line did a decent job.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Don't let the reality of the tape sway you. Omiyale must suck - everyone says it.

  • In reply to BearsChick:

    Mike Vick is an ex-convict who liked to strangle, shoot, drown, and bash the heads in of dogs that depended on him for food and shelter.

    He can fuck off from here until eternity. But sure, he's got lots in common with a Pygmalion rip-off.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think he should be forced to spend the rest of his life in an isolation cell watching a running tape of the Sarah Maclaughlin ASPCA commercial. But that's just me.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The shit people get 2nd chances after doing. Must be nice to be a rich celebrity with an entertaining talent.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    As I watch MNF all I can think is, oh wait, we LOST to the Redskins.

  • In reply to BearsChick:

    Definitely the worst loss of the year. Gave that game away.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In response to Jeff:

    1)I, like many other's, have been pleasantly surprised by our mighty midgets and our safety play, esp since Wright went down. That miscoverege from Harris, and that Megatron last NON-Catch vs the Lions, are really the only two plays where our coverage seemed to really break down. Other than that, they've been making teams dump it down, and relying on big hits, strips, and offensive mistakes to keep opposing teams out of the endzone. This results in a lot of passing yds, but only 6 passing tds, tied for least in the NFL. Also, I'm not sure if coaches can remold Cutler's gunslinger mentality...I think they would need to instill a "clock work orange" method where Cutler actually gets physically ill when he sees triple coverage or is tempted to throw it on the run across his body lol

    2) Olin got BAILED out of his very 'rookie' mistakes.

    3). Webb must be a solid Bball player cuz that's the first box-out block I think I've ever seen lol

    4) Is Williams even good enough to be second string?

    5) I'm not sure if Knox and CO can be taught receiver instincts like coming back for the ball, improvising, recognizing blitz and changing to a hot route, or all that small stuff. They have, however, learned to break their routes when Cutler begins to scramble, unlike last year, when the receivers just stopped after their routes and drank some cool-aid while Culter was running for his life...

    6) AMAZING what happens when a player solely focuses on ONE position like Idonije and Manning.

    7)Melton and Toeanea HUSTLE their asses off.

    8)Harris is the Bob Sanders of our D. Once upon a time...

    9) We FINALLY, FINALLY shut down AP...that's what happens when we don't have to blitz constantly.

    10)DJ Moore and the rest of our secondary are gaining the rep of being "opportunistic" - the same label the Saints D sported last year on the way to a SuperBowl Championship.

    11) Ditto on Graham and Davis.

    12) Maynard and Gould are beginning to make me nervous...a sentence I never thought I would utter.

    13) Cutler's not getting MURDERED, that's why he's playing better. He still doesn't practice classical mechanics (how many times did he throw yesterday while back peddling?) nor are any of us sold on his IQ going up overnight and deciding more wisely (another redzone ints). HOWEVER, when he has a little protection...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    +1 on 5). Although did you guys see Shabba come back on his reception? A real receiver. He deserves more snaps.

    12) Need to pull the trigger on Maynard. Gould doesn't have the size to boot 55 yarders and never will. He's not going anywhere though.

    13) That's about the size of it. With each passing year the silly passes should gradually decrease.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Rich McGee will be punting for us next year; I'd take that to the bank.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's amazing how composed Cutty plays when he is getting some time to throw. I was afraid that #6 got hammered too many times and might stay in that haze he was in for a couple games after the Giants thumping. But, he broke out of that shell. He's feeling pressure in the pocket better and regained some form of a mental clock for getting rid of the ball. Although he's still throwing off his back foot a lot, he's getting away with it and he's stepping up a bit more in the pocket. He's taking the easy stuff first and not waiting too long for deep routes to develop. He gets right in LBs faces if they talk shit. He doesn't slide. He is a tough son of a bitch.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Viva is Jerry Angelo

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Good call coach. That's the only logical explanation. JA is OK from the 4th round on. First three rounds he's been a disaster.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    4th round on for Defense

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    And the first three rounds is pretty much the most important place to be good ....pro bowls are full of first round picks not 7th.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Not sure if anyone posted it yet, but it appears Henne is still a possibility for Thursday night. That sounds more like gamesmanship on Sparano's part, but I'd rather see him at 75% than 15 more snaps out of the Wildcat.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    McNabb got a lifetime supply of Plavix as well as money.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    can you say..."Mike Vick in fantasy football?"

    Fresno...make it to the finals. gonna beat your ass, run you over, and beat your ass some more.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Are we in the same one FQ?

    Maybe not but I have Vick in this week. Best player so far.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Welcome to the blog - irootedforjay (though I'm an infrequent visitor here I thought someone ought to do the honors)

    I Bleed... the point of the "beyond the line" penalty beign a spot foul is that the QB is s runner once he gets past the line of scrimmage. So the yardage of the run counts, and then the walkoff is from there. I saw him with the decline signal too, and I must admit I forgot it was a loss of down. Makes sense that it would be, since it's akin to intentionally grounding.

    Was anyone else surpised they kept the call on the field for Brigg's interception? It sure seemed like the Bears were. I thought it looked enough like the ground helped him. I wish they would have asked Perera BEFORE the ref made the call. It seemed like he hedged when they did ask him - kind of saying it could have gone either way. I think he does a great job overall though. Have to start reading his column regularly.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I thought the Briggs interception would be overturned as well. Looked pretty clear to me that it got a chunk of the ground. Not complaining, but I would have been pretty pissed if the tables were turned on that one.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    It actually does NOT matter if the ball touched the ground. I was yelling at the announcers because they kept talking about that.

    The ball can touch the ground. The question is whether Briggs had control of the ball throughout the catch. It was hard to tell, but it looked like he did. More importantly, there was no evidence that he didn't -- which is what you need to overturn the call.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    In that case the call was correct. He maintained possession IMO.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    aha. There we have it. Didn't know that.

  • In reply to BillW:

    I was suprised. Was it "incontrovertible visual evidence"? Well, I have seen plenty go against us that weren't so...

  • In reply to BillW:

    I was surprised at the Brigg's call. Clearly the ball touched the ground, I thought that was getting overturned, but I'm not an official. I guess he always maintained control of the ball?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Another point - I said the ame thing about Toub during the game. Seems he does well with an ever changing group of players on coverage and returns. A good reason he will be considered for HC somewhere someday.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I wish I made his $.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Wow, you're on the Angelo boat all alone there man. Truly stunning. I hope it;'s a tongue-in-cheek-piece al a Swift's 'A modest Proposal', otherwise it's going to get blended, liquified, eaten, digested, and shat out in technicolor.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Our current LBs hit as hard as Singletary/Wilson/Marshall (only two in a tandem by the way)? Really? No way, sorry, you're thinking of a different Singletary/Wilson/Marshall. The devastation they unleashed on opposing QBs and RBs was much superior albeit they had a better DL and blitzed more. I haven't seen Pisa or Briggs leave anyone for dead this year. It happened all the time with Otis and Wilber. Youtube and IronWorkerJeff's channel are only a click away. Those guys lived in opponents backfields and were concussion-making-machines. An argument could be made for Urlacher individually over Singletary for sure, but I'd take Wilber and Otis over Briggs and Pisa any old day of the week.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You can find the definition of a tandem here, smart ass: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tandem

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    We should send him some baby powder to keep the pimp hand fresh.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Is it me or is our Defense looking SOLID!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    fuck solid...best D in the league.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    +1
    After the Steelers getting bitch-slapped, no doubt.

    We lead the league at stopping the opponents on 3rd Down. We lead the league in fewest passing TDs allowed. We're second in yards rushing allowed, mid-table in passing yards. If we can get two/three TDs and a couple of FGs we can beat anybody in this league.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    +1 on Kellen

  • In reply to Crowned:

    wow viva, I would welcome that. Unless you've seen his penis, and it's bigger than Major Penis' and/or Crown's neighbor's... or somehow he

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I love Kellen no matter what. At 6'7 you're always open.

    On one play, Melton rushed the passer, the QB released the ball, he just spins and runs after the ball/ receiver, nearly taking their head off when they came to ground. That's a hustler.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    35-0

    Based on the 1st Q stats the Eagles are on pace for 1080 yards of Offense and 112 points.

    I am concerned.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    The Redskins D is awful - Cutler's brain-cramps aside, our Offense went through them for long-drive after long-drive.

    We lost that game purely based on shitty route running by Knox and Hester and a really, really bad decision on a go route.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Great win! This is how this team should be playing. We all know they have the potential. I expect to see more of this or Better than this. GO BEARS! FIRST PLACE!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    know what, no I can't. fuck that shit man.

    I'm soooo done with everyone being fucking giddy about one fucking win. Great, one win against a team that

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    it's not that we're happy over 1 win MB...it's the WAY the team did it. think about it: Mr. Coryell Jr. produced a balanced game, Lovie did no stupid shit this game, and (barring a few hitches), O-Line played inspired.

    hell yea i want a winning team every year, but you have to play the deck you have (and douse yourself in full-fledged reality). we could all see the potential of this team, but b/c of Angelo (the anti-GM), it was a dice game. i agree with you...win, lose, or draw, Angelo gets a boot out the door. or at least no contract extension for either b/c 1 year can't and should not save them.

    as for now, let's live in the moment. we're 6-3, serious contenders, and the last 7 games will tell us whether we're for real or a team on the rise that needs a change in direction. all in all, i'm stoked (and you should be too).

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I also agree with you.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Uh uh. No. Don't accept that shit from them FQ. 'Accepting the deck we have' means accepting Jerry Angelo as GM and all of his fkd-up decisions. he stacked the deck! No. Never. I do not accept the deck we have. It's a fixed deck strewn with jokers. Fk that.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Just to clarify. I accept that this is the deck we have for this season. After this year I want JA gone and to draw a few new cards with a new GM calling the shots.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I agree with you MB. If we win the SB, I still want JA gone. Lovie I am more lenient about but not by much.

    We seem to be the most up and down fans. Not with wanting our team to win but with the assessment of our situation after a win or loss. Week to week the difference is just massive sometimes in our point of view over just 1 W or L. We are a passionate lot.

    We have some really tough games coming up but if we play like yesterday we will be in it against just about anybody. And that was with some big mistakes that can still be cleaned up.

    Big, big test this week.

    Bear Down!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I hear you MB, some people have just gotten used to mediocrity. If you accept mediocrity, then you get what you deserve. Medicocrity, year after year. They wonder why we bitch and moan even when we win, like it's not good enough. Well ... it *isn't* good enough. Super Bowls are the *only* thing that count in football. I don't care if Peyton Manning goes to 17 conference championships. How many rings you got? Rings are the only thing that matter. I've been waiting 25 years for another super bowl victory - Chicago has the second biggest market in the NFL - we ARE the NFL ! One lousy super bowl and a pissant little town like Pittsburgh has six !!? That's just wrong on so many levels and I'm not accepting any less than excellence or at least the appearance of trying to win ... and Jerry Angelo doesn't appear to me to be wanting to win. He passed up Marshall, Boldin and the second and third leading receivers of All-Time because he 'likes what he sees' in our receivers. That suggests to me he doesn't know what a good receiver looks like, which means any of us could do a better job, and I don't say that lightly. The most important foundation for any team is you know where, and he's ignored it wholesale come draft time. Our first round OT is now fighting for his life at LG where Lance Louis or Johan Asiata should be - but won't ever be as long as Angelo's boy is on the squad..

    We don't need to apologise MB. We love our Bears and we want them to be where they should be, not playing second fiddle to some mining town. All of our rants are ultimately at Mike McCaskey, Ted Philips and Angelo for putting their foot on our head when we come up for water. It's a business to them, but it's our team, our pride, and our happiness. No apologies necessary. It's been 25 years, give me a fkn super bowl.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Medicocrity - the use of phallic photographic imagery within the media to stir controversy and strain marital relationships.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Come up for air even ... now that was funny.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Agreed that no one is gone if we have a winning record but Angelo especially needs the boot. He's a buffoon, and arrogant on top of it? How many picks has he wasted?

    That being said, I have enjoyed the play calling the past couple of games. I hope it continues and I really give the o-line some credit for stepping up and stopping the embarrassment they were causing this team.
    I think we also need to praise Marinelli for the job he has done this year. I know we have Peppers now but this defense is wreaking havoc in each and every game now and that's great to see again.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Again, Anggelo is not gone even if we lose every game. No one is paying him off until 2013/2014 to walk out the door in February. This is a business to them. They don't need to get rid of him.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Great call Jeff on Skunk getting a chance on kick-offs. I was hesitant just because of how much time he spend learning the O and based on the last time he was on KOs. Running backwards, in circles, not going north and south. Maybe if you continue to cut his plays at WR a little, he performs better on specials and reciever. I love that dive from Skunk on the 5 to cross the plain. He wanted that one bad.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    That's exactly why i posted that when I did Coach.

    I enjoyed the win IMMENSELY yesterday, but this is when people start saying things like,

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Its' the comments about 'kudso to the line' that befuddle me. It's the same faces that were there last week. We might have converted more third downs, but it's still one of the very worst in the league. Name one good lineman we have. I'll venture maybe Lance Louis or Asiata one day. Webb is a mummy. Omelette is Omelette.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    At least we're getting better as the weeks go bye, bit by bit, that's a good sign ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Illegal asiata boner. 15 yards and loss of down.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    He's a casualty of war. He's on the PS for political reasons and not because he's not good enough to be on the active roster. Williams is a tackle and should be playing tackle. Omelette should be benched and Shaffer should be at RT. Webb is absolutely useless at pass blocking.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Say what you want about the line and I would absolutely agree with you but you have to admit the past couple of weeks have been far better than earlier in the year. You've also said in other posts how great Minnesota's defense is and the Bears moved the ball and kept Cutler protected. Don't get me wrong I still question this line and have my concerns but all I'm saying is that they have played better and do deserve (at least for the past couple of weeks) some credit for stepping up. We'll see if it keeps up but for now you can't deny the facts.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Michael Vick ! What! 49 FF points = sweet. Threw 4 Tds, ran two in. Jebus! Tose guys could tear us apart. They just hammered, nay destroyed a team that beat us. We'll be very, very lucky to get three more wins.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hey Irish, you read that Bowen article about the defense being championship-caliber? I thought you might like it.

    Philly will be tough, no doubt. But we've got to hope the D will find a way to limit them somehow. I'm not sure how or if they will, but I'm not writing them off yet. Marinelli has been doing a fantastic job mixing up the game plans for each opponent.

    Case in point: vs MIN, he blitzed only once all game AND chose to go with an 8 man front on only 5 snaps against AP. That takes serious balls and confidence in the personnel... and they produced. The one blitz was the nickel blitz where DJMoore forced Favre into IG (better than most sacks).

    Let's hope Marinelli, Smith, Urlacher, Peppers, and company keep up their track record of shutting down Vick and containing Reid's offense.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I wonder if Viva's support of Angelo will look something like this?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-1116-haugh-bears-chicago--20101115,0,1772676.column

  • In reply to 750mL:

    No...truth is Haugh misses the boat as well. JA has been pigeon-holed into being a guy who builds his team around the draft, when reality is that he has used every avenue possible to build the team. Here are some of the FA's he's signed: (John Tait, Mushin, TJ, Rueben Brown, Fred Miller, Robbie Gould, Julius Peppers, Chester Taylor, Omiyale...)

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    The truth is that we are 30-28 and have missed the playoffs the last 3 years since 2006. It just simply isn't good enough. It is mediocre and barely at that. I would suggest signing FA's is much easier than drafting and a much more expensive way to fill a team.

    Drafting is a huge part of his job and he is consistently horrible in the 1st three rounds.

    Maybe keep him as an advisor for 4th round and later Defensive picks and some opinions about FA signings. He should not be the General Manager.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Congrats to FQD. 8-1-1 and just scored 166 points, a league record that won't get topped this season.

    166 points. That is just sick.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I got 154 on my Vick team, the other guy had Brady and over 100 points. Sweet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Uhh, it's 28-0 Philly. In the 1st Quarter. Damn.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I'd also like to thank the groundskeeper for making the field yet again the shittiest surface in the league. However, I believe the condition of the grass benefitted us yesterday. On 2 of Favre's INTs, the Vikes reciever flat out slipped and fell down. The surface has hurt us before (Peanut slipping everywhere trying to cover), but yesterday it gave us the advantage.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    After watching the game yesterday I would in no way want Lezlie Frazier coaching this team. I can't believe he wouldn't send the blitzes in against our offensive line. He consistently sent in 4 man fronts and if you can't generate pressure against our o-line than somethings obviously wrong. Watching that game showed me he is unwilling to adjust his game plan and that has been something I have seen around here far too much if you ask me.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Didn't Frazier watch tape on how safety and corner blitzes have killed us the last couple weeks? See Landry and Lawyer Milloy. He either was too cocky in thinking his front four would get pressure or was unprepared in how to attack us. Either way, poor showing from Frazier.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    They led the NFL in rush defense three years in a row. He's forgotten more about football than any of us know in fairness ...

  • In reply to Crowned:

    And are back in the red zone.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I suppose Shanny won't be shaking Andy Reid's hand after this one...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    lol I would totally shake his hand, but pull a "mall rats" lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfVVjpVZP8I

  • In reply to jbenton:

    He doesn't trust his safeties and corners to take up the single-coverage responsibilities that would result in blitzing. Plus, he probably expected Cutler to have his usual brain freeze and give us a present. He wanted to bend-but-not-break and trust in Favre?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff - your last comment was the best. Jay really IS getting coached. He looked very different for all but one play. And on the INT, did you see Martz really "NOOOOO!!!!" on the replay? Great stuff - shows they are working hard on getting him to play the situation.

    I can live with Lovie - he really seems to be losing his stubborness; and not coincidentally they are playing better.

    JA - HAS to go. But probably won't. A new GM will want his own coach and the McCaskeys will want to keep Lovie so Jerry stays.

    Bottom line - we will stay a mid level team that will ocmpete for the playoffs most years but never really challenge for another SB appearance.

    Still, that's a better fate than the team we played.

    Last thought - Favre discloses another injury. Always limps when he throws a pick but jumps around like a certified fool when he throws a TD. Brett - thanks for the memories - now please do the right thing. How can we miss you if you won't go away?

  • In reply to BillW:

    I saw the same Jay Cutler we've seen every week since he got here, Bill. Inaccurate, cannon for an arm, unwilling to let plays go. Cocky gunslinger, f-you attitude without the McMahon brain. Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Erroneous

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Great articles.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff, I for one always look forward to your posts they are actually insightful and display actual game knowledge. It is a refreshing break from the Peter King-esque Bears hate blabbering everywhere else in the media.

    So I finally set up an account so I can comment on your blog. You mentioned AP being limited to 51 yards as evidence that we are awesome at tackling runningbacks. This IS true. but the Dolphins are sooooo much better at establishing a run. Our defense has to be prepared for a stronger running opponent Thursday and the game is only days away. Too many people are overlooking this aspect of Miami's game. I agree their passing game will suffer and I am not confidant their fairly good defense will be able to stop what is becoming an offensive machine in Chicago. Taylor looked so good this week. I am indeed refreshed by this win.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    Good thing it is our strong suit. Lot of running this game. Clock will keep moving. Field position will be huge. We will need every point we can get. Gould needs to be Gold.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Oh and welcome.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    DBB Pop Quiz time:

    Name your Top FIVE Mikes playing today:

    1. Patrick Willis, Niners

    Leads his team in tackles in a 3-4 scheme. If you don't know him, stop watching football and start watching Tennis.

    2. Beason, Carolina.

    His speed and strength is crazy. he got fined $10k for a vicious head hit to Marcus Colston and is a hated player by other players, but he's like a young Ray Lewis in his physical gifts.

    3. Harris, Jets

    The leader and signal caller of that D.

    4. Ruud - Bucs tied with Child Support

    Ruud is younger and faster, and sheds blocks better. Lack is there because I'm a Bears homer and although Briggs is much better, Lack is the Mike and signal caller out there and it's obvious his signal calling is much better than Hunter's was. He still plays smart and waits for the play to develop and can still drop out with the best of them due to his height. He still can't shed a block for shit, whenever the Vikes got a man on him to block, he was done. But his experience is invaluable.

    5. Curtis Lofton - Falcons

    Lead tackler, signal caller, leader of the D. An impact player who makes plays and a rising comer.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If you have 2 players tied for a spot, you can't add a 6th guy to your top 5...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    OK, at the risk of sounding like a Lovie Smith apologist, I have to disagree with any simplistic view of handling and utilizing Hester.

    The man is a human being. He desperately wants to contribute as much as he can to the team, but did not have the background/development needed to step right into any non-returner role. He also has a psyche that's impacted by lack of production, and excessive pressure.

    * Does anyone think he would have happily remained a returner only for the past 4.5 years? Do you think with the impact and electric abilities he had, he would have settled for returner-only pay?

    * Does anyone really think he would have been effective last year if he was never taken off of KOR? (He wasn't effective in 2008 -- at least by Ridiculous standards.)

    No, as hard as it may be for people to accept, the Bears had to find a bigger role for Hester -- to make him happy as well as for the good of the team. Or at the least, to prove to everyone (in particular him) that there wasn't a bigger role. Putting more on his plate last year by leaving him on KOR would have been counter-productive... slowing his development while probably yielding no TDs (amping up even more pressure and "Hester's lost it" talk), damaging his psyche even further.

    So maybe you don't want to give Smith credit, or even the benefit of the doubt, but the truth is he handled the situation. He developed Hester into a true part-time offensive weapon (not just a gimmick, and to boot one that can also fill in full-time in a pinch) and without losing him as a returner -- all while under pressure of the public microscope. Could he have done it faster than the 2 years it took him? Maybe. But bottom line is he did it, and now we all can enjoy the fruits of the development.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Other than that, I agree with almost everything else you said Jeff. I do think it's premature to say with CW and his future. I share your concern with Gould, but there were heavy 20-30 mph winds and he did nail his second kick. Lastly, I think Maynard has been okay (not great but not terrible). Yes, his minus territory (from behind the 20) kicking sucks, but it has always sucked.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Maynard was also about two feet from pinning them inside the 1 on his first punt...which isn't bad given the conditions.
    I get what Jeff is saying but I'd take Maynard over Kluwe anyday.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Lovie may have moved Hester to WR just to disillusion him from wanting to be the next PrimeTime at corner...remember that folks, when he played corner?

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Hester is so momentum based with his performances that IMO letting him get his groove back on KR and adding light WR duty may have gotten us more TD's out of #23 but we will never know. At least we can all agree that he is being used correctly now.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    * Had he remained doing what he did best, he'd have an unassailable hold of every return record in the book.

    * The pay scale for the GOAT returner could have been re-jigged. Nothing like the being the GOAT at your position to do that. No one is saying we would have minded if he was trotted out four times a game at WR and sent long. Even if they never threw a ball near him on those downs, a safety has to help out over the top as he heads deep.

    * He hasn't been effective at *anything* since his dual duties began. That's the point. As a receiver there are 50/60 better in the league and our field position sucks. When he was returning kicks and punts full time we had great field position, touchdowns that won games, and teams game-planning for the guy, and the receiving was left to receivers.

    * Has Hester helped our passing game? At the exclusion of the above? At the exclusion of hiring a Marshall or Terrell Owens or Boldin ? Absolutely not. There is no rational argument to be made for the experiment just as there is no argument to made for Angelo as a GM. Devin is not a great receiver, and never will be.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    What this guy said.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    So assuming Philly and Atlanta win their Divisions, we either have to win the North or beat out the Giants or the Saints most likely.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    we must win the division. that is the only way to control your own destiny while being realistic. i mean, who else thinks we are going to go 5-2 over the next 7 games besides my homer ass. it's fucking crazy but i'm sticking to it. Playoffs! you sluts!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +1

    Division champs or nada.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    aww fuck man I hate getting behind on the posts. I dont have the energy to go all the way up and read one by one... Shiiiaaat

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Looking over all of these teams remaining schedules made me feel a bit better about our prospects.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    10-6 will be tough to make the playoffs with. That last game of the season could shape up to be exactly what the schedule makers hoped. A battle for the Division crown.

    This Thursday is huge.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    * Your assumption ignores the simple fact that BOTH the Bears and Hester himself believed he could contribute much more beyond returns (not to mention fans and analysts). Like it or not, some kind of "experiment" was going to happen.

    * Also Hester wanted to renegotiate a rookie contract after 2 years, with 2 years left. (You'll recall even Chris Johnson after a 2,000 yard season had to pull teeth to accomplish that.) The Bears wanted to make him happy, but coughing up the dough put more pressure to start any "experiment" sooner -- on both sides.

    * 50-60 better? False. In his first year as a full-time starter he remained on pace for 70-catch 1,000-yard most of the season until he was injured. There are not 50 1,000-yard receivers in the league.

    * Why bring up Marshall/TO/Boldin at all? Hester didn't stop them from signing them (heck, they made an offer at Boldin). You guys can call the "experiment" a failure, but you're wrong. Do you think Hester makes either of his spectacular TDs this year without learning the ropes of being a WR? We're getting dividends today from the time invested the last 2 years.

    You just assume that 1) Hester and the Bears would happily ignore the potential for him to contribute so much more, 2) Hester would have kept producing (even though he admitted his slow start in 2008 was affecting his psyche) without careful handling/coaching, 3) Hester is un-developable as an offensive weapon, 4) Hester didn't and hasn't provided impact plays on offense, and 5) that he isn't a bigger weapon now than he was before or would be without time spent learning WR. I see no evidence that any of those 5 is true -- in fact, I'd say the evidence shows each one to be FALSE.

    Admittedly I may be a bit biased because I love the kid (2nd fav, after Mike Brown), but I'll listen to any counter-argument based on facts and not speculation.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    the announcers are out of control. I have heard them say "Michael Vick" 22 times in the last minute.

  • In reply to BearsChick:

    It makes me sick to my stomach listening to these sycophants Jaworski and Gruden gush over the scumbag that is Vick. I'm sure he's turned into a great human being since his jail sentence. Just ask the ESPN crew.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Every fuckin week their sucking some ones cock.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Hey Crown, I'm with you man! I loved it! When Cutler pushed that fat ass I looked at my dad and said "If that was McMahon, Hilgenberg and VanHorne wouldn't stand for it. They'd be shoving too!" I look back at the TV and sure enough, there is Garza and Krutz shoving back and talkin shit! Bear Football! Love it!

  • In reply to Church:

    That was good to see.

  • In reply to Church:

    Bears football

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Will Philly score 70 points?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Same five as the Bleacher report GPL?

    1. Patrick Willis. Because.

    2. Jerod Mayo. 105 tackles already!

    3. Derrick Johnson 11 passes defensed, 3 FF.

    4. Lawrence Timmons 2 INTs, 3 sacks, 9 passes defensed.

    5. Paul Posluszny. Animal.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Some stats for you all...

    Aromashodu..starts only 7 games 8 recep and 120 yards.

    Taylor..14 recep and 100 yards

    Rushing

    Taylor 206 yards and only 65 attempts, no fumbles

    Forte 470 yards and 125 attempts, 3 fumbles rushing and receiving.

    The person with the most fumbles on our team?

    Jay Cutler-7 fumbles.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Hey phrozen, you dumb phuck:

    Get to Madison and protest stopping the high speed rail from Cheeseland to the Windy City:

    http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7790446

    You want that choo-choo, believe me. You can come down here and spend your cow milking money at Ditka's eating good food, and looking at hot ladies like Bears Chick instead of those heffers you call female up there.

    Get crackin', cracker!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That train is the true definition of a boondoggle.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jeff, top notch reporting all year. This is the only place I go consistently for print coverage online. The Dolphins game makes me a little nervous. It seems like a trap game similar to the Giants, especially with the really short week. Both games are also after a big division home game. Hopefully the Bears step it up on Thursday with a balanced offensive attack and more solid D. Fuck the fins.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well, at least we won. And we're not tied with the Packers atop the NFC North, because you can't be tied in the NFL, FOX don't appear to get that. And they didn't seem to notice that Mr. Ridiculous was back on KRs for the first time in a long time. Wasn't he spectacular? Surely there's more of that to come this season after the returns they got Sunday?

    Some not so random thoughts on the game :

    * Bobble-hats are gay.

    * Lovie didn't appear to frak anything up.

    * Corey Graham awesome once again. As was Melton - let's get the ball in his hands now. My man Izzy continues to shine.

    * Didn't notice Tommie Harris - see he recovered a fumble though - is he the most expensive backup on the team now ? Melton showed a lot of hustle and appears to be the starter alongside Big Toe ?

    * Chris Harris is lost at sea in coverage. As always. Toasted for another long TD. Even on his interception, if Shiancoe doesn't fall over then he toasts Harris too, maybe for a TD.

    * D.J. Moore is getting studlier by the minute.

    * Omelette and Webb are still human turnstiles. Surprise, surprise. And Kreutz, you were a tool in that game. An *old* tool - Favre-like.

    * Matt Forte up the middle is a waste of a down. Taylor to start. Forte on third downs/receiving downs only.

    * Anyone see the point in continuing to start Manu? Kellen Davis please. That was a beautiful call on 3rd and inches.

    * Way to close down the NFLs second leading rusher. Definitely the best 4-3 linebackers in the business. Surely the best?

    * Offense had 57% 3rd down conversions ! Sweet. Minny - 11%. Defensively we're still the best in the NFL at stopping the opponent on third down. Our offense is rocky but our defense rocks.

    * Seeing the game thread, lots of inebriation judging by the 'Cutler played with poise ...' comments. No, he didn't. Same old Cutler. He was wildly inaccurate. Could probably have run for a TD on the redzone pick. Has to force it in there. Once any kind of touch is required he's just not an accurate passer, but he's not going anywhere, no one cares, shut up Irish, so ...

    * Hester to return kicks full-time please (repeat ad nauseam). Excellent ST returns last night. ST kicking SUCKED. It was windy though ...

    * Before the kool aid gets chugged again. .... we beat a team missing its three best receivers and one that has lost its last nine road games and has a very old QB with things on his mind other than football. But we beat them well! Every game from now on is tough. All remaining divisional games are on the road. The Pats just kicked the Steelers heads in. Miami will be starting their best QB on Thursday i.e. Brandon Marshall emerges. They've beaten both Minny and GB away (they're better on the road!) Michael Vick still scares the crap out of me, as does DeSean Jackson and Chris Harris' pass coverage

    We need to beat the curse of the Dolphins on Thursday night. End of story. The only 'easy' games the Packers have - if there is such a thing in the NFL anymore - are SF at home and Detroit away.

    But things could be a lot worse, eh ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    accuracy and poise are different qualities Irish. Throw in decision making into the mix. Cutler's decision making is still questionable, as well as his accuracy, but he isn't "panicking" as much under pressure now a days. He has cooly stepped up into the pocket, scrambled when he's had to, or covered up and just took the fucken sack when necessary, as opposed to earlier in the year when he did the exact opposite.

    Agree with you about nearly every other point. OH, and will someone look up Culter's night time stats, I'm too lazy right now, but I vaguely recall it being halloweenish...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Did that night-time research before, as I recall he had three at Denver and only shit the bed once. For the Bears though, it seems bad things have happened at night. We'll see Thursday!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Counteract with monsters of Midway Jerseys, the two variables will offset one another.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, they weren't missing Harvin until the D knocked him out of the game.
    Their top 3 receivers are:
    Shiancoe
    Harvin
    A guy who hasn't played a snap this year.
    If you want to include Berrian in their top 3, that's your perogative but he's done nothing to earn it.

    I don't get the negativity anymore. I just don't.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I should clarify - about Cutler.
    He is who he is. He can be overconfident in his arm but with some of the throws he can make, I understand why.
    He is also a tough sonofabitch and I'm glad he's our QB.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    He is such an improvement already over what we had and has the potential to be one of the best in the league.

    If he gets more comfortable after getting a real O-line in front of him (sorry 1.5 decent performances from most of our O-line doesn't cut it), I think we can win Championships with him at QB.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Absolutely.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Realism, not negativity. We've played one good team so far this year, about to play a few good ones. And Philly look hella scary right now.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    C'mon man, Minny suck. When we beat a good team we'll know we have a shot at the playoffs. That means beating the Eagles or the Pats.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If we beat the Eagles or Pats, we have "a shot at the playoffs"?
    If we beat the Eagles and/or Pats, we're favorites to win the whole enchilada, Irish.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Well we better beat 2 of the Eagles, Pats, Jets or Packers games or we will be 10-6. That might not be enough to make the playoffs.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Irish, you gotta believe brother even if it is just a little bit. People are taking notice of the Bears because they are doing the things that made the talking heads mention super bowl 09. Defense is tough and takes that ball away, Hester is consistently creating fear boners on kickoffs and punts now and the balanced offensive attack looks pretty damn effective. This team will make the playoffs. We are going to win this division and you know anything can happen in the playoffs. Take this cup...what? No, i don't know what you're talking about, it doesn't smell like weapons grade codeine...just take a sip...oh yeah, take it you little bears slut...take it down.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjn2uxA7_vw

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Besides that INT he forced in the endzone, he was the epitome of poise. The other one was off of Knox's chest. I love ya Irish, but I don't know how you can still be complaining about the Oline. Webb has been terrific the last two weeks and so has Omelette. They just dominated one of the most talented D lines in the league despite how they've been playing.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    It seemed every time I saw Omiyale or Webb there was somebody running around them. I'll watch it again on Friday and check them out. Cutler was a cat on a hot tin roof for a reason. Those boys are getting beaten like the eggs they are.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    all right, let's get it on rooter. good first post.

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    I finally get to watch the mighty Michael Vick play QB tonight. I've seen all the stats and hype. Now I get to see what the Bears are up against vs the Eagles. It should be a good game. What were the Skins thinking giving McNabb all that money? It makes no sense to me.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Oh fuck... right Corm? Are you watching this shit? It's a fucking bloodbath.

    The eagles look fucking ligit... 2 legit to quit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Eagles look scary good tonight, especially Vick. He's gonna be tough to contain. We need Urlacher to shadow him in two weeks or contain the pocket. Easier said than done. The Skins are starting to put up a fight, but probably too little too late. I'm glad I didn't bet the under.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Good call. The Eagles had the over covered by themselves in the 1st half with points to spare.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Here's a good article from former safety Matt Bowen --

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Do-the-Bears-have-a-championship-defense.html

  • In reply to irootedforjayin09:

    don't forget that they were missing that third receiver because we fucking hurt him.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    and possibly put the finishing touch on Drama Queen!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Replacing the hurt locker. Now there's a job. Has to be a first rounder too.

  • I'm still waiting for your Haiku Jeff.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    how do you do Haiku..?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    First line: 5 syllables
    Second line: 7 syllables
    Third line: 5 syllables again

    The last line is usually where you drop the bomb. Better if it

  • Valid points, All, Mayor Blogfather.

    Isn't it amazing how much better any QB in this league looks when he has decent protection?

  • I have personal reasons for hating the fish. But hate them I do.

  • Ya Doc, I actually feel better after this win then when we stood at 3-0 cus of the WAY we won. It's almost been our M.O. that when our D plays great, our O plays awful. Or when Our SP teams plays lights out, our D and O play subpar - or sometimes our O puts it together, and our D starts giving up a lot of yards.

    So, FINALLY, when all 3 phases play up to their "potential", it makes me a very happy man. Anytime we win by more than one score, I feel like we won as opposed to merely "not losing".

    Fins! God damn them and their champagne popping 72 team...I would LOVE for da Bears to knock out Thigpin (nothing serious, just for the game) just to see who they would put in...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Patrick Ramsey was just signed.

  • Favre's done at Soldier
    Three picks a fumble tiny dong
    shit is what he ate

  • We're gonna see a lot of the wild douche. Considering we dominate the run, we should be ok. Although I do recall Cribbs running it with some success against us last year. And Thigpen is a pretty good #3 quarterback. It's not like were facing Todd "i eat wang for breakfast" Collins. He had some real good games for the chiefs a few years ago, and he did throw a td in limited action with the fagfins yesterday. That being said, pretty sure they'll have a limited play book and rely mostly on running and the wild douche.

  • Is it possible that our "D" have knocked out the fourth QB of the year? If so beginning response from me of this thread, needs to say "fourth knock out"

    bye bye Brett Girl

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Did I read the Giants have knocked out 6 QBs ? Is that true?

  • That's the thing. Williams owned Jared Allen last time they met, yet Allen owned Omelette. Is Omelette a better LT than CW? NO! And we are clearly a better team on offense when Shabba gets the looks.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish - what game were you watching? How did Allen "own" Omiyale?
    I agree with you on Aroma; he is being worked into the offense lately. Give it a game or two.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    By running around him like he wasn't there. Ditto anyone going by Webb ....

  • They didn't remove him from KR right away, only quite a bit later once he had been struggling for a season with both KR and PR.

    Also I think it's a bit revisionist to say it was clear to cut bait. All of last year (his first as a full-time receiver) he stayed on pace to hit a 70-catch 1,000-yard season... until he got injured. They should have cut bait last season? If not then, then this season? You guys make it sound like it was so obvious all along -- yet I'm not even sure it's obvious NOW, let alone in the past.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I was never against the experiment. I just thought the WR stuff should never have been at the expense of the return game. And once JA and Lovie have invested in someone or stated someone is at a certain position it seems they will back that decision including not cutting people's playing time until way too late or not pursuing better options at that position to improve the team.

    If they thought he was so valuable why did they have to tie his contract to WR performance? They could have just paid him more than any othere returner since he is the GOAT. That would make almost anyone shift their focus and priority away from returns. That is where the most positive impact was likely to continue for at least the next few seasons.

    I just think it was handled wrong.

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