Many Thoughts on the Canadian Escape

  • This was exactly the game Cutler/Martz needed to have and they were aided by an improving offensive line (although we'll learn how improved next Sunday).  Cutler was efficient and smart with the football, making a couple spectacular throw when he had a chance to set his feet and hurl it.  Those few extra seconds the offensive line give him allow him to make the choice to run and his legs were the reason the Bears won yesterday.
  • When Earl Bennett is running routes and Devin Hester isn't, the Bears are a better team.
  • I have to admit I was dead wrong about one thing this preseason: the safeties. Danieal Manning has had an excellent year and I never would have believed this group would be a strength of the team while getting nothing from Major Wright.
  • Chan Gailey's late fourth-quarter challenge was Lovie-esque.  Man that was stupid.  How is it that so many of these coaches don't understand clock management?  There should be a budget line to hire a guy to stand next to the coach and say, "Don't do that.  It's stupid."
  • If Robbie Gould kicks the first-half field goal, it's a different game.
  • I know it was a game the Bears could have easily lost but they played tougher yesterday than they have in a while.  They played with real guts.  And it was good to see.
  • Israel Idonije is quickly developing into a solid defensive end and I don't think I'm overstating the point by saying that if he continues to develop at this rate the Bears may end up in the playoffs.
  • I wouldn't trade our linebackers for any group of linebackers in the league.
  • I wouldn't trade J'Marcus Webb either.  I think that kid may end up being something special.
  • Somebody tell Roberto Garza the snap count.
  • Somebody step up in practice and beat out Frank Omiyale already.
  • You know what the Bears need to establish a solid, tough running game?  A fullback.  Remember those.  They work.  Every great running team in the league currently has a solid fullback.
  • I have nightmares now about bending but not breaking.  The broadcast booth was dumbfounded by the Bears corners playing off the marker on every third-down situation but I wasn't.  How could I be?  I just accept opponent third-down conversions now because my head coach certainly does.
  • The Bears are an unsatisfying 5-3 but satisfaction may be just around the corner.  While Green Bay is soaking in national praise, the Bears can move back into first place with a home win over the Vikings next week.  And they are underdogs to boot.

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  • We need to be the FIRST team to end that precious streak of his. Pepp, Izzy, dismantle.

  • I can't say I am always a fan of Kevin Seifert's articles but he does make a good point: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/19203/free-head-exam-chicago-bears-8

    "There is a line of thinking in the NFL that suggests quantity of runs is more important than quality. I don't generally agree, but for this offense I think it makes some sense. Offensive coordinator Mike Martz almost needs a pregame quota to ensure balance and, more importantly, that he doesn't rely too much on a passing game that has demonstrated it can't carry this offense alone. On Sunday, tailbacks Matt Forte combined for 62 yards on 24 carries. No one is going to get excited about those numbers. But if nothing else, those carries lessened the pressure on quarterback Jay Cutler -- who coincidentally (or not) had a nearly mistake-free game. The Bears also converted 58 percent of their third-down attempts, another likely byproduct of balanced play calling."

    It helped that they were playing one of the worst run defenses in the NFL but I think this team does a lot better with balance to neutralize the blitzes. It also helped a lot that Jay pulled down the ball and ran...I think he covered 40 yds on two runs.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    NYBF..problem with that is JC is no Mike Vick...either he hands it off or gets in the gym a BUFFS UP..today!

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    4 runs for 40 yards. Our leading rusher ...

  • second's? more please?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    "The past couple of games when we didn't run the ball that much, the pass kind of sputtered," Forte said. "We need to run the ball to establish that run, control the clock, keep the other offense off the field and help our passing game go. It's about establishing the run so the passing game can work. If we don't establish the run, they'll just sit back there and wait for us to pass."

    Buffalo couldn't do that. The diversity of the offensive attack led to Cutler completing passes to eight different receivers for a passer rating of 97.6. In addition Cutler suffered only one sack, after having sustained 19 over his previous three outings headed into the contest, as the offense converted 58 percent on third down, 75 percent in the red zone, and scored on all three of the team's goal-to-go situations.

    - From those bitches at ESPN

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I wanna say CONGRATUALTIONS TO ME! For handing Cutlers Forte (FQD) his first loss in Da Bears Bloggers Fantasy League. I destroyed him! I am now in First place for the West, and will be a freak train that no one can stop. I did not draft my team, I pretty much came in and made it work much like a Great GM would do. Thank YOU!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    And modest too!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    He's from California.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Frazier may helm the Vikings next Sunday. I think Ziggy has had enough Chilly for one year.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5776714

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And Wade Philips got canned after Jones said he wouldn't get canned. And who replaces him? Their ducheyne OC - hated by every single fan. Can you imagine they had fired Lovie last year, and then promoted Ron Turner to HC. Jebus. I almost feel sorry for them.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Kicked my ass too yesterday in the other league. Tell them where you are in that one ;o)

  • It's 9 in the morning after a Bears win.

    I think I'll have Waffles for breakfast.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good Morning Gloria!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Republicans should never mention Glory Holes.

    Hey, how ya feelin' about Rosenbloom's column today?

    http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/rosenblog/2010/11/imagine-if-the-bears-didnt-have-two-weeks-to-prepare-for-the-nfls-worst-team.html

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i give as much credence to that fucking hack as i do to you calling a registered democrat a republican. are you mentally retarded?

    Do you seriously subscribe to Rosenberg and his overly pessimistic and acidic bitch column? He can make 14 play 81 yard drives sound inefficient. are you kidding me GP?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    wait, i'm confused, where is the column from Jeff bluntly stating, without supporting info, that this was in fact not a victory at all? wasn't that the whole point of your misguided and completely off base critique of my comments from yesterday? well where is it GP? The answer is it doesn't exist because, while Jeff is a realist and doesn't pound kool aid like me, he is cetainly not a fucking Rosenbloom-esque hack looking to create internet hits and page views just by being over the top and sensational. He also doesn't write one liners that could come straight from the Bears site facebook page during the game. brutal.

    Just admit you were wrong and your defense was based on false info that you, of course, assumed so we can all go back to Vikings Week.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I did think Jeff would adopt a tone much more in line with the beat writers. Not just Rosenhack, who we all disregard here with equal disdain for his chicken little approach to everything (and you will find plenty of old DBB posts from me saying just that) - but also Haugh:

    "Dispersing credit sure beat deflecting blame for Smith. But as road wins in the NFL go, this was more perspiring than inspiring."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-1108-bears-haugh-chicago--20101107,0,3738758.column

    Or Mully:

    "Coming off a bye and playing at a neutral stadium with as many Bears fans as the alleged home team, the Bears found balance with OK performances on both sides of the ball and on special teams. That might be good enough to beat half the teams in a mediocre NFL, but it doesn't look like a long-term winning formula."

    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mulligan/2873932,CST-SPT-mully08.article

    Both of which are pretty much what Bears Chick said.

    I also thought Jeff would say it. Jeff has, at times, been pretty critical of Lovieball. But instead he's looking at it like you are, a win is a win, let's move on.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hey guys, let's kiss and make up. I like both of you as posters and arguing about posts in the heat of battle is a waste of time. I don't really have a dog in this fight and can see both sides. How's that for wishy-washy? Getting into a pissing match over an occasional poster isn't worth the energy. I don't think she was as upset as you two by the time it was basically over. The only comment that I thought was way over the top was Trac's and she was smart enough not to respond to it.

    Let's hope the Bears pound those douchebags next week.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    agreed, it's over and Favre and his tiny grey penis is our next target. what fucking deal with the devil did this guy make to play 20 years and throw game winning passes with 14 seconds left? I think the deal was that he had to choose between athletic stardom and the ability to hit on chicks without sounding like a hillrod. He outsmarted the devil because he went with athletic stardom and then married a chick that loves hillrods.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    moving on to Minny.

    I agreed with your statement that the Bills game was the season. I feel the same way about the Vikes game. It is a must win because the Pack will keep winning until we face them in December.

    If the stars align it looks like we will be battling the Eagles, Bucs and Falcons/Saints for the one of the wildcard spots if we don't win the North.

    That is a lot of pressure and we can take a little of it off ourselves if we take care of Minny while GB has a bye. Then they have to play Minny while we play the dangerous but very beatable Dolphins.

    Pissing away the Skins game is going to come back to bite us.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Every game from here on in is the season. If we don't win the division it's likely we don't make the playoffs. GB can score points at will, we can't.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We can take Frazier off the list. It's just a matter of time until registered sex offender ChildUndress and his handle bar stache mangina is ousted.

    The 0 and forever streak at the 1 yard line is caput. Now I know how the people felt when the Berlin Wall came down.

    Even though Pep doesn't have the sack numbers, he's totally made up for it in my book with his run stoppage. He gives every opposing lineman and running back FEAR BONERS ON EVERY SNAP!

    Chris Williams needs to sit his soft fro-yo ass down. He cannot run block worth shit and continues to get knocked on his ass. He's an LT, and until he can get another shot there pass blocking, I'd rather have Louis or Williams in there. It's not good when you're Williams size and look like a finesse pussy teddy bear.

    Melton bringing serious heat on the end during the C. Harris INT at the end. I know Izzy is doing work at end, but put him in the three technique and let Melton man the outside. Then we getr pressure from the inside and out.

    Earl Bennet needs to take his TD and turn it into a 2 hour instructional video for the other recievers called, "And This Is How You Fucking Run A CRISP Fuckin Route. Never Give Up On A Play Part II."

    I'm all for Bears Chick joining. Maybe this board needs a pussy perspective and it showed some good football knowledge. I used it instead of she because I'm pretty convinced BC is a dude that bates into his "Florio jar" on the regular. BC, if that pic was really you, I will take you to the Vikes game and then concuss you on my headboard to the point of annihilation to the point where you will be unable to watch Sunday Night Football. I have an extra. Let me know.

    Player of the game: Izzy the fucking Canadian Nigerian Prince of Manitoba Idonije.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Here you go Crown:

    http://chicksinthehuddle.com/scoop-on-the-coop/#bearschick

    I believe Amy is who she says she is. She does, thankfully, out rate Packers Chick there by a good half a point, 9 to 8 and a half. A full point and a half over Bills chick. But that's only because Packers chick is 27 and we all know by 37 she'll be pushing three large rather than one and change on the Health-o-meter.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oh, and I think Vikings chick was that girl in the video with the Miller lite beer can. Only a 5.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We like Texans chick.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Nicely done, Crown.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Dare I ask why they didn't get it from the first video?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Not as much to gain from "I'm Marcus Robinson Bitch! Never Give Up On A Play Part I."

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Childundress looks like famous perv and filmmaker John Waters

    http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=274613871984&id=92cc34f503909e97aff8796408f886f4&index=ch1

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I know this won't come as a shock to some of you but I love John Waters. I think he's funny as hell. If you've never seen the movie Polyester, you should rent it. Crazy funny. When it was in theaters they handed out scratch and sniff cards. They explain how to use them at the start of the film. Totally nuts.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Good to see them fight for that win, especially the offense not caving in after the setbacks. A few comments to your points Jeff:

    - I've been saying all along how bad almost all coaches are at clock management. Smith really is basically par for course here. You could count on one hand the coaches actually good at this. They really do need assistants -- but I think the problem is that most coaches are control freaks and also would worry about looking useless if they give up that function too.

    - I love the heart and guts of Idonije... Glad to see his talent developing to match it. (My ESPN.com handle names Brown, Hester, ... and Idonije.)

    - CST or ESPN noted that every big run in yesterday's game had a lead blocker (either Olsen or Manu I think), while the other runs did not and it showed.

    - You do realize the Bears lead the league in 3rd down defense (or did), right? Playing off coverage (Cover 3, Under 10, or an off-man coverage) is certainly reasonable in 3rd-and-long situations.

    - Bennett does look good out there, no question. I'm not as quick to judge Hester as ineffective. Haven't confirmed on the tape, but I would not be surprised if Drake is right and opponents are rolling coverages to Hester. Why do you think there's always someone closing on him every time the ball goes to him? Probably because they have help rolled over top. IMO the "book" on Hester is this: roll coverage over him to control the deep routes, jump to close and make 1st contact on short routes to limit YAC in open space, and rely on your play and safety help for the intermediates. I'm not certain that Knox or Bennett or even Olsen is as effective without Hester's presence on the field. (And I do think Hester has earned that respect from DCs by the big plays he made last year and in Game 2 -- he's not a Randy Moss, but he's someone you don't want to lose because you didn't properly handle him...)

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Do you think Knox or Olsen are effective Michael? Knox has one TD this year ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I do. Certainly not as good as they could be yet, but they've produced.

    Knox is on pace for 1000 yards, and IIRC has the most catches out of the receivers. Olsen is making plays, catching TDs, and running hot routes in sync with Cutler. (He also has even had a couple great blocks on big runs, but that has nothing to do with Hester...)

    Hey I'm reposting this to the current thread, if you want to continue.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Padawan ... a Jedi can form no attachments.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Plus damn one. Louis at RG/LG jsut on the damn field. And get Asiata off the practice squad. I know he's not 6'7 but he's got to be better than Omelette /Webb/Garza. Just give the animal a job.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ah Rosendoom. Hate him or hate him, he does sound like us sometimes. Agree with everything said there, although Jennings gets a pass for not actually scoring a TD.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Bear's fans should be glowing today. Why? Cuz these are the teams we must beat in the coming weeks:

    The Queens (twice)
    The Eagles
    The Pats
    The Jets
    And last but not least, the Fudge at Lambeau.

    And that's not even counting the Dolphins and Lions at their home.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    All have dangerous offenses except the Jets, and they're going to have our rushing in the minus figures if we're not careful. Unfortunately we don't have the offense to counteract any weaknesses in the upcoming defenses. This season comes down to the very last week and some dumb penalty that who gets the playoff spots. A team like Atlanta is 17-1 at home under Matt Ryan. We have to win the division, wild-cards don't mean shit. One and done is no fun.

  • Yup, and as the announcers kept refraining: 'The Bear's are the most blitzed team in the NFL'. Why? Well, when ur a D and u know 7 step drops are coming from a shell shocked and indecisive qb with a JV oline, why WOULDN'T you blitz?

    This isn't rocket science: run the ball, keep them honest. A few more screens wouldn't hurt either. If we had a slasher type runner, draws would help.

    There should be a run quota. At least 20 runs per game (preferably 30, but that's assuming we're not playing from behind). I'm not stupid. I know we'll be lucky to avg 3yds per carry, but at least those runs will be one less play Cutler can get murdered and/or give it away to the other team.

    This philosophy will reproduce a lot of "Bill type games" - close contests that rely on our D until our run-game pays off later in the game (the "residual effects" Seifert alludes to), but that philosophy will prob give us the best chance of pulling off 10 gutty wins.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    85B4E..I think we call that Bear Football!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Agreed, 85, but the problem is we *can't* run the ball, at least not against teams who have moderate to above average run defenses. I think we ran the ball one more time than we passed against the Bills, and we weren't effective doing it. Cutler needs to run more, if anything.

  • Irish - you are dropping Cutler for Stafford in FF and think he's a better QB overall (not just in FF terms)?

    Stafford is a beefier Chad Pennington with just as many chronic physical problems.
    You're bonkers.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I had Beef Chad Pennington at Ditka's one night. The gravy was fantastic.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's what she said.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Boom!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And BillW, I do hope you enjoyed watching that win yesterday, a QUALITY win, a WELL COACHED win. I am going to predict that that win, and the way they coached it (specifically Martz) may lead us to good things this season, good enough things that this coaching staff may win the chance for one more season (I guess if there's not a lockout). And I'm okay with that!

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    facepalm

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Phil, that last post essentially amounts to treason in my mind. I don't give a shit if we blow out the rest of our scheduled opponents by 40+ points each and win the fucking super bowl, '85 style...

    If we ever want our beloved team to find consistent success, JA and Lovie and crew MUST go (unless the lockout happens) at the end of this season. Period. End of story. They've showed what they can, or more like can't do... we will be mired in .500 to sub .500 mediocrity if we don

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    I'm pretty sure Vikings chick is Jared Allen's gargantuan sister who played in the UFL for a few years. Bitch can shed clocks like it is her job. I'll give her a -5 and then throw her in that Chilean mine so I never have to see her ugly mug again.

    The Pack chick is banging, but like all Wisconsinite females, by the time she hits 30 she's look like a Jackie Mason impersonator.

    It's hard to tell, but looks like BC has some nice brains. I would like to put dat pair through a barage of performance-based tests.

    And what was up with Trac's close to epic meltdown? Did his son go gay last week and he wanted to blame the liberals ? Aren't you happy that the public bathroom sidelers got the house? Here's to the next two years of government stagnation. I'm just joking Trac. Even if we have political differences, I respect your bears fandom.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Government stagnation is EXACTLY what we need. The less Wasington does th better.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Shed blocks, not clocks

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Thanks for the clarification, I thought it might have been cocks.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Crown... 1000 points boychick. Very nice.

    Couple other things:

    1. Irish, stafford hurt his

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Either you're getting laid on a daily basis now or on some kind of something...

    Who are you and what have you done with the REAL Phil from SATX?

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Bring me the head of Brett Favre!

    And is anyone else tired of seeing Taylor slow down when he hits the hole? This guy is not a goalline back!

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    I'd accept most of that Jeff. But way out on the opponent's third down conversions man. Marinelli deserves his credit.

    * There's an urban myth about the Cover two bend-don't break - in that it doesn't work. False as can be. The Chicago Bears lead the league in stopping the opponent on third down. We're not just good, we're the *best* in the NFL on third downs. Credit where credit's due.

    * Israel Idonije has been the man for years. He hasn't gotten better, he's gotten starts.

    * J'Marcus Webb? Really? I wouldn't trade J'marcus Webb either, wouldn't try. No one would want him. Too big and slow for pass-blocking. You could write the list of premier tackles that were drafted in the seventh round on your fingernail. In the 2010 pro-bowl, there were 83 initial selections - 1 of them was a seventh round pick. I haven't watched the game again yet to isolate him, but who cares. It was the Bills. They have a NT, The Poz, and Jairus Byrd who will be good one day. That's it. Can't play the worst team in the league and then say he had a good game. He gets owned by average players. As does Chris Williams, as does Omelette. And dare I say it, so does Olin Kreutz who comes from a different era of Centers.

    * Yes on the fullback. You don't lose Tofu and Unga and then not replace either of them.

    * Never understood the hate for Manning. Never. Never. Never. The guy is a physical animal. And if it's pass coverage people want to aim at, check out Chris Harris.

    * Hard to be confident against the Vikes, but I'm glad we don't face Moss who would have had a field day against the smurfs. Rice may be back for the game anyway, same difference. They'll score more points than us, might only be by three, but they'll score on us unless we put old Cock-shot horizontal. A lot. Newsflash - we are terrible at sacking QBs.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hey Irish, mostly agree with all your points here.

    - 3rd down D has been good
    - Idonije kicks ass (a favorite of mine, after Hester) but I do think it's both more opportunities and getting better
    - not convinced on Webb yet but he is promising
    - a FB or better perf from the TEs is a big area of weakness right now
    - agreed on Manning
    - you're right it's hard to be confident against the Vikes; Rice (when healthy) does more for them than Moss would have, but I don't think he'll be ready to go yet... regardless the Bears need to shut down the Vikes' season now

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Mr. Garrison up here...lol mkay.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    I saw Garza with two consecutive false starts, so the O-line coaching doesn't qualify there. Our wide receiver coaching has been in the toilet forever IMHO. Our QB coaching is obviously miserable, although Cutler was slightly better against the Bills, there's nothing that can be done for his "Triple coverage, eh? Fuck it."
    mentality.

    But quality ? Nah. Not on offense at least.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Phil - good point on Martz sticking to the game plan. I admit I worried he'd panic in the second half and abondon the run. Not sure of the breakdown of runs 1st/2nd half, but I think it stayed balanced.

  • In reply to BillW:

    It stayed 50/50. And it didn't work.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Nah, his average is so so, trust me, I'm a Bear fan so it's hard to drop him. The best approach seems to be change your QB like your underpants. Fitzpatrick is a stud against weaker pass Ds, as is Garrard, Stafford, guys that weren't drafted. If you use the same QB week in week out, be it P Manning, Brees, Orton, whoever, some weeks you'll just get hosed. Can't ignore QBs based on the matchup. I'm only on top in three of my nine leagues, had I not been so faithful to Cutler I'd be winning most of them. Cutler has the hard half of the season coming up, he just hasn't got the receivers. Sadly.

  • Al Harris to be released.

    Julius Pepper's has not had the sacks or tackles that we were hoping he would have.
    I still think he was worth the money. Irish, you might not, but he has changed games for us and I still see people trying to block him with two people or more.
    I just wish there was a way for him and others to get back there quick enough before the qb dumps it off to a short pass running back in the flat..which btw, how come we still can't pick off the little shit that we see coming everyday?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Peppers has played great.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Agreed. Peppers has been a mad man out there and there has been no one better on that line against the run. My beef has really been with Chris Williams. Anyone else see him get knocked on his ass multiple times yesterday? It was pathetic to watch him get dominated. I know we all want Lovie fired but doesn't JA have to be fired first. The o-line is really his fault and although they looked better yesterday I think we have to put it into perspective that it was the Buffalo Bills bad defense we were playing against. Don't get me wrong, a win is a win but Cutler needs more help and where are the damn holes for the running back?

  • In reply to jbenton:

    JAB, I'm thinking about writing a full column on how bad I think Chris Williams might be.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Did you see the shove aside arm wack that tossed Williams like he was Garrett Wolfe?

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Not once, not twice but three times I saw it happen. I understand that its going to happen once in awhile but its happening consistently and is frustrating to watch. I know moving him to guard is a tough transition but he fared no better at LT and was getting beat like a red headed step child.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Anyone else worried about Kreutz getting tossed around like an anorexic hooker?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Jeff, I'm an eternal optimist when it comes to the Bears so I thought the whole time Chris Williams was going to be the next Orlando Pace but I'm with you on this one. Holy crap does he look like he doesn't belong in the NFL right now. I hope to god I'm wrong on this one.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    it's weird isn't it. I though he was going to be a stud too. Remember the Minny game at the end of last year? He owned Jared Allen one on one. What the hell happened? Must be his back. Has to be. Came into the league with a herniated disc and I don't believe something that serious clears up like acne.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Chris Williams is a creampuff until proven tough....still waiting.

    He looked worse this week than when he sacked Cutler against the Skins.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I think a whole website dedicated to Angelo is necessary. How about ...

    www.theworstpersonintheworldathisjob.com

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    +1

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Agreed. Peppers has played phenomenally. He CHANGES games. He's like the Moss of D but without the douchbaginess. Offenses MUST account for him on every play. They usually leave a TE to chip,which means one less guy for our coverage to worry about (has anyone forgotten how TEs have KILLED our Tampa 2 in the past?). His pressures force a lot of bad throws that will eventually lead to ints. Izzy now leads Da Bears with 4.5 sacks (Anyone still grieving over the release of Brown or Wale?); Oh, and Peppers also blocks FGs, is GREAT against the run, and is a positive locker room presence.

    But he lacks sacks, so he must suck, right?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Izzy blocked that extra point yesterday

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    Ya, but Pep blocked a FG against the Fudge, remember?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    That's not what I said. Undeniably he's an awesome talent - maybe only Freeney is better. Pep jumped into the backfield against the Bills on one play and turned into stretch armstrong as he pulled down the runner. Of course he's getting double teamed and schemed for. That's obvious. But getting that kind of attention is supposed to unleash the other guys on the line. I don't mind if Pep is 317th on the list of tacklers, but if we're third worst in the league at sacking the QB then his contribution to occupying blockers is still not making us any better. Ergo he wasn't worth the cash and the ability to sign Brandon Marshall, Mankins and whoever. We'd be in the same position sackwise most likely with Alex Brown and Wale still here. That's my point.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Pep defends the run really well. Izzy and him are big upgrades over Wale and AB, although AB was a warrior.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Just not ninety one million dollars great. Perhaps in the intangibles, he provides things. Morale boost for the other team-mates, but certainly not on the measurables.

    * Halfway through the season we are tied for third worst sack total in the NFL.

    * Peppers is tied 68th in the NFL sack league with two sacks.

    * Our Jules is tied 317th for combined tackles with 20. (14 solo and 6 assists)

    So he's not making the rest of the team better either.

    He's better than Alex Brown or Wale though, yes.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I watched Manumalua yesterday more that usual and I have to say his ass cant block for shit on run plays. He looks clueless as to who to block and sometimes he run way ahead of the play. I think our run game is so dismal because we dont have a viable Fullback.

    Garza and Chris William. I saw them two get knocked on their asses to many times.

    Omiyale, like Jeff said! This guy is def. the weak point in our line.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Even on Forte's lone long run, Manofmoolah threw a shit lead block, he just stumbles into the hole looking like Barney from the Simpsons wandering into the bar.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    exactly. The guy is terrible.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Lovie and Tice say this is the O-Line they are going with. It may be the best we have and that might seal Angelo's fate. Williams is a clear bust. Omiyele in my opinion is holding his own better than I would have thought. Webb seems to have upside. Kruetz is hanging in there on expereince. Garza needs to work his way back. They need a whole new line next year it would seem.

    Quantity over quality of runs makes sense if you have a good passing team - which under the limitations of the line I think we do.

    I agree that we may be seeing a gradual end to the "Hester as number one receiver" experiment.

    OK - I've been exposed as a "don't care if they win" Bears fan this season due to wanting to see Angelo et al go away.

    But I REALLY want them to beat Favre next week.

  • In reply to BillW:

    It's like I've posted several times, out draft next year needs to be OL, OL, OL, OL, OL, OL, OL

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Can we slip in a well-built 6'4 receiver into the third round there Dave?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Don't get the playing off the WR's either. Fitzpatrick can dink and dunk with the best of them but his longer passes took their time getting there. If he had a better arm Jennings pick would have been 6 the other way.

    I watched Williams on a few plays yesterday and it wasn't good. The last 2 games last year I thought he found himself at LT. It's a cinch he isn't a good RT or LG. YIKES! Leave it to JA to find a huge bust OL in the top half of the first round. Usually they are great, good or serviceable. Right now I don't think any one of those three descriptions fit Williams.

    I wouldn't mind seeing Devin back on KO's but Manning is good. Knox is only going to get you the yards that are there. Nothing more.

    Not sure how we're going to get by the Queens next week. Hopefully either Harvin's migraines reappear or Favre goes back to the turnover machine he can be. Also, we have a big edge on return teams.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That block was horrible; I don't think he touched a Buffalo Bill on that play.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Consider my fan interest in the 2010 Chicago Bears reinvigorated!! I had posted last week that to me, I would know whether we were going to have a shot at the playoffs by whether Martz could adapt his gamecalling to what we have.

    And he did it, he did it from the get-go and he stuck with it the whole game. More runs, less 7 step drops, much less keying on Johnny Knox (formerly apparently the only play in the playbook), and probably most importantly, FOCUSING ON THE AWESOME MOBILITY OF OUR QUARTERBACK.

    D had some breakdowns, ST had an inexplicable Gould miss, but the offense turned around and controlled some clock and, of incredible importance for the future of this season, SCORED TDs WHEN THEY HAD CHANCES TO.

    We are IN IT folks. MUST WIN against the Vikes, and I think WILL WIN.

    Pinch me, but I actually think Lovie's doing some coaching out there.

    GO BEARSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Funny thing about that play was how the commentators tried to use the replay to show off his blocking skills. Then during the replay they were so quiet because it became apparent that Manofmoola's blocking technique consisted of falling towards the would-be blockee.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    I officially miss Jason McKie.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Take it back G...take it back!

    McKie was the equivilant of not even having a FB out there.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    As is Manofmoolah. We should line up Davis and Olsen and go single back set with the draw like the old Rams did with Faulk then. Our problem is, Williams and Garza can't hold their blocks to run the draw.

    I feel like Oliver Twist asking for more gruel.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It all comes back to the line (and subsequently Angelo). You could run PeeWee Hermann behind Cleveland or KCs lines.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Soap. Mouth. Wash. Now.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Now, talking about wasting money - there's a prime culprit. Both Manu and Barney.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Blogfather...great thread!! we have a "W" wasn't the greatest but we can build off of it. I just hope we have the courage to do so.

    1.small steps..wish we could of built these kind of steps three weeks ago..problem........ ego's
    2.This is why the experiment has to stop..put DH on KR & PR and watch him score for the O the way he was meant to!!LDL head out of the arse PLEASE!
    3. developement..take DM off KR permanently! let him focus...and as for MW let him. grow into the position and develop for our future.
    4. Isn't that part of the coaches in the booth to see the game from a different perspective..not on the field..dipshits!
    5.maybe growing a little passion.... no thanks to LDL
    6.Izzy building a motor....I think Pepe has a lot to do with it!
    7.blogfather +1000 BU still has something to prove FU NFL
    8.JMW..another building solid plays
    9.a BFF of LDL/JA (where are my two guards..and don't say CW that draft pick was a bust FU JA)
    10.another BFF of LDL?JA look above for answer or should I say question.
    11.Before the pre-season I said we needed a FB and I got ripped for it saying that the league had changed and no need for a FB..well folks lets look at our stats when we are #rd and short..more like third and "Oh Shit"!
    12.blogfather all you have to say is "Cover who"? thanks Al for that phrase, well at least I think it was Al
    13.love being the underdog..makes us pissed off! and time for pissed off gladiators to take it out on someone...How about "Brett Girl" his agood candidate.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Where's the fourteenth point Lobo? You come on here with a pissy 13 points? Tchoh!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    +1 agree on Pepe..he has made that whole line better
    1. double teams on his arse so another player can move in
    2. Interesting how are LB core is looking better? why because our line is penetrating so our LB' can roam.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Anyone else notice how often Pep is downfield and acrossfield cleaning up plays? And how much ground he covers with 5 strides getting there? He's the last guy you'd point at if you were finding guys taking plays off.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Again, no one has denied he's a great player and does this and does that. No one has said other wise. But is it ninety one million dollars great? That's the question. You can do a lot with that cash.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Okay Irish, valid as many of your points may be you should STOP SAYING THAT THE BILLS ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. Everyone here knows that is absolutely not true. They are at LEAST better than Carolina.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Okay, I'll defer on that, technically no one has a worse or equal record than the Bills though, but I would admit that Carolina are worse, yes. Mkay ?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I'd say that's more to do with a cetain Brian Urlacher being in the Mike instead of Hattie H.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    In the Sun Times today, Jennings admitted he bit on the double-move and was burned badly. The Bills had been watching and waiting to set him up out there, and he was toasted.

    Fitzpatrick the unlucky Leprechaun just weak-armed his guy, who was so wide open. Had he hit him in stride the game would have been over.

    Kudos to Jennings for pure hustle, getting back and getting his hands out and picking up that gift wrapped victory pick out of the air, but let's all realize he and the rest of the secondary were one shit QB throw away from getting roasted.

    Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, luck is as much anything in this league, it's better to run with it than against it. Manning played really well and Harris supports the run well, but maybe we could rotate some Pringles in there at times on passing downs in place of Harris.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1 on the Pringles/Harris situational sustitution thingy.

    And true, if Jennings didn't nab that INT it was a Bills' TD. And I have to say I was really impressed with that guy Fitzpatrick. Can we stop with the Vanderbilt thing and get stuck on Harvard boys, please?

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