Breaking Down the Carolina Panthers, Part One

Having sat through the Carolina Panthers/New Orleans Saints game, and now waking up from the coma it put me in, I can safely say this Panthers team would be better than their 0-4 record if they had a viable starting quarterback.  (I still don't understand how the Panthers and Cardinals believed they could succeed this year with their respective quarterback depth.) Here's my breakdown of the Carolina Panthers offense.  Defense and special teams coming tomorrow.

  • Jimmy Clausen may turn into a terrific pro quarterback but he's not even close currently.  Aside from a brilliant play he made scrambling to his right on the Panthers final drive, Clausen lacked accuracy and pocket presence throughout their loss to the Saints.  He's also got an odd problem with having his passes knocked down.  Three times he seemed to throw the ball directly into the hands of a defensive lineman.
  • The other strange thing about Clausen is twice during the game he had no clue how far the play clock had run, leading to Steve Smith (which I'd never seen before) and John Fox having to call timeouts.
  • DeAngelo Williams should scare the Bears a bit because he's a combination of Ahmad Bradshaw's speed and escapability and Brandon Jacobs' power over the middle.  If the Bears have him in the backfield, they must bring him down.  If they don't, he can rival Peterson and Johnson's big play ability.  The Panthers want to hit home runs on the ground, not through the air.
  • The Panthers show a serious hole on the right side of their offensive line with Jeff Otah injured.  I don't expect Julius Peppers to spend a lot of time in front of Jordan Gross.
  • Bear killer Steve Smith is injured.  Dwayne Jarrett Braylon'd his way out of town.  That leaves the Panthers with three rookie wide receivers: David Gettis, Brandon LaFell and Armanti Edwards.  If the Bears get beat by this quarterback and these receivers, forget the playoffs.
  • I will say that the receiver Clausen has a nice rapport with is David Gettis.  He was very comfortable throwing a mid-range back shoulder ball to him down the right sideline and looked for him on the big final-drive toss.  I don't do fantasy football but Gettis could catch a bunch of balls Sunday.
  • Here's what the Panthers want to do on offense.  Run on first down.  Run on second down.  Run on third down.  If they must throw, throw for a couple yards and move the chains.  On a big third-and-short early, look for Clausen to throw a quick slant to the right side.   
  • At the end of the first half, they got the ball with 1:07 remaining.  They punted it back to New Orleans with 54 seconds left.  This is not a good offensive team.
  • The Panthers made their biggest plays of the game when they spread Jonathan Stewart and tight end Dante Rosario out wide.  I'd expect to see them do this more, especially their inexperience at wide receiver.
  • The Panthers should have won this game, if not for the drive the Charlotte Observer describes as a "ball of confusion".  After the terrific Jimmy Clausen throw, the Panthers had a first down on the cusp of John Kasay's field goal range.  A short run up the middle put them in position to kick it.  They then lost four on a run and Jimmy Clausen took a sack.  On fourth down, Clausen heaved a jump ball to Dwayne Jarrett.  Game over.

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  • No Steve Smith this week?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al...firsts

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    As I recall, it was Jonathon Stewart who did the damage last time the Bears faced the Panthers.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al, I LOVE Jon Stewart: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october-4-2010/hurty-sanchez

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Had him on my fantasy squad 2 years ago when we won it all!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That was genius. Dude got owned.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Maybe I'm missing something. Randy Moss to the Queens for a 3rd rounder?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    He's only signed through this year and he's been a big distraction by constantly talking to media about wanting a new contract now. He's soon to be 34 and is averaging 34 yards a game. He's got 3TDs, but I don't think his return to Minnesota will work out well. Vikings are grasping for straws.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    i'm still convinced that Jay was fucked up from one of the very first 4 sacks. The helmet to back of helmet Osi hit almost made me puke. even horsemouth noticed it during the game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Now every team in our division has a big number one receiver. Too bad we can't trade for one..sigh.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    This maybe the game for us to start another winning streak! BEAR DOWN!

  • Smith's becoming the "Chris Chandler" of wide receivers.

  • A veritable smorgasbord of posts recently.

    Hi Al.

    See how we did that?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...WASUP!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    LoBOOOOOOOOOO! Sup... dawg.

    Man, the only thing I hate more than viking and now Packer fucking trolls.... is.... a bears fucking troll. Jesus, like there isn't enough worthless detritus on this board from time to time.

    Hey DUB or whatever your handle is. Save it clown.

    That was for you lobo...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks from me too, MB. If DBT don't like it, he can start a blog with #16.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Yeah, Dave. Thought that was a fucking bushleague / douchey maneuver.

    You don't like it, then either split, or contribute

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Agree with you boys. You don't make such a condescending first post, period. Way to join the club douche!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If our Offense gets into gear, then boys our team is extremely dangerous.

    Waht happen on sunday night was a FLUKE! Our team is better than that and will be better than that. FUCKIN A IS SUNDAY HERE YET!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    To whine or not to whine that is the bitch ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    from Jay Glazer's twitter:

    "Yes, vikes and pats have been working on trade that sends randy moss to vikes and r very clode but can't be done until vikes and moss work out new contract, whcih they r working on...."

    wow. and Jay doesn't fuck around on the stories...could be trouble

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Shit. That would suck... for us.

    I'm sure you gents saw this shit (right over revis island): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUeWoDHtNTE

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    That had better be a rumor. Not Randy Moss. It should be us getting Randy Moss. Angelo ! En Garde! Moss. Patrick Turner. Anybody.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I'd love for the Bears to take a flyer on Turner. Wont happen though. We are "all set" at receiver and our most talented WR is in the dog house.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This is Last Act of a Desperate Team stuff. Signing Randy Moss to an extension as this stage of his career is a bit nuts but the Vikes are all-in with Favre.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I get moss is a contemptuous little skank... but dude can catch the ball. Period.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ZERO catches Monday night for the first time in who knows how long.

    That CAN'T sit well his Royal Mossness.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Favre is missing 6'4 Rice (see? Big guys gooood...) and as you say Jeff, they're all-in with Favre, so moss is just a rebuy.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Wonder if Moss will enjoy catching dirt-balls from TJ in a month.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Nobody wrote more about AB leaving then I did. But if you believe it was because they believed Mark Anderson was an adequate fill-in, you didn't follow the storyline. Alex is gone because of money.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Not just the money. The coaches were ready to give Anderson the chance to start. They thought he was ready to step up to the next level. Marinelli had a major bonedog for him and the coaches were really hyping him up this sumemr. It didn't work out.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    (Puts my #16 Hand Puppet on)

    (It's the one on the left)
    http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/020603/173022__crank_l.jpg

    "Oh boy guys! I sure am stoked for more Bears football! Don't worry, we're gonna keep on winnin! Right to the SUPER BOWL, huh guys? LOL! Now Hester is running wild again, so nobody will stop us, cause he's the FASTEST IN THE WORLD! LMAO!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, well, I just wanted to say, ya know, don't get too down and let's stick by the #1 football team in the whole wide world!!!!!!! BEAR DOWN!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Hope that helped.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    And the problem is that Bears fans act mopey when they win and feel somehow redeemed when they lose.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    How is that a problem ? This is a public message board !

    Okay ...

    Rah ! Rah ! Yayyyyyyy ! Go Bearrrrssss ! Whooo hooo !

    ISN'T LIFE KEEN !!?

    Leave Greg Olsen alone you downers - he's the key to our offense !

    Kumbayaaaa my Lord Kumbayyaaaa !!!

    Make any difference ? Can we get back to bitching until we achieve perfection now ? Thank you.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    +1

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    HMMMM, Bernard wasn't the answer.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Bernard Berrian.

    A true rarity.

    He was a SMART personnel decision by the Bears.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Nothing relives a loss like a win.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    V..+1

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Si, Si, Viva!

    Ole'!

    +Uno!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Break him in gently guys. Can't fault a guy for wanting the Bears to do good and not understand where the longtime blogger's are coming from. If we can hold it together and every 4 game we crumble, that still spells playoffs.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't mind criticism or passion. I hate whining. And there's been a lot of whining lately.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    You started the thread on Anderson. Did you somehow think we weren't going to mention how collectively pissed we (and you) were this summer when they let AB go, and decided to keep the money to pay Butter instead?

    Even though, you know, AB was a leader and gutty and played with heart? And Tommie has been a lay down since he got paid?

    Were we supposed to not mention that?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    No disrespect to the Blogfather, I don't need to wake up with a horse's head. Dumping Anderson today really, really was a pisser. I saw Michael Haynes (#14 pick overall in the '03 draft) all over again.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP your right do not want to wake up with this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZtyvlzVm7Y

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Remember the forgetable, John Thierry?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jeff, I've been on Bears blogs/message boards where posters act like geniuses and say this guy sucks, that coach sucks, you suck if you disagree with me, etc. They get so invested in their bullshit they would rather the Bears lose, a player stink, a coach make all the wrong moves, than be wrong. Their egos are so fragile they have to be right. Basically biting off their nose to spite their face. THOSE are the posters I don't get.

    One of the many reasons I like this blog so much is because there aren't any of those douchebags posting here. I get you don't like whiners. Who does? If that's as bad as we get, that's not that bad. Just my $.02.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1
    Love him or hate him, Anderson still gets paid. I don't think they're necessarily pissed with Anderson. Looking at the roster, it's difficult to make space anywhere at this point. Clearly someone is coming in and they felt that with Izzy and Melton, somebody had to go at end. They'll probably sign him back if they can.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Wait, Grant's in. He pissed someone off all right. He won't be the last guy cut though, I can't believe they'll continue without a new G/T. Omelette for the push please.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, your hate for Omiyale is getting nutty.
    If you watch that game again and think Omiyale is the weakness on that line, I don't know what to tell you.
    When CW comes back, it may just end up being at RT again.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hear here. I hope you're not considering this one of GP's "whining".

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Panthers kept the game close with the Saints. Fact.
    We just got taken to the wood shed. Fact.
    Our O line sucks. Fact.
    Our D played well against the Giants until they ran out of gas. Fact.
    Our run D is solid. Fact.
    Over 4 games, our D has performed well. Fact.
    We have no running game. Fact.
    We are 3-1. Fact.
    Cutler got the crap knocked out of him. Fact.
    Martz has proven that this offense can be successful. Fact.

    Given all of the above, every week the Bears take the field, it's gonna be anyone's ballgame and occasionally we'll get our asses handed to us and occasionally we'll be the ones delivering the ass whooping. At the beginning of the Season Jeff said we're gonna be in for a wild ride and boy was he right. Buckle up gents, enjoy the ride.

    Bear Down.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hold up on the Run D being solid Trac my son. We got taken apart by the Giants.

    From memory...

    Bradshaw - 23 runs 129 yards, TD
    Jacobs - 6 runs 62 yards, TD

    We have no answer for beefy RBs and we're about to face two of them. We need to play a 4-4 against Carolina or there's no way we'll stop them. We've got to blitz on most downs to disrupt Clausen and/or the RBs. They seem to be one-dimensional so we''l probably win, but it's only the panthers. No boners if we win this one. We're expected to win this one. We need to win this one.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hmmm. LAST week...

    The Giants were minus Mathias Kiwanuka.

    Justin Tuck was missing in action.

    Tom Coughlan had "Lost the team".

    THIS week ...

    Renowned Bear-iller, Steve Smith, is out.

    The Panthers gave Dwayne "Drink onnnn, for U S C" Jarrett
    his walking papers this afternoon.

    Jimmy Clausen looks out of his depth.

    I quote from HILL STREET BLUES, a terrific, ground-breaking TV show.

    Sgt. Philip Freemason Esterhaus (Michael Conrad):
    "Let's be careful out there."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Great show.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What happened to you mang? Missed your apopleptic fits during the Giants game. Conspicuous by your absence as you say ...

  • Many, many things can be made better with a simple thing. A Bears win in Charlotte. Yes, Bear Down, compadres, Bear Down.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I can't believe there is football in Charlotte. Just seems wrong.

  • Good post doc. And very nice use of one of my favorite words, "assuage"

    Good work.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It ranks right up there with "assweepay".

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You can spell sausage with the same word; I like it.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Tasty, Crown... tasty.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i wrote a fucking manifesto for the last 20 minutes and deleted it in anger and frustration. I will sum it up without going into the cursing and insults.

    3-1 Record
    2-0 in the division

    Vikes and GB play on the 24th. We play Vikes 11/14 , Lions 12/5, Vikes 12/20, Lions 12/20 and GB 1/2

    The only thing that matters is making it to the playoffs. we don't have to be the 85 Bears to make the playoffs. We need to adapt and survive the way most teams have to. Saints fucking eeked out a victory, Falcons all but lost to 49ers except for the most heartbreaking ending ever, Green Bay got fucking worked by the Lions and are having issues but managed to barely win. The point is that this stupid media culture has convinced us that if we don't fucking roll teams and dominate all the time then we can't achieve our goals this season. We hold the fucking cards in this bitch. Cutty is coming back and we are winning this fucking division. I don't care if we go to the playoffs with a 8-8 record as long as we beat the teams in our little NFC North world. Beating Detroit and GB in the first 3 games was huge. Vikes and GB on the 24th is extra huge. Keep the chins up and realize that every team needs a little luck sometimes. A little luck plus a ton of toughness and some players deciding to make it happen results in the playoffs. Winning the first 3 games against teams that have had success against other teams this season is a good thing and makes this Bears believe that we can hang with every single team this season. It doesn't mean we will, it just means we can.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I agree the whole league is in disarray. Old man Farve is showing signs of dementia, Mike Vick is broken, the Pack have no running backs, the Giants themselves imploded against the Titans. Tons of injuries around the league as a whole.

    This is the new NFL. No dynasties. Just whomever survives until the end. It's a war of attrition.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Great post GP. Things are different around the league. It's a fucking war out there. I think a lot of this has to do with the gap between the good and bad teams shrinking significantly. The fuckin Rams are rolling. The Texans...who? Carolina played the champs tough. The Lions are no joke. Everyone is more around the middle of the bell curve this year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And some of you guys want an 18 game regular season?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    hahaha SC. 16 is enough for sure. If you add 2 more, 50% of the UFL will be starting by the end of the season.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Not with Angelo picking my team.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    The mysterious disappearance of Devin Aromashodu is a major disappointment. I expect to see his picture on milk cartons any day now.

    MANY fantasy owners have to be steaming over that as well.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Let's face it Johnny, you wrote it all out, Ctrl-A, hit another key and then lost it :o)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And don't forget the panthers almost beating the SB champs. Cleveland won. Buffalo nearly beat the Pats, kind of, and the Pats kicked the crap out of the Dolphins ... who'll beat us ... who beat the two sexy NFC picks already ... so yeah, I guess it is a topsy turvy old league ... Chiefs for the Super Bowl then.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That is how you fire up the blog. Nicely done Mr. Waffle.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    or..:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptAoJedxFzU

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Sorry boys..try this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptAoJedxFzU

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Let juxtapose this statement with the one Jeff made about the Cardinals and Panthers going to the season without out a quarterback.

    I still don't understand how the Panthers and Cardinals believed they could succeed this year with their respective quarterback depth.
    vs.
    I don't understand how the Bears believed they could succeed this year with no O-line to protect their Quarterback.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac: Both come from the Bears Management book know as
    "Were All Set"
    by JA & LDL
    fact or fiction you tell me.

    Or in poor JC's book
    #9
    Murder Mystery
    by the O-Line

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Not to nitpick but, I believe the quote was:

    "I think we're set".

    I rememeber well because it sparked my first appearance in a thread header when the Blogfather (AKA, Mayor of Shark City, Larry Vaughn" elevated my list of other famous (and fictional) "I think we're set." quotes.

    Of course, my SECOND appearance in a header was slightly less spectacular. I believe it was called "Albert in Tucson is a jackass".

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I watched the game again last night. One of my perspectives changed a bit. Contrary to what I thought watching it live, Martz did make in-game adjustments. After Cutler got crushed several times when Martz called 5 and 7 step drops with max protection, Martz spread everybody wide. He was calling quick release type stuff w/o max protection, TEs were releasing short, but something was wrong with Cutler by then. He had either already got his bell rung or was watching the line break down fearing of getting hit again as opposed to locking in on targets.

    I don't know if it was an early hit, diabetes or whatever, but as many of you have said his internal clock was not there. Martz basically called the same game as Dallas; Cutler was just fucked up and couldn't execute and held and held and held onto the ball. And when he tried to scramble away or move out of the pocket, he was basically running in circles, lost. Hopefully, whatever was ailing him is gone.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Crown..I agree about JC...but then again can you imagine getting hit by a 250-300 mass multiple times...oh yeah #9 times and try to get your FU!@%#$!@#I$NG composer. I think I would of been on the sidelines in a fetal position calling my mommy to take me home. DAMN that had to hurt!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Yep watch Roy's video and you'll see Olsen whiff on Osi, who hits Cutler helmet-to-helmet from the backside at full sprint. That's the play Cutler goes to the wrong sideline after.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I would be shocked if Grant plays for the Bears this year.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Never heard of the guy.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Wasn't he the boss on THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Good one AL!!

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Mr. Grant: "You've got spunk".

    Mary: "Well... thank you..

    Mr. Grant: " I HATE spunk!"

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    And I'd be in the stretcher on the way to the hospital next to, Lobo.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    17 times in Cutler's case. Any single one of which could have us walking funny for a week.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I think the Bears were told by their new offensive coaches that they had adequate talent on the o-line.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    blogfather..I think the word adequate says it all.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Adequate talent, as in...

    5 bodies.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    They probably just said that to
    (wait for it, Doc...)
    ASSUAGE any doubts...?

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    So, I'll be the guy who says it:

    I know OLine is obviously our top need, and it has to be tough to throw the ball to anyone when your on your back/head/right arm... but........ but........

    Enter illogical trade topic -

    One of our TE's (preferably GO), one of our underachieving DLinemen (ahem, Harris), and one of our unnecessary smurf receivers...

    You see where I'm going?

    M-O-S-S

    Hey, a guy can hope can't he?

    Sorry, I can't help myself.

    Fine, get me a decent OLinemen. But give me some Aroma.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Don't mean to wake you from a wet dream, Willie, but according to 4-Letter Schefter, it's all just a matter of the Queens working out a new contract with his Royal Mossness.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    So long as the traffic cops in Chicago get a one week head start.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Can we use a HOFer WR who's 6'4?

    YES WE CAN !!!

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Listen, I don't mean to be a dick. I took Sunday night's loss as hard as any of you. I think Mark Anderson stinks (but I think his release will have zero impact on the defense or the remainder of the season.)

    We don't have the o-linemen required for a great running game or proper protection. But this coaching staff can get to the postseason with this group. They need to get to fucking work. And I'd love to see fans show a little more "get out there fucking do it" and less "we stink, we stink".

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I think a lot of the ovvereaction has to do with our fanatic passion for this team. At least, I hope that's what it is. Let's not act like all the cards are falling after 4 weeks and 3-1. Progress not perfection.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    blogfather...I think we can make the post season also..and as you mentioned earlier this is just one game. As for the phrase "get out there fucking do it" I think we all agree they need to "get out there fucking do it" and it's as simple as that. and we will all see what brings us on Sunday.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I have COMPLETELY put this game behind me and I am moving on. As far as I'm concerned, this game never happened. Sometimes you just wake up and it's not your day. It happens the the best of us. The Colts lost to the Jags for christ sake. Us as fans are frustrated, how do you think the team feels? Probably worse than us. When we start losing 2-3 in a row, then I will start to worry. The Packers had a terrible o-line last year and they still made the playoffs. We will just have to wait and see i guess

  • In reply to Joseph:

    That's a good point. The Jags. And the Pack nearly made it to the Super Bowl with a crappy line.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Jeff, you see what we do out here. Some offer detailed analyses and lengthy diatribes. Others offer sardonic humor. Others remind us to get behind the team. Others wait to say "I told you so".

    But we're all fans, Jeff. And you know that.

    Someone a few threads back made a comment about how we get too high when things go well and too low when they do not. That is what passionate fans do.

    I know you're a passionate fan too, Jeff. But you are "required" as The Blogfather to maintain better balance as your public face. Many of us could do better, but we don't *have* to. Is that the difference?

    Just know that I, for one, appreciate how hard that must be for you sometimes.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Soild point, Mayor Blogfather. (See I how cleverly I combined those two?)

    As I recall, the Steelers offensive line has been LESS than stellar for several seasons and THEY seem to keep finding ways to win, no?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Aww, I just noticed the Murray Hamilton / Larry Vaughn avatar is gone. In that case, I shall revert to just "Blogfather".

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Who wants to get to the post season to get blown out? I don't. What's the point of going to the playoffs and getting your QB murdered on national TV?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Da Bears don't stink, but the O-line... is a little ripe. I think the coaching staff is doing very good with what they have. I just think whether it is trading draft picks or players, we need some better players on that line.

    Can we make the playoffs with the team we have right now? Sure we are in the discussion. I can definitely see us being 6-2. Then let's say we can beat the Lions again. We have to win 3 of these games to get to 10-6. Philly, Vikes twice, Miami, NE, Jets and GB. All tough, tough games. We can do it as currently constructed but we will have to play well against these good teams. We have already beaten two good teams. We can do it but some help would be great.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    So then some of our wrath towards the coaching staff and their ability to evaluate and develop talent is justified then right?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    As Pompei pointed out (I know I know) - Cutler was sacked with 6/7/8 man protections, guys just weren't blocking. Tice was not to blame. In the second half there were slide protections, you name it, and Martz did call shorter passes and screens. Guys just did not block.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    No cohesion = QB concussion.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Our o-line is probably 5 or 6 games away from acheiveng any semblance of cohesion. That will put the number of games they have started toghether at around 11-12.

    The more they play together the better they will get.

    They need to be a cohesive unit, we need to be patient fans. I trust Tice and Martz understand what they are dealing with, and their ability to evaluate talent.

    Sunday was a potentially costly (severity of Cutler's injury is unknown) stumbling block.

    You introduce new guys off the street, and we'll have steered the boat backward.

    Getting kicked in the teeth is as good a wake-up call you can get.

    Hats off to Fewell - he took Martz to school.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    +5

  • Doc...on target brother!!!

  • At 12:01 in:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtHSaT5AjU

    Want something constructive to be said? I know something.

    See how Lewis and Kreutz are fucking ass clueless as to what to do, meanwhile the guy rushes right BETWEEN them and sacks Cutler?

    Want to know how to reverse that? I know how:

    RUN BLOCK.

    Give your OL a chance to fire off the line. Establish a credible run blocking scheme. Give them a chance to fire into those DL a few times. Better Forte get hit behind the line than Cutler.

    Maybe we can't blow them off the ball, but UNTIL WE RUN SOME OF THE TIME, guys are going to step through and speed rush the edges like that.

    Why Martz didn't have more screens out there, i don't know. Watching that video, Forte can't pass block for shit, and if he would release and we'd dump to him, we could run. Otherwise, go I formation and give the OL chances to smashmouth a few times instead of pass block every play.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Martz playcalling was extremely shitty on sunday. Jay kept getting killed and martz kept calling the same plays. I was screaming at my tv the whole night. RUN RUN RUN! RUN THE FUCKING BALL!!!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    You and a couple hundred thousand others, no doubt!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks GP: Al on an earlier post mentioned about the train wreck and to tell you the truth I new Our Boy Roy would break it down.

    I've got to tell you I really did not want to watch it, because I knew how bad it was going to be. BUT DAMN..it was worse than the first time.. wow..let's hope Martzy has a better adjustments than watch JC get FUBAR!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Sierra Torpedo Extra IPA! That stuff be good!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Our boy Roy does a great job breaking down every sack on video and calls out who's responsible for each one. Shaffer got beat by speed rushes to the outside. And Roy also points out the adjustments made to shallower drops and more blockers and in the later sacks you can see the difference. And GP to your point Kreutz and Lewis both stand there and let the defender just run right by. Aren't o-linemen supposed to fire out their arms and punch and engage? They just STAND THERE. Makes me glad no one has video of me at work.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Anyone else agree that JC got concussed on the Olsen whiff, sack 3 I think? He got drilled in the back of the head and was down for like 18 seconds and didn't know what the hell was going on for the second quarter. He should have been pulled there and then. The last sack could also have been a compounded concussion.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +1.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I would consider this defensive staff completely inept if Grant is on the 45 over the next month.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I think I've stumbled across the reason for Grant's signing ... he's our new fullback ! A 90 yd TD run, really?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9-cxEAyaYw

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fkn A GPL.

    Push them backwards into the fucking middle of next week. Establish the run. Remember that? Used to be perceived NFL basics. Football 101. Lesson one. I-formation with a large man known as a fullback or a lineman behind the QB. Let's get some of that working before we redefine ballistics with the 12-step-drops, parabolas and trigonometric zen-related passing game. I like his aggressiveness, but don't forget the basics.

  • Love da passion Doc, but I'm looking at it as just one game. Now, if they shart the bed against Carolina this week, then there is reason for such grave concern. I'm with da blaagfader on this one.

  • Really though, Doc. Who has any real depth at QB?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Philly did at one point...but boy does that change quickly. You never really know what you've got until it's gone anyway, ala Bledsoe and Brady, Flutie and Johnson, etc, etc.
    Debartolo did a pretty good job of keeping depth at QB, but we know how that ended.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I don't know. Kevin Kolb (Silent "L" like, in stupid) was/is an unproven commodity.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    +1 and LOL, Irish. Even though Blogfather predicts he won't play.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wouldn't it be nice if the answer to the question
    "Who is buried in Grant's Tomb" was "Opposing QBs"?

  • Testify! That's the stuff, Doc. Right there. And in the cold light of day it was nothing to do with Tice, it was all on the blockers. Every single man gave up a sack, everyone was culpable. They all sucked. Both TEs too, even the man mountain Manu who cost us upgrading other positions. No surprises so far this year, other than we don't appear to have a running game. As advertised.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Actually, no, your whipping boy did not.
    But he had multiple false starts.

  • Can anyone who feels redeemed/satisfied/justified about the Bears when they lose speak now or forever hold their tongues ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Just Mariotti and Rosenbloom I believe.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    And Bernie Lincicome.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Big Al swishes the Lincicome reference for three points.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    For the life of me I cannot understand the obsession around here with a "#1 receiver". If your QB is being beaten senseless to the extent that he cannot see his slot receiver WIDE open 10 yards directly in front of him, what good will it do?

    This team would be infinitely better off spending that effort and money to acquire better offensive linemen. You know, so we might have the occasional running lane or more consistently something that resembles pass protection?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I know that SC. I can you name our number one receiver that Cutler relies on every time?

    Maybe if our receivers were getting open all the time we wouldn't have to worry about our qb getting killed.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Ravens auditioning linemen
    By Mark J. Miller

    The Baltimore Ravens need to add an offensive lineman. So the team cut cornerback Prince Miller(notes) and has tried out eight linemen over the past two days, according to National Football Post.
    On Monday, sources tell the site that the team tried out offensive guard Donald Thomas(notes) and offensive tackle Quinn Ojinnaka(notes). Then yesterday six more got their try: centers Jake Grove(notes), Nick Leckey(notes), and Brett Romberg(notes) as well as tackles Kirk Chambers(notes) and Scott Kooistra(notes), and guard Kynan Forney(notes).
    One of them is expected to be signed and practicing with the team today.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The Bear's don't need to do this at all. We are set at o-line.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Every guy who doesn't sign with the Ravens - we'll take them.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    and olsen stopping his route and watching the interception made me yell which woke up my kid which resulted in my wife yelling at me which resulted in me getting pissed and yelling more at Olsen. A classic domestic disturbance.

    Bears win this week by 10. I predict an injury to one of their running backs. People we have to remember that Manning had 63 yards at halftime and they barely had any rushing yards. The stats are deceiving because of the last 2 drives, granted that those were the drives that put us away. I think the D will regroup. Also, Charles Grant was actually a really good player at one time. I know he got plump and a little older but i think it would be fucking hilarious if he made some plays. I don't see him getting out there so i Wooten and Izzy will have to share the load. Melton is making a name for himself at Halas Hall and has a ton of upside potential.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Here's what I'm wondering today:

    Everyone said we stole Wooten in the draft. Before his injury, he was a projected first rounder, and his injury has healed and it's awesome we got him in the 4th round.

    If he's so awesome, why did we sign Grant? Why have seen pretty much no Wooten to speak of?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    What up with Wooten? Anyone know if he's been dressing. He's fully healthy right?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    New thread.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    i just re-read my comments and they are a little uneven like i was the one that got hit in the head. I am signing off for the day and will pick this up on Saturday. Clausen dies on sunday. Let's pull a Patriot and score on punts, field goals, kickoffs and a scoop and run after forced fumble.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    LM: Why did the Bears decide to sign Charles Grant and release Mark Anderson?

    JA:

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Sounds like it 85. Tommie out. Melton to left end and Grant to a tackle spot at some point.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    +1 SC

  • And the Mayans were soooo smart that THEIR world ended WAAAAY before 2012.

    Sunday is 10/10/10. Isn't THAT supposed to be the end of the world, according to numerolgy geeks?

    Besides, we all know, if there's a lockout in 2011,
    THAT'S when the world ends!

    WAIT ONE COTTON-PICKIN' MINUTE!!

    You watch documentaries with your WIFE?!

    What are you, SENSITIVE AND CARING or something?

    Don't worry Doc, just pullin' your chain.
    I watch stuff like that with MY wife, too.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    binary 101010 is 42 in Decimal, and that's the answer to life, the universe and everything. So Sunday is ...

  • At least Hanie can extend a play and maybe save his life. Collins has the classic mobility of the Statue of liberty.

  • Charles Grant. Sounds like a multiple murderer. Let's hope he is anyway.

  • Or they were just dog tired I guess, our O was too busy getting chewed to chew up the clock.

  • ...and DEATH was not an option.

  • Mankins wants to get paid. The Bears won't pay him what he wants after this last off-season binge. It's not going to happen.

  • that quote was out of context. i heard the whole live interview. it was at a crowded bar downtown. He was talking about players not looking too far into personnel decisions and instead focusing on their own level of play which ultimately decides if they make it on the field or not. He wasn't referring to not understanding the coaches decisions as if they were crazy off the cuff irrational moves.

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