Poor Poor Pitiful Cutler

I don't mind when a quarterback throws interceptions, especially when those interceptions are the result of trying to make a great play.  But that's not what took place yesterday at Soldier Field.  What happened on the lake yesterday was a quarterback - with careless disregard for his teammates, coaches and fans - throwing away a football game and quite possibly a season. 

Lovie not challenging the game-changing touchdown was bad enough.  The offensive line's first half was bad enough.  Donovan McNabb failing to get his pick six off on time was bad enough.  Jay Cutler was worse.  Worse than his head coach and offensive coordinator.  Worse than his offensive line.  He missed wide open backs in the flat.  He missed a wide open Devin Hester on a crossing route that could have gone for days.  His interceptions - all four to Mr. Hall - each revealed the singular flaw in Cutler's regressing game.  What is that flaw?  Jay Cutler is not a smart quarterback.  He's an arrogant thrower with no game sense.  On each of the interceptions, the pass had no business being thrown.  How does one teach a player to be intelligent?

As I sat in the bar watching the Vikings and Packers, a buddy turned to me and said, "I love watching this moron [Brett Favre] play quarterback but I am so happy he is not the quarterback of my team."

Unfortunately, I think he is the quarterback of mine.

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  • First comment, first post!

  • In reply to ColumbusBear:

    Thou art truly blessed ... and lucky that MB's not awake yet. Wilkommen.

  • C'mon Jeff you could do better than that - today would be a perfect day to let the Reverend do his thing.

    Jay Cutler certainly fucked up yesterday, but I think you're missing the bigger picture. This team, this organization is not built - nor hat it ever been built - to run what Mike Martz and Jay Cutler want to do. If Angelo had actually put Cutler in a situation where he might have the slightest bit of success - we wouldn't see his trust issues with the WRs and the cumulative effect of getting hit in the head week after week after week.

    I'm not saying Jay isn't partly to blame for what happened yesterday, but to blame it all on the QB is weak and honestly, I was expecting more from you today.

    It's rare that I'm more angry the day AFTER a loss than the actualy day. Even having today off I'm still pissed. I can only imagine how the readers at work are feeling today after such ineptness on offense. Yet. Again.

    The problem is bigger than Jay Cutler and we need to start holding the (blind) architect of the offense responsible: Jerry Angelo.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yesterday's problem was not Angelo. It was Cutler.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    how so when you're throwing to a spot and not the open receiver? i counted 3 (some say 2) picks on the receivers not finishing routes...c'mon Jeff.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Sorry, Mayor Blogfather, not to totally dismiss well -deserved citicism of Cutler's 'perfomance' yesterday, but Hester and Knox constantly cut routes off and hang him out to dry like yesterday's laundry. Even avowed Bear-hater, Troy Aikman, pointed it out. Your criticism of Cutler cannot not include his receivers continued shortcomings.

    BTW, I fired Lovie. quite LOUDLY, at least THREE times when he appeared on screen at the bar yesterday. There were NO dissenting opinions voiced. Neither did it do any good.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    DON'T WE ALL KNOW THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN? WHY IS JAY CUTLER THE ONLY PERSON THAT DOESN'T KNOW OUR RECEIVERS DON'T RUN GREAT ROUTES?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert I can't agree with you about Aikman. Overall I think he's been very fair when he analyzes the Bears. I hate what he says but that's because it's the truth.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Well, we'll just agree to disagree on Troy Boy.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I dont see how throwing off your back foot into double coverage is the GM's fault.

    As Jeff pointed out, dump it off into the flats if there is nothing down field. Or here's a crazy concept, throw the fucking ball into the stands.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    That's because you don't see the big picture. This offensive line, the TEs and RBs would have ANY QB throwing off of their back foot. It's the GM who put this clusterfuck of an offense together and it's his fault THERE IS NO TALENT TO SPEAK OF OUTSIDE OF THE QB!

  • In reply to Shady:

    While I some what agree...Cutler has never been know to be someone with great mechanics and foot work regardless of who has blocked for him.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    And nobody ever said anything because he still made accurate throws regardless of mechanics. Throwing off of your back foot because it's comfortable is a bit different that throwing off of your back foot because your guard and tackle are being blocked right back into your face.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Can't remember which game it was this year but he had some of the niftiest footwork I'd ever seen. He knows the gig, he just ain't playin it.

  • In reply to Shady:

    First, sorry Shady, I'm all out of excuses and explanations for Cutler - and you know me, I HATE angelo and think he is the single biggest reason we've been shitty over the last 3-4 years, but cutler is getting worse not better. Second...

    1. Congrats Martz, you finally realized how we CAN be good after 3 weeks of everyone else telling you exactly how to make this thing work. Quick buddy, quick. Too bad he doesn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What he said.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Shady-

    Look I think Cutler is a tough, talented kid. But there's no excuse for his decision making. Im sorry. You can be a Cutler apologist all you want. Unless Cutler is secretly a robot controlled by Angelo, you cant make excuses for his performance. Well, you can, but you'd be wrong.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Anyone ever consider Jay Cutler is now damaged goods BECAUSE OF JERRY ANGELO?!

    Alright.. I'm done for a while. This is not good for my health. I'm going to walk this off...

  • In reply to Shady:

    rub some dirt on it baby.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Pardon my French, but fuck his being damaged goods. He's clearly still a capable player. If he throws the ball away once, we win the game.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    the most important question of the day: did the Bucs cover? b/c if so, i have a perfect week

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    The officiating in the NFL - is bullshit. Not only did we get jobbed - even Shancoe got bullshitted. The offiating errors in most of the games I have seen either NFC or AFC on CBS and Fox Sports are pitiful. The league rules have been outstripped by technology - ala law / medicine. Does any other coach have as quick an extra point team as McCarthy's boys trotted out last night?

    Lovie has got to get an I-Pad or some such "device" to see the camera shots in real time - not on the "Jumbotron"...Even Tony (Spock Ears) Dunghy kept screaming throw it on the Pre-Game last evening.

    What game are the boys upstairs at Soldier Field watching. See what the boys upstairs are having. I'll smoke or drink some of that shit... Come on - Moore got bullshit call - Delay of game - Vent this you striped shirted asshole...

    Who are these referees? --- terrorized by the Lambeau faithful ---

    "Givin' us the business".

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Too many old guys in striped shirts who cannot deal with the pace of the game.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Playcalling was horrible again guys.
    Barely no playaction
    No rollouts
    Our quick underneath throws were working but then Martz took away from that.
    Red Zone we have to run the FUCKING BALL!
    My conclusion! MARTZ AND LOVIE GO FUCK YOURSELFS!

  • In reply to kenbill:

    On one drive, running the ball got us to the redzone and then what we do? throw the ball for a pick six.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    I think Jay Cutler has a problem, and it's a mental issue rooted in physicality.

    In college once, I tried to play our dorm's title flag football game with the flu. I had a horrible, horrible time. I lost strength, speed, judgment, I just wanted to be in bed and I was running down fast guys and losing and my heart was not there.

    Cutler is a different person after the concussions. Nobody can tell me otherwise. Load the DVR of the Packer game and this one. Yesterday, Cutler was not even checking down. Not even TRYING to check down at times. Hall wasn't sticking with Knox as much as he was reading Cutler's eyes, almost all his picks when you watch them, Hall just watches Cutler. Our boy roy will certainly find this in his breakdown of the tape. Cutler just locks down on Knox.

    Knox, for his part, is too small and weak to be a #1. This was HAMMERED home last night watching Percy Harvin play. Harvin is a completely different player in the slot. Since Moss is drawing the safety over the top, Harvin is running wild. Shiancote has a wide open middle. Everybody respects Moss speed and his ability to jump ball.

    Nobody respects Hester's hands or his jump ball. Everybody knows that if the ball is up for grabs, he quits. Often he doesn't jump at all. Safeties rather blitz than worry about Hester. Knox is easily, almost trivially, knocked off his route by a chuck.

    Shabba is a possession guy best suited for #2. His speed seems to have massively tapered off from last year, he's just slowed down. Perhaps because he's uncomfortable what he's doing.

    All in all, that leaves Bennett who is a pretty damn good slot receiver. Willing to go across the middle and can give some YAC. That's most of what's open.

    Again, Roy will break this down - but Cutler is not checking down. His diabetes or the combination of his physical being from head shots has changed the guy's decision making. He still has the arm, but his timing and judgment are completely rocked.

    He's brave, but stupid. Not stupid as much as purely brazen. He actually said after the game he'd challenge Hall again because he doesn't think much of Hall. Hall just picked 4, something that you only see in high school, and Cutler is jawing him via the press after the game. Brazen. Stupid. Ego driven, what have you.

    Trading Orton is looking like the wrong call each and every week. I was flatly disheartened by Haynesworth treating Chris Williams like a rag doll and leapfrogging Kreutz pathetic cut block. I tried to close my eyes and imagine what Hillgenberg and Bortz might do to Haynesworth. It was no use, when I opened my eyes Kreutz and his over the hill face was still there with a grumpy look.

    Kreutz comment to the Mully was "that's why they pay him (Haynesworth) $20M a year."

    Tell us again, Olin, why we pay you?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1
    Collinsworth was all over Cutler's eyes dropping when he came back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm with Jeff 100% on this one. I'll put my hand up and say I was a Jay-apologist. I knelt at the altar of Cutler and smoked his weiner. But no more.

    Nobody was calling Jerry Angelo an asshole when he traded for Cutty. We were ecstatic, remember? Signing Peppers was a tickle in comparison to the mental erection of the Cutler signing. In fact it was one of the happiest days of my life and quite literally I woke up smiling for a couple of months. Sadly, it probably kept Angelo in a job for doing something we thought was oh so right. We had to give up good old Kyle who didn't lose us any games, but who couldn't throw a ten yard out or one of those Foutsian bombs. Not to mention two firsts and a third. You can have Knox back - he does not make the Chicago Bears a better team. Angelo's back was up against the wall after consistent failure and he went all-in on a cocky gunslinger. And then there was life with Jay ...

    We forgave him. Didn't matter what, we found an excuse. Bad play-calling. Bad receivers. Bad protection. Night-time diabetes syndrome. Cockiness is found in greatness all too often, almost a required characteristic - believing that you're the best is a necessary evil. Thing is, he isn't. What I thought was cockiness really is just arrogance. Saying that he'd go after DeAngelo Hall again just nailed it for me. Why would you do that Jay? Try and give him five picks instead of four? Sad thing is, he could have overcome a lack of smarts. Terry Bradshaw is as dumb as a box of rocks. So was Dan Marino. So is Brett Favre. I always thought that if Jay could throw four or five balls into the stands every game he could be a HOFer. But to Cutler, every play is like a microcosm of the super bowl, he absolutely has to make a highlight reel on every play or what's the point. It's not gay to throw it away. But Jay thinks it is because Jay knows best.

    My one feeling after the inevitable Redskins loss was that it was all on Cutler. That, my son, is not a game that can be explained away. The mystery of the worst third down conversion rate in the league was finally solved. It goes without saying that the general malaise of the team and its roster is on Jerry. We all know that - but this thread is about Jay. We can say it was on the receivers. Finally there is a consensus forming on the blog that our receivers do indeed suck, and that we *should* have signed a big-bodied NFL receiver who knew the fucking time of day. Somebody ... anybody ... who knew what a route was and could run one that looked like the route in the QB's head. We could blame the line. How can a QB throw accurately when they're going to get hit by a freight train in 0.7 seconds? We could blame Martz and his seven step drops ....

    .. but should we? Is it Martz' fault that Cutler was hanging onto the ball for six seconds against the Giants? Is it the line's fault when they do create a pocket and Jay stands in there ... for six fucking seconds ... and launches another rocket into triple coverage? Is it the receivers fault when they're covered and he ignores the running back in the flats who's wide open? Who's fault is it then? When things are as they should be, when everyone else is finally doing their jobs ... he still finds a way to throw a spanner in the works. During the Packers game he was playing the same game with Charles Woodson (I think) ... threw a couple of balls into his hands ... one gets called back for P.I. and you're thanking baby Jebus. "Don't do that again Jay, keep your head son!" Yet the very next chance he gets he goes and does the exact same thing, same guy. He could have been, should have been, would have been great. But he won't listen. And know we know why Denver let him go.

    I felt a little tinge of sadness when Cutler came to us. He was going to overshadow one of my childhood heroes, Jim McMahon, proof incarnate that a brain is a QB's biggest weapon, not his arm. But he won't, he's not even close. You remain the main man Jimmy Mac.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well said Jeff. Sunday's game reeked of Rex Grossman. At least we knew what we had in Rex whereas Jay is supposed to be a great QB. Can't wait for him to play somewhere else and then become fantastic.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    We suck on O. Our WR's aren't good, Forte is avg, our 500 TE's are avg, the OL is atrocious and our QB is clueless. I've been a Cutler apologist for 22 games but the 23rd game was too much. He's fucking killing us. His football IQ is on par with Rex. He's got bigger hands so he doesn't fumble as much. Other than that, what's the difference?

    All the stuff the Cutler defenders say is true. However, Cutler compounds the problems not making things better.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    I blame Kristin Cavalerri.

    Succubus.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    The delay of game was 100% legitimate. Unfortunate, but inarguable.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    And fkn ridiculous that it's allowed to happen. The disadvantaged team should not be disadvantaged. The wrong team gets punished. It's a no-brainer, they should be able to decline the penalty.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    While I'm at it - one ref I think it was last night dropped his snot rag at his feet for a penalty call - bullshit delay of game -

    one name -

    Tom Donaghy.

    Enuff said.

  • In reply to kenbill:

    Except it WAS a delay of game.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Enuff said II.

    Those striped shirted bastards are whimsical at best!!!

    There - now I feel better. Thank you.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    The myth of throwing to a spot:

    Every quarterback in the NFL throws to a spot many times a game. Lets say the reciver is supposed to run a sideline route, but slips off the line of scrimmage, its the QB's responsibility to recognize that and adjust accordingly.

    ENOUGH EXCUSES GUYS. ENOUGH.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Never enuff said III - That twit Chris Collinsworth chuckles and says - "Well, you never know" refering to a call.

    The Authority...Fuck it - review everything then, but don't wreck and destroy touchdowns, RECEPTIONS, PICS and on, and on.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I had nightmares all night last night. In one of them Lovie was a crossing guard at the local elementary school. Only problem was even when he could see a speeding semi barreling down on a group of kids in the crosswalk he just stood there, stoic and motionless. In another Jay Cutler was a Surgeon in residency charged with saving lives after the accident. Try as he might he was just overwhelmed, made mistakes and lost all of his patients.
    Afterwards he gave a half hearted explaation to the families on why he failed and then tursly said he would do it all again the same way if he had to.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I don't get it, first you say he's poor and pitiful and now he's capable? Which one is it? I think we all need to say once and for all what we think Jay Cutler is now and in the future.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I would say there is not a great deal of talent AT QB. Sure hope I'm wrong though.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I don't know that I've ever seen a second half like the one I saw yesterday. There was a ripple in the force. The bad challenge, followed by the non-challenge, followed by Moore's negated pick six, then rounded off by 4 INTs and a fumble, boggles the mind.

    No one should defend Cutler's play yesterday. He sucked. I've defended the guy's aloof and I-don't-give-a-shit-attitude toward the media and fans as a defense-mechanism built by a guy who's not all that comfortable in his own skin or the spotlight. I just figured he wasn't sure that he wanted it all. But yesterday's performance makes me wonder if he does give a shit. I don't think he cares either way. The defense is great because Urlacher's a winner. Briggs is a winner. Cutler, I'm not so sure.

    The only plus we can take away from the last two defeats is that the Bears offense beat themselves. If they can stop doing that, the whole team will be winners.

  • In reply to WeShallReturn:

    "I don't know that I've ever seen a second half like the one I saw yesterday"

    You just haven't been watching the Bears as long as some of us older folks.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That was funny. But the sad part is you don't have to look back more than a few games let alone a few years.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Mayor, as long as that offensive line gives up sacks like Santa gives out Christmas gifts, Angelo is ALWAYS at least PART of the problem.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    hahahaha. Shady walk it off man...rub some dirt on it....its good to have a sounding board to vent...

  • In reply to Shady:

    I agree 100% with Jeff.

    Im so sick of seeing people make excuses for Cutler, its the receivers, its Martz, its Angelo, its the line. ENOUGH. If Jay Cutler's last name was Grossman or Orton, we would be lighting him up. I get it, its not the ideal situation, but the QB CAN control his piss poor mechanics and decision making.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    +10,000

    I cannot imagine what people would be saying were Grossman in there doing what Cutler is.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dont forget the diabetes excuse.

  • In reply to zmac:

    At nightime .... ;o)

  • In reply to Shady:

    Just curious - how much better would Manning, Brady or Brees fared in this offense yesterday?

    HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE BEEN SAYING ANY QB WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED.

    IS IT A COINCIDENCE JAY LOOKED LIKE REX YESTERDAY?

    I don't know how many times I need to preface this but I'll say it again - Jay Cutler was part of the problem yesterday - BUT IT'S BIGGER THAN THE QB!

  • In reply to Shady:

    For all the other bullshit mistakes, yesterday was not bigger than the QB.

  • In reply to Shady:

    The fact former Bears (Backup) QB Kyle Orton is putting up hall of fame numbers in Denver, while former pro-bowl Broncos QB Jay Cutler looks like a backup is indictment enough for me to blame Jerry Angelo for creating this mess on offense. Look at Cedric Benson behind a real o-line! Look at Brandon Lloyd for Gods sake! Kind of makes you wonder what we could have now if Angelo hadn't neglected the offense line FOR FIVE YEARS in a fucking row!

  • In reply to Shady:

    +1

  • In reply to Shady:

    Let's postpone the "Kyle Orton Day Parade", please.

    Denver's 2-5 this year and 4-13 since the started 6-0 last season.

    Nothing against Kyle but I don't think he fare any better with the Bears' receivers and offensive line. He probably fares worse because he's less mobile.

    No argument on the blood on Agnelo's hands.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Actually Orton did fare better with close to the same oline and receivers going 9-7 the year before Cutler went 7-9, so that holds no water.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I totally disagree that the line at that time was THIS terrible.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Look guys, when ever we are told one thing and sold a bill of goods and then it turns out to be exactly what we DIDN'T want(Unstable offense) then you have to go to the source.

    The source in the oranization - JA/Coaching
    and
    The source of our troubles on the field, take your pick.

    Bottom line, JA has not mustered a talented enough line to block, Cutler is skitzo, and our receivers are bottom of the barrel NFL talent. Add this all together and w-a-l-a, you have what we've got. A recipe for disaster.

    Question of the day: Do you really think McDaniels would trade a quote, "Pro Bowl" player for Matt Cassel? Jays pro bowl year was before he was put on meds for diabeties. I'm calling this just how I call my politics. Jay ain't walking the walk since he came to the Bears.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I just had a very ugly thought about Jay. Hmmm. Do you think it's possible that the Diabete's was used as an excuse for his bad play in Denver when he was diagnosed? Hmmmm.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Cutler is an overgrown, diabetic Rex Grossman. He takes chances, which isn't always bad but Cutler and Grossman take chances regardless of situation. His offensive line has issues, and his receivers have trouble getting seperation; and yet we are surprised at having the same issues Grossman had.

    I think we can succeed with Cutler but there will always be games like this where he absolutley crumbles and costs you a game. The only good thing about being stuck with Cutler is that they are stuck with him. They can't get all wishy washy now and have to ride through all these tough spots, the kid has all the ability in the world if he can pull his head out of his ass.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Agreed. Cutter had a brainless game. I'll say it was his first this year, which is an improvement over last year. Yesterday he threw his first red-zone pick; compare that to last year. He's still trending more up than down, people. Yes there will be some setbacks he's not a robot.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    My point was not that Kyle Orton is a HOF player, in fact I never thought he was great at all - but that Denver has provided an environment for the QB to thrive. Chicago on the other hand thrives on defense and considers offense second or third behind special teams. They might have the right QB, if they haven't screwed him up already, but my point was that Kyle and Jay are prime examples of what surroundings can do for a QB - regardless of talent.

  • In reply to Shady:

    But the Broncos can't run the ball, they *have* to pass ... wait ....

  • In reply to Shady:

    Kyle and Brandon Lloyd looked very human and Clark Kent-like against the Raiders. His 7,000 yard passing season took a shaking.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Brees looked pretty similar yesterday in his OWN offense.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Cutler's in a scheme (and remember, "Our scheme is good") desgined to fail because it does not have the required parts.

    They put front ends on golf carts that make 'em look like Rolls-Royces and Mercedes but in the end, they're still golf carts.

    Cutler's as mobile as any QB in the league. Does the staff try to take ANY advantage of of this strength?

    I repeat my math from yesterday,
    correct me if I'm wrong:

    Number of rollouts - ZERO.

    Number of bootlegs - ZERO.

    I'm not saying the guy blameless or is a brain surgeon (though he may NEED one soon). The sideline pick-six was all too familiar 'Bad Jay". He threw one down the middle to Olson who went up and MADE A PLAY on the ball. Maybe he's an optimist and thought Olson's play that would inspire some other receivers.

    Hell, The Seahawks bootlegged, successfully, late in their game with the "speedy" MATT HASSELBECK yesterday for crissakes.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Jay Cutler is not the problem.

    The problem: there were defensive backs on the field.

    We must put a stop to this!

  • Fun facts:

    The bears are 0-10 on the one yard line with 2 turnovers.

    Lovie is 3-15 in challenges in the last 2 seasons

    The bears are 5-50 in 3rd down coversions in the last 4 games.

    I've heard from multipile people that Cutler spends a ton of time in the film room and studying tape, etc. I dont see it. I've come to the conclusion that all that time spent in the film room he was watching "The Hills" Dvd's....

    There's no other explanation. Its like he's literally throwing the game.

  • speak for yourself, Jackass

  • I was with you 110% up until the last sentence!

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