Breaking Down the Packers, Volume I

Took a look at the Packers vs. Bills game today and there's very little to learn from it.  The Buffalo Bills are, without question, the worst team in the league.  There are levels of ineptitude in that organization that we rarely see in the NFL.  Looking at their schedule, I think Detroit beats them by a dozen.  And that might be their best remaining effort.

I do think the Packers are good, though.  Here's what else I think.

  • The Packers offensive line is still not great and there's currently a bit of turmoil over Chad Clifton's health issues at the left tackle spot.  (Bryan Bulaga is slated to start Monday night.)  The Bears can't afford to go sack-less (yes I know that's funny) against Aaron Rodgers and they shouldn't. 
  • Jermichael Finley is a tactical nightmare for the Bears.  He's big and fast and he'll own the deep middle of the field Monday night if the Bears, and their scheme, allow him.  The Bears have to hit him with a linebacker and possibly use D.J. Moore to cover him from the nickel corner slot.  This means they'll have to stop the run with the front seven.
  • With these two running games, I think we're going to see the most passes in the history of this rivalry.
  • Clay Matthews is a pretty spectacular athlete and the Bears will have to account for his whereabouts at all times.  Six sacks in two weeks is simply insane, albeit against two bad offensive lines.  Sad part is we might have the weakest offensive line he'll have faced thus far. 
  • While looking better in the second half against the Bills, Rodgers and his receivers are not entirely in rhythm.  When Rodgers gets off to slow starts, those slow starts tend to linger a bit.  If the Bears let him complete a ton of 8-to-10 yard slants early, as they are prone to do, he could end up with his first complete game of the season.
  • Tramon Williams, Morgan Burnett and Nick Collins are currently out there in the secondary with Charles Woodson.  The Eagles had success against them and the Bills never tried.  If the Bears offensive line gives Jay a few seconds, he'll be able to make serious plays down the field.  One thing's certain: no Bears team in recent memory has been more equipped for a shootout.

That should give the Bears enough to do this week.

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  • THE PACK IS BACK

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Hahahaha... what a douchebag. Hi Max.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Large Mold is that you?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    this is clever

  • .....AND THE BEARS STILL SUCK

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Ok what are we 5?

  • Flag on the play! False start. You don't count Cheesy. You never count. I'm claiming Firstness. So ... FIRST! In your face .....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish +100 FU Mold

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    irish you crazy bastard. lol

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Jeff, you've had some great posts this year. Thanks a million.
    I'm starting to buy into the Martz scheme. What a difference from wrong Turner. I think the Bears beat the Packers if we don't turn the ball over more than two times. We shut down the run and make them one dimensional just like we are. Half the Cowboys passing yards were in garbage time, and I don't think they got one rushing yard in the second half. I'm feeling very confident about the Pack game, one of the two most important games of the regular season.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    What worries me most about the Monday night game is this:

    It's a NIGHT game.

    Jay's diabetes get all wacky after 3pm.

    Someone get this guy a damn Snickers bar and a glass of Tang.

    Other than that, I am quite sure we'll be adding another team to the "overhyped" dimension.

    Get me some Shabba. Irish, I am with you with the Hester trade... can we package him for some McNeil action? I am not a Hester Hater, but I do realize his unnecessary existence. Jay loves a good OLine and big receivers - lets make the man happy.

    Bears 37 - Smegma 24

    Mark it down in Sharpie.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Snickers Bar? Lmao

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Tang?!

    LOL.

    Do they still make that stuff? Used to drink it when I was a kid.
    And no, funny guys, I don't mean the STONE AGE or the MIDDLE AGES!

    Bugs Bunny Ad: "Tang, gang. It's TANGERIFFIC!"

    Anyone for some BOSCO?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al...Bosco Love bosco!!! remember it also as a kid!
    http://www.boscoworld.com/

    have none here in NM!! damn did find that you Al have in Fry's Stores!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Tang!!! you can buy it on Amazon? wow not sure I would buy it that way..have to go to the Museum to buy it now..LOL

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    How about some Ovaltine!!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA__2tKoIU

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I could NEVER get that stuff to dissolve! Always had flakes floating around in it.

    Kind of like this blog has Mad Max and his ilk floating about.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Wow... on a roll, Al. Perhaps we should have a defunct product thread as inspiration for you.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Suckatansky = Jon Hughes?
    Big Cheesy = the other Brother?
    #16 = Jeff?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh snap!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The Chargers are reporting they want a 2nd and a 3rd round pick for V-Jack now. If you're the Bears, don't you at least try and throw a crazy offer at them, just so we can push the negotiations to the 4pm deadline, only to back-out at the last minute so the Queens don't get him? Is he worth the asking price knowing the draft success that Angelo Inc. has had around here the latter part of the last decade? I'm thinking yes!?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    No Joseph, we need to use our top 5 draft picks on o-line, DB's and LB's.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac, is right, but we need LB's? I was thinking more of DE and DT.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Probably all of the above 85. Tina and Urlarcher aren't going to be around for ever. Not sure at what time during a LB's career does the coaching staff replenish.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Spot on Trac. Thing is we need to use a high first rounder on drafting a MLB and may have to trade up. Having an awesome MLB is kind of what we're known for and I'd hate to see that change. I don't know about you boys, but watching Hairstyle Hillenmeyer in the mike was soul destroying for me ...

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    When do we sign Martz to a longer deal?

    After we are 12-4 or something?

    Seriously, if he gets Jay to 4000 and 32 touchdowns, don't we sign him to a longer deal?

    Instead of him slipping away? The same for Mike Tice.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Slipping away?

    Martz has a bit of a rep in the NFL. I doubt the line will queue to make him a HC anytime soon. He was meant to be an OC, I hope he stays that.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think if we did let Lovie go, it would be hard for Martz to accept another Head Coach. We would pretty much have to bring in a Defensive Coach.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Talking fantasy football. anyone wanna trade me a RB for Brett Farve?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I'll give you Wille Gallimore ....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    +1

  • In reply to gpldan:

    the bears will win 31-28 and be 3-0 the pack is not all that

  • In reply to richardware:

    Juice man, I thought you were looking for the real killers.

  • In reply to richardware:

    Michael, I have to say you bring a lot of good points to the blog. Glad to have you aboard. I've always found the best way to handle trolls is ignore them. All they really want is attention.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    You know you live in Green Bay if:

    1. You think loading the dishwasher means getting your wife drunk.

    2. Your toilet paper has page numbers on it.

    3. You can't marry your sweetheart because there is a law against it.

    4. One of your kids was born on a pool table.

    5. The bluebook value of your truck varies, depending on how much gas is in it.

    Monday night is looming gentlemen!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    5/5 for a smack rating of 125.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Hey Cheesedick, How are you feelin about your pass D and running game? Seems like two glaring holes; just like your genetalia.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Crown!!! Lol that literally made me laugh out loud

  • In reply to Crowned:

    The pass defense is ranked 3rd in the league right now.

    The running game is ranked 14th..... the bears are 28th.

    Fucking. Moron.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I am pretty sure the Bear's are number one in rushing D.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Ah yes, Crown. Tee hee.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    HOly shit you have been drinking way too much kool-aid

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I'd sign a wide receiver first. At least 6'4 and looks like he's done time.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    AJ Smith is playing hardball with Jackson and he's trying to make it almost impossible for anyone to sign him. Someone will have to be royally buggered in order to work out a deal.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Joe i'm not gonna tel you again....stop it.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    :^(

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Doc, that was an epic story about the Bear eating the stink cheese! Hopefully, its a sign of 3 and 0.

    Aaron Rogers has to prove he is not just a fanstasy stud; but a guy that can win the big games. While he is physically talented, I don't think he has the makeup of a winner. (See the Cardinals playoff game last year-you gotta hold onto the ball when you get sacked big guy).

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    hahahahahaha. THAT shit was funny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i will fucking turn this car around young man

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Agree trac, personally I think he should be one or the other.

    Hey Cheesy and Max, you can come on here and be tools all you want, but there's truth in these words no matter how you cut it:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/16718/how-i-see-it-nfc-north-stock-watch-27

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like the comments section that breaks into a fight about Clayface being a juicer.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What's the over/under on Cedric fighting a cop or getting cuffed buying Pakistani black? I figure he makes it through the season.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cheese, you don't even live in Wisconsin? C'mon man. Rock, please tell me you don't live in Wisconsin either. That would be too perfect.
    The only semi acceptable way to be that big of a packer nerd is to actually to be born and raised in Wisconsin. It is absolutely unnacceptable for Cheese and Suck to spew anything Packer related and to directly or indirectly support the utter lunacy of wearing your hunting gear to a fucking football game or wearing an oversized slice of what looks to be some sort of Swiss/Limburger cheese hybrid on your head IF YOU ARE NOT EVEN FROM GREEN BAY OR WISCONSIN!! Holy shit cheese, wtf is going on here?

    Please tell me you have some Scandanavian beast women cousins or nuclear family back in the shit hole, one Kroger town that is Green Bay. Please? Tell me that and i won't stab myself with my pen in disbelief.

    The only thing worse than a Packer fan is one that is not even from Green Bay. I want you to take a picture of yourself in a Claymaker t-shirt standing on the beach in California you poor mixed up son of a bitch. Then post it on the site because i just don't believe it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It makes complete sense that this website features Packers gold

    http://www.largeandlovely.com/

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    i will let it be known though that Clay Matthews is a bad ass cracker. His dad, uncle, grandpa, brothers are all blessed football miracles. I still have an old Bruce Matthews football card. His head was enormous. I love that family.

    He will be neutralized by Mad Martz though. Blitz all your want Clay, we'll just dump a ton of short passes into the area that you just quickly and aggressively vacated. Clay vs Pep, who will kill the QB first?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny, I had to be honest and say that you've seriously stepped up your game this season. In fact, so far you are getting my most improved call. Brilliant!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    have

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Good Lord, Big QUEASY, I can't believe you're talking all this shit and you're from SANTA CRUZ.....i'll bet you're gayer than that fruit loop Bears85sweetness

  • In reply to jeremy:

    dude i don't know what you are talking about, that guy has a sweet picture

  • In reply to jeremy:

    Fres man, what's up with that?

    '85 is a good kid and provides a lot of value (unlike the packer trolls), I have to agree with Cheese here. Easy on smacking down our own guys man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    How did I become gay? lol Thanks for the backup MB

    Dude I was banging Ms. Supergirl that night and I am still hittin it so, I think you got the wrong bear lol

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2706859&id=758696771&ref=fbx_album

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    dude that wasnt me. someone hacked my shit. i swear dude i would neva talk on a fellow bear fan

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    yo wtf someone stole my handle? wtf

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    How you know that wasnt me is cause i wouldnt be gay enough to say some shit like BIG QUESY, and also shit man my grammar aint that good.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Best start logging out or changing those passwords. Or.. could it be.. your the one on this blog that is pretending to be the Packer fans?!! lol jp

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    haha aww hell no, wouldnt even waste my time. im gonna ignore those fuckers for now on

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    change your password man.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Fresno, nobody hacked your account -- it's this stupid ChicagoNOW comment system.

    Notice the profile linked to the fake Fresno (click on or hover over his pic/name) is: http://www.chicagonow.com/profiles/jeremy

    The real Fresno is: http://www.chicagonow.com/profiles/Grizzly559

    The problem with this idiotic system is that you can post with any name, and you can't easily tell which profile actually posted. He just copied your pic, and used your name while posting....

  • In reply to 750mL:

    fucking A man that sucks. 85sweetness thinks i was trashing him.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Wow, Sorry Fresno, that is really weird.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Gotta love the tat down his left arm, like he's sporting the big guns.

    http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/alomeli32/Packers/DSC_0018.jpg

    Dude, the big guns are in a rack in the window of your pickup. typical Pack fan.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    But you didn't realise that the invisible man was banging her at the time, Artoo. Damn, with your mother as a room-mate that is one scary crazy room mang ... bada - bing !

  • In reply to jeremy:

    who the fuck is this? mothafucka hacking my shit. I know that aint me cause i dont use grammaer like that. FAKE!

  • In reply to jeremy:

    Anyone up for heading over here? I say we invade, posing as typical Pack heffers. We express our doubts that the Pack can really pull it off, and post unconfirmed reports that Rodgers is into watersports.

    http://www.packerforum.com/f8/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    fuck it im down

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Pack wimmin:

    They start out all cute and tasty like this (warning: dork sandwich):

    http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/alomeli32/Packers/DSC_07792.jpg

    5 years and 80 tailgaters later, they morph into this:

    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/longtimefan/100_6612.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Stoooop. don't sink to that level. I always think it will be fun to feed the trolls, but then 2-3 days in I wish I hadn't. Dave is right. I will abstain.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fck it. I've got time to kill. Get myself registered here ...

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I'm thinking Al Pacino at the end of Scarface, with his face covered in powder ....

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hey look who I found:

    Fucktansky and the Big Mold: and the Packer Theme
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRkgq4QTR9Q&feature=related

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Wow! It looks JUST LIKE Max!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    FRY'S is a subsidiary of KROGER.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    USA Today has the Fudger's giving 3 pts.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    "I hate Bosco,
    it's no good for me...
    My Mommy puts it in my milk,
    to try to poison me."

    Not exactly the *real* words to that jingle, but the ones *I* remember...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    "...but I fooled mommy, I put it in her tea,

    now I have no mommy to try and poison me!"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    lol! Yeah, that was it all right!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I went to the Space Museum in DC, and that's the last place I saw Tang. The company failed even with moon astronauts hawking it.

    That's because it tasted like orange sand with a tiny bit of sugar in it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Tiny bit GP? I think that whole 'sand' thing WAS sugar. Yeah, feed that to kids, great idea.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The Astronauts AND Bugs Bunny hawking it!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Cutler, as somebody pointed out, tends not to fare as well at night under the lights.

    There are a couple of Bears we need to step up big on Monday night, and I'm not sure about them.

    1. Butter. He cannot be soft. My verdict on this guy is still out. He's in better shape above the waist than he's probably ever been, but his leg strength just isn't there, his technique has Sapp calling him out and he applied no pressure to Romo to speak of. In fact, Toeina is outplaying him right now. And that's bad.

    2. Chris Harris. He needs to lay Donald Driver out, show us that big hit he was flirting with in DFW.

    The D has to stop the Pack at some point, we have to keep them under 30 to win. I have some faith in (shudder) 0-16 Maranara being able to devise a heavy nickel scheme with some good Child Support and Briggs blitzes disguised.

    3. Manofmoolah. I call him that because of his big fat contract he got to be the mega tight end that apparently Martz felt Dez was not. So, fine, but he played like shit as a chip blocker, looked much worse than Dez impersonating a FB and generally pissed me off. If we're going to control the clock against the Pack, then we gotta run on them, and Manofmoolah has to be out there finding Clayhead and run blocking him and picking up the blitz in the heavy protect rolling pockets that Martz favors.

    Everyone else I feel I know how they will perform. These three are the starting jokers in the deck and I don't. They could come up big, they could suck.

    Either way it is the big game of the year, and I will be rooting hard to shut the Packfuck duo up, because I'm sick of the vomit on the floor of this place. It smells like cheddar and it's disgusting to look at.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    would you like Harris or Lach to do something like this GP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUw13h9278E

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sorry, here's the HD vesion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94Y4juXhXg&feature=related

    Did that guy live?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In my opinion, that was a cheap shot. No need for that kind of play at all. It would be one thing if the guy he slammed was 275 lbs and had just tried to chop block McLain, then I could understand why someone would do that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Best part: End of video when crazy raider bitch yells "fuck yeah" even after the personal foul flag.

    Al Davis got a tiny boner in his track suit after that one. Raiders football.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That's what's been bothering me since the start of the season. We lay out all that moolah for our 14th TE, Manu, and where is he? I don't think I've heard his name called. Anyone?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I saw him line up as FB for one of the short yardage 3rd down rush plays...unfortunately Matt chose to dive up Kreutz' backside instead of just running up and over Manu as he lay gasping on the turf.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    FF - like the Vegas line, has Shabba as the Bears wideout with the most potential on Monday night.

    http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/2010/weeklycheatsheets.cfm?player_pos=WR

    Maybe they know shit I don't (probable) but I'm not sure Shabba even plays much on Monday. I think Martz is happy with the speed on the outside and Cutler stretching everything out. I expect Bennett back in the 3 slot, and he'll be backed up by Scrappy. Shabba may come in to spell Knox at the 2, but against the Pack I predict we'll try and outrun what is supposedly a slow secondary.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    When Hester and Knox are done bumping into each other and forgetting their playbook, Cutler will *demand* Shabba be sent in. I've got a certain team from Chicago covering a 40 point spread and Cutler passing for 800 yards. National security will be raised to Defcon 2 until they realise it was the aftershock of Cutler's tenth pass to Dez in the back of the endzone. Sha - mone !

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Martz has been forced into running 5 wr sets because our o-line has been struggling. I don't think Manu has worked out yet primarily because of matchups. Wishful thinking I guess. I would hate to find out he's a bust.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    D.J. Moore could be the best cover nickle in the league (which he's clearly not) but when your giving up 8-9 inches to the guy you're covering you're in for a long afternoon.

    Lach and Pisa should be the ones to man up Finely.

  • In reply to soupbowlorbust:

    +1
    They need to go Hanson brothers on his shit ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    hey trac....you see the line now? lol...start crying & get it over with

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I've got a 26 pt cushion FQ. My boys are gonna bring it. Ha ha ha. You left your best pts on the bench brother.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    By the way gentlemen (and Smegmas):

    They still slang the Tang in Omaha.

    And if Omaha has it, your 2bit or above town likely does too. You cab find it wherever Chocolate Soldier (southern Yoohoo), Dunkaroos, and the Orbits drink with the floating flavor balls are found.

    A box of which has been FedExed to Halas Hall.

    On to football... the last 2 teams we played had running threats until we shut em down. The Smegs don't have anything but a glorified waiver wire pickup.

    Will this affect the way our D attacks them? Does it even matter?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Everyone is remembering how Cutler struggled under those lights last year. Have we all forgotton the last performance at home against Minny, in 26 degree weather? Four TD passes was it?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    He guys, take a second and vote for Cutler for the FedEx Air Player of the Week.

    http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=players-air-and-ground

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Game Time. Bears v Cow Billies on NFL Network.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Had to love it when Buck & Aikman were talking about hard the Cowboy D doesn't give up 3rd and long JUST before Cutler drills Knox for 59 yards.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I re-watched the game the other night and rewound that part several times, mostly because of the play itself, but also in part because of that very comment. Hillarious, glad someone else noticed that.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    NFL REPLAY RIGHT NOW. BEAR GAME!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yeah he's not that clutch.....which would be a problem if we weren't playing Da Bears. The pack could beat the bears with rex grossman on the mound

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Hey Cheesy, honest question. Do the Pack have cheerleaders?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Is that a no big hoss? Oh that's right, because the best looking females in Wisconsin need to be milked three times a day.
    Best Regards,

    The Claymaker

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Actually I thought they didn't.....

    but they showed them on TV on sunday....so you are a moron

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    And I have lived in california my entire life. I don't think the Beach Boys ever wrote a song about girls from illinois. Fucktard.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    hahahahahaa... so you actually PICKED the packers as your team?!?!?!?! Holy shit cletus!!!

    Ohhh... A Californian huh? Well, if you lived somewhere decent in Cali you would have said so right? Just curious there Cheesy, which city?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Santa Cruz. Look it up. I'd ask you come and visit, but you'd probably have to sell your house just to get a hotel room for the week.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Nice pad Cheesy. Very romantic. But not what I was expecting when I flew out here.

    http://photos.igougo.com/images/p261324-Tijuana-TJ_Beach_shack.jpg

  • In reply to Joseph:

    that link says tijuana on it. moron

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Someones grumpy this afternoon.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Does santa cruz still have that guy who dresses up in pink and has pink teddy bears and shit all over him? i know you seen him. haha Santa Cruz is like the second gayest city in CA and has nothing but ex hippies walking around, all burnt out still living the 60's

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    You mean this guy?

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/san-jose/56267d1263338497-santa-cruz-sucks-pink-man.jpg

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Holy shit, that dude is frightening... but not as bad as some of the dirty, nasty white-dread, patchouli oil smelling, begging hippie burnouts. Nasty.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    dude alot of beach towns in CA have them.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Not the one's I've lived in here in SD Fres... cept for that stretch when I lived in OB - but that was more about being close to The Cliffs (surf spot(s)). Good times.

    SC is known for their hippie element man. Like a sandy version of the Haight. Yuck.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    what part of SD? My sister lives in OCEANSIDE and they got a bit of hippies walkin around.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Here you go Fres... something we've know for a long time here: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/226670-bears-in-a-quandary-with-hester?eref=fromSI

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Devin has been and will continue to be our starting Punt Returner.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think he averaged -5 yards last week.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    oh yea thats the guy. hahahahaha fuck man thats probaly BIG CHEESY!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I wish I was living there in the 60s. The pinnacle of the American empire. Free love, acid, dope, great bands, getting ready to land on the moon .... now this.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Oooooh, wooooow, Santa Cruz... soooo cooool. So basically you're either gay (this would be my guess), or a dirty fucking hippie. Lovely.

    And are you serious about the house thing? Why would you think SC is so high class

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Santa Cruz is nice. I go there a few times a year. Pretty sure I saw you when I was there. Are you the shit smelling bum that asked me for change while I was on the boardwalk?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Coach!!! Where you been man? Come back.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    DaCoach!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I personally like when the trolls come around, especially when they are a stereotype personified like Mayor McCheese

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    been binge drinking the cool-aid man.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Back just in time to see us fuck Aaron Rodgers in the face Coach....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man o man o man o motherfuckin' man....

    Andy Reid must be looking to go down in the record books along with McDaniels as the HCs who fucked up the greatest number of QB gifts. remember when he said he wouldn't trade mcNabb? Hey Andy, if you make another mistake on top of the mistake you're getting toasted for... that DOES NOT... NOT make it better.

    Everyone got lit up on this last lie. Week 2, all the FF blogs are like "don't give up on Kolb, he's back starting ASAP". You fucktards are listening to Raggedy Andy again, aren't you?

    because this week? this week reid is already fielding trade offers for him.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5604002&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

    Philly fan, you're a lout and a douche and usually a cheesehead sized fatty, but I feel for ya dude. We here in the Windy City have had QB hell for years. We don't even know how to react to Cutler really, we're still getting used to the idea of having a QB with talent.

    Now Reid is gonna torch Kolb on the heels of mcNabb, and go with Ron Mexico? How ironic that he's looking to deal Kolb to the Browns, home of the dawg pound.

    Fuck all. Lovie is mister flatline stonewall, but Reid just tells whopping whopping lies to everyone all the time, and that is worse.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    BIG CHEESY SANTA CRUZ? since your only 3hrs from me. How bout we meet up maybe halfway, around los banos on the I5, and i KICK THE LIVING DOG SHIT OUT OF YOU! ps bring every packer thing you have cause i will glady wipe my ass with it and then burn it and piss on the ashes!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Easy Tiger.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    No shit. No need to get all Glock 9 wif it.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Im done with this fuckin cheese dick retard. Somebody give me some news updates on our team please.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Los Banos? Congratulations, you just picked the only town shittier in california than Fresno.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Was that dude really bragging that he lives in Santa Cruz/ wow....hilarious.

    Cheesy, pop the collar on your polo, grab your oversized Gucci glasses and move along son. We dont have time for this nonsense. This is Chicago...home of the brave...

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    And since when is the Beach Boys song writing a measure of success. Those guys are terrible.

    Kanye West and Chris Martin 'Homecoming'. Now there's a song about a city worth a damn.

    "I met this girl (referring to chicago as a female) when I was 3 years old..

    and what I love is that she had so much soul, she said excuse me little homey I know you dont know me, but,

    My name is Windy and...I like to blow trees..."

  • In reply to Dmband:

    holy shit you are a fucking moron. i bet you have a fucking tweeter account

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    hhhhhaaaahhhaaa i just realized your name stands for "dave matthews band." You've got to be kidding me. You don't need anymore help insulting yourself

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Dude, Cheese. It's been fun going back and forth talking smack, but it's getting old. This is a Bears football blog.

    That said, are you ever going to add any value at all regarding football... at all? Seriously man. Either bring some valid points that we can all discuss or go away. I'm done playing. Either bring value or get ignored.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No, I vote for Cheesy to stay. It's Packer week dammit and if a troll want's to seek out our blog and talk his jib, well then, let him spew. I can take the nonsense, keeps me fresh. It's only fair if he gives us the link to his blog, not to troll because that's not my style, but to simply compare notes....I promise. What do say Sleezy? Pleeeaaaase!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Don't they have their own blog? Oh yeah, Packers fans have a difficult time putting three w's together.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Crown, they can't turn on a computer never mind actually use one. Computers are the Devil's work. And they think if they actually sit down near one that it can read their minds. I guess with the guilt of everything in their messed up heads it's just too much to take the risk ...

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I agree with jo here, we won't hear from cheesy for afew months after monday night.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Fact: as of now, Derrick Anderson has more yards passing than Arron Rodgers.

    Ouch?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Oh cheesy. You're so silly.

    Ive never been on twitter, facebook or myspace. Ive never even seen the websites.

    But the fact remains the Beach Boys suck. After all, they are responsible for Charles Manson! Seriously there music is terrible. A five year old could write better lyrics than that. They are the "Hanson" of there generation.

    Im not surprised of your hatred of the bears. Guys like you dont last very long in our city.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    oooooo gotta give you props on the Charles manson Dennis Wilson connection.

    the fact remains however, that your user name is dave matthews band.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I'm impressed that you've never visited social networking sites, DM. Seriously. Hats off.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    i'm officially done responding to anyone that doesn't bring value. SC, i fucking give you my word that i will abstain forever from making any comments. It would be like giving an alcoholic a drink or a small nagging child attention for bad behavior. I'm done. The simple solution to getting rid of the irrelevance is for the Bears to win the game and for some hard hits that have impact well beyond this game if you know what i mean.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    If you were from Fresno or San Deigo, we would probably like you a lot more...(shout out to MB and Fresno!)

  • In reply to Dmband:

    no, you'd probably like me more if I didn't come in here and break up your gigantic circle jerk.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Cheesedick, the library your at wants you to get off of there public computer because you reek of shit. So log off son.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    For example, honest question:

    Have you now, or ever, used your #4 Brett Favre jersey to masturbate with? Did you cry when Favre left? How did you feel when the best player in Franchise history played for your bitter rival? How did that make you feel?

    One serious note, I actually had someone bring into me a stock certificate from the Packers (you can buy "stock" but its not redeemable). Pretty cool actually, its a stock certificate in a frame for the Green Bay packers..

    I took a shit on it and gave it back to them.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    that actually made me laugh... in the real world.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Incredibly Cheesy - you'd absolutely be welcome if the majority of your posts didn't consist of :
    ....and the bears still suck

    Say something relevant, clever, profound, amusing or heartfelt. Just try to be better than you have been so far. Try to improve like Claymaker has improved. He didn't just sit there, he worked at it, practiced, earned his spot in this world. You are embarassing yourself right now but i feel that if you continue to apply yourself you will improve with time like a fine cheese-hat and boxed wine. The weapon of choice for any Danish-Finnish Laplander Packer scumbag looking to scrounge his way through a pair of mom jeans and flabby pannus in order to get to the putrid nether region of his favorite drinking buddy, (see Wife).

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    HOnestly, are you guys kidding me?? Clearly no one on this goddamn blog has their head screwed on right. You have all been drinking the kool-aid. How can you reason with someone who is on MIKE MARTZ's Jock? How many teams has he been with in the last 5 years? Jesus. Jay Cutler??????what is he, 28-30 lifetime? And most of that was when he had a go to reciever and a competent head coach. The only thing more volatile than his blood sugar is his accuracy/lack their of. GB picked him 6 times last year. Oh my God, Julius Peppers, so scary....he has ONE TACKLE. Everyone gets a boner because he injured some pussy foot second year who has already spent half of his young career on injured reserve. If Rodgers was gonna break, Jared Allen would have already broken him; Green Bay always picks studley QBs, and you know it...Jerry Angelo is a fucking loser and even you can't deny that..How many shitbag quarterbacks have disgraced soldier field since Mcmahon? You wanna know why all I bring is "THE BEARS STILL SUCK?" it's cause they do. They fucking suck. And you all knew it during the pre-season, but a bullshit victory over the NFL's worst franchise on your own shitty field - coupled with a deceiving performance over a reeling cowboys squad - has distracted you from that fact. Cutler sucks. He is badass, and I liked him before he was a bear, but the fact of the matter is he's just Rex grossman with a better fastball. Granted it's an improvement, but Rex grossman had an actually defense, not a bunch of has-been ass clowns 3-months away from collecting social security.
    Someone please tell me where chicago has the advantage? The bears' running game is the only one in the NFL that's shittier than the packers'.
    One of you turds keeps bringing up the fact that Green Bay's O-line gave up 50 sacks last year. around 40 of those were in the first 8 weeks, so apparently it hasn't been an issue since last october. Fucking. Moron. Don't even get me started on the bears O-line.......

    Is that what you wanted? for someone to wake you up and give you "something relevant?" Do you want me to run the X's and O's by you so you can't pretend any longer that the Bears have two feet to stand on? Clay Matthews is a fucking freak. He has been since he took the field last year. He's probably- definitely- on 'roids.....But he's playing on monday night so you are fucked. Jermichael Finley absolutely shits all over greg Olsen. Remember when you losers were psyched on that peice of garbage......... back before he actually started playing? Your special teams used to be the jewel of the league, now i'd take Jordy lead-foot Nelson over that has been Hester. What the fuck is he still doing in the NFL? He hasn't taken a return to the house probably since the superbowl. Congratulations, the bears finally got a QB that isn't COMPLETELY worthless. I know you guys are excited. Unfortunately the rest of the team has has turned into utter shit because jerry angelo throws all his money and draft picks at overrated free agents. I know you're all thanking the good lord for Dan Snyder, otherwise your shitbag team would have somehow found a way to throw $100 million that they don't have at Fat face-stomping Albert.

    I could go on and on but I think you get the point. Anyone who doesn't jerk off to 2004-2006 urlacher youtube videos can plainly understand that, Upon Further review.......

    THE BEARS STILL SUCK.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    How did you lose that last game in the playoffs?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The pass defense gave up 1500 yards, to a hall of fame quarterback, moron.

    You're going to blame the offensive line for a loss when the offense scored 45 points? you should be probably be bludgeoned to death for your cognitive disabilities.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Ok. Answer my question.

    How did you lose that game? If I remeber correctly, that Hall of Fame qb didn't win the game.

    Doesn't matter how well you did in the game, if you don't win then you suck.

    Look at the Cowboy's.Romo got almost 400 and still didn't win. Because forced turnovers and our offense didn't let Jay get killed.

    Your line gave it up in the end when it matters the most. Your line, thus, sucks.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    sorry, i was working late and just got a chance to see your next effort. This new post of yours definitely has more passion and more creativity but it is hard to take you seriously when you rip on Hester, who burned GB last year and will go down as one of the best Special Teams players ever to play, Peppers who has the ability to destroy Rodgers and who is one of the leaders in the league in sacks on a yearly basis , Martz who is widely regarded as one of the best offensive minds in pro football and Cutler who you actually kind of complimented in a weird passive aggressive way?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Cutler sucks? Again, sorry for the double post but his last 4 games he averaged ...

    QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int
    118.1 86 135 63.7 1198 299.5 8.9 13 2

    Rodger's last 4 games :

    QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int 102.0 71 109 65.1 915 228.8 8.4 6 2

    Cutler is the only QB in the NFL to have greater than a 100 rating his last 4 games (Rodgers had a 73 in week one against Philly)

    So how does he suck exactly ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Rodger's last 4 games :

    QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int
    102.0 71 109 65.1 915 228.8 8.4 6 2

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    80,000+ people (me included) who saw Dave play at wrigley this weekend would probably diasgree with you cheesy. just sayin...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/09/ca98cb238eabbf09c5f9721958fb8ecc/340x.jpg

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Yeah, and Millions of germans in 1939 would have told you that Hitler is awesome.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Socially and economically, Germany have never been better off, so from their perspective, he was. Just sayin' ...

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Matthews isn't that scary to me, every year there is some defensive guy that has a lot of sacks in the first couple-three games and then disappears. Odom last year... think he had 8 in the first 2, but anyhow Collins is what scares me about GB, man that guy is awesome. Here is the logical end though: on offense GB is basically the exact same team they were last year minus Ryan Grant, and on defense they are the same minus Al Harris and Jolley. Defensively, we added Peppers, Chris Harris, and get 54 back. Offensively, we are way better with Martz.
    For me I am just hoping we only beat them by 10-14 points, because if we beat them by 24+ people will really start jumping on the Bears bandwagon and you know how well our team plays when there are actual expectations.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    How has C. Woodson looked this year? I keep waiting for him to get old and he just keeps playing really really well. I was a big fan back in the day.

    Can we take advantage of speed with him in a one on one situation? I

  • In reply to Dmband:

    They like to stick woodson in a nickel type situation and put him on Olsen... at least that what they did last season.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Johnny Waffle-

    Seriously dude. I read that post like 5 times and laughed progressively harder each time.

    You're a poet...but not the lame kind....like the evil genius kind.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Wasn't he the one Knox burned on that deep pass on the first game last year?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Yes... 3 plays before cutler threw a pick to a D tackle

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Got to admit.. that was dumb mistake

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Jolley is so fucking fat it's hard to avoid his gravitational pull.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    HOnestly, are you guys kidding me?? Clearly no one on this goddamn blog has their head screwed on right. You have all been drinking the kool-aid. How can you reason with someone who is on MIKE MARTZ's Jock? How many teams has he been with in the last 5 years? Jesus. Jay Cutler??????what is he, 28-30 lifetime? And most of that was when he had a go to reciever and a competent head coach. The only thing more volatile than his blood sugar is his accuracy/lack their of. GB picked him 6 times last year. Oh my God, Julius Peppers, so scary....he has ONE TACKLE. Everyone gets a boner because he injured some pussy foot second year who has already spent half of his young career on injured reserve. If Rodgers was gonna break, Jared Allen would have already broken him; Green Bay always picks studley QBs, and you know it...Jerry Angelo is a fucking loser and even you can't deny that..How many shitbag quarterbacks have disgraced soldier field since Mcmahon? You wanna know why all I bring is "THE BEARS STILL SUCK?" it's cause they do. They fucking suck. And you all knew it during the pre-season, but a bullshit victory over the NFL's worst franchise on your own shitty field - coupled with a deceiving performance over a reeling cowboys squad - has distracted you from that fact. Cutler sucks. He is badass, and I liked him before he was a bear, but the fact of the matter is he's just Rex grossman with a better fastball. Granted it's an improvement, but Rex grossman had an actually defense, not a bunch of has-been ass clowns 3-months away from collecting social security.
    Someone please tell me where chicago has the advantage? The bears' running game is the only one in the NFL that's shittier than the packers'.
    One of you turds keeps bringing up the fact that Green Bay's O-line gave up 50 sacks last year. around 40 of those were in the first 8 weeks, so apparently it hasn't been an issue since last october. Fucking. Moron. Don't even get me started on the bears O-line.......

    Is that what you wanted? for someone to wake you up and give you "something relevant?" Do you want me to run the X's and O's by you so you can't pretend any longer that the Bears have two feet to stand on? Clay Matthews is a fucking freak. He has been since he took the field last year. He's probably- definitely- on 'roids.....But he's playing on monday night so you are fucked. Jermichael Finley absolutely shits all over greg Olsen. Remember when you losers were psyched on that peice of garbage......... back before he actually started playing? Your special teams used to be the jewel of the league, now i'd take Jordy lead-foot Nelson over that has been Hester. What the fuck is he still doing in the NFL? He hasn't taken a return to the house probably since the superbowl. Congratulations, the bears finally got a QB that isn't COMPLETELY worthless. I know you guys are excited. Unfortunately the rest of the team has has turned into utter shit because jerry angelo throws all his money and draft picks at overrated free agents. I know you're all thanking the good lord for Dan Snyder, otherwise your shitbag team would have somehow found a way to throw $100 million that they don't have at Fat face-stomping Albert.

    I could go on and on but I think you get the point. Anyone who doesn't jerk off to 2004-2006 urlacher youtube videos can plainly understand that, Upon Further review.......

    THE BEARS STILL SUCK.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    FAIL^

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Bud Light! Woo hoo!

    http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a459/gbpack12_2_85/IMG_0595.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Cheese Puff:

    Lay off the cheddar pal. It'll kill ya

    http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8941/dsc00302xo.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    SI power rankings out, and in all honesty i dont know how they even think half these teams are better than us.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/09/22/power.rankings.1/index.html?eref=sihp

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Oh my God, someone is using reason in their analysis and prognostications! God forbid.

    "Hail, hail the 2-0 Bears! It took a horrendous NFL rule and an imploding Cowboys team to help get Chicago to 2-0, but the Bears deserve credit for playing tough and smart in Dallas."

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2010-09/bears-offense/story/week-3-matchup-green-bay-packers-at-chicago-bears

    another break down.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Your oline might have been good after the first 8 weeks but it cost you in the end didn't it?

    I remember Rodger's eating a helmet and giving the ball up because why? You didn't block.

    Mike Martz has brought Offenses up from dead last to either top 5 or top 10.

    Jay Cutler, has been rocking it and your qb hasn't. Get over it.

    We are not saying we are beastly, we are saying that we are good and if you let us, we will kick you ass.

    Rodger's is good if he has the time and he won't.

    Cutler is good when he has the time and he won't.

    Hester has had returns, they have been called back.

    You are so right about Jerry.

    The Bear's will bring it Monday to your stadium. I would be prepared because I think Mr. Urlacher wants to hit Rodger's just right this time, so he can get back him from last year.

    By the way, Pepper's gets doubled. Kinda hard to get past that when all your Clay does is line up and beats the guy.

    You can do that in a 3-4. Let's see how much he does when Jay throws the ball everywhere and to the right jerseys.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The game is at soldier field.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Thanks Big Cheesy. Totally forgot about that.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Even better. Our fans get to smell your blood.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Chink in the armor? From Fudgerforum.com :

    [ What is wrong with Aaron Rodgers? Rust or something more?

    Now, I love Aaron Rodgers, he is amazing, but until the second half of the bills game, where was the aaron rodgers that can take us to the superbowl at? He has made errant throws that he simply never makes. After the bills game, he said that there were times he could not throw a spiral. For a guy many feel has the tightest spiral in the nfl, this is just mind boggling to me. And he couldn't make the lambeau leap after that run. He told his teammates he was too tired but I dunno... Do you think that its possible there is some kind of injury or something tweaked that we just dont know about? Now to be fair, I know last year he started out slow too. And on the other hand, you could say the whole offense wasn't playing great until the second half of the bills game (Jermichael hadn't got involved as much as he should be, James Jones had run some sloppy routes) I just wanted the opinion of my fellow packer fans on how they felt. ]

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    For those wondering about DA in the doghouse, here's an interesting tidbit -- http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mulligan/2734832,CST-SPT-mully22.article

    Also some interesting info on Hester, and his work ethic. For all the criticisms put on him, there's no doubt this dude just gets better and better.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    He is scared to take a hit over the middle.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Excellent article. Disagree with the final assessment and score obviously - no way the Pack establish any kind of run game against us. Their fans don't think their backup up is all that, and we have the #1 run-stoppers in the business. Again.

    The closer we get to the game the more confident I feel about our chances.

    * Rodgers isn't firing on all cylinders and doesn't do well against the Cover 2.

    * Even if they *had* a running game, the NFL's #1 crew would shut it down.

    * We have the hottest QB in the NFL ... and the fastest receivers.

    * They have an O-line that won't stop Rodgers from getting Peppered.

    * We're the Chicago Bears !

  • In reply to 750mL:

    ha ha ha he he ....looks like da bears fans are doing a little chest thumping after their two game winning streak. chicago was out played by detroit. everyone knows detroit was robbed of a touchdown. dallas is on a downward spiral and played a sub-par game against an inferior team. time for reality to set in, chicago, you will be emBEARassed monday night.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/multimediapopup.asp?mm_file_id=2039&play_clip=Y&rn=19

    this should get your blood pumping

  • In reply to Dmband:

    So GB were a crappy no-run-game team last year and now they haven't got their RB? Ouch. Forte is healthy and we have Chester Taylor too ? ouch. Their defensive Roster got worse, ours got appreciably better with Peppers, Urlacher and Pisa back on board. Are their aged defensive backs able to keep up with Knox and Hester, and also able to deal with not one, but three pass-catching TEs? Throw in Shabba for good measure with Forte and Taylor out of the backfield and you're going to need two defnsive units to deal with all of that. Does the hottest QB in the NFL having a new, adaptive OC calling the shots count?

    Let's see Monday night, Fudgers ...

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/09/ca98cb238eabbf09c5f9721958fb8ecc/340x.jpg

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Thanks DM - nice to have you back.

    Santa Cruz sucks. Place is cold and dirty - pass.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Yes, Cheesy, I know DMB is no beach boys, but some of us actually like music with lyrics that dont consist of...

    Yeah...bop...beee bop...surfing..girls...sun...bop..bee bop.

    Good lord.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dave Matthews looks and sounds like he is being raped by a goat. Constantly. There is no way you can deny this.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    this is clever...

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Wow, this thread has devolved, so maybe posting about actual football is pointless but here goes...

    The Bears have been prone to those quick slants in recent seasons, yes, but I don't see it as much of a problem this year for 2 reasons:

    1. They're most vulnerable to this when they go into a Cover 3, dropping down the SS into the box. The 2 primary reasons to do this are for run support, or to set up a blitz. With the way they've played the run so far, and also the less pressing need to blitz this year (they blitzed in 30% of passing situations vs Lions, and I think 17% vs Cowboys) we should see a lot less Cover 3 -- and when we do see it, it will probably be better disguised.

    2. The other situation where they are potentially vulnerable is when they drop 2 LBs to the A gaps in the "mug" look. So far we've seen very little of that of this year.

    Contrary to what a lot of fans seem to think, the Cover 2 (and Tampa 2) does not give up cheap, easy 10 yard slants. Cover 2 asks both CBs to jam and redirect WRs at the line. If you see CBs line up off the line in loose coverage, that ain't Cover 2!! Now, Tampa 2 can have CBs line up on the line or slightly off (nowhere near Cover 3 though), but normally you'll only see the looser version in full bend-don't-break mode -- i.e. when they're protecting a lead, like in the 2nd half of the Cowboys game. Thus you shouldn't see a lot of the looser version early in a game.

    I suppose one other situation we might see it is if a team hits a few big plays against them early, and they switch into a hang-on-for-dear-life mode. But even then, it won't be quick slants that got the opponent going -- that'd be what opens up because they were already hitting huge plays!

    So I think your point #5 is more a concern of fear (from the past couple seasons) than logic...

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Thanks for your analysis; I like it. Watching all these people who cannot avoid feeding the #16 gets irritating.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I really was hoping that you guys had come to realize the futility of responding to trolls.

    This one kicked this blogs ass, trivially hijacking the entire thread. Thanks again ML, for trying to get a little football back in it. No matter how interesting our little education about the social graces of Santa Cruz might be.

    BTW, my SC is far from Santa Cruz. Very far - and that is a good thing.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    On the contrary, bring it on, freedom of speech and all that. Besides, if we don't get an opposing view, then he's right, it is just a circle jerk.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I guess since this week is all about foaming at the mouth

    Blogfather's shirt has Pope on it, this is the Bishop...of dork.

    http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/alomeli32/Packers/DSC_0282.jpg

    Typical Pack Heffer at standard weight class:

    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y39/longtimefan/100_6612.jpg

    Cheesy:

    http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2085/dsc00242pa.jpg

    Cheesy on game day:

    http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8941/dsc00302xo.jpg

    Poor kid wants to die:

    http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9779/deadcheerleader.jpg

    Gotta love the tat down his arm despite no guns at all. Should be a law against that kind of stupid.

    http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a165/alomeli32/Packers/DSC_0018.jpg

    Woo Hoo! Bud light!

    http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a459/gbpack12_2_85/IMG_0595.jpg

    Must be Wayne Larravee's van

    http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a459/gbpack12_2_85/1007071820-00.jpg

  • In reply to 750mL:

    85sweetness dude bro i didnt write that shit man, wtf happen idk. im thinking these cheese dicks some how hacked my acct or something. how i dont know. fuckin a man, now im pissed

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Thank you. The Cover 2 does *not* suck. For those slant-ins there should be a linebacker with safety help all over that shit. And playing cover 2 man-off is asking for trouble anyway. How can we play prevent defense as standard and not expect to get killed on the underneath stuff?

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Well done ML.

    Your in-depth knowledge of FB nuts & bolts has been impressive since you started posting, keep it coming. You are the anti-cheese and anti-max.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/09/ca98cb238eabbf09c5f9721958fb8ecc/340x.jpg

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    So you've seen people being raped by goats ... hence your use of it as a frame of reference. This is not surprising.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    uhhhh, pop collars is east coast and Gucci is southern california.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    I agree with you there... SC is much more about stinky dreadlocks, dirty cloths, patchouli oil, begging on the street when you're able bodied, smelly, flowing dresses and robes, piercings... ok, you get the point.

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/09/ca98cb238eabbf09c5f9721958fb8ecc/340x.jpg

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Where's the loyalty? I know cali was the first state to accept your lifestyle and partner's wants, but c'mon.

    According to the official site, packers haven't had cheerleaders since 1988 due to fan indifference. I guess only black and white bovine spots and four legs or a big wheel barrel of swiss with lots of holes in it gives you guys a boner.

    I just want to to know that I was with you on prop 8.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Ahhhh Crown... at mid-season form already. Excellent.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I found Cheesy...must be a walk-out basement.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzEUYHilxTQ&feature=related

  • In reply to Crowned:

    gay hating.......sweet

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    there is a huge difference between being gay and acting like a fag.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    there you go again!

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Anyhow-

    Can you provide anything of substance other than "Bears suck"?

    I know the though of a giant circle jerk really arouses you and is probably what led you to this site (i.e. hoping we post pics, etc) but in all reality, we actually like to discuss football, and various other topics, most of which dont consist of "_____ sucks!"...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Dave Matthews Sucks

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Let us suppose for argument's sake that both the Chicago Bears and Dave Matthews suck balls. Cutler too. What now? What else have you got?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Ok guys, how about this opening gambit?????????

    http://www.packerforum.com/f8/aaron-rodgers-22754.html#post294015

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I see what you did there, GPL. Their very own #16. LOL !! I must say it was a nice release leaving a pile on their doorstep, a nice refreshing dump. My 'Urlacher standing over a crumpled Rodgers like Colossus of Rhodes' Jpeg is at home though, ah well.

    For anyone not wishing to visit a Fudger site (and believe me it's weird seeing "Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum!" in your inbox...) - I understand. So here's a few comments I copied on their Bears review thread ....

    [The first game was a crapfest with Detroit, both defenses were holding each other at their throats hoping to choke off the offense first but couldn't. It was pretty entertaining though since the Bears had EXCELLENT field positioning most if not the whole game, and would end up punting the ball to the Lions, who wouldn't move the ball. Hell the Lions stuffed the Bears on their 1 yard line 4 times.

    In the Cowgirls game, the Bears were starting to get their offense together, while the defense would hold off Romo. I didn't watch much of it, but basically it was like the Detroit game though the Bears offense finally figured out what their job is. The only surprise in that game beside the win, is Cutler threw to a receiver who usually doesn't get the ball, I think TE, in Martz's offense schemes.

    I am thinking this may be one of the hardest games this season, both teams are polishing themselves up, and the Bears have come a ways so far this year, and with Peppers and Urlacher on defense I am hoping Rodgers isn't touched.

    I am thinking we should start the game with Flynn as our starting QB, have Clay Matthews in the backfield, and have Flynn purposely throw and interception to Urlacher and have Matthews just knock him a hard one. Not that I fear Urlacher or Peppers but Urlacher creates a presence on the field, and without him the Bears D, are pushovers. ]

    [I watched both Bears games and both Packers games. And as much as it sickens me to say it, I watched a Bears team that looked much better than a Packers team.... Ugh, I feel like I need to throw up now...

    It's going to be a difficult game to win in Chicago. Especially with our run game being non existent. This running game issue is going to be a bigger deal than people are making it out to be, and MM's "Running back by committee" approach is terrible. Just my opinion of course. That type of scheme works when you have a backfield stacked like BUFFALO or Dallas, but not here in GB. It's pretty apparent that the Packers are going to roll with the personnel that they currently have unfortunately, so I'm hoping this Nance kid proves to be a tough, hard running back like Grant was. Jackson just isn't a feature back.

    I've got my fingers crossed but it'll be a tough game with the way we've been playing on offense. Gotta play 4 quarters. ]

    [FINALLY ......Just finished watching both Bears games..
    I can say that Cutler is utilizing high percentage dump off passes, hot reads and screen passes. Mike Martz has definitely shown improvement trying to run the ball just enough to keep the defense honest(similar to us). 75% in a 3 WR set with TE and RB. There OL is disastrous. Being the Packers have been zone blitzing. I expect the bears to do lots of 3 step drops, with quick slants and delayed hand offs. I live in Tampa. The Bears run the Tampa 2 defense. They remind me of those real good Tampa defensive teams. Im not saying there as good, they play with lots of emotion, and body's are flying all over the field. Both of there safetys will lay you out cross the middle. Packers will need there fastest guys on defense against this team. I imagine that AJ Hawk will not be playing as much as he did last week. Bears play fast and pack a punch.(no pun intended) I'm really concerned about this game. I hope McChubby uses his offensive teams talent to mix things up, and please be very CREATIVE. If we can get a lead. We should be ok. But if we come out flat like we've been the last 2 weeks on offense and let the crowd get involved. IT COULD BE TROUBLE.]

    Our safeties got some love!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Guess they couldn't find any girls under 30 years of age that weren't been cornholed by their brothers every night Crown ...

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    aaaaaaaggghhhhhhhaaaaaaa !!! Hold the front page Jenny ! Niners with Montana and Young ... or the cool Raider colors .... nope .... I'm gonna support me some Fudgers !!! Fucking classic.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Hello Mr. Rodgers, have you met my friend Julius?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YYy8O7lBK8

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Except this time Child Support will be on the other side of the sandwich!

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    Check out Clutch Cutler on Monday night, asshole.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm... tang.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Until Cutler has a good game at night I'm with you on that, Willie. Forgot about that.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Heeyyyo, I didn't know anyone else knew what smegma was. God that word is so filthy.

    "+1"

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    The bears still suck though

  • In reply to thebigcheese:

    That's because you're probably 10

  • Sackless, that was funny. Even funnier was the image of D.J."I got really lucky" Moore somehow trying to cover Jermichael Finley. Only one boy on our D has the makeup for that. O Captain, my Captain.

    Matthews may be pretty good, but I'm afraid he may be the future of Greg Olsen's hair.

    If Rohomo can put up 374 yards on us, Rodgers figures to break the 400 barrier. Doesn't mean we can't win. Ken O'Brien and Dan Marino used to put up video game numbers against each other and make it look like the defenses had stayed in the locker room. But it means Shabba must be unleashed, and right now he's in Lovie's shithouse. People seem to think Hester has come out of his cave, but that was a singular great catch. Singular. *Anyone* can make a great catch. It's running good routes, getting separation and making great catches as a habit throughout your career that makes you a #1 receiver, and that is not Devin Hester. I get that he doesn't bother blocking, but you've got to be catching more than 5 passes inside of two games to call yourself the money man. He doesn't even return well anymore, I say get a second rounder for him while we can, and keep Olsen.

    So Rodgers kills us, but will their secondary take away the only part of the game we have left? This one lies squarely on the shoulders of Tillman, Urlacher & Peppers. It appears Tommie is out to lunch.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You guys crack me up. Why is everyone acting like the Packers won the Super Bowl already? Give me a break. They are coming to our house and this year we will be ready for them. I'm calling a good ole fashion mugging and it won't even be close. Yeah Rogers can throw the rock but geez stop acting like they own us. Man up.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I like that Trac. I really do.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yea no shit, I just don't think the're that good.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Nice Analysis Blogftaher Part1..... we win by 7 part 2-lobotobear...don't mean to step on your toes but had to put in my .02

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Part of me wants to say that we'll see 600 or even 700 passing yards this game. Jeff is right on that both teams will rely heavily on their gun-slinger quarterbacks to stretch the defenses deep and make big plays.

    But... both teams have the ability to put tremendous pressure on quarterbacks. Clay Matthews is obviously a play maker, and so is Julius Peppers. I predict that one team will throw for 350+ and that the other team will struggle to find its rhythm against a frightening pass rush. Cutler has shown the ability to take his licks in Chicago, and Rodgers's sack numbers last year prove he's a tough SOB.

    All I can say is, I hope its our boys that show they are ready for the playoffs by stepping up to big pressure. This game will truly show who the leader in the NFC North is.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    And don't forget, given the way the NFC is shaping up, there is a very good chance that we play the pack 3 times this year.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If D.J. Moore has to cover someone, we will see how much he sucks.

    He was man to man on that first int and he lost Miles and thank you Jesus for letting Tillman be in the right place to knock Austin into Reggie Bush's ex again.

    Trac, I get it.

    Rodger's hasn't put up any numbers so far to be really good and Jay has.

    The funny thing is last year Rodger's couldn't really throw against us. I don't think this year will be different.

    I do think the over the middle will suck for them because Urlacher is back and I have a sneaky suspicion that JP, will get three sacks. Just sayin..

    Clay, he is going to get to Jay. I ain't gonna hope or say he isn't because I know he is but... I bet Mr. Brandon finally get's his balls together and puts them on Clay and blocks him.

    My .02

  • Based on the averages of his last 4 games, I don't believe there's a better QB in the NFL. 13 touchdown passes, 2 Ints and a rating of 118 is sick. Although half of those games were against the Lions I guess

    Gm QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Sack
    4 118.1 86 135 63.7 1198 299.5 8.9 13 2 14 40 10.0 9

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