Winning Crap Division Shouldn't Save Lovie

The Bears are not very good.  I thought they were and then they weren't.  If it's not the offensive line, it's fumbling in the red zone.  If it's not fumbling in the red zone, it's throwing mindless interceptions.  If it's not throwing mindless interceptions, it's the head coach having no idea how to utilize the challenge flag.  The Bears have a good enough defense and special teams to compete with just about any team in the NFL.  But to call their offense bad would mistakenly assume that what the Bears do when they possess the football is "offense".  It's not.  It's a series of unrelated plays that only occasionally, and often by pure chance, move the ball forward down the field.  (Never on third down, as Thom Brennaman likes to remind us.)

The biggest problem facing the Bears organization?  The Packers and Vikings aren't very good either.  Neither are the teams in the NFC East, South or West.  If the Bears manage a split with the Minnesota Vikings - who'll most likely start Tarvaris Jackson by Thanksgiving - there is no reason to believe any of the teams in this division will be able to run and hide.  The division crown may be on the line at Lambeau Field on the final night of the regular season.

And if that is the case, and the Bears have an opportunity to win the division that night, victory should not guarantee Lovie Smith's return in 2011.  Michael McCaskey, always speaking at the least appropriate time, has declared that Lovie does not need to win the Super Bowl to return next season.  Starting right now, Lovie Smith should only be considered for a return if he does the following things.  (1) Oversees an improvement in the overall offensive play throughout the year.  (2) Wins the NFC North and the home playoff game that follows.  Even that should not guarantee him anything more than consideration.

And I'll add one more thing.  In two weeks, in Toronto, the Bears will play the winless Buffalo Bills.  The Bills are bad but they moved up-and-down the field on one of the best defenses in the league in Baltimore yesterday.  If the Bears hand this team their first win of the season, Lovie Smith should be fired before he walks through American customs after the return flight.  And Dave Toub - not Rod Marinelli or Mike Martz - should assume the head coaching throne.

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  • Good post! I agree on everything except giving Lovie the bye week to fix the O. He had a full off season to fix it and failed miserably.

  • In reply to Church:

    It takes a year to fix a line at the absolute minimum. KC did it with schemes, so it would mean firing Mike Tice for one. The proof of the pudding is in the eating and Tice's pie tastes like shit.

  • I'll SECOND that, Ender. You nailed this one, Jeff.

    The worst part of it to me is the challenge flag; perhaps because doing it right is something that most of us can easily imagine - much more easily than figuring out how to make an NFL offense work, for example.

  • Since Fitzpatrick took over for the Bills, they have had a pretty decent passing game. They don't run the ball well, but since the run is the only thing the Bears can stop it doesn't really matter. That game in Toronto is looking much less like a gimme than it did to start the year.

  • Great post! However, I agree w/ enderwiggin, Smith has had more than enough chances. Time to let him go afte this season.

  • Seriously.. that was some of the worst coached football of all time. Hey we just need a field goal.. instead lets toss the ball up 20 yards after we've already turned it over 3 times! No challenge, no running the ball, no talking to Martz and Cutler. The more I think about it the more pissed I get!
    Thanks for losing while I had two Skins fans at my house!

  • Remember the Giants game. That's all you need to know about our season's playoff hopes. Nyet. No way in hell this team makes the post season. I officially give the kiss of death to any post season appearance. Forget about it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    During preseason, I said this looked like a 5-11 or 4-12 team. Two weeks ago I happily thought I was insanely wrong.

    Unfortunately, I'm not so sure any more.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Same here, I don't what happened to this offense. It started out really good then sputtered.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    It started out against two teams who after 14 games will have won two between them !

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I was in the 200's behind the end zone yesterday. I could plainly see that Cutler crossed the fucking end zone line. WHO THE FUCK is in the boxes upstairs for the Bears reviewing this shit? If a fucking fan can see the TD from 200 feet away, WHY CAN'T THE FUCKING HEAD COACH!

    The fucking fans at Soldier fucking suck. When you look at the atmosphere at Soldier yesterday with Lambeau, there is no comparison. And that has nothing to do with results. They support there team when there down. Many Bears fans at soldier pertending their fucking sun bathing.

    I agree 100% with GPL that Cutler mindframe has been scewed since that Giants game. He is just not the same. I also fucking hate the apathy that this guy exudes.

    And FUCK MIKE MARTZ for just quitting on the run game. Finally, our o-line was doing some decent run blocking. We were gaining rythmn and getting some confidence on O by getting some gashes with the run. Then, Martz says fuck it. Let's start winging it every play. Martz's constant massaging of Cutler's ego has ballooned that shit to the point of popping. Yea, let's go right back to throwing at the guy who tied an NFL record with 4 ints tomorrow. He got the better of you Jay; admit it and move on.

    9 sacks in a half, allowing a DB to get 4 INTs, no points in the 3rd quarter, 0-10 now from the one (could have been 1-9 Lovie; great job), worst 3rd down percentage in the league and we're 4-3.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    But look how we got there(4-3) Crown. We couldn't really even stick it to Carolina and they were sporting two lame duck QB's. Our victories have come against teams with a combined 7-17 record. Nope, the Bears are who I've been hoping they weren't. I think once everyone finally realizes the Bears won't do anything this, we can all go back to rooting for the loveable losers we have become accustomed to.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'm with you 100% on your post, Crown.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'm seeing a definite pattern here with my fellow bloggers. It's back to the drawing board of the mind with all the prognosticating. See how they've done it to us again. Lets face is, this coaching staff is not going to give the fans what we need. A winning Team is all we ever wanted. How can it be that hard. I mean we're the third largest media market in the Country. How hard can it be to entice an excellent coach to come to Chicago? The great pizza alone should be enough to bribe a Rex Ryan type to take the job.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The end of this article exlains the real reason Lovie didn't Challenge the Cutler fumble. I can definitely understand Lovie's reasoning because he was too embarrassed about the bad decision to throw the flag a play earlier. Lovie's pride cost us a touch down. Wow, how sad.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/25/lovie-smith-regrets-non-challenge-candidate-for-biggest-coaching-gaffe-of-the-season/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    4 and 3 to 6 and 10 ? And that's only if we manage to beat the Bills and Detroit away. Neither of those are guaranteed. Philly can outscore us, so can the Bills, Pats, Jets and we play Miami away. We all know our division rivals can all put points on the board. If it means the clown car leaves town and we get higher picks, so be it. Jerry won't be here to waste them. I hope.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    the nfl, much like business, is much much more about who you know rather than what you know fres... and it's about how much and how well you kiss ass. Cronyism and nepotism are probably even more rife in a small operating pool like the NFL. The bottom line is that there aren

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hmmm. Sounds like politicians.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    yep trac, that too.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDUGMtZxEqo

    Observations:
    * Hester is a total puss. Dude, do fucking something besides stand there and watch.
    * Knox SUCKS at running routes... if you can call them that.
    * No one mentioned it, but damn nice 1-handed catch on the 92 yarder Hall. Props.
    * Jay... oh nevermind. You know.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hester gave me hope on that sideline endzone catch earlier this season, and then just dashes it with play like that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We all know what we need to use hester as GP... too bad lovie, JA, and Martz don't

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Insult to injury:

    Kenny B. put up 40 fantasy points... while sitting on my bench in favor of Brandon Lloyd.

    (Shame)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i sat him to this weekend, but i still manage to win both my fantasy games

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Al, that is awesome. I would never say that about another player, but I have no issues saying it about that dbag farve.

    So that has to mean he's done. An avulsion fracture is a NASTY, nasty thing... especially at 41 years of age.

    Good riddance you sleazy sack of crap. Welcome TJack. Oh, and Childress... excellent use of $20M bucks you moron.

    I've been thinking about this lately, once you have a 'magic' season, you should expect the opposite the next. Call it the SB curse or the madden curse, or just the way shit rolls.... but the saints and the vikings can tell you all about it this year. Smart guys bet that kind of magic only happens once in a lifetime. Childress ain't that smart.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The guy that really is going to enjoy this is, my man, Randy "Pants on the ground" Moss. From Tom Brady to Tarvaris Jackson...I wonder if he has already texted his agent or if he's waiting to fire him in person.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    hahahahaha... welcome randy!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    If they're going to fire Lovie...and after that blown non-challenged TD, that should be the straw (4-3 and top of the division be damned) that does it...NOW is the time to send his ass packing, not after the Bye week. Firing him (and I'm not delusion to think they are even contemplating it, stubborn jackasses that they are) tomorrow would give the interim HC the max amount of time to get settled, meet with players and staff and yet still have time to get some semblance of a game plan in place.
    That non-challenge was just f-ing braindead no matter how you slice it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It would cost them many many many millions to fire Lovie and Angelo.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Oh, I agree - it ain't happening unless Lovie gets naked on the sideline and wangles his dangle at an official.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Just when you think the Bears can't play any worse, they follow up last weeks debacle with 4 quarters of hot garbage. The Bears are so bad, their terrible play is making the opponent worse. It's a total shit storm when you play the Bears.

    Next year you fire/release/trade everyone. You only keep the key components:

    Peppers
    Briggs
    Lach
    Pisa
    Forte-Maybe. Only one RB because we need a power back.
    Taylor-Maybe
    Knox- #3 WR
    Hester-PR only
    Cutler-Maybe. Only if we upgrade OL and WR

    Everybody else, pack your shit cause your services are not needed.

    Is it realistic? No, but it's the right thing to do.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Earl Bennett is the guy to keep. The guy is a player.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I wish Jay would throw to him more often.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Or anyone in a Bears Jersey.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ouch

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Those losses to NY and WA are really going to sting if it comes down to a wildcard spot.
    But we're going to win the NFC North so what am I worried about?
    Somebody go lock Lovie in a janitor closet for the next 13 weeks so we can win the division.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    should we summon the demon spawn known as #16 to incapacitate Lovie and rip out some of the crazier pages of Martz's playbook? I heard a sick rumor in the deepest darkest corners of the internet that Martz is putting the finishing touches on his lifetime project, the mega 12 step drop...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Pretty sure he's no longer with us. Autoerotic Asphyxiation.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    man, win the division? Tell me how we beat Buffalo or Detroit. Tell me how we win another game with an offense that's built to run but refuses to.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That's easy - don't turn the fucking ball over 6 times.
    If you've been watching GB and Minny lately, the North, as Jeff said, is crap. And we're 1/2 game ahead in spite of losing two in a row. Keep Lovie away from the challenge flag and we handily beat the Skins this week even WITH the turnovers. Not many teams would have even been in the game. I think you're forgetting exactly how lights out the D played or how terrified other teams are of punting to Devin again. This team can and will contend for the NFC North. Would they do so in the AFC North or East? Hell no, but that's not the road they have to travel. We're guaranteed at least a season split with GB already, the wheels are literally coming off in Minnesota (at least off of Old Man River), and Detroit is still Detroit (with a QB that is another shoulder injury away from being Chad Pennington).

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Detroit is the new Detroit. And they have an offensive line and they're using it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Taylor was around ten yards per carry against the Skins. Every time he touches the ball he's exciting. Forte has not earned his number one spot, neither has Johnny Knox/Hester or Olsen.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That is so true IrishSweetness.Instead the Bears look to enforce their accountability on Aromashadu and Dez Clark for dropped passes.

    If they were true to their standards Cutler should be benched just like Collins.Forte fumbled twice already.Make Taylor No.1.Olsen brings to impact.Bench him.And the offensive line I have no complaints.They are below average talents and I have no high expectations.

    This is all on Angelo and Lovie dovie.

    These two bozos shouldve been gone in January.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    See the problem I have with you Irish is that half the time I agree with you wholeheartedly and the other half of the time I couldn't disagree more with some of the things you say.

    Taylor WAS great against the Redskins and yes he should have got the ball more. But for the year man, 3.6. I agree with you partially on the receivers. But Knox is not a number one so it's not like he hasn't earned a spot he doesn't have. He SHOULD be one of our top three though.
    Olsen should not be our number one TE, but he needs to be on the field. Personally I think converting him to WR is not a bad idea.
    Humbly I say that Kellen Davis is the most complete TE we have and deserves to be the number 1.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    If he had shown up earlier in the season when asked to, he would be.
    He missed some absolutely crucial blocking assignments early and ended up in the doghouse. In terms of physical skills, I would agree. He is a beast.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Who? Davis or Taylor?

    Forte blows at blocking, Taylor doesn't.

    Greg Olsen consistently lets us down in blocking and let Osi in on the hit that concussed Cutler - *he* gets a pass?

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    On the bright side, the Fudgers looked bad in their win and the Cowgirls and Queens both lost. There is always a silver lining if you look hard enough.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    If, and I say this with tongue firmly in cheek, *if* we made the playoffs we've already lost the tie-breaker with the Skins and the G-men. The Cowgirls are done. The Lions can only get better, and they are getting better.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Definitely Kellen. Give the guy a chance if all this 'accountability' talk is real. He's a huge target for Cutler to throw it at. Chester is bound to improve his average given more looks and the more time the line gets to figure things out. No one is saying bench/trade Forte, just give the ball to Chester a lot more - that helps Cutler too.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    i'm telling you right now whether you like it or not. If Briggs is not out indefinitely because of the ankle(s) and Jay can not throw 4 picks in a half we WILL make the playoffs. We will then WIN a playoff game and then it is a toss up from there. I hope we are bitching about whether Lovie is still going to be here because that means we made the playoffs...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Romo out with broken left collarbone. He gone. I think i saw a tear in Jerry's eye. Yet another wasted year in Big D.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ouch.

    Gotta figure that's Cutler's fate if Martz just keeps making him a stationary target.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Winless or not, seems to me that Buffalo is improving as the season wears on and the Bears are...well... not.

    All things considered, the bye probably came at just the right time for the Bears. It'll take AT LEAST a couple of weeks to rid themselves of the stink of that Redskin game.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=5724442

    Melissa nails it; Martz and Cutler have teamed up into the ego driven pair. Reality will not bend the plan; the plan is 7-step drops and bombs away.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    incorrect

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What I don't understand is the complaints about the gun-slinging. YES we need to run more.

    But you guys forget WAY TOO QUICKLY how horrible it was for years watching the three-and-outs, having a QB who couldn't throw the ball past eight yards(KO) or having one that could only throw it sixty(Grossman).
    Having a philosophy that didn't even BOTHER to attempt to convert third-and-longs and playing to get good punting position.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    +1

    Having been through the Orton, Grossman, Griese tribulations left me dying for a real QB.

    Let's see... Jay is a pro bowler in Denver with real receivers and a more than competent OLine. Orton game manages his way to cult classic. Flip the script. "Jay sucks. We got hosed. Orton is the next coming of Jehovah."

    I feel like I'm heading towards the Cutler version of the "Leave Britney Alone" guy... Yes, he makes dumb mistakes. Yes, he has bangs... but yes god damn it he is built from the mold of an actual NFL QB and still has plenty of serviceable years left (barring dementia).

    Put KO on this team and we wouldn't be having these Kool Aid OD induced epiphanies. After going 0 and 3, we would have accepted mediocrity and continued to BEG AND PLEAD for a "real" QB. Meanwhile JC racks up 3k behind a real line.

    I haven't had much to say in the last few days beyond sarcastic and snarky snippets due to the fact that I start to feel such hatred towards all the JC haters. I would rather have Cutler for my franchise QB than half of the NFL's "future". Maybe because I'm a masochist, maybe because I seek out emotional rollercoasters, or maybe because I like a cocky bastard who doesn't give a fuck.

    You show me a good o-line and one #1 WR and I'll show you a pro-bowler.

    But... if nothing else... Blame El Nino.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Willie,

    You're forgetting that this franchise hasn't had a great strategic personnel manager since the great Mr. Fink. All those

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1
    If we run it more to keep defenses honest and control the clock a little ... if he throws a few away every game and checks down to his backs ... he'll be awesome for us. Provided we get at least one receiver on the field.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Earl Bennett, damn it!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Maybe the skins will trade with us. Cutty for Sexy Rexy back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Throw in Albert Haynesworth and I think we have a deal!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No need. They already have Rex 2.0.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Look gents,

    We all know that this is the formula for our O success:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nice story MB but I think the only recipe for success is a good O-line. Until we get that 1 or 2 years down the road, forget about it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Remember the KC way. Line was 27th last year, #1 this year. Why? Designed schemes, not a new roster.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dez has been old balls for the past 2 years. He's at home watching matlock as I'm typing this...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    That Matlock! So crafty!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Holy SHIT-STORM BATMAN!!!

    damn gone for two games and I comeback to a CLUSTERFUCK!! well maybe a CIRCLEJERK..then again what's the difference?

    The vein in my forehead is so large it has it's own zip code now.

    I don't even know what to say.. maybe this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEQcxTyiwWQ&feature=related

    At this time I'm thinking.... BLOW THIS TEAM UP! from owner down to Waterboy...has a ton of the attitude we had seen in the early 80's before DaCoach came in an cleaned house..

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I am here to help

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=circlejerk

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clusterfuck

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    LMAOF!!! thanks muststache for clearing that up!!!

    I think the team was in a circlejerk and then turned into a clusterfuck!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    one final thought: i blame the organization more than the players for this 4-3 record. sure the players (on offense) aren't performing up to snuff, but Jerry Angelo/Ted Phillips/Lovie Smith's mismanagement of draft picks are the reason why this team is as sorry as SOME expected. i still have faith, but it is unrealistic to believe this team is going anywhere with Jerry Angelo as the GM (don't know much about Ted Phillips, but if he hired Angelo, he needs to go too).

    we all can blame "name favorite player here," but why are these players on the field? why aren't the talent evaluators being held accountable? who are the people making decisions to cut Mark Anderson (who really didn't need to be cut, just made a sub), but keep Tommie Harris? i see a couple of factors as to why bad BUSINESS management of this team has fucked everything up:

    1) Unwillingness to cut losses. in any business, you have to identify weak links and cut your losses. it might hit your wallet because there's a big investment tied to it, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do AS A SMART BUSINESSPERSON!

    2) Cheap organization = mediocre play. the fact that Lovie Smith was even retained after last year proves this organization does not care about winning. the fact that Jerry Angelo has been the GM for 9 years proves that the organization cares more about $$$ than pride. and hey...how can you blame that? IF all the McCaskeys look at the Chicago Bears as a windfall, then mission accomplished. but, Chicago is not Carolina, Tampa Bay, or Detroit; you put a shit product out at Soldier Field, expect to hear about it (and rightfully so).

    3) NO sense of urgency - the way Lovie is coaching, he's not worried about getting fired (or even auditioning for a DC job like someone said on here earlier). they must know something, which leads me to believe nothing will change. i love the Bears, but i HATE the management. if this season is a bust, i'll seriously consider not wearing another Chicago Bears jersey until something in the front office is done. as the guy said in the blog post: "why should i give a fuck about a team that doesn't give 2 shits about me (in terms of giving them money for a shit product)?"

    there are some ppl out there that LIVE OR DIE with this team (i.e. tattoos on their bodies). until the owners make a change (or even sell the team), i find it very hard to take this organization seriously. maybe George McCaskey has some GSH in him, but i'm starting to realize that nothing will change with this team for futures to come until the McCaskeys no longer own this team.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    +100

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I think we're missing an important point. Hub Arkish (I know, I know) and others have stated that George McCaskey may assume control of the Bears to guide it into its' most advantageous position to sell. Ginny is ready for Matlock episodes and applesauce dinners, and without her, it's a federation of imbeciles who will probably want the money versus running something they don't even like.

    More than any Tribune or Sun-Times Rosenmoron calling the Bears names, the Forbes article is the one bit of journalism that stung them. It said they were inept managers and the team was severely undervalued.

    And the kicker, the thing that tells you the McCaskeys might sell? Mike keeps publically denying it. "Our family will own the Bears for as long as you care to think about it.", he says. If Mike's lips are moving, he's probably lying, so I took that line to mean "we might sell."

    But the price has to be right. Mister Harvard MBA wants his props for this team that he hates running. George will clean house if Lovie doesn't make the playoffs, and I think despite what is said in public, that is the yardstick and Lovie knows it.

    So I have hope. Hope that this team may be sold to people who matter. Bob Kraft, Jimmy Jones, the Rooneys. Owners that run the fucking league. Not gramma looney and her tennis sweater wearing Harvard posse.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...jebus I hope your right brother...becuase this is just painfully to watch.

    I think Al said on a previous thread...it's a train wreck..."move along people nothing to see here."

  • In reply to gpldan:

    How about us? Shareholders in the Bears. How sweet would that be?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Funny how Ted always escape vitriol. He's the fucking President who hires these clowns and oversees it all, and does absolutely nothing to change it. The accountant in charge of my team. The Arch Tool. Ted Philips.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And what part of GSH does *Mike* McCaskey have in him? Decency forbids me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's a l'il bastard already, eh? The girls are sweet- they don't say a lot, just packing the wight on and sleeping. And waking up.

    I'd like to see them free Shabba, Dez AND Kellen. We could run behind that line and pass just as easily. And if they haven't figured out that not having a 260lb FB maybe has something to do with our 0 for 10 from the 1 yard line, then one really has to wonder if Angelo isn't a Packer mole.

    I hope they use the bye week to put the crack pipe down and look at a *lot* of film.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think Lovie is as dumb as a box of rocks on the sideline, but watching Wade Phillips operate down the stretch last night was also pretty hilarious. From not taking a chip shot field goal with 7 minutes left to get the game to 2 possessions to going for 2 when he was still down by 12 (the fact that he got it does not make it any less of a dumb call). He totally mismanged an opportunity to steal that game back from the then-napping Giants.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    What was really staggering to me is that the Giants refused to close the deal. Shit, how the Cowboys failed to recover either on-side kick is beyond me - both of those were the most beautiful ST plays of the week.
    Coughlin is a raging idiot - he just doesn't have Gator-arms Williams at receiver.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The Browns punter running down field for about 50 yards has to win that.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I hate coaches who are in the NFL because their dad was a genius. When Buddy Ryan was coaching the Bears, his son was trying to steal beer out of the player's cars. You take his playbook, load up on M&Ms and let the good times roll ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB Jerry Vanisi was a great G.M.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    A massive boycott should take place.A season ticket holder of the Bears and very good friend of mine isnt even going to sell the tickets on Stubhub.He's leaving those 2 seats empty.

    We have to hurt the mccheapskies where it hurts them the most.

    The almighty dollar

  • In reply to johnkos:

    No offense John but he already paid for the tix. Yes they won't sell him any beer or get parking money out of him. However, they already got his $200+ for the tix months ago.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Of course his money is going out the window.No doubt.But the empty seats will be a sign of things to come if they do not bring in football people.The prices are always on the rise while the product on the field is always wrong for football.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    How long before the first 400lb Grabowski suicide bomber runs onto the field? Hopefully he's smart enough to stage his protest at Lambeau.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Your buddy is a financial wizard.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    He is a financial wizard and buying Bears tix is as cheap as renting a hooker for him.He loves the Bears though. At least he's making a start for showing his disgust.The 4th quarter with 6 turnovers really was the final straw for him for this regime.

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  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    and by the way..this avatar stays for me becasue I may jump from the NFL(DaBears) to this LFL (ChicagoBlass)!!!

    http://www.lflus.com/

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Chicago Bliss!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hilarious - listening to Antrell Rolle talk about how the Giants D is the best in the NFL after they let Dallas (DALLAS!!!) drop 35 on them...and 15 pts in the last 3 minutes of the game.
    I know the Giants beat us after they jellied Cutler's brain, but their D is all pressure up front and absolutely nothing at the safety, LB, or cornerback positions. Our problem was our QB had a mush-melon inside his helmet; they are absolutely bonkers if they think their D is championship material. Mark my word.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    funny thing is: i called the giants to win the East right after the Bears game (say what you want, but Eli is a gamer).

    and damn Mike. 90 pts? you could've at least tried lol

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Titans have the #1 scoring D in FF. Go figure.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Gints scored me absolute zero in D yesterday. Nadda zip zilch.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Jeff, I think I finally won all three games this week. Any others?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Was thinking about the play Martz called when Cutler fumbled after crossing the plane of the goal. Shouldn't a QB sneak have been called on 3rd or 4th down and not on 1st down?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    A QB Sneak with a concussed QB should NEVER be called Trac. Fucking moronic play.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey, Jay, go jump on top of that grenade!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...when you say "moronic play" is that singular or should it be plural..becausue reading the post's here and digging in on "Our Boy Roy" sounds like almost every play our "O" did was moronic or damn close to it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB/Trac-

    Not only that, they ran it towards Albert Haynsworth? What the hell?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    didn't it cross the plane and shouldn't the play have stopped right then after that?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    B85S23...that'a the official rule

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    So how is it Jay's fault.. if he did what he was suppose to do then.. he didn't mess up?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    B85S23..problem is that the "human factor" was in this play the officials never called the ball crossed the plane...so by LDL never Challenging... it was never put in the light and never given the opportunity of clear evidence. So no JC was not the problem it's on LDL.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    B85-

    No doubt it did cross the plane, but my point was the play call was questionable in the first place.

    IF you are going to sneak on first down, which is dumb in the first place, sneak away from the most talented defender.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    +1

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I have no issue with the play call:
    A.) if your guys cant get 1 yard when you know when to start pushing and they don't then you don't deserve the points.
    B.) I know damn well if they had passed it on 1st down and Cut woulda gotten picked, or they had tried a run to the right and gotten stuffed for a loss, I woulda been the first one screamin, why didn't you run a damn QB sneak!

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Totally get that ftw... but on first fucking down? Try some bad shit twice first man. Then do that on 3rd... at least then we have a shot for 3. Jebus we suck. 0-for-whateverthescarynumberis on 3-1. Just pathetic.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Did anyone see what Mike periera had to say about the Cutler qb sneak?
    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/tag/_/name/mike-pereira

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of our core players are a little banged up. I think the bye week comes at a perfect time.

    Let's see if some rest can at least make the rest of the year entertaining, which is all I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..the sad part about the bye week is...the NFL does not give "How to Challenge in the NFL" classes for I beleive LDL needs to go back to school on this.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    very true Lobo. maybe there's an opty there for you to make some extra cash? Ha.

    I've gone back to my pre-season belief that we'll get to watch some very .... uhhh... invigorating football, and hopefully we'll end the JA/Lovie era. That's all I really want man.

    I never want us to lose, but winning in the playoffs gets us what? Anyway, I don't want to get into that argument, I just want the evil curse that is JA and Lovie gone.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Either you win the superbowl or you come stone last and get the best picks. They're the only two places worth finishing. Coming second last, third last, is even better than finishing second or third.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    this just up on the Da Spin Doctors Site..I mean Da Site:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7226

    ouch...do they really beleive their own shit they shovel?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Did he just say the oline made a significant leap and played well. LOL!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Washington game is on Cutler, not the line. They played well enough to win.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Did i say that?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    285th!!!!

    That's leaves one of us Lobo.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Oh, and one place where lovie being an idiot AND a mute really helps him... Chilly... not so much: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/18527/bbao-nfl-to-fine-brad-childress

    Moron.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    +1
    He's not Doug Flutie. Sneak the damn ball.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    He didn't mess up. We scored a TD except we didn't. I believe Forte scored one a couple of weeks ago too, except he didn't. People can stick that Calvin Johnson TD up their Jaxie because when you start adding in DJ Moore's second return for a TD, we have been screwed this year more than we've been lucky by quite some way.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hee hee: http://beargoggleson.com/2010/10/25/after-getting-carved-by-redskins-cutler-does-some-carving-of-his-own/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...that's how I felt after seeing the low lights on the game from Sunday..A Pumpkin that Yack's!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Yep Lobo. Was bad.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    DM....that's our coaching

  • In reply to Dmband:

    That was my problem with it. Every now and then Haynesworth shows why he got the $100 mil contract. Fucker is a beast when he wants to be. He was having one of those games, it's obvious to everyone but Martz and we run right at him. DUH!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Did Haynesworth suddenly improve or did he go up against the worst o-line in the NFL?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac..really? A QB sneak?...If Ginny didn't have LDL'S stones in a jar on her desk he could used them(all but small)on a FU$!@#!@$#!@NG Challenge and the scope of the game may have changed.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    If Cutler can't hang on a QB sneak then he shouldn't have been in the game lobo. It's 100 times more dangerous to drop back in the pocket than run a QB sneaky between the cheeky.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    the reason why it got knocked out was b/c he stretched the ball over the plane (and haynesworth knocked it out i think). i would HOPE a DL can knock a ball out of a QB's hands. poor officiating and (worse) poor coaching by the Bears staff

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    F. London actually did FQ. Cutler held it out like a loaf. Terrible playcall on 1st (as trac mentioned).

    We should have at least tried some play action waggle goodness to the TE. Then try a corner fade (away from Hall), and if that didn't work, stick fucking melton in at RB and smash that shit to one side or another. If that failed, get the tres.

    Anything's better than nothing.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    That was the worst ever...most of the damage was McFadden (who was a f-cking FLEX play), and Bowe...
    Of course, Mr. Cutler and his four pick/one fumble day did not help my cause, but I was toast when McFadden went off for 40+.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    AFC SB champs, no doubt. I hope it's Kansas.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    LEaving season ticket seats empty may make a statement, but that's all.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    You know what Cormonster?
    You're right. We need to run the ball more with Forte's 3.9 average and Taylor's 3.6 average and punt the ball and play good defense. Then Cutler WOULD be worth the price we paid.

    You guys want Martz to pass it on 3rd and long and ONLY on 3rd and long? You think we're predictable now. LMAO

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Jay had Brandon Marshall in Denver. Even Kyle found him 20+ times in one game. And Denver *have* to pass because they can't run - and they're also bottom of their division. I don't think anyone is crowning Orton. Drew Brees and Eli Turtlehead have a super bowl each and threw six picks between them this weekend. Jay isn't going anywhere, we're along for the ride ...

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    I get your point Willie but I doubt Cutler ever changes. If we had a good OL and a #1 WR at least 50% of the starting NFL QB's would be successful.

    Look at Rodgers. Crap OL and no running game. Better WR's. What do they do? Short passes and slants. All fucking day. Once in a while they mix in a medium range pass and a bomb. It works.

    Martz and Cutler are both way too stubborn for that shit. Cutler's football IQ is not great. You may not remember Vince Evans. He was Cutler before Cutler. All the physical skills in the world. No football IQ. There's a reason not many people remember Vince Evans.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    How many would be successful given what we actually have?

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    That was my point. Lots of teams aren't great on O so they dink and dunk. I know it sucks but it is effective.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Way too soon to call the superbowl. Pittsburgh, for one, is looking really tough. And somebody in the NFC is going to catch fire (right now it looks like Green Bay or New York are possibilities).

  • In reply to mottystone:

    KC have the best running game and best O-line, backed up with a good Run D. Go Chiefs!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    As the vein in my forehead has gone down and the anueryum may bypass me. Where do we go from here?

    Our Gladiators have the Three Stooges Moe(JA) Larry(TP) and we cannot forget the fool of fools Curly(LDL)running this titanic.

    I think your right MB...and btw Our Boy Roy said about the same..let's not boo, just root for "The Bears" and just watch them, this is just a chapter in the History of this Great Franchise.

    DAMN I HATE TAKING THE HIGH ROAD!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    A7X,
    Throwing a 20-30 yard pass every 3 plays doesn't work, and it doesn't put up points. Martz has no strategy or tactics in his bag of tricks. Every team has already figured out what the Bears are going to do on offense. Pass, pass, pass. Look at the Bears 3rd down conversions. It's pathetic. It's sad to say, but the Bears offense scores less points now than the pathetic offenses we had under Ron Turner. There needs to be some balance, and setting up the long ball. Bears went from run, run, 2 yard out to throw deep every time. That's piss poor coaching.
    Another problem I have is that Cutler is not allowed to call audibles. Many high school and most college quarterbacks with an above average IQ are allowed to call audibles. Almost all pro QB's are allowed to call audibles. Not under Martz. I guess he "reads" or "knows" what the defense is going to do ahead of time. Football is a chess match. You need to know yours and your opponents strengths and weaknesses and exploit them. The Bears do not do that. After special teams and defensive points are discounted, the Bears only score about 14-15 points per game.
    THEY SUCK right now on offense.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    +1000

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    It's *still* three and outs ! Just more quickly, and instead of punting they get run right back at us. 92 yards.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You don't set up the long ball, you just throw it deep every third play.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    The Bears D is back and so are the special teams. We just need to Offense to not give points to the other team and we'll be fine. We drove down the field with the short pass and run, set up the mid range ball to Bennett, etc. It can be done. We don't need the 7step drop ever again. We can get this done with the quick toss, the 3step, the playaction, the screen and the 5 step but that is it. No more 7step. I command you Martz!! Put your hands up and step away from the playbook! Don't overthink a simple equation. Short passes from QB with strong arm and quick release and 2 pass catching running backs = driving down the fucking field at will until the corners press and then you go up top.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That's what's so exasperating, if they'd just not given away points. What's wrong with giving Robbie a Chip shot or 2 when you're already up 4?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I agree. Martz needs to get a grip. Jay is fast. He is tall, gutsy, and has a top 5 arm. Why is it that he has not been successful? Sure there's the horrid O-line, small/scary receivers, and the questionable coaching. But what about the gunslinger mentality? He has it. It's obvious he don't give a fuck about throwing a pick, red-zone or not. Oh he says all the right things afterward, "it's on me, I have to play better". But his instinct is to sling it, that's who he is. So what do you do with a QB like that? You harness his pick throwin ass! You build a dominant "D", (thanks Lovie). You get a for real run game going, (ahem...Lovie?). You only let him throw screens and short slants, (Lovie?...you sleep?). Then every now and then you air one out to see if we can get lucky. But leaning on a gunslinger to win games for you 3-run homer style is not going to work unless you got Big fast WR;s and descent O-line). Farve had lots of surrounding talent before he got successful. Jay needs that here too. Until we get it, we need to reel his ass in. And stupid Lovie is doing nothing of the sort. Geeze that was hard to watch on Sunday. I haven't yelled at the TV that loud since Grossman. Jay?!! C'mon Man!! WTF!!

  • In reply to Oaktown34:

    Great typo :-) The Bears line is (in) descent and has been for some time!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    What about Izzy ? Peanut? Moore ? Graham ? Bowman ? Jennings? They've earned spots.

    I'd get rid of Knox too if we could get a pick for him, either that or keep him on ST, he might be good there. The roster will be taken care of by the new management - their installation is all that matters. The clown car must be burned out.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Childress sucks. He sold his soul the NFL devil and has nothing to show for it (other than a boatload of money). He should've been fired 2 years ago, then they got Favre and gave him an extension. Morons.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Minny has more talent and less wins. Yay Bears. I honestly think there better with Tavarious. When he was qb they ran 40 times a game and let t-jerkoff throw a few high percentage passes.

    Oh, and if you look up Pedophile in the ole dictionary there is a picture of childress standing next to his white van and winking at the camera.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    The Vikes and Childress apparently would start Favre even if was dismembered (see Monty Python) and could just bleed on the pass rushers.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    For $20 million a year, wouldn't you?

  • In reply to kenbill:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yessssss.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Alright-

    I just wanted to take a moment and acknowledge Brian Urlacher. This guy, say what you want about him, but, this guy has played with probably the worst offenses you could possibly have...FOR YEARS. He could EASILY throw them under the bus or pass the blame, but everytime I hear him in a presser he continues to say "we can do more". He expects the defense to win the games for us. I mean, seriously, what a great great player.

    Can I get an AMEN!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    For YEARS! He's a HOF player in my book. Might not be the brightest guy but he's been one hell of a linebacker for the Bears.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Amen, DM, amen.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hallelujah brother. The silent Superman without whom we are dogshit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm still sick over yesterdays game. The worst part is losing these close games and losing when all we needed was to not turn the ball over! Every Bears fan was at home yesterday SCREAMING at their Tv for Lovie to throw the flag. Are they trying to give up the season?

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    As I said "We" won the game for the Redskins cause they couldn't do it on their own. I think we should get at least a half a win for that right?

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Now you sound like a Packer fan.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Oh gawd, don't start that shit. You'll sound like those Fudgie trolls on here no too long ago.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Not at all...just seems that way. I mean we were moving the ball fine with the short passes and the run..why quit what was working. OH well, they got 2 weeks to get it together. Here's hoping!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I have a strong urge to blast Martz some more. In two straight close games, he didn't even try to establish a running game. The last two games have basically averaged 15 runs to 45 passes. Bears have a 1-2 punch, and don't even try. When they start to show success running, Martz starts throwing. There is no continuity in the run game. It sets up lots of 3rd and longs and a position to fail. Even the pass happy successful teams don't have that kind of pass-run ratio.
    The Bears D is giving up less than 17 points a game. That should be a 6-1 record. The problem is the offense averages less than 16 points a game.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    To be fair to Martz, he tried to run it agaisnt the #2 run defense in the league and then accepted that we couldn't. they were in our backfield before the hand-off. We jsut couldn't physically run it against that team. We could run it against the Skins though, that was annoying. Taylor could move it at will, yet Forte still got put back in.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Da Coach-

    That is fucking hilarious (Childress=pedophile). Seriously...still laughing.

    Just out of curiousity, does anyone know the stats? Im guess DeAngelo Hall has more yards and touchdowns than half our receiving core.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    From that game?

    Ohh yea, did you not hear? Jay thought the other 23 would catch the ball better than our 23. He was right!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    where's Jeff w/ the picks? Shakespeare can wait...results can't.

    lol fuckin' w/ you Blogfather...well kinda.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I believe Minnehaha fans and media, alike, have a low opinion of "Chilly".

    Sounds like he threw Narcissus under the bus in the postgame presser too. Not that there's anything wrong with THAT!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Fuck Yahoo Sports - that's why it's called Yahoo...

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Joseph - Taylor is an outstanding running back.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    He's a career third down back for a reason, he or Forte can't break tackles. i would start Khalil Bell and see what he's got. At least he runs hard.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Have you seen what happens when he starts? Look at his numbers when he gets the ball in his hands and when he is a starter.

    He isn't a third down back lol

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Joe, that's crazy talk my man. I see taylor break 2-3 tackles every single time he touches the ball. The fact that they only let him touch it a few times a game means he can't get into any sort of groove. I bet if you made matty a pass catching back and gave 95% of the runs to Chet, we'd have a decent run game.

    And I am 100% for putting Bell in on short yardage with chet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I've seen him squirm his way to a first down but the guy doesn't break tackles. He's good, but him and Forte are similar runners. Forte doesn't have that initial burst and is more of a downhill runner. Not a bruiser but an all around servicable back. Having an o-line that can block might help too.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Squirm or break tackles?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Khalil bell? really? You my friend are football retarded.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    We have a win/win situation. Bears win the division, maybe a playoff game or two and we get to enjoy that. Lose, and lovie and the assclowns are run out of town.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    O.K. with All Hollow's Eve coming up I think that DA Bears are looking for that Trick or Treat message...

    Looking in the Mirror:
    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=7227

    But Vampire's don't see their own reflection in the Mirror..how is Management going to figure this out? and see themselves for what they are. Ass-Clowns!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I hope we get both Coach. Short of that, in my mind, missing the playoffs in a meaningless year is well worth ending the JA and lovie era. I don't think we'll even be good again with those two running the show. We need a regime change regardless of our record and what happens this year due to luck and NFL parity.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    from the spin:
    Believe me, we

  • In reply to Joseph:

    How messed up would it be that Jay Cutler retired early and said it was because he was worried about his life in danger.

    Could you blame him?

    I guess the bye will help us out hopefully.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667281/streakingslumping-week-7

  • In reply to Joseph:

    what I wish someone would of said to LDL after the game:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G52aaTFibHo&feature=related

  • In reply to Joseph:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667286/halls-jersey-going-to-hof-more-cutler-shots

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Awesome, Hall's jersey is going to Canton.

    Same can't be said of Jay, however.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    actually I think JC should send his jersey..Shit in it first and send it that way..

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Mister Noodle gets some roastin'.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=5729504

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...I think if LDL & Childy put their heads together ..they can make an ass out of themselves!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fScy9BgPEs

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Falcon v. Jet Super Bowl?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    i am not a huge fan of how the team has been run and how the drafts have gone but I actually believe that the quick 4-1 start is allowing us to address the issues now without falling behind in the division race. Martz shat the bed a couple of games and the media/pundits/fans called him out. He adapted in the Skins game and we had that fucking game until 4 picks in the 2nd half, 6 forced fumbles of which we only recovered 1, a pick six nullified, a pick six as we were heading in to score, a blatant hold on peppers in the endzone, etc.

    We can win these games and i think our best ball is ahead of us. i want the playoffs badly and don't care who our fucking coach is when we are there. I can't wait 3 to 5 years for a rebuilding project. No fucking way. I want to win now even if its ugly. I love watching the Bears and know we have the talent to compete with every team even if we don't have a dynasty on our hands. just my humble opinion.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    and a fucking touchdown by Cutler that wasn't challenged even though i saw it through my drunken haze in the 300 section. fucking bear down

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Ok. Everyone, I have to say this, stop hoping that we will get rid of Lovie now and all of his bff's. It won't happen. Somehow the defense is keeping us in games and so is the special teams. Which we know, Lovie has to be apart of somehow.

    Even if our record starts to become 7-9, you still won't see changes till after the season.

    Then you can hope for a new head coach or Gm because you are crazy to think any Owner will fire their GM or Head coach halfway through the season.

    I'm not saying I don't agree that we need a Head Coach who can call a touchdown but am trying to state the facts.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667251/favre-has-two-fractures-in-ankle

    "If I knew [what our next step should be], we would have done it two weeks ago," said defensive end Julius Peppers. "It's the same story every week, playing good in spots, playing good in a particular phase, it's just not all coming together at once. When that happens, if it happens, who knows when it will, then we can feel really good about the direction the team is going in."

    Sounds like the defense will give in when our record is even or more losses than win's. Can't say I blame them. Btw, I think we found our other D-end and that is the Indonjie. He did a great job, and I thought a defense they did great. Sure they allowed 125 yards and 200 something passes. But only one touchdown and 3 points was their offense could muster.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667227/urlacher-at-loss-for-words

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4667220/bears-redskins-five-things-we-learned

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Taylor Avg 7ypcarry. Forte 4ypcarry. Martz still thought passing was a better option. Idiot!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Wait... doesn't 7+4=10?

    See Doc, I did some maths!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Did the same thing GP, smh,

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Butter spent a lot of time gesturing to the crowd to ramp up the noise. he was waiving his hands up in the air, as if to say 'louder' when he was out there.

    Butter - get in your stance and play and get some pom-poms and become a Honey Bear. Damn.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    lol.. I noticed that

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I had just traded both Britt *and* Santonio Holmes for Brandon Lloyd ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Who has the bigger ego ? Hall or Cutler ? Both on display here. You just want to bitch slap Cutler for the 'shrug' and bitch slap Hall for telling Deion Sanders to watch out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAf3bIK1B70&feature=related

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh, and did you see this shit, damn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6zTJFbuzRw

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Those kinda plays are what I used to love about football. Back in the day, teams use to run all kinda stuff like that, no matter what their record. Ah yes, those were the days.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I haven't seen a play like that since the fumblerooski. Round of applause.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow! Best play I've seen in a long time! IF 55 had not so totally whiffed on his block, it might have been a TD.

    That is some seriously good shit!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That was beautiful. The future of football? A running back/punter. No reason why there shouldn't be a Brad Smith type guy in there as a QB/P/RB one day. Take what the D gives you. Sweet.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    one more for you guys: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/brett-favre-wrangler-commercial/1255771

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    you can almost hear banks giggling while he's smashing us. He literally LOVES bludgeoning us

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If you were talking about the end of his article, it sounded spot on to me.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You know what I'd be afraid of if I were Lovie Smith? The defense giving up on the offense. With the amount of opportunities the defense has given the offense only to watch them fuck things up SO BAD ... SO MANY TIMES how can you play with any hope in winning a football game. I think we saw a bit of that when Torain started gashing the Bears in the 4th quarter after the offense literally turned the ball over 5 possessions in a row. How can they possibly play under those circumstances. I mean, they've done it before for so many years, but at some point enough is enough!

  • In reply to Shady:

    The million dollar salaries ? Every girl in sight wanting to blow you ?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Nailed it. If they lose to Buffalo, a change needs to be made immediately. Honestly, I dont see any way Lovie keeps his job (im not even going to say the word S____ B___, beacuse I cant even say that without laughing).

    He's gone one way or another. His ignorance, stubbornness and just overall lack of game managment has been on full display this year.

    Lets carve a jack o latern (the face can look confused and up at the jumbotron) and put it on the top of a broom stick and set it on the sideline. We'd probably win more challenges.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hard to believe there were folk mentioning the S___ B___ after week two ....

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Cutler was throwing mindless interceptions loooong before the Giants game.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Lovie lost this team ever since that game against Tampa 2 years ago where Brian Griese torched us.

    If it wasnt for Marinelli and Urlacher and Peppers the Bears would be 0-7.

    This team needed an overhaul(GM&coaches&players) after the Bears lost in Houston 2 years ago.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Also Im all for a midseason coaching change and Dave Toub taking over.

    At least his units have always "been prepared" to play the game the past 3 years.

    Of course everything depends on McCaskets and of course a boycott of the remaining home games.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I had to comment on SD's post from last thread... Very, very well written SD - I appreciate the effort. Poetic and cutting at times.

    That said, funny comment Coach.

    For the second year in a row I am actually kind of happy that theres no Bears football this weekend... not really, but kind of.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Why wait?

    Dave Toub (Or Bill Cower) for HC NOW!!!

    Seems to me that this team needs someone on the sideline who poses an ample threat to their means of survival.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    +1.

    Toub has zero HC coaching experience, but honestly, does anyone think he could be any worse than lovie? My left, slightly smaller testical could do the same job as lovie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here is why I would give Toub a chance:

    1. He games plans very well. He identifies his opponents weaknesses and exploits them. He knows the strenghts of his units and uses them to his advantage. This is rudimentary stuff. He has been doing this for YEARS.

    2. Our special teams have been extraordinary under his leadership. This is not by accident.

    3. Financially, we can pay him less until he proves himself to be worth more, which will offset the $ to but out Lovie.

    4. I have not given up on this season, but I have given up on Lovie.

    5. It is bye week. The time has come. The season can be saved, but a leader must save it.

    What about your right one?

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I get all of that Viva... I wasn't dissagreeing with the idea as much as I was trying to point out that anyone would be better than lovie. I like toub as much as anyone.

    The right one is larger and most likely more intelligent than lovie. Also, it's much more firey... thus, I suggested the left, who reminds me a lot more of lovie. Thanks for asking.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    He's a family man though. To be a great HC you need dedication, to the team, not your family.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jesus, if peter fucking king could see that the Jay QB sneak (which I thought was a fucking inane call btw) should have been a challenge, Lovie you are even more of a tard than I thought (and that's really tuff to do):

    Goat of the Week

    Lovie Smith, coach, Chicago

    On the play after failing to get an Earl Bennett catch and run down at the one-yard-line reversed (Smith challenged, claiming it was a touchdown), Smith didn't challenge what appeared almost certainly was a quarterback sneak for a touchdown. It was one of those plays where the quarterback -- Cutler -- jumped and extended the ball over the plane of the goal line before being pushed back by Albert Haynesworth; then the ball was knocked loose by London Fletcher and recovered by Washington. If Smith challenged the call, that's seven points (in a game that ended 17-13) he could have gained if correct; instead the Bears got nothing. Figures that Smith is one-for-five on challenges this year. This was a badly blown non-challenge.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/10/25/monday-morning-quarterback-week-7/3.html#ixzz13OmK8RJ8

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    have any of you guys seen Lovie Smiths coaching Resume? I honestly dont know how he got the HC job.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    The Bears obviously wanted a great defensive mind to lead the team in prayer services three or four times a week. Maybe they thought he'd be another DUNGhy. Well, they thought correctly, unfortunately for us.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Lovie's one qualification - he was the Defensive Coordinator on a team whose offense posted 30 plus points a game. (St. Louis Rams - greatest show on turf...)

    Really. Laughable...

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    In defense of Lovie, we have a fairly good defense. We sucked last year because Hunter Hillenmeyer was our MLB amongst other things ...

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ok, one more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esbJJyicbLM

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I haven't read every word in the comments section, but at first blush it looks like nobody's mentioned Angelo. After watching what he's assembled as an offensive line he should be kicked out of the entire midwest.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Check the last thread JD. We're just sick of talking about him already.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    oh and my comment above at 1:51.

    Angelo... dead!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Is it sad that Im praying for a lock out next season so I dont have to watch this crap?

    Just kidding...or am I?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I of course agree with you about Lovie Jeff...actually he should be fired after yesterday's stupid perfomance of NOT challenging what was obivious to all a TD.

    BUT...

    It's NOT JUST the GM and Coaches...it's ALSO the OWNERSHIP. Look at what happens when Ownership changes for the better.

    BLACKHAWKS

    Bill Wirtz dies in 2007 and Rocky takes over and makes HUGE changes for the better. 2010 the Stanley Cup rests in Chicago.

    We need a total overhaul of the Bears not just a new coach or GM but a new owner or owners that care about winning football...and NOTHING ELSE. Until that happens gang we're going to get the same old shit. Half ass decisions about coaching, draft picks, salaries and the total lack of balls to bite the bullet and fire people when they need to be fired..not waiting 4 fucking years for things to get better while all you're doing is tweaking and peanuts in a turd. Flush that sucka and start the fuck over!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Oh and Kudos to our Defense and Special Teams. They did the best they could yesterday.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    You're right.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Narcissius has a stress fracture AND an avulsion fracture* in his ankle.

    * An avulsion fracture is an injury to the bone in a place where a tendon or ligament attaches to the bone. When an avulsion fracture occurs, the tendon or ligament pulls off a piece of the bone.

    Let's all send a card.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Junk-gate might be the least of his problems.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Maybe MB can send Favre a shot of misshapen marbles. That's bound to cheer him up.

  • In reply to Shady:

    whoa whoa whoa there shady... no one ever said misshapen my man. One's slightly smaller than the other. It's totally normal, I swear.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Ok..Ok...I..I...I...still have a question. Ummmm....let's see how do I ask this and not pop any blood vessels out there. We are now tied for 1st place thanks to giving up 2 EASY wins..well actually won the game for Wash after they blew the field goal..any way..we have a bye week to regroup and off to Toronto and will probably be in 2nd place if GB wins next week. So does anyone here think that in 2 weeks our illustrious leader (LDL) is going to be able to pull a rabbit out of his ass and manage to save the season? I mean it is still mathmatically possible to do it.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    It's possible, it really is, that's why Jeff doesn't think he should get his job back or be considered if he does.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    We're not tied; we own the head-to-head tiebreaker over GB and have no losses in the NFC North.
    If they win next week, they'll have an advantage in conference games (1/2 game ahead) until we play more Minnesota. That game will be pretty damn significant.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    "play more Minnesota"...yikes.
    "play more divisional games, like..."

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The longer he stays around, the more it looks like Lovie could star in BOTH ends of DUMB AND DUMBER.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Amazingly, most people on here were hoping the Pack would win. That was stunning. Why wouldn't we want to be a full game and a tie-break clear?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We're already a tie-breaker clear of them at the moment, and better to be in a two-dog fight than a three dog fight. I was happier that Favre got the shit kicked out of them than the immediate result in the win-loss column.
    The sooner that Minnesota gives up on this season and turns the reins over to TJack, the better for us. Losing to GB moved them one step closer.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Bears85-

    They have such good chemistry together, lets sign him as our #1!!!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    this was on the front page of fucking yahoo... maaaakin' friends!

    Fuck Jay: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Jay-Cutler-needs-a-little-reality-therapy?urn=nfl-279578

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yahoo sports sucks. But Cutler jawing with Hall via the post game? Weak.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think Jay just threw another pick to Hall...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So I'm reading online in The Trib that Lovie did not throw the flag blah, blah and then I read "even Troy Aikman said there was probably not enough 'indisputable' evidence".

    Bad enough Troy Aikman.
    What in the hell is enough indisputable evidence? - Does a sound of breaking glass have to occur when the ball crosses the plane?...Everything thing is disputable. More bullshit heaped upon even more bullshit...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    JUST FACE IT! this organization will always settle for mediocre players and coaches. Not goin to the playoffs for four years straight should get The GM and HC fired. Im so fucking tired of seeing and hearing the bullshit. Every year it is the same thing. Im FED UP! FUSTRATED! We aint going no where, The organization just puts enough out there to win enough games to keep us interested. Mediocre Chicago Bears. FACE IT! I honestly can say that today I am embarrasse to be seen as a Bear Fan, I love my team but I hate the people who run it.

    Martz totally Blows! It seems that the majority of plays he calls are nothing but Deep Pass plays.

    Lovie you should get your fucking ass kicked!

    Angelo do you know how to build a team?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Same way as we did last year Fres.

    Fuck that btw my man... I fucking rocked my big "C" hat again today. I had a dude snicker at me and say another tough weekend huh? I asked him who his team was and he said Raiders... I immediately just walked off laughing my ass off. I don't think he was too happy.

    Still proud to fly the colors man. We are the most storied and historied clubs in the biz. Fuck all the other teams man. I will always be proud to be a Bears fan, no matter how shitty the current (in order of importance): Ownership, the GM, the HC, his flunky coaches, many of our sub-average tallented players are.

    Bear the fuck down with your bear ballhair out!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I got some shit too, after the game I was still wearing my bears shirt and one of my friends was like take that shirt off..

    The friend was a Baltimore fan but I bugged his ass deeper by asking him simple questions about his team that I knew that he didn't.

    Eventually he admited that he became a fan shortly after being a titan, cowboy , and oakland fan.

    I hate those kinda of fans.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    SIGH.. How do we lose to home games in a row? How did we start 3-0 and then lose 3 out of our last four? IM FUCKEN DISGUSTED RIGHT NOW! sorry guys, Ill talk to yall later.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    All you long-timers know this is very uncharacteristic of me to say something like this, but perhaps his main qualification was skin color.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Tumbleweeds, Dave. Tumbleweeds.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    I don't get how Dave Toub is suddenly what we need as a HC? What happens to ST when he becomes HC. Promoting him to HC is the same as Hester to WR. Tell you who I don't want, the only coach dumber than Lovie ... Mike Singletary.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    It's almost a sick joke that we are 0-10 from the 1 yard line. Angelo bristled in the WBBM radio show when they asked him a sharp question, they said since Beekman only Williams has been drafted. Between Beekman and today there have been 141 lineman taken in the draft, why didn't the Bears draft more lineman?

    Angelo basically responded it's not about talent, it's about consistency and the same guys playing together for awhile.

    What more is there to say, when Bears senior management think talent is overrated?

    Cutler had the tools to be great, he needed a solid QB coach who would bitch-slap his attitude, and a solid line. If he went to the Jets instead of the Bears in that trade, the Jets would be undefeated. I honestly think he had that much more talent than Sanchez.

    But he's ruined. Ditka said today that Cutler is shell-shocked, and if Ditka was running Da Show, he would bench him for awhile. Angelo is not going to allow that to happen, so what happens from here will be a horror show long after Halloween is over.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I never thought of that, but its true man.. DaCoach had no problems sitting a player to help them out. I wonder if Cutler is really having some post-trama issues. That could explain a bunch.

  • In reply to Church:

    Oh, GPL, I KNOW you are going to make a cartoon this week... And I look forward to it.

  • In reply to Church:

    Also - Jeff - Buffalo to Chicago is not an international flight.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Game is being played in Canada ;-)

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Really? We gave them Doug Flutie, what more do those damn Canucks want from us?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    True, but then you took him back! How 'bout you take back Randy Quaid and his insane wife!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    No deal, we got stuck with Paul Shaeffer, Quaid evens that out.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Blaaame Canadaaaaaa !

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And that bitch Anne Murray too!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Time for countdown.

    71 days until Lovie gets fired. Jeff, can we get a countdown widget in the banner?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I know things seem a little dreary right now and i'm blown away at our pissing away of the game on Sunday but I just didn't get that sick feeling in my stomach like we were going to get pummeled and embarassed by the other team. The guys in my section and myself were actually confident throughout the entire game that we would prevail. The combination of events that had to happen for us to lose was like a Bruckheimer movie. I was in the 300 section and we knew it was a TD for fucks sake. The pick six was brutal but the combination of the Bennett bomb to the 1yard line (his third catch at the 1yd line fyi), the ensuing challenge because they didn't want to have 1st and goal from the 1, the non challenged TD on the QB sneak that we all wanted to succeed because we knew the line couldn't do it, the pick six 1 minute later that didn't count becuase of a fucking delay of game?????????? That is what caused me to sink down into my seat in rage. But then we miraculously got the ball back again, drove down the field and on 1st down with over 1 minute and 30 seconds left in the game from right around the 42yd line Jay tries to bomb it when all we needed was to continue the short passes to get into field goal range? uggghhhhh!

    I still feel we will go 10-6 but that fucking hurt me to the core man. at least we did some short passes that allowed us to drive down the field like we know we can.

    At least we aren't Dallas. They are 1-4 and Chuckie says on MNF that if Dallas wins they "are right back in it"...which i found amusing enough to bring me out of my bears induced depression.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    oh and we forced fucking 5 fumbles and they recovered 4 of them. we get one more of those in their zone and it's a completely different story as well. i'm telling you man, it was a script written by Bruckheimer.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny, thanks for that stat, I wondered after the game how many times we did that.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    and Peppers was fucking held in the endzone on the 10yard completion that should have been a safety. Holy Shit, the guy on the side of Peppers with his right arm completely across his chest holding his fucking pads. The people in my section were fucking going crazy. Just enough time for Donovan to throw it 5 yards deep in the endzone. fucking brutal.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Food for thought:

    1. We are a better team than this, but we suffer fools.
    2. The problem with blind loyalty is that it can't see.
    3. Never give your loyalty to an organization or an individual that does not share your values. It is not spent well.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    and the fucking beer guy in our section fucking sucked...

    do i need to go on about the lunacy? the only thing that kept me from hurling myself at the nearest redskins fan who was wearing a Cooley jersey and obviously had never been fellated in his life was the fact that i was pretty happy at my free ticket and the bottle of champagne/mimosas i polished off during the tailgate. I was told that i kept trying to toss my champagne at Redskins fans in the parking lot as a i screamed, "it's a celebration bitches, show me yo titties!". Don't worry, i'm not a scumbag, they were guys.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Lol, good stuff

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    DEAR JERRY,

    IF YOU WANT TO HIRE BILL COWER YOU BETTER HURRY. TOMORROW, JERRY JONES WILL BE ON A RAMPAGE.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Bill Cowher is not the least bit interested in working for the Chicago Bears.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    He will be in Carolina.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    It's as simple as A, B, C.

    "Anywhere But Chicago".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Funny.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Well, good luck with that, but there's a line around the block for Bears' seats. The next "NFL FAN BOYCOTT" I see that makes any difference will also be the first.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Have sex with Charlie Murphy...Dahkness..

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It was surreal the entire second half. Almost made be go berserk at times.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I don't know which is worse Johnny.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/10/25/brett-favre-ankle.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

    Ok, os what's the over/under on whether this assbag plays again? Think this is all bullshit and he plays next week anyway? I thought he was going to be out after all that sore elbow bullshit.

    Thoughts?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i wish Favre wasn't such a mega douche because he is a fucking warrior. He is obviously hurt and i kind of wanted that Harvin catch to be a TD but oh well, i guess we have to be tied for the lead in the NFC North. That would have been a huge kick to the nuts of the Packers which would have felt like an asian massage of our Bear nuts.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did anyone else just see that punt coverage where the guys lays out like an NFL films highlight and keeps the ball from going into the endzone? that is why i love me some football. then some idiotic rule negates it and we break for a 4 minute commercial. that is why i hate me some NFL bullshit.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah, I smply couldn't root for the vikings. I tried, but I hate them so much, I just couldn't. And dispite cheesy and max and his douche bretheren, I simply cannot hope farve and the vikings win anything. Fuck farve, fuck harvin, fuck em all

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    btw, we're sweeping the pack this year. I don't care how shitty we end up being, we're sweeping thosefucking tools.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    yeah, we will sweep them and Favre will be an amputee by the time we get the Vikes. Playoffs by any means necessary and ANYTHING can happen in the playoffs.

    i noticed something at the game on Sunday. Teams aren't afraid to kick to Manning. I like Manning as a returner but i want Hester back there so we can get the ball on the 40yd line like we used to.

    Funny story by the way. You know you married the right girl when you are in the car and you mention that Briggs didn't practice alot this past week and quietly in the backseat with the baby i hear:

    "practice?...practice? We're talkin bout practice man...practice...practice...ya know?...practice...practice man...practice..."

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ha! Congrats.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You must be ready to push a puppy MB?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This might sound crazy but numbers don't lie.

    I think it's time to bench Forte.

    He has fumbled 3 times and Taylor has 0. Just sayin..

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    settle down Artoo. Forte has carried the ball significantly more than Taylor. I agree Taylor should be on the field more, but not at the expense of our most dynamic playmaker.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-sports-guru/2010/10/in-defense-of-jay-cutlers-aloof-and-arrogant-public-persona.html

    everyone should read this. puts Cutty in a different perspective (also the "Monday Morning Quarter-Bashing of Cutler Needs to Stop" one also.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    "Even though I love both my hometown of Chicago and football, I no longer feel any emotional connection to the Bears. The way they handle the media, the $100 fee to get on the season ticket waiting list, the thousands of dollars that PSLs cost for the right to buy tickets, the fact that even preseason tickets cost as much as the annual GDP of an industrial nation, all that combined is too much of a sunk cost for this MBA to emotionally invest in them. "Don't keep throwing good money after bad" like they say in business.

    But the reason I don't care isn't because Jay Cutler looks like he doesn't care about me, or you.

    It's because I know for a fact that the people above him in the organizations don't care about me, or you."

    that last sentence is the icing on the cake.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Right on with the last sentence. When they started fucking with my pre-game drinking ritual, and making people tailgate 2-3 miles away and bus in, that was the final straw. And, if your in the north end zone (no PSL licenses), you can't take a half time piss without missing 4-7 minutes of the third quarter because there is not enough bathroom accommodations. Everyone's in a hurry so even all the sinks are used as toilets. Before I quit going to home games, we would load up our Bloody's with celery salt and eat lots of peanuts so we didn't have to piss during the game.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I'd hate to tell you how people used to get around that at Gaelic matches. I'll just say 'rolled-up newspapers'.

    And if I ever come into 2 Billion dollars boys, I'll spend the lion's share of it buying the Bears. First phone call, three people lose their jobs. Second phone call, the Honey Bears are back. Third phone call quickly followed by a wiener-shot on the slack.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Niners say Samurai can stay.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ba3af3/article/niners-owner-york-committed-to-coach-singletary-for-season-?module=HP_headlines

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP..I will say it once and will say it again..I wish we had Samurai as our HC..many of our gladiators would be shitting in their pants realizing clublovie was over.

    ....earlier post I said we need what happened when Da Coach came in...clean house..either you want to be here or not..no waffling..sorry for the pun johnny.

    problem is "Owners" the will never let a strong personality come in again...look what LIMP DICKS we have had since Da Coach was thrown out of Chicago.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I had a Mike Brown moment this weekend when I seen #30 score 2 TD's in a game. Too bad the Skins negated one with a delay. DJ Moore looks like he could be an impact player. 3 picks on the year is pretty good for a nickel back after 7 games.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Cor..I'm sure JA is trying to trade him to someone becasue he's to good for our team

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The Giants look pretty damn good right now. The offense is clicking better than when they played us and their defense is pretty damn tough They are QB killers as well...Tony Romo is done for the foreseeable future and their season is done.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    John Kitna is better than Tony Romo, I think they just got better.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Bwahahahaahahahahah.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Agreed

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    That Bills game is not the walk-over and free game that some have already counted in the W column. Their QB threw 4 TD passes against the Ravens. How many did Cutler throw against the Skins. Pretty solid run defense they have too, I give that one to the Bills. The Detroit Lions may be the new kings of the NFC North. I don't see how we can win the division without an offense. We'd have a chance if we became a run-oriented team, but that's just not going to happen while Martz is here. Lovie let Martz take over his philosophy, the guy used to be his boss and he's still got that underling mentality. This has become Martz' team. All Lovie has left is his little red hankie and fuck knows he can't even use that.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +1000

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    "Walk Over" and "Free Game".

    No such thing in the NFL. The coaches say it every week and the media writes it off as "coachspeak" when , in fact, that the difference between teams in the NFL isn't enough to live on for very long.

    Think maybe the Ravens thouight this week was "Free"?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    He threw two.

    And one of them went for 92 yards!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Can you believe our defense has 9 picks so far in 7 games, 12 forced fumbles, and the bear's are only giving up 16.3 points a game.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2010&seasonType=REG&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

    Chiefs still have the best o-line and guess who still is the worst?

    SMH.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    You could have started both KC backs on your team in FF and still had great returns.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hester should definitely be back there.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We need a #1 WR. ASAP. Knox got overplayed and cant run a route,and Hester sucks. Angelo needs to be fired yo foreal.

    What fucks me up is that we had 13 runs for 61 yrds, yea? well fuck man why didnt we run more? MARTZ needs to stop looking for the deep pass every fucking play.

  • In reply to Church:

    The problem with all of our management GP is that they actually think they know what the fuck they are doing, and that they're making good decisions

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'd go with Harbaugh as OC. He'd be perfect matched with Cutler, if Cutler can still eat solid food and stand up by then.

    Put Leslie Frazier in at HC. There's your homecoming. Guy has interviewed for the spot 7 times, and he's totally due. And nobody can play the race card from the bottom of the deck, Johnnie C style, if Frazier comes in here.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd do that too GP. Again, I would take my left and right ballzacks instead of JA and lovie.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Welcome home Leslie, we've been waiting.

    Owner of the best interception ever ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jZwQK2BtGs

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    When the enemy over runs your position, sometimes all you can do is call for an air strike at the heart of your base camp or surrender. I prefer the air strike to surrender.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, drafting for 'value'. Unfortunately it's the 'value' as decided by an oxygen-deprived moron. Cutler is the only guy that can help Cutler ....

  • In reply to Church:

    C'mon guys, he wasn't concussed last year and still had games like the Niners game. We'll forgive you the four picks you just threw Jay, just put this one in the endzone ... doh!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It makes me really, really fucking angry that Cutler will not get benched in favor of Hanie - just because Angelo does not want the press to hound him over 'The Trade'.

    It physically pains me to back a team with such a gutless and political management team, more interested in perception than reality.

    It makes me hate being a Bears fan when I contemplate Trac's observation that we loaded up on defensive talent so that Lovie could make a case for himself as a DC after he gets run from Chicago. That he deliberately slanted the free agency decisions such that the defense would rank, but gave up on the rest of the team.

    It makes me angry that our best wideout is a guy who was a throwaway pick in the NFL draft with the Cutler trade. And that he's, at best, a slot threat and not a legit #1 or #2.

    It makes me want to call Freddie Barnes, he with the 5.0 40-yard dash, and ask him to replace Hester at #1, just to go get a guy who at least can jump ball since he can't out run anybody.

    This is worse than Wanny's last year, which was a complete farce. This is a very very aggravating year to pull for the Bears....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Great post Jeff, that's what I was expecting!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The whole thing is a joke. Continuity over talent? Coming from a guy evaluating talent?! I'll give Lovie and JA credit for what they've done defensively thusfar, but sooner or later someone has to take some accountability on offense. There is clearly a leadership void both in the locker room and organizationally on the offensive side of the ball.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Wow, like Ditka had the FAINTEST FUCKING CLUE how to develop quarterbacks. Fortunately for we fans McMahon did not give a rat's ass what Dikta thought of him and ignored him whenever he saw fit. Not many QB would have survived Ditka.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Precisely. That's why it think it's bullshit that Cutler isn't 'allowed' to audible. Who ever heard of a QB that wasn't 'allowed' to audible? McMahon made Ditka look like an offensive genius.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    the uproar is too loud, the outrage to great. i'm confident that all of the positives that we saw from the offense, yes, there were positives will become more common as the season rolls on. We were deadly effective when combining the short and mid range passes with the runs and the screens.

    Martz made those calls guys, they didn't just appear out of nowhere. Jay has to take care of the ball. As long as the 7step is not the go to play all the time we will be fine. Martz will watch the tape and it won't lie. We were effective when we did the things that we talk about here on the blog. We were effective when we used our strengths (short accurate passes, screens and runs) and didn't expose our weakness (pass protection and protection of the passer).

    I'm pissed but i don't think the season is done like some do. Martz and Cutler the "ego driven pair"? Stop yourself Melissa, reivew the game film for the play selection like i know you fucking didn't.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well said GPL. Can't bench Cutler though, I mean look at our bench.

  • That's another thing, this guy is out on the piss all the time ...

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