Don't Forget the 3 in 3-1

I know how Bears fans work and I've never liked it.  An unarguably poor performance in the Meadowlands and suddenly half the roster needs to be traded and coaches need to be fired.  3-1 after four games isn't not enough for Bears fans anymore.  The 3 never happened.  All they remember today is the 1.

The Bears aren't a great team, we know that.  But guess what?  There isn't a single great team in the NFC this year.  The Rams might win the NFC West.  The Saints have almost been beaten in every one of their games.  The Packers defense stayed true to its roots and was grated like cheese by Shaun Hill.  The Cowboys, Giants, Eagles and Redskins...who the hell knows?  But do any of these teams look like they're winning a road playoff game?

Listen, I know how you felt the last three weeks.  Things were rosy.  The sun was shining.  Beautiful women were approaching you on the street, complimenting your body and giving you keys to their hotel rooms.  But that's not reality in the NFL.  In 2006, the greatest single season since 1985, the Bears were massacred at home by Joey Harrington and the Miami Dolphins (I know, I was there).  The Bears limped to the finish line behind the interception monster known as Rex.  And they delivered two of the most memorable performances of my lifetime en route to the Super Bowl.

Be practical.  Be pragmatic.  Next week they'll be favored in Carolina, no matter who they start at quarterback.  They then come home, where they'll be favored against the Seahawks and Redskins.  Bye week.  Then to Toronto to face the Buffalo Bills, easily the worst team in the sport.  If this Bears team is going to make any kind of run into the postseason, they should be able to experiment with some blocking schemes and still pull out three of these four games and finish the first half at 6-2.

So let's not make any snap judgments off one performance.  Let's not be like the four-letter network we all despise.  However bad you're feeling,and you shouldn't feel good, the Bears would win the division if the season ended today.  A month ago, you would have signed up for 3-1.  And five weeks from now you're going to love 6-2. 

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  • FIRST (and only) loss!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I see how you did that crown

  • In reply to Crowned:

    The Pack is down another starter. This was the kid the Bears were gonna draft until the Pack snook up on us and snagged him.

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/10/season-ending-injury-for-another-packers-starter.html

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    That one could be "addition by subtraction".

    He commited the big P.I. on Bennett a week ago and I saw him get torched for a TD yesterday.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    I hate to piss on everyone's parade, but the Chicago Bears were 3-1 in 2009 as well...
    ...we all know how that ended.

    The Chicago Bears started this season arguably better than even 2006. In '06 they beat the LAME NFC North rivals in the first three weeks and capped it off with a convincing trouncing of the defending NFC Champion Seahawks. This year they did just enough to beat Detroit before soundly crushing two prospective Super Bowl teams...then took an enormous shit in the Meadowlands.

    What we say right now is pointless. It is only one loss. What will make or break this team is how they respond. If they don't go down to Raleigh and TROUNCE the Panthers by at least 21 points they should be absolutely embarrassed with themselves.

    I dare say, the Carolina Panthers game might be the most important game of the season.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Uh-oh.

    "Those who do not learn from history...?"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Maybe the Giants were really just clones of the 85 Bears last night? It's possible with all the improvements in modern day medicine.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    They did look like the 86 Giants, on defense at least.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I say the Bears need to find a team that's gonna be pretty much out of it in a couple of weeks and make a deal to speed up their rebuilding process and heal our line woes.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Then the Bears better go to Charlotte rather than Raleigh :)

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Haha. Charlette...Raliegh...wherever.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    It's only one loss, except for that whole prospect of "Worst O-Line Ever". That was not a playoff team.

    Does anyone else think Manumaleuna was a total waste? If he's one dimensional already, fucking up blocks is completely unacceptable. At least put Dez or Olsen back out there and make the D account for him. Especially since this team desperately needs short yardage bailouts.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    If the Giants beat us like a 3 legged dog and aren't a playoff team then what does that make the Bears?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I was talking about the Bears there.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    This is awesome and so true http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=5647783

    "Lovie is a low-key guy," Ditka said. "I couldn't believe ... I would have went [psycho] yesterday. I would have been ballistic. I watched him and he had complete control and composure. I guess that's good, but you have to call somebody out. The line coach or somebody had to call these guys over."

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    Ditka had a heart attack during the 88 season. His doctors told him to stay away, but he was on the sidelines the next week. Crazy fucker.

  • In reply to brandonpurcell:

    I feel we used to win in spite of Ditka, and not because of him. McMahon called all the good plays anyway, not Ditka. Ditka just took the credit because McMahon was always right. His autobiography was very insightful that way. They all respected Ditka as a player, but as a coach they just kinda shook their heads and put up with him. They loved Buddy, but not Mike.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Worse than the Titans and the Jaguars based purely on results.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    I'm just baffled at the exclusion of 6'7 Davis, constantly baffled we're not consistently throwing him Jump balls. Can't figure out why you wouldn't use a guy like that. If we're going to pass and nothing but, then use both Olsen and Davis and just put the ball where only they can catch it. What's wrong with that picture? For all the love the smurfs get on here, they haven't done jack shit for our game-plans this year or last. Fast guys that don't know their playbooks have only one purpose and that's go long.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    +1 Great Points GHOST!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I will be in charlotte with jay or without and SCREAMING MY FUCKING HEAD OFF BEAR DOWN GENTS ITS 1 DAMN LOSS and dont you think PEPPERS will be jacked for this one??

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Ghost! you're alive!!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Well, technically no.

  • In reply to Shady:

    :o)

  • In reply to Shady:

    Sack breakdown from Our Boy Roy :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtHSaT5AjU

  • In reply to Shady:

    Reckons he was concussed *twice*.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Sack #3 - Cutler gets concussed (thanks to Girly Thor) by Osi U. Takes 18 seconds to get up and starts walking towards the wrong sideline. The second quarter has barely started. (6:17 in Roy's video in slowmo)

    Sack # 4 - Manu gives it up and Forte blocks no one. Hester and Olsen actually collide with each other. Our receivers suck.

    Sack #5 - I could have hit Earl Bennett on that cross pattern. Cutler was definitely concussed by #3.

    Sack #7 or 8 ? - Kreutz taken to school and just whiffed

    Sack #9 - CB blitz and *second* concussion. Stay down for a while.

    Two concussions people. That could be, no., *is* ...very serious.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    But "Jay is OK". We have Lovie's word on that.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    In retrospect, there were no sacks in the second half were there? Slide protections were used, quicker releases, the QB under center wasn't concussed and holding onto the ball too long, the personnel was different. If we can replicate that with a hopefully okay Cutler, then we can at least make a game of it against Carolina. If we blitz Clausen aggressively then he'll soil himself. Smith will most likely be out. Blitz the pass and run and the Panthers offense dies.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    yes there were. 1 to Hanie for sure, but maybe more.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hanie got sacked and Todd Collins got crushed. The 2nd half was more of the same.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I think they'll play better against Carolina, but obviously things need to get better. I think Aroma should play more than Hester, unless that means sitting Clark, who is our best blocker. Think we could have used him Sunday night?

  • In reply to Shady:

    A Letter From Jay Cutler

    Dear O-line,

    Please remove head from ass.

    Thanks,
    Concussed QB

  • In reply to Shady:

    We were 3 - 1 last year.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    This year we were given hope just because we beat the Cowboys and Packers.I had this team pinned at 3-13 at the start of the season with only victories Detroit*2 and the Eagles.I'll gladly eat crow but with this OL you cannot expect much.

    Anyone remember Jim Everett's phantom sack?Youtube it.

    I hope Cutler's psyche isnt demolished.Jim was never the same.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    The Cowboys and Packers will be two of the best teams coming out of the NFC at the end. Don't take those Ws lightly.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    The D and the special teams are going to have to carry this team. Can the D play as good and make the stops necessary to get Hester on the field for some "offense"? This so resembles the makings of 06'. The Bear O-line is the Rex of 06.

  • In reply to flobflo2114:

    So you just ignore the offense's performance the first three weeks? You guys are starting to frustrate me.

  • In reply to flobflo2114:

    Rational thinking? Now I know you dont live in Chicago jeff.

    Nice piece. good stuff.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Seems like Martz was wanting to use the down the field throws more than the quick slants which would have worked and at least given the defense some more downtime. Wonder if Martz was thinking since the Giants had a couple of their 1st string D-linemen out that we wouldn't have a problem with their pass rush, and planned it that way. Some badly missed blocks as well, 2 on Olsen especially.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Probably, but after Cutler was bacik handed like a red pubed step-child for the tenth time, you think he'd figure out it's not working...Like da cowboys game. Martz seemed stubborn last game, like a true Lovie assistant.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Carolina almost beat the Super Bowl champs, and we have to play them in their house. As long as we kidnap Jamar Williams and throw him onto the kit treuck I don't care. Nick Roach left the game on Sunday with a stinger too. Now we only have ST smurf as a backup LB and a bunch of nobodies. When, oh when, are we going to attempt to draft a 'replacement' for Urlacher? Maybe draft another really big safety and sooner rather than later ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And in no way is the Panther's game even in the top six games this season. Can't bite on *that* sandwich. Our division will be close as close can get, maybe even four ways. So far so good in that respect. The Green Bay game will be the most important - if we're still in the hunt. That will be Ali-Frazier III.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Lach's replacement could be hiding on the roster Rish. I think Brian Iwuh could turn into a special LB. Jamar has 2 tackles and can't even start on a mediocre LB core. I saw flashes from Jamar just like you did homie, but maybe the 20 tackle game was an exception to the rule.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    did you say "Soundly crushing"? what game were you watching monday night? who you kidding, we were fortunate that GB had all those penalties as we were "SOUNDLY BEATEN" except for teh scoreboard! Plain and simple so dont come on here and say something so obviously moronic! and if you think 6-2 is gonna happen, then monkeys will fly out of your butt! this is at best a mediocre team that has had the breaks early. The 3-1 record is so misleading. Sorry but we are extremely fortunate to be 3-1 at this point. Football is god in my house but I still cant get that Lions game out of my head. That was a touchdown if ever there was one and I hate the lions.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Am I the only one who thinks, maybe, just maybe, Cutler REFUSED to be murdered in the second half? I.E.= REFUSED to return to the sack-fest? Just wondering.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Cutler definitely lost his composure way before halftime and whether that was because of a concussion or not, nobody will ever know. One trick pony shows get old fast so I hope our O-line are fast learners.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    In a way, I put last night's loss at the feet of Angelo. Its his job to get the players and he's been shell-shocked about picking O-linemen since Columbo. Do we wish we had the Bahzween, Okwo, Wolfe, Gilbert picks back? Those are the rounds where you get your guards and RTs.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Bet he wishes Columbo was wearing a Bear uniform.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Columbo still has troble staying on the field.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81b11b2c/article/barring-setback-bears-cutler-expected-to-start-vs-panthers?module=HP_headlines

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    nice link '85. Did you watch the vid breakdown by Faulk - who did a really nice job? Not sure if Jay was already seeing little birdies by then, but dude has to throw the ball much faster.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Someone pointed out that he walked to the wrong sideline, didn't throw to a wideopen Bennett , and didn't throw the ball out bounds when he was running out of bounds... SO... I can't believe he is alive or ok.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Anyone see him running out of bounds and just as he arrived at the line he threw the ball out of bounds ? Eh ... Jay ... you okay man ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    He did that several times in the 2nd quarter. That bell was ringing.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I guess it could have been worse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DMqLnDpzXM

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Great stuff. But where were the slide protections in the first half? Anyone else think Cutler is just gun-shy? He's been hauled over the coals for his rash throws so much that now he's over-thinking and reticent to just gun it?

  • In reply to jdawg:

    This is what happens when you basically neglect the offensive line in the NFL draft for 5 years in a row.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    This is what happens when you basically neglect the offensive line in the NFL draft for 5 years in a row.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    This is what happens when you basically neglect the offensive line in the NFL draft for 5 years in a row.

  • In reply to Shady:

    How do you really feel, Shady?

    ChicagoNow really could handle some minor upgrades to their comment code.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Shouldn't that be "Tell us how you really feel, Shady, Shady, Shady?"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Had he posted it five times in a row it would have been even more apropos.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Jeff, you sound like Lovie.

    Kidding, of course, but in all fairness, sometimes a team is not as good as its record and this team, right now, is not a team that sustains a 3-1 tempo over the next three quarters of the season.

    That's not to say that there's no hope, or that the season's over, or that we need to blow it up and start again. It's just a recognition that there are serious, serious, flaws, and if they're not fixed, we can't continue to count on good luck.

    Some of the flaws are obvious. Sure, the offensive line can't block. We know that. We can't run anywhere on anyone. And Jay Cutler every few games is going to come out like it's the first time he's ever played football in his life. Fine.

    But this defense everyone's so high on is really not that good. They don't tackle consistently. They can't cover. And they can't get to the quarterback. Turnovers are a nice deodorant. But when this defense needs just one stop to put a game away, I have very little confidence in them.

    Now, we've got a good head start right now for a shot at the playoffs. But at the very least two things need to change:

    - we need to be able to run the ball, ideally for more than 3.5 or 4 yards per attempt. We can't keep defenses honest with no running game.
    - we need to be able to sack the quarterback. We're being out-sacked 18-4 so far this year. And we're the ones who have Julius Peppers. Getting consistent pressure on the other team's passer will help mitigate the fact that we can't defend the pass.

    If those two things happen, the passing game bounces back and continues to build on the success of the first three weeks, and we continue to get a little bit of special teams and turnover magic here and there, I think we've got a good shot at getting just enough wins out of a tough second half schedule.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That's actually deserving of a triple post but it's so fkn true.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Yup, yup, yup. Everything begins and ends with that incompetent prick. See the twelve million previous posts on that cock-juggler. I hate you Jerry. George W Bush hate.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    Also for concern is that our WR's could not get open at all last night. That can be in part to as of why he(CUTLER) was sitting in the pocket to long.

    WR couldnt get open and Cutler sat in pocket longer.
    Oline isnt entirely in fault.
    Martz play calling sucked.
    Run game couldnt do shit to help Cutler.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    And, once again, the bears are averaging less than 3 yards per carry as a team.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Can I add to that Fresno? 4. Cutler couldn't see his WRs because they were lost in the blades of FieldTurf.

    Sorry Dave.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    I don't think there's any question Jay suffered a concussion last night. From the reports I've heard today, Jay actually wanted to come back into the game but the trainers kept him in the locker room to watch the game on TV.

  • In reply to BAM46Blitz:

    No way in hell did he ask to leave. Reminds me of SB XX, McMahon wondered if Tony Eason asked to leave too.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Also, I disagree with Blogfather in a big way.

    The whole NFL beat was saying the Bears are a 3-0 sham, and they will get exposed. And we were collectively indignant, saying why - oh why - can't we get respect in the national press?

    It's because of shit like last night that proves they were right, that's why. Because that was no fucking 24-21 loss where you go 'if there was just more time on the clock we woulda had that'. No. This was a brutal Grand Theft Auto style beating, with Cutler being the pedestrian dragged out of the car and then run over a few times.

    And that kind of disgusting beatdown changes a team. So, Blogfather can play this down, but what happens in Carolina WILL define this season, and of that I am 1000% sure. We get rolled out there, and pack up the tent because this circus is over. We win, and we have character and resilience.

    I also say start Hanie, if his shoulder is good. Collins is a stiff, Hanie can at least run and make plays.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This Juice Williams guy would surely be more use to use than Father Collins.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So, if Hanie goes down against the Panthers, who is on deck? Collins? Forte? Hester?

    Only one thing come to my mind...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well.. the media has been saying that the last 3 weeks though.. they said Dallas would expose us with Ware and destroy us, then well the Pack will really be the ones with Clay Aiken.. and then we beat them... and so yah if you say every week that a team will lose; yah your going to get one right eventually.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Was it Martz or Turner out there? Cutler sack, followed by what on 2nd and 22 ? Forte draw play when we had failed miserably running the ball thus far. Except for Taylor, who was effective between the tackles when asked.

    Olsen stopped two drives cold. Gets Cutler concussed to end one drive. Instead of 3 and 2 he gets called for false start and we failed to convert 3rd and 7. Cutler was in lala land from then on. Girly Thor = snow-blower. Blowing routes nationwide. Actually collided with Hester on one play leading to another Cutler sacking.

    Cutler sacked nine times, hit another 8 = 17 times including two concussions. Nice.

    Collins numbers looked bad before he left, but he was playing with basically a 2nd string line and wasn't able to do much given the pressure and lack of reps with receivers. Willing to ground it if necessary, gets rid of it quickly. He's not Matt Moore.

    Jennings looks good. Play with this. Him and Hester (you heard) as the corners with Tillman and Manning at safety (but we need a bigger SS- we need a bigger guy in that gap on runs who can lay the wood). Bowman at nickel. Graham as backup. Sign Patrick Turner, Shabba, Knox and Bennett as the receivers. Kellen Davis is your 6'7 TE.

    DEs - Pep & Izzy. DTs Big Toe & 8-Ball

    LBs - The Lads.

    LT - Chris Williams. LG - Edwin Willams. C - Kreutz. RG - Louis. RT - J'Marcus Webb, spells Roadblock.

    or ...

    LT - Chris Williams. LG - Garza. C - Edwin Willams. RG - Louis. RT - J'Marcus Webb. Shaffer/Omelette backup tackles, Marten/re-sign Asiata and put him in at LG. Kreutz - backup center.

    Remember Lousaka Polite? 20 consecutive short yardage conversions for his new team. Unbelievable.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Bears now are 10-of-47 on third-down conversions.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=5649583

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Yes, Blogfather, no matter HOW stinky it was, it only counts as "1" in L column.

    I say sit Cutler this week and make sure the cobwebs are cleared.
    We're talking about our franchise QB, folks and
    I'm not for rushing him back into action.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I agree on sitting him. Concussions often breed concussions.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    How many defensive squads are as good as the Giants left on our schedule?

    Jets?
    Miami?
    Packers?
    Vikings?

    Maybe we can eek out 7 more wins to make the playoffs but I can't see this squad winning in the post season unless major improvement is made.

    I'm just gonna have to take it one game at a time and hope I never live to see another game like last nights again.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The G-men got spanked by the Titans and the Colts. The Colts were beaten by the Jag-offs. The Giants aren't very good, they just looked good against us.

    Miami have a pretty good D, they just got spanked, but that was all ST - NE has awesome ST, that Brandon Tate has a differnt kind of speed. Miami held Randy Moss catchless. Yes. We can't cover Brandon Marshall and probably have no answer for Ricky & Ronnie. The Jets D can beat us up. The Pats can definitely beat us, thankfully they're on the road. the two away games against Minny and GB will be tough and Detroit will not be a pushover either. 10-6 if we're lucky based on Sunday's performance, but GB, Minny and Detroit could all be around that too.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    He's a fudger. Sorry Morgan, and not for your unfortunate first name either, but my love's true blossom doth not extend to thee.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Uhh..Jeff I admire the optimism but Im hearing Juice Williams might start at quarterback.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    You're joking right?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://twitter.com/JuiceWilliamsQB

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Aite, talked to the Bears. Told me to be prepared and stay ready in case of injury, I'm high on the list. That's encouraging

  • In reply to johnkos:

    How fast is he and does he have eyes in the back of his head?

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Blogfather...I must agree that it is only one loss...-1...but the sad part about it is we had the chance to win the game..Why? because :

    1. The giants are not that good.
    2. We "had" a wiser QB-until he got bitch slapped because our line is useless.
    3. our "D" is better than most thought
    4. We started to have a positive mind set " We could beat People"

    Why we lost:
    1. Look up at #2 that says everything
    2. We lost the idea of adjustments...and became as stubborn as our HC
    3. We knew who we thought we were...and this blog has exposed this since last year.
    4. The "Positive" attitude changed and became...well maybe we are not as good as we think went through every Offensive player on our team. I watched the body stance and composer of our O and it said "L"-Loser

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    WRs werent getting open at all. Martz kept calling deep pass plays, and Cutler had to sit in pocket longer. All around people are in fault, i wouldnt blame our oline all the way but they do look bad.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Can I get a witness? Our receivers suck. Our O-line sucks. Half of our TEs suck. I'll give Wright a pass until he's actually played a full game and ditto Danieal Manning, who was our leading tackler by a long way on Sunday.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Tough crowd mang. You're only gonna give Pringles one game before you declare he sucks? At least give the kid a couple games to get his feet wet.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    +1, Lobo.

    The Giants were sitting around just waiting to get beat, but the Bears refused to take advantage.

    I'll chalk the first half up to to the "Monday Night win over the Pack" hangover that I was on the record as fearing. The 2nd half? No excuses. Any hangover should have vanished by halftime but then came "Backup QB Hell".

    Frankly though, I don't know what some of us expected to see from Todd Collins. He was acquired LATE in camp and certainly hasn't had many reps since the 4th pre-season game, not to mention his protection wasn't any better than Cutler's.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Dude is fast, we could use him in tandem with Hanie a la McNabb/Vick. I've always thought a fast Vick/Cunningham type QB is good to have on the roster rather than some useless dickhead with no discernible talent.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    When do we find out how long Jay's out for? This is our season. Pretty sure Lovie has a presser coming any minute.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    You don't seriously believe the Bears are going to give a straight answer to that question anytime soon, do you?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    McClure just reported Lovie said Jay is feeling ok today.
    With the new concussion rules, isn't it up to the NFL's independent docs to evaluate him and decide if he passes their tests? I think the docs can override Lovie but I'm not 100% sure on that. With the league toughening up on brain iunjuries, I could see the league docs keeping him out a week to stay consistent league wide.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Why did Hillenmeyer get IRd ? Did he have more than one concussion this season or last? Cutler probably had three or four on Sunday alone.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    HH had multiple over an extended period of time Irie. It was also a personnel decision since we're pretty deep at LB.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Without Cutler, there's no way in hell we go 6-2 in that stretch, whether we get him back in two weeks or 4 weeks. I can't imagine another season like '04, wondering what could've been.

    Here's to Cutler passing this week's battery of concussion tests.

  • In reply to WeShallReturn:

    So he can fail them next week? He needs a game off.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    Yup.. the game looked ugly. It was an away game after a MNF victory so the odds were against us. The next four weeks look great and Bears West Coast HQ will be flying the flag high and celebrating a victory next Sunday!

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    And who is the west coast HQ?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Idk we may have to battle for the title. haha But we have about 10 dediacted fans here in Sac that get together to watch the games, in this case commiserate together etc.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Thats cool man, I met a guy from Sactown that was a die hard Bear fan. In Fresno I know about maybe 5 diehards and well me I make it about 100 cause im a die die die DIE hard...ya feel me.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    You got a fellow bears fan up the hill in Sonora. Suprisingly we got alot of em up here.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ah good stuff fellas.. if we make it to the big dance we'll have to organize something.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    My God, enough with the woe is me stuff, guys. It's football. And we've won three of our four games. Yes we are as good as our 3-1 record because we beat three teams on the field. Sometimes you suck. It's football. They sucked Sunday night. If they suck again this weekend, you start reconsidering the season's expectations.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    The only long-term concern I have right now is Jay's health. On the plus side, Martz is not going to have a choice but to establish the running game this Sunday. The real question mark on the OL to me is RT now. I thought Shaffer looked pretty bad out there this week and evidently so did Tice because Webb actually got significant snaps. If we want to fix the running game, that starts at Right Tackle.
    And I'd much rather have Hanie at QB in a run-heavy offense than TC.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I'll start with Left Tackle. Frank Omelette is a liability, always has been, not only is he not a great pass blocker, he *cannot* run block. Gone. Audi.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Does anyone think that some of these sacks are comin from the WR's who cant seem to get open? from time to time.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    They've been getting open in the first 3 games. Look at Jay's numbers. The Giants rushed only 4 and sent their LBs into coverage the majority of time. When you have 7 in coverage and no time to throw, Wrs aren't going to be as open. The o-line couldn't stop a 4 man rush the whole game. That was the problem in my opinion.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Olsen's route running and lack of playbook knowledge was badly exposed against the Giants. Ditto Hester.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I know if I was Jay returning to practice on Tuesday I'd be all over those lineman like flies on shit and I damn sure wouldn't be the least bit nice about it.
    At this point maybe Angelo should do like Gene Hackman did in the movie "The Replacements" and hire 4 350lb.+ sumo wrestlers to use as guards and tackles, (god I love that movie!!) just don't let them bulk up on hardboiled eggs before the game! Maybe we'd get some pass protection.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I've certainly been on the 'our receivers suck' boat for a very long time Fresno, jump on.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    They didn't just suck, it was the worst offensive performance I think I've ever seen. Carolina are fairly brutal, pounding them would prove nothing other than that we had a pulse.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    The Dolphins came back to Earth tonight and basically just as embarassingly as the Bears. Maybe more so as they were throttled IN MIAMI.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    It's an old song I sing, but, the NFL is a WEEK To WEEK proposition.

    Cases in point:

    The Bears and Giants were headed in opposite directions going into Sunday. Some of the 'experts" were a little giddy over the Bears, and the New York media had dismissed Tom Coughlan, again.
    We know how THAT story turned out.

    David Garrard has STUNK OUT LOUD this season before Sunday and fantasy owners who spent their #1 pick on Maurice Jones-Drew were wondering just where the heck he was and yet, BANG! The Colts lose to J'Ville.

    The Saints look anything but "Super" so far and their 1-2 punch at running back are both dinged and Drew Brees is wearing a knee brace.

    Dallas got a bye to think about their wonderful 1-2 start.

    Is their an APB out for Aaron Rodgers yet because he was NOWHERE to be found in the 2nd half Sunday. At Home. Against the mighty Lions.

    The Eagles were ready to follow Mike Vick to the promised land but, whoops, the 'Skins turned him into a sandwich and it's the "Kevin Kolb (The "L" is silent. Like in potato.) Show" again.

    As Yul Brynner's "King" would say to Deborah Kerr's "Mrs. Anna":

    "Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera."

    Let's see who's good this week.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Ok who else thinks we should go all Mark Wahlberg and hold walk on try outs in this btch? I know there are some big men out there somewhere who can play.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    The time to do that would have been oh, about 6 months ago.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    In retrospect, if you thought last night was bad, just imagine what the 85 Bears opponents felt like. I can't help but think it must have been very similar to what I experienced last night.

  • In reply to johnkos:

    And Jimbo Covert & "Big Cat" Williams are suiting up at offensive tackle this Sunday!

  • I agree that the bears are 3-1. Defensively, the bears are pretty good....offensively....they have A LOT of work to do. Even in the three games they won, the offense did not look that good. I agree that the bears should be able to get wins in the next upcoming games, but the question is will they make the neccessary adjustments? Have backup plans for when things like passing down field doesnt work? I'm more worried about them not making the adjustments in the offense.

  • Re-post from tail end of last thread:

    Back to the drawing board gents. Unfortunately we have to play with the Deck we've been dealt. Can't see but maybe 1 or 2 possible free agent signings as far as plugging our line and the odds of even that happening are slim to none. Gotta give Tom Coughman credit, that guy is as sharp as they come. He was the difference in the Super Bowl against the Pats and he out coached Belacheat. I should have remembered that prior to kickoff. Jeff's right, it's all about wins and losses, however, relying on the passing game with a horrible O-line and a non-existent run game will only get you so far. The only debate left to have, is how many more games can we eek out victories with this line, what steps can this team take to improve our backup QB situation and are there any possible trade scenario's worth considering for lineman? Hanie plus Garcia at the very least. Tod Collins looked anemic, bad line or not.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    To paraphrase Mark Twain:

    "Rumors of Tom Coughlan's demise as Giants' head coach have been greatly exaggerated".

  • I'm with you Jeff. We must keep last nights bad performance in the context of the bad NFC. Great time to hit the easy part of our schedule. The NFL season is always long with many ups and downs. Shit, look at what the Eagles have already dealt with in 4 weeks. We gotta a long ways to go and winnable games coming up. I say all of this with the idea that Cutler will be back soon.

  • Why does it hurt when I pee?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Hopefully because Kristin Cavalerri gives good ba jay jays.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Because that fine looking woman you shanked turned out to be Susie Rottencrotch.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Susie? thought her name was Mary Jane...? dammit didn't get her name right!!!!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc62jD-G0o

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Lovie's in a bit of a political bind, now isn't he?

    He released Hunter Hillenmeyer because of his concussion, saying for Hunter's own safety he shouldn't play. The real reason is that Hunter was the Player's Union rep on the Bears, and he was smart. Now, he's leveraged out in that role because he's not on the team.

    If Cutler has the same type of concussion, and they rush him back, that very question WILL get asked by Mully, Haugh and the rest. As well it should.

    The whole thing with Collins and The Favor comes back now. What the fuck were we doing drafting favor with that pick, when there was OL on the board? Angelo will be questioned about that as well.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP...nice angle..didn't even think that way but yeah..he's boxed is arse in a corner...Will he be on Dancing With the Stars soon..because I see a tap dance act coming on.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hunter has had multiple, thats why he is not playing

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Maybe he cut him because he was shit ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    :o)

  • Love the O-ring reference. This team has been doomed since Jerry Angelo was given a car park spot. He *is* the Bears O-ring. He's a design fault, we never could achieve anything with that tool building our team. We got to the Super Bowl and even had the good fortune of Peyton manning being a big game choker. But we didn't have a QB. We didn't have anyone to stand in for Tommie or Mike Brown, and we got our asses kicked. Who was the last paper-thin roster to win a Lombardi? I keep ranting about it. All of our problems, whatever they may be at the time .. .we go round and the houses ... but it all come's back to Angelo.

    All we can do is hope that debacle was down to Jay holding onto it for too long for whatever reason, we get Garza, C. Williams and Shaffer back. Somehow they swap J'Marcus for Omelette and we start pounding the rock. But we DO need a FB. Dez Clark is TE not a FB. I want a 250lb ball of cement with a jet pack firing through those holes. And get Asiata back up in here, times they are-a-changin' ....

  • All my MJDs are out on trade proposals and I haven't found out how to revoke them yet. Meh.

  • YES ! YES! YES! Patrick Turner and David Clowney were just released by the Jets. Turner is 6'5 and 220, only a second year guy, but... please Santa pleeeease.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Our O-Line isn't "CLOWNey enough as it is...?

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