Reasons To Curb Enthusiasm...a little

I can live with this collection of skill players.  The safety position has been remarkably solid.  The corners, especially Peanut Tillman, have played well.  The linebackers are brilliant.  Julius Peppers is just about the best defensive player in the game right now.  So why aren't the people covering and cheering on the Chicago Bears going through the roof about their 4-1 start to the season?  Why aren't fans cheering on two division and four conference victories in the first five games?  Why aren't we all reveling about the prospect of a 7-1 start to the year?  What does Mike Florio mean when he says, "Reality will eventually catch up with this team." 

Here are three things the Bears most focus on before encountering the far-more-difficult second half of their season.
The Offensive Line
Anybody else like what they saw from the right side of the line Sunday?  Would anyone fault Mike Tice for giving Edwin Williams and J'Marcus Webb another shot against the Seahawks?  
People who know more about football than me continue to tell me that the key to good offensive line play is continuity, knowing what the guy next to you is going to do before he does it.  If Chris Williams is ready to go on Sunday, I'd like to see him back starting at left tackle and leave Frank Omiyale as the odd man out, swinging in as the new sixth man.  
Whatever the decisions are, they need to be made.  The Reverend, in last week's great rant, accused the Bears coaches of approaching the o-line like it's a hockey game.  He's right.  We need to identify the five best guys and give them five or six weeks to work together.  That needs to start before the Bears face the Minnesota defensive line in four games.    

Lovie Smith's Decisions
There's a lot to commend Lovie Smith for through five weeks.  His coaching hires have been excellent.  His new perform-or-cut approach is leading to inspired game day performances.  But the repeated goes on fourth-and-one at the goal line and a stubborn refusal to remove Todd Collins from Sunday's game are the kinds of decisions that keep a team from winning championships.  I have never believed Lovie Smith is a Super Bowl winning coach.  But he's showing signs that he may become one.

Jay Cutler, Mike Martz
The development of the Cutler/Martz relationship may be dependent upon the ability of the offensive line to block but it also has to have been damaged by Martz' sacrificial lamb act in the Meadowlands.  Offensive coordinators don't apologize the way Martz did a week ago.  He seemed disappointed in himself.  And I liked seeing it.   

I also may be over-psychoanalyzing this situation but I believe Martz needs to re-earn Cutler's confidence.  Short routes.  Roll-outs.  Bootlegs.  Perhaps relying on this newfangled run game.  Cutler needs to go a game or two without hitting the ground with his brain.  There's no other choice.  And it's up Martz to make it happen.

The Bears are 4-1.  The playoffs are in view.  Winning in the playoffs is possible.  They have twelve weeks to be better.

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  • First! Good to hear you are alive, Blogfadder

  • Also, I agree regarding Williams swapping with Omiyale when he returns but we all know that this staff usually pulls the polar opposite of what seems like the right move/personnel regularly.

    Fuck Mike Florio.

    Yes the next of half of the season will be tough but we're just getting rolling and the biggest competition in our division will be the lions by then. Look at Minny's schedule right now after starting 1-3. I'd much rather the Bears gel and pick up momentum in the beginning like this while the injuries pile up in GB and the Vikes continue to suck it.

    I'm quite confident after last night's game that Favrah's consecutive game streak will end before this season does, ending his storied career.

    Someone mentioned on the blog last night how even though He costed them the game last night the ESPN folks still talked as though he was some kind of near-game-winning hero. Funny that he single-handedly lost it for them. Typical.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Not only did he throw the pick. But he refused to throw to an open man on the two point conversion and missing Percy on the second-and-ten cost them the game.

    Can we also add that he fumbled twice in the first half, resulting in six points the other way?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    It is what it is Jeff. Bottom line, if the Bears tighten up their play in all phases, the pundits won't have anything to hang there hat on when it comes to criticizing the Bears. Our turnovers against Detwoit, atrocious blocking and pass protection against the Giants and the sickly performance of Todd Collins against the Panthers to say the least. How does a coaching staff not see what all of us saw concerning Collins performance to allow that bum to throw 4 INT's? He should never have been kept in the game after his 2nd pick and I still can't comprehend why it took them so long.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I see that Minnesota is a 2 pt favorite against the Girls. It will be a toss up but I actually think the Cowboys are going to be all over the Queens. I'm calling a blowout by the pokes on the road.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Agree... don't know about the blowout part, but I think the queens are the ones that end up 1-4 this week (short week)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Beware of "Monday Night Hangover", Queens.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Here's an NFL stat for you boys.

    The Top Five Passing Teams in the NFL are a combined 11-13 on the season.

    The Teams Ranking 24th - 28th are 17-7.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    the league is weird this year. Big question is: does this mean that a pass oriented offense is NOT the key to success in the NFL?

    How about those same teams turnover margins? Willing to bet the 24th-28th ranked teams are close to the top of the league in forcing turnovers.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Jimmy, I have no idea. I'm starting to believe that the NFL simply isn't about statistics and never has been. You don't HAVE to be anything.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Yup, you just have to be good at scoring points and great at stopping your opponents from scoring. The score is the only stat that counts at the end of the day.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I agree with Turner 1000%. I'm getting sick and tired of listening to Gollum/Dungy. The guy is a stone suit and brings nothing to the table. Enough of Dungy already.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/12/the-best-norv-turner-trash-talk-youll-hear-all-year/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Dungy wins one championship, writes a book, and has decided it is no longer the Lombardi Trophy.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ONE championship with Manning.. Any one of us could have done that..

  • In reply to Church:

    Manning should've been able to trip and fall on a trophy...other than the fact that Rex-Cannon has tiny man hands and couldn't grip a football in the rain, he wouldn't even have THAT championship.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    From Neil Hayes over the other side :
    =====================================

    After two more failed attempts from the 1-yard line, including an interception, the Bears are now 0-for-9 while attempting to punch it in from an opponent's 1 yard-line this season.

    "To pull out some of these close games we have to be better in red zone in general but especially inside the 5-yard line," tight end Greg Olsen said. "It's not easy. It's a tough area to punch it in but you have to be able to convert those. In the first five games we've had our fair share of tough times down there but we have a long way to go. We need to obvioulsy do a better job when we get down there."

    >> yeah, especially with you blocking, Hairstyle.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That's the craziest stat of the year. The Bears are 0-9 from the 1 yard line, but remain 4-1. I'll take it.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That is an indictment of our O-line, not the tight end. Yeah, he needs to collide with someone, but no push from any of the linemen, most consistently the only guy on the field that knows when the ball is actually going to be hiked. Olin Kreutz is a lump of turd on the field every play. He does not move more than 4 yards. When he gets 4 yards from where the play started he falls down. This is why they don't call any roll outs. When Kreutz penetrates that 4 yard force field he will definitely fall directly on his ass. He is the turd of the team. A dingleberry of the O-line. Olsen is just the hair he is stuck to.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Great to hear from you Mikeb. Now where's Rancid? That could have been his take!

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Jeff- Today's game pretty much answered all the questions you posed in the first paragraph.

    We wish you were not in New York, as a Bear fan and a theater practitioner, We think we've got the thing for you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMCIzEK4nP4

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If he dies, he dies.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    http://www.moronail.net/images/stories/dg_pictures/1010/379454BD069F-1.jpg

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Speaking of 0-9 at the goal line

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    On the pitch out to Forte for the TD, they lined up Pro Set with both Taylor and Forte in the backfield.

    That package with 1TE and 2WR, is an effective package. Both can swing out, the D has to play the screen either way, the opposing LBs have a lot of assignments that can go wrong there.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Anyone else sick of hearing IS bash Olsen every other post?

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Nah, kinda enjoy it. The man has problems blocking and running routes but still starts. Let me think, who can do both really well but is inactive every time?

    Dez Clark.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Dez Clark is fucking old balls. I get it, he was a good solid player for us for many a year, but he's the worst TE on our roster.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    When has Dez failed us now? He had a drop touchdown pass? That's it? Come on. You know, Olsen can't block like Dez.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Chargers placed linebacker Shawne Merriman on Reserve-Injured with a calf injury

    This means Merriman must be released by the team when he becomes healthy. Career in SD over

    Distinction to be made here: Shawne Merriman can play again this season for another team. But he is finished in San Diego

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Merriman hasn't been a factor since he had to stop taking the "juice".

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Let's face it, no one in New Orleans is asking "Who Dat?'' in the past few weeks. Because the answer would be, well, Atlanta, and then Arizona have both beaten dem Saints (3-2). Dallas and Minnesota can't even find their way out of the fog this season, and if you don't quite believe in either the Packers or the Giants just yet, well, join the crowd. Atlanta has been solid, but far from spectacular, and you just know the Bears' magic-carpet ride has to end at some point. Doesn't it?

    Don banks seriously thinks we are more lucky than good.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Mustache, Manu is the worst TE on our roster. OK, OK, he's technically a sumo wrestler in stretch pants, but they have him down as a TE. It's not my fault.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    A "light at the end of the tunnel" for the CBA and the 2011 season...?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-nflmeetings

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Not after watching Olsen let Cutler get blown up from the blind side two weekends ago.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    The blame for Cutty's concussion should be placed on the offensive line. Period.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    If the TE is staying in to block, he IS part of the Offensive Line.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And if you want to go back and watch that blindside helmet-to-helmet hit from Osi, and blame that hit, the one that almost certainly concussed Jay the first time, on the linemen, you, Crown, are out of your fucking gourd.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtHSaT5AjU
    at about the 4:45 mark. The line slid right with Cutler rolling behind them and all Olsen has to do is slow Osi down. Nope - boom - concussion and Jay is seeing magic unicorns on the sidelines from then until he gets pulled.
    I'm not attacking Olsen for his receiving; he's great at that, but that missed block was abso-fucking-lutely critical.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    We don't know when Jay was concussed or if he suffered multiple. (I was pretty sure he did it when his head bashed the ground on the Ross blitz.) All he has to do was slow Osi down? He's one of the best pass rushers in the game; not an easy task. Something no one on the line could do against him all night. He swung and whiffed on that one, you're right. But, for the money he got, I just think we should be way more critical on Manu's blocking MBP.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I agree - I wouldn't give Manu a free pass on anything; he sprang one big run. His pass blocking has been atrocious, especially the second time you watch. Manu was sold as being a critical piece of the puzzle in protecting Jay and he hasn't done shit.
    And he can't catch anything.
    My point on Olsen's "block" is also that he wasn't even being asked to block Osi one-on-one; he was cutting him to buy just an extra half-second. After watching that tape twice now, I am absolutely certain THAT is the play that Cutler was concussed on, long before the final hit of the half on that CB blitz.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I don't know if Olsen got any targets last week but he had zero receptions. Could be Martz was punishing him for the poor performance against the Giants.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think that's looking a little too deep Trac. I don't think Martz would punish one of his best recievers like that. Reception stats from last week should be a wash for all eligibles because of a certain number 10 that should be counting his 1 mil stack and looking for something else to do.

    When your QB throws 6 passes, 4 for INTs with a passer rating of 5.7, many of your players are going to have zero receptions.

    Collins looked concussed before he even got touched. Maybe old balls needs lasiks.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    So I guess that settles that question. In my book, it's basically, play better and people won't call you a fag anymore A7.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    There are other people that deserve the bash more than Olsen.

    Like, say, Roberta Garza.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Exactly. Garza has been maybe the worst link on the line. Probably tied with Omelette and Shaeffer.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Shaffer should be a plug-in; Garza has looked bad, but then again, no one has really looked good at guard in the last two years. There's one common denominator for that period of time and he has a bum Achilles.
    Omiyale has, other than a couple of bad false start penalties, been a bright spot on the line. If anybody has taken a beating on this blog disproportionate to his performance this year, it's been him. Shaffer was awful at LT and can't run-block at RT, so I'm fine with Webb getting ALL of the snaps at RT and letting Omiyale either stay at LT or become the swing tackle. But CW has the 1st round status, so back to the bench (or god forbid, back to an interior line position) will go Omiyale.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shows what I know, it's CW that's moving back to the interior.
    Wow.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    I don't get why people rag so hard on Olsen compared to others. Because he was a number one pick? If that's the case, then shouldn't Chris Williams be getting criticism like this. He certainly has been less worthy of a first rounder to date.

    Olsen is second on the team in recieving yards, catches and TDs. By the end of the year, I garauntee he will be in the top ten in most major categories for tight ends, like he was last year.

    If you haven't seen the chemistry on the field between Cutty and Olsen, then you're as blind as Stevie. Jay feels comfortable throwing to him and I got no problem wit dat. His speed seems to have improved a bit. He beat out that Dallas safety on his 40 yard TD run and catch (got a nice block from Bennet though.)

    I'll admit his coifed hair is a little puss, but he doesn't look like a girl as much as Tom Brady. That dude has entered the tranny lady boy zone this year.

    Players that deserve such srutiny: Garza, C. Williams, Shaeffer, Todd Collins, Omelette, ManofMoohlah, Tommie Harris, M. Anderson.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.moronail.net/images/stories/dg_pictures/1010/379454BD069F-1.jpg

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    ...and, of course, you can't spell "Dungy" without the "DUNG".

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    73.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I saw how you did that Irish.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It's true 43% of the time.

    In other news, Carrie Fisher has come out and said that she was high on coke filming the Hoth scenes in The Empire Strikes Back.

    No shit Carrie. Plenty of snow on that planet all right ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It "bears" repeating...

    "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."
    -Mark Twain.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    For the past month or two I have been commenting here and there but for the most part I haven't written any books like some of the other guru's here. I guess I've pretty much just been trying to get a handle of what kind of a team we have. Watching Collins this weekend actually improved my perspective of who the Bears are and who they need to be if we will have any post season success at all. Somehow, by watching the Anti-Cutler stumble around against the Panthers, I started to realize how lucky we are to have Jay and without him in the starting line-up...forget about it. Collin's ineptitude made me realize how dependent the hopes of our team rests on the success of #6 under center, period. I also got to see how Martz's system "must" have a certain type of QB running his offense in order for his scheme's to work. I don't know about you guys but it didn't take long watching the game on Sunday for me to start having Cutler withdrawals. I even caught myself asking if this was all just a cruel joke, half expecting to see Jay walk out of the locker room after halftime, dressed and ready to play. The way I see it, Jay Cutler currently employs Lovie Smith, Mike Martz, Mike Tice, Nelli, Dave Toub and yes, even Jerry Angelo. If they want to keep their jobs, I suggest they spend every waking moment from now till the end of the season, figuring out ways of how to protect him.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Turnover margin is THE NFL stat, in my opinion.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Tell that to the Carolina Panthers who intercepted 4 passes and still lost Albert.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    How much of that can be traced to the new handfighting rules for pass interference?

    I've seen several offensive pass interference calls so far.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    We are clearly hurting by not keeping Juice Williams and running dedicated Wildcat plays. We snapped the ball to Hester against the Panthers, nobody is fooled and we know he's not going to throw it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd be all over a player like Juice that can come on like a Brad Smith (is he awesome or what?) and change things up.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Juice Williams? come on man, your better than that

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I think the numbers are usually there, but this year, has been totally different.

    All that matter are touchdowns. That's the number we need to always have more than the other team.

    Like Brian Urlacher said to the all those yards that Arron Rodgers had, "Who won"?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Can I bet children on that spread? organs?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Wouldn't a tie, putting them both at 1-3-1 be absolutely HILARIOUS?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Martz still baffles me, and i can't jump on the "he's a genius" boat quite yet. Last week with "he who must not be named" is a perfect example.

    I give credit to this season so far on rock solid play by the whole defense, the baffling( yet genius this offseason) jerry angelo/ julius peppers acquistion, and the reassurgance of Brian Urlacher from 2005.

    We're playing like we should with the shedule we've been handed thus far, and that is something to be excited about. We've had 5 games against teams with a combined 8-16 record, with our one loss against the only team that looks to be legitimate threat in the NFC after these past two weeks.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    A lot of us see what you just said pizza. I'm in Jeff's camp on this one. You take the wins, work out the kinks, and hope that by the time the schedule flips, we will have improved enough in our area's of weakness to where it won't be the issue it is now. This team can make the playoff's with what we have now but in order to win in the playoff's, we better fix our broken parts.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    These next three weeks are huge as far as our offense proving itself. We are a good team. We are a playoff team. If all three phases play well at one time, i think we can beat any other team in the league. Dare i say drink the kool-aid and win it all?

    We need these three weeks to Gel, get the continuity on offense that we have on the other two phases, and show the 4 letter and everyone else the we're for real.

    Time to Bear the Fuck down.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    Seriously man, I'm a curious boy, were there six other 'pizzatimes' registered on CN ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    im the 7th pizza man ever.

    fact.

    see what i just did there?

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    Damn! It just dawned on me that I was in Chicago all weekend and didn't even have as much as a SLICE!

    What. A. Doofus.

    I DID get to PARKY'S in Forest Park for a Chicago Dog and bag of greasy fries, though!

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    No.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    Forget "3 Weeks'.

    Or, "2 Weeks".

    All that matters is "THIS week".

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    The Giants kicked the frakkin crap out of us, they still look better than us. Big powerful backs, good receivers. Good solid defense.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I don't think Martz is using Cutler's mobilty near enough.

    Mike, this isn't the statuesque Kurt Warner here.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nail on the head Albert.

    Designed rollouts, bootlegs on play-action, where are they?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It can't be any more dangerous than staying in the pocket with our current group of blockers.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I've always read that Martz had a huge ego. I believe it now. There's no other explanation for calling pass plays in the 1st half against the G-men. Fuck me, after about 4-5 sacks give it the fuck up, run the ball and get into the locker room and re-group. It was 3 to fucking nothing! The second time his ego reared its ugly head was keeping Collins in the game and throwing the ball. After that INT at the goal line Collins should have been shot and Hanie inserted into the game. Nothing but stubborn pride both times. Don't get me wrong, I like Martz and by the end of the year I think our O will be pretty good. However, never let your pride make an ass of you.

    People want to blame Lovie for everything. He's no great shakes as a coach but he lets the OC pretty much do whatever he wants. Shea and RT both should have been bitch slapped numerous times and never were. No reason to think Lovie would interfere with a real OC.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Ego or, no, don't forget, Martz stood up and took full credit for the "Meadowlands Massacre".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Lovie's the HC. I've *never* seen him say "I got it wrong." He lets everyone else fall on their swords. The Captain must go down with the ship.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Lovie never really says anything.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al, all we have to do is keep on winning...or should i say let teams keep beating themselves...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I give him a lot of credit for doing it.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I think we are starting to revel in being 4-1 a bit now Jeff. We're still shell-shocked from seeing what happened to the Franchise against the Giants. And he is our Franchise. We don't have a Steve Young on the bench, champing on the bit, ready to step in for Joe Cool. Guys like Thigpen, Rosenfels, Pennington could have been tendered carrots or sugar lumps, but Angelo felt bolstered by Hanie and Collins? Is there anything left to be said about the fool's incompetence? Our QB. Our O-line. Our general depth on roster. Jamar Williams. Brandon Marshall. Jebus H. Freist.

    Fail to prepare. Prepare to fail.

    O-line
    ======
    Edwin Williams. Webb. Fine. But they got a lot of playing time agaisnt the Giants too, remember. We don't suddenly have an O-line because we put up 200+ yards running against a woeful 0-5 team. We ran for 200+ yards because of 3 TE sets and we were playing the 27th rush defense in the NFL. Let's see what happens against the #2 rush defense. Apparently CW will be playing LT, which hopefully means the worst run-blocker on the Bears squad doesn't play. Let's see. As you say Jeff, they'll need to time to gel anyway, I'm glad the tough part of our schedule is later on.

    LDL
    ====
    No complaints other than two points-related decisions. The roster is not his fault. Don't know who Shabba pissed off, but we need him back.

    Martz/Cutler
    =============

    Forgiveness. Martz came out and said "My bad." Good. That's a start. He placed too much faith in his line and receivers and has admitted the line sucks, and he knows better than anyone on here that our receivers do too. Not one polished receiver on the squad and if Bennett's name gets mentioned, I'll puke. Not one. Shabba is as close as it gets to getting the job done. Just look at his highlight reel and see what we're saying that we don't need. "We're fine with Hester/Knox/Bennett." Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. The longer Shabba is denied looks, the more Cutler will be looking at busted routes, dumb receivers literally running into each other and midgets lost behind defensive lines. All the speed in the world doesn't help you if you're not smart and can't play the game and don't know your playbook inside out. Telling me Martz didn't want Marshall or T.O.? Cutler just needs one receiver and we can't give it to him. Olsen is a hairstyle. Kellen's on the bench. Forte and Taylor do well but they're not *receivers*, they're backs! get Cutler a new toy to play with or at least shine up Shabba and turn him loose. We've got some time to gel that line, but our receivers won't get any better.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    While in Chiacgo all weekend (Did I mention the traffic there sucks?)I listened to a lot of ESPN 1000 and they were surmising that Shabba wasn't showing enough zeal for the non-pass-catching areas of responsibility (Can you say "blocking" boys and girls?) being a wideout.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Shabba is a pussy basically. He thinks he's Neon Deion.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I don't understand the Shabba love. The guy has a couple good games in garbage time last season, and that seems to blind many to the fact that the guy has never stuck on a roster in the league.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Martz specifically said that this receiver core will be the strength of this offense. Did you not see the open receivers in the Giant's game? I think you want, I want, or more like we all want, that receiver that Cutler trust. I still don't think Jay trust any of our receivers. I think that became evident against the Giants.

    I hope Martz turns out to be right.

    Before we played Carolina, we're they not good at playing the run? Because I thought that was why we had a chance of losing since we all knew Todd Collins wasn't going to throw without his Viagra.

    I don't care how much you suck. 200 yards is 200 yards. I will take it. They have to be doing something right.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I was calling for DA last year when we really weren't getting any WR production and his ass was on the bench. But, lets not get out of control on Shabba. His highlight reel would only be about a minute. He showed signs at the end last year, but the dude is a long time practice player that no one else wanted. I think he can help, but he's no pro bowl reciever. Again, we don't need a #1 in the Martz spread offense-everybody is supposed to get the ball. Either Knox or Hester will have a hundo this week versus a mediocre D. Book it.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Amen Crown. Should have read ahead before I posted my last comment in this thread...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Two games up on GB next week (hopefully) and the Minnesota implosion all bodes well and we should feel confident and relatively good about things. We're one of only two teams in the NFL with four wins. But my own pre-season worry, the Lions, might have something to say about it. You can't spend all those high draft picks and not have something to show for it one day ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Unless you're Jerry Angelo! (SOMEONE had to say it, right?)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I love the bootleg. If nothing's there, you're already in a position to toss it into the cheap seats.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Or, if you're tremendously concussed and think you are in a schoolyard production of "Guys and Dolls", you can run it out of bounds still clinging to the ball.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    How many pundits had the Bears winning a max of 6 games this year? Surely they couldn

  • In reply to GoBears:

    ..and are they ever P.O.'d about it.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    +1000 JEFF.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    Old man Collins stayed in because Martz doesn't want to go to Hanie, pure and simple. He was a Ron Turner guy. Maybe at practice he doesn't pick things up. Beats me. But Martz has wanted a veteran backup since he showed up. The preseason shoulder injury was his chance to get one of his guys in there... and poof, Collins appears.

    Terrible signing that the organization, otherwise, didn't think it needed (why do you think they were SO cheap about it). My two biggest issues with Martz has been his insistence on Collins and Malemaleuna (sp?). The latter at the cost of Dez Clark being an active contributor. Still... can what an upgrade over Ron Turner.

    This Offense has a LONG way to go. Some of that has to do with the O-line getting sorted out. I feel like an equal factor is everyone learning the new Martz gameplan. Its super complicated. Football players are not smart (in general). I think we're still seeing some growing pains and will continue to. They say it take 1 season to get comfortable in a new offense. We don't have that much time, but I have a feeling we will see a more polished product in the second half of the season.

    We are one terrible road game from being 5-0. The D has top 5 potential. Special teams are good with potential to be excellent (once again). The O is young and inexperienced in this system. Give them some time to grow up. Give Martz more time to get a feel for his personnel.

    We can win the NFC north. The Pack are falling apart. Finely is out for 3 weeks. Rodgers might miss the next game. 2 or 4 starting LB's are out. yikes.
    The Vikes are fucked with a hard stretch of 3 games coming up (Dallas, at Packers, at Pats). They will be lucky to go 1-2, 0-3 is a realistic possibility.

    Da Bears, on the other hand, have Seattle, Washington (at home) and then @ the Bills. Don't know what to think about the Redskins, but 2-1 or 3-0 seems realistic.

    I'd rather have our toughest stretch at the end of the season, when we know where we stand in the playoff picture and our team has had time to mature. Let's hope there are no big injuries.

    Is there any reason to think we can't beat anyone in the NFC (or NFL, for that matter)? I'm pretty pumped and a 11 or 12 win season isn't out of the question.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Jimmy, Manumanumanu is still recovering from a knee injury and had a rough start to the season but had a good game blocking last week including the block that sprung Forte for his long TD. Let's continue to watch him improve. I love Dez though so if Manu is not consistent throw DC in there

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Correction Jimmy, we've *won* the NFC North. Beat Detroit in Detroit, done deal.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Excellent point Jimmy, and one we only really mentioned pre-season. It takes about two years with the same players to install the Mad magicians gameplan mentality. Takeup time and repetitions. And there we are wondering why it isn't all cosy a few weeks into the first season of it. It's just a lot easier to bitch.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Regarding Mike Florio, if there's any justice in this world, "Reality will eventually catch up with" HIM and he will no longer darken our doors with his drivel.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    I have to disagree about football players not being smart.. Almost all of them have a four year degree. If you can pass Econ2 then you can learn any scheme(I think)

  • In reply to Church:

    I would also propose that one factor that differentiates which guys coming out of college make NFL rosters is brainpower. That is, the smarter guys have an advantage and the league to some extent "selects" for them - you know, in a Darwinian way.

  • In reply to pizzatime7:

    I just don't get how anyone can think they can play the game of football without at least pretending to want to run it. if it takes our roster three TEs, then play three TEs. Dez, Kellen & Manu. Sit Olsen and make him re-evaluate his life in football they way they did to Shabba.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I agree about sitting Olsen, hell sit him like they are doing to Clark.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Olsen is our best TE.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    ...a WIDE open man on the two-pointer.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    I still just have no faith in this coaching staff. Bad decisions last game:

    1. Getting away from the run game
    2. Throwing on third and goal from the one
    3. Not pulling Collins after the second interception
    4. Taking 53-yard field goal with 4 minutes left up 11, instead of punting (although that one worked out, it could have been disastrous if blocked, and there's basically no way to lose if Maynard punts)

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    I figured it out, problem solved.

  • In reply to Ufficio:

    As much as I love automatic Gould, no point in having a kicker who can't boom the long ones. Scobee could be 60 yards out but they know he could do it if needed. Nice to see Robbie get one over 50.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Yes.

    Commentators please take note:

    Robbie Gould (The "U" is silent. Like in "Tomato".)

    53 Yards.

    On Grass.

    OUTSIDE.

    So, SHADDAP, already about his "lack of range".

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    My font is tiny and I can barely read it. It only does it on the Bears Blog so there must me a setting I need to change on this page. Does anyone know how to do this?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac, your font is fine, you're just getting old. Ha!

    Ok, ok... not sure what browser you're using try this; hold down the ctrl button and hit the number "0" at the same time. See if that works.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    zoom in on the webpage.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    That's it Artoo, show off your droid-skills ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    lol if you are using internet explorer, look in the right corner of the web page, you will see zoom with a magnify glass next to it. Just hit it till you can see the font again.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think Martz/Lovie left Collins in there hoping to rub some rust off him and to see him play his way back into reality. I don't think it was stubbornness. Odds of our needing all 3 QBs this year are high.

    Similarly, the goal line tries were good learning experiences which we may not have liked at the time, but none lost a game. Maybe next time Dez looks back a fraction of a second earlier and catches a poor pass; maybe Forte is given more leeway to bounce outside since there are no interior lanes.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey everybody, Trac has a tiny font !!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Remember: "Size doesn't matter".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    bullshit lol

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Agreed on almost all points, Jeff, nice post. I'm not ready to say everything's fine because we beat up on one of the worst teams in the league, but you're right... we're seeing things we haven't seen from these guys before, and if we can get some consistency (in the OL, in the running game, in the pass rush), then I do think this team will only get better over time.

    I do still worry about Cutler's implosions in night games, though. Would be nice to see them get that under control.

  • I would say two things right now should prevent us from getting too far ahead of ourselves, and they're both on offense - one is the obviously makeshift and ever-changing line, and the other is related - the lack of a power back/power offensive line that makes short must-have yardage unattainable in the traditional way.

    Other than that, we have a defense that looks back to 2006 form, special teams that look back to 2006 form, an NFL that looks like it's back to 2006 form (i.e. no unbeatable teams, a lot of weakness showing), we have a quarterback that is in some ways like the Rex Grossman that played in the Super Bowl but who is obviously much better than the 2006 Grossman, we have a running back tandem that can hold its own and then some with the 2006 crew, we have better offensive coaching than 2006, jury's out on defensive coaching but I've been very happy thus far.

    So the only negative I see is offensive line not as good, secondary is not as good as then, and we're lacking a power short yardage game.

    With the improvements possibly countering the deficiencies, and hoping that we may have lucked onto something with the Willams/Webb combo, we may just have the recipe for greatness this year, as shocked as I am to say that.

    Also, re: Lovie, my personal belief is he let Martz continue to play out Collins and either Lovie pulled the plug after the 4th or Martz and Lovie collectively did. But I felt like I got serious signs that Martz was being overruled when the game finally moved back to running after a bunch of stupid ass pass calls and resulting stupid ass interceptions. Somehow I want to give Lovie credit for that. Oh, and Todd Collins (there, I said his name) DOES throw like a girl, he seemed every bit as bad as Jonathon Quinn.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Yeah for real, when do we get an actual banger of a FB? Dez is many things, but a FB he is not.

  • Wouldnt that be his "Floozy in JOYSY?"

  • Not if the punter is standing on the opponent's 45 and had instructions to angle it out of bounds.

  • I wonder what people will be saying when we are 5-1?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    They'll be saying that we'll get skinned the next week.

    Can Lovie seriously be contemplating starting Cock Collins against the Hawks? We won't be able to run the ball against them, so what genius plan would Martz have up his huge sleeve then ? Shotgun quick slants on the first three downs hoping to get it into FG range? We might win this one 6-3.

    Get well soon Jay. We love you.

    Bear Nation.

    XXX

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Careful with the Love you Jay thing. Some one is gonna hit ya with a "Gaylord"

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB4P_VMNGYQ

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    And let me wish all DBBers a very early merry Christmas. Grab a free Chicago Bears Firefox persona on me :

    http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/gallery/All/search?p=chicago+bears&search.x=0&search.y=0

  • Hey Apollo Creed, remember when the big Dolph Lundgren guy hit you so hard in the side of the head he killed you?

    We wish you stayed dead.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Lmao nice one GP

  • The fucktard littered his site with Google Ad links. He probably makes a penny when a link gets clicked. He's shakin his moneymaker. So to speak.

  • You site sucks nuts Creed. Go spread your word someplace else.

  • 100% GP. I think the double back set is perfect for us. I loved the quick pitch to get forte outside the tackles (where we usually get blown up) in a split second... it can be risky, but effective. And not knowing who's going to get the handoff, or which swing route or screen will be throws must be super hard to defend.

    More of that please.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And mix it up by putting Cutler in the gun sometimes.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Cutler just looks more comfortable when he's on the move oddly enough. His accuracy is suprisingly better when he's rolling out or getting out of the pocket. Like Al said, he's not like Warner where he's best just sitting in the pocket. Get this kid moving.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    +1 Crown

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Appreciate the credit, Crown.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ha! I was fucking joking about buying the squirrel booze but then i took a shot and emailed the brewery in Scotland. They deliver to the USA and for a bargain price of 40euros. I am buying a 12 pack of Tactical Nuclear Penguin and Sink the Bismarck for the rest of the season. As we ride the wave to the playoffs i will be riding off into the sunset of an early death by blacking out with a 38% abv Pale Ale. Holy Shit! I'm Fucked!

    SUPER BEARS SUPER BOWL

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Nice Johnny!

    Dude, send me that shit mang. Post it. Love that the squirrels are back.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    www.brewdog.com

    legal disclaimer:

    Waffle shall be held harmless when one of you crazy idiots blasts through one of these nuclear bombs and goes to prison or robs a pizza hut or some shit. Please enjoy your rocket fuel responsibly. hee hee.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Waffle -

    Avoid zombie squirrels.

    http://www.fearnet.com/shows/zombie_roadkill/index.html

  • In reply to gpldan:

    best favre sign?

    Pick 6? More like pick 5 1/2.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Having split backs is an excellent weapon, and the fact that both backs are good recievers means that Martz can work a lot of his magic on play action and dump offs as well.

    It would be nice if we also have a true fullback for a more effectie I formation as well. You can't have everything, but a solid leading blocker could provide a workaround for some of the O-line's shortcomings.

    Unfortunately, the 2 TE and other max protection sets we run aren't really doing a whole lot to protect Cutler, so we might as well give him more targets to get rid of the ball instead of pretending to be something we are not.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    People you meet, do they all seem to know you? Do even your old friends treat you like you're something new?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    nice

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jermichael Finley out for the season now instead of 3 weeks. Da docs decided to repair the meniscus instead of removing it. BIG big loss.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Packers tight end Jermichael Finley has told teammates he is done for the season, reports Jason La Canfora

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Shame for them. He is a beast. Our two-deep safety D is going to look even better against the Pack next game.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    IN all honesty, I like seeing the packers lose, but really I want their Best players out there for the season playing. I want my Bears to beat a healthy Packer team str8 up, not a banged up one.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Breaks of the game. I didn't hear any Packer fans lamenting the fact that Urlacher and Pisa missed vritualy all of lastr season.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    True that, I just think to be the best you have to beat the BEST.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    i hear ya Fresno but that means no team has ever been the best because no team has ever made it through the season completely healthy.

    When we win the super bowl this year, Waffle will put to the knife all naysayers that try to rain on my parade. (channeling my inner Magwa)

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Sounds like something from a Chuck Norris movie.

    The NFL is a war. Teams with deep talent and lucky stars prevail.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    FANTASY: Anybody wanna trade a RB for DUSTIN KELLER TE and BIG BEN QB

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    "Any, anybody wanna talk about Percy?"

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    anybody wanna see my penis? anyone?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    "Is this thing on? Hello? Percy? Percy Harvin? Anybody seen my cellphone?"

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Can Williams actually play guard? Didn't we experiment something like this last year?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Dial 1-800-ROMBERG

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sports/football/canadian-offensive-lineman-brett-romberg-waiting-to-hear-from-nfl-club-104433574.html

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    "Brett Favre

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This one is for Narcissus

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX624oTnGhY&feature=related

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yeah, but only because he read the comments on Deadspin.
    Face it, you'd be crying too.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ah yes, Pig Ben is back, isn't he?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Has anyone else heard about moving Chris Williams from L Tackle to L Guard. Thought I heard it mentioned on the radio.

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Nevermind I found it. Holy crap are they diverting from the norm at Halas Hall.
    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/bears-shuffle-o-line-move-chris-williams-to-guard.html

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Shit - I am surprised...I did think he was worth a shot at FB though.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    LOVE what the Bears are doing moving Garza out of the starting line-up and inserting Williams at LG. Garza has been the week link in my opinion this whole time. Sunday will be the true test.

    Go Bears

  • In reply to jbenton:

    Yes Jab, it's a done deal. Evidently his play at tackle wasn't very good and Garza's play hasn't been very good because of injury.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/13/with-cutler-back-bears-offensive-line-gets-a-facelift/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    He played LG at Vandy his Sophomore year?

    Roberta is done? Sheesh.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Nope!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Agreed Al,

    It's their turn. People have always seemed to overlook our injury issues in the past. Like we should still be able to win when some of our "top players" aren't able to perform due to injury i.e Mike Brown, Brian Urlacher, Pisa, Forte, dare I say...Rex Grossman?! Hey he sucked, but he was "our quarterback".

    Let's see how they do if Rogers is out along with thier #1 and #2 TE's, along with a couple of THEIR stud linebackers. See how that works out. Suck it easy.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Suck it easy indeed Matty.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    A win is a win. Especially against the Packers.

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