Thoughts on Beating the Packers

  • Raise your hand if last night reminded you of 2006.  There is one major difference.   Jay Cutler is 1,000,000 times the quarterback Rex Grossman ever was.  This might be the worst offensive line in football and Cutler created offense last night where there was none to be found.
  • My mindless support of Greg Olsen for the last year plus is starting to look less mindless these days.
  • It is impossible to dislike Aaron Rodgers.  The kid can play quarterback.
  • As bad as that offensive line is, I thought Kevin Shaffer earned himself a shot at that right tackle spot moving forward.  I'm starting to wonder where Chris Williams figures into all of this.
  • It was a great night for Lovie Smith's defense.  Some will say the Packers dominated the game because they dominated the time of possession but time of possession does not equal points.  The big plays made to Jermichael Finley over the middle were great, great, great throws.
  • Julius Peppers is pretty damn remarkable, ain't he?  I'd love to see another sack or two on his stat sheet but he is currently dominating the opposition in the run game and forcing an inordinate amount of penalties on weak offensive tackles.  And the blocked field goal.  Beautiful.  Somebody needs to step up opposite Peppers at some time season.
  • The Bears are better without Tommie Harris.
  • The Bears are not better without Devin Aromashodu.
  • The Bears should never run the wildcat.
  • I believe I predicted something about Devin Hester returning a punt for a touchdown.  Never been happier to be right in my life.
  • Gotta catch that ball, Desmond Clark.  Gotta.  Catch.  That.  Ball.
  • Brad Maynard had a hell of a game punting the ball.  Both of the terrific Devin Hester returns were partly the result of his forcing the Packers to start inside their own ten.
  • This is the best Brian Urlacher has played since the early part of the decade.
  • 3-0.  Wow.  
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  • First?

    Hell yes, great game and a great time to be a Bears fan! Tommie Harris can suck it. What about some of those REALLY stupid passes that Cutler made towards the end, but was lucky enough to have pass interference called? Reminded me of Grossman. I thought the game was over on 2 different occassions but luckily it wasn't.

    Whatever, 3-0 and first place with the garbage Giants next week and a pretty tame schedule...7-0 anyone?

  • In reply to Perno:

    I said 9-0 if/when we beat the Packers. The Dolphins have a 25 year old Bears voodoo doll in J-Lo's knickers .... streak stops there. Then it's, y'know, 15-1 and the dogs are in Dallas ... against the Kansas City Chiefs.

  • In reply to Perno:

    If you're referring to the pass to Bennett, it would not have looked stupid AT ALL had Earl had an unobstructed path to the ball. When your receiver is stopped in his pattern by interference, the throw is not going to look so good.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    He was double covered and he may have had a tough time just knocking it away from the 2 defenders. Glad we got the call. Not thrilled about the throw. Glad we got the call on the helmet to the head that negated the other pick. Just nervous about counting on the zebras to negate those TO's. Jay makes amazing throws almost know one else can but he could have had 5 picks. (3 without the penalty throws).

    I agree with Johnny, live by the sword die by the sword and he is OUR gunslinger so we take the good with the risks. I just hope he keeps throwing it away and plays somewhat within his super human abilities.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    A little factoid side note. I believe the Bears D has only allowed 13 points in the second half through 3 games. Very respectable.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Yes that's one I was talking about and you're incorrect, the guy that picked the ball off would have still picked it off, even if Bennett had a clear path to the ball. This was when the Bears were marching down the field for a field goal...I can see that pass if you need a TD but not a field goal. Bad decision that the Bears got lucky on.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I am very thankful that I chose to stay in the confines of my own home last night... I have never screamed at the TV so loud.

    I sent messages to all my Packer "friends", telling them to "Eat shit" and "die".

    I hate the Packers more so now than ever before. Screw the Vikes, but I hope the Packers die in a plane crash.

    Nothing to not like about Aaron Rodgers? How about his fucking smirk? How about his faggoty celebrations? I screamed "FUCK YOU" so loud after the belt bullshit that my girlfriend might check me into a rubber room.

    Just reading some of these pro-Rodgers comments makes my fucking blood boil. Sure, he can throw the ball. I dont fucking care. I hope he gets decapitated. I officially hate him more than Brett favre, and that is saying a lot.

    I hate his face. I hate his name. I hate whatever shitty town he's from. I hate his number. I hate his dog, and all of his extended family.

    The next person I see in a Rodgers jersey is getting blindsinded... With my car.

    Phew. I feel better now.

    Okay on to football:

    1) Why not allow holding? Seriously? They did it on every single play... It appears to me, that if your OL isn't holding - they're just not trying hard enough. Fuck the refs, and double fuck the announcers. "Oh, huhuhuh, THAT was a hold, huhuhuhuh" - Shut up and die.

    2) I love you Hester, but... you dropped a pass. Are YOU out for 2 games now? Gimme some Shabba... not ALL the time, but SOME of the time. For JC, man. For JC.

    3) Tommie... Oh, Tommmie. Was it roids? Was it money? Whatever it was, get the fire back you shmoe. This is getting ridiculous.

    4) I'm thinking the option to run a 3-4 would be great. We have the personnel... Why not?

    5) I am so sick of watching our zone defense. Without freaking miracles (see: forced fumble) we get our ass handed to us by any semi-capable QB. We keep saying just how great Douche Rodgers is, but the truth, from my POV - how many of those passes were difficult? The few close call passes he made to players who WEREN'T wide open would have had Jay CRUCIFIED by the fans/media for making such stupid decisions. Fuck you Rodgers.

    6) The first pick Jay threw... Am I the only one who saw pass interference on 2 separate occasions? Yeah, it was a bad toos, but Olsen got knocked off route once 10-15 yards out, and then when the DB cut in front, he got slowed down again...

    I will be re-watching tonight... Hopefully without the same amount of likelihood for aneurysm.

    One more time -

    Fuck you Gay-Rod.

    I'm out.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Nope, you're exactly right about 6...at least the root cause. Olsen was stuck trying to cut back towards the middle with a DB that had the inside position. The timing was off, but the Safety lurking over the top would have made it a difficult reception anyway.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    5.) Rodgers TD pass to Jennings over Urlacher was a tight throw. But that's just one counter example, on the whole your argument is correct. Getting turnovers cannot be your defensive game plan.

  • In reply to Jokey:

    I'm sick of giving up the middle of the field. Rodgers has been studying Lovie's defense for years and could move the ball at will against us. Urlacher and somebody else looked over towards the left hand side of the endzone just as Jennings caught the ball. Somebody missed the assignment and would have heard about that I'm sure.

  • Leave a comment...

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Ok, I will, thank you very much...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    :o)

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Aaron Rogers is a flat out stud.
    Jay Cutler has heart and talent.
    Tommie Harris is expendable.

    Another difference between this team and the 06 team is the coaching staff. Martz is head and shoulders above Turner, and time will tell on Marinelli.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    The replacement of Ron Turner is BY FAR the biggest improvement in the Bears.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Probably nobody noticed, but phrozentundra crept back into the previous thread, most of the way down the comments, to lamely crow that the Packers beat themselves. How come the Bears only won by three with so many penalties, etc etc.

    Man - that shit is so, so weak.

    Go fuck yourself phrozen. Your tackles kept false starting because Peppers was making them shit their pants. Your team was undisciplined, full of cheap shotting like the hit on Cutler to the head and throwing Forte to the ground after the whistle blew.

    The game was 20-17 because Rodgers controlled the clock with a quick throw passing game, because Finley is a monster and they protected well, when they weren't false starting.

    But the cheap shots really told us all we needed to know about who the Packers are - the Raiders of the NFC. Matthews was a non-factor, and your special teams suck. So go fuck your mother, you pinhead.

    I'm sure you'll want your revenge when we come to that shithole you call a stadium. Try not to inbreed too much before then, we have enough gap toothers up there when we drive up to buy dairy products, we don't want to see any more.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You shit for brains inbred retard. Wallow in the swill while you can. Yeah we stunk the fucking place up last night and paid the price. We play that game 10 times and we win 9 of em, so happy Kwanzaa fuck stick. Matthews was a non factor like Cuntler and the Bears are the cream of the NFC. See you in the superior state and bring your mother and sisters, I miss the dick drainers. Fuck off till then.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    At least our mother and our sister aren't the same person. Back to screwing your farm animals Packer douche.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    Oh and wasn't it great to see someone other than Lovie screw the pooch with the red flag at the end of the game. Keep it up Lovie, it looks like you may very well have learned your lesson.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    actually, I'm going to have to throw a flag on your post... no surprise right? In our last 11 meetings, we are up 7-4 since the 2005 season so.. umm nope you can't even get 5 out of 10 times. Hey at least your vaunted team did go out and set a record though, your are the best Packers team ever put together at committing stupid flagrant penalties. Good job.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    FTW, how dare you use... actual facts to back up your statement. And you never called him a name or insulted his state or family. You're weak dude.

    See... all packers and packer fans are classless cheapshot artists. Own the truth packer clown.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Fatality.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I do think there needs to be a rule change after last night's game though... any pre-snap motion penalty inside the 1 is a safety. Moving the ball an inch and getting a new start is not a penalty. I am not just meaning that game, but it is a good example, once your inside the one you can continuously false start or delay the game with absolutely no draw backs.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    The QB or lineman should get a ro-sham-bo every time.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    Blogfathger, I submit tha this "phrozen" post is WELL outside the boundries set forth for this blog.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/Dickey-No-excuses-left-for-Singletary-103907444.html

    Now they want Singletary's head. You had to know it was coming.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Linebacker coach. Bears. Make it so. Time to eat some humble pie Mike.

  • In reply to phrozentundra:

    Just glad we won the one that counted then ......

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jay Cutler is tougher than I thought. Did you see that helmet to helmet. He got crushed and got right up and got to business. On that wildcat play, he didn't just feign block, he dove at motherfuckers trying to take them out. I love that attitude.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    How about putting a move on that guy to pick up the 1st down instead of going out of bounds? Yeah baby!!!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Isn't it great to be talking football again gents? We've got two road games coming up against the Giants and Panther's who are both struggling. I absolutely see us winning the next three games if our boys keep it together. It's not unreasonable to expected our team to be undefeated when we play the Queens if we take beat the Giants on the road on Sunday night. Didn't we have to go through NY in '06? I seem to remember Thomas Jones having a clutch run in that game sealing the victory for us.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh, we absolutely defile the Queens Trac. I guaranteed a smack ont he Pack, but we most definitely put a pike up the dress of the BiQueens. That's traveller's cheques and gold ingots brother.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Jimmy Mac with an arm.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Man, I have to say it, bears offenve still need a lot of work. Especially, in the red zone!!! I am glad the bears won though. I love seeing packers fan all sad and grumpy. All I hear from them is how the packers beat themselves and about how the refs wrong them. Haha.

  • In reply to Bounce:

    The refs wronged them. Yeah.

    The Packers were the most penalized team in the NFL LAST year, with 118 penalties total. They had 17 this game, well on their way to the #1 spot again this year.

    I guess if the cheesedicks weren't the Raiders of the NFC they would win a few more. But they can't help it, they like to take the dirty road home just like Cheeseheads sitting in their fishing huts on frozen lakes do.

  • In reply to Bounce:

    3-0 and dammit it feels good boys (and girls). 1 thing i can't get out of my head:

    what the hell was martz doing calling passing plays inside the 2 minute warning? i understand attack the defense, but this is about clock management. when GB lost that challenge on the fumble, that was time to milk the clock (run, run, pass). glad it worked out in our favor, but it's time to instill confidence in the run game (and you can't do that w/o running the ball). sooner or later (much sooner actually), it's going to get cold in Chicago. in cold weather, the run game HAS to be there; c'mon martzy.....hope you have something in your sleeve.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    The run game definitely needs to be worked on. It is not like we dont have good running backs. Then again bears ol sucks balls. Packers had no run game because there running backs suck.

  • In reply to Bounce:

    Their run defense is also crap.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Then the bears should have ran the ball more. Or should have punched through at the 1 yd line.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Still football related. Whilst watching the game live with my newborn, I lost my job via phone call somewhere in the first half. Not, I hasten to add, because I was at home on a fine Tuesday morning watching the Bears game :o) But thanks to the win and Wally's never say die attitude, it didn't ruin my day. It's not just a game, it's a way of life. Thank you Wally, and thank you Bears.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sorry to hear that Irish, that sucks man. Hope you got a good severence package and have your eye on another gig.

    Really happy to hear the twins are home. Congrats again.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I hope your little girl is doing well, now that she is out of the incubator.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1. Stay up Irish.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Irish I had a kid in an incubator who was 1 lb. 9 oz. and is now 14 lb. Good luck and I'll keep your girl and family in my thoughts. Here's my kid's blog: http://manduchronicles.blogspot.com/

  • In reply to Jokey:

    Wow, that's small. Good to hear man ... I'll check that out, thanks.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    25 Weeks?! Mang. That is one lucky dumpling. Glad to hear that worked out okay....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks guys. #2 comes home next week, hopefully in time for the Giants game!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    sorry to hear that bro...hopefully you'll get back on your feet soon and soon enough

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I am constantly aware that all of us are a breath away from similar situation's Irish. You're a good man and my prayers are with you and your family. God Bless you Sir.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Could be a blessing in disguise. Certain sectors of the Chicago job market are improving.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The douchebags over at Packerforum are having a fit. I guess Nick Collins went after a fan after the game:

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39393121/ns/sports-player_news/

    The Pack: stay classy guys.

    Watching the cheesepricks tear into the coaches is lots of fun:

    http://www.packerforum.com/f8/official-mike-mccarthy-reason-we-lost-thread-22852.html

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Good luck to you and your family. Remember that sometimes one thing has to end for another thing to begin.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    That's it man, an opportunity to make mo' money that's all it is. Upwards and onwards. Today is a new day, and next week is the Giants :o)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sorry to hear that, mang - funny how the little ones make the "big" issues "small".

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Couple more randoms:

    * Hats off the to coaches I've maligned a lot. Not sure if it's lovie (I have serious doubts), but I LOVE the new hardline man. You fuck up in a game, you're yanked. Learn your lesson and get better or you won't play. Has Marinara/martz all over it, not lovie... but it's Bears football.

    * Can we package up Butter and Williams for a real olineman or a true middle disruptor on the other side of Peppers, or a real FS?

    * '85, are you forgetting how all the other experiments turned out for us? How many times out of 10 does dez miss that catch before they give him zero reps at TE? Just saying, if you don't let the guy get time at his real position, then you stick him in there for a clutch play like that, it doesn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good point. I don't like our new tight end anymore anyways. He is just fat and doesn't block well.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Which is too bad, cause he did well in SD.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    and gets paid a king's ransom in Chicago. Coulda used that $$ for some other needs.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Artoo, I gotta tell you that I'm impressed with how much your knowledge of the game has improved. You are truly becoming a student of the game.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Funny stuff from Steve Rosenbloom:

    "Packers offensive tackle Mark Tauscher just false-started again.

    No, wait, he held Peppers again.

    If the Bears can go 3-0 that ugly, imagine what happens if they learn to block.

    Nice to see a stupid and undisciplined team in Soldier Field and not have it be the Bears."

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I honestly don't recall hearing Manu mentioned in three games.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1 on the trade scenarios. Yes to any and all of those.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Love the comments, but I can't believe you're thinking trading Williams after what you thought of Omiyale/Shaeffer just 2 games ago. Do you really think Tice/Martz can't do their adjustment magic as well or better with CW in? And do you want Webb to really be the backup swing tackle?

    BTW I do think this is Lovie, though now having good, qualified, strong-willed coordinators is I'm sure a factor. He's not as much a wimp as you think. (Did you hear that quote of his "There's 4 people with head coaching experience, but there's only one head coach"? He knows he's making the decisions.)

    The one thing I'd say is, before this year, did he have the same level of faith in the backups (Jennings, Toeina, Melton, Bennett) to do this? As much as fans and media have panned these guys, Smith made strong statements about all of them in training camp and with roster cuts. Credit Smith for building depth that he could rely on, and committing to them when he doesn't have to.

    Agree on Dez BTW. But Cutler also knows he should have thrown a better ball.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    If Lovie employs Martz as the OC I wish he'd let him be the OC - I mean who's really making these 4th & goal decisions? got to be Lovie, you know Martz wants the points. We've been lucky so far in that we haven't lost a game, but we could easily have lost yesterday's game by not kicking the FG on 4th and Goal. Briggs' strip saved our bacon.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And it's Lovie *not* being a wimp that scares me. He feels like he has something to prove on 4th & goal like "I'll show these $%&&$@!"

    I definitely wouldn't be in favor of losing CW. Omelette as the backup tackle is as close as I want him to the starting lineup.

    Ditto on all the Peppers love. He was probably held on close to every play. Had Tommie been in there he'd certainly have gotten more push up the middle. time for Shabba to come out of the doghouse. If he can't play slot then put him outside and swap him for someone who can.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1

    Should have gone to a Hester or a Bennett. Would you really trade Williams MB? Roster's thin enough without losing our first rounder, then again he's got a sizeable wedge of cash on his head .... McNeil will be looking for a new home next year.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    +1 FQ. I was thinking the same exact thing. I was wondering if Lovie softly whispered to Martz, "Umm, can we try and run thge ball once or twice and go from there?" It's not that the running gamer didn't get going, it was we didn't even try to run the rock.

  • In reply to Bounce:

    We knew it was coming but, nonetheless, I am already tired of hearing the "The Packers beat themselves with 18 penalties" song.

    SHADDAP, already, with that crap, NFL Net's Mike Lombardi (Who?), 4-Letter's Steve Young (your opinions sound like it was one too many concussions, Steve) and the rest of you "experts" who refuse to admit you have WHIFFED on the Bears. Just like most of you WHIFFED on the Narcissus story.

    As Jon Gruden correctly pointed out during the game, The Bears (specifically Orange Julius) CAUSED most of those penalties. They were BLATANT, "They're gonna call the every time" penalties. The Zebras let another OBVIOUS hold on Peppers go in the 4th because their arms were to sore to throw a flag again.

    Plus, the Bears freely admit, their offense did not play well.
    Just well enough to beat Green Bay.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I will never forget Gruden coming out with "That is how to rotate the spheroid" ... or attempting to garner compliments for using the word 'simultaneously' in a sentence. By the way John, that comb-down is fooling nobody.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It DOES make him look even more like the Chucky doll, however.

  • In reply to Bounce:

    Oh, and "Jackass" or not I WILL be taking the Giants in my picks this week.

    Not that I'm superstitious or anything.

  • In reply to Bounce:

    i don't know what's sadder.

    Tommie Harris INACTIVE, "Coach's decision".

    or

    Devin hester TACKLED BY THE PUNTER!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The punter had backside help coming on that play. You could see Hester thought about juking him, then pulled up so as not to get creamed and chose Option B: sideline.

    Hester is more Franco Harris than Walter Payton. He likes his legs and he hates taking the hit. It's okay, I'd rather he live to fight another day.

    It is, however, the exact same reason he alligator armed that slant-in in the 4th. Cutler is not a poker player, he mouthed "god DAMMIT" clearly and shot a frozen stare at Hester. We have burners on the outside, but only Bennett seems willing to go over the middle.

    Bennett will have to be backed up by scrappy. Scrappy will do whatever you tell him to.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    On that note, Hester would do well to copy Walter's high stepping style which was directly designed to avoid serious injury from being hit in motion. He talked with surgeons to come up with that. Miss you Wally.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Game Balls:

    Julius Peppers - MULTUIPLE holding and false start calls caused, a HUGE blocked field goal and creating the kind of general CHAOS that jusifies that paycheck. Stay healthy, man!

    Tim Jennings. Way to tackle, son. And how did you NOT go out of bounds getting on that ball! Big time!

    PS: I BELIEVE Zachary Bowman disappeared immediately after he whiffed on that 3rd down pass that came up just short of a first down deep in Packer territory. And no, Lovie made it clear he was not removed for injury.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The Bears are coaching angry. Old Bears teams would have left Bowman on the field after he whiffed on that open field tackle. Pisa, Briggs and Child Support all blitzed, Bowman knew it was a blitz yet he gave cushion and then missed the tackle stepping up. That sucked.

    Even with 3 LBs coming we didn't lay a glove on Rodgers before he got the ball out. He just checked off to the throw-out. The guy is good.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He's also a complete fag (not that there's anything wrong with that.)

    He's like the fucking Jarred Allen of QBs with all his lame ass hand celebrations. Idiot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did you see him do that wrestling championship belt celebration after his running TD? What a country bumpkin douche.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Yeah Crown, that's the one I was thinking of specifically when I posted... soooo incredibly gay.

    It's on all the "highlights" about how the packers lost that game. It honestly disgusts me.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I could tolerate Rodgers if he didn't do that shit. He is a tool that has all the tools.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Funny stuff from Steve Rosenbloom:

    "Packers offensive tackle Mark Tauscher just false-started again.

    No, wait, he held Peppers again.

    If the Bears can go 3-0 that ugly, imagine what happens if they learn to block.

    Nice to see a stupid and undisciplined team in Soldier Field and not have it be the Bears."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Re-watched the game. JP would have had a lot of sacks. There were a lot of holding calls not called.

    Remember when Arron Rodgers was running around left and right to get the first? He eventually ran right because Pepper's was coming but Arron got away. Know why? The offensive line literally held onto Jp's foot and then another offensive linemen tackled, not blocked, tackled JP into the ground. Don't believe me? Watch, you see JP trying to jump away but the guy has his foot. Holding Ref, Holding.

    JP, you are the player that we have needed.
    Brigg's your the beast that we know,knew, and always loved to have.
    Urlacher, thanks for coming back and telling everyone why you are beast.

    Johnny, your right, I should be happy and understand that Jay Jay played with heart, toughness, and probably made the best throws ever seen in Solider field in a Bear jersey. The line was horrible, the run game was horrible because of the line, and still we managed to play decent offense just because of Jay.

    I just hate when I see dumb mistakes. That's all. He knows not to throw it into double coverage on one guy. That pass to Earl Bennent at the end? I don't think he catches that with or without the pass interference call. I am just glad they hit him because I was about to die.

    Overall, I will take a W everyday against the Packers. I want to see more players step up.

    BTW, Zach Bowman got pulled out of the game for missing a tackle, Hence, why we saw Jennings. Jennings played great, Moore did a good job, and so did Tillman and Harris.

    I don't know how much longer they punish Aromashodu. I hope they stop, I mean, come on. Mr. Tommie Harris, prepared to be traded or cut. I hope you can come back but I don't any more. Sorry.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I don't think Shabby is being punished 85. Looks like Bennett is the starter and got his job back once he got healthy. I have no problem with that as long as we continue to win catching by committee.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I hear ya Trac, but when was the last time Bennet had a 100+ and 1 TD game like Shabba did week one and during the tail end of last year?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    True Crown but I think both of them are basically possession receivers. Cutler probably prefers Bennett in there. If he was able to run Turner out of town, I highly doubt the Bears would sit Shabby if Cutler wasn't part of that process. So far it's working out cause we're 3-0.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Earl does not drop too many balls, and that will keep coaches very happy. Especially since, as was pointed out earlier, the guy will go over the middle.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I like Earl the Pearl SC. But, DA hasn't had that many drops and has shown he's not scared of the middle either. I just like his size out there and I think Jay likes the big target. Him and Olsen are the only two guys that can catch jump balls. Even though we won, I thought benching him was a mistake. In regards to the other benching, I was actually happy Toe got the nod over Tommie.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    The Packers' bus avoided taking the direct I94 north route back home. It was the only move their coaches apparantly made all week long to avoid six more flags! BOOM!
    You got out-coached... by Lovie SMITH! OMFG that is soooo funny.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/columns/story?columnist=isaacson_melissa&id=5624765

    She brings out some good points.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/daily-chicago-sports-tab/2010/09/tommie-harris-wants-out-of-chicago.html

    wow. Tommie you dickhead. and to think, i once sided with you....

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Said it before it happened.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Not a perfect win by any stretch of the imagination...but in the NFL, you take a win any way you can. Pretty much agree with all of Jeff's sentiments. And man, some of those Rodgers throws were just sick! Peppers was a damn animal out there...he was totally in the heads of the Packer OLine.

    I thought the biggest play of the game was the blocked field goal. The Packers took the second half kickoff and held the ball for half the period...with nothing to show for it in the end. That was huge! Glad some of you mentioned Jennings. I thought he played great in the 4th after Bowman got pulled. Nice to know we may have a little depth at CB after all.

    I must say, I really love how hard this group hits this year. We know the Bears will give up yards, but they are making teams earn every point they get.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    No doubt, the blocked field goal was huge. I happen to think the biggest play of the night came when Urlacher punched the ball out and Jennings recovered. I think it would have been easier to overcome the field goal if it wasn't blocked than allow Rogers to continue eating up the clock on what very well could have been a TD drive.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Does this guy have any trade value at this point? It clearly isn't going to happen for him in Chicago.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    gotta have something. at LEAST a 3rd or a 4th....

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I'd take that at this point. If he really is done in Chicago...something is better than nothing.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    On mature recollection (and watching the replay), one viewer's random thoughts and questions :

    * Messrs Urlacher, Briggs and Peppers, your table is ready. Pep for causing constant havoc, Briggs and Lac (well, Briggsy) for stripping the ball and saving our asses with 2:18 left and allowing us to win the game

    * Cutty didn't quite soil the sheets as much as I thought he did on first viewing, but he definitely could have. His first interception was G. Olsen not being where he should have been. Martz and Cutler could be seen on the sideline afterwards explaining that to Olsen, who was looking very sheepish indeed. The 2nd INT that wasn't was a helmet in Cutler's face. However ... 2 interceptions were indeed just plain dropped by Nick Collins, who also caught a THIRD but was negated by PI by #42. But Cutty stood in there all day taking it, and did have key runs of 10, 11 and 16 yards.

    * Izzy and Pep are getting it done. All we need is to draft a monster nose and we could throw 3-4 fronts at people just to shake people up. I've always maintained and cannot understand why teams do not ever try and employ both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts. You're not a complete defense if you don't IMO. Use Anderson on the edge as an upright LB with Briggs & Urlacher on the inside, Pisa outside. Izzy, Pep as your ends with 350lb monster draft pick at nose. The ability to switch back to 4-3 to suit opponent or situation. Adaptability.

    * How did Rodgers not get murdered? He's Harry Houdini that boy, and as much as it hurts me to say it looks to be about the best QB in the NFL right now.

    * Shaffer owned Mr. Hairstyle all night. Should always have been our RT. If Williams comes back do they put Omelette back at RT? Anyone get a read on Omiyale?

    * After Clarke's drop on 4th & goal, why did we accept each of Tauscher's two penalties when GB were backed up against their endzone? They would eventually have been 3rd and 10 instead of having 3 shots at first down. We were 'gaining' mere inches but keeping them at first down! Decline the penalty!

    * Why was Peppers watching from the sidelines helmetless on the run where it took the entire defense to bring down Kuhn? Do we have a package that doesn't include the 91 million dollar man?

    * Missed you Tommie, missed you Shabba. When we have them (and Chris) back, the superbowl will have to come through Chicago.

    Ugly but welcome win.

    Go Bears.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Pepper's did get hurt on one play.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You can't decline a false start by the Offense, the play just never happened and you repeat the down.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Child Support punched the ball out dude.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    When an offense is flagged for offsides, the D can't refuse it.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Nice recap Irish. I'm pretty sure you can't decline those holding calls and take the down; that's just the rule. They should change it so that if that happens in goal line situations; you add 5 yards to the first down mark. Seems unfair that they got 3 first downs basically.

    IMO that pick was just a bad throw by Jay. It was 15 yards ahead of Olsen. I don't think Jay saw the safety over the top. He probably thought it was a safe throw; saying if Olsen can't catch up to it at least I'll throw it away. I know Martz's O is based on timing routes, but that looked like Jay's fault to me.

    Messrs brrssss

  • In reply to Crowned:

    That penalty idea is really good.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    That's it - change the rule sp they can add on 5 yards. It makes no sense, they could sit there getting penalised all day and it makes no odds.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Our D deserves alot of credit but.... When you consider how much time the Bears D spent on the field, holding the Packers to 17 pts was nothing short of miraculous. There was a 10 1/2 min disparity on time of possession and what stood out to me was when the D allowed the Fudgers to drive down the field for a score on the very next series after Hester returned the punt for the TD. We could have put the game away right then but the D was gassed and I had the sense that the Fudgers would score there. We will not be able to count on KR's like that all season and the Bears MUST find their running game. If only so our opponents respect it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    We need bigger O-lineman, can it be that simple? Everyone else's D-linemen seem a lot bigger than our D-linemen. I may change my Santa letter- from a big WR to a big fat D-tackle.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Cheeeeeeeeeesy????? Suckatansky?????? Fartland Badger???????? Where ARE youuuuuu?????

    (crickets)

    Maybe they had a collective dairy induced infarction. We can only hope.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Crickets.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Actually quite a few teams do run both 3-4 and 4-3 fronts in what's typically called a "hybrid" 3-4 front. Seattle with Pete Carroll is the latest to do so.

    But it all comes down to personnel and scheme. These 3-4 fronts are not your traditional 2-gap 3-4s, they are primarily 1-gap 3-4s that have very different assignments and responsibilities. Also, hybrids require very versatile players (often called "jokers") that can play multiple positions and disguise their responsibilities.

    Depending on your scheme, you look for very specific traits for your each position on the DL and even individual LBs. For example, the under-tackle 4-3 needs different skills than a 2-gap 3-4. Heck, most teams running a 1-gap 3-4 probably couldn't run a good 2-gap 3-4 if they wanted to.

    Also, don't get too hung up on base formations. Green Bay is a 3-4 team, but they've spent less than 20 snaps this season (out of over 150 snaps) in a 3-4 formation. Against the Bears I think something like 45 of 48 snaps they were in a nickel or dime.

    BTW, Z has it right -- you can't decline procedural penalties, as the refs never let the play continue/finish.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    My bad on that rule, always wondered about that.

    The Packers might spend 83% of their time in Nickel or whatever but it's still three down linemen - you might technically be in a 3-3 if it's nickel, but there must be times when say Marinelli would like to go to a three man front to deal with a particular situation a team was presenting (without running the whole 3-4 defense). What I mean is, teams tend to present all of their defensive packages using either three down linemen, or four down linemen, but never the twain shall meet. Why? It seems too easy to give in and say that "well there's hundreds of different assignment combinations, and it depends on whether or not it's a 1 gap or a 2 gap responsibility yada yada..." Technically, yes, there are. But sometimes you might just want three down linemen even though you're normally a 4-3 defense because a certain running back is operating in a certain scheme. The only way you can see of stopping it is to put in the big fat guy right over the center and bookend him with two big fast ends, utilising your roster of linebackers to better effect in stopping this unstoppable force that's being running up and down the field all day. This is football, we're not landing anyone on the moon here. Point at he field and say to the linemen "Go kill. Stop run!", show the linebackers a photo of the RB and repeat. Shouldn't defenses be able to allow for that occasionally? Do we need to contact a national think tank in order to take a linemen off the field or ask him to stand up for a few plays?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Actually teams do do this. The Bears under Rivera, Babich, Smith, and Marinelli have used 3 man fronts -- generally in passing situations.

    Also Green Bay and other 3-4 fronts will employ 4 or 5 men as well as 2 and even 1 (that's the "psycho" front Gruden kept mentioning last night) on the line in their nickel.

    Only very old defenses stuck hard and fast to fixed lineman alignments in all situations. Number of linemen (down or not) in modern defenses are fluid.

    But some coaches are much more fluid than others. The obvious advantage is flexibility to adjust to many offenses/situations/specific star players, but the biggest drawback is complexity,
    confusion, less practice reps for each package, greater likelihood for a mistake/breakdown, and just generally not being good enough at your core plays.

    Belichick is the epitome of play any and all formations that work, and when he has the right personnel you can see how many problems he can cause an offense. But you also see what happens when his personnel just isn't quite good enough -- they can fall apart. Capers is another one of the flexible types. But there aren't many coaches that are good at mixing, teaching, and coaching top shelf performance a multiple front game.

    Most D coaches believe in having a core set that you are really good at, mixing in a few change-ups, and finally adding several specific packages to deal with certain situations.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    BTW, GB's base nickel is 4-2-5 as I understand, not 3-3-5. The "psycho" look they brought out a few times last night is 1-5-5 or 1-4-6.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Soccer formations!

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Game thoughts:

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dez was a fullback on one play and rolled out and caught the ball. I don't get how we hurt him. He just dropped a catchable yet bad pass ball.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    +1. Dez catches that ball with more reps. He's just wiping the rust off. Had a nice 13 yarder for a first down on a catch out of the backfield. GP- Why don't you like Dez at that FB spot? He can catch.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    +1. Dez catches that TD with a few more reps. He's just wiping the rust off; hasn't got much playing time yet. Had a nice +10 yarder on that grab out of the backfield. GP-why not Dez at FB? He can catch.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I agree with Bears85 here. Dez showed he can lead block in the PS. He caught a swing out pass, did ok. I'm not thrilled that he's playing FB, I'd love if we could trade Butter for a decent FB that can catch.

    I hate to say it, because I know I'll get tomato cans thrown at me, but the Saints picked up Jason McKie and seem happy with him. That turned out to be a mistake to let him go.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    McKie couldn't get a yard when we needed it or blast holes for us. We need a punishing FB if we are going to use a roster spot on it.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Remember that FB guy on Hard Knocks for the Jets ? Chris Pressley? He seemed like a baller, a good guy and useful on special teams. He's on the Bucs squad now, but we need to get a guy like that. 5'11 260. Pick up the phone Jerry.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, we have two fucking FBs... they just both got hurt. The samoan sangwich will be back next year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Definitely Superbowl year, just in time :o)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    RT @markschlereth: Enough with the Bears got lucky! There is a reason for 18 penalties. When u can't block them you hold and when you can't cover u commit PI

    seriously? wow....dare i say, i like this guy now? fuck no....still hate him (well his TV persona anyways)

  • In reply to MB30SD:
  • In reply to czheng:

    Monday night a normal QB would have been murdered. Rodgers has eyes in the back of his head, has he got the OC in his ear going "Jump left! Wriggle! Shimmy! Moonwalk! Slip right!" ?

    Throw Tommie back into the equation and Manning gets abused next week. O'Hara might be out again ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Count me with you and GP on Bennett. You've heard me say it before - I like him.

    On the commentary... there really is nothing to say other than the Mute button is the best one on your remote control.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    That story seems made up by a desperate blogger who wants some attention. No source is cited.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    click the radio interview from "The Score." gotta have some teeth to it if it's on a radio station (b/c "slander" is a very real term). and a few of the beat writers tweeted Rosenhaus was at the game yesterday.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Or picking the Pack to go perfect, Al.... bada-BOOM!

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    I'm guessing most of this was covered in the previous thread but I'm not going to wade through 600+ posts.

    Watched the game at a bar with the sound off. YEAH! Tommie and Aroma de-activated. I agree with one of those decisions. Really picked the wrong guy to cut to save salary. Cutler was brutal last night but made enough throws to win it. The OL was as bad as Cutler in the first half.

    If any Fudgies come on here crying about penalties they're delusional. I saw their OL blatantly holding at least a half dozen times that weren't called. Their entire team was crazy undisciplined last night. Their coach was crying on the sidelines on the PI call late in the game. WTF? The Rook totally mugged the receiver. It doesn't get more obvious than that. Of course I'm biased but the roughing penalty on Melton looked pretty lame at full speed. What was with the ESPN broadcast last night? Was instant replay down? There were a ton of big plays they didn't replay last night.

    Since the sound was down did I miss the part where the entire ESPN staff went down to Rodgers after the game and gave him a game ball?

    Gotta give Tice some credit for making adjustments at half time. No sacks in the second half. Too bad the OL starts out so bad every game.

    It was obvious the Bears were not going to let Mathews dominate them. Other people stepped up for the Fudgies but Mathews did almost nothing last night. Too bad our DL can't step up to help out Julius. I swear the Fudgies held him on almost every snap.

    I was disappointed Robbie missed the first FG but came through when it counted. Brad was the difference last night. Their kicker out kicked the coverage twice last night and Devin had great returns on both of them. It reminded me of that bonehead Saurbrun.

    Great win last night but we have to play better if we want to be a top team in the NFC.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Melton was being asked to defy the laws of physics on that call, wasn't possible to pull out of that. Make him a FB by the way ... or pick one up - HEY JERRY!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We have one Irish. His name is Dez and he made an appearance last night. Nice screen catch out the back feild for a first down. He would have caught that 4th and 1 td if he had gotten more reps in the first two games. Martz made the exact right call scematically on that play; just wasn't executed by the players.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Cutler took the blame for the throw on the goal line.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Not the best pass, but catchable. Mostly on Jay, but alsosome on Dez IMO

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Too bad Mike martz can't find a way to use a tight end, eh?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert, great posts. Rumor is, the Bears are still trying to trade Olsen for a 5th rounder because he will neve fit in Martz's system

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17023/packers-couldnt-handle-their-hype

    even though Seifert is an idiot, this shit is still funny

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    And for the record, Zombo's illegal hit on Cutler didn't nullify an interception, it caused the interception and it didn't count because the dirt bag Fudger intentionally gave Cutler a cheap shot.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Very true. I wish the announcers would have had the b***s to say that last night!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Lovie's lesson is: Shut the fuck up, keep your hands in your pockets and listen to what Martz, Tice, and to a lesser extent, Marinara want to do. Keep doing that and we'll be much better off.

    Remember Trac, that the D did what they did last night against rodgers and the sweethearts picked to win the big show this year. Their oline injuries turned out not to do anything for us. I think they did a damn fine job given that incredibly dangerous (and very douchey) Offense... but, will stick to my guns that we very quickly need to:

    * Find a stud opposite Pep that can start getting big, multiple sacks every game. That will soften the focus on Pep and leave his side much more open

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +10 MB. Couldn't agree with you more.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Attention, Olson-haters: "Shush!"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    +1 Al. He blocked pretty well too last night. Anyone want to trade him for a 2nd rounder now?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Yes. Draft a bitchin safety or a guard, or Brandon Marshall II. Promote Mr. 6'7 and let the jump balls rain.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Olsen was responsible for the one official interception. He was supposed to be in the back of that endzone, this is a timing offense and he wasn't there. Know they playbook. If receiving is all he's going to do then so be it. But get the #$%@ playbook down girly Thor ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OK, I'm reposting this from the Sunday Football Thread, Go Lions! cuz i fell like freakin Nastrodamus now:

    Even IF the bears do win, the pundits will simply spin it how GB lost the game. The "experts" will point out how GreenBay turned it over too much, and not say that the Bears forced the Turnovers. They'll remark how the GB run game was ineffective, and not that the Bears stuffed the run. They will observe how the GB secondary really is getting old, and not how the Bears WR blew past them. They'll say that GB played horrible on Special Teams, and not how our SP has been the best for a while. They'll give a little Kudos to Cutler for handling the pressure and not throwing interceptions, then in the same breath fart "But I still think the Packers will go the the SuperBowl"...

    And NOW, I may add to it...

    They'll argue how if it wasn't for all the penalties, and not the Bears FORCING them to hold so that Rodgers stays alive, or interference calls, so that our speedsters don't race past their rusty cbs, the Packers would've won.

    I'd rather be 3-0 and not have "won" any games all day, any day.

    GO BEARS!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I said last thread you had called it.
    Can you give me some tips on next weeks games?
    MBHP's daughter needs a new pair of shoes.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I think Giants this week will be tougher than most "experts" will admit. Vegas still has the Bears at underdogs - I don't remember the last time an undefeated team was an underdog...Giants are a bit of a wild card though. They're like a cornered animal - either they fold or fight to the bitter end - no one can really say.

    HOWEVER, I do think that the Giants are gonna try running it down our throats to try to reestablish their "toughness" and "discipline" - which only works to our strength.

    I had the same inkling about GB, that they were going to play more coverage with some blitz, and that's exactly what they did - and why Cutler struggled. I saw a graph that showed when Cutler goes against 5dbs, his qb rating is in the 30s! yikes!
    But I'll go more in depth when the "giants thread" opens...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    They run it, they lose. Badly. They pass it, Manning dies. If we can beat GB, we can kick the ever-loving shit out of the Giants.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Media spin. Isn't the Bears winning exactly equivalent to the Packers losing? You say to-may-toe I say to-mah-toe ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "I'm still convinced the Packers are the class of the NFC North and their dominance will show over the course of a 16-game season. But Green Bay self-destructed in so many ways against the Bears, and maybe getting this kind of early season wake-up call will wind up ensuring that overconfidence doesn't seep into the Packers' locker room."

    What a cunt.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    :o)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Will Lovie ever learn to take the points? In that goal line situation when we were down 14-17, I thought we should have tied the game with a field goal there. If it didn't work against the Lions, it won't against the Packers. How about trying a QB sneak in those inches situations. Jay is a big dude. I like the confidence; but that can quickly turn into arrogance that can catch up with a team and take Ws away.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    The ball hit Clark in the hands, right in both hands.. not fingertips... palms. Yes it was a little behind him, but the play was the right call, the situation was there, and the pass was catchable. Dez makes that grab and noone questions it, that means it is on the player.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    At that spot in the game, I would have tied it with a field goal. I agree Martz called the right one up, but if I'm head coach I take the 3 points there. If they continue to swing and miss on these 4th and goal line situations, it will cost them a game or two.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    And at the end of the year that's the difference between being in the playoffs or not, being at home or not. Because your HC was a ducheyne on 4th down macho man calls.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I seriously think that with vets like Urlacher, Briggs, Kreutz, and Dez that Haynesworth won't be a problem. He wasn't a problem with Tennessee, after all, who still would welcome him with open arms - he stepped on a dudes head over there, but Dlineman should be a little nasty (albeit, not cheap lol). I just think that Shanahan is trying to enforce his tyranny on the team, which is fine, but Haynesworth is his scapegoat....
    3rd rounder and maybe someone like Adams as comp sounds fair.

    Peppers-Haynesworth-Harris-Anderson...that would be a scary front 4...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Exnay on Haynesworth. #1 I would rather have our current crop playing with heart than the "Slave". Why would you want a cancer on our D when the guy is a proven tool. No thank you. #2 We will have a salary cap to deal with next year. Spend the money on the O-line and Defensive backfield.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    From what I've read and heard about T.Harris, it seems like he's on his way out, and Peppers can't do it alone - our D depends on pressure from the front 4 - we NEED another Dlineman that can pressure opposing qbs - Haynesworth is a cancer - to the Redskins...If I remember correctly, a lot of critics commented that Peppers was "lazy" "greedy" too, and look how that worked out. Sometimes some players just need to change teams...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    No offense 85 but I read the press clippings. Even Albert's peers think he's being unreasonable. What about the salary cap? No way the Bears will tie up that much money by signing him.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I thought in 2001 when the Bears came out of nowhere to make the playoffs at 13-3 that the league MVP should have been Brad Maynard and this year he's doing it again.

    I'd love to see our defense put some fear into an opposing QB for once and to not see so many open receivers, but their hard tackling, run stuffing, and limiting YAC has made Maynard's contributions to really be a huge factor in the 3-0 start.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    New Thread.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Dude wants to ball in a 4-3 jacuzzi instead of a 3-4 no-name line. He's nobody's bitch. That's cool. Let him run with the big bad Bears, shut his cake hole and walk the talk.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Swap Izzy for Anderson there and it's like the mid Eighties again ...

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Oh, we'd question it. If it's a TD it doesn't make it any less of a risky call. If you're a ways behind you go for the fourth downs maybe, but not three points behind. You take the points. We were lucky to beat Detroit and Green Bay based on two individual opportunities where we passed up points. Lovie has had two get out of jail free cards dealt to him.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    +1

    Crown, he said he'd make the same call every time. That worries me. Without knowing the situation, he said he'd do it *every* time. LDL. "Because I can"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I also predicted that T.Harris MUST step-up, or else, but I guess the coaches felt that way last week, apparently. Toeinana has a motor, so I'm more than happy with him, but who's gonna be our other DT - Harrison? Melton? Adams?

    Harrison is still a mystery - Melton seems more like a DE, and Adams is solid, but more of a nose tackle, and we need to put pressure on the qb...I've suggested this at the beginning of the season, but I think a 3rd rounder for Haynesworth, yes, Haynesworth, would be a good investment, ESP since we now have the real possibility of going deep into the playoffs -

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I want no part of Haynesworth here, hell Harris is hard for Lovie's soft love aproach to keep in check can you imagine how fat albert would walk all over him?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    8 ball Adams with Big Toe and Harris rotating to take pressure off his knee. I like Haynesworth but wouldn't we have to pick up his tab?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "I'm still not sure how the Bears have found their way to 3-0 for the first time since 2006, but I do know they're the last and most unlikely team to be perfect in the NFC."

    How do these tools get and keep their jobs making oblivious and obscenely incorrect statements like this.

    Okay well I can tell you how the Bears got to 3-0... they won their first 3 games. Are you with me so far? And how are they the most unlikely team in the entire NFC to remain undefeated.. umm St. Louis Rams... Detroit Lions... would be at least two teams more unlikely to be undefeated after 3 games given last year's performance. And if you were trying to qualify the statement so that they were the most unlikely of the 2-0 NFC teams to REMAIN unbeaten; then you should have worded it much better. But, who cares there are probably more people here posting on our blog than there are that actually read your trash.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Has he pounded it between the tackles though ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    BTW, Manofmoolah is not my idea of a great blocking TE. HE may be 280, but alot of it is that big spare tire around his gut. I dunno what Martz sees in this guy, but I'd rather see Kellen Davis out there blocking.

    Esp. when he lined up at FB, the Fridge hit the hole about 10x as fast as this guy. Slow slow slow feet.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I keep thinking that Manu money should have been used on Antrell Rolle.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I think Rolle wanted to go to NY all along Crown.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    IIRC, the whole Manu contract wouldn't have even paid for 1 year of Rolle?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I agree with about 90% of your post.

    Where we differ?

    Tommie Harris - there's an elite player in there somewhere. We need our coaches to find him, and coax him out.

    Lovie's Defense - The secondary is still suspect. I know Rodgers is amazing, and he can make plays other QBs don't, but think of Detroit or Dallas...they carved us up in the air.

    Just my 2 cents.

  • In reply to ThePreacher:

    The bend-but-don't-break BS is killing us. I'd rather see us give up the big play, rather we manned up and played some football than actually *allow* teams to slowly grind their way the length of the field, eating up the clock and giving them red zone shots for free.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    How could anyone complain about Cutler after Monday night. He was getting the cr## kicked out of him all game, and played like a warrior. Great game. Great night. Great win!!!

  • In reply to RDVacha:

    In fairness - and I love Cutty as much as anyone - it could be argued that on another night he throws five picks. Nick Collins alone had his hands on three. But a warrior yes, live by the sword, die by the sword.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Kellen would have caught that pass on 4 and goal!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd love to see more of KD period. What's not sexy about 6'7?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Great point Canada. Martz isn't the only one that can make changes during a game. Tice adjustments were impressive. He even got the monster J'Marcus Webb out there for a couple series.

  • Hey National Media, Fuck You!

    Bearss 3-0 and 1st Place in the NFC

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Fuck them in the face, coach.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    HAHAHAHHAHA... exactly!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    right in the face!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    And then u can piss into their ocular cavities! lol

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