Who Are the Chicago Bears?

Some fans get mired in Power Rankings and pundit prognostications.  Some fans clamor for respect from the national "experts" because it seems the national "experts" are the only ones talking about sports on television these days.  We live in a BCS sports culture.  A sports culture, led by the four-letters, that believes winning is not enough.  Because if winning were enough, if results were all that mattered, what the hell would the roster of talent the four-letters employs have to talk about?   

Here's what the Bears are: 3-0.  A game clear of the Packers and the entire NFC.  They are not a world-beating football team about to rampage through their sixteen-game schedule and dominate the postseason.  They are a team with terrible weaknesses on the offensive line, inconsistent wide receiver play and a never-ending cycle of defensive backs.  The 2006 Chicago Bears, one could argue, played their best football in the first half of the regular season.  This team has yet to play a complete game.  And they've yet to lose.  That's a tremendous sign of things to come.
The Bears now go to the New Meadowlands (as will I) to play a reeling Giants team in what will feel like a home game.  Giants fans shun night games and the place will be full of navy blue jerseys.  They then go to Carolina to play one of the worst teams in the league before home Seahawks, home Redskins and the Bills in Toronto.  At worst, I think the Bears are looking at a 6-2 start and sixteen meaningful regular season games.
That's who the Bears are.  A contender.  For it all?  Maybe.  For the division title?  Absolutely.  And a trip to the postseason means anything is possible.

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  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Down!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    funny

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    *Offense line did look good though overall.
    *JUlius Peppers didnt get a sack but he did cause their Oline to panic by committing holdings and false starts.
    *Urlacher and Briggs ENOUGH SAID!
    *DB's kept almost every pass in front of them, nothing really got behind them and that right there is good in my books.
    *Jay Cutler didnt have the prettiest game but he got the job.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    And Cutler has a pair of HUGE ones to keep taking those 7 step drops behind that suspect line!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I was suprised Martz kept calling the 7 step drops and didn't change to 5 and 3 step drops like they did vs. the cowboys. Thought we would see much more quick release; like what the Pack was doing to us.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I think Jeff nailed it.

    This team is playing compelete football yet. Thus, I think that is a scary thought for other teams because once we click on all cylinders we will be a very, very scary team.

    The expert rankings are cool to brag about to friends and enemies but that's it. I don't really care anymore. As long as we win, who cares?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Looking forward to seeing the Power rankings for shits and giggles, but it's like Parcells said: "You are what your record says you are." We're 3-0 and have played pretty badly. That's pretty good.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I continue to be impressed with both Jay Cutler and Julius Peppers when they talk to the media. These guys are winners and they talk like winners. They don't make excuses for imperfect play and they don't waiver from that ethic of "we've got to get back to work and win next week." That's the attitude that wins playoff games.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    oooh oooh, everybody's talkin bout the new Bear...

  • In reply to mottystone:

    welcome to the blog bro, but u need an avatar

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    He's keepin it real Fresno ... and how do you know New Bear isn't really a witch that drowned in cement? And uh ... I guess is blogging from the other side ...umm ...no.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    The Bears are a team that is DESPERATE to make the playoffs, and is acting like it. Break out your 83 Sox jerseys.

    http://www.rachelleb.com/images/2005_06_03/winning_ugly_is_sweet.jpg

    Harris having a little Rodney Dangerfield moment with Drew Rosenfelds in the open at the Hilton says all we need to know about this team: i don't give a fuck who you are, you man up and play or you can get the fuck out.

    We will line up in the ugliest, dumbest Wildcat formations, we will double reverse, we will run the god damn statue of liberty. We will do it with smoke and mirrors, but we will win. Adapt, overcome.

    This is a rag tag bunch of Bad News Bears after Kelly (i.e. Peppers) has come to the team and play like they just DO NOT give a fuck what anyone thinks anymore.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Lance Briggs & Brian Urlacher are not rag-tag at all.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    The only thing im really concerned about is our running game.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FANTASY: I HAVE CALVIN JOHNSON and BEN ROTHLISBERGER, I will trade these two for a good Running Back.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    which league?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Speaking of fantasy and undefeated teams. These teams still remain perfect through three weeks:

    Bears Bloggers #1 - Cutler's Forte(FQ)
    Bears Bloggers #2 - Chicago Cutlery(Not sure who he is?)
    Bears Bloggers #3 - TRAC

    I'm happy to report that Irish and FRESNO chalked up their 1st wins this week but FRESNO holds the dubious distinction of having the only winless team in Da Bears Bloggers 3 league.

    Bear Down.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oops, Sorry Murph. Team Murphy II is also undefeated in Bears Blogger #3 league.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/7675/calling-packers-a-3-4-defense-is-just-talk

    Werid thing about Jay.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Yep... and I think the #s came out GB only in 3-4 on like 3 snaps out of 48 yesterday.

    Don't read too much into those Jay #s though -- that's based off of 2 games last year. Under Martz he carved up nickel+ defenses the first two games, and he did well again last night.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I don't buy into that shit. Once you've got three down linemen you're a 3-4 defense period. If you swap a LB for a safety/Corner then you're a 3-4 defense with a smaller linebacker basically. You're covering the same people, you attack the same ball. Obviously your passing stats go down when a defense is in pass prevent status. Show our *running* stats against the Nickel/Dime packages to get a fuller picture.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    My understanding is that GB moves to a 4-2 front when they go nickel most of the time.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    thanks bro

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Just having fun Fresno. I'm 1-2 in the 2nd league. It happens.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Leaving 70 points on the bench in Best/McCoy against you week two already cost me the playoffs Trac. Done and dusted. I will continue to fight the brave fight.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    No way Irish, there's plenty of football time left.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Check your email.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    in both league im in

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/09/28/packers.bears.5things/index.html

    read this bullshit! Fuck this guy. Does this guy Know that if we would of scored all our points(this missed touchdown and field goal) we would of blown these guys out. What the fuck man I hate the MEDIA! they always find a fucking bullshit excuse.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    so basically we our Lucky more than anything in our last three games. If i seen this guy i would gladly punch him in the mouth for sounding so stupid. Does anybody watch the games? we were overmatched on some drives, but honestly we should of won this game by 10points or more.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    We could have won by 10 or more but I really can't stress enough the fact that our boys are actually motivated by the poor press. Even Urlacher has mentioned this several times. I'll say it again, keep it coming you media hacks, don't stop now. Remember what happened to the 06 team after they started believing the press clippings? By the time the Cardinals game arrived our boys started playing like crap.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Relax, Fresno, just enjoy the feeling when they are so wrong.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    The Pack averaged almost 7.5 penalties a game last year and after they stunk up soldier field and were shown the door last night, they are averaging 8 per game this season. This should not be a shocker.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    And their special teams ain't so special, either.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That's definitely true, though on Hester's TD that was all him.

    As Steve Young said in the post-game, GB actually had good coverage and stayed in their lanes. But Hester broke through the hole so fast the guys couldn't react quickly enough to make a tackle, and he was gone.

    What Young didn't say though was how well set up that return was -- first Hester moved the ball laterally to stretch the coverage and widen the lanes, then he took a vintage, quick decisive cut upfield hard and fast. Good blocking, but an exceptional read and patience by Hester.

  • Good call Doc

  • "A work in progress" to be sure.

    Lucky to be 3-0?

    OK, but, as someone smarter than me once said,

    "Luck is the residue of hard work".

    What is that offense going to look like when everybody is on the SAME PAGE?

    There will be much punting-for-the-sidelines by opponents for the balance of this season.

    Mike McCarthy, so, you didn't allow the Bears to score a TD to save time for Rodgers to possibly re-tie the game because to you expected one of the BEST kickers in the NFL to miss for a SECOND time in the SAME game?

    From NINETEEN yards?

    How "Lovie-like" of you.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I gotta admit though, it's an awfully tuff call to tell your boys to just let the other team score. Even understanding the reason's why someone would do that, it would leave an awful bad taste with the players if that kinda call backfired.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Losing leaves that taste either way. Counting on Gould to miss a 19 yarder is basically giving up. It's like purposely missing a free throw to try to get the a chance for more points. It is a desperate, low % play for a desperate situation. Glad they didn't.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Yeah Z, I'm with you. Was reading up on the very thing on a link posted below. It looks like they should have let Matty Score. I would have won my game in 2 of my fantasy leagues had they done so.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I know I'm getting ahead of myself, and I'm blacked out drunk on the cool-aid, but 8-0 looks realistic, likely even.

    Giants - Eli Manning looks like he has down syndrome
    Panthers - worst team in the league
    Seahawks - Not buying the fast start
    Redskins - They lost to the Rams dude
    Bills - There the fucking Bills

    Championship

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    that in depth analysis is free of charge.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    And worth every penny! :-)

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Ah, I was wrong, it wasn't just the OTs but their whole O line that was exposed -- http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/103890263.html

    Also, I was close, their longest play was 28 yards. No WR got more than 18 yards. [from my Tampa 2 response further up]

  • In reply to 750mL:

    But we let teams chew up that clock on us, keep our D on the field, I think GB had the ball 10 minutes longer. Martz can adjust, we know that, but can he adjust to incorporating a running game and ball control?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I'm not sure he needs to... yet. Slinging it around is working, for now.

    Come December, I don't know if it'll cut it, and I do worry a little about that. Maybe they'll find their running game by then? Or maybe Martz will figure out a way to complete high-percentage passes in bad weather? I really have no idea.

    Losing time of possession isn't terrible for a Martz offense though (right now at least), because they are high-tempo. They run plays fast, and are capable of getting yards in large chunks. Also not every team will be able to chew up the clock against the D... let's see how things go after some more games.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Mmmmmm..... orange drank. Burp.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    OK, today's "...and death is not an option." question:

    Less Stinky - Panthers or Bills?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Bills, their D isn't as bad as you think. Hell, they almost beat the Patriots. Has the panthers almost beat anyone ?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The force is strong with you Artoo. You're about three feet tall, make cute beeping noises and have a dwarven millionaire Englishman inside you, but the force is strong with you nonetheless.

    And Ryan Fitzpatrick put up scary-ish numbers methinks. Edwards already got cut ...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Think maybe Erstwhile Free Agent and current Giants' safety, Antrel Rolle, wishes he'd taken a longer look at The Bears?

    Coughlan may be losing that team's ear. They should be highly motivated Sunday night.

    This will be a tough, short, turnaround after a very emotional win.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    To all Media Moron's: The penalties the Packers committed were because the Bears forced them into committing them, and the Blocked FG and PR Touchdown were executed by Bears players. Hello....Coo Coo, Coo Coo.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    +1.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    If you feel certain a big receiver is necessary to get it done... this is a good read -- http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81aeab0d/article/on-the-receiving-end-it-seems-colts-are-always-good-to-go

    I'll note that Wayne, Collie, Garcon, and Gonzalez are all 6-0 and 190-210lbs. Only the new kid off the practice squad (White) is 6-2. That means Bennett, Knox, and Hester would fit in size-wise for Manning. I submit that what matters most is developing their route running and keying them into Cutler... that goes for DA too.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    " Manning would take them out on the practice field one-on-one and just drill the nuances of the passing game into them."

    There is no mystery what a guy like Peyton Manning means to his team. I wonder how many other marquee QBs do this...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Definitely. And I have no idea if any others do...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    http://www.buybatparts.com/joomla/index.php/replicas

    I'd like to see Jay buy this (cheap for him) and make fucking olsen ride in the passenger seat wearing a little green mask when they go out on the town.

    Btw, I always find it comical when I post stupid shit like this right after ML's very analytical, straight forward, and very football focused posts.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...I don't know about seeing Olsen in tights:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rebg5YfiBEI

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    and who might play bat girl? JC's new squeeze?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/464735-kristin-cavallari-pics-bears-qb-jay-cutler-girlfriend-in-sexy-new-shoot

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    yow!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That girl is hot. Dead ass hot.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I thought Cutty and Olsen *were* Batman and Batgirl. Bada-BiNG!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hmmmm... interesting question Lobo. Guess so... although I have to say that I don't have much respect for reality created "stars". Buy yeah, guess she'll do.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As long as Braylon or Donte aren't driving ....

    I had that car as a kid. Loved it. Had the red ICBM type missile deal that shot out of the back. Of course it was, sadly, only three inches long. I wasn't violating any arms treaties. Unfortunately.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Apparently he calls up his receivers in the middle of the night and says "Hey, I've got a new hand signal ..."
    "Hey, guess what Manning, I'm giving you one right now. It's 3.30 a.m."

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Their coach isn't called Daryl Drake ...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    He's not happy again....hhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeee:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/28/cedric-benson-frustration-building-on-bengals-offense/

    I love it... Hey Capitan Bust how the Bengals doing for you?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Yeah lobo, I saw that too. He likes to be the big man on campus. Hmmmm...... I wonder if he's been hanging around T.O.?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Stop us if this problem seems familiar: The Packers tackles couldn't hold up in pass protection.

    For you Maxy.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/09/28/bears-packers-one-liners-2/

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Trac.....It's o.k. brother..I like what is happening, let's be the underdog all the way to the bank!! I hope we stay like this all year long under the radar..I really hope it is the motivator to keep our gladiators "pissed off" all season.

    "F" the pundits!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I know lobo and I'm with you there. It's a long shot that any of those bozo's would ever log onto Da Blog but it was worth a try.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    boy'boy...... it sure is interesting on the day after the implosion of the fudgepackers no trolls to be found...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    If they really were trolls lobo? I'm starting to wonder if......... Naw, he couldn't possibly.........would he?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac's....Troll Conspiracy Theory to the test:

    1. Troll watch.. MB,Doc,Irish,B85,Coach,GP,Lobo,johnny,FQ,MBP,Corm, Crown and the rest of the crew go off like a skyrocket by dropping the "F" Bomb in every other sentence..+1

    2. Listen to Master Jedi Al calm everyone down and express us not to feed the Trolls..+100

    3. Find out that the Blogfather is actually MMax Rox's, Big Mold and all the rest of the trolls just to see how we react and go off...........priceless!

    AS "JEFE" LAUGHS FROM A DISTANCE

    maybe? "THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE"

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Shut the fuck up.

    (Did you see what I did there?)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    yes. GP I did see what you did..

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    or GP..should I say "I did see what the fuck you did there.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    http://www.moronail.net/images/stories/dg_pictures/0809/375.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    nice GP..nice.lol

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Did someone just call me "Yoda"?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Cant believe the media is actually saying that GB handed us the game. ITS only cause we beat the two teams they picked to go deep in the playoffs, and now they dont wanna seem so wrong.. DUMBASSES!!! keep pickin against the Bears!

    OTHER NOTE: IM BUYING A URLACHER THROWBACK JERSEY!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Max strikes me as someone who comes in says something inflammatory in an environment where he shouldn't even be and then truly feels as if he didn't do anything worth a hostile response. that is the sign of a very selfish person. i can't see Jeff being Max. Max is a special breed of stereotype all his own. The other little packer minions are just pimple faced 24yr olds with jobs they hate, lives unfulfilled and a desperate need to see Pedo-beard and the pack do well.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    guys..guys it's a joke..get it..relax..I was just pushing it with Trac...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    i know, i just wanted to use my new word "pedo-beard" in some context. I also wanted to throw a heartfelt put down to Max. One that didn't have swears in it but that none the less expressed my view that he is a fucking tool. PEDO-BEARD!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    johnny..he said pedo-beard:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxuCeHUxoBY

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    fucking beavis and butthead, that was a long time ago mang

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    the intangible that no one counted on this year was Hester. They knew the offense had the chance to be kind of effective. they hinted that an Urlacher, Briggs and Peppers led D could possibly be effective. But what they didn't factor in was the resurgence of Hester in the return game. the special teams phase is now officially back on the radar and every team must account for it. The Flyer is back mang.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    johnny..still wish he was on KR's and not just PR's...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Just seems so obvious doesn't it. Surprised Lovie doesn't get thank you cards from other teams for us keeping him off of KR's. He had 1 catch. I know him just being out there has an impact but how can missing a play or two here and there to potentially get us all of those extra yards not be worth it? Somebody make it make sense to me please.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I think it really just had to do with the fact that KR was where he was struggling more with in terms of his psyche, along with having a really good alternative (Manning). Plus there's just so much more abuse dished to a KR vs PR.

    If Hester starts up the TD gravy train again on PR, I wouldn't be surprised to see them add KR (at least part-time) back to his plate...

  • In reply to 750mL:

    +1 to the gravy train

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I watched the game in slow motion, focusing on the line play. Taucher and Clifton were holding constantly, especially in the first half. I counted nine blatant holding penalties that weren't called, with several face masks. The defensive ends, especially Peppers, just owned them. Those are just the blatant missed calls. The Packers went to quicker plays in the second half.

    Other notes:
    Omiyale and Schaefer played good after the first quarter. I also see why J'Marcus Webb got some playing time. Aside from one play, he did very well. He's got a lot of upside. The guy is huge, has really long arms, and is stronger than hell. He needs to work on his footwork, but mostly made up for those mistakes with pure strength. I think he has a good future.
    I love the infusion of new players. Last week Moore had two picks, and this week Jennings hits some people and makes the key fumble recovery. Plus tommie sits. Earn your money boys if you want to play.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Living in the land of Fudge, it's been a pretty nice day. I haven't gloated (on the outside), or talked any smack, but just listened to them all take the initiative and rant about the officials. They were all so smug before the game, and today they are all totally pissed. Even a level headed friend stormed out of my house with 8 seconds left last night. I also got a call right after the game by a Packer die-hard (who can be REALLY annoying) who ranted for about 3 minutes and then hung up. I never said a word, not even hello. It was a thing of beauty. I got so many smack talk texts last night in the 1st half, it was nauseating. I got none in the second half. After they all calm down, I'll explain why the Packers suck.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    C...Silence is Golden....hhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeee

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I wore my big game "lucky" shirt last night and today, the 20+ year old shirt with holes in the armpits and sleeves, and my Bears visor. I never said ONE word about the game today, but just listened to all the Packer fans bitch today. It was awesome. LOL thinking about it. I'm 1-5 in my picks, but got the only one that counts right. Al, keep picking against the Bears. Only one fan had any grace today. She said the Packers deserved to lose, with no complaints, and she has to wear my Briggs jersey for the next game.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Fear not. I will pick against the Bears until they record an "L". "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Pedo-beard. Strangely amusing. Speaking of Pedo-beards (see, it's already in common usage Johnny!), anyone think Favre looks about seventy years old all of a sudden?

    Every day that goes by I think we'll beat them by another point.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Next week on Waffle's World : the life of a Brown's fan.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Seriously if everyone is tired of the media bashing our team and not giving us the respect that we earned. Then get CSNCHICAGO, strictly Chicago Sports and no othe bias bullshit

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    What a sweet, sweet win and an intense, captivating game!

    * He had no sacks, but Peppers showed tonight he was worth the big bucks. He was almost single-handedly responsible for a ridiculous number of holding calls and false starts, not to mention his blocked FG (as good as a turnover). Did he also force the intentional grounding, I didn't catch who did? He was a true terror, and the whole DE corp completely exposed GB's OTs...

    * Clay Matthews held to 0 sacks baby! Maybe 0 forced penalties too, unlike Peppers (Garza and Kreutz each had 1 holding call IIRC but I think vs interior players). Shaeffer (and Webb for 1 series) held Matthews in check.

    * Never had lost faith in Hester, and hopefully he's turned the corner (yes, pun intended). That was vintage Hester out there last night.

    * Lastly, I'm loving the continued aggressive approach Smith/Martz! Both 4th-and-goal calls in Week 1 and again tonight were right and the actions of a winner. I'm glad he hasn't let the criticism make him go timid. (I might've preferred a QB knee at the end, but a small quibble at best... I'm not complaining.)

    Once again, BEAR THE F DOWN!

  • In reply to 750mL:

    did you copy and paste this from the last thread? hahhaha

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Heh yeah, pretty much. When Jeff puts a new post up, the old post discussions go abandoned and I never know if anybody will read a late comment.

    I feel kind of stupid reposting, but under this system it seems the logical thing to do...

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Most of us have done it

  • In reply to 750mL:

    its cool dude.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I don't know if it's my twisted sense of humor or if it is even really that funny but if you really think about the last play of the game when the Fudgers tried to lateral the ball, it must have been very humiliating for the average Fudger Fan watching that. What a pathetic display of desperation by their supposedly Super Bowl bound football team. Ha ha, what a bunch of tools.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Rewatching some highlights, on the Briggs/Urlacher strip at the end that Jennings recovered, Jennings totally whiffed on his tackle in the first place. By the way, what was J'Marcus Webb doing on the field for Shaffer ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I saw him too, Irish. You never heard boo about it from the ESPN broadcast team.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hello Gentlemen-

    I love hearing/reading about how the Bears didnt win as much as the Packers 'lost'. Great. We got the W.

    The NFL is essentially a race to 10 wins. 10 usually always gets you in. No matter how we collect those w's, in January all that matters is your still playing.

    That being said let us all just take a breath and remember we started last season 3-1.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    And that the Bronco's went 6-0, the Giant's were 5-0. Neither finished very good and didn't get to the playoffs.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I was shamed into figuring out how to post an avatar. So now I got that going for me.

    Forgive me if this point's already been made. I am determined to post more often but sadly don't seem to have the time to read everything, my loss.

    Here's what everyone needs to tell all the idiots who say Packers lost because of stupid penalties - i.e. they're the better team but for their lack of discipline.

    There are several different categories of penalties - penalties of aggression (hitting qb in head or facemasks) - penalties of boneheadedness (too many men on field, hitting a guy who called fair catch, delay of game) - penalties that are just execution penalties that may be judgment calls by the ref (pass interference when both guys are tangled up, blocks in the back that may or may not be, holding that may or may not be) - and my favorite, penalties that occur BECAUSE YOU AREN'T AS GOOD AS THE GUY YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO.

    These would be false starts that occur because you're trying to get an early jump, offensive holding that occurs because you're about to be beat, pass interference that occurs because the receiver across from you is too fast for you.

    Someone needs to count up and categorize the penalties that occurred in that game. I would propose that at least half of them were in that last category, and more than half of those were called because of Julius Peppers. Just add up the false starts and offensive holding calls - how many were there? That wasn't because the Packers were undisciplined or stupid. It was because their guy wasn't as good as our guy.

    Add in the pass interference calls. If you're a Packer fan you don't have to agree with every one of those, but certainly several of them were because we have Devin Hester and Johnny Knox as receivers. They're too fast for that secondary, the corners get scared and overcompensate, hence a pass interference call.

    You get where I'm going here? Some penalties are stupidity or incompetence and others are caused. We caused many of those Packer penalties because our guy was better than their guy. Pass it around to the Packer putzes you know!

    Also, time of possession is going to get skewed with this team. Easy to explain is the Hester runback which gave them an extra possession. But the other explanation is very exciting to me. Did you notice (I know you did) how LONG it took for Rogers to move the ball down the field? Now typically that's viewed as a huge positive - look at the long drive, keeping the other's offense off the field, the "all important time of possession" - and often Pack would score from that drive, so they weren't meaningless yards.

    But on the other hand, did you see how freaking fast Martz-Ler moved the ball down the field? VERY FREAKING FAST.

    So THAT'S what we have to look forward to, and what it means is, the game's never over. I see some more late game heroics coming from this crew.

    And I LOVE'S ME SOME JAY PRIME CUTLER and some MIKE S'MARTZ and some HURT LACHER and some ORANGE PEPPERS!!!!

    WE GOT A TEAM!!!!!!!

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Great choice, Phil.

    "Remember the Avatar!"

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Agreed on virtually every point. BTW, there were 8 penalties attributable to the Packers OL being outmatched -- 3 holding, 4 false starts, and the intentional grounding. What's insane is that 6 of the 7 holding/false starts were forced by Peppers. I don't know who forced the IG (it was the left DE and DT).

    Hester drew one PI because Woodson was beat badly, and Burnett committed the other PI because he was behind Bennett and scared.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    I like your house Phil :o)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Interesting observations while watching the the Fudgpackers game:

    * when I initially heard that T.Harris was benched, I was like "What! Already?" Then they bench Bowman and experiment with Webb, Jennings, and Smurf (last week). Not to mention all the other personnel jugglings...say what u will about the coaching, but they're showing some cojones - I'm sure the threat of being unemployed has something to do with it lol "necessity is the mother of all invention."

    * I don't know if it was because of playing the Fudgpackers, or playing on MNF, or playing for being undefeated and in sole possession of 1st place, or that new crazy ass haircut, but even b4 the 1st punt, when I saw Hester bouncing around back there, trying to get the crowd into, I just FELT like the old Hester was back. His subsequent play brought a tear to my eye. His run back doesn't affect just this game, but all the games hereafter. Hopefully, it's 06 again, and we get to start nearly every possession near the 40 - and Martz and Cutler unlike Rex the Hex, WILL take advantage of it.

    * Bend but don't break usually leads to our D players getting broken, literally. I know we've been effective with executing the philosophy this year, but the more you leave ur players out there, the more they have a chance to get injured. That's why seemingly every mid-season, we have a lot of injuries. It's hard to "fix what ain't broke" - but this scheme seems to break our starters, then we get in trouble. Couple this with Martz strike-fast O, and it will be a miracle if the injury bug doesn't decimate us this year again...knock on wood...

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Ive worn the same outfit for the last three games and we have won, idk but im superstitous. I will be wearing it again next week.haha

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Fresno as long as they keep winning bro...you can wear it until it stands up by itself if it gets us to the SB

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    hahaha to funny bro.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    See what I mean about picking against the Bears?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    If they were real fans they would be on here complaining about how we cheated them out or how we got lucky.

    If they were one of us, wouldn't that person be too busy talking about how good we are to say anything and forget they are the Cheese squad and make us realize that they are the ones?

    Sigh, I give up. I will go back to calculus for now.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    trac..what the hell did you start that I can't finish..STOP THE CONSPIRACY GUYS!!!!

    It was a joke!!!!!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    LMAO lobo. Even if it were true, it would be too hard to believe Jeff was a double agent. Kinda like when Donnie Brasco went undercover into the mob and when they found out the wise guys refused to believe it. Maybe we'll find out when he writes his Autobiography.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Dude! One of the best autobiographies I read was Joe Pistone/Donnie Brasco's. What a crazy life that is! Sorry, you you have got to be majorly screwed in some way to have a family AND live that double life where you never see your family. Hardly see them anyways. Great read.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    For King and Country?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Oh, and usually Fanhouse is phenomenal wasteland, but here's a surprisingly decent article that gets some insight to the players' mindset -- http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/09/28/versatile-hungry-bears-prove-their-worth-to-packers/

    Someone posted this already, but an Isaacson article that isn't useless and delves into the benchings -- http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=5624765

    And because I just love the quote so much, here it is again: "I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss," Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher said. "Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do."

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Thanks Michael. I really enjoyed it when Jennings said, "We fly to the ball. We try to strip it. Brian just knocked it loose. I saw it sitting there, sitting there like you're walking and find a hundred dollar bill. I claimed it.''

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    awesome

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Haha, yeah I loved that line too...

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Briggs. Dang, even the players are giving it to Urlacher.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I promise you that it was Urlacher

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It was Urlacher. The 2nd replay makes it 100% clear.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/chicago-bears/09000d5d81ae5906/Tim-Jennings-fumble-recovery

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    274th!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Coolest glasses ever!
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-interviews/09000d5d81ae9923/Peppers-talks-about-Bears-big-win

  • In reply to Church:

    Malcom X?

  • In reply to Church:

    Malcom X

  • In reply to Church:

    Peppers looks a bit like Jimi Hendrix. Don't laugh, pull up videos of them speaking side by side.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Holy shite, you're right. Throw a fro, a carpeted vest, a strat and give number 90 some lighter fluid and you got a look a like of the greatest guitarist of all time.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So, I was watching the game at my boy's house and after the flag on the PR right before Skunk went distance I noticed something I haven't seen in a looooong time; Hester was dancing like he used to do in '06 and '07. I don't know if they were cranking Soldier Boy in the stadium for the first time in a while (b/c that tradition has stopped), but honestly when I saw him doing the Stanky leg or whatever he does, I said for the first time since '07 that he was taking it to the house. I know it's a little crazy; but I think cranking that soldier boy relaxes him and he just reacts more instead of thinks. Soldier Boy needs to return to Soldier Field on the regular.

    I really like the players overall demeanor and attitude. I feel like they are staying humble, taking things week to week and are willing to play hard for 60 minutes. After our super bowl appearance, I think the players got too arrogant, couldn't finish games and thought they were a better squad than they actually were. I've seen this change personified in the way Urlacher now speaks to the media.

    I was having a bad feeling about this week until I found out the Bears are 2 point dogs; now I feel better. I don't want national media attention or commentators creating a bandwagon. Keep underestimating us, keep making us underdogs, keep doubting the o-line and secondary. The Bears play better when they're in the shadows.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Ur not crazy! lol I noticed the same thing (see my previous post a few posts up).

    On another silly sidenote, I read that all the LBs got their Faux-Hawk cuts as a show of solidarity, and Lach one preseason practice rushed into the barber room and said 'Ok man, just do it' But the barber was like - ugghh, u need some hair for me to work with lol So now, I've been squinting my eyes to see his Hawk do, and I saw it! It's almost microscopic to the naked eye, but it's there! lol

    BTW, Hester has the best do, followed by DJ Moore, then the backers...

    http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/grizzly-detail/Whats-Up-With-DJ-Moores-Hair--103247929.html

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    This is Devin's Do:

    http://www.tremendousupsidepotential.com/2010/09/sweet_haircut_devin_hester.php

    Lach and the LBS sweet Hawks (sadly, Lach ditched the Hawk lol)

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bears-fire-lovie-smith/2010/08/bears-linebackers-hairbrained-scheme-mohawk-gallery.html

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Crown-

    You are right. Devin used to play Soulja boy and do the "crank that" dance back in the day when he was returing everything for TD's...they played it again on MNF and he did the dance. Result? Td? Coincidence? Yes.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ha... ONE piece of respect.

    Are we still under the radar?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/thomas-alter/the-bears-arent-who-we-th_b_742863.html

    Oops.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The most confused ref I've ever seen:

    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81113604/

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    LOL.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Fella's,
    I have the black and orange flowing into my viens from that IV and cannot wait till sunday night then head up the road to charlotte to see us whip some kitty kat ass Bear Down Brothers in Arms this season should be great! As long as love fest and babich patch dont FUCK IT UP!!
    PANKSTER

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    ALMOST FORGOT FUCK U ESPN!!

  • In reply to pankster:

    +1

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Thank you, Lobo. THAT is FUNNY!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    The Seahawks honestly are looking pretty decent. I live around here (now) so I've been able to see them up close somewhat.

    They still have their issues, but they're a team that I see as being capable of putting up a competitive fight. I'm glad that one is at home.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    One of my best friend is a hawks fan... got a big assed hawk tat on his shoulder when he was young (and dumb)... called me last night and tried to give me the "nice lucky win dude, and same old shitty cutler I see"

    I gave him the, "Yeah, nice tat on your shoulder D-bag, and we'll see your lucky asses... talk about lucky kickoff returns bitch... in a few weeks, in our house. Tell old man hassle-back to get ready for a broken fucking hip courtesy of the Ghost Peppers... ho.

    Oh, yeah and tell me what this sounds like punk... Click."

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ...and yes, I know that's very childish ML, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the ultimate pimp slap...calling your best friend a ho and then hanging up.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Haha, it's all good. Fight fire with fire, right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Nepotism Simms says the Giants will turn it around soon. Since he's so brilliant, I guess its bound to happen.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=5626133

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Laughing my ass off at Eli.

    The Panthers certainly had the worst QB in Mat Moore. I've only seen him in one full game, but jebus he was really very bad.

    Seahwawks - thankfully we have them in Soldier field. Jekyll and Hyde team.

    Redskins/Bills - time to swallow your own gonads if you slip up on either of those two bananaskins. Maybe Portis will attempt more hilarity by wearing a silly costume for us, the oxygen deprived nonce.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I've never been impressed with Eli. The only difference between Eli and Rex is David Tyree's helmet. And a last name. And about 16 games more patience. He's had some great moments, but he's never been an elite QB in my eyes.

    The real weakness that pops out though is both their OTs... that game in Indy was beyond brutal. Granted this will be in NY (er NJ) so they probably won't be as bad, but yikes. Hopefully the DEs get a monster game going...

    Agreed on Seahawks and Bills. Redskins look like a team that could improve possibly over a few weeks though. Not sure I'd call them a banana skin like the Bills.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    In honor of MB30, my nickname for Aaron Rodgers is now "Hand Jive".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    i think he is a great QB but he lost some points with me with the hand jive shit. I thought he was going to go all shooter mcgavin on us. Aaron - i know you play for GB but you can still resist the temptation once in a while to act like a tool.
    Speaking on tools...listening to Jaws on last nights broadcast must have been concerning to Rodgers girlfriend/wife. She must have been thinking to herself, "are they fucking sleeping together? No one blows Rodgers that hard except for me!"

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Ha.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    If we can get a third rounder for Tommie Harris, especially from one of the current 0-3 teams, I'd take the trade. I'd even take the trade if we had to play him in a few weeks in, say, Buffalo.

    Shaba should stay in the rotation. The time will come when one of our recievers (Shaba, Bennett, Knox, Hester, Davis) will have to step aside to make room for a true #1, but that could be a season or two away. I'm not saying Shaba won't be the guy to move (or trade) but for now he's a great player and should stick around.

    Chris Williams also needs to stick around. He's not a total failure and he provides at least some depth on the line. And left tackles are expensive to come by, even at middle skill. We would not get enough for Chris to be worth the trade, especially since we'd likely just use the pick on another tackle. Maybe we could package Chris Williams and Tommie Harris for an upgrade on the line, but who's got an upgrade like that to spare?

    Oh and Irish - hang in there. I remember when I started my own thing, someone told me "at least you know you'll always wake up with a job." Have to tell you how true it is... think about it. Bear down.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Maybe we can do a deal with the Colts. Surely they have a respectable guard or tackle on the bench they can part with. They have one of the best O lines in the NFL and Tommie is pretty good stopping the run which Indy needs help with.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Now is the time for some ex-Bear who at least pretends to care about Tommy to go to his house and sit down with him and give him The Speech.

    We all know what The Speech says.

    I nominate Dent. Harris won't listen to Hampton. Dent can take the Christian angle with him, that might work. Trials of Job and all that shit.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I don't know if that would work GP. Somewhere along the way, a person's value's change. When some of these guys get rich, the game loses it's meaning it once had. Take all his money away and strip him of his mansion and you may see the hunger return. I don't think the man wants to put in the work any more.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Like in The Game. Call Sean Penn.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I thought Harris was born again? Is he not even listening to the Lord? Prepare your fields for the rain son ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Many will stand before the Lord, and the Lord will say, Depart from me, I never knew you.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Agree with trac. Let him be someone else's poor man's haneysworthless. You know, all the drama but without any of the skill. Uhhhgggg... what a waste. Sad.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dent.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Thanks New Bear, that's kind of what I'm aiming at, live or die by your own hand. Idiot bosses blow. About 12 years since I had a good one.

    On TH - if we got a third rounder for him we'd get third round talent. He's still in there somewhere, and if we rotate him more he should be fresher. I'm not surprised he didn't rock anyone's world if he's on the field all day because we're giving up long drives to everybody. Tommie is like make-up or salt, less is more.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I was thinking what 0-3 team in a few weeks might feel out of it already that we can take a vet off of for some draft picks? Do Tommie 1st so we have more ammo. Maybe Manamana too if he isn't an upgrade over Dez. Is he? With JA's %'s hitting in the draft, I am all for getting any kind of proven talent for those picks.

    A pass rusher that can consistently beat single coverage opposite Peppers would make us vicious to deal with even more so than an O-line, Secondary or WR upgrade IMHO.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Get real.

    The guy was "Inactive - Coach's decision".

    Who's gonna give #3 for THAT?

    He might as well have "T'M A QUITTER" tatooed on his forehead.

    You MIGHT get a 3...as in $2 Bill.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +100

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Knox must stop returning kicks. There is just something about it that scares me. I feel like he will fumble at any moment and the slightest hand on his thigh brings him down. I like Gump and Skunk back there.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Are you plugging for Hester?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    i'm thinking Manning but i don't want him to get hurt because we still put him on D. I like Hester on kickoffs and punts but you can't return a kick and be ready for the first series can you? the thought of it makes me tired.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Only an issue if they actually kick to him

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Swap him for Shabba, easy.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Manning too. Should be Hester's job period. Dress him up as a WR for a few plays if we must, but right now on a weekly basis we line up our #1 an #2 WR and starting SS on a turkey shoot.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It is a little worrisome, but when all 3 of them are as good at it as they've proven to be... how do you not?

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Brilliant!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    What was the 'belt' celebration all about? I could only think of either ..

    1. He was donning a gunbelt in reverse fashion.

    or ...

    2. He was donning a knee-length skirt and saying "Do I look good in this or what?"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The Slackers should feel lucky they only had 17 flags. It should have been more like 30, literally.
    I also have to take my hat off to Peppers. I was worried when we signed him because Carolina accused him of taking plays off. He hasn't, he is a beast. It has been awhile since we had a DEnd get double teamed on the right side and still stop the running back on the left side at the line of scrimmage.
    One of the biggest problems I noticed during the game was our open field tackling. Especially when we drop our guys back and not bump at the line. I think our OLine and WR problems will work themselves out, though.

  • In reply to Church:

    I'm telling you. Watch the replay and look at how they stopped Arron Rodgers from dying. They were literally holding JP, from shoe laces, jersey, and body parts.

    The man still disrupted them. Kudo's JP.

    I am tempted to buy a JP jersey. He is the player we have missed on D.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Every Fuckin' Play!!!

    deep breath deep breath

    Ahhh Ooooomm

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Just not one of those ugly 40s throwbacks. And no 'C' on the helmet, it's not right.

  • In reply to Church:

    Was anyone else impressed by Jennings in place of Bowman? He was a tackling machine last night. Bowman might have a nose for the ball, but he's kind of a pussy from what I've seen. Might be a good idea to rotate those two depending on the receiver.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I loved his little celebration when he layed the wood on one play. Forgot who he hit.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    donald driver trac

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Jennings was the best sure tackler last night. They had a lot of YAC yards last night. We gotta get better at wrapping up.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    except for the missed tackle he had on Jones, but I suppose covering the fumble 54 forced makes up for that.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Lac was there, but it was Briggsy that stripped. it's all good. The blocked FG edges Pep over Briggsy for MVP.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It was the other way around. Briggs and Urlacher both wrapped up, but it was 54's arm swinging around that punched out the ball.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    For sure. +1 for Tim Jennings.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    For sure.

    +1 for Tim Jennings.

  • In reply to Church:

    +1 on the missed open field tackling ender. It reminded me of that Vikings game last year where we couldn't take AP down.

  • In reply to Church:

    +1 on the flags, for sure.

  • In reply to Church:

    Cutler's a hero in Denver, gets traded to Chicago, all of a sudden he's a crybaby douche back in Denver. Peppers is a legend in Carolina, goes to the Bears, then the rag on him is he takes plays off. Sour grapes.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    reporter: "Think you were slightly lucky today Gary?"

    Gary Player :"I guess so. The more I practice the luckier I get."

  • Well said Doc. +1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +2. The bend but don't break style D was difficult to watch, but it worked.

  • http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/09/28/packers.collins.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

    Packers are a bunch of fucking thugs, but if that fan did what Collins said he did, then that's just patently unacceptable and is just stooping to their level. There's no place for that shit anywhere.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I doubt Collins story. Nobody is stupid enough to shout the N-bomb at him when 75% of the Bears also have the same skin color, not to mention the 300 lb. security man at the top of the aisle.

    No way did some guy drop the N-bomb on Collins. Collins is playing the race card to justify throwing something.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Really and truly, I can't think of anything someone would call me to justify throwing something into the stands. To me it's just a reflection of the lack of discipline their team displayed during the game. And by the way, penalties are always a symptom of weakness when it comes to football. They are normally a result of the other team beating you at your position.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Pretty soon Ted Thompson will come to games in a track suit with his thinning grey hair slicked back.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Al Thompson. Sounds about right.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Don't worry GPL, Max is busy renting his mouth out at a truck stop bathroom stall glory hole somewhere in Bo(h)ner Lake. Silent H.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Max: "Gurrshflllllshh...gglllkuckyouCrown...grrrggllll"

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I PERSONALLY HATE STEVER YOUNG!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Don't hate him, pity him, Fresno.

    Just a few too many whacks to the head for Stevie.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    We were not the only ones who saw all the holdings that should have been called.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Was it Brandon Jacobs throwing his helmet into the stands last week ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That would be a "yes" for Mr. Jacobs.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think Urlacher and hairstyle were the only two honkies on there last night. Apart from, y'know, the Quarterbacks. I mean who throws an N-bomb at a football stadium ? The only white guys left are QBs (mostly) punters, kickers and cortisoidal O-Linemen.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    No kidding right?

    But don't forget GirlyThor (as you guys like to call him) and Steltz! ;)

  • http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2Jo4YG/i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201009/100927.04.jpg/r:t

    I hope Da Coach punched that douchebag in the mouth.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He was promptly donkey punched MB

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Excellent Coach, excellent.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He's pretending he's Broadway Joe or something. Maybe it's his "throwback" jersey.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Pop quiz, name a more over-rated QB from NFL history than Broadway Joe. You have a five second time-limit ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Isn't he in the Hall too? While many greats including Dent are having trouble getting in? WTF?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We're 3 and 0. Every one of us deserves some felation.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Don't give Suckatansky ideas. He maybe out of solitary by now.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Heard on the Packer radio broadcast last evening from Wayne Larivee:

    "This is as PAINFUL as it gets".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    That traitorous dolt.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Easy on Wayne Larivee please.

    I think he's excellent.

    You just KNOW he's another solid employee the McCaskeys chased out of town.

    You don't trade the Chicago radio market for cheeseland by choice.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    + 1 Al. I enjoy listening to him when working on Sundays. Plus he's good on college FB and BB games. I think he went to GB because he's a Packers fan.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I will always believe he went because the Bears said "Of COURSE we won't pay you what you're worth." Never should have let Jim Durham leave, either.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Wow, been watching espn today, these jokers are still sticking to their guns. Dilfer just said he likes the giants next Sunday at home. What a fucking idiot. That's what pride does to these analysts, seems like they'll swear we suck all the way into January.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    It's all good Ben...when we win on Sunday they say "Well Eli had a bad day" or "The Giants gave the game away" it's all good bro..as long as we get the "W"s they can eat the assh#!@$#!@$le out of a skunk all I care:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXRBELZpKak

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    First of all who the fuck is Trent DiCKler? he only won a SB cause of the defense. He is a Fresno boy but i fucken despise him

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Nah, I bet the storylines will be:
    "Giants seriously imploding... will Coughlin last past the bye week?"
    "Bears still riding wave of good luck"

  • In reply to 750mL:

    ML..scary part..you might be right.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    At some point in time they'll finally get it. I'm guessing right around the time we best the Fins and are 10-0.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Wouldn't that be sweet?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Larry Csonka will be nervous if that happens.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Man, on a posting frenzy today. But here's some backup for the taking a knee at the end of the game -- http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/packers-erred-by-not-allowing-late-score-to-bears/

    It's possible Martz (or Smith) told Forte to down himself at the 1, but if so I'd rather they just make it obvious and take a knee instead of fueling the "can't score in goal-to-go" fire. Anyway, going for the TD isn't a terrible decision, just not the best.

    P.S. Brian Burke's site is good reading too. Here's the same article on his site -- http://www.advancednflstats.com/2010/09/should-gb-have-let-chi-score-td.html

  • In reply to Crowned:

    And no grannies with their falsies out.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What the *hell* is that? And why hasn't the Coach got him in a headlock?

  • I think every packer fan should have one of these...just always leave the seat down: http://sports.gunaxin.com/team-themed-toilet-seat-covers/71662

  • I'm going to go back and try and get a count on blitzes and down and distance tonight. We seem to obviously be getting more pressure on the quarterback but more frequently with our front four, with run blitzes into the A gaps on obvious rushing downs.

  • I'll get better at this Doc. I shall be more thorough next time.

  • The sleeping giant has woken up motherfuckers!!! Hester is back!! Just another piece of the puzzle taking shape for our dogshit, lucky ass, piss poor, embarassment of a 3-0 NFC leading franchise Chicago Bears. How many teams this season will "beat themselves"? Maybe we can go 0-16 yet still make the playoffs and make it to the big show? If you read the papers and listened to the pundits you'd think that Cutler was the second coming of Cade McNown. He was once again 1 dropped TD from a 100.00 passer rating 2TD's and 1 INT. Holy shit, let these fucking reporters keep talking shit as we keep improving every week. Every week this team gets better and finds out new and exciting ways to "luckily" beat their opponents. ESPN, NFL Network, DILFER!!!, 670 the Score, ESPN 1000, Boers and Bernstein, McCarthy, Rosenfuckingdicksuckerhackfagpessimistneverplayedafuckinggameoffootballinhislifebloom, pack fans and the rest of the sheep...fellate me now and watch the fucking show get better.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny, please feel free to call out by name the following assholes:

    * Don Banks (SI)
    * Peter King (SI)
    * Steve Fucking Young (ESPN)
    * And that absolutely disgusting display all game by Ron "suckin rodger

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I can't even think of Don Banks making actual income from the piss he produces on paper without getting sick to my stomach. Imagine,there is some hungry kid out there looking for a shot at real sports journalism and Banks is busy going to the bathroom on the profession. I don't even want to talk about Seifert because that little nerd is just aching to put Shiancoe's penis in his mouth. Can i get some unbiased reporting at some point during my lifetime?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The only show I listen to on podcast is Mully and Hanley johnny. The rest suck and spend more time talking about themselves and trying to sound smart. M&H were praising the Bears all morning.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Remember when we were debating Julio Iglasias vs. Bennett?

    I picked Bennett but only because I thought Julio sucked worse. I give the Bennett kid credit, he re-habbed properly and now he's playing some inspired slot despite missing PS entirely.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    the reason why i loved Bennett from the minute i saw him 2 years ago was because the kid is a fucking baller. All he does is get open and catch passes. No flashy moves, no 4.3 speed, no 6'5 frame, just football instincts and hands.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Bennett is solid.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Bennett does nothing flashy, he's just a possession receiver who moves the chains and catches anything close. He's also had a pretty high average per catch. And he can block.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    100% with you all along, Johnny. Just like you said, the kid just gets open and catches the ball.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    #1 Shabba
    #2 Knox
    #3 Bennett

    KR/PR Hester

    What's wrong with this picture?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Picture perfect Irish.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    100% GP. Big fan.

    I watched one play (can't remember which) where he was juuuust in the frame of the TV at the very top of the screen and he was fighting and kicking and scraping to stay on a block no matter what, to spring the guy who had the ball. Basically the exact opposite of Skunk.

    ...yeah yeah yeah, olsen's better than last year, but I still saw him get owned on a coulpe ATTEMPTED blocks on 52 and 54

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Watching Olsen on replays so far he seems to be much more willing to block, he just seems to not know who to block a lot of the time and he gets owned when he does find someone a lot too. I think his blocking IQ is just really low. He makes a lot of big time catches though. He is a full grade better at blocking so far this season I would say if not a little more. Keep improving Thorlilocks. He is worth the trade off, especially if he gets better.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bennett appears to be all class, and a grinder. You know the coaches think highly of him too because he was given a free pass on the preseason -- they didn't even ask him to play in the last game, saving him up for the regular season. That's not Angelo's call, that's the coaches.

    The kid is tough, and he fights to make blocks. More importantly, he makes those possession catches over the middle without fear.

    To be fair to Hester though, he'd never learned to block -- and never had to until he became a full-time WR -- and he does seem to be getting better. He had a HUGE block on Knox's 38-yarder you can see on the nfl.com highlight.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Anyone loving Brandon Lloyd recently? That was a damn shame.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I was surprised to hear his name again... but apparently he's making some hay out in Denver with Orton again. Had a big TD catch on Sunday.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Watch him while you can. His track record makes him the "Chris Chandler" or "Mike Brown" of receivers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Young gets a pass because he said he learned the game of football by backing up Jimmy Mac at BYU and then went on to become the highest rated QB ever. But throw Theisshole onto that list of 'experts' in particular. And Jaws should know all about interceptions as he threw as many as he did TDs, so shut up Jaws.

    Oh and Kevin Seifert :
    "I'll be the first to admit that I never saw the Bears as the NFC North's final unbeaten team, let alone the entire conference."

    Ahem, isn't it your job to see that? What is it that you do exactly?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    "..fellate me now and watch the fucking show get better."

    That should be on the DBB T-shirt ...

  • Yeah Doc. The fact of the matter is, OUR stock is on the rise while the Fudgers and Queens are moving in the wrong direction. Ha.

  • Said it before.

    You camn have the stats, we'll take the win because..

    "Statistics are for losers."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    And 73.8% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

  • My concerns with the cover 2 are that those long drives will tire the D out and give our O much less of a window to work with since the other teams O has the ball so long but it's working so do what you do coaches. People keep saying that we have the personnel for the 3-4. Thoughts?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I'm hoping that Nelli is gaining confidence in our D, and he is at this very moment working on some Blitz packages for the Giants.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I'm not sure which people are saying that. It's always hard to project personnel into new systems with new responsibilities, but it's a stretch.

    Izzy seems like he could play a 5-tech DE, and maybe Adams too. No idea for a nose... maybe Adams, and maaaaybe Harrison, but I don't see another candidate.

    Briggs is literally the perfect 4-3 under-tackle WLB for a Cover/Tampa 2. I don't know if he is nearly as excellent or even above average at ILB or OLB. He could maybe be a joker type in a hybrid 3-4, but he's never shown great pass rush skills (but then again, he hasn't been asked to). Who knows with Urlacher? Ray Lewis successfully made a change, so who can say. #54 I suspect would not be well-used in a traditional 3-4 (taking on a ton of OGs), but maybe a 1-gap or hybrid 3-4 he'd still shine.

    Obviously Peppers could be a 3-4 OLB, but would he dominate OTs the same way launching from space vs off the line? Hard to know. Even if he was only very good at it, that'd probably be a tragic step downward.

    All in all, it's hard to say either way if the Bears could run any type of 3-4. A lot probably depends on the coaches. But don't be so enamored with the 3-4... a lot of its effectiveness recently is due to 2 things: 1) cheap acquisition cost of talent, and 2) unfamiliarity by opposing offenses. With fully 16 out of 32 teams now running significant 3-4 packages, both of those factors are going away if they aren't already gone. You still need good 3-4 coaches (there aren't many) and personnel to run a good 3-4 defense.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Brian Urlacher can walk on water ....

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Well, we certainly don't have the nose tackle. I want the Dolphins NT that abused Nick Mangold, Paoli or something ... threw him around like a vietnamese hooker.

  • Man I missed watching Hester do that.

    Most exciting player in the NFL those 2 years and it wasn't close.

    He would be returning kickoffs too if it was up to me. He had 4 of those for TD's. They just used to kick it out of bounds half the time anyway. How tired would he get from that. I like starting at the 40 yard line or closer, like to the other team's endzone closer. If he has to sit a play or two to rest at some point, no fucking problem.

    He isn't racking up his WR bonuses anytime soon but returning another dozen kickoffs, punts and missed FG's for TD's will sure as hell get him those bonuses on his next contract. Win-win for everyone.

  • Plus it's a message to the rest of the league.

    Not only can we adjust to your blitz and burn you (c.f. Dallas), we can just power through it and burn you (c.f. Green Bay). That's how you instill fear in opposing DCs.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    +1 agreed, then they really have no idea what to expect.

  • Yes, you got it exactly right Doc. I'll add that those 2 TDs required 1) a perfect throw, 2) a very athletic QB scramble to convert, and 3) a questionable helmet-to-helmet penalty (did anyone ever see Melton's helmet hit?).

    There are always going to be holes in ANY defense. The Tampa 2 chooses the batten down the long plays (what was GB's longest play? 26 yards?) and keep the holes intermediate... until the Red Zone. It says: if a really good offense and QB/receivers can hit those holes, fine -- but they still have to do it 10+ times in a row without making a mistake, and THEN still have to beat short-field RZ defense.

    BTW, I saw this Urlacher quote last night which made me laugh, but perfectly embodies the Tampa 2 philosophy: "I'd rather have an ugly win than an ugly loss," Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher said. "Yeah, they had a lot of yards, but yards don't mean crap. Points do."

    One more note... I think the Tampa 2 works best with a dynamic offense, and not as well as people might think with a run-heavy ball-control offense. It wasn't as clear to me before, but look at the best T2 teams: Tampa Bay after Gruden arrived, Martz/Smith in St Louis, Indy once Dungy arrived, '06 Bears (the one year Turner's offense was actually aggressive and creative), and Minn after Favre arrived and hijacked Childress's playbook/calling. When you pair the Tampa 2 with a plodding offense, it just doesn't seem to lead to as much success...

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Clearly Urlacher doesn't play fantasy football ...

  • Oh yeah? I'm in Seattle proper, but maybe I'll have to come join you sometime.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    "I'm having an old friend for dinner ...."

  • Good one DOC

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    La Crosse, WI rocks Doc. Beautiful bluffs, and a five mile wide river that is my playground, aka the Mississippi. Luckily the queens and fudgers hate each other more around here, so I don't get the shit I got when living in Madison.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    "Old Style. G. Heilemann Brewing Company, LaCrosse Wisconsin."

    Gotta figure the brewery is history now?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    They're a contract brewery now, and make some shitty ethanol that f**ks up my small engines for my landscaping company.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    No shit Corm. I lived there for almost ten years on and off. One of the most scenically beautiful areas I have ever lived in. I have tons of family and friends there still and get up at least once a year around X-mas. Small world. There are 2 Bears bars I have found. I'll remember the names for you if you want.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Nighthawks Tap is where I go when not on TV. Raz is an old curmudgeon with shitty TV's, but he's always had the game on no matter what. Plus it's my favorite bar, with great live music all the time.

  • When did Lovie learn to coach? I'm seeing discipline, in-game adjustments, specialized game plans. Where the fuck has this guy been? Maybe it's Martz and Rod, but at least one of those I find hard to believe.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    Just maybe there is some kind of symbiosis going on. But whatever it is, I like it.

    Even more than I like seeing Hester run one (almost two) back.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    As far as I can tell, Lovie got his little red hankie and that's it. And as HC he's got to be the guy pulling the 4th&Goal go-for-it BS.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    I submit that, at least Martz, has told him to "Stay the hell out of my way."

  • I've defended it in the past, but it keeps our D on the field if we don't get the turnover and just eats up the clock for the opposition and lets them march up the field. If we could tackle better on the first wave it would suit us better. We gave up a lot of first downs because of whiffed tackles in that game trying to take people's heads off.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Definitely. The missed tackles hurt a lot -- you can't have that. Missed tackles hurt blitzing defenses too -- that's why (I think) Bowman got pulled.

    On that play, the Bears big-blitzed and played man-zero against 3 receivers. Bowman missed his tackle, and LUCKILY Manning was close enough and reacted quickly enough to leave his man and make the tackle. If he doesn't do that, that's a TD because there is no safety (it's Cover 0).

    The Cover 2 is more resilient to missed tackles, but either way NO defense works well when defenders can't tackle well. But you're right, it keeps the D on the field against teams that have the personnel and the plays to consistently attack it. It's a gamble in a sense -- that's why I think if you want to be elite, it needs to be complemented by a dynamic, aggressive offense capable of big plays.

  • That reminds me, the following people to be served a platter of Crow du Jour ...

    Brian Billick
    Joe Theisshole
    Sharpe
    David Haugh
    Fred Mitchell
    Al

    Eat up boys.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Is there any white meat on that bird?

  • It rubs the lotion on its skin and or it gets the hose again ... :o)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    One of the greatest movie lines ever, Irish.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Liver and favah beans, anyone?

    How about some nice Chianti?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Get Some!!!

    NFC StandingsEast Division
    TEAM W L T
    Eagles 2 1 0
    Redskins 1 2 0
    Giants 1 2 0
    Cowboys 1 2 0

    West Division
    TEAM W L T
    Seahawks 2 1 0
    Cardinals 2 1 0
    Rams 1 2 0
    49ers 0 3 0

    North Division
    TEAM W L T
    Bears 3 0 0
    Packers 2 1 0
    Vikings 1 2 0
    Lions 0 3 0

    South Division
    TEAM W L T
    Falcons 2 1 0
    Buccaneers 2 1 0
    Saints 2 1 0
    Panthers 0 3 0

  • You could really use a comma there Doc.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    lol

  • They were 'just having a look at Webb'? Interesting. Jennings looned out on that fumble recovery though. Totally whiffed his tackle on the receiver, which is what Bowman got benched for in the first place. He was just cleaning up his own mess on that play. Can we bench Lovie for making dumb calls?

    Now, irrelevant power rankings, just for giggles:

    ESPN : Jebus H. Packers #4, Bears #6. Worse still, KC undefeated? #15.

    Bleacher report : Wow. Bears #1. "When you beat the team previously ranked second, and the top-ranked team falls, you deserve to be the new number one.". Fair enough! Pack #5.

    CBSsports : Bears #5, Pack #6.

    gambling911.com : Hellooooo? They only have a top ten. The Bears aren't in it, but GB are #2! The Cowboys are #8 !!!

    MSN Fox sports : Bears #6, Pack #7, wait for it, Titans #3.

    Newstimesworld.com : Bears #2, Packers # 8, poor old Chiefs still #15

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The difference was the coverage, Irish.

    Bowman whiffed on a man-to-man coverage with no deep safety... you HAVE to make your tackle in that situation, or else it's a TD. As a DC, you can't call a play like that if you can't trust your corner to tackle.

    Jennings whiffed while in a Cover 2 shell on a 2nd-and-20 with help nearby and also over the top. And heck, for all we know maybe Smith/Marinelli DID bench him... Jennings didn't play another D snap the rest of the game ;).

    I imagine Bowman was only temporarily benched. But seriously man, you can't fault coaches for benching someone who lost their trust by failing in a can't-fail situation... especially when it worked! Do you really hate Lovie that much that whatever he does is always wrong?

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Not faulting anyone on that game, we beat the media's darlings and our most bitter rivals. No arguments and everyone gets a pass. Cutler loses the plot a bit in night games, that's all. But whiffing on a tackle is whiffing on a tackle no matter what coverage you're in. Unacceptable. Wrap it up or sit, I like that.

    With that in mind, Martz needs to dial up our run game on Sunday night in the New Meadowlands. Why?

    The Giants are giving up a lot of silly penalties - unsportsmanlike stuff - and their ST sucks. We aren't and our ST are pretty good. That'll be the difference between us. As will Martz. The Giants are 4th best against the passing game so I'm looking for Martz to suddenly start running it against the 26th worst rush defense in the league. They were testing out J'Marcus Webb against the Packers, see that? Old style Bear football this week ... I hope.

    Freeney and mathis were in Manning's face in lickety-split time every snap, we need to bring Danieal blitzing on the opposite of Peppers and play Tommie Harris, running Briggsy in through that A gap also. Eli isn't such a downer given time.

  • Alien number two is coming home tomorrow mang. My life of sweet sleep is officially over. Monday morning, me and the girls. NBC. Bears/Giants. 4-0. It's all good baby.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That's awesome, man...congrats!
    The sleep thing evened out for us around 4-5 months...and before that, I thing we were just functioning on a baby high.

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